Tony Snow's Libby Presser: A web of lies
By John Amato Monday Jul 02, 2007 1:17pm
I'm making two video clips because there is so much deceit in everything Snow says that I wanted you to see most of it. What was up with that creepy black background? Was it the cameras or was it staged that way? Look at this...A new SurveyUSA poll says that America wants Scooter in jail...Repeat after me: Obstruction of Justice!
He was spinning so much that smoke was coming from the soles of his feet and the Press Room could barely keep up with him. He earned his money today for the cult of Bush. When he says that they commuted him now before Scooter served any jail time because they didn't want to lose the paperwork---I mean---this is too much. The years being a FOX host paid off in spades for the White House. He even had the audacity to claim that the 250,000 dollar fine was a hardship on poor old Scooter. Fred Thompson helped raise 4 million dollars for Scooter outside his own personal fortune and Matalin had the nerve during the Walter Reed scandal to beg for more money...And you know they will support him the rest of his life.
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Bush and Cheney are laughing at you. They are laughing at the press that was wrapped up in this case from the beginning and they are laughing at the legal system of the country. Some questions were asked about Cheney's involvement in asking Bush to help his pal and Snow said he had no direct knowledge, but someone might have mentioned it. Ed Henry brought up Bush's "I'll fire anyone who leaked anything," regarding Rove, Snow said he wouldn't comment....Another reporter said:
"How can you stand there with a straight face and say this isn't a political act? What he did was inherently political.
Snow said he has the POWER to do it....Please post in the comment section all the falsehoods Snow said in these two clips so we can have a record...I know, it's a monumental task. Every time he opens his mouth he spins and spins and spins...
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who says crime does'nt pay ?
For Libby, all options are on the table.
The background is blue. Am I missing something?
Bullshit.
So Bush announced this via a written statement?
At least Gerald Ford had the guts to show his face on national TV when he did the dirty deed for Nixon.
just a thought, when a person realizes as snow surely must now how imminent death is and for all of us it's just a matter of time, and for some, precious little time, at that point it occurs to me that very little matters other than squaring things up. i surely don't believe that snow actually believes the lies he spins on the administration's behalf. it perplexes me to know that someone would continue with the spinning and lying knowing full well that death is waiting and perhaps it would be best to come clean before going down that path.
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I hope that makes some sense to you, because this administration does not make any sense to me.
Anyone figure out what is going on (yet)? Its called a Police State, no more Republic (we are not a democracy-read the Constitution if you do not know this). Our Dictator has once again given his orders, this is how it will work in the future, only there will be more and more order coming down from the Furor. No court or Congress will question the Furor.
Give up on your Liberal and Conservative B.S. Our government is the Mafia, it is a bunch of gangsters bribing, blackmailing and killing.
Watch your Paris Hilton updates and don't forget to buy that extra six pack for tonight!
Never mind our country is going down (or gone).....Al CIAada gonna get you!
If Bush can get away with this (and I believe he will) it just proves that America is no longer a viable working Democracy.
How can some people be ABOVE the rule of law in a Democracy!
To think that many people in the world once looked up to your institutions, something rank and unhealthy festers in Denmark.
Sorry, I can't bear to watch.
I wanna have Tony Snow and Dana Perrino's love child.
Kid oughtta ace the verbal section on their SATs, no problemo.
heheheh.
Please post in the comment section all the falsehoods Snow said in these two clips so we can have a record
well, he refered to bush as th president. that's the first and biggest lie about this administration.
I do feel badly that snow has cancer, however his colostomy bag was overflowing today, judging from the pure and unadulterated shit that was coming out of his mouth.
The man is simply a shill for the cheney/bush presidency - a smooth talking one at that. He can always sell used cars, but unfortunately would give the other salesmen a bad name.
Tony is looking much healthier.
See, there are benefits to selling your soul to the Devil.
emobile @ 5:
Like a REAL MAN.
George Bush is a bed wetting bully who hides behind his Mommy and Daddy.
At least Scooter will not be allowed to obstruct justice again while he is on probation
If I hear one more time that there are questions about "Joe Wilson's veracity", I'm going to go all Cheney on somebody. Is Joe Wilson convicted of obstruction of justice? Am I missing something here?
"If Bush can't complete a sentence, why should Scooter have to?"
Got part of the transcript from ThinkProgress.org.
