Another Republican who can't keep his zipper zipped
By Steve Benen Monday Jul 09, 2007 7:13amUnder normal circumstances, I wouldn’t much care what Sen. David Vitter (R-La.) does in his personal life. What he does in his bedroom is his business.
But these aren’t quite normal circumstances.
Sen. David Vitter (R-La.) apologized last night after his telephone number appeared in the phone records of the woman dubbed the “D.C. Madam,” making him the first member of Congress to become ensnared in the high-profile case.
The statement containing Vitter’s apology said his telephone number was included on phone records of Pamela Martin and Associates dating from before he ran for the Senate in 2004.
It didn’t take too long for Vitter to fess up. “This was a very serious sin in my past for which I am, of course, completely responsible,” Vitter said in a statement. “Several years ago, I asked for and received forgiveness from God and my wife in confession and marriage counseling.”
The reason this is noteworthy has very little to do with a powerful politician carrying on extra-marital affairs, and everything to do with Vitter holding himself out as a virtuous family man, entitled to lecture those he deems immoral about “family values.”
Stupidity is one thing; hypocrisy is another. The prior is easy to forgive; the latter tends to breed resentment.
Here’s Vitter, for example, on the “sanctity of marriage” in 2004:
“This is a real outrage. The Hollywood left is redefining the most basic institution in human history, and our two U.S. Senators won’t do anything about it.
We need a U.S. Senator who will stand up for Louisiana values, not Massachusetts’s values. I am the only Senate Candidate to coauthor the Federal Marriage Amendment; the only one fighting for its passage. I am the only candidate proposing changes to the senate rules to stop liberal obstructionists from preventing an up or down vote on issues like this, judges, energy, and on and on.” stated David Vitter.
In 2006, Vitter told reporters that “the existence or non-existence of a stable, loving, two-parent household” is the most significant predictor of success in life, and conceded that infidelity contributes to the breakdown of traditional families.
This is what makes the revelations interesting. Vitter shamelessly got on his high horse, condemning those he deemed morally inferior, despite engaging in the same “anti-family” behavior he claimed to abhor. And in the process, he lied, repeatedly, to the public about his own failings.
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fristed!
I still wonder who else is on that list. Didn't something happen last week that would make it more public?
I hope the point here is hypocrisy... and not finger wagging at people's weakness to sexual desire.
I suppose I should just read the article. Google is my friend today. :)
Hopefully the site's server isn't overloaded.
Yes something did happen to the list. It got posted. Here's a link:
http://www.deborahjeanepalfrey.com/Jeane10c.html
What? The "DC" Madame had his number BEFORE 2004? BEFORE he ran? What was he doing just pre-living in DC? Just catching a "vibe" for the city? Really? Wow. Okay. Who's next? I don't think this story is over.
AConfederacyofDunces @ 3:
I usually wag something else for sexual desire, but some people have a thing for fingers.
Years ago, when asked if she would be as forgiving to her husband if he was caught with another woman as Hillary was to Bill, Vitter's wife said her reaction would be more like Lorena Bobbitt's.
We can only hope she follows through on her promise.
I remember all too well what happened in the 1980's with the Televangelist scandals. The TV preachers who were caught with their 'members' in the nookie jar did the same thing, tearfully berating themselves and later were back to the same old hypocritical tricks...and influencing equally hypocritical politicians. This won't be any different.
If a Democrat made the same statement the reich-wingers would claim they were being insincere.
I notice he didn't 'fess up until he had little choice.
I hope the D.C. Madame also releases information like what kind of services her clients sought. Was Vitter a backdoor man, for example. I want all of the sordid details discussed in every newspaper in the country.
Rub the base's nose in it.
Kurt @ 5:
I tried looking it up, and it said it was unavailable due to capacity problems. A giant internet rubbernecking! LOL!!
i bet larry flynt can get all those sordid little details we're all wondering about.
Of course the yokels will 'forgive' him and vote for him again...stupidity, hypocrisy....actually both...
Kurt @ 5:
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He didn't fess up. He got ratted out.
I wouldn't know how to begin digging through the numbers, but I hope someone hires a staff to do so.
