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From This Week with George Stephanopoulos, Republican Rep. Marsha Blackburn and Democratic Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz get into one of those discussions over this week's breast screening recommendations in which the Republican simply constructs an alternate reality:

BLACKBURN: ... Debbie is right when she says they forgot about people. Indeed, they did. But we have to realize, this group that made this recommendation, this isn't some outside group. This is a part of HHS. And when you look at the...

WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: It's an independent group. That is not accurate.

BLACKBURN: ... 118 -- when you look at the...

WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: It is not a part of HHS.

BLACKBURN: No, it is a part of HHS.

WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: No, it is not.

BLACKBURN: And when you look at what is going to happen with these 118 new bureaucracies with 62 directives that are given by the health choices commissioner on what insurance can be offered in this country after 2013 and what is going to be paid, you know that this is the bureaucrat in the exam room. This is how it's going to happen.

WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: Marsha...

BLACKBURN: And this is the first step.

WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: Marsha, there's an insurance company bureaucrat in the -- in between the patient and her doctor right now.

BLACKBURN: This is breast cancer. Well, and people don't like that, and we need to get rid of...

(CROSSTALK)

WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: And your bill -- your -- your alternative...

(CROSSTALK)

BLACKBURN: We need to get rid of all of those insurance bureaucrats.

WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: ... does nothing to...

(CROSSTALK)

STEPHANOPOULOS: I'm going to have to -- I'm going to have to stop this right now.

Yes, George. Because your job is to provide a showcase. You're not supposed to confront the guests when they make things up.

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This Week with George Stephanopoulos marks the passings of John O'Connor III, former ambassador James Lilley, former New Mexico Governor Bruce King and photographer Evelyn Hofer. In addition, the Pentagon released the names of 7 servicemembers killed in Iraq and Afghanistan:

Army SPC Tony Carrasco Jr, 25, of Berino, NM
Army SPC Aaron S Aamot, 22, of Custer, WA
Army SPC Gary L Gooch Jr, 22, of Ocala, FL
Marine Sgt Charles I Cartwright, 26, of Union Bridge, MD
Army CWO Mathew C Heffelfinger, 29, of Kimberly, ID
Army CWO Earl R Scott III, 24, of Jacksonville, FL
Marine LCpl Justin J Swanson, 21, of Anaheim, CA

According to iCasualties, this brings the total number of allied servicemembers killed in Iraq to 4,680; in Afghanistan, 1,518. During this same week, Iraq Body Count adds another 54 Iraqi civilians killed.

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From This Week with George Stephanopoulos, an interview with Gen. George Casey in which (of course) we use the "terrorism" label, but the general also worries that speculation about the Ft. Hood shootings will fan the fires of bigotry in the military:

STEPHANOPOULOS: You say you can't talk too much about the investigation, but we are learning a fair amount about Major Hasan in the last couple of days. And it appears that there were several warning signs they either could have or should have been caught.

His fellow students and here in Bethesda, Maryland, say that he had anti-American rants at various presentations. The FBI has found some Internet postings by a man with Mr. Hasan's name, very inflammatory, praising suicide bombers.

And one of the major's fellow students has been especially concerned by what he said. He said that it was very clear to him, and his name is
Val Finnell, that -- and that he had complained to administrators at a military university about these anti-American rants. And the AP story that quotes him goes on to say that Hasan's fellow students complained to the faculty about Hasan's anti-American propaganda, but said a fear of appearing discriminatory against a Muslim student kept off the students from filing a formal complaint. Is that true?

CASEY: I think we need to be very careful here about speculating based on anecdotes like that. We are encouraging all of our soldiers and leaders that may have information pertaining to the suspect to come forward with that information to the criminal investigation division and to the FBI. So, I realize there is a lot out there. We all want to know what happened and what motivated the suspect, but I think we need to be very, very careful here in these early days to let the investigation take its course. These are professionals and they will sort through this.

STEPHANOPOULOS: So it's fair to say that right now, you can't rule out anything. We don't know if this was an act of premeditated political terror, or if this was a case of someone who just snapped.