Snow: “The president spent weeks and weeks consulting with senior members of this White House about the proper way to proceed.”
Yet on June 5th, per ThinkProgress, Dana Perino said that Bush was "not going to intervene." They link to the White House web site and the transcript of the press conference. An excerpt:
MS. PERINO: What I can tell you is how the President reacted today, which is to say that he does feel terrible for them, he thinks they’re going through a lot right now, they’ve been through a lot. But given the fact that the judge has set up a process for appeal and given the way that the President has handled this for the past year or so, he’s not going to intervene.
2003
Libby: I will lie and obstruct only until I get jail time. I will express no remorse, admit nothing, and cover you guys.
Bush: Sounds good.
2007
Libby: I am going to jail tonight, commute or I sing.
Bush: OH shit. Commute commute commute!
"What was up with that creepy black background? Was it the cameras or was it staged that way?"
Golly gee whiz John...if you are starting to read into curtain colors, I got some six year old video tape that I think you will find a lot more interesting when you are willing to give it a second look.
Just remember John, when you have no faith left in your country, you still got your family and friends...
the latest lie from cnn:
"There has been praise [of Bush's action] but also some outrage ..." (emphasis added) - as if to say a few dissenting malcontents are detracting from the presidents heroic stand.]
He needs to quit. It's killing him. Putting himself in this situation serves only to hasten his demise. Bush would NEVER do that for Snow. What a pathetic moron.
:neutral:
I believe the issue with the background was a LACK of Presidential Seal?
“What was up with that creepy black background? Was it the cameras or was it staged that way?”
it was tony's soul on display
i think we may have reached a point where blogs are actually counterproductive. can you think of another reason why your here now typing instead of in the streets? don't think i don't appreciate the power of the blogs, they've done me a world of good. i'm just saying we are way, way, way past time to be physically protesting in the streets.
IMPEACHMENT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is it any wonder that Tony's cancer came back?? Lying your ass off day after day after day
has to be hell on your immune system...
Liberal AND Proud @ 14:
He's got the same Doctor as Cheney, used to work for Mengela's son in Argentina?
They have Tony on the same "eat a live fetus for breakfast and drink a quart of fresh virgin's blood at night" routine that Dick is on....
Paying Attention @ 23:
To be replaced by a Dictatorial Seal...?
Heh.
lack of a presidential seal -- it's the next step in the gradual transformation of govt... they're still drafting the imperial seal
i’m just saying we are way, way, way past time to be physically protesting in the streets.
one can do both. please, join us.
Our loco NBC schmooz outlet did a voice poll yesterday that concurred with the SurveyUSA poll. Here in redneckistan Oklahoma, 60% felt that Libby should not have had his sentence commuted. I'm sure that senaturd Inhofe is outraged by the outrage.
There is a Sunday program here that covers local and state politics called Flashpoint on the same nutwork. Our Democrat mouthpiece, who is a big Hillaryous supporter, came out in favor of a full pardon for Libby. WTF! I'm not saying this 'cause the guy is fat, but he is full of shit. And, as usual, score one more for the elite and a shovel full of dirt for the little guy and the rule of law.
That's just the chemo talking.
Speaking of Thompson...saw him on a re-run of Roseanne this morning...please not another bad actor for president!
jeebus @ 30:
Nope. It's all done. A green dollar sign inside of a white circle set against a red background.
Look, I'm sorry. If we know he's lying, can't we as citizens charge him? Isn't there any law on the books that can let us charge them for making false statements? Isn't there any way to make them accountable to the truth?
Seems to me that Darth Vader's head would make an excellent new logo for this presidency.
"If Bush can't complete a sentence, why should Scooter have to?"
Paying Attention @ 37:
LUUUUKE...I'm the Decider!
Look, I’m sorry. If we know he’s lying, can’t we as citizens charge him?
nope. the president has absolute power to commute or pardon anything.
except impeachment. which is long past due.
I'm thinking a presidential seal design contest is in order.
Liberal AND Proud @ 15:
Ford was a Pussy too, who didn't want his closer personal friend Tricky Dick to suffer the "stigma" of impeachment.
When the United States Citizen decided to "move on in order to heal the Nation," rather than let Justice be done no matter how painful, it showed that it was gullible and soft on Presidential Crime.
No wonder we're dealing with some of the same criminals (Cheney, Rumsfeld, Kissinger, a Bush)
Paying Attention @ 40:
YES!
