Rove Refuses To Testify
By Logan Murphy Wednesday Aug 01, 2007 8:33am
Via The Raw Story:
White House senior adviser Karl Rove has rebuked a Senate Judiciary Committee subpoena and will not appear Thursday to testify about his role in the firing of nine US Attorneys, Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT) said late Wednesday.The Senate Judiciary chairman chided the White House for allowing Rove to give public speeches about the attorney firing scandal but not permit his testimony under oath.
"Mr. Rove has given reasons for the firings that have now been shown to be inaccurate after-the-fact fabrications," Leahy said in a statement. "Yet, he now refuses to tell this Committee the truth about his role in targeting well-respected U.S. Attorneys for firing and in seeking to cover up his role and that of his staff in the scandal."
The House Judiciary Committee initiated criminal contempt of Congress charges against former White House counsel Harriet Miers and Chief of Staff Joshua Bolton last month after they refused to comply with subpoenas demanding their testimony. Read more...
Bush is pulling out his favorite trick: that's right, EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE, to keep ol' Turdblossom from testifying. Can you imagine the outcry if a Democrat, like say, Clinton, had tried this?
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Eh, there are still not enough vote to impeach? Why?
no outcry because the media has other more important topics-
and what are the dems going to do about it?
my guess?
nothing.
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Let the words go out
Stonewall
Cover-up
Obstruction of Justice.
And let them be on every democrats lips.
Ever get the sick feeling in your stomach the whole world is getting sick and tired of the United States shenanigans?
If Rove goes about telling why the attorneys were fired in public, he needs to testify or be put in jail. How does this arrhythmic disgusting loser get away with urinating on the Constitution? You can't burn the flag but our Constitution and our rights are fair game. I notice that President Bush is so far silent about the tragedy in Minneapolis. He should be held accountable since his war has made us sacrifice our infrastructure for his greed and power hunger. I am praying for the victims of the bridge collapse and know that Americans deserve better!
-- Sun rose in the east: check.
-- Gravity is holding me to the Earth: check.
-- Rove refuses to testify: check.
-- My cat didn't change into a dog overnight: check.
Yep, my checklist shows that reality didn't slip into some strange anomaly.
Condi Rice got a subpeona in April 2007 about the yellow cake. Said she was "too busy". I see her golfing all over the world.
No outcry on that one either.
Yes I do, LA Confidential. Sadly it happens more and more often these days. It's a kind of helpless feeling. There will be no justice in this administration. Laws have been and are being broken but seems no one will be held responsible. The criminals run the castle.
L.A. Confidential @ 6:
Yep. It's all going according to plan, too.
"Screw you, filthy Americans. You brought this upon yourselves," will be the reaction to our coming plight.
We're all alone in the world, and when sh*t starts to go down here, nobody will care, and nobody will help us.
The worst president and history and his "crew" telling the worst congress in history to shove it, and the worst citizens in history with their fingers up their butts.
Sing it Lee: "I'm proud to be an American..."
That's my nickle...
So, will anyone have the balls to actually do something about rove/bush and their refusals - and carry it through?
Posturing of the type carried out by specter and some of the Democrats isn't doing much good. "I'll give you a week to make things right................ OK, I'll give you another week".
This is political theater at it's best - with both sides providing the actors. If someone, anyone, is doing something illegal they should be called on it using legal means.
rove, meirs, bolten, and all the rest should rot in jail until they testify willingly. Our Constitution depends on this. We are in the shape we are in because we have been willing to let the cheney administration get away with it - for over 6 years.
I have been summoned for jury duty next week. I am going to refuse and will probably be fined. Why should I participate in a legal system where the rule of law means nothing?
Well here we are...the moment we've all been waiting for....will the consitution survive or has the putsch dried it's cement. Public enemy nr 1 ( in my opinion) gives the proverbial finger to the country. Daring Congress to conduct it's primary business. One is not surprised at all - indeed it was expected. Congress must impeach, absolutely. If not then the house and senate are impotent forever. Can they not see this? On both sides of the aisle? As far as domestic spying goes - it's not little ole me or little ole you. Members of Congress are the main targets of this spying - how else to control them except through blackmail. Each instance of late points to this (think Vetter of LA. as DC Madam's john). Sacrificial lambs
to let the group know they are being watched and will be punished. Standing up for our sacred parchment will take some courage - but who wants to bet on these people? As Jefferson said ' A little revolution now and then is a healthy thing' (paraphrased).
It's time.
handcuffs, anyone?