How does this phoney godbot know that god "forgave" him?
Is he hearing things from above like the chimp? I hope invading Iran wasn't part of his hallucination.
But I thought Republicans were members of the "values Party."
It's the Scooter rule, aka IOYIYAR: Hey, when we do it, its just a minor indescretion that does not merit punishment. The bigger question is, did he wear a condom? Surely that's the unforgiveable sin for Republicans - isn't it?
As a proud resident of southeast Louisiana, I want to make a couple of points clear and then say something:
1. I think prostitution in and of itself should be legal.
2. Homeboy has always been a slick theoconservative, and a smug one at that.
And with that:
BWAAAAHAHAHHAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH
...wait...
HAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAAAAA
Next to be outed:
Ron Paul
lolz!
When you consider all the pressures that go in DC, remember it is hard out there calling a pimp!
Has anyone noticed how quiet the religious right has been lately?
Then why did ABC news hype this story so much and then back away saying there were no "newsworthy" names on the list. I.E. Congressmen, senators, administration officials? With all the talk of the Vitter's name being on the list, I think the bigger story is ABC and Brian Ross covering it up.
Kurt @ 7:
He was a Representative prior to being elected to the Senate. I'm curious.. how does he know he's received God's forgiveness?
http://www.deborahjeanepalfrey.com/
Time to rub these GOP FVCKS FACE IN THE DIRT.
curious michael @ 6:
Woops.. wrong post quoted. This was the one I intended to quote.
You're too kind. Vitter is a piece of shit Pharisee.
HAHHAAH holyer than thou now not so holy at all. These fockers suck! WHen will the american public wake up about these AO'S?
Simon White-Thatch Potentloins @ 12:
Isn't the hypocracy enough? Do we really need to stoop to their level and go into sordid details?
Hey, at least he's a heterosexual republican. That's gotta partially mollify the base.
TIKI AL @ 18:
God always sends His 'Letters of Forgiveness' via certified mail; this way everyone has the proper proof and documentation that confirms His forgiveness.
grimcity @ 21:
Indeed!!
I am a native New Orleanian, and when I heard this last night, I cackled so loudly that I think I scared the neighbors. If we have to deal with Bill Jeffersons sins, then surely they can handle Vitters.
(Eagerly awaiting the dirty details).
Where is the [reich-wing] MSM coverage of this?
You can get away with murder as long as you ask forgiveness from the right people and deity.
If the GOP hadn't made such a big deal out of the consensual sexual encounter of Bill and Monica, this affair wouldn't have even shown up on the radar. I'm not making excuses for Bills infidelity. This was a private picadillo between Bill and his family. If the Republicans didn't think this would come back and bite them in the ass, they are stupider than they look. The GOP never disappoints. I revel in their stupidity. As Nelson would say. HA HA
There is no comparison with Bill and Monica....unless Monica was a prostitute.
"The Hollywood left is redefining the most basic institution in human history"
Of course. If you want to know what a person's demons are, just look at what he preaches against the loudest.
This is why separation of church & state are so damned important.
Since sex is the ultimate evil for the repugs I expect to see a lot of public trials after this. After all, a blow job is an impeachable offense but stealing an election, usurping democratic and civil rights, starting a war for personal gain and oil revenues and killing and displacing millions of people is completely OK.
God always sends His 'Letters of Forgiveness' via certified mail; this way everyone has the proper proof and documentation that confirms His forgiveness.
It's ok. Gord accepts congressional credit cards for this sort of thing. Money fixes everything.
IOKIYAR. It's only if you are a Dem or a plebe that the laws and morals of the land apply.
And what about ABC? Didn't they say there were no noteworthy names on the list? Another mainstream media conglomeration lieing to the people. No wonder no one is watching anymore!
Oh, my wonderful, moral majority senator. Republicans have a worse fidelity record than Mormons. PLEASE cut the holier-than-thou shit out.
I don't think this sort of thing leads to more votes for Dems, but if it keeps more of the "values" voters home on Election Day, it's all good.
Toshman @ 23:
fallwell is dead and pat robertson's forte' is assassination and oil, not forgiveness.