At least Gerry had the balls to step in front of a microphone. You and I may not LIKE the pardon, but he was a man about it.
This President is quite simply a pathetic, sack of shit. He's a spineless weasel, just like his old man, who had to be propped up by a real MAN, Margaret Thatcher, in order to conduct foreign policy.
This story needs to be spread wide and far. From TPM
I'm so glad that our president spent "weeks and weeks" deciding what to do about this crap. After all, there's absolutely nothing else fucking going on in our country!!
Voices supporting Libby commutation.
'President Bush did the right thing today in commuting the prison term for Scooter Libby. The prison sentence was overly harsh and the punishment did not fit the crime.'
— Houte Minority Whilp Roy Blunt (R-Mo.). [DeLay said of Blunt: "Roy Blunt has done a tremendous job... His leadership is vital to our cause."]
'Scooter Libby did not deserve to go to prison, and I'm glad the president had the courage to do this.'
— Former ambassador Richard Carlson [Father of Tucker Carlson?]
'After evaluating the facts, the president came to a reasonable decision, and I believe the decision was correct.'
— Rudolph W. Giuliani [Facts? What facts?!]
'I am very happy for Scooter Libby. This will allow a good American, who has done a lot for his country, to resume his life.'
— Former Sen. Fred Thompson (R-Tenn.) [Guess that means Fred thinks V.Plame was doing a lot of evil for America.]
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-bush3jul03,0,202378.story?pag...
when someone is so desperate to hide things, you can bet that somehow someway the truth will come out and it will be OUTRAGEOUS. my guess? the dirtiest little secret is that this administration has been spying on reporters. nixon did it. why wouldnt nixon's protege (cheney)?
and also, as a small aside, i LOVE that tony is balancing the right's "outrage" of not giving a FULL pardon against the rest of the country's outrage at the pure audaciousness of the commutation itself.
and who was the guy with the japanese PM question? is he from friggin mars?
Fanon @ 45:
Well, you didn't think that he would let Mrs. Libby make up his mind tooo fast did ya!
Paris Hilton gets time, Libby gets off.
- Democracy ;)
funkyfresh @ 44:
Shouldn't Rita be pardoned? I mean it must be awfully hard on his family... :?
dirk gently @ 31:
you know what?
i will.
i cannot help but feel completely foolish doing it, but i will. and do know why i will?
because you asked me that's why.
that's how i roll.
"From ABC: “Rita had sought a sentence lower than 33 months, based on his physical condition — he has diabetes and other illnesses — his likely vulnerability in prison and his military service in Vietnam and in Operation Desert Storm.”
Victor RITA? That doesn't sound very white to me? And, he was a vet as well?
Then no question HE should get the max sentence?
Bush Special justice is for Rich White Republic Chicken Hawk Thugs like Scooter.
How do we explain this one to our kids?
You're just being compassionate to your Presidential Aide because the sentence was "excessive", right? Sure, that makes lots of sense. Spent a couple of weeks in "serious discussions" with senior White House officials, that were "not political" in nature, but Cheney can't be confirmed to be involved because of...well, you know, "Executive Privilege"...even though Cheney says he's not part of the Executive Branch...
Uh huh. Yeah. Okay.
Is Jesus okay with all this, Mr. President?
Remember:
Marc Rich, the thief who looted Iraq in the 1990s, used to be represented by a lawyer named I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, for a period of about 15 years.
The criminal syndicate that runs the world only uses political parties as a way of dividing and conquering. Elections are a game for them. Clinton, Bush - birds of a feather.
JJ @ 49:
It's only fair. Paris got off first.
Tony Snow has no colon. He poops into a bag taped to his abdomen.
His cancer is now in his liver. He's dying.
If I were in his condition, I would want to tell the truth. He's gone the other way. Maybe lies comfort him.
What a cadre of complete CRIMINALS. It's like the mob moved into the White House
oh my god.
i just got to the part where tony made fun of the fact that someone should apologize for the leaks. "I'll apologize... [next!]" This whole administration needs a figurative kick in the mouth from the American people. Time for impeachment. Where is the outrage? Thomas Jefferson thought the best government is the government that fears the people. This government does not fear us. They (LITERALLY) laugh at us.
IMPEACH!
NOW!