CASEY: I think you are exactly right, and I don't think we should speculate on one or the other or any other possibilities.

STEPHANOPOULOS: One of the things this does raise, though, is the special challenge paused to all of you by Muslims in the military.

There are only about 3,000 Muslims in the military right now, and on the one hand, you want to recruit Muslims. There is a great need for Muslims in the military right now. On the other hand, this is not the first case we've seen of fratricide by someone with a Muslim background in the military. How do you deal with this challenge?

CASEY: Again, I think that's something else we need to be very careful about, and I think the speculation could potentially heighten backlash against some of our Muslim soldiers. And what happened at Fort Hood was a tragedy, but I believe it would be an even greater tragedy if our diversity becomes a casualty here. And it's not just about Muslims. We have a very diverse army. We have a very diverse society.

And that gives us all strength. So again, we need to be very careful with that.

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This Week with George Stephanopoulos marks the passings of journalist John Mashek and the Ft. Hood shooting victims.

Civilian Michael Grant Cahill, 62, of Cameron
Major L. Eduardo Caraveo, 52, of Woodbridge, Va.
Staff Sgt. Justin M. DeCrow, 32, of Plymouth, Ind.
Capt. John P. Gaffaney, 54, of San Diego, Calif.
Spc. Frederick Greene, 29, of Mountain City, Tenn.
Spc. Jason Dean Hunt, 22, of Tillman, Okla.
Sgt. Amy Krueger, 29, of Kiel, Wis.
Pfc. Aaron Thomas Nemelka, 19, of West Jordan, Utah
Pfc. Michael Pearson, 22, of Bolingbrook, Ill.
Capt. Russell Seager, 41, of Racine, Wis.
Pvt. Francheska Velez, 21, of Chicago. She was pregnant.
Lt. Col. Juanita Warman, 55, of Havre de Grace, Md.
Spc. Kham Xiong, 23, of St. Paul, Minn.

In addition, the Pentagon has released the names of 9 servicemembers killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Army SPC Joseph L Gallegos, 39, of Questa, NM
Army PFC Brian R Bates, Jr 20, of Gretna, LA
Army SPC Adrian L Avila, 19, of Opelika, AL
Army PFC Lukas C Hopper, 20, of Merced, CA
Army SPC Christopher M Cooper, 28, of Oceanside, CA
Army SPC Jonathon M Sylvestre, 21, of Colorado Springs, CO
Marine Sgt Cesar B Ruiz, 26, of San Antonio, TX
Army SSG Amy C Tirador, 29, of Albany, NY
Army SPC Julian L Berisford, 25, of Benwood, WV

According to iCasualties, this brings the total number of allied servicemembers killed in Iraq to 4,677, in Afghanistan, 1,513. During this same period, Iraq Body Count lists 56 Iraq civilians killed. For the month of October, 438 civilians were killed in Iraq.

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From This Week with George Stephanopoulos, the Pentagon released the names this week of 25 servicemembers killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Army SPC Eric N Lembke, 25, of Tampa, FL
Army PFC Kimble A Han, 30, of Lehi, UT
Marine Cpl Gregory MW Fleury, 23, of Anchorage, AK
Marine Capt Eric A Jones, 29, of Westchester, NY
Marine Capt David S Mitchell, 30, of Loveland, OH
Marine Capt Kyle R Van De Giesen, 29, of North Attleboro, MA
Army SGT Eduviges G Wolf, 24, of Hawthorne, CA
Army PFC Devin J Michel, 19, of Stockton, IL
Army SPC Brandon K Steffey, 23, of Sault Sainte Marie, MI
Marine LCpl Cody R Stanley, 21, of Rosanky, TX
Army SSG Luis M Gonzalez, 27, of South Ozone Park, NY
Army SGT Fernando Delarosa, 24, of Alamo, TX
Army SGT Dale R Griffin, 29, of Terre Haute, IN
Army SGT Issac B Jackson, 27, of Plattsburg, MO
Army SGT Patrick O Williamson, 24, of Broussard, LA
Army SPC Jared D Stanker, 22, of Evergreen Park, IL
Army PFC Christopher I Walz, 25, of Vancouver, WA
Army CWO Michael P Montgomery, 36, of Savannah, GA
Army CWO Niall Lyons, 40, of Spokane, WA
Army SSG Shawn H McNabb, 24, of Terrell, TX
Army SGT Josue E Hernandez Chavez, 23, of Reno, NV
Army SGT Nikolas A Mueller, 26, of Little Chute, WI
Army SFC David E Metzger, 32, of San Diego, CA
Army SSG Keith R Bishop, 28, of Medford, NY
Army SCP Robert K Charlton, 22, of Malden, MO