And the Dems will do what? Nothing. As usual.
Not that this move by the White House really takes anyone by surprise. To me it appears that the Bush White House is begging Congress for a legal show down because they think they have the judiciary in their pocket. It seems very myopic of the Republicans to attempted to further strengthen a branch of government that a Democratic candidate has a high likelihood of winning in 2008. But then again I doubt that many Democrats would take part in these rampant abuses of power even if it were available option to them.
running scared
something to hide
they're all fukced up
'cos we know they lied :)
Well this is the government that America let happen. This would not be tolerated in any country (Free country) I know of, but I guess all governments screw the people anyways so I shouldn't talk. But I know if the Bush Administration happened prior to 1913 they would have all been hung.
jojo @ 2:
Yeah, like nicole richie's pitiful celebryo.
Why should he obey a summons? Miers proved that Congress is easily ignored.
What kind of lap dog refuses to do tricks?
Do lap dogs lap dance, or turn tricks?
It seems like Rove's attempting a contemptous version of pleading the fifth. We know he's guilty, and he can refuse to answer self-incriminating questions before Congress, but instead of legally going through the process and acheiving the same result(which may make him look a tiny bit worse) he's counting on his balls-to-the-wall illegal defiance of the subpoena to be ignored in the press after a few days.
What do you think he's going today instead of testifying?
and what are the dems going to do about it? my guess? nothing.
Exactly. And they know it.
WE thought we were voting for something different last fall. Shame on us for being so dim.
Repeat after me: What Are They Trying To Hide? Now go ask everyone else in the hopes that it might trigger a few synapses to fire in the brains of Republicans who maintain a shred of decency and possess a scintilla of ethics.
Throw back at them their "If you aren't doing anything wrong, you have nothing to hide."
This can be our bumper sticker sound bite.
This Story is being shelved right now because of the disaster in Minn. We Americans need to make sure this story comes to light and stays in the headlights. It shows the BOLD CONTEMPT this WH has for the American People and the Rule of Law.
Every person here should go and sign the Impeachment of Gonzales petition here:
http://www.democrats.com/peoplesemailnetwork/94
and then pass it on to you circle of friends.
WE, the People...Need to get this done.
Quakerdave @ 24:
As soon as Pelosi said "Impeachment is off the table" we were duped.
Now Pelosi is backing the President to expand the wire tap program.
Quakerdave @ 24:
Yeah. Well, some of us came to that conclusion before last November and were ridiculed, dismissed as "trolls" and scoffed at.
I won't be like Rush Limbaugh and his eight-year-old followers and use the phrase "I told you so" even thought I rightfully could.
L.A. Confidential @ 6:
I've been sick and tired of the USA most of my life, so this isn't making much difference - except for providing some fascinating entertainment.
pitchforks and torches
It's time to bury this whole political system in the dirt and piss on it.
Nice example Bush Co sets for people huh?
Executive privilege is the only thing keeping this administration from falling apart. Yeah, I hope our next presidents don't learn from this abuse.
Canuknotusa @ 29:
This is exactly what we can expect when things get ugly around here. Please try to remember, Canuk, that both of the elections were STOLEN. We did not elect this joker.
Gee how come Drudge doesn't have this as his main splash headline with the little police strobe light flashing above it?
"Can you imagine the outcry if a Democrat, like say, Clinton, had tried this?"
Wha..Who, Clinton? Penis! Cleavage! Oral Sex!........Wha, Oh it was a Republican?
Nevermind
I get a sense that a majority of this country (the non-wingnut, non-beltway part) is hunkered down trying to hang on until the clock runs out on these shitbags.
Obama wants to bomb Pakistan. Russia has laid claim to the Arctic. More than one surveillance system is in place in the USofA. Japan had a big election the other day. The mortgage industry here in the USofA is on the verge of collapse. Hedge funds are teetering on the edge of dissolution. The USofA is giving $50 billion worth of defense and military aid to hostile (to each other) regimes all over the Middle East.
Good thing a bridge collapsed so none of that has to be covered on the 24-hour "news" channels.
Enjoy your day.
Rove is in effect hiding behind the Minnesota bridge story... How does one be so utterly cowardly yet so completely brazen at the same time?
anonymous @ 34:
I lived in the States for a few years back in the early '90s and most people I met were not much different from Canadians, except for being chock full of themselves. But on the whole, I don't mind Americans - I just despise your government foreign policy and your corporate raping of the rest of the world. Of course, now I have even more stuff to despise about the good ol' USofA.