Picture of Bush with title "Show of resolve"
Look at that face! Does that look like resolve to anybody? What I see is cowardice, powerlessness, spinelessness, timidity, weakness, and any other antonym of 'character'.
Tony Snow1 Wow! What a bushitter! When I stay out too late Im going to hire him to explain it to my wife.
Hey, is Tony's nose growing as he speaks?
How will big balls Harry Reid react? With action? No, he will get after the macrame afghan while rocking away at his Nevada mountain retreat listening to old John Denver albums.
How will the tiger lady Nancy Pelosi react? With action? No, she will goto to a SoCal plastic surgery retreat to get a face lift/nose job freshen-up while watching The First Wives Club or any Diane Keaton movie.
This action will go unpunished because the current democratic leadership are a sickening gaggle of feckless pussies.
It's funny that when pinned to the wall about why Libby deserved, in this case, not even one day in jail for his crimes while others who have perjured themselves (3,000 total) are doing time, Snow repeated the spin, "I'm not going to get into the nature of the deliberations." In other words, he won't tell us WHY, in this case, the perjuror was given a "get out of jail free card", under the premise that the "deliberations" are to be kept confidential.
Of course, it figures with an administration as secretive as this Bush regime that they would take that tact. However, let me clarify what Snow is reallly saying. It's not that they WILL NOT tell us why Libby gets off due to "nature of deliberations". Rather, they CANNOT tell us why due to the nature of the COVER-UP!
Snow is an accessory to a massive cover-up, and he knows it. Everyone is running "screen plays" for Bush and Cheney, obfuscasting and keeping us away from the TRUTH. Will justice EVER be served to this administration??
For the life of me I can't figure out why the entire press corps doesn't walk out of the room when this shithead is insulting them ( and us) with his lies. It really needs to happen: Next time he starts spewing the bullshit, just get up, start laughing and pointing fingers at him and then leave. Follow that up with an apology to the viewers for being subjected, however briefly, to the contempt and insult of being lied to by an administration that holds America and the rule of law in such cynical contempt.
Pan the press room with the camera so that the viewing audience could see that the only remaining "news" outfits are the propaganda outlets.
Fuck you Tony Snow, and a big fuck you, too, to Dictator Bush.
a guy @ 57:
Under what rock have you been living? Moved in? That happened about 70 years ago.
I am officially stealing this and turning it into a bumper sticker.
We are a nation without hope.
Working Dad @ 53:
You say, I'm sorry that my generation was ignorant, disinterested and lazy. I'm sorry we spent our time in mindless consumption, pursuit of self centered interest and showed total disregard for the greater community of our country. I'm sorry that we sold out your futures to shackle you with unending war, limitless debt and shattered dreams.
Now, I'll see you later after you're 16 hour shift in the government camp is done."
Orwell's Illegitimate Son @ 54:
And Rich's prosecutor was... Giuliani.
Hey Amato ... Libby is fabulously wealthy. No one needs to support him.
necadawg @ 60:
No. When you get back, he'll be explaining to you why he's WITH your wife.
And you'll buy it! LOLOL!
michael @ 25:
I'm here to avoid working...
“What was up with that creepy black background? Was it the cameras or was it staged that way?”
The blue gun in your monitor is going bad.
Baghdad Bob seemed like the pope compared to this snow dude.
Thing Fish -
Gosh, it's nice to see somebody else is paying attention to history.
Working Dad @ 53:
I'm sorry, Jesus has been deported.
Snow isn't worried about the afterlife. He's following a Prophet of God.
God speaks to Bush and tells him what to do. That puts him on even footing with Moses, Muhammad, Jesus, King David, etc...
Also, since Bush is head of state, he's essentially a Pharoah.
Tony Snow is going to follow Bush in the afterlife and be is lapdog in the next world.
Ok, I gotta get back to drag rocks for Bush's new pyramid.
Going a little off the reservation here, I have to admit that presser made me start laughing. It was so freakin' funny watching the Snowman leap and spin and dance as he tried to avoid getting hit by those questions. I know it was pathetic but in some sort of dark way, it was funny. Or maybe I'm going insane and when you go insane everything is funny. I dunno.
Purjury and obstruction of justice. At least it isn't the president commiting the crimes this time.
Maybe Clinton wouldn't have been impeached if he could have pardoned himself.
Cythraul @ 74:
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I think it was the beard.! ;)
pissed off patricia @ 76:
Yeah, our government is kinda like Your Show of Shows. It's vaudeville without the blackface.
