Sunday Talking Head Thread
By Christy Hardin Smith Saturday Jun 30, 2007 7:22am
(Photo of coffee and a cinnamon vanilla sugar honey brioche donut via Chodta.)
The Sunday Talking Head line-up is ready for perusal.
Sen. Leahy ought to be an excellent interview. Just based on his appearance at the habeas and rule of law restoration -- and his level of snarky retorts about the state of the rule of law at the moment -- that is one discussion that could get fun. Then again, it's Meet Tim Russert, so I'm not exactly getting my hopes up. It's early yet.
Also, the Zbig versus Kissinger discussion on CNN could get amusing. Last time those two were matched up on a foreign policy discussion, I got the distinct impression that Dr. Brzezenski wanted to laugh out loud at some of the things coming our of Dr. Kissinger's mouth. And, frankly, I can't say I blame him.
Michael Chertoff, the Bush Administration's head of Homeland Security is book on a number of shows to talk about, I'm certain, the at least two bombs that the British diffused. If an interviewer wanted to ask a question worth asking, how about this one: what ever happened to the nothing to fear but fear itself attitude? Because, frankly, the all fear alla time attitude of te Bush Administration wore thin a helluva long time ago with me.
I'll take this Kung Fu Monkey take on the world any day instead. So, what's catching your eye on the blogs or in the news this morning?
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I'd like to know what happened to the anthrax? I'd like to know why this mystery hasn't been solved.
Also, what did happen to the guy... that guy.. with the beard... the one who pretty much engineered the entire 9/11 attack. You know, that skinny guy. Osama Been Forgotten?
Chertoff on FNS just called Iraq "a labratory for learning new (terrorism) techniques", but refused to callit a "training ground".
Just google Dr. Philip Zack! It's been 2,013 days since WMD said he'd catch Nine Eleven "Conspirator" UBL???
There is not only something terribly terribly wrong with the U.S. Government and its Corporate "News" Media, there is something terribly terribly wrong with the American People. The Cognitive Dissonance is real thick!
100 Afghan Civilians Dead in U.S. Air Strike! I didn't see that on any breaking news. I guess our expensive smart bombs don't kill human beings, the evil terrorists kill human beings? Uh what's the difference? regards
Hype-Jersey @ 1:
Uh we aren't supposed to mention he whose name must not be mentioned on C&L. Not Voldemort, but UBL!
Chertoff is not inspiring.
Why did Chertoff keep referring to "the homeland" instead of using terms like our country or America?
I liked what Leahy said, he sure as hell didn't come across as chicken shit when it comes to his investigation.
One that I found interesting was comparing Bush to Neville Chamberlain, the British PM in the period before WWII. There was one particular phrase that caught my attention.
"Arrogant and stupid. Who is this article referring to?" I asked my wife who was sitting near me checking e-mail.
"Bush?"
"No, but it was a good guess," I replied. "Neville Chamberlain." I went on to remind her who Chamberlain was.
Someday, people will have to be reminded who Bush was, too.
FNS just has Conservo-nut Mike Galleger debate AAR Prez Mike Green regarding the Conservative slant in talk radio.
Green didn't do that great of a job and was all overthe place in defending his point, but Galleger... with his rubber-faced mouth-open grin of mock surprise... was a total wanker.
I've got to agree with the Kung Fu Monkey when it comes to terrorism. I mean, take the guy who got caught by law enforcement in a town close to mine for example. He was said to a member of ALF and had some pretty funky stuff at his house. Here is just a bit from the article along with a link. This guy, just like any other form of extremist was caught buy simple, old fashioned police work. People like that have been around since the dawn of mankind and always will be. No Army is going to prevent that. In fact, some, like Tim McVeigh were members of an Army at one time.
Explosives Suspect Had Animal Rights Magazine
Police: Longmont Man Also Had Guns In Home
"Police said the 400 chemicals they found included homemade nitroglycerin and MEKP, a volatile chemical that had been stabilized and hidden in the basement.
Officers said they also found model rockets, rocket kits and engines, a launching pad for model rockets, books on homemade explosives, expensive chemistry glassware, a handwritten "to-do" list and warning note, flare guns, a Taser weapon and three metal grenade shells."
http://cbs4denver.com/local/local_story_172152229.html
"cinnamon vanilla sugar honey brioche donut "
Osama might be in that donut. Looks like everything else is. Sorry can't get serious on a beautiful sunday.