In addition, 3 agents from the DEA and an American UN security guard were killed in Afghanistan.

This week's casualties bring the total number of allied servicemembers killed in Iraq to 4,673; in Afghanistan, 1,502. During the same period, Iraq Body Count lists 69 Iraqi civilians killed. This has been the deadliest month for US forces in Afghanistan since the beginning of the invasion.

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This Week with George Stephanopoulos notes the passings of comedian Soupy Sales, former Wyoming governor and senator Clifford P. Hansen, Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Jack Nelson and TV theme songwriter Vic Mizzy. In addition, the Pentagon has released the names of 12 servicemembers killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Army SGT Christopher M Rudzinski, 28, of Rantoul, IL
Army SSG Chris N Staats, 32, of Fredericksburg, TX
Army SPC Anthony G Green, 28, of Matthews, NC
Army SSG Glen H Stivison, Jr, 34, of Blairsville, PA
Army SPC Jesus O Flores, Jr, 28, of La Mirada, CA
Army SPC Daniel C Lawson, 33, of Deerfield Beach, FL
Army PFC Brandon M Styer, 19, of Lancaster, PA
Army PFC Daniel J Rivera, 22, of Rochester, NY
Army SPC Michael A Dahl Jr, 23, of Moreno Valley, CA
Marine LCpl David R Baker, 22, of Painesville, OH
Army SSG Bradley Espinoza, 26, of Mission, TX
Army SPC Kyle A Coumas, 22, of Lockeford, CA

This brings the total number of allied killed in Iraq to 4,669; in Afghanistan, 1,469. During this same week, Iraq Body Count lists 74 Iraqi civilians killed. That does not include the more than 132 people killed in twin suicide bombings in Baghdad today. In Afghanistan, escalating violence along the Pakistan border has claimed the lives of more than 200.

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On This Week with George Stephanopoulos, a discussion of the political machinations around the public option:

On the Roundtable, Bloomberg’s Al Hunt says that a health reform package can’t pass without the support of Sen. Olympia Snowe. She provides cover for moderates like Sens. Ben Nelson and Mary Landrieu and may pull over a couple of Republican votes.

HUNT: "Olympia Snowe, I think, thinks privately that in the end the trigger will be the compromise everyone has to rally around and give a little bit of face-saving to liberals and she and a few other republicans can go for it."

They really don't get it, do they? They're so out of touch with reality that they don't understand the kind of serious harm they're doing to the Democratic brand with this bait-and-switch routine on the public option.

A trigger? A frackin' trigger? How much longer do we have to wait to get relief from the predatory practices of the insurance industry? And how much more obvious does it have to be that the priority in the Senate is incumbency protection?

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This Week with George Stephanopoulos marks the passings of singer/actor Al Martino, journalist Nan Robertson, aviation innovator Richard Whitcomb, and Wall Street executive Bruce Wasserstein. In addtion, the Pentagon has released the names of 4 servicemembers killed in Afghanistan.

Army SFC Kenneth W Westbrook, 41, of Shiprock, NM
Army SPC George W Cauley, 24, of Walker, MN
Marine LCpl Alfonso Ochoa Jr, 20, of Armona, CA
Marine SSgt Aaron J Taylor, 27, of Bovey, MN

That brings the total number of allied servicemembers killed in Iraq to 4,667, in Afghanistan, 1,463. During this same week, Iraq Body Count lists 74 Iraqi civilians killed. The bomb blast that killed the 4 service members in Afghanistan also killed an Afghan woman and her child.