There are untold thousands of Americans wasting valuable years of their lives because of simple drug convictions. Thirty-some years ago the prison population of this country was a few hundred thousand. It's now 2.3 MILLION, but Scooter the traitorous SOB won't be among them.
NO JUSTICE. NO PEACE!
Time to start flooding the newspapers and call shows with demands to abolish the Presidential power to commute or pardon.
PS -- This would be a positive development regardless of presidential party. It would a) disincentivize people from committing crimes in service of Presidents, b) would deter administrations from hanging out to dry those who did serve since the crucified would surely disclose information in self-defence, c) would restore credibility and power to the court process by undoing the ability to turn it into a farce.
soonerryan @ 77:
If Bush got a blowjob from an intern, I wouldn't want him impeached. I'd be AMAZED!!
Jesus got busted for dealing. But it was the late 70s so the he didn't get life in prison. He cleaned up his act and now owns a sheet metal shop.
I haven't seen him in a few years.
They've been laughing, and eye winking at us since Dec 12, 2000.
Word up Tony, a web of lies, tissue thin, means you left the men's room with toilet paper stuck to your shoes again.
Are the Republicans still jealous that Monica hasn't given Bush a BJ?
Get over it.
Random @ 81:
Cut the spin. This is typical "throw out the baby with the bathwater" nonsense.
There is NOTHING WRONG WITH THE POWER OF CLEMENCY. The issue is MISUSE of power.
Weaseldog @ 86:
Bush couldn't get blown with a fistful of fifties.
The MSM really sucks. For months they've been flogging the notion that Libby should be pardoned. They stupidly repeat the patently fallacious argument that "there was no underlying crime." They're moronically reporting this commutation act of blatant corruption as a "compromise" as though there was something to negotiate. And they're dim wittedly reporting that Bush "is taking a lot of heat from Republicans who think he should have pardoned Libby" as though Bush is some sort of rebel, when in reality he's a soulless, dishonest, immoral, corrupt, incompetent, malicious criminal. The MSM is either really lacking in critical skills or is nothing but an apparatus of the party of corruption.
Paying Attention @ 55:
Paris is always getting off, preferably on internet video.
Not certain but think this is the transcript from wh.gov -- http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/07/20070703-6.html
Tomorrow we'll be celebrating our Independence from "the rule of law"!
Have fun! Cheers
"Bush and Cheney are laughing at you. They are laughing at the press that was wrapped up in this case from the beginning and they are laughing at the legal system of the country."
Meanwhile Pelosi instead of putting impeachment on the table is blinking herself into a seizure no doubt. No wonder the American people are ranking congress below Bush's approval rating. The American people elected a Democratic congress to put the breaks on this lawless corrupt regime, not to blink hysterically whenever they say "fuck you" to the American people, our laws and our constitution.
Ya gotta luv it though. They are comparing this to President Clinton lying about a BJ. Bush would have gone to prison for treason if scooter talked. Monica was labled the Fat BJ girl.
To Liberal & Proud, I just listed three things wrong with the power of clemency, which you didn't respond to.
Furthermore, you say it's a misuse of power, but how else is this power to be used? I can barely envision any President using it for anything but getting buddies or henchmen off the prison rolls. Do we really think that one man should have the power to overrule an entire apparatus of courts and appeal processes? Whose judgement is either that accurate or trustworthy?
soonerryan @ 77:
Yeah, I bet Saddam would have liked to pardon himself too.
Saddam tried to argue that he couldn't break the law because he WAS the law.
According to Dana Perino, Bush is the sole enforcer of an Executive Order, therefor he cannot be in violation of the EO concerning classified documents and the National Security Archive.
I guess it's good to be the Dictator?
If you watch the video clip closely Snow gives a clear indication everytime he is lying. His lips move.
I absolutely could not stomach watching past one or two minutes of this but one glaring falsehood is the idiocy about how Libby may not be able to make a decent living after this. In what parallel universe?!!!
So what about that 'transparency' in government that Bush promised us in 2000 and 2001. Oh that's right, 9/11 changed everything.
