Countdown: Cut Taxes - Defund The Dick
By Logan Murphy Tuesday Jun 26, 2007 11:10am
The Democrats are going to call Dick Cheney's bluff this coming Thursday by using his own logic to justify cutting of funds to his offices, according to Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-IL) who joined Keith Olbermann on Tuesday's "Countdown." Emanuel points out that defunding the Vice President's office would save American taxpayers some $4.5 million dollars. And we know George Bush never met a tax cut he didn't like, right?
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The Democrats are onto Cheney's game, but whether or not they follow through on this remains to be seen. The Vice President is obviously out of control and his actions are flat out delusional, yet it seems nothing can be done to stop him. Contact your representatives in the House and Senate and tell them you want them to uphold the law and hold Dick Cheney accountable for his actions. Remind them that he's a public servant who is accountable to the American people, and we will accept nothing less than full disclosure and transparency.
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Frist in the wind!
3 to 1 says it never happens.
The Vice President is obviously out of control and his actions are flat out delusional, yet it seems nothing can be done to stop him. Contact your representatives in the House and Senate.
Listen I agree with your thoughts here about contacting your representatives BUT for god's sake, don't they know? Everyday it is a new disclosure about Dick Cheney' s power grab. If the Congress wants to get black eyes and be spit on by Cheney and his goons what the hell can we do that will change that?
How about cut Dick?
He looks like he could use a briss.
Rahm will back down, then claim victory. Remember how he took (false) credit for the Dems' victory in 2006?
Schmuck.
More smoke.
Defund the office...argue for two weeks...ignore the REAL issue of the documents...until Paris gets arrested again or another white girl is missing.
RELEASE THE DOCUMENTS! ALL OF THEM...including the ENERGY COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES. RELEASE ALL THE EMAILS!
NOW!
Whatever happened to Ken Mehlman?
Let's CUT THE BULLSHIT.
There will be NO DEFUNDING. Ain't gonna happen.
RELEASE THE DOCUMENTS or arrest his fat ass.
Let's go Dems...enough TALK and no action!
"public servant" - I can't think of a description for Dick that applies less.
That putrid slime should be in the bracelets doin a perp walk.
And if he has a heart attack...the ambulance should break down on the way to the hospital.
Forget about defunding him, send the Feds in and take all of the computers, safes, and papers you can lay your hands on!
We should defund the federal government.
They do not represent the people, they represent Corporations and the wealthy.
No taxation without representation.
Why fund a broken system?
I hate Rahm Emmanuel almost as much as Dick Cheney. Same corruption, different party. If the democrats were serious about reigning in BUSHCO they would be impeaching Cheney now, since AIPAC says no impeach there will be no impeachment.
Can we at least keep funding for the National Park Service?
wouldn't it be a shock if the reason he has been so tight about the energy task force minutes was that they detail him informing the energy companes about the plans to prevent iraqs oil from getting out onto the world market and driving the price of oil down?
enron, saudis, vice president, oil companies siting in a room figuring out how to fake a war?
naw....................
Unfortunately, I believe this when I see it.
Wes @ 13:
Oh right, I forgot -- Israel runs our government. Go back to sleep.
Nothing will happen of this...
After this latest BS, my support of Dennis Kucinich has just grown. Impeach the vampire!
Matt in Texas @ 14:
Yes and basic services or turn it over to the States like illegal immigration, global warming, ethics and lobbying rules, etc...
Matt in Texas @ 14:
Speaking of jack-booted thugs, isn't it interesting how many high level NPS officials had ties to Abramoff? No, I'm afraid the NPS will have to go too! ;)
Has anyone ever seen an interview with the young military guy who kept asking Cheney "if the order still held", on 9/11, as the plane was heading for the Pentagon?
It seems he could put to rest much of the doubt regarding what really happened that morning.....or could open a few eyes.
I guess our press would rather interview Paris.
