Joe Scarborough has had enough with the White House rhetorical "You're either with us or against us" devices, especially since the White House has now turned it against members of their own party. So it was okay when us liberals (who have been right all the way down the line insofar as the way the war in Iraq has turned out, by the way) were denounced as emboldening the terrorists and hurting troop morale, but when a few select members of the Republican party have awakened to the reality that we are in a massive FUBAR, THEN the White House is out of line?