Hey, executive privilege doesn't really exist because it's not mentioned in the Bible. or the Constitution. Or Mad Magazine. /snark/
Again our lousy (collectively) congress sits on their thumbs and enjoys the ride. It is really sad that they do nothing to end the crimes. They must be conspirators to act like this. Prove that we are wrong, NOW.
Rove would make a lousy fundie Christian.
They're always called to testify.
it seems to me we have been played for suckers by both partys! sure bill clinton got the country back up and in fairly good shape after reagan and old man bush raped our treasury, but then clinton got nafta passed, then we got free trade , where chinas sucked our country dry from shitty goods and the corporate whores here started sending our jobs to communist china god dam it communist china didnt i help fight thoes cocksuckers in korea in the fiftys? their are grave yards full of guys who thought they were serveing their country fighting against the communist hordes, so much for dieing for ones country, then after clinton got our bank account back up , for the next rape by georgey boy bill goes and sucks off old man bush on the golf course and hillery holds babs douchbag for her, so this next elections going to feature hillery clinton and probably gouliani, and theirs not enough difference between these two corporate whores to make any difference in our lives , were still under the rich pricks thumbs either way it goes, lifes a bitch aint it?
Congress needs to decide whether or not a mere political hack can hide behind "Executive Priveledge".
The excuse the Bushies use when claiming executive priveledge is "The President needs to get candid advice from his advisers".
Should this include political hacks?
I don't think so. And I think someone smarter than me can make a really good case why the advice given to the President from the Secretary of State is different than the advice given from a political hack.
Wow! -- The higher you climb the ladder of power, the less you have to obey the law!!! --- Im gonna be president so I can rape, kill, lie, steal and laugh at all my citizens! And then threaten THEM with jail or harsh punishment if they go against anything I say.
Zip it you terra-rists, I am your decider - and I can put you in Gitmo, Yeeeeeeeeeehaaaaw! (fake cowboy accent)
I think at this point it has been extablished that the firings of the USAs was improper and politically motivated. Gonzo made this quite clear. If they are going to user Executive privelige, then they should supoena the president. If he denies testifying, then it clear that this decision went all the way to the top.
this is another line drawn in the sand. will the dems quiver and quake and fail again, or have they grown stronger and more resolved in the interim. the answer lies in whether rove takes the stand or not. simple...and we're watching.
Orwell's Illegitimate Son @ 28:
Yeah well, I'm getting tired of being right. I want to live in a world where my pessimism is unwarranted.
Hey! I bet it will be different in 2008!
Not!
Orwell's Illegitimate Son @ 11:
No, although we loathe your "Decider", most of the world is still smart enough to make a difference between the American people and its people (especially given his dubious track record in terms of fair elections).
If you get tired, you can always visit me in France where myself and a few other cheese-eatin'-surrendering mokeys will welcome you !
Perks : we have a very good universal healthcare, good wines & food, a very strong sense of separation between church and state... and also, no decent Frenchman would believe in intelligent design.
"... between the American people and its PRESIDENT" of course. I really dont make sense today, dammit !
When will congress go to federal court and sue the executive branch to enforce the will of congress?
Instead of going to court the Dems just issue another subpoena for yet another member of the Bush team.
Logan wrote:
Bush is pulling out his favorite trick: that’s right, EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE, to keep ol’ Turdblossom from testifying. Can you imagine the outcry if a Democrat, like say, Clinton, had tried this?
This is the problem with letting Bush just hang out iwith low 30's approval ratings. So he flips the bird at Congress and the Constitution, so what? What's the consequence to him? Is he gonna lose more of his non-existent popularity? He clearly is not concerned with that metric. This is why impeachment is required. REQUIRED.
Do subpoenas have the force of law behind them?
I used to think they do, but Bush says they don't.
Rovian Pig Roast:
1 dash of Impeachment
several days of curing via citizen backlash
2 sprigs of War Criminal Trials in the Hague
Add a Saddam necktie and 10 minutes over some boiling oil...
La Parisienne @ 50:
Cool, I'll bring my bicycle.
L.A. Confidential @ 35:
Notice how on Drudge's radio he does not talk politics anymore? Thank goodness for Hilton and Ritchie.
The Executive branch tyranny won't stop until contempt charges strat to fly
Canuknotusa @ 29:
Enjoy you fun ... but it might be a little less funny once you realize we do have to share the same planet. So my advice is : think again.