Here is one way that you can fight back. Support the Wilsons in their civil suit. Help them to get Scooter under oath on the stand. Contribute to the Wilsons civil suit funding, please. Here is the link to their website. Thanks.
http://www.wilsonsupport.org/
The Republic didn't stand or fall on Bush's deicision to commute Libby's sentence. It won't stand or fall on his decision to give him a full pardon. The Republic was trashed in the 2000 election; trashed again in 2004 when the fix was in in Ohio and Florida thanks to vot "caging". The Republic had its head slammed into the mud up to its neck when Bush decided to out a covert operative to get back at her husband.
The State of the Union, amigos, is broken. In time it may put itself back together. But it may already be too late. The world despises us. Our debt is owned by nations that will benefit from our demise. Our infrastructure depends on a fast-depleting enregy source. The basis of our industrial food supply depends on gluten and other "ingredients" produced in China. And almost half of our fellow citizens are so numb and uneducable that they heartily believe to this day that Saddam Hussein plotted the 9/11 attacks in New York and Washington.
The saddest aspect of all this: Scooter Libby, and the rest of the power-and-wealth club he belongs to, will never feel the pinch that affects the rest of us if America continues its slide to the nether world of lowered expectations, and alowered living standard. They will preside over our decline, but won't participate in it.
Random @ 95:
It can be used to commute or pardon in instances where a President thought, as this one did, that a verdict was "excessive". However, as has been pointed out, typically the idea of excessive implies that the convicted has served SOME degree of time, which Scooter Libby did not. Also, most clemency cases do not directly or even indirectly involve a President. It is one of the reasons why the Mark Rich pardon drew so much fire, and why this "commutation" of Libby does also. There is at MINIMUM the perception that the President is doing this to silence Libby in a case where either his or the VP's office may be directly implicated. THAT is misuse of power.
The power itself is not bad. In fact, it is good.
Hypocisy is alive and well in the (R) candidates. We cannot afford another bush in the WH.
Rudy Giuliani, who brags of being tough on crime, prosecuted perjury cases as a lawyer and wanted mandatory sentences on people who commit perjury. But yesterday he went out of his way to support Scooter Libby, saying "I believe the decision was correct."
Mitt Romney never granted a pardon, even for the most trivial offense. But when asked if he would consider pardoning Scooter Libby, Mitt Romney said "It's worth looking at that. I will study it very closely if I'm lucky enough to be president. And I'd keep that option open." Yesterday he blamed the prosecutor and completely ignored the jury, saying that "the prosecutor knew that there had not been a crime committed."
Well we now know for sure that Bush does not dare about his country, the law, or even his own party. All that matters now is his cabal in the white house and their grip on power and money.
For those of you calling for impeachment, let this be a lesson to you.
Here's how it goes:
1) Bush pardons entire staff/Cabinet (Cheney included)
2) Bush resigns
3) Cheney pardons Bush
Game Over.
When you can figure out a way around that little tap-dance, let me know.
I don't know if anyone has already suggested this, but since Libby is on probation for two years, wouldn't this be a good time to have him come in for another chat with the grand jury? He'd have to come clean this time, or face another perjury and obstruction charge which would blow his probation.
Or is there some arcane legal reason why this can't happen.
Janet @ 103:
Maybe he should have examined the laws of his own State, before he strapped his dog to the top of his car.
Ruthless People @ 93:
The president has the power to do this given to him by the constitution. I'm tired of all the democrats complaining when the are just as bad. The Clinton's should have no comment on this issue. Can we as a country pledge to not elect any more Clinton's or Bush's to any office?
Snow: "I think if you took a look at the trial record, at what the parole commission recommended, that what the parole commission recommended was highly consistent with what the President thought was an appropriate punishment here."
O.K. How about what the judge recommended? Anybody have a link to this parole commission report?
Snow: "You have obstruction of justice, and then you have mitigating factors that bumps it down."
What mitigating factors?
in the end *straps on positivism helmet* i think the commutation, the coverage, and the spin only helps to speed up the demise of the GOP/conservative/reaganite/neocon cabal. like a royal bloodline that has inbred itself to the point of genetic mutation, the cabal is looking weaker and more pathetic daily. of course, i never underestimate the ability of the dems to eff everything up, it is truly their's to loose now in 08 and for a stretch past that.
i have followed the libby case since almost day one--not that i consider myself an expert--and despite my deep loathing of libby and cheney and russert and miller, etc. i am not surprised nor distraught the bush put one of his enablers above the law. not surprised at all.
i say, hang this around freddy thomspson's waddle-like neck. let the faux-good ole boy (see: lobbiest, hollywood actor, and faux red neck) explain just why perjury, false statements, and obstruction of justice is ok in his book. this should be like shooting fish in a barrel--that is if they would keep the likes of shrum, carville, begala, and all the other paid operatives out of this (and everything else).