Would love to see it happen, but I doubt it. Democrats just don't have the balls to do it. They're trying to play by the rules in a fight against people who don't have the concept of rules. Take a page from the Republican play book, "The only fair fight is the one you win."
this kind of push back would have been nice on something relevant, say the iraq war spending bill.
it's sad we have to wait for the republicans to read the way wind blows before anything changes.
you can say all you want defending the dems, they're building a case, they're making sure they get it right, blah, blah, blah.
it doesn't matter. they're weak.
and you KNOW it.
cheney has caved on this issue:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0607/4679.html
As that asshole, Yoda, used to say, "No talk. Do!"
I've never seen a Bush that can accomodate a Dick so well.
Watch out for the spawn.
JohnSmo @ 23:
I agree. This funding cut by Emanuel reminds me of Elliot Ness charging Al Capone with tax evasion. The difference though is that Ness at least brought those tax evasion charges against Capone. All we will hear from Emanuel is just talk.
Our representatives in Congress have NO desire to follow the law or their moral obligations as regards the constitution or the laws of this nation.
If they did, they would not have said impeachment wasn't an option. If they did, they would have de-funded the war.
Calling them now will do NOTHING. Don't waste your time.
I don't mean to be overly cynical but I think Dick Cheney and the people behind him have enough money to keep doing what they are doing regardless if they cut the funds to his office. It just seems like another distraction.... *sigh*
Why are we playing games? Everyone know the vice_president is part of the Executive branch. We've been taught that for 200 years.
So now they'll make the gesture of denying funding.
Cut to the chase. He's done enough to warrant impeachment. Bring a bill of impeachment out of the judiciary committee. There are enough particulars to bring a very large detailed bill.
Then let's see which of his congressional republican buddies will try to save his ass.
I just don't get it. Nothing can be done to stop him?
WTF? Dick-Head is CLEARLY stepping over the line
with his secrecy bullshit. He is accountable under law.
Anything outside the law and the Constitution in my
mind is NULL & VOID.....
In my opinion the democrats should take off the table any bills that the administration wants passed including the immigration bill. Anythig that this administration wants is highly suspect as far what their motives might be. DeLay wouldn't let a democratis bill even get to the floor. By taking these issues off the floor the democrats would be able to focus more on the investigations we desparately need. There are plenty of good bills that need our attention, that they could focus on to keep them productrive in the meantime. Any of the other bills that are meaningful, the Republicans just block anyway. Take the ball out of their park and put it in ours.
getalife @ 25:
So now it's back to executive privilege . . move along, nothing more to see here.
Screw this smug "see how clever we are" bullshit! Do your fucking jobs Democrats and impeach this arrogant criminal shithead. God, I am so tired of this blatant dumbness while watching our country go down the shitter because those in power are simply being cracker ass politicians. Don't these idiots realize that we have troops on the ground in a foreign country dieing because of this VP and his lackey the president. This is so depressing and not funny at fucking all.
it'd make a nice point to cheney -- not that he'd really get it -- but I'd be very surprised if the Dems follow through.
impeach. impeach. impeach.
As I've said before, I trust the DLC Poster Boy just slightly more than I trust the Dick. The Democrats should be out there finding microphones and screaming loudly about all this corruption and treason against America by this criminal administration every damn day, not all this chest-thumping about cutting off 4.5 mil of funding for the Dick. This is laughable. Every Democrat member of the House should sign the impeachment bill to impeach this low-life bastard. We damn sure have enough evidence to warrant that.
Cheney should not be calling the shots here; and the Democrats should not be "playing" this silly, meaningless game with him.
If Cheney declares himself dictator, will the Dems say, "Oh, we'll play along with this and dissolve Congress...SO THERE!"
Impeach this repugnant criminal and get the crud out of OUR government. He's mocking all of us and is giving history the middle finger.
Defund and ask for a refund for the past six years.
Scarecrow @ 39:
Our government?
why do i have the sinking suspiscion that this, the most current, brouhaha really has cheney and addington laughing? such a ridiculous claim (that the veep is not in the executive--despite him using his executive position for previous excuses for uber secrecy), completely insulting to common sense, yet, just watch as all the talking heads shows 'he said/she said' it to death. addington and cheney must be amused, thinking to themselves, "holy fuck me, they are actually buying this? we really can do and say anything we want. anything." cheney might have a reptilian heart, but his balls are elephantine.
and rahm emanuel? phppt, whatever dude, you ONLY look somewhat decent b/c the opposition is on par with lucifer.