It's awful that the bridge fell, but covering it constantly and saying nothing new is frustrating as hell. They just keep saying the same things over and over and showing the same pics. There is no escaping it.
I guess it's easier to do that than to find other news to report.
Bush missed his calling. He should have been a preacher. He could have had the job forever and he's great at telling lies. If he could convince this country that war with Iraq was necessary, he could convince his flock that the devil would grab them if they committed a sin.
Godfry Daniel @ 14:
civil disobedience. the question really is are we prepared to spend time in the local jail for our beliefs. this is a logical step before taking it to the streets. talk about ambivalence, i heard on radio america this morning where pakistan had posted an altered picture of the white house going up in flames with the message wait for the big surprise. there's still a part of me that wants to fight back and yet there is a larger part that understands why they do what they do.
The only thing that will be on the news today is the bridge collapse in Minneapolis. This Rove-thumbing-his-nose at his Congressional subpoena will slide right under the radar unnoticed.
Weaseldog @ 56:
Cool, I'll bring my bicycle.
We frogs are not all mad about the Tour de France you know ... I personally think watching a bunch of druggies pedalling like mad rabbits rather boring. I am more into rugby and football (soccer) ... but hey, what do I know, I am French, right ?
La Parisienne @ 50:
Thanks. I have always defended France against unwarranted verbal attacks from the likes of Bush and his cronies. What can you expect from them since they deny history or flat out just don't know any. If they had their way, the Statue of Liberty would probably be torn down and shipped back to France.
La Parisienne.
When can I come over? Do you have a spare room? I don't speak or read French well, but I can learn. I'll need a job, of course.
I swear - if I EVER could get out of here and had a sure place to go, I'd leave yesterday.
What ARE you talking about??? He did try that!
nwmuse @ 62:
AMAZING coincidence, eh?
La Parisienne @ 59:
Same pile - different administration. We've been "sharing the planet" with this rogue state for a long time. Nothing will change.
"Can you imagine the outcry if a Democrat, like say, Clinton, had tried this?"
that kind of outcry would be merited but in this case the Dems don't have a talk radio monopoly to "catapult the propaganda ", or in this case the truth, into the MSM.
instead the GOP can catapult Edward's haircut into the MSM. happens all the time, manufactured in GOP 'think' tanks, the White House, etc., and magnified by the talk radio monopoly that allows uncontested repetition.
instead the GOP blowhards will make excuses for Rove and divert attention like Reveres in reverse.
all other mediums except the outright partisan outlets have to at least pretend to have an opposing voice. not so with the talk radio monopoly.
until some new Fairness Doctrine or something like it evens the playing field the right wing of the republican party will continue to control the MSM from the bottom up.
La Parisienne @ 50:
need to thank paisiene for the offer, but in a sense it would be giving up and leaving the country to the decider and his ilk.
the offer to relocate is appreciated though. however, i wonder on the larger question if the world really is able to differentiate between the majority of american people that i truly believe for the most part are good people and the crookedness of the decider and his regime. i honestly hope the world knows there is a difference. or are we all seen just as mini-me deciders.
The smirking fucks (rove, cheney and bush) think this is all a joke. Congress can let it be that way but it's up to them to make sure it's not.
The leak in the NYT that it was Cheney that send Fredo to Ashcroft's hospital room has the stink of Rove on it. Quietly (and anonymously) leak something damaging to the administration, then later when it is officially disclosed, yawn and act like it's nothing new.
Anybody want to bet me that in the next few weeks or months when it's
dragged out of the White Houseconfirmed that Cheney gave the orders, Tony Snow will be telling the press poodles "That's old news."That pic of Rove looks like the kid in The Christmas Story, all grown up. The kid who wanted a bb gun so bad. Sorry, didn't mean to insult the kid.
Friggin' Hatch. Man, I can't stand that guy. What a tool.
Waterboard him.
Bet he'll talk just fine.
Orwell's Illegitimate Son @ 65:
Honestly you could and YES I do have a spare room... where I do lodge my visiting US friends.
However, I tend to agree with "No longer a proud American", if people like you or most of the C&L regulars (those damned "libruls") left the US it would amount to abandoning the ship to Shrub and its evil ilk !
You're still welcome to visit though ... never mind that you don't speak French, the only requirement if you want to stay alive here is twofold: i) call soccer football (as it must) and ii) never EVER say that our cheeses smell like feet (even though some of them do ... but they still taste heavenly with a crusty baguette ! sorry, I am hungry...)