This morning on the CBC radio they were interviewing Daniel Ellsberg the man who revealed top secret papers regarding the Viet Nam war in the 1970's and brought to light the truth of what the government was doing, changing the course of the war.
Two things that he said struck me.
The first was his statement regarding why he had done it.
He said that at the time he realized he had taken an oath to defend and uphold the constitution of the United States, not to the office of the president or vice president and not to the men in those offices and THAT was a big part of what pushed him to do what he did.
The second thing that caught my attention was his repeated mention of the vice president.
Whenever Mr. Ellsberg referred to the current US administration and their plans in the middle east he would name Cheney and the office of the Vice before mentioning the president whom he did not speak of by name in the entire first segment I heard. He made several statements in regards to influencing the current government and their decisions in the middle east and when he did, Cheney and the vice office were always first when speaking of who was in charge, who had their eyes on Iran and who had to be influenced to stop.
It would appear from the things I've read and heard that cheney has all but usurped the office of the president. If that isn't an impeachable offense I don't know what is.
Mr. Ellsberg said he feels a concerted effort on the part of those employees working in the white house could influence the war planners to change their course. Even if they have to do what he did in order to make it clear to the public to do it. The interviewer pointed out that several different people have revealed what were considered secret plans of the white house and it changed very little or nothing. Mr. Ellsberg seems to think that if the anonymous sources for these important documents would come forward with their facts the impact would be greater.
I agree with him but those individuals could also be assured of spending time in prison while the real criminals would remain in office and continue unhindered.
I'm afraid the only thing that will stop cheney and his need to bomb another country would be a final heart attack.
Selling the threat of bioterrorism By David Willman
An ex-Soviet scientist raised fears, helped shape U.S. policy and sought to profit.
http://www.latimes.com/news/la-na-alibek1jul01,0,1857764.story?coll=la-t...
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Er, so basically, all this terrrrrizm was really about money, eh?
and when the Chinese get about $1B in technology from Lockheed and use it to take down a satellite, the US government give Lockheed a $7B contract for the technology to thwart a satellite attack.
OK, I get it now! It's ALL about the money!
I'm afraid you're right and the 'foregone conclusion of cowardice' which is current Democrat policy brings no comforting thoughts, either.
I hope we can ride this one out. But, According to the shrub's own declaration, one sneeze and he declares martial law and suspends the election. posse comitatus via blackwater?
‘Firebomb’ car rams terminal at 30mph
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article2010121.ece
What kind of airport fire dept. would spray H2O on burning fuel when they have huge foam squirting trucks?
100 Afghan Civilians Dead in U.S. Air Strike
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/30/AR200706...
What up with the "News" Blackout on Afghanistan and Iraq?
BaScOmBe @ 12:
Bring it on! It might work for a few days, but after a while there would be a revolution. I believe that bringing down this inept bankrupt and tyrannical government and replacing it with a government of Teachers, Fire Fighters, Military, Peace Activists, we the people is the only way to win back respect of the world. Go read the Declaration of Independence. Go read the U.S. Constitution and Bill or Rights. regards
FNS "Person ofthe Week: Robert Norquist.
Can't they call him "Grover"?
Why watch these Sunday morning political talk shows? You can almost write the scripts in advance. These shows and the White House press conferences are the poorest examples of journalism in America today.
Read a book. Post a blog. Walk your dog ... anything. Let these shows die so they might be replaced by something more substantial. Mabye even something Internet-based.
I'm listening to MSNBC and the anchor just said that Bush is spending the weekend at his PARENT's house in Maine. Ok, so normally this would be no big thing right? Adult children visiting their parents home over a holiday weekend. Then why am I so creeped out by this?
I just can't help picturing our commander in chief leaping out of the car apon arrival and racing brother Jeb to the bedroom so that he can exclaim TOP BUNK!!! Or maybe SHOTGUN!!
Does he suck his thumb while watching tv? Does he wear diapers to bed?
Ok, I need coffee..
Apparently invitations for the representatives of the antiwar movement to appear on the corporate airwaves have again mysteriously disapeared in the mail, or via email. Perhaps their answering machines somehow stopped functioning. One wonders what the television networks and cable programs are so terrified of. Could it be that the mention and focus of war could get people in this country to analyze and question if this war/occupation is actually necessary? That would probably be the last thing that the government and the media would like to see happen.
dogeatdogi @ 17:
Yea, and apparently Putin is going to be there to. Maybe Bush is afraid that Putin is going to do some Judo moves on him so he needs poppy Bush for protection. After all, we have seen how Bush and the neo-cons fight in real life. They don't, and chicken out just like they did during Vietnam.