"Two senior Republican officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said that the rationale had been the view of the vice president’s lawyers, not Cheney himself."
The lawyers made me say that. Please.
Impeach.
if the dems actually follow through and stick to it this time, they will have made up a small measure of respect that they have lost in the last few months since taking office. still a small step is better than no step. if they falter and don't even try to push this through, then they will be exposed for what they are, cowards who are lapdogs as well to the bushies. so, what's it going to be this time?
Being that his office is part of the Constitution,and that he took an oath of office to defend the Constitution.This clearly violates his oath.Throw the de-funding at him for the hell of it,But start the IMPEACHMENT proccedings NOW.This flim flam man needs to go down.Does anyone remember about 2 years ago when the VP's Home had a big truck parked in front of it unloading industrial sized shredders? He's been planning this for years.
And even if Cheney has disowned this stupid argument, they should still de-fund the office unless there is full compliance, retroactively. Then look into what has been destroyed and no longer available. And begin impeachment proceedings.
PNAAC Minister @ 34:
Yes, his secrets are safe.
Kucinich is right on impeachment but the Dems do not have the spine.
Lets hope when he goes in for surgery to relace his batteries, the gop will replace him.
I bet Nixon is proud of Cheney.
the only reason i would back the dems pushing this through is because it would show they have the stones to do it. if they have the intestinal fortitude to do this, can impeachment proceedings be far behind??? IMPEACH NOW, IMPEACH NOW, IMPEACH NOW. the cocky bas.......s need to go down now. they've literally taken the country apart and with their smugness and their aloof arrogance, they are not even aware that there will not be a country for them to rule over when all is said and done. the country has withstood a civil war, internment of its own people, mighty protests over the vietnam war, and yet this current condition stands as the greatest evil to ever befall this nation. who will rise as a great leader to take us from the catastrophe that stands before us. will it be a lady, a black man, the haircut man, a prognosticator, or someone who has yet to surface. we're looking for leadership.
Liberal AND Proud @ 5:
Agreed.
They are slapping wrists when they should be pushing for impeachment. Not part of the Executive? Sure, we'll make it official.
This nonsense that they DECIDE whether to prosecute based on the chance they will convict is ridiculous. When you think a crime or incompetence or dereliction of duty has occurred, you impeach, which starts a discovery process. There is always another excuse; it's distracting, too close to the elections, more important things. Well what are they doing about those important things? Nothing, because the Executive is out of control.
It sounds like enabling to me.
I'm sick of this. Investigations and ending electronic voting and voter suppression are the top priorities -- because if those aren't solved, nothing else can be done. Everything flows from what gives a politician power. If it's corporate money, and they can flip a switch at Diebold and decide the election -- then citizen outrage becomes useless. And if they don't investigate -- they have no leverage.
I've listened to all the arguments against impeachment, and it just means that you could argue that nobody should be impeached, unless 75% of the Senate agrees to do it, before they investigate. You know, just getting the truth on the record can do a whole lot.
But of course, Democrats and Republicans who've been complicit, might not want impeachment. It means we can only trust politicians who are FOR impeachment.
im wondering you dont think cheny uses the same dildo on lynn as he does on us do you? gosh id at least he dips it in toilet water first! oh wait he does!
Done. It was easy, and it felt great.
Write your Congressperson. They *are* tallying the responses,
regardless of what they eventually do.
So basically, we're waiting on the Democrats to show enough gumption to stand up to The Prince Of Darkness himself? That's damn well laughable, based on the "Speak somewhat loudly, but not TOO loudly, and carry a tickle feather" politics they've been engaging in ever since they took the majority. And I say that as a liberal. These clowns are embarassing in the way that they reinforce every negative stereotype about Democrats, from both a liberal and a neo-con perspective.
Any Candidates from either side been pushing Peace and Prosperity in their campaigns?
Just heard on CNN, Senate committee subpoena WH and cheney's office on domestic spying.
Mobilizing to Support OVP Funding Cut
Letter writing campaign started here based on links, analysis of Addington letter, and the Security requirements.
Prepare for the OVP-GOP excuses to link "cutting funds for OVP" with the absurd "attacks on troops." There is clear precedent for cutting funding for entities that do not reform: Precedent clearly established.