Of course cheney sent gonzo to that room that night. You knew it was when cheney answered with the secret message words, "I don't recall" Get out your bush administration secret decoder ring. I don't recall translates to Fu*kin' A.
This lil' fella' has been the center of our current 'fiasco' in the Oval office for far too many years. Guantanamo sounds nice.
Same Players. Different Scandal.
Watching a Vintage newscast never sounded so sweet...yet it still left me with a sour taste in my mouth. Its amazing the same tactics that Nixon was using are the same as the GOP currently. Didn't work in the '70's, but sure did in 2000.
Meanwhile Congress sits on there fucking thumbs? :mad:
their
If Hatch wants to be productive , why doesn't he ask a question that might defend the Whitehouse instead of stumping for the WH?
Godfry Daniel @ 14:
I am in Austin Texas and I agree with you, I will also refuse to participate as a juror until we have restored the rule of law in this country. Bill Bryant
La Parisienne.
This country is f*cked, and has been for quite some time. I just came to realize this two years ago. I seriously want off of the Titanic before it strikes the iceberg, 'cause we're sailing right toward it and very few people seem to want or care to notice. Too busy listening to the band play on, I suppose.
I promise: I will call soccer "football" (as it should be) and won't comment on the smell of any cheese. I'll just be glad to no longer have to sniff the stench that is the rampant and irreversible decaying of the USofA.
La Parisienne @ 63:
We frogs are not all mad about the Tour de France you know ... I personally think watching a bunch of druggies pedalling like mad rabbits rather boring. I am more into rugby and football (soccer) ... but hey, what do I know, I am French, right ?
I don't *watch* sports. Just like I don't go to bars to watch people drink! :)
Fine, I'll go hang out with my friend Scott in Spain then. :P
79 (_(_) Says
Meanwhile Congress sits on there fucking thumbs?
Their own or each others?
NewsSophisticate @ 78:
Could that be what Romney meant by "double Guantanamo?" He wants to send the entire Bush administration there?
Naw, I guess not. It's still a good idea though.
It turns out that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and her husband Paul broke bread last night at the White House with President Bush and his wife, Laura.
The evening began with a one-on-one meeting between the president and the speaker, after which they were joined for dinner by their spouses, according to Pelosi. Pelosi tells us that it is important to have a "good rapport" with the president -- and in fact, she says, that is exactly what they have.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/08/01/300823.aspx
john @ 17:
Don't assume that Democrats won't abuse power. It weakens the argument against infractions of civil liberties when we suggest that the problem is the person and not the infraction or potential for infraction.
Bush can go "Executive Privilege" his as straight to hell.
Waterboarding would probably never work on Rove.
He looks like a guy who had his head stuffed in a toilet on a daily basis all through junior high.
thank god for another photo op and bush cheny ass kissing because of that bridge collapse, the lard works in mysterious ways~
Article II
Section 3. He shall from time to time give to the Congress information of the state of the union... he shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed.
Section 4. The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.
-----------------------------
When Bush and his officers REFUSE to give to the Congress information of the state of the union authorized by Section 3, even though Congress demands the information under penalty should the information be withheld or should the officers LIE to Congress then Congress should IMMEDIATELY bring the hammer down and invoke the remedy of Section 4.
The Constitution is very explicitly specific about this relationship between Congress and the President, both in the President's obligation to give information to the Congress and what must happen if he fails or refuses to do so.
Well Well Well @ 19:
Well, look at how it worked in my country, in France: as long as Chirac and his gov. were in place, they were immune to judicial inquiry because of some explicit and well accepted constitutionnal/judicial privilege. Only two months after the change of power, Chirac went to testify and de Villepin, ex prime minister, was indicted for old corruption charges. Maybe in the US you will have to wait until those thugs became simple citizens to get them. But I'm afraid that your country won't care anymore, when I see how the US forget its plotical scandals. The non sexual ones. Nobody have forgotten the Clinton/Lewinsky affair but no one seems to care that Oliver North the traitor who sold weapons to Iran to secretely, illegaly and against congress instructions fond a south american insurgency come on TV to warn agains the danger of... Iran's weapons ! And I do think that in 5 or 10 years when Saudi Arabia will turn its brand new US weapons against... the US after some social or islamic revolution against the US supported dictatorship who rules this country nobody will blame or indict the Bushist. Just as the US have forgotten the Iranian and the Afghan history, all we'll hear will be "why do they hate us?".
Hello? "THEY" get away with all their shit because all they've ever needed to do
is dangle the carrot, throw out enough crumbs to keep us pacified (the majority)
with entertainment, all the while robbing the populace blind.
