'What is the White House trying to hide?'
By Steve Benen Wednesday Jul 11, 2007 7:12amSo, what did the Senate Judiciary Committee learn from former White House political director Sara Taylor yesterday? Ostensibly, the hearing was about the Bush gang’s role in the U.S. Attorney purge scandal. Taylor agreed to appear, despite the White House “directing” her not to cooperate, under a dubious claim of executive privilege.
It led to the worst of both worlds. Taylor honored a subpoena (which was good), but honored Bush’s suspect claim to executive privilege (which was bad). She ended up repeatedly telling the senators that she couldn’t remember, couldn’t explain, or couldn’t talk about anything of interest. She invoked Fred Fielding’s name 24 times, and mentioned his letter about privilege 35 times.
But even more annoying, as Slate’s Dahlia Lithwick explained, was that Taylor was selective when it came to what was privileged information. In short, when she liked the question and wanted to answer it, Taylor testified. When she didn’t, she claimed she was forbidden from speaking.
At first this pattern of half-compliance with the subpoena just confuses the senators. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., huffs that “the fact that you are answering some questions but not others weakens the executive privilege claim even further. It shows how specious their claim is.” But later, Ben Cardin, D-Md., and Leahy begin to observe that in fact Taylor’s notion of the executive privilege seems to be that she can testify at length to exonerate friends at the White House, then clam up when she might implicate them. As Leahy growls toward the end of the day, “each time the finger points at you, you hide behind your oath to the president.”
After yesterday’s developments, Pat Leahy asked, “What is the White House trying to hide?” Apparently, quite a bit.
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I can't wait to see what transpires concerning Miers.
This is gonna start getting interesting
Like Sara said: She did her best...to be uncooperative
Though Leahy got her on her "oath to president," I think that was very, very telling. Was it a slip of the tongue or really, really true? It happened in Germany 1934; has it happened here 2007?
The Fuehrer Oath (effective August 2, 1934)
"I swear by almighty God this sacred oath:
I will render unconditional obedience
to the Fuehrer of the German Reich and people, Adolf Hitler,
Supreme Commander of the Wehrmacht,
and, as a brave soldier,
I will be ready at any time
to stake my life for this oath."
Such a beautiful, intelligent young woman. Such empty, soulless eyes.
Kinda difficult to know what they are hiding if it's hidden well. Another question is, why do they try to hide so much? Remember the sentence we heard regarding the NSA wiretaps, If you have nothing to hide you should have nothing to worry about. The white house seems to show they have a lot to worry about as they hide so much. Very telling.
She sincerely seemed surprised when Leahy told her she didn't swear an oath to the president. Either she did, or she thought she did. That in itself is scary.
Jesus, put all of these fucking people in jail!!
DoJ Training Seminar
Alberto Gonzolaes, professor
Gonzales: Repeat after me. I don't recall, I don't remember, I can't explain.
DoJ Staff: I don't recall, I don't remember, I can't explain...
Gonzales: You all passed!
Most times when somone says they don't recall, they do.
This is getting BOOOOOORING.... Looks like Bush is gonna stay in office till the end. I guess We the American Voters are gonna have to vote out every GOP and Dem incumbent to get rid of the decades of unfettered corruption in Washington. FIRE EVERY INCUMBENT ! ! ! Abolish the Electoral Collage! Multi-party system, NOW ! ! !
How senior is a "political director" post? 'Cos to me, 32 seems a bit young to hold any senior position. But it is in keeping with Bush policy - bright-eyed, bushy-tailed, wet-behind-the-ears, and fanatically partisan.
There is a story in the Wash Post today that says bush was told by the head of the CIA in Nov of last year that there was no way in hell the Iraqi govt could ever function well enough to sustain, protect and defend itself. Since that time over seven hundred of our soldiers have been killed over there. Guess they were trying to hide that too.
"...oath to the President?"
Since when do public servants swear oaths to temporal personages rather than to the country?
German soldiers used to have to swear an oath, not only to God and country, but a certain head of government. Look it up.
I think they'll get even less out of Harriet. She's too clueless to know what testimony would appear to exonerate Bush, so she'll be more likely to clam up under any questioning. That might explain why Bush doesn't want her saying anything under oath -- she's too dimwitted to play the game.
I watched this fiasco last night on CSPAN, she was a Repug shill no matter what she claims.
And her refusal to answer many of the questions just showed how implicated the WH was in the scandal.