Please ask your friends to review the links, discuss the issues with those involved with the writing campaign, and prepare in advance for the GOP methods they plan to block DNC efforts, as detailed here.
Good luck, and thank you for your support.
Mr. Olbermann, you need to go after Cheney's secret boss. Cheney worships at his feet and obeys every order. If not, Cheney will have a massive heart attack.
Expose the big boss!
Didn't think so.
Rahm is a Tool.
He says over and over that Cheney's logic is "ludacris" and yet he also insists on following that ludacris logic.
This whole thing is a game and a distraction so that Rahm and KO don't have to talk about Kucinich's articles of Impeachment.
What pussies.
BTW I personally went to my congressperson's office and requested that they support Kucinich's articles of Impeachment and all I got was the brush off and a form letter telling me that Impeachment would be the distraction, from all the good work the Dems want to do.
I'm waiting to see.... I like the idea, But I'm waiting to see of Congress has the guts to pull the trigger on that defunding bit... The truth of the matter is when dealing with the Dick Cheneys of the world, the only thing that will actually get their attention IS to hit them in the pocketbook.... Defund this fuck and then see what happens... Something will... The status quo is ruining the nation on so many levels... I have less that complete faith that these people who would claim to have leadership qualities will have the courage to do this.. Though it is obvious that this is probably the only course to take in dealing with this person at this point given his stated intentions... Do you have the guts Congress? Or will you show yourselves to be spineless punked out wimps yet again.. This nation is watching all of it.. Along with the rest of the world.......JD
How hard will it be for Cheney to get a corporate sponsor to pay the office expenses? Hell he'll have a bigger budget then ever.
I guess they won't be asking the question are you better off now then you were six and a half years ago till 08?
If at all?
Jack Damage @ 60:
Thats part of the Problem.
"Watching"
One has to wonder what the right would of done had Gore tried this....hypocracy at a whole other level.
...but whether or not they follow through on this remains to be seen..."
That always seems to be the case with our so-called Dem leaders. They remind of small dogs who bark alot. When push comes to shove, they go running back inside with their tails tucked between their legs, peeing all the way.
Cheenneey pulls this move right when the Supreme Court rules against Freedom of Speech.....coincinence?
damn typo's
L.A. Confidential @ 63:
Be glad that the world is only watching. And be concerned about how long they will merely stand by and watch.
Iran gets invaded, or bombed. The world will NOT stand aside this time. They will not be party to lies again...lies made directly to them...in the United Nations. Credibility is not recovered overnight, and sometimes it is never regained.
Our government and by association our country no longer has credibility with the decent law abiding citizens of this planet.
We have run roughshod over our OWN rules and laws, nevermind the damage done to international law.
We may not be a rogue nation YET, but it will only take one serious event to turn the tables. Two world wars were started over what appeared to be small events. We have been fortunate that Iraq has not escalated into a wider affair in the middle east. It is only because SERIOUS pressure is being applied to us...you may not SEE it...but it is. George Bush got read the RIOT ACT at the G8 Summit. Believe it. He came home with his tail between his legs.
Dick Cheney is a MADMAN. That is eminently clear. If he is allowed to bomb Iran, things will escalate very quickly...and the result will not be good for us....or for anyone.
"This sole explicit reference for the purpose of exempting the OVP from a provision of the Order supports an interpretation that the rest of the Order does apply," Leonard wrote. "Otherwise there would be no need for an exemption." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/26/AR200706...
Yes, under the maxim of statutory construction, expressio unius est exclusio alterius, if exemptions are specified in a statute, we may not imply additional exemptions unless there is a clear legislative intent to the contrary.
Let's see, it took the Democrats in Congress six years to become indignant to the point of actually attempting to do something significant with these scoundrels and we expect this "threat" to come to pass? Sure, they are having their hearings, but what teeth will they have with these Democratic cowards who fear the 26% of the population he still support these assholes? I ain't holdin' my breath.
L.A. Confidential @ 63:
What else is on?
