Heck, Murray is lying-Newsday is lying. Everyone is lying except Novak. Bill Harlow just didn't protest enough and to hell with a CIA agent. She probably never had undercover work years earlier that might have been compromised because he printed her name...
COLMES: So you're saying "Newsday" was wrong in this report, and Murray Waas, "National Journal," was wrong...
COLMES: ... and these people have purposefully misrepresented you?
NOVAK: I never give motives, but I know that the Murray Waas piece in the "National Journal," which interestingly was not picked up by anybody, was totally wrong and a total lie.
COLMES: Hey, Bob, it's Alan. Thank you very much
for coming on tonight.
NOVAK: Yes, thank you, Alan.
COLMES: Help me understand something, because you
said in your piece today that you found out Valerie
Plame's name originally by reading a "Who's Who." And
you're quoted in "Newsday" by Timothy Phelps and Knut
Royce a while back as saying, "I didn't dig it out.
It was given to me," meaning her name. "They thought
it was significant. They gave me the name, and I used
That sounds like contradictory statements.
NOVAK: Well, that was a misstatement. That was an
interview I did on the telephone with "Newsday"
shortly after it appeared. Some of the things that
they said that quoted me that are not in quotes are
paraphrases, and they're incorrect, such as the whole
idea that they planted this story with me. I never
told that to the "Newsday" reporters.
But, as a matter of fact, let me assure you that
neither my primary source gave -- mentioned Valerie
Plame's name to me, nor did Karl Rove mention the name
to me, nor did the CIA spokesman. They just talked
about Joe Wilson's wife. I got her name from "Who's
COLMES: You said that Bill Harlow asked you not to
go with this. Are there others who urged, "Don't go
with this story. Don't print it. Don't use the name.
Don't talk about Valerie Plame"? Why didn't you
listen to them, if that's the case?
NOVAK: If I -- Alan, if I adhered to -- if I bowed
to somebody who asked me not to write stories all the
time who are in government, about half the columns I
write would not be written, or a great number would
not be written.
If he had said to me at any time that she was -- that
she was -- her life was in danger, she was involved in
HANNITY: All right, Bob...
NOVAK: ... just a minute -- I would not have written
it. He never said that to me, never made any such
COLMES: Welcome back to "Hannity & Colmes." We now
continue our FOX News exclusive interview with
syndicated columnist and FOX News contributor Robert
Bob, it's been reported that Karl Rove testified to
the grand jury that, during his telephone call with
you on September 29th, which was three days after it
was known that the CIA asked Justice to investigate,
that you said words to the effect to Rove, "You're not
going to get burned."
Is that accurate? And can you give us context on
that, if that was actually said?
NOVAK: That was not said; that's a total lie. It
was reported by one reporter in one
not-very-widely-read publication. It was not picked
up in the general press.
And the idea that there was any such under-the-table
arrangement between me and Rove, of course, would have
created a lot of trouble with the special prosecutor.
And there was never any action taken by him on that
COLMES: So you're saying "Newsday" was wrong in this
report, and Murray Waas, "National Journal," was
COLMES: ... and these people have purposefully
NOVAK: I never give motives, but I know that the
Murray Waas piece in the "National Journal," which
interestingly was not picked up by anybody, was
totally wrong and a total lie.
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