It works with any Empire. Bread and Circuses people.
Enjoy the show.
Harley @ 87:
The Oath you took, Ms. Pelosi, requires you to defend, protect and preserve The Constitution, just like Bush is supposed to do. If you two are talking about activities or omission of activities that violate your Oaths or violate following the requirements of your jobs, as explicitly specified by The Constitution, in Article 2, Sections 3 & 4, then you are both guilty of conspiracy to violate your Oaths of office and the fulfillment of your jobs as defined in The Constitution.
Political Saints @ 88:
It seems like the current crop of Democrats in Washington don't have the balls to try the stuff the Busheviks are pulling.
Lieberman must have taken all the chutzpah with him when he switched parties.
myiq2xu @ 90:
And the shit went right to his brain.
And remember, every time you see that 'W 04' sticker on the back of that SUV, pickup or car, the person driving it still supports the guy responsible for all of this.
Bill Clinton would ask Rove some great questions (youtube)!
Playbook for Empire (the 2 party system)
When one party is in power, overtly display multitudes of corruption,
this will in turn 'energize' the OTHER party and their constituants to
vote (by rigging) that party into power to give the illusion of hope and change.
Once the other party is in power, repeat above.
any questions?
He's that Turd Blossom Special
Weaslin' down the Executive line
I am disgusted beyond belief. Story after story, the ending is the same, the democrats continually cave in to these criminals. Rove, Miers, and Gonzo should be sitting in jail for contempt of Congress. 6 months ago I was feeling hopeful that our democracy would be restored. I've been played for a fool by the party I've supported since I came of age to vote 30 years ago. Hey Nancy, you listening? My democratic vote is off the table. Assuming we see elections in 2008, I'm voting independent and against any incumbents. If it hands victory to the Rethuglicans, so be it. By that point, if they get the white house again, I'm selling the house, cashing out my equity, and moving abroad. Y'all can stay in americuh and figure out how to pay your health insurance while your job is outsourced to China.
America, R.I.P. 1776-2000
So Reich Minister Rove is now officially above the Law?
Well Duh!!!!!! No big news there.
The republicans are loving this lawlessness.
They thrive on it.
Face it, its the republican party that is dong all it can
to bring down the Republic, and install a new type of
Unified Fuhrer as King and Lord of all. As usual, they
will wake up, 10 minutes after its too late to stop it.
And then of course spend the next decade blaming
Bill Clinton's Dick for the slide into Dictatorship. I mean
really guys and gals, you knew it all along. If not for
those damnable liberals we could have had 4th Reich
years ago.
Rove Takes Fifth Amendment
Karl Rove is taking the Fifth Amendment.
That is, he's taking it right out of the constitution.
He has line item power over the Constitution.
(Heard on Nat'l Public Radio humor show.)
Labels: constitution, fifth amendment, line item veto, rove, subpoena
Orwell's Illegitimate Son @ 83:
Well my friend, can't say I do not see what you mean ... and as a European, I feel both a little priviledged but also more than a little helpless. At least you get to VOTE in '08 to try to stop this bunch of madmen. Although my feeling is that the American will only be able to claim their democarcy back once 1) the US campaign financing is reformed and 2) the mainstream media starts doing its job again.
myiq2xu @ 96:
I don't think anyone would be surprised how quickly a Democrat would find their 'chutzpah' when given the powers and apparent immunity to scrutiny that have been crafted by the Bush/Cheney Administration.
Weaseldog @ 84:
I don't *watch* sports. Just like I don't go to bars to watch people drink! :)
Fine, I'll go hang out with my friend Scott in Spain then. :P
Love Spain as well ... heck, do the full European tour while you're at it and do not forget Italy of course (my mum's country):P
Is ANYONE surprised by this? Give me a break! These mofos MUST be taken down. Rove is another candidate for Inherent Contempt! Ms. Pelosi, Mr. Reid: do your f*cking jobs!!!!
Oh lawd! If the dems would act like these phony-ass repugs there would be a civil war.
Dems need to get to it fast! If they don't, they are complicit.
It's the whole chimpy's gang that is playing this bs shell game.
They have something to hide and it's hugh.
Bushfia, the new Corleone family. Instead of a horse's head it our troops' lives.
The American democracy as we know it is over. The President can prevent congress from investigating him/her by asserting executive priviledge because the Democrats and Republicans are allowing it. There have been so many transgressions.