I'm not advocating violence against anyone but[deleted]
Yes you are.
equilibrio @ 59:
L.A confidential;
Agreed.... But it will literally take millions in the streets nationwide before the pitchforks and torches argument will have any real resonance I think... And as much as I hate to say it... I don't see any of that happening... A few hundred here or there...yea, But they just get shunted off into little playpens now blocks away from any real ability to effect anything... or beaten with rubber clubs or bullets and arrested and run thru nightcourts or whatever...
Right now it's a rigged setup that protects the miscreants from the kinds of criticism that might at least scare them into paying attention.. Being scared of the constituents and then actually doing something to placate the masses? That's a whole different can of worms... Politicans as a generic group don't like to think that they have to respond to threatening ennuendo from the electorate. No, they want to be bought or otherwise sucked up to in order to get them to do something..
That's yet another problem that exists.. A problem that repubs encourage more of thru their specific actions at multiple levels of society and government via decrees, opinions vented thru the MSM and invented regulations...sometimes to justify, sometimes to cover up misdeeds ongoing...
At this point, IF it could even be started and God bless Dennis Kucinich for trying... but at this point, we're not actually just talking about one impeachment anymore.. It's clear we need two, possibly three... Just to begin with.......JD
ysbaddaden @ 73:
They could have at least finished the sentence. "all the good work the Dems want to do...for their corporate masters."
ysbaddaden Says: How about cut Dick?
He looks like he could use a briss.
I know the perfect "Moyel" for this job.
Ken "Shakey" Mehlman of the medical firm of Gannon, Mehlman & Rove.
Word has it that nobody handles "Dick" better than these guys.
It all seems to fucking juvenile. "I'm the fourth branch!" "Oh yeah? Well I'm going to defund you!" When Dick Cheney climbs the empire state buidling and claims to be god, will the congress then be able to impeach the schmoe, or will they first have to go on Keith Olbermann's show and talk about his serious lack of etiquette or threatening to "hit them in the pocketbook" as one commenter said? Oh my god, he claimed, contrary to the knowledge of any high school student making a c grade or better, contrary to 200 years of generally undisputed precedent, written down in Article 2 section 1 of the constitution, to be not of this branch or the other, but of both and neither. At what point does he become a treasonous threat to our nation? Who is this fucking guy, or can drunkenly shoot people in the face and create his own branch of government? And pardon my hysteria, but jesus.
Lib and Proud @ 68;
Well said...............JD
Another look at Dick's achievements:
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/cheney/chapters/leaving_no_tracks/index.html
Cheney is the equivalent of a drug lord or crime boss...all the underlings take the rap and the kingpin always seems to get away with it. He knows how to manipulate your system and worse yet he's doing it right out in the open, pretty much daring anyone to do something about it.
This alone is troubling, but worse yet is if nothing in fact does happen to him. Complicit? Gutless? What does that say about the American system? About American justice? About your political parties and politics?
America should hang it's head in shame if this simply drifts away to make room for more Paris Hilton coverage. This undermines America more than any terrorist act possibly could.
More Dem pseudo leadership. Emmanual has glommed onto this issue (or was it assigned to him?) to look tough. If he wants to look tough, then defund the fucking WAR. I could care less about this bullshit.
Where is Donald Trump when you need him...YOU'RE FIRED!
I did, here's what one of them said:
I understand the strong condemnation of actions of Vice President
Cheney, which leads you to believe that filing articles of
impeachment against him would be a good approach, but I
disagree on that choice of this specific tactic.
My view of the effort to impeach the Vice President is identical to
my view of the effort to impeach President Bush. The fact is that
there is zero chance of an impeachment proceeding resulting in the
removal of either of them, since this would require the support of
two thirds of the United States Senate and there is absolutely no
chance of this happening. This is particularly the case because,
sadly, many of the things that this Administration has done wrong
were in fact done with the concurrence of many members of
Congress - almost all Republicans, and unfortunately a few
Democrats. That is, some members of Congress would be in the
difficult position of voting in effect to impeach themselves and
they would be reluctant to admit error to that degree.
I do think that it is important for us to go on the offensive against
both the President and the Vice President now that we have
regained control of both of the Houses, but I think that is best done
by very sharp investigations of the abuses that we have seen, both
of civil liberties and of the fundamental principles of appropriate
fiscal management. The abuses in Iraq that have benefited
Halliburton and others are prime examples of what we should be
dealing with.