Blue Buddha @ 2:
Yes but the list is just phone numbers, it will take a while to match names to those numbers
I love it when people like this try to legistrate morality:
This from wikipedia:
Same sex marriage views
In June 2006, Vitter came out strongly in favor of amending the U.S. Constitution to ban same sex marriages. He said, "I don't believe there's any issue that's more important than this one ... I think this debate is very healthy, and it's winning a lot of hearts and minds. I think we're going to show real progress."[5]
In October 2005, at a Lafayette Parish Republican Executive Committee luncheon, Vitter compared gay marriage to hurricanes Katrina and Rita, which came through the same geographical areas. Vitter said "It's the crossroads where Katrina meets Rita. I always knew I was against same-sex unions." [6]
DJShay @ 24:
because ABC does what they are instructed to do by the reich wing.
anonymous @ 14:
You can bet Larry has a group going over each number in detail right now.
Steve Benen is the Zelig of bloggers.
Dr. Matt @ 34:
I think they are out looking for a way to blame this on Michael Moore! :lol:
nitehawk @ 50:
It's nice to know that someone knowledgable is on the case! :lol:
ReallyEvilCanine @ 39:
Well gosh, he said he was sorry and he's made things right with his wife and his god. Looks good from here, let's move on. You know that is really all Republicans have to do in a situation like this. Just say Oops, sorry and that removes the act from the record. Remember how quickly they forgave Bill Clinton his sexual sins? Why you seldom here about it these days. One thing you gotta say for the Republicans they are wonderful at letting bygones be bygones.
;)
SWoods @ 43:
I would guess they meant there were no noteworthy Dem names on the list. Therefore, let's all forget about the list...hey, let's talk about Paris Hilton instead!
Seriously, the media knows they can get away with openly lying to everyone now. They are becoming pretty flagrant about it.
legistrate -> *legislate*
bubee @ 48:
Seele^ @ 22:
LOL yeah he's such a wildman at 71:)
"Isn’t the hypocracy enough? Do we really need to stoop to their level and go into sordid details?" ...Craig(30)
OH YES!!! I want to see a video of Vitter on "The Factor" on a bed of bibles uttering YES! YES! while receiving multiple pink pistols up his butt by angry lesbians in pink choir robes with O'Reilly screaming "I told you so!"
What's new?
However, keep reporting these. Out these hypocrite SOBs at every turn.
Now, now... he who is without sin cast the first stone.
We all have moments of weakness where temptation proves to be more powerful than our own human ability to cast it aside. This man deserves our forgiveness and understanding. He deserves a second chance and an opportunity to redeem himself in the eyes of the world.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! FRY this fucking hypocrite! I don't care what he does in his private life... but don't fucking preach to the masses about fidelity and the sanctity of marriage, hold yourself up as teh™ beacon of morality as you wag your finger in our faces and call us heathens!!!
Up YOUR, VITTER! I think it's time for the people of Louisiana to call for this hypocrite's removal from office, for it is obvious that he is unfit for... *ahem*.... service.
Okay, who's next on the list.
Let The Exposing Begin®.
I found this while searching for hypocrisy with Vitters...
http://wonkette.com/politics/unverified-rumors/index.xml
I also found reference to an illegitimate child that everyone seems to know about but no one talks about...
Just a thought: Maybe ABC downplayed the importance of the list because someone from ABC is ON the list.
How did he get "ensnared" in this brothel controversy, was he into bondage?
POP. Your post at 55 was right on. LOL. This is just a part of the stupidity and the thinking of the GOP I was refering to eariler. Love your sense of humor.
Otay @ 56:
Actually they're talking about the diaper astronaut again.
BaScOmBe @ 52:
Yeah, he looks real hot in a red satin bodice with black lace and fishnets.
Laurie @ 44:
I'm assholier than thou.
JohnnyThief @ 38:
Interesting choice of words in your summation.
But, but, but Al Gore son was arrested for possesion of pot!
Them funny Repugs seem to have a but fetish,
And a potty humor.
No one seems to be talking about the truth here:
This is not about cheating on his wife. Prostitution is ILLEGAL.
I can't just say "Yeah, I stole some money from the bank a few years ago. I sinned and asked for forgiveness and got it."