If the Senators are on their toes, and I think they were yesterday, they will see that they did get their answers to the tough questions.
When she claimed privilege, she was answering in the affirmative.
As for the beautiful women comment above, there is nothing beautiful about a Rove political operative.
Nothing.
boy are you guys going to look silly in 15 years' time when history judges Bush as the greatest president to have walked the earth.
J R @ 9:
Agreed, they all must go at this point.
It's better to assume they're hiding EVERYTHING, because NOTHING, NOTHING they've done since Day One has had the ring of truth to it.
Eamon @ 15:
Not gonna happen.
But you look retarded right now if that's any consolation.
Taylor's smart enough to avoid being jailed. Honoring the subpeona at least gives her cover from contempt charges, because she can say she showed up.
Miers is even doing that much and looks like Congress isn't going to jail her for that.
Since when can Bush order ex-employees not to do anything? Is that legal?
jebus someone's sarcasm detector is broken
The man/child George W Bush has been protected and coddle his whole life so there is nothing new about these partisans that worship him. Sara Taylor saw working for the Cheney/Bush/Rove cartel as an opportunity, especially for someone so young and lacking experience. If any of the loyal bushaviks goes to trial and are found guilty, we now know for certain that the "decider" will make the ultimate decision and pardon traitors that take the bullet for him. Nothing has changed in boy Bush's 60+ years. He was a spoiled sociopath brat as a child and remains so as a pseudo adult.
Eamon @ 15:
That will NEVER happen. Reagan already has that title!
PopeTodd @ 14:
I thought she looked old and tired, big dark circles under her eyes. Typical Rovian white toast.
Eamon @ 20:
Sorry Eamon, too early. =P
Sara Taylor is a now a private citizen and as such se cannot be forbidden by the president for saying something.
She is no longer a member of his staff
He is now, on record for obstruction and tampering with a witness.
Hello Pelosi -- you gonna do ANYTHING???!!
The longer you wait frau Pelosi the harder it will be for the people of this country to believe in the system.
clytemnestra @ 25:
That should read: "Sara Taylor is a now a private citizen, and as such she cannot be forbidden by the president from saying something or anything."
THe above #25 was my thinking as well. If that is true why did not Leahy simply inform her of that and hold her in contempt if whe didn't answer.... she was under oath was she not?
I think an easier question to answer is what aren't they trying to hide
Now why would anyone be surprised by her testimony? This Administration is built on lies and everytime someone from the Administration opens their mouth, a lie comes out, no matter what the subject. I'd be surprised if one of them actually told the truth. Even when you show them a video of what they previously said, they ignore it and keep on lying. As stated previously, her testimony just proves the White House involvement in all the lies so far. The problem is, the pace at which Congress is moving now will not get to the truth before Bush slinks out of the White House.
What I'd really like to know is, what drugs are they on to keep them in such a euphoric state.
What is the White House trying to hide?
Criminality.
By the way, she is in contempt of Congress and she is guilty of Obstructing Congress. It's entirely necessary that they throw the book at her, or this kind of specious bullshit isn't going to stop.
Eamon @ 15:
Every American fiber of my being prays you are right, thought "my gut feeling" is you are not.
I'm still waiting to hear the origin of executive privilege. Where is it written that it's a tool the president can use?
Send her to the 'Cooler'
"I don't recall" is the state motto of blackshirtia
What does this administration have to hide - anything we let it. Does Congress want to continue with "business as usual" - of course it does. 34,750 registered lobbyists are knocking on our representatives' doors - what has changed? Should we throw out all career politicians in 2008 - of course. That perhaps, is our only faint glimmer of hope in an uphill battle.
GEE WHIZ! WE KNEW THAT NIXON WAS LYING IN THE WATERGATE SCANDAL. HE RESIGNED AND FOR GOOD REASON.
NOW THE BANTY ROOSTER IS LYING AND TRYING HIS DAMNDEST TO COVER IT ALL UP AND BESIDES -- HIS LIES COST HUMAN LIFE!!!
I DON'T THINK THERE IS A REPUBLICAN TODAY THAT UNDERSTANDS "TRUTH" - "HONESTY" - "COMPASSION".
WOE IS ME! I THINK I'LL GO HIBERNATE UNTIL THIS IS ALL OVER.
Bush and Iraq (the Train):
Bought a ticket for a runaway train
Like a madman laughin' at the rain
Little out of touch, little insane
Just easier than dealing with the pain
Runaway train never comin' back
Runaway train tearin' up the track
Runaway train burnin' in my veins
Runaway but it always seems the same .