CTony @ 16:
I used to love watching cartoons on Sunday morning until they were all replaced by political talking head shows. So now I just take the opportunity to sleep late.
CTony @ 16:
They won't be replaced by something else while the media is in bed with the administration.
Hey, I have a great idea for international relations. Since Putin is going to the Bush family home in Maine maybe he can bring some entertainment! Putin could bring the hotties from the Russian ladies band Serebro who placed third at this years Eurovision Song Contest. Who knows, maybe Bush will try to give the lead singer a shoulder rub like he did Angela Merkel if Putin brought them. Nah, maybe that won't work after all. The lead singer for the band practices Kendo and she is a feisty one. That would be embarrassing an moment for Bush. Oh well, scratch that idea.
http://www.serebrogirls.blogspot.com/
So what's going to happen with the White House's claim of Executive Privilege. The Congress has given them ten days to "explain" or something . . .what's going to happen at the end of the ten days. NPR has a segment on their site over the history of Executive Privilege and reported that these clashes rarely end up in court, but that usually a compromise is made. Can't see the WH compromising. Will Congress cave again?
An open mind is like an 4WD ATV. These Sunday morning talk shows and such are a way of providing rails to train you to think in a predetermined direction.
CTony @ 16:
While you mightbe able to script the questions, so often do we get that rare gem of an answer that make the highlight reel. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbRp7xlhgbo
Three for three.
Chertoff on FNS, MtP, and now "This Week". Yeesh.
I just watched Joe Lieberman (R) AIPAC compare the Middle East today to Europe in the 30's and how the US didn't stand up to Hitler then.
Is Coulter Lieberman in drag?
If an interviewer wanted to ask a question worth asking, how about this one: what ever happened to the nothing to fear but fear itself attitude? Because, frankly, the all fear alla time attitude of te Bush Administration wore thin a helluva long time ago with me.
Since the modern conservative movement was built entirely around an anti-FDR platform, I guess they decided that one had to go, too.
Someone made a music video about these Sunday morning talk shows.
Interesting information at DubyaD40.com re: the "Presidential Advance Manuel" a guideline used by this administration to "handle" protest and dissent.
Tootsie @ 31:
"Manuel"?
You mean "Manual", nt the ittle Mexican guy, right?
Any wheat gluten in that donut?
Liberman is using the Glasgow/London bombings to argue the failed immigration reform bill on "TW".
Chertoff and Glasgow all over the morning shows. You don't suppose they're trying to scare us, do you?
Joe said The Surge IS working, "HALF of Baghdad is under our control!"
Slideguy @ 35:
They expect people to believe an amateurish botched half assed job like this was the work of a sophisticated team of international terrorists?
Yawn
100 Afghan Civilians Dead in U.S. Air Strike
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/30/AR200706...
What up with the "News" Blackout on Afghanistan and Iraq?
Paris Hilton isn't there.
She's THE NEWS now.
It's hard to believe that CNN got someone duller than Wolfe for commentator. I almost falling asleep typing this.
Here's a story that's sure to brighten your day.
Right wing radio host sentenced to three years in jail.
http://rackjite.com/serendipity/archives/98-Jon-Matthews,-Right-wing-Hou...
It no longer even seems ironic that right wingers who rail against gays turn out to be closet cases and foaming at the mouth law and order types turn out to be thieving pedophiles. We should just assume the worst about these people as soon as they open their mouths. Grandstanding is the mark of someone who has something to hide.
Ron @ 39:
Me wanna be famous. Love me love me love me.
http://tinyurl.com/2t3mvj
Well think I'll go back to work on our "Ark".
Back later
straight shooter @ 28:
LIEberman is going off the deep end, he really is. That interview on This Week (and why does he keep getting airtime?) was SICK. The only good thing is that his delusional insanity is starting to show through so clearly that no one will take him credibly much longer. AIPAC may even abandon this idiot soon.
Chertoff is the one person who scares the hell out of me and
if we are going to continue using the various colored levels
to notify the public of a potential terriorist attack, then each
and every time he appears on TV/radio, the "scare level"
should be coded in bright RED
Mugsy @ 36:
Which means, even if you accept Lieberman's Big Lie, that means that half of Baghdad is Out of Control. WoW. That sure is something to brag about, isn't it. When a city is 50% out of control, it is all out of control.