So the question that has to be answered: Why are our lawmakers continuing to allow these issues fester???
Exactly how do we get a knife into some crack and tell these Bozo's that their executive orders and privileges are a sack of worthless blabber? They have to ANSWER to the people and their representatives.
Anyone who causes wars based on deceit and lies should have all of their assets seized...
Weaseldog @ 56:
Yep....and WHY if France so committed to SEPARATION of Church/religion and State? Because they suffered wars of religion for over a century -- 30,000 Protestants murdered in ONE DAY in Paris under Catherine de Medici, King Henri 4th assassinated by Jesuit-financed thug, etc. etc. Will we see the same kind of thing in the USA? Watch out, it is brewing as we speak. Bush hard-core rapturists and 25% nihilists want nothing better than the death and destruction of our nation and constitution, so we can all become "worm food" ala Pat Tillman.
Judging from the smile on Rove's face in this picture, Jeff Gannon must be in the room.
Christ! It is absolutely amazing what the american people will let this administration get away with......
Man, what a waste of time that was. WTF is he claiming EP over docs that were given to the Committe is beyond me.
L.A. Confidential @ 6:
Criminal law-breaking, treason, crimes against humanity, and (my opinion) murder...not what you would call shenanigans.
Yes, it is a sick feeling in my stomach. I have actually entertained thoughts of moving to Canada, as this country has been hijacked by today's version of Nazis.
Just Me @ 113:
In fact, he's kneeling before the Rovemeister
alright, time to get grassroots on their asses. we need a redoubled push for impeachment bills in state legislatures where dems control both houses. i know this has been tried already, but we need to keep trying. the point is, if congress won't do it, we will.
states where democrats control both houses:
connecticut
hawaii (large dem advantage in both houses)
illinois (already a bill introduced)
maine
maryland
massachusetts
minnesota
new hampshire
new jersey (pretty even)
new mexico
oregon
rhode island
vermont (already failed here)
washington
west virginia
anybody in hawaii? republican governor there, but large majorities in house and senate could override veto...
this whole thing is just frustrating, but something has to be done. we can't give up.
michael moore has an impeachment form for states, cities and towns here
Orwell's Illegitimate Son @ 65:
Ditto. Just the THOUGHT of getting myself and my daughter out of this madness gave me a little breathing space. I'm getting to the point where I'm going to need a self-imposed break from the news just to maintain what semblance of sanity and hope I still possess.
Wow, like lookin' in a mirror!
This son of a bitch has got to be impeached. These bastards have got to be stopped, from Cheney on down. Butch up Dems! Make it so.
anonymous @ 119:
Get a note from your doctor and come to California and visit a Cannabis Club. Then you can take a trip to France without a passport or a plane ticket.
nohbear @ 102:
Thank you for saying what needs to be said! : )
My democratic vote is off the table.
Let's quit talking about all the fluff and do what needs to be done.
Godfry Daniel @ 14:
Exactly. I have been saying this for some time: If the Bush Cartel is above the law, then so are we. If they can flout the law in every possible way, so can we.
WHY should We The People obey the many laws(most of which are unjust and unfair anyway) if the elected reps, the Congress(critters), the VICEpresident, the appointed puppet president, etc, laugh at the Constitution, Bill of Rights, wipe their butts with it, put forth one set of standards for themselves and another for us?
Lying, two faced, double standards, hypocrits. Greedy, selfish, war mongering, fear mongering, power mad murderers.
WHAT loyalty do we owe these despots and their police thugs at this point? What obedience and respect do we owe them at this point? Why are we paying illegal Federal taxes, putting up with every treaty, every last speck of moral ethics and human decency trashed into the ground? For what?
When do we take the words of Thomas Jefferson to heart.
If a Democratic President had staff that refused to testify, the media would talking it up endlessly, going on about how the Democrat is giving the middle finger to the Constitution, Congress, and the nation.
They need to all be removed and sent to someplace where they'll face war crimes trials; I thought since they committed their crimes against Iraq then Iraq should try them. Every POS that just couldn't recall or can't remember should go.
Harley @ 87:
Cindy Sheehan for Senate.
yeranalyst @ 127:
I'd rather have a shemale, Sheehan's time has passed.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/st...
Paying Attention @ 99:
Stop admiring this disigenuous pig. He is part of the problem. A DLC wunderkind who helped ruin the Democratic Party. He is the person who pulled the spine out of these so called Democrats in Congress. Tell me willy worshippers one thing that he authored as President that you think was progressive.