......"Runaway Train", Soul Asylum
Eamon @ 15:
yes especialy when in 15 yrs from now his actions lead to a complete dictatorship and his cronys make the history books, greatest president he he he , meth is good huh troll
When Leahy admonished her for her allegiance to the President & not the Constitution, Taylor had a look on her face as if she was just caught sucking Satan's cock!
‘What is the White House trying to hide?’
"EVERYTHING"!!
They have ruined America, stolen the government from the people, shredded the Constitution and told the American people to go Fuck themselves.
If your NOT writing letters to both houses of congress and making phone calls to your representatives, then you are also part of the rip off that is happening.
Water board her ass, publicly, that will make her "recall" and set a nice example to the rest of them. When their treason is finally determined, tar and feather, then hang them. They are all sociopathic criminals, worthless as human beings. Its us or them.
Whether intentional, she gave them a road map as to where to focus. Each time she invoked the 'letter' in re a particular question was a flashing light saying look here.
Can she be recalled and forced to testify honestly or by charged with contempt of Congress? Or has she been charged? It seems as if this Congress and Democratic bunch are simply a bunch of hot air. Everytime the administration says no to them they go back under their desks and "regroup". We need to Clone the Feingolds and Waxmans and rid ourselves of the Biddens, Durbans and Levins who simply gas and then turn about face and walk back to lunch.
it's all so screwed. the whole point of investigating the purge is to figure out if the white house is stacking the court system to operate with a partisan bias. however, the AG, supreme court, and everything else that has anything to do with judiciary has already been stacked so no matter what, it's 2 branches against one. you lose. nice job dems. you sat back to pick your fight and now it's unwinable.
Congress, or more accurately, the House, can put a lot of the stonewalling to an end by invoking an allegation of "Inherent Contempt", which, if any of you were listening to Randi Rhodes yesterday, is far more potent than the leveling of "Contempt of Congress" against stubborn W.H. toadies. Inherent Contempt allegations do not get vetted by the Justice Department. With Inherent Contempt, the Sargent at Arms makes the arrest, and the offending person is given an IMMEDIATE TRIAL on the House Floor, and then immediately JAILED if found in contempt.
This process would yield quick and positive results, and it would give Congress a newfound strength and power that they desperately need.
Isn't it time to subpoena Fred Fielding?
Eamon @ 20:
What are you, a traitor to your country? Do you have any respect for your country? We are patriots. Become a patriot and come to the aid of your country.
http://myfightfordemocracy.blogspot.com/2007/07/new-declaration-of-indep...
Da Spyda @ 40:
i couldnt have said it better ,
exit7a @ 34:
The last I time I heard someone call jail the "cooler" was on Hogan's Heroes. SCHULLLLTZ!!!!!
Eamon @ 15:
Yes but that will be president of the third world country he flees to with as much of the evidence he can steal.
This is all playing out as planned. Scandals, both of the criminal and sexual nature, overwhelming and bringing to a halt our governmental processes. Meanwhile, we are being given mixed messages on the spectre of some kind of terror attack coming in the near future. And, our military is not just broken, it's been destroyed. Purposefully, I might add.
The Constitution (which has been rendered moot) used to say that we had to stay vigilant against all enemies, "both foreign and domestic". Well, now that we've been duped into thinking that all of our enemies are foreign, and have thusly sent our armed forces and guardsmen far and wide, we are left defenseless against any domestic enemy.
I read somewhere a few years ago how this would play out, that the US government would lie us into a war against a non-existent threat and, when it came time to really face a genuine enemy, nobody or no other country would believe the US government again.
We're nearing that point.
cnn the most useless name in news
ken melvin @ 43:
Good point, ken. Ideally they'd be able to compel Taylor go into a little more depth in those areas. I'm no legal scholar, but I'm thinking all it would take to get her back under oath is some conflicting testimony from another Bush crony.
Eamon @ 15:
Those crickets you are hearing are not just in your own head . . . make sure you leave your contact information so we can dance the "we were correct" jig in front of you in 15 years.
Even now historians are saying he is the worst president ever.
More comedy side show stage(d) antics. None of this means crap. Sure is effective for keeping the left, middle and right occupied while the 4th riech steps in. Do you think the BuSh administration will bomb us before the end of summer as they are implying? I wonder if that's a threat from the white house to say don't funk with us on all this legal crap or we'll kill more innocent people.. it's also known as blackmail.