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This Week with George Stephanopoulos notes the passings of photographer Irving Penn, anti-war activist Peg Mullen and restaurateur Ben Ali. In addition, the Pentagon has released the names of 16 soldiers killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Army SGT Roberto D Sanchez, 24 of Satellite Beach, FL
Army SGT Aaron M Smith, 25, of Manhattan, KS
Army SPC Brandon A Owens, 21, of Memphis, TN
Army SSG Thomas D Rabjohn, 39, of Litchfield Park, AZ
Army SPC Paul E Andersen, 49, of Dowagiac, MI
Army CPT Benjamin A Sklaver, 32, of Medford, MA
Army PFC Alan H Newton Jr, 26, of Asheboro, NC
Army MAJ Tad T Hervas, 48, of Coon Rapids, MN
Army SGT Justin T Gallegos, 27, of Tucson, AZ
Army SGT Joshua M Hardt, 24, of Applegate, CA
Army SGT Joshua J Kirk, 30, of South Portland, ME
Army SGT Michael P Scusa, 22, of Villas, NJ
Army SPC Christopher T Griffin, 24, of Kincheloe, MI
Army SPC Stephan L Mace, 21, of Lovettsville, VA
Army PFC Kevin C Thomson, 22, of Reno, NV
Army SPC Kevin O Hill, 23, of Brooklyn, NY

This brings the total number of allied servicemembers killed in Iraq to 4,667, in Afghanistan, 1,453. During this same week, Iraq Body Count has listed 63 Iraqi civilian deaths and violence in Afghanistan has contributed to at least 17 Afghani civilian deaths.

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This Week with George Stephanopoulos notes the passings of Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds inspiration Lucy Vodden, Gap founder Donald Fisher and former speechwriter and columnist William Safire. In addition, the Pentagon released the names of 11 servicemembers killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Army SGT Titus R Reynolds, 23, of Columbus, OH
Army SGT Edward B Smith, 30, of Homestead, FL
Army SPC Joseph V White, 21, of Bellevue, WA
Army SPC Kevin J Graham, 27, of Benton, KY
Marine LCpl Jordan L Chrobot, 24, of Frederick, MD
Army SPC Ross E Vogel, III, 27, of Red Lion, PA
Army SSG Alex French IV, 31, of Milledgeville, GA
Army SFC Christopher D Shaw, 37, of Markham, IL
Army SSG Jack M Martin III, 26, of Bethany, OK
Army SPC Russell S Hercules Jr, 22 of Murfreesboro, TN
Army SGT Ryan C Adams, 26 of Rhinelander, WI

This brings the total number of allied soldiers killed in Iraq to 4,666, in Afghanistan, 1,441. During this same week, Iraq Body Count lists 58 Iraqi civilians killed. For the month of September, 296 Iraqi civilians were killed, 21 of whom were children. In Afghanistan, 30 civilians were killed by roadside bombs this week alone.

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This Week with George Stephanopoulos notes the passings of scientist Dr. John J. Wild, politician Don Yarborough, Rev. Forrest Church and pianist Alicia de Larrocha. Besides these notable people, AP reports that conservative columnist William Safire died this morning. In addition, the Pentagon has released the names of 8 servicemembers killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Air Force SrA Matthew R Courtois, 22, of Lucas, TX
Army SPC Michael S Cote Jr, 20, of Denham Springs, LA
Army SPC Corey J Kowall, 20, of Murfreesboro, TN
Army SPC Damon G Winkleman, 23, of Lakeville, OH
Army SGT David A Davis, 28, of Dalhart, TX
Air Force TSgt James R Hornbarger, 33, of Castle Rock, WA
Army PFC William L Meredith, 26, of Virginia Beach, VA
Marine LCpl John J Malone, 24, of Yonkers, NY

According iCasualties, the total number of allied forces killed in Iraq is now 4,664; in Afghanistan, 1,421. During this same period, Iraq Body Count lists 43 Iraqi civilians killed.