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L.A. Confidential @ 42:
L.A....Just be sure to build the Ark large enough to include
dinasours since we co-existed with them just 6,000 years
ago.
Doggiebobo @ 44:
It's not Chertoff you need to be worried about. It's the morons who buy into this sh*t you need to be worried about.
Doggiebobo @ 46:
LOL no it's not a boat.
Snowball @ 40:
Why do you think they're against stem cell research. They want more children to attack.
Noah must have used a Solar Powered Ark. How else did he manage to travel to every continent to round up all the creatures on the Planet, and then return them all back to South America, Australia, Africa, etc once the world was no longer under Water. I wonder where all that water went. Hmmm.
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L.A. Confidential @ 47:
Holy Joe's appearance on ABC once again confirms that he is a national treasure. "Big Brother is watching you" is now simple "common sense." And who can disagree? Let a zillion spy cameras be installed everywhere across this great land. Only then, will we be safe!
$5 a gal Milk?
PROOFREAD YOUR POSTS!!!!! What a fucking nuisance to read about politics when it's written by someone with 8th grade spelling skills.
I understand the risk Islam poses to the world. It's at it's heart a vile religion that the US and Europe should play a role in limiting. You can limit it by supporting secular regimes that will kill and jail Moslem fundamentalist. Nations like Britain and France should stop allowing their generally secular nations to be invaded by Moslem immigrants because they are changing the cultural landscapes and are extremely radical. Polls shows many in Moslems in Britain saw the bus bombings as justified. And you had the entire Moslem world ready for WWIII over cartoons.
What I'm saying is rational fear of Islamic fundamentalism is being generalized by Bush's regime to justify war and destruction. We need to limit our fight to the true radicals.
Iran is not a threat. Iran's young people are not fundamentalist. They are overwhelmingly apolitical. And if you study Iran you will find it is on the verge of great grassroots change. The old revolutionary guards influence is waining. The beautiful young Persian woman are starting to openly defy many of the cultural rules set forth by the Islamists. The young men of Iran are becoming downright metro sexual and more concerned with getting their eyebrows plucked than with killing Americans. Any bombing or war with Iran will only give rise to fundamentalism. The best thing we can do in regards to Iran is talk with them and lift the sanctions. We need to get the progressive young people there on our side.
The only reason we are even considering attacking Iran is because of Israel's stranglehold on Washington. People like Holy Joe are not looking out for America, but only their friends in Israel.
Can't remember who it was but someone else this morning also said half of Baghdad was under control. Guess Joe got the white house talking points memo today. Last I heard, less than one third of Baghdad was under control.
Other than Leahy, everything else today was just white noise.
I'm out to the pool with a good book. Have a peaceful Sunday everyone.
At CNN, Zbigniew Brzezinski and Henry Kissinger don't hold a candle to fear.
Seriously, the Zbig-Kissinger "debate" was pathetic, short and worthless. And Toobin even interrupted them to talk about the JFK "scare."
But Chertoff got to tell everyone to be afraid for about 10 minutes.
--WKW
L.A. Confidential @ 47:
Agreed; AND were it not for the fu**** media and it complicity in reporting, then there
would not be soooooo many morons
I think Shock and Awe was just a way of disposing of mass amounts of U.S. ordinance that would have otherwise never been used and would have had to have been dumped into the ocean some where.
Have to give the taxpayers their moneys worth and some bang for the buck. As well as create a need to get the munitions factory's cranking again.
By the end of Clinton's run it was looking damn close that war would become obsolete. War would be basically a containment and enforcement theory.
But of course we wouldn't be in the middle east if there was no oil and we we're going after dates and sand.
L.A. Confidential @ 59:
That or just getting rid of the old inventory so there's justification to buy the shiny new and improved tools of destruction.
Thing Fish @ 61:
Exactly and anything left that didn't get blown up they can just sell to some developing country for extra dough. It's blow out madness day at the Red Stone Arsenal. Everything Must Go!
Twenty bucks says chertoff had a face lift and dyed his eyebrows. No lines around the eyes, nice tan - he just looked weird as hell. Maybe his Skelator nickname was getting to him. Company man to the core. What is really scary is this: name me one person working for bushcheneyrove, with the possible exception of the new Sec. of Defense, who puts loyalty to the Constitution over loyalty to bush.
i love the coffee pictures. i have no explanation for that. at some point on sunday mornings i usually think in my head of the phrase "sunday morning talking head thread" with a delicious looking picture of steaming java and breakfast treat....
i officially have to spend less time online.
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