Speaking of blackmail do you think any senior Dem. or Rep. can even open their face in dissent? Of course not cause the Dictatorship has the goods on everyone of them. He likes young boys, she is into little boys too.. you know whatever, everyone has some form of dirty laundry (smoked pot, did cocaine.. whatever). It is affective in keeping them all in line and politics today is simply two sides of the same coin. Everyone said the Dem's were going to do jack, but they didn't.. it's simply a sideshow to keep us chasing our tails. Wake UP! It is much much uglier than anyone of us imagine!
Or just keep thinking happy thoughts.. yeah that'll fix everything(NOT).
PopeTodd @ 18:
More like GREATEST FUCKUP.
Sara Taylor:
"I pledge allegiance,
to George W Bush
the Immortal Leader of our race...."
Seele^ @ 58:
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Yeah the 6 percent who are psychopaths. Ever read Political Ponerology? "The Scientific Study of Evil Adjusted for Political Purposes"
http://redpillpress.com/retail/index.php?main_page=product_info&products...
I think the owner of this site aught to check out a copy.
The wh is trying to hide their hides.
That makes chainey Mr Hyde.
Sara Taylor is a kidney stone in the free flow of information.
Balberon @ 59:
You got that right, bush could order the airforce to start bombing cities inside the United States, and the population STILL wouldn't be totally against him.
All of you "jumping on Eamon @ 15" should look again at his #20.....It was
sacasam...just having fun which many, it is apparent, did not get.
Leahy in the Senate, and Conyers in the House, are the Standard-Bearers for a DEATH-MATCH-OF-A-LIFETIME. They, both, are up against the most dangerous assault YET on our Constitution and this Republic.
Jefferson, Hamilton, Washington, Franklin... ALL OF THEM... were students of history and human nature, and they understood EXACTLY how this present-day scenario could develop out of a power-hungry executive branch.
We can only HOPE that their built-in safeguards were adequate up against the soul-less EVIL of Dick Cheney and KKKarl Rove.
Earmon can defend self.
There was an incident back when George Sr. was president that Geoegie blew up because he didn't think someone was loyal enough to his father. It may be that he does have his loyal subjects swear an oath to him.
http://myfightfordemocracy.blogspot.com/2007/07/new-declaration-of-indep...
What are the trying to hide? Shit loads of high crimes and misdemeanors that begun the day the 5 Republican appointed judges on the reich wing supreme court trumped the American democratic process by appointing Bush and Cheney supreme dictators of the land. it will take a generation to sort through all the crimes they have commited once these criminals, liars and war mongers slither out of office in January 2009.
The right of executive privilege is not directly granted to the president in the Constitution. Instead, it has historically been considered to be a right implied by the constitutional principal of separation of powers between the three branches of government.
Historically, presidents have exercised executive privilege in two types of cases: those that involve national security and those that involve executive branch communications. Event though Bush or his attorney have not stated the reasoning behind invoking executive privilege with regards to the US Attorney purging, they must be coming up with a new category. Obviously national security would not fall under the attorney firings. Executive branch communications cannot be the reason either. Sara Taylor testified yesterday that she Bush was not involved in the decisions to fire the attorneys. Att. General Gonzales and Tony Snow have even said as much.
SO... if this is the case, why would Bush be claiming executive privilege on matters where he had no involvement. OR did he?
Leahy is a very pragmatic man, so I will wait to see what he chooses to do at this point. He must charge contempt to at least one of the following Sampson, Goodling, Taylor, Gonzales, and/or Miers because there testimonies are conflicting. They are obstructing justice because each of their testimonies are full of stonewalling and lies. IF they are not held in contempt, it would seem that they are getting special treatment. What makes them more special than Libby? The last time I checked there is still a blind fold on the Lady Justice. Now more so than ever, the Judiciary Committee must adhere to the laws as they are written. They must lead by example no matter what.
I was going to include Bush in the "soul-less evil," above... but I just can't muster enough RESPECT for W.
Did you see the way he waved to the reporters on his "presidential walk for the cameras" yesterday! He actually raised his palm in a little double-loopty-loop... then a wave. Is he that big of an imbicile, or does he have a contract-choreographer at the white house who designs moves like that for him to maintain his public persona as a complete ass-dork?
moonsha @ 67:
Excellent point(s). I have never understood how bush can claim executive privilege
since both he and now Taylor are giving testimony that "he" was not involved in anyway
in the dismissal of the 8 judges. Leahy made that point, as you did, so now let's see if
he follows up as REQUIRED...