Shouldn't he be prosecuted for this? Equal justice under the law?
Since when did a smugly-worded, hard-to-believe mea culpa get someone out of breaking the law?
And why the hell are none of the media mentioning the law aspect of this? Am I missing something?
I'm glad Vitter's finally being brought down. He's popular with voters, but most republican politicians here even can't stand him for his backstabbing. Anyone paying attention knows Vitter's been a client of many high profile prostitutes.
God I can't stand this guy. I going into scandal fatigue mode though.
This guys a real prick. Wonder what else he's done. You Yank's work hard at getting rid of this wanker cause God aint. Also this Canuck dated a nice girl from Massachusetts for a while. What the hells wrong with "Massachusetts’s values". She was awesome and had a great family.
Maybe the Republiscum shoulda claimed he was "fucking for Jesus".
DNey @ 71:
Well, maybe he used a signing statement -- you know, when he was signing his American Express statement.
Laws. Another quaint concept.
There is a house in New Orleans
http://tinyurl.com/yuokkr
There HAS to be a way that Vitter can blame this on the gays! When the Repugs talk about us ruining the institution of marriage, do you think they mean we are inspiring them to go out and hire prostitutes?
Shame on me for revelling in this man's scandal. I am sure he is properly humbled by this indiscretion. How un-Christ-like.
Bwahahahahahahahaha!
Why am I having flashbacks of Jimmy Swaggert's tear streaked, "I have sinned," speech?
At least Jim Bakker got caught with someone half way decent looking.
Turn up the heat on this loyal Bushie.
Arctic Dude @ 73:
Perhaps "Massachusetts' values" is code for "they have brains, think for themselves, and don't take hypocritical politicians at face value when they talk about marriage"
But of course it's really code for "I can have extramarital affairs, but you gays can't get married as that would ruin my marriage so you're stuck having regular affairs." And no, logic is not a Repub's strong suit.
During an interview with Yeas & Nays last Thursday, Palfrey indicated that she had "every intention" of releasing her records to the public, but the move to post them on her website so quickly was not anticipated by many.
"I have reason to believe the disk - containing a full set of the telephone records for the 13 year operational history of 'Pamela Martin & Associates' - already has been pirated," writes Palfrey. "Despite our very best intentions to maintain control of the information, our efforts seemingly have been for naught. I am concerned about manipulation of the database with false and misleading information. Even though such falsifications can be refuted in time by comparing an altered copy with the original, my attorney, Mr. Sibley and I fear that in the intervening time period, considerable damage can and will be done to the reputations of individual and entities with no connection to the business. Additionally, the overall validity of the records’ contents will be diminished when one false accusation after another begins to manifest. Therefore, to thwart any possible distorted version and to ensure the integrity of the information, the records – in their entirety -- are available for downloading."
Hypocrisy it's more than a GOP trait...its a lifestyle.
So are they going to arrest him like they would the average john on the street? If they do and he is sentenced, can he count on the prez to commute his sentence? Probably not. Man, I bet right about now Mr Vitter wishes he had only lied to the FBI instead of laying with some chick.
" Vitter was among a small group of GOP lawmakers who sought to block an immigration overhaul from advancing last month " Wash Post.
And I was thinking where had I heard/seen his name before. This son of a fucking bitch was front and center rabidly barking ' amnesty ' ' they broke the law ' and the motherfucker alongwith many other Jesus-is-my-savior types denied a long path to citizenship to millions of devout Christians who risked life and limb while crossing the desert to make a living doing back-breaking jobs that no one in this country would touch.
Vitter you'll go to hell. Mark my words you bastard.
Well, I guess the upside is that he wasn't fondling pale young boys.
At least we haven't heard that....yet.
"Hey, at least he’s a heterosexual republican. That’s gotta partially mollify the base."
I don't know...'some people' say it was man on dog with this guy. I'm not saying anything...I'm just saying.
So, breaking one of the Ten Commandments while trying to shove them down everybody else's throats is now a "family value," I suppose.
For any of you trolls that still come to this site to demean anybody who isn't marching in lockstep with the rest of you brownshirts, here's yet another reason why you are the downfall of America, not "liberals" or "secularists".