We should also continue to press the Bush Administration on the
disastrous war in Iraq, which was a mistake from the beginning
and has only gotten worse with the passage of time; on its
wiretapping of Americans in violation of the law; and on its refusal
to recognize the basic right of anyone imprisoned by the United
States to bring forward a defense in a neutral forum. These and
other policy decisions, I believe, are becoming steadily more
unpopular. Shifting the debate from these substantive matters to
one about impeachment will only allow the President and the Vice
President to defend themselves on firmer ground. Indeed, there are
Republicans who will be willing to support us on some of these
issues - some who did not support them originally - but party
loyalty will almost surely make them allies of the Bush
Administration in an impeachment fight.
Therefore, making impeachment the issue puts us in a weaker
position than fighting on all of these specific issues. President
Bush and Vice President Cheney have less than two years left in
office, and with Democrats now in control of both Houses of
Congress, a far better way to defend the values that we care about
is to press the Administration on specific policies, and in fact to
enact restrictions - which are possible if we can get enough support
in Congress - that will prevent these abuses from continuing.
BARNEY FRANK
Not gonna happen then, they are spineless and won't fight a battle they can't absolutely win. Even if fighting it would be the right thing to do.
Oh...no chance of winning so don't do it.
SPINELESS. And the contempt for the People is transparent.
The impeachment of Nixon was NOT a slam dunk. But it did force his resignation.
Its not WHY Bush leaves...it is simply that he should LEAVE.
Vice Fuhrer Darth Fudd is clearly delusional, has been the entire time we've known him. But now it seems enough even that Congress might want to appear to be doing something about it. Wouldn't it be a hoot if the Republicans force the sympathy for them the Majority has been so contortionistically trying to avoid creating. Poor *, bullied by a psychotic old fiend with the pacemaker from hell who had to be carted off by the men in white coats.... The insanity defense has got to be a serious consideration for these guys... or calling off elections....
If you don't stop doing these terrible things Mr P and Mr VP, then we will be forced to press you further on specific policies. And you know what means don't you? More words!!!!.muahahahahahahahah!!!!!
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This issue finally brings the story of America into the realm of black comedy. For six and one half years we have been sold fear and war and lies and secrecy while Cheney and Bush have designed and implemented their own genocide in the middle east for gain. They have managed to destroy every bit of leverage we have had with other nations, they have destroyed the trust and respect we had in the world and this will not be an easy or quick thing to fix and they have made our country more of a target, not less. And while all this was happening, where was our press and our representatives? Where are the represented? We have come to believe that a democracy demands no participation. We were ripe for this to happen to our country. But, let's look on the bright side - The DLC Poster Boy is going to take 4.5 mil away from Cheney - maybe.
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WAIT!
Playing into the hands of the V.P. is not accountability...
What Emanuel proposes...
Doing so validates Cheney's position.
Doing so allows Cheney's arguments, legs to stand on.
Doing so codifies Cheney's position, that the OVP is a fourth branch, unaccountable.
What Emanuel does equates to a baseball team owner/manager letting his pitcher demand that he pitch from first base. Even IF the rules of baseball clearly state that the pitcher must be on the mound, yada yada yada... because in his contract it doesn't explicitly state that the pitcher must pitch from ON the mound, the pitcher now controls the terms? A good manager/owner would throw that pitcher out on his ass so fast and NOT agree to pay him a first baseman's salary while being out a pitcher. NO? A good manager would demand that the pitcher fulfill the entire terms of his contract or a good manager would get a pitcher willing to pitch, in accordance of the rules.
The American public voted "PLAY BALL!" in the November elections. It is time for Congress to stop playing catch with the Constitution and bunt, hit, out get off the plate.
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Don't just cut his funding, cut his funding and pass a tax bill aimed only at Dick Cheney so his back pay is returned and is given back to the American taxpayer.
Earmark a special spending bill that all of the money recovered will be split up among returned disable Iraq war vets.
Le's see the bastards squawk against that.
"..we will accept nothing less than full disclosure and transparency".