VIDEO: God Help Us All If We Don't Impeach Him Fast
RedState Radical @ 68:
I'm not sure who's worse in regards to his asshole fratboy persona/comments -- him for being who he is or the press corpse who still laugh at his act!
What about a massive, pre-organized, net-roots demonstration outside Capitol Hill, to Impeach Bush? I don't know who organizes this sort of stuff, but I can't help but think that if several hundred thousand people (or more) showed up with banners with punchy slogans demanding his impeachment, that even the media would be forced to cover the issue.
If you are connected to the blogosphere, PLEASE, get this movement going! Spread the word, pick a date, and do it!
Here is a video of Sara Taylor refusing to answer questions, and Karl Rove getting called out
http://beta.redlasso.com/Community/ClipPlayer.aspx?i=44385b07-e77a-4b32-...
You are being conditioned to accept dictatorship. It just seems like some weird shit to you, but I can see that your are a boiled frog.
You should never shut-up the truth, even when you don't like what it says.
Doggiebobo @ 63:
i dont see him confirming that!
"Wimps," House GOP leader John Boehner called Republican defectors in the Senate
so, did she take the oath everyone is supposed to take?
you know, the one defending the Constitution?
or did she actually take an oath to George Bush?
maybe both?
with this group of crooks in the WH i wouldn't be surprised.
Seele^ @ 76:
"defectors" being those interested in the truth?
Boner is a total asswipe.
I made a sarcastic comment yesterday, I said:
"I like McCain"
but then I followed up with:
"I like watching McCain run for president, it's like watching the Hindenberg try and land in New Jersey."
tyree @ 75:
Yeah, as someone before you said..."he can defend himself",so I should have kept
my thoughts to myself...Sorry..
I would have said obviously rather then "apparently".
I'm not sure what more we can do. I have written hundreds of letters, signed many petitions and made many phone calls. I refuse to give up and the reason is the first thread on my Homepage. Don't give up. He's counting on us.
Janet @ 83:
Congratulations Janet on becoming a Great Grandmother...and your "Open Letter to
the Media" is well put and excellent.
Is that what Congressional testimony is? You get to answer only the questions you want to answer, but it's OK that your memory goes dim on all the crucial details?
But now she and the White House can and will claim that she willingly went before Congress and answered (some) questions, so what's the problem?
Leahy, Schumer, and all Dems in Congress need to start making a major stink about these ongoing BS tactics from the Bush administration.
Has Miers, as
instructedORDERED by Busholini not shown up today?Doggiebobo @ 84:
Thank you. I can't take the credit for the letter though. xoites wrote it.
Bush is stuttering through his presser right now. You know when he stutters he is talking out of his ass and lying.
What are they trying to hide? That they are incompetant morons. Oops, too late. The secrets out.
Dr. Acula @ 86:
No, they are discussing contempt charges on cspan3 as we speak.
EVERYTHING!!!
Ron @ 90:
Bush is in contempt of congress, CHIMPEACHMENT TIME.
I wish you guys would just call fascists fascists and proceed to trials for the love of god.
Those stupid republicans saying Harriet shouldn't have to come because the Prez wasn't involved. Why the executive bullshit then? Because it isn't true. Bush was involved to his bushy eyebrows.
Watt from N. Carolina setting them straight.
$400,000 down the drain:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=497_1184226217
Eamon @ 20:
:lol: I think a few people missed your #20 post! :lol:
Next time you put blood in the water, make sure it's someone else's. :lol:
It is time for the tough talk from the Judiciary Committee to end in favor of definitive action. I don't know how many more blatant provocations they need to get the message that the White House has said in effect "Stick your investigation in your ass, we are accountable to no one. "
If this committee really values our Constitution and integrity and accountability in government, I will expect the Contempt of Congress proceedings to begin immediately. There is no compromising with these Buscovite fools. Act NOW of the good of our nation.
Below post with Larry from C's permission....
Would you like to see Harriet Miers, Dick Cheney and Karl Rove being led to jail by the Capitol Hill Police and the House’s Sargeant at Arms? Would Friday be good for you?