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Peggy Noonan with a double dose of her typical snobbery on This Week with George Stephanopoulos. Noonan first calls the President "boorish" for doing his "Full Ginsburg" on the Sunday shows and for all the town hall meetings he's had. Then she goes on to excuse the racism at the tea bag parties and town hall protests.

Stephanopoulos: Peggy one of the arguments the White House makes is they're dealing with a very different media environment than any other President in the past has ever had to deal with. There's such a fracture in media environment that even someone like Ronald Reagan, who you worked for would have to do more of what you're seeing the President do in this environment.

Noonan: Oh I don't know. I think the President is doing what he's doing now, being all over today and the past few weeks--he's doing it because... he can, because people do what they know how to do.

Stephanopoulos: Because no one is going to turn him down.

Noonan: This is his way. Because everybody will say yes. I don't think it's about the media environment but I do think the media environment allows a modern leader to be something subtly damaging and that is boorish. They get their face in your face every day all the time. It's boorish and it makes people not lean towards you, but lean away from you, no matter what the merits of the issue and the merits of this issue are not such great merits.

[.....]

You know what I think. When I look at this I step back a little bit and I think there is a lot of anger now. Mrs. Pelosi had a point. Things get high. It's always good to cool things down, but essentially what we have here is a very new president. He's only been here for ten months. He is a young man. He didn't have deep, long, profound experience. He is attempting right now to change, what it is, seventeen, eighteen percent of the GNP of the United States of America, changing how it works, health care.

This is problematic on the face of it. People will argue about that, but on top of that people are thinking about, in America the economy, unemployment, war and peace, two wars that are going. This president who is new and young comes along and says "Oh, that's not the issue. The issue is health care". It seems not like a program but a non sequitur and it angers people.

Inland at DailyKOS reminds of us what the definition of a boor is and tries to figure out what Noonan may have been implying by using the term.

boor definition boor (bo̵or)

noun

1. Archaic a peasant or farm worker

2. a rude, awkward, or ill-mannered person

Inland also points to this post at Firedoglake by Blue Texan with more of Noonan's hackery on the town hall protesters. Peggy Noonan: Health Care Protests Haven’t “Gotten Out of Hand”, Just “Plenty of Booing”:

Nooners surveys the mob scenes, the hangings in effigy, the assaults, the unhinged rhetoric -- and blames it all on Obama.

All of this is unnecessarily and unhelpfully divisive and provocative. They [the White House and Democrats] are mocking and menacing concerned citizens. This only makes a hot situation hotter. Is this what the president wants? It couldn’t be. But then in an odd way he sometimes seems not to have fully absorbed the awesome stature of his office. You really, if you’re president, can’t call an individual American stupid, if for no other reason than that you’re too big. You cannot allow your allies to call people protesting a health-care plan “extremists” and “right wing,” or bought, or Nazi-like, either. They’re citizens. They’re concerned. They deserve respect.

Shorter Noonan: if the Democrats would stop dressing like slutty socialists, they wouldn't get raped.

h/t to Bob Cesca who also noted..

Adding... Peggy Noonan was at the top of her passive aggressive condescending game. Bravo. Referring to the president as "boorish" in her trademark insufferable hushed tone doesn't make her "graceful" or "civil" -- it just makes her look ridiculous, since she clearly doesn't know what "boorish" means.

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This Week with George Stephanopoulos marks the passings of award-winning writer Larry Gelbart, Nobel laureate Norman Borlaug, and entertainment columnist Army Archerd. In addition, the Pentagon released the names of 10 servicemembers killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Army 2LT Darryn D Andrews, 34, of Dallas, TX
Army SGT Randy M Haney, 27, of Orlando, FL
Army SSG Michael C Murphrey, 25, of Snyder, TX
Air Force 1st Lt Joseph D Helton, 24, of Monroe, GA
Marine Capt Joshua S Meadows, 30, of Bastrop, TX
Army SSG Shannon M Smith, 31, of Marion, OH
Army PFC Thomas F Lyons, 20, of Fernley, NV
Army PFC Zachary T Myers, 21, of Delaware, OH
Marine LCpl Christopher S Fowlkes, 20, of Gaffney, SC
Army 1LT Tyler E Parten, 24, of Arkansas

According to iCasualties, the total number of allied soldiers killed in Iraq is now 4,661, in Afghanistan, 1,384. During this same period, Iraq Body Count lists 116 Iraqi civilians killed.