If they have to be reminded, they're not worth a bucket of warm piss to begin with.
"Yes you are."
So now you know what I'm thinking?
You should look up the word "advocating." I don;t think you know what it means.
Pope Todd @ 83:
THIS is why WE THE PEOPLE must step it up and start to stand up to these tratirors...
Oops... I did mean that too, and here is why...
Is torture the new American Principle now?
Is waging wars of aggression the new American Principle?
Is warrantless wiretapping the American people, the new American Principle?
Is with holding our natural Birth Rights, as outlined BY our Founders, the new American Principle?
Not only has the Executive Branch instituted this new American Principle system we are blessed with, Congress, in many instance, did it for the W.H. Just look at the MCA of 2006. Penned BY Congress, voted to in majority BY Congress. Attempting to usurp from the people, their Birth Right of Habeas Corpus. In the MCA it explicitly states ANY persons found to be an enemy combatant... ANY PERSONS! This can mean Americans too. Congress acted AGAINST the people Rights, attempted to restrain and with hold this most basic right.
Now Frank plays 'get-a-long' so as to not create waves. Isn't this what he did under Republican rule too?
The more they times change... the more things stay the same.
Isn't it about time to DEMAND from people like Franks, to fulfill their Oath of Office? Start Defending the Constitution and repudiating those in this Nation who seek to weaken the resolve of WE THE PEOPLE?
OUR Rights have been placed in peril. The Nation's Liberty for Her people is what is at stake. And it only happened because good men sat by and did nothing. Franks proposes the same action, to DO NOTHING! I gotta tell ya, my Progressive Congressman, McDermott, is the same way. I've already written him questioning his Patriotism and his lack of defense for what this Nation was founded on. Patriots stand up, not stand down. NO?
Defunding??? Rahm should be IMPEACHING.
Great. If the VP does not belong in the executive branch, then cut off his executive branch funding. In addition, he cannot use the argument that he falls under executive privilege, so we should get to look at all of his dirty mail.
From what I understand they don't have the votes, so the Likudnik/AIPAC/ sycophant is just wasting everybody's time, and should be upholding the constitution (America's) and IMPEACHING Cheney for committing crimes against the United States.
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Rewarding Cheney's argument with a Senatorial Salary is NOT holding Cheney accountable TO the Office of the V.P.
Emanuel states over and over that Cheney must be held accountable... then I ask of Emanuel... TO WHAT STANDARD? OVP or SENATE?
If Cheney wishes to remain V.P. then he must be held to THAT job Duty and no other. Emanuel attempts to accept Cheney's argument and comport it to being a Senator. It's all a big joke, perpetrated by Cheney, propagated by Emanuel through his playing into Cheney's wishes by not holding Cheney accountable to the Duty he was Elected to fulfill.
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Max-1 @ 96:
How about a flag pole standard?
Rahm, you are fooling no one. You are the reason why
people lose confidence in politics. Of coarse, the people
who want a third party candidate are perfectly willing
to have another republican administration in 08.
The reason being; what the hey they're all the same.
Really? These guys should stick their heads back
under the covers or into another beer and continue
bitching about how they're all alike when the right
steels another one in 08. (But Nader didn't cause
Gore and Kerry to lose, right? In 2000 they did and it otherwise
serves to dilute the vote count of a ignorant population who don't.)
longnow @ 98:
I could not have put it better!
BTW, where the fuck is nancy?strong>
Big deal: how schoolyard. When you run the planet, secretly, 4.5 million is nothing. How about something with some bite, like fry his fat ass in hot oil???
I'll believe it when I see it. I have yet to see Reid or Pelosi or Rahm do anything except cave and give in.
Its quite a clever move, the VP was claiming he had executive privilege and coundnt be touched or investigated by Congress,
The security and archives people try and move in, so the VP moves his office outside the Exec shield, BINGO hes fair game to Congress, game set and match or CHECKMATE.
The various Congressional committees now have the power to walk in and grab the lot.
If the VP refuses to oversight, hes breaking the law, if he gets third party funding, hes breaking the law,
If he move sback under exec prov he gets clobbered by the archive people, who have to hand over their material to Congress if asked.