Two Words: INHERENT CONTEMPT
Inherent Contempt is a little used, little known tool that the House or Senate can use. It requries only a majority…which we should easily have in the House. Under the inherent contempt power, the individual is brought before the House or Senate by the Sergeant-at-Arms, tried at the bar of the body, and can be IMPRISONED. The purpose of the imprisonment may be punitive or coercive, and can be indefinite. The Inherent Contempt power is recognized by the Supreme Court as Constitutional.
Regular Contempt charges simply won’t work. The U.S. attorney is in Bush’s pocket. Most likely he won’t pursue it.
You need to BOMBARD Pelosi and Conyers and tell them to pursue the new “I” word = Inherent Contempt.
This may be our last and final attempt at justice.
Harriet Miers needs to be first. She refuses to even appear to testify today! This is UN-acceptable. Lets try Inherent Contempt on her first. Lets watch her cry as they Capitol Police haul her ass to jail. Let Cheney and Rove watch knowing they’re next.
CALL CALL CALL:
Nancy Pelosi: 1-202-225-0100
Harry Reid: 1-202-224-3542
John Conyers: 1-202-225-5126
Comment by Larry from C — July 12, 2007 @ 9:11 am
Dr. Acula @ 78:
Let's get real here! Those 'defectives' are trying to position themselves for the 2008 elections and nothing more.
No matter what my hopes are, I will not pin them on proven malicious, cannibalistic liars who have a track record of destroying America.
And Certainly Bonehead IS an ASSWIPE! Incontrovertibly so!
Coffins draped with flags @ 98:
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I heard that on Randi Rhodes yesterday. It seems we have elected officials who skipped a few reading lessons. I also heard/read that Boxer is ready to ask Pelosi to put Impeachment on the table.
"Goddamnit, when's somebody gonna go on the record on this story?".
-Jason Robards, Jr. as Ben Bradley in All The Presidents Men.
[Time wasting on Government IP-Sitemonitor]
Steve Benen:
I saw that Slate piece by Dahlia Lithwick piece, and as usual she's spot on.
She had a great piece a couple of days ago about Gonzales being willing to play Beavis and Butthead to further the Unitary Executive.
Disclosure: I'm slightly in love with Lithwick.
er, sorry for typo above
ahhh, you poor ,poor patriots.
Do you honestly think any of this will EVER make a diffrence??
There has been zero accountablility for this administration but Im supposed to believe its about to begin??
Ya mean like "The Surge"??
Its just pathetic , but I think once the Chimp was re-elected ,( giving a stamp of approval effectively for lying our country into the Iraq War), they figured they could do no wrong. That they would never be questioned or challenged.
and its true.
So m he wont be impeached, he wont be censured and he wont leave Iraq.
It aint gonna happen.
Not from that east coast eliteTexan.
OK then, Sens Leahy and Schumer, what CONSEQUENCE and what will you guys DO about this.
Wake me when the words stop and the action happens. We haven't seen any ACTUAL action in 7 years. In the real world corruption like this BUILDS UP to AN EVENT. Hmmm, will it be....an impeachment....nah, that would satisfy what the ENTIRE WORLD is crying out for and PLEADING for.
This is like getting married and never EVER having sex.
The Origins of Barbara Bush. Questions answered....
http://www.milkandcookies.com/link/63684/detail/
WooHoo
During Harriet's non-hearing this morning, Rep. Watt just made a great statement regarding Bush's 'credibility' and "executive privilege"... (imo anyway) implying CYA mode. Of course, Cannon had a hissy fit and wanted Watt's statement stricken from the record, etc... had to vote regarding the striking etc.
that cartoon was sick just sick, hell old lady bushes twat was stolen off a dead elephant! not betsy ross!
Bush could murder his wife on the whitehouse steps and Leahy and Schumer would get really really mad at him. A few days of news.
Oh, swell. Barbara Boxer will have tea with Pelosi, Pelosi will touch an index finger on Boxer's forehead, and Boxer will leave with no memory of why she came.
Hey, check it out -- Ramsey Clark (former Attorney General) is helping to spearhead an impeachment march on Sept. 15th. Every single person on this site who rants about Bush should get to Washington that day, or forever hold your peace.
http://www.impeachbush.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=5197
Random @ 112:
Are you buying my ticket? No? Sorry, I can't go then. And I WILL NOT forever hold my peace. Thanks for your suggestion though. The "STFU if you don't go to DC" sucks though. Really. Sucks.
Random, there was a huge impeachment effort across the nation in April of this year. It is now almost mid-july. Although anyone who can ought to take part (orange bandanas everyone) ,
the only thing that will work is a national strike against the gov't on the level of work, taxes, total non-cooperation. Not for just one charming day either.