Now, go back to listening to your drug-addict hero Rush and your chickenhawk warmonger Hannity, where no thinking is required. We don't want what's left of your tiny little minds overheating and melting down. The toxic waste that eminates from them will just make the environment that much worse.
Tee hee! Family Values n' Stuff!
Love it. I wonder how God and his wife expressed their forgiveness.
Arctic Dude @ 73:
The only thing wrong with Massachusetts is having had Mitt "Double Gitmo" Romney for a guv.
Craig @ 30:
Respectfully, I think we do. This guy needs to be exposed to the base in all his perverted glory. If the depths of his depravity aren't revealed, these wingnuts will try to convince themselves it's nothing and move on.
These fundies in the base try to idolize the Republican party. They need to realize that these people who proclaim themselves so righteous are actually the biggest deviants of all. And the only way to maybe wake these people up is to rub their faces in every twisted detail.
Is it the most honorable thing to do? No. Is it necessary? I think so. These deluded citizens have cost us dearly. They need to get in touch with the real world.
Yeah, Yeah it's great to root out Hypocrisy in our leaders but, I think this story is a TOTAL non-story. It speaks more about this country's over-all hypocrisy and juvenile attitude toward sex. If this was another country this would be but a blip on the radar screen of the public. It's the fact that we keep buying into the rhetoric that allows for us to wallow in our glee when someone runs afoul of it that is more of a story to me. Also, I find it more than a bit sad that our elected officials aren't smart enough to use a pay phone as opposed to their own phones..
I think the president should weigh in on this. This is his BASE (well, besides billionaires) fer cryin' out loud!
pine nut @ 93:
The President doesn't speak out on sex...he knows nothing about it. Which is a real change of pace for him, since he really doesn't know much about anything and its not stopped him from speaking before.
This is a little anti-climactic (pardon the pun) after the Ted Haggard thingie, but, hey it IS a Republican Senator. Let the fun begin!
WOW, a politician and a prostitute......probably just comparing notes on the best way to screw people without the guilty conscience.
Its not so much the use of the illegal service, but its the fact that he was stupid enough to get caught. Never use your own phone, use cash, and always do out-calls. What's the problem? .... so i hear. ahem.
nitehawk @ 47:
There may be Dems on that list. Of course, we don't scream family values and stuff but that won't matter to Fox News.
DNey @ 71:
Well, if they're going to ignore the legal aspects of the Scooter Libby conviction and lying to a grand jury, I suppose this will receive similar treatment.
DNey @ 71:
No one seems to be talking about the truth here:
This is not about cheating on his wife. Prostitution is ILLEGAL.
I can’t just say “Yeah, I stole some money from the bank a few years ago. I sinned and asked for forgiveness and got it.”
Shouldn’t he be prosecuted for this? Equal justice under the law?
Since when did a smugly-worded, hard-to-believe mea culpa get someone out of breaking the law?
And why the hell are none of the media mentioning the law aspect of this? Am I missing something?
Making a phone call isn't illegal and that is the only thing proven. Proving that someone actually received service would be pretty hard to prosecute after the fact. Not saying it's right just explaining.
StirFry @ 97:
heh, heh
Well, I'm sure Ted Haggard tried all that but sometimes, when the planets are aligned just so, hypocrisy really does turn around and bite you in the ass.
What's disgusting is these turds just turn around and spew the same religious mantra - they are incapable of looking within and solving their character problems through introspection and difficult, often painful soul-searching - they just keep getting "saved" over and over again, each time they f**k up, and so everything's just fine, the f**k up is fine, let's move on to the next f**k up until we're dead.
Arctic Dude @ 73:
Isn't it a tad redundant to speak of Yanks and wankers in the same sentence?
One of the main "juvenile attitudes toward sex," is juveniles thinking they invented sex.
And rhetoric is specifically the art of effective communications (neutral), not a synonym for propaganda, spin or lies.
Maybe MSNBC would set up a sting and host a program called "To Catch a Religious Conservative" but they only broadcast 24 hours a day.
I never said I invented sex. I don't even know where you got that but, whatever.