Turk Meister @ 99:
All the citizens of this country lives are now transparent to an opaque government.
Checkmate!
The disconnect occurs when TS says that Libby won't be able to earn a living after this. WTF? He's the wealthiest member of this administration by far. I guess Snow figured that would go unnoticed. He obviously knows these guys because there wasn't even a murmur from them.
This was very hard to watch. I didn't make it to the second part.
The lies and abuses are so blatant, it no longer makes sense to even engage the likes of Snow in debate. The only principled response to Snow's smarmy, self-serving rationalizations would have been for the reporters to stand and walk out of the room.
Mika Brzezinski, the MSNBC newsreader who refused to read the story of Paris Hilton's departure from jail, had it right. At some point, which we have now passed, it becomes unethical for journalists to report political propaganda and tabloid trivialities.
Snow: "I'm sure that the Vice President may have expressed an opinion, but the fact is, the President understands the -- and he may have recused himself; I honestly don't know."
V.P. may have recused himself. After the Conyers and Nadler letter Cheney better be able to show that he did recuse himself from the matter.
John Doheny @ 106:
Actually, it's the other way around. If he changes his statement now, he could face new perjury charges. But he has no incentive to cooperate or provide any new information, anyway. If he had spent a few night in prison, they could offer him early release in exchange for giving up his (former) boss or Rove, etc. But there's nothing to offer him in exchange, now.
Clinton did it too...
Not all perjury cases are the same...
Tony Snowjob
Do something about it. Support Valerie and Joe Wilson in their civil suit, so that they can get Scooter under Oath on the stand. Here is the link to the Wilson's website.
http://www.wilsonsupport.org/
Around 11:22a ET Snow{job} says that Libby's case did indeed receive "special favor" and "special handling".
You or I would get "special nothing" as evidenced earlier. When questioned about the 3000+ who are asking for commutation right now, Snow{job} is dumbfounded by the numbers. Obviously this administration isn't concerned with anyone but themselves.
soonerryan @ 108:
Constitutionally, presidents have the power to pardon and reprieve, not commute.
I had to go pick up new glasses this afternoon, which just happened to be by my representative's office. I was planning to go in there, but as I stood outside, I realized that I was so enraged and my head was pounding so much that I would have been completely inarticulate--and maybe even arrested.
Ruthless People @ 93:
Yeah, Pelosi and the other AIPAC Dems are just the Good Cops from the Good Cop/Bad Cop routine.
First it was wait until the November elections. Then wait until January for the new Dems to take office.
Then Impeachment is taken off the table and now we're being told to wait until the November elections ('08).
WTF?
Impeach and Incarcerate NOW!
Thing Fish @ 115:
I'm sure the shredder was on all nite.
Paying Attention @ 23:
Yeah, wonder what's up with that? When you mentioned it, I went back over C&L's previous clips of Snow's pressers, and each one of them had the Seal behind him? Maybe it was sent away for cleaning from all the bullshit being spread around?
Bush and Cheney aren't just laughing at the legal system and the Constitution. They're urinating all over it.
Funny thing is when they urinate, they both need to sit down (ZING)
Why shouldn't Bush and the rest of the Republican criminal cartel do what they want, when they want, how they want? Who's gonna do anything about it? The Democrats? The MSM? The American people? None can or won't do jack shit and the Republican crooks know this. They have little to fear as far as real consequences go and have no shame about what anyone thinks of them.
Looking from the outside in, this is better than fiction. What's it like to be a victim, bound and gagged, and repeatedly dry-humped by people who are supposed to do right by you? Not only is the Republican leadership doing the fucking, but Bush apologists are cheering, Democrat leaders are standing by watching and making benign comments, and if you, the poor victim fights back you'll likely get your violated ass tossed in jail.
America is a cesspool.
dirk gently @ 39:
I'm talking about Tony Snow lying his ass off. Isn't it illegal for a representative of the White House to make false statements?
Unbelievable. How does one acquire the skill set that enabled Tony to pull off that kind of performance? Without breaking down, with barely a pause to breathe. I've never seen anything like it.