Senator Leahy:
Sarah Taylor-Contempt of Congress
You have a responsibility to use it.....Make it happen.....dammit!
Yeah, rallies, letters, emails, phone calls, smoke signals - they've worked well in the past. There's no reason to think they won't in the present or future.
Memo to those who post here: over 50% of Americans either don't know or don't care about this, and won't listen to or believe what you tell them. They're fat and think they're happy, so that's all they care about.
Game over. The Elite has won.
I wonder if David Copperfield could make the WH disappear?
If he's busy, Doug Henning will do in a pinch.
Orwell,
"Game over the elite has won"
So it's die without a fight? Everything starts with a One. Guess the pain and suffering will have to reach the other half, and it will. We can count on the gov't to provide that scenario for us.
Question Authority
Answer: "I don't recall."
Subpoenas for Bush.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ryvq__SRniM
If ya need a good laugh check out this liitle vid.
Run time is only 18 seconds.
There is a charge that can be filed against this type of behavior. Obstruction of justice.
A whole Congress of lawyers enabling these fascists.
Eamon @ 15:
Did you eat an extra bowl of stupid today in addition to that giant glass of Kool-aid you happily guzzled down?
"What is the White House trying to hide?", Mr. Leahy?
There's a simple answer for that:
EVERYTHING.
The Champ is out.
BaScOmBe @ 100:
If impeachment is not filed against this Administration, whether or not it passes does not matter, then the Congress will NEVER regain the power it has lost to the Presidency. It will be the END OF DEMOCRACY as we know it. It will truly be THE END OF SEPARATION OF POWERS, it will be the END OF THE CONSTITUTION.
Can you imagine the wailing from the usual suspect pundits if a former aide to e Democratic President had pulled that crap before a committee of Congress? The world would be coming to an end. They would be claiming a constitutional crisis every 2 minutes.
By defying (or in this case, only partially complying with) Congressional subpoena's, obstructing justice by commuting Scooter Libby's prison sentence, using signing statements to ignore laws passed by Congress and corrupting the DoJ to ensure no aministration member will ever be charged and prsecuted for contempt of Congress, Bush and Cheney have thrown down the gaunlet, leaving a stark choice: "Impeach us or eat it and smile, bitch."
There is only one antidote for the conprehensive, persistent, defiant malfeasance of Bush and Cheney. It is the antidote crafted specifically for this sort of crisis by our founding fathers - Impeachment. The true choice before us is whether we are willing to use this instrument of last resort or would rather surrender our democracy and mekely "eat it and smile."
Bush will be judged the best president to have walked the earth??? I think that we might need to have online drug testing for some of the people who comment here. If not drug testing, maybe mental status evaluations should be administered. Sara Taylor could make her testimony into a song about the letter that she has in her hand that protects her from ever telling any truths. These people lie and lie! We want our government back now! Why should any executive brancher ever have to tell the representatives elected by the people anything that is true? We, the people,are cannon fodder. We only are useful when the ruling class cannot make money off a venture and/or it is dangerous. The ruling class makes money from managing and supplying a war but not from actually fighting in the battles of the war. On a cattier note, I don't think that Sara looks so young, so beautiful, or so well-dressed.
It is a good thing this is going too play out in the courts, since it will take time, giving time for Bush/Cheney too be out of office where they have no ability too pardon their co-conspirators in crime, we can all take a safe bet a democratic president would not on his first term even consider pardoning a republican scoundrel..., the fact these underlings are "taking the proverbial 5th", is like the mafia dons did during their congressional investigations, only difference is these republican scoundrels/criminals think they have a "free get out of jail card" by their master being able too pardon them, but with him out of office he has no ability too pardon any crime without the crime being charged..., so the fact these minions are stone walling is good for democracy, justice since if and when they are forced too tesitify they have no out of jail card, and will regret and rue the day they joined in this criminal conspiracy thinking they were above the law...and a great irony would be a out of office president/vice president would also have no leverage too keep co-conspirators from singing like the proverbial canary too save their own hides..
RH @ 128:
Once they're gone, what little incentive the Dems have to hold them accountable will be gone with them. Sorry.
caye @ 3:
Well, my previous comment has been deleted without notice so I'll repost some questions I think Leahy should have followed up with:
"What was the text of your oath to the Prez.?"
"Who Administered the Oath?"