Your point about rhetoric vs. propaganda is valid but I don't think it applies to what I was talking about. Just because rhetoric is the art of effective communications does not mean people should buy into it just because. IOW's you and I are talking about totally seperate issues. You're debating semantics, I'm arguing against believing in people/ideas just because its said effectively.
Anti-BabyBoomer(and Coulter) @ 104:
Ageist. And not at all progressive, being against someone because of their birthdate. Bigoted, you might say
That said the phrase was "One of the main “juvenile attitudes toward sex,” is juveniles thinking they invented sex." I don't see where any claimed you said you invented sex.
ysbaddaden does not need the schooling you seem to have on offer.
Has anyone looked @ the link between Rudy and this guy? And why all the republicans around Rudy get investigated and convicted but those around bush are untouchable?
Just makes you wonder more why some things come out.
The bigger story, by far, is that Vitter talks to GOD. Senator Vitter: Since GOD never talked to me, I've been meaning to ask him to run for president. Can you ask GOD to run for president, for me??? Please???
Anyone else have any questions for GOD? We have finally found a channel to ask GOD questions!
This is the biggest news story in history! Not that he's on the DC Madam list...BUT THAT WE FOUND A GUY TO CHANNEL QUESTIONS TO GOD, THROUGH!
No one thinks that's a huge story? Nuthin'?
Why didn't he just play with his pee-pee. Oh, that's right...the church told him he'd go blind.
Hmmm, such a Hobson's choice...blindness...jail....blindness...jail...
The poor man. He must have been wracked with so much torment.
When will the republican party learn? and even more so when will the democratic party take advantage of such hypocrisy? It worries me that although the gop goes through scandal after scandal, they are still able to win elections. The '06 midterms were a good step in the right direction, we simply need to follow through in '08. This hypocrisy really is a pet peeve of mine- one good website/blog to get this of your back is mypetpeeves.com.
I guess talking to GOD happens so often these days (with Republicans), it's no big deal?
So yet another one of these morally superior, holier than thou Republicans had a little fun with the hookers! Given what we've learned about these righties in the past few years, it's very difficult to not form one of two conclusions about any and all Bible-thumping Republicans. Either the guy quoting scripture and telling us how to live is gay or a so-called John.
from Thinkprogress:
Vitter Flashback: Clinton should resign.
Sen. David Vitter (R-LA) first got his start in Congress after replacing former Rep. Bob Livingston (R-LA), who “abruptly resigned after disclosures of numerous affairs” in 1998. At the time, Vitter argued that an extramarital affair was grounds for resignation:
“I think Livingston’s stepping down makes a very powerful argument that Clinton should resign as well and move beyond this mess,” he said. [Atlanta Journal and Constitution, 12/20/98]
Liberal AND Proud @ 108:
Heh. Maybe he can call on someone to help him with his discipline. He HAS been a naughty naughty boy. Punishment can be its own reward...I've heard that anyway
;)
Anti-BabyBoomer(and Coulter) @ 100:
He should have just gone to Vegas. ;)
miss_kitty @ 113:
And YOU are such a bad girl! LOL! Don't get me started!
miss_kitty @ 105:
WHATEVER.. I'm not progressive? Why because you said so? That's pretty, well hypocritical on your part but, I guess what's good for the goose is... Huh? Something you should try to understand, anti-babyboomer is an internet handle and nothing more. I have a right to choose my internet handles no matter how much it hurts your little feelings. Can I offer you a hug?
ysbaddaden is a big boy, I'm sure he doesn't need the defense you're offering either. He's the one that mentioned juveniles thinking they invented sex, when that wasn't even a part of the conversation, nor did it have any purpose other than a personal attack based on my web handle. Which says a couple of things to me:
1. That some progressives only want THEIR kind of progressiveness
2. That both of you are probably boomers who cannot fathom how one's internet handle and one's true life deeds and actions can be different. And THAT fact is exaclty why I chose the "Anti-Babyboomer(and Coulter) handle.
miss_kitty @ 113:
I think the only problem with the solution mentioned above is that one cannot be flogged with a leather whip by a black patent leather-clad dominatrix.
Black leather studded glove mighta been the ticket?