Cindy Sheehan? Give me a HUGE break. WTF do you think SHE could accomplish in the House?
ysbaddaden @ 128:
#WTF are you talking about? What a ludicrous thing to say. What has changed? What does a shemale have to do with anything except your sexual desires?
I just don't know what else to ask our congress to do, that I can count on them following up with.
The more they allow these people to get over on them the worse it is getting.
I am almost sorry I wanted them to continue this over site crap because with over site comes the responsibility of doing something about the problems you run into and it seems that we just can't get it right.
In spite of all the indictments we are seeing, there are still far two many of these criminal liars still on the federal payroll doing exactly what they want to do and the laws that govern these positions, be dammed.
Somehow these people have got to see that Bush and his so called executive privilege scam, has got to be stopped because eighteen months of this shit can do some major damage to this country and set these fools up to actually lose the 2008 election.
There is just no talking to democrats that they will listen to other then the Rupert Murdock gang that they are so worried about being embarrassed or not get a shot on these vile net works to sit and get talked stupid to.
It's painful to see them fight to get legislation passed to only have it slapped back in their face by these people and that is exactly what Bush plans to do for the next eighteen months. All the work they did this week is going to be shot down by this administration and it was all for nothing.
I would rather spend my time kicking his ass right back with consistent legislation to Impeach his ass even if it does not pass, and give him the finger every time he even thinks he wants more money other then to feed and bring our young people home from that illegal hell, but they just will not see fit to fight this bastard the only way they can and that just sets me on fire.
Throw him in jail for contempt of congress. And keep him there until he relents. That's it; that's all.
right on! @ 134:
You should have put the period in your second sentence after the word "there."
Dr. Acula @ 131:
Quite a bit more than Pelosi. Oh, you think Pelosi doing a bang up job. Well no accounting for peoples delusions. With Sheehan I know that there would be one person who would not be afraid to stand up to the fascists in the administration. Pelosi has done nothing, absolutely nothing. She can take her rapport with psycho monkey boy and stick it where her moon don't shine.
Miers, Rove, Gonzo, etc. -- Inherent Contempt of Congress. Indict, charge, convict, incarcerate.
DO IT DEMS! We can't wait another 15 months!!!!
No yeranalyst, I DON'T think Pelosi is doing a "bang up job" but you are deluded if you think a neophyte like Sheehan is the answer.
Haven't we had enough of single-issue politicians?
I have been betrayed quite enough. Nazis in the Whitehouse and Dems who refuse to stop them in Congress. I'll vote for anyone who is not a Repulican, Libertarian or any of its rightwing variants or incumbents.
Dr. Acula @ 138:
Assuming Sheehan won the election, she would become a junior Representative from a state with more reps than any other. No committee chairmanships, no clout, no experience.
So who moves up to Speaker? Steny Hoyer?
And by then, Crawford, Texas has its village idiot back and the new Democratic President is pulling the troops out of Iraq and bringing them home anyway.
The Dems aren't going to do shit!
Pelosi is a complicit, cowardly pussy
Reid is a spineless, castrated fool.
The entire party is pathetic.
I'm done with them.
Fuck'em.
Da Spyda @ 142:
So you're gonna do what? Go Green and vote for Nader?
WHY do the Dumbocrats still want to "play nice" with Busholini and his criminal cohorts?
Do they simply not give a sh*t? Or, as a number of you have suggested on numerous posts, are they complicit?
Whatever the truth is, this country is a shambles of what it once was.
Godfry Daniel @ 14:
BINGO!
Dr. Acula @ 138:
i have two conflicting thoughts on this...
1) clearly she wouldn't have the power that pelosi has, and the rest of the dem caucus would be wary of her
2) i don't think it would be what she could do, but merely the message to the rest of the dem caucus by electing her that would be powerful. they'd be quaking in their boots.
Orwell's Illegitimate Son @ 83:
Bye....
Rollo Tomassi @ 98:
I HAVE noticed a lot fewer of those W '04 stickers on cars that I know had them previously.
I almost feel pity when I see a W '04 sticker now because I know that the driver of that vehicle is intellectually impaired.
Dr. Acula @ 138:
Oh? Well I guess we should keep the do nothing, morally challenged, "experienced" hack on as Representative then. Generally when an incumbent gets replaced, its by a neophyte, at least a neophyte in Congress. There have been a number of Congressmen that were "neophytes". Part of the problem with Congress is they are jaded by the process of becoming experienced in the Party mill, kissing the money lenders ass. I do mean lenders.
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