Lieberman already picking the next target
By Steve Benen Sunday Aug 19, 2007 2:00pmSen. Joe Lieberman, not content with two wars, is already picking his preferred target for a third. From his latest op-ed in (where else?) the Wall Street Journal:
The United States is at last making significant progress against al Qaeda in Iraq — but the road to victory now requires cutting off al Qaeda’s road to Iraq through Damascus. […]
When Congress reconvenes next month, we should set aside whatever differences divide us on Iraq and send a clear and unambiguous message to the Syrian regime, as we did last month to the Iranian regime, that the transit of al Qaeda suicide bombers through Syria on their way to Iraq is completely unacceptable, and it must stop.
TP highlights the many flaws in Lieberman's approach.
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Syria is the Benadryl for our loving Vietnam War allergy sufferer from CT
Dear Connecticut,
Will you please keep a leash on your reich-winger Lieberman?
Sincerely,
America
So many to mass murder; so little time.
Let's not forget about Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, or Americans for that matter.
Liberman has such concerns because its Israel first, not America. Let's call it as it is.
Ahh, whaddya' expect from a guy who's been BUSTED FOR POLITICAL CROSS-DRESSING
Throw Lieberman in jail... he's a terrorist trying to incite wars... and he's definitely a traitor. Enough is enough.
Attacking another country will put us on course to doing the unthinkable, reinstating the draft.
The logic has been that we won't attack Iran or some other country, because we don't have the troops and we'd have to bring back the draft first.
For Bush, this thinking is backwards. Bush believes in acting first, then finding ways to cover his ass after. He screws up, then gets others to pay for his mistakes.
So it would be completely in character for Bush to start a war, without thought for the consequences. Once the war has begun, it will be self evident that we need a draft. Our politicians will slither all over each other trying to support the troops by bringing back the draft.
Im soo sick of Liberman shit, I can't wait until he's null and void! Hurry up "08.
It has never been resolved as to whether or not this person is a citizen of Israel. This is relevent considering he is always looking after another states' interest above our own.
Another thing, the people of Connecticut did not elect Lieberman. Diebold selected him.
Damn, I had Iran in the office pool.
Damn straight!!
tim osman @ 10:
Somebody do something about this douchebag please!
Can't we just reissued to LIE-berman his flak jacket and helmet and send him into
Syria to take care of the problem...and not to the market place, but to the area
where he says terrorists are operating...He might also need a rifle and ammo, so
if we can locate some of the 190,000 missing, then he could surely be given one
of them also.
tim osman @ 10:
I believe it's been resolved that Michael Chertoff IS an Israeli citizen. What I don't get is why this doesn't doesn't bother the xenophobes of the 28% brigade.
It's like Austin Pendleton was inseminated with the seed of the Dark One and this was the result. Unfrickinbelievable.
Just think if he and Gore rightly took the WH in 2000, this loon could actually be running as president right now after 2 terms as the VP. Scary.....
dick and joe are trying to stop the regional war but they will fail like they did in Iraq.
"Stephen Biddle, a member of a group that advised U.S. Gen. David Petraeus in Iraq last year, and a military analyst with the Council on Foreign Relations, told the Sunday Times that the British have lost control of Basra and that the inevitable withdrawal from that city will be "ugly".
Biddle ... said insurgents and militia groups were likely to target British soldiers with ambushes, roadside bombs and rocket-propelled grenades as they leave.
"It will be a hard withdrawal. They want the image of a British defeat," Biddle told the paper. "It will be ugly and embarrassing."
He says "insurgents are calling the shots" in Basra."
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/8/20/01555/4831
Have you noticed the media has stopped reporting on Iraq?
Lieberman and McCain have both gone bat$#!+ senile. Can't Lieberman sign on as McCain's running mate, pretty-please? Then we can, politically speaking, put both the codgers on the same chunk of icefloe and have done with 'em. Keeping them in power is like leaving Charlton Heston in charge of the NRA.
I'm starting to think waterboarding may not be totally unacceptable in all circumstances.
For instance, if it would shut Lieberman's warmongering mouth up, then I could probably support it.
RE @17: "Just think if he and Gore rightly took the WH in 2000, this loon could actually be running as president right now after 2 terms as the VP. Scary….."
Keep this in mind the next time someone champions Gore for 2008, or any other member of the Donkey Mafia. Remember, their mascot is an ass for a reason.
These neo-cons should just bite the bullet and declare war on the entire middle east; it would save them the trouble of having to make a case for each country individually. They also better be ready to do a draft, unless they want to garrison each country with a only a brigade of troops. Maybe they'll accompany their new strategy with the a new rallying cry for the troops: Fight smarter, not harder! Of course if the troops ever wise up they'll probably start fragging politicians.