;)
To: Fascist States of America
When they finally post the list of phone numbers, did you know you can type an area code and phone number into google and it will give you the name that goes with it. They provide the home address as well!!!
I just LOVE living in the 21st Century and the age of technology!!
I just HATE hypocrisy.
The Senator received forgiveness from GOD! We know because the senator told us so. So if you are going to use this against him, or make fun of him, you are going against GOD's will!
Now who was that TV "journalist" that was saying 'there are no people of note on the list' again?
Remember that? He went from 'this is a bombshell!' to 'don't look over here!' in a single day. Older guy.
Anti-BabyBoomer(and Coulter) @ 116:
I can't wait til you 're 50. I'm called miss_kitty. Do you think I live my life as a cat? Does what clause two say in your screed against older people mean you are pro baby boomers and Ann Coulter? For someone who wants to come here and tell the OAPs what it's all about, you seem to have not found a method of communication that isn't abrasive.
And I deduce you are not progressive through your words on this board. You've pretty much laid it all out for us to see.
"WHATEVER" seems to be a big part of your vocabulary. and yes ys IS a big boy and I wasn't so much defending him (Re-read my post) as I was informing you. Read for understanding, pal.
:roll:
I was a resident of Louisiana, left at the end of 2006. During that time, David Vitter was my Senator, and was supported by tax dollars. He then took those tax dollars and spent them on hookers. I called Vitters office in DC, but no one answered. I called the local office in Metairie, LA., and told them that Vitter needs to resign and pay back to the public the money he spent, we gave him that money to govern, not to use to cheat on his wife.
Didn't Gawd command Onan to cheat on his wife?
When Onan did a hasty withdrawal, so as not to get his servant pregnant, people have been arguing ever since, whether the Sin of Onan was infidelity, birth control, masturbation, or merely disobeying Gosh's orders.
So all these assholier than thou politicians can claim to be following Gorsh's orders.
Anti-BabyBoomer(and Coulter) @ 92:
It's always a "non-story" when it's a reich-winger. Faux was salivating over Gore's son last week, will they give the same coverage to Vitter?
Funny, the thing that bothers me most about this story is that Pamela Martin is referred to as the D.C. Madam. If Hillary Clinton is elected she'll be referred to as Madam President. Can't we make a new word for a female pimp (la pimpa, or primp (lol)---or just call her a pimp? (and let the name Pamela speak for itself as far as her gender) Sorry for the off-topic, but I can't stand that the same word that is used as a term of respect for a woman is also a word to describe someone who "sets up dates for massages and companionship". (Is that a sin, btw?)
Vitter's wife is quoted as saying that she would cut her husband's sexual organs off if he ever cheated on her.
Wouldn't want to be him right now.
Funny thing, Theodore Roosevelt was considered a "Progressive," even though technically he was a Republican, until he ran as the Bull Moose Candidate.
I prefer Bullwinkle. Was that a clean version of an obscenity?
"The true hypocrite is the one who ceases to perceive his deception, the one who lies with sincerity”.
-Andre Gide
I can't think of what former political leader this quote most applies to. Reading the comments here, I know he couldn't possibly be a Democrat.
I should mention that despite by nom de guerre I can assure you I'm no Welsh Giant.
128 dennis
Sounds like you're accusing yourself of something, although I doubt you're a former politician, since you've never made that claim.
Senator David Vitter caught with a hooker, for a SECOND time
You probably heard about Louisiana Senator and local hardcore rightwinger David Vitter's phone number showing up in the call log of a supposed DC madam yesterday. He admitted (through a spokesman) that he had 'sinned' and had been forgiven by his wife and hoped to be forgiven by Christ. What the articles on this are neglecting to mention is... this is not the first time he has been found out as not the family candidate. Hypocrite Vitter was accused of an extramarital affair in 1999 with a New Orleans prostitute, Wendy Cortez.
LOL!!!!!
Oh yes, despite the rarified quotation, it doesn't disguise the fact that you're using yet another Absurdum Ad Ignoratium argument, and what is truely a fine example of the Absurdam Ad Reductio argument so favored by those would litter their own cages, and then ignore the smell.