"Who witnessed you taking the Oath?"
"Who else has sworn an oath to the President?"
Seems like Bush and Cheney have taken that Shadow Government think a little to literally, eh?
Impeach and Incarcerate Now!
Said it before, say it again. Suss out all house members standing in the way of impeachment. Expose. Pressure.
How about it Keith Olbermann, we'll do it together and lance the most explosive boil in history.
Orwell's Illegitimate Son @ 116:
Die on your knees with red panties on then. I'd rather die on my feet with a weapon in my hands.
andrew -
Either way, you still die.
And, either way, nobody will remember you.
andrew, and oh, how we know how fond the WH Occupiers are of red panties in particular.
With a constant-access cutout front and rear. Government Issue.
Orwell, andrew's trying to cheer you up.
Why do these damned people need attorneys if they're innocent?
What are they trying to hide?
Well, let's see now:
1. Guilt
2. Weed and coke stashes
3. Women in brothels
4. Men in brothels
5. Money from brothels
6. Dead Bodies of unAmericans
7. The encantation that will transform the GOP back into bats and return them to hell
8. The Jerry Falwell-Jeff Gannon Tape
9. The Jr. Bush Blowing that Congressman tape
10. The White Christmas Orgy Tape in Lynchburg VA
11. The Bush Twins 12 million DVD "Gone Wild" Collection
12. The Cheney Undisclosed Location
13. Laura's Driving Record
14. Jr's Criminal Record
15. Jr's Yale grades
16. The fact that Gore is REALLY the President
17. The Poppy - SATAN tapes and DVDs
18. The Fact that Tim Griffin is really Karl Rove's lovechild with Katherine Harris
19. 9/11
20. More 9/11
What isn't the White House trying to hide?
Orwell’s Illegitimate Son Says: andrew -
Either way, you still die.
And, either way, nobody will remember you.
True, but one dies like a man the other like a wuss.
caye @ 32:
hopefully, you are using your head to counter-balance those two internally opposing forces... ;-)
crazylove @ 118:
When concerned people quit, it is over. The Buscovite junta desperately wants people like us and the Judiciary committee to quit---but we won't and I hope they don't. But we'll see.
I read a book by Paul Rogat Loeb called "The Impossible Will take a Little While" about two years ago. Every time I get discouraged I read it and it does help me keep going. Nothing worthwhile is easy.
andrew @ 122:
You know, given that WAY back at post #20 he stated this was sarcasm, all these posts in response to his first one just makes all of you look stupid or lazy. You pick.
Eamon @ 20:
Here is a link to Paul Loeb:
bmw 528 @ 142:
The only way things will change is when the American people stop voting on party inertia and start voting for track records. No one in these hearings is really willing to stir up more controversy than they think their constituency and the lobbyists that employ them (both parties not just the GOP) want to hear.
I hate professional politicians, by the nature of the job they're liars and until you start looking at your candidates' track records rather than just listen to the sound bite during election time the same people will remain in DC and nothing will really change.
Honestly, when is the last time you voted FOR a candidate instead of just against the one you hated more?
klunk @ 139:
btw... should bush find himself one day as a geriatric well into his retirement and sitting on his porch rocker at his resort ranch whittling himself a new terrorist detector, he will also find himself contemplating why it is he has become such a shunned and reclusive figure.... (long after 15 years from now)...
Szin @ 142:
And the verdict is both.
Random @ 112:
Did you miss the other 500 protests across the country that happen virtually every week??
What about the largest organized march in modern history that pre-empted the War??
Yep.
Marching sure is an effective strategy.
Look where it got us.
bmw 528 @ 141:
until there is meaningful lobby/campaign finance reform from someone who IS NOT a career politician, there will be no change.
This has become , through corporate croniism on the part of both parties that has led to a government for hte Corporate Elite, by the Corporate Elite.
Until those reforms take place politicians will continue to vote according to lobbyist and campaign donations not the constituency. Policy is shaped by Corporate Elite because they pay the bills.
Where aret he REAL LEaders??
Waterboard her. It's harmless frat-boy fun.
Kulshan,
"Where are the REAL leaders??"
Looks like it's US.
Mass civil disobedience and non-cooperation. Just ahead! Cute little homemade signs and cheerleader slogans are passe` at this point. Clearly all past remedies are ineffective, which is why they've developed the Crowd Microwave Machine.
Contrary to Orville Reddenbacher, they can't pop every last one.
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