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On This Week with George Stephanopoulos, Matthew Dowd tries to equate the left's hatred for George Bush with the over the top attack by the right wing about Obama's speech to school children. I'm sorry Matt, but it's not the same thing.

As Digby pointed out in her post where she talks about the media fueling this nonsense, there is a difference.

I know how she feels. I had the same reaction when George W. Bush was on television every five minute launching invasions of other countries for no good reason and yammering on about how oceans once protected us and now drone planes with biological weapons were coming to kill us all in our beds. It's easy to understand why this woman would be equally freaked out by the president trying to make sure everyone can go to a doctor when they get sick. It's scary stuff.

There's a part of all this that's simply a matter of the right riding the existing zeitgeist. For years liberals loudly denounced the neocons for their megalomania, warning about the ramifications of an America that has become a rogue superpower, torturing, invading and spying on its own citizens. It was a violent, frightening time with some real world consequences that are still not fully understood or absorbed.

The right, with their pretense of assuming the moral positions of their opposition, twisting their rhetoric to suit their own needs and basically use the other sides' own methods against them, have simply jumped on the bandwagon now that their boy is gone. These people are posing as civil libertarians afraid of an authoritarian take-over,something we all have felt recently. Because they've absorbed all the fear and concern of the past years, even as they rejected it, they are now able to emotionally apply it to the president they hate and it has the same emotional resonance, even if it is completely ludicrous.

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Katrina Vanden Heuvel does a pretty good job of talking about how all of this is being fanned by "a right wing media that wants to cripple or take down Obama's presidency" and how we didn't see this when President's Reagan and George H.W. Bush spoke to school children, and then Dowd follows with this.

Dowd: Well it reminds me, to be honest it reminds me of exactly what the left was doing to George W. Bush in this time. There was no way no matter what he said, how he did, whatever he talked about that they would accept, react to well at all, no matter what he did. And the same is happening to Barack Obama.

In Matthew Dowd's world, the left being upset about being lied into war, the spying, the torture, stolen elections, using 9-11 to scare the crap out of the American public, tax breaks for the rich who don't need it, using the Department of Justice as a political arm of the White House and getting a Governor thrown into jail, outing a CIA agent because her husband dared to speak out against Dick Cheney, putting industry hacks in charge of every government oversight agency, and I could go on but I'll stop... being upset about those things is exactly the same as the right wing freaking out over a speech given to school children by President Obama. I don't think so.

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This Week with George Stephanopoulos notes the passings of conductor Erich Kunzel, former Reagan adviser Beryl Sprinkel, retailer Nancy Talbot and former Congressman W.G. Hefner. In addition, the Pentagon released the names of 11 servicemembers killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Army SPC Abraham S Wheeler III, 22, of Columbia, SC
Army SSG Jason S Dahlke, 29, of Orlando, FL
Army PFC Eric W Hario, 19, of Monroe, MI
Marine LCpl David R Hall, 31, of Elyria, OH
Army SPC Jonathan D Welch, 19, of Yorba Linda, CA
Army PFC Jordan M Brochu, 20, of Cumberland, ME
Army SPC Tyler R Walshe, 21, of Shasta, CA
Army SSG Todd W Selge, 25, of Burnsville, MN
Army SPC Jordan M Shay, 22, of Salisbury, MA
Navy PO3 Benjamin P Castiglione, 21, of Howell, MI
Marine LCpl Christopher S Baltazar Jr, 19, of San Antonio, TX

Normally, I give the number of total allied servicemembers killed as tallied by iCasualties.org, one of the few organizations dedicated to not forgetting the sacrifices by our military. However, iCasualties.org's servers have crashed and they are seeking donations to defray the cost of new equipment. Iraq Body Count lists 69 Iraqi civilian deaths for this week; 537 deaths (including 21 children) for the entire month of August.