It will only be a matter of minutes before the anti-American reich-wingers start blaming Clinton and make Clinton comparisons.
all these repubs have restless dick syndrome but talk about "family values" during campaign ads and talk radio interviews
Too bad God couldn't be reached for comment.... It's been said before, but here is the "X-Files" version:
Mulder: They say when you talk to God it's prayer. But when God talks to you, it's schizophrenia.
pine nut @ 117:
There's also the Spencer's paddle and one that I don't think has a name, but is a paddle with a metal bar inside, and a leather covering. There's also the kind that wrap around to maximize the strike zone.
God must be so busy for forgiving these sinners their hypocritical trespasses every day, She has no time to do anything worthwhile anymore, like rid the earth of scum like darth cheney and dumya bush and all the rest of the neo-con rat bas***ds.
ysbaddaden @ 127:
You may prefer him. But it was the Flying Squirrel that became President!
miss_kitty @ 121:
Diogenes @ 137:
Between the right wingers, priests and evangelicals breaking Commandments three at a time, its no wonder the world is going to hell in a handbag.
I think the Almighty needs to open his mind to the New World Order and outsource the forgiving of smaller sins so he can concentrate on the big stuff.
"Under normal circumstances, I wouldn’t much care what Sen. David Vitter (R-La.) does in his personal life. What he does in his bedroom is his business."
WRONG. What these Haggardist's do in (and out) of their bedroom is very damn well our business. They want to get into our private lives.. dictate how we conduct them? Fine. Then welcome to the kitchen.
Frankly, a lot more muckraking is needed on these creeps, however much the cesspool stinks.
I know, quite well, a lot of atheists, humanists and non-Haggardists. None of them has engaged in sexual acts with prostitutes or "fantasies". Even so, if they did, it's none of my business until they get themselves elected and begin to dictate their views on how I should conduct my own life.
Time for the gloves to come off, folks. Call these hypocritical religious wack jobs what they are and drive them back to their churches and out of our national political life.
Bart Simpson @ 138:
I thought it was this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsMdreK9ys4
Dr. Matt @ 133:
There's plenty of fun in the reich-wingers court : Newt, Rudy, Foley, Haggard, BillO, Limbarf etc....extra-marital affairs, drugs, man-boy action. the Democratic party never said they were the party of family values and virtues.
This is a great way right-wingers have to avoid being held responsible for anything. All they have to do is say they "received forgiveness from God", and now, they're automatically virtuous again, PLUS they get to show off how they're "people of faith"!
Gee, if only we atheists had a way to just be able to claim that we shouldn't be held responsible for past misdeeds... what a scam!
So, does this apply to reich-wing GOPigs?
'You can get away with murder as long as you ask forgiveness from the right people and deity.'
You definitely have to have the right people, even the right deity doesn't work, at last not in George Bush's Texas. Remember, the woman he mocked when she asked for clemency? She too discovered the Lord, and it didn't save her hide.
Vitter Flashback: Clinton should resign.
Sen. David Vitter (R-LA) first got his start in Congress after replacing former Rep. Bob Livingston (R-LA), who “abruptly resigned after disclosures of numerous affairs” in 1998. At the time, Vitter argued that an extramarital affair was grounds for resignation:
"family values" my ass! (falls out of her chair laughing)
(wipes tears of laughter out of eyes and sits back down)
I can not wait to see who else's names are on that list.
Carla Rove perhaps? More "friends" of Mark Foley?
No sympathy, trust, or respect for any of the Congress whores! Throw them all out.
Dr. Matt @ 124:
I think it is a non-story not because he's a reich-winger but because I am not totally sure he is the only person who will be caught up in this. I just hate when we so-called progressives look like the so-called conservatives by being overjoyed at the fact that one of "them" got caught. There is nothing progressive about tit-for-tat, I gotcha politics. Actually, I find it Regressive. We all know Fox, is yellow journalism, we also all know that MANY politicians are hypocrites on both sides of the aisle. I advocate for a shedding of all things idiotic and vitriolic in our politics. That goes for every side.
Of course he'll stay married to his wife cause she's Wendy's Hot & Juicy!!!
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