Last year according to reports, lots of mobile shredding trucks were going to and from various gov buildings just before the elections, so there must be massive gaping hole sin gov documents, illegal conduct.
Basically hes been outmaneuvered and now is screwed.
anon @ 103:
He's only outmaneuvered if his counterparts play like they want to fucking WIN!
Cheney's continued existence is proof that the "God" that we are taught does not exist.
I completely agree with the de funding of the VP's entire office at the VP's own omission.
I would also strongly suggest a drug test for the Legislative VP.
Then a mental stability exam.
The VP is under tremendous stress and these recent revelations in his behavior does not meet a standard of rationale of sanity for a VP, especially during post 9/11 and the Iraq occupation world..
I am so ready for the trials to begin.
The Vice President is obviously out of control and his actions are flat out delusional, yet it seems nothing can be done to stop him.
If you want to stop him...
IMPEACH
I say defang the Dick.
That way he would have to gum his victims's necks.
"Remind them that he’s a public servant who is accountable to the American people, and we will accept nothing less than full disclosure and transparency."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Sorry, now that I got that out of my system...
Wow, some people are so naive. Are you saying that over the last 6 years the American people have NOT accepted anything less than the crap that continues to go on?
The American people HAVE accepted less, they are continuing to accept less, and they will forever accept less if they don't start to change their ideas on what government is supposed to do for them.
Sadly, most people believe that government (or at least WANT to believe, which is even worse) to be more than what they really are and what they really represent.
See, we can give government the go-ahead to make laws in our daily lives (i.e. minimum wage, taxes, corporate handouts, subsidies, the list goes on and on), and sure things may go well for a while. They may even go VERY well for a long time. But what these supporters DON'T understand is that eventually there will be bad people elected and they will twist and take advantage of the naive honesty and faith that people have placed in government. The decision-making responsibility that used to be with the individual person later ends up with government. From then on, the government makes decisions. Becuase they make decisions that affect everybody, many people are hurt by those decisions. The only problem now is that there is no escape.
Ladies and gentlemen, the good old USA used to industrious, hard-working, and wealthy. We used to take responsibility for our lives and we expected no less from others.
Now we are a nation of sissies who can't make any decisions anymore, because a corrupted eductional system has created a large number of poisonous intellectuals and affectual people that spew out notions that people are inherently evil and so we must have a great big government to fix everything.
The longer this love of good government and hatred for the evil free enterprise goes on, the more problems we will face, and the less prosperous we will become. We THINK we are solving solutions by giving up the responsibility of making seemingly hard decisions. We THINK that if there are more anti-trust laws, more regulations for "out of control" business firms, more welfare, more spending, more more more more more more...
We are killing ourselves people. We need to start refreshed and begin at the root of the problem. We have to rebuild this once glorious country from the ground up. We have to start over because we lost it. It is GONE. We do not have what we used to have. America is now a fascist country. The fascism is discreet, but it exists. It exists in the corporation-government relationship of screwing the people and STEALING their means of survival and happiness.
You can take either side, you can vouch for less government and more business, or you can vouch for more government and less business. Or you can continue to naively believe that there can somehow be a balance that can be kept stable. Well, that is impossible as NUMEROUS people have said in the past, but were ignored. The ONLY solution is to start anew and make this country a republic once again. Democracy has failed us.
We need to protect the one, little, innocent child from the 300 million other people in the country who would like to take its rights away. That is what democracy is. 51% tells the other 49% what to do. A republic will guarantee that even 99% of the people will not be able to force the remaining 1% to do anything they don't want to do like pay taxes, pay for public education, send children to war, or fund any government program, which is inherently theft.
THIS is the only way we can fix our country. We must have people in government who SWEAR by this code. We need to elect Constitutionalists. We need to have people in the federal government who swear to protect everyone's rights. We need them to shut the door to any and all forms of bribary, threats, or the shedding of crocodile tears by people who demand government handouts (which money comes from other people against their will).
Does anyone here even realize that the Constitution NEVER even ONCE mentions democracy? The US was never supposed to be the way it is. It was supposed to be a republic. It was supposed to be a nation of free men and women. It was supposed to be the best country in the world.
But it was corrupted by those who don't believe in individual choice.
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