This man truly deserves his job. Sadly, his job should be drowned in a tub full of crude oil.
Crooks being ridiculous ONCE again.
Remember Snow fatuously saying that "the troops can train in the desert" when Army units were having their training periods curtailed so they could be sent to Iraq as part of the surge? A few days after his comment, a young new soldier was killed in Iraq by friendly fire--perhaps more training would have prevented his death. It made Snow's comments seem cold and callous and contrasted with the positive outpouring of sympathyfor him from all corners when the news of his cancer was announced. His mendacity and callous regard for the serving military should be remembered when he has to return for further treatment. He doesn't deserve sympathy. Period.
Weaseldog @ 117:
Of course Clinton, unlike Libby, was not convicted. You won't hear the 24-percenters acknowledging that though.
MR. SNOW: "Again, I'm not -- this is -- number one, I believe the investigation found that the White House was not the source of the breach. Number two, the President has said that it is --"
WTF?! The investigation wasn't able to prove either way because Libby threw 'sand' into Fitzgerald's eyes with his lies and obstruction!
equilibrio @ 122:
A) based on what charge?
B) Say hello to president Cheney!!!
What would happen if Democrats don't win in '08? They will be throwing themselves of tall buildings.
PaulW @ 127:
Are you calling the White House...liars?!?! How dare you! These are impeccable men of honor...its not like any of em ever shot a guy in the...uuuuh....well...they are men of great integrity...it's not like they ever misrepresented the country to start a....ohhh...uhhh...hmmmm...
Liberal AND Proud @ 48:
"Mrs.Libby" yeah, that's it "Mrs. Libby"
Rule of LawThe courts found Scooter guilty of perjury and sentenced him.
The courts have spoken. This is all we need to know.
Bush overturned this
What utter slime.
Q: "Tony, I want to go back to the issue of an apology, and I want to stay issue-focused and not blaming. Are there -- is the American people owed some kind of apology from someone in this administration for the leaking of a CIA person's name, personnel's name?"
SNOW: "Yes, it's improper to be leaking those names."
Q: "You say it's improper, so you're saying someone in this administration owes the American public an apology?"
SNOW: "I'll apologize. All done."
All done.... Yes America. We're done.
equilibrio @ 122:
I just want to point out that, as 2nd in line to the presidency, Nancy Pelosi is politically, and ethically, prohibited from advocating impeachment. Should the course of events come to pass that she should be called upon to take her place in the Oval Office, she cannot be perceived as doing so with anything but the greatest reluctance, and motivated only by the fact that it is her Constitutional duty, to avoid even the remotest appearance of any sort of coup against the previous administration. It's just common sense.
Thing Fish @ 137:
What patronizing bullshit.
Time to jump to the dark side. Lets get organized and make boatloads of money. That way, we'll never go to jail.
What a Country! Scooter lies under oath and get's a fine, Paris drove illegally and get's jailtime.
I thought I saw Tony Snow's nose grow a little. Corrupt to the core, just like Joe Wilson said.
Our Govt. is broken!!! What country in their right mind would want our system after this group of fucking nit wits. If I were an Iraqi I would have to say take your shitty system and get the fuck out.
Maybe Iraq will liberate us!!!
We live in bizzaro world and unfortunately most people act like sheep which is what they want. Go to work, make babies, buy duct tape and don't sweat the big things let us take care of that. YEA RIGHT!
Snow is wearing out - he'll be pushin daisies up b4 2009.
If I was the next president...my very first day, I would have half of this administration shipped off to the Hague for trial via a turkish prison and you would never hear from any of them again. They have no respect for the law, why should the next president?
C&L should retract their condolences they offered Snow for his ass cancer.
RJB @ 26:
Then we need to impeach Clinton for the over 400 PARDONS he did at the end of his Presidency....read the U.S. Constitution and you will be enlightened, this is a policy for the President to have at the end of his term in office to pardon or commute ANYONE he sees fit to do. It's always better to enlighten before you make a statement based totally on emotion. Have a nice day!
Thing Fish @ 137:
Wait a minute...Snow's a member of the Administration?! He sure claims to know nothing about the Administration and it's thoughts or actions often enough!
steelnpearls @ 146:
Try following your own advice.
steelnpearls @ 146:
I can't get this comment thing down. I always end up in italics when I quote someone.
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