We could use their "logic" to solve the immigration problem in one fell swoop: we just inform Mexico that we'll attack them unless they start controlling their border.
Wouldn't it be easier to just tell the countries we don't plan on attacking anytime soon?
Rusty Shackleford @ 11:
Do they have a bikini version of the burka?
The Iranians are bombing the Kurds:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,2152325,00.html
Yellow - you can't be serious. Any fool should be able to understand that Liberman has a soft spot in his heart for Israel and all it's entanglements. Zionism might as well be an all out banned word in the American media, but it most certainly means something. And Liberman certainly shows his connection to this movement and thus we can see how it motivates his fucked up conclusions on what he promotes as U.S. foreign policy.
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Kryptman @ 13:
I'd callhim a douchebag, but douchebags actually serve a purpose.
Neocon madness. It's not just ideology...it's policy.
ysbaddaden @ 24:
Have you not heard of the Burqini?
getalife @ 25:
but, but, but we're at last making significant progress against al Qaeda in Iraq - just ask Joe!
ysbaddaden @ 23:
I'm sure that Kuwait, Qatar and Saudi Arabia already know they're safe.
It's the rest of us who should be looking over our shoulders.
The vast majority of foreign al-Qaeda fighters in Iraq are Saudis. The only clear and unambiguous message we have sent to the Saudis is a 20 billion dollar arms sale.
imagine, he is in office until 2012! I still cannot believe he was re-elected last year
getalife @ 25:
Crap.
Is this true? Does it matter?
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President Bush has never been shy about falsely linking the 9/11 attacks to his war in Iraq. Now, the Bush White House apparently is planning to reach a new low in symbolic cynicism when it comes to selling its Baghdad debacle. General David Petraeus will deliver his much anticipated Iraq surge progress report on September 11 itself.
For the details, see:
"Surprise! Petraeus to Testify on 9/11."
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"The British are not facing what the Americans were facing in Saigon, which was a well-equipped army as opposed to disparate murderers and terrorists". He was responding to claims by Bush adviser Stephen Biddle, who warned the British would have to fight their way out in an "ugly and embarrassing" retreat.
Yet they are retreating...
. . .send a clear and unambiguous message to the Syrian regime, as we did last month to the Iranian regime, that the transit of al Qaeda suicide bombers through Syria on their way to Iraq is completely unacceptable, and it must stop.
Yes, let's send a message to those negligent Syrians who let al Qaeda suicide bombers travel through their country. As opposed to sending a clear and unambiguous message to the al Qaeda suicide bombers themselves:
www.asecondlookatthesaudis.com
This is the one thing I really don't understand about the Neocons. Trying to make a patsy out of every country in the Middle East that utters a belligerent word about Israel is one thing, but are the Saudis really not anti-Semitic enough for them?
Weaseldog @ 39:
Basra is a port. Personally, I cant imagine why the local Shia wouldnt provide security for the British as they load onto ships. The British exit is what they want, I dont think they want arclite strikes.
PNAAC Minister @ 31:
More proof that the war [sic] is going swimmingly.
Who died and made Lieberman the international sheriff? He needs to STF up before we get into any more wars and kill any more people.
I say that we should make him the Mideast envoy.
the troops will mutiny, and we can end this foolishness.
Weaseldog @ 35:
I think dick and joe are trying to stop Regional war that has begun.
England has lost Basra, China and Russia are allied with Iran, the Iraq government has failed and our media is silent. Malarki is in Syria.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6954321.stm
Looks like we can get info from England's media.
Bad Foreign Policy, I wonder who he has at heart.
Comment #37 If this is true that Gen P will give his report on 9-11, this is as awful as bush standing on the Abraham Lincoln and saying mission accomplished. Talk about using deaths for political reasons, this takes the cake.
Dr. Matt @ 42:
Dr. Matt @ 42:
This is underreported. The Kurds are being provotative in Turkey and Iran ...
http://www.ekurd.net/mismas/articles/misc2005/1/iran2.htm
http://www.ekurd.net/mismas/articles/misc2007/7/turkeykurdistan1308.htm
Notice the perspective that western Iran and southeastern Turkey are kurdistan.
I THINK IRAN SHOULD ATTACK THE KURDS - AS SHOULD TURKEY.
Sorry for raising my voice. But Bush's prescious Kurds are monumental shit disturbers and your fucking children will die as a result. ARE YOU PAYING ATTENTION?
Weaseldog @ 35:
Yes, it is true...and what does matter is fact that we have to get this type of news
from the Guardian(foreign news)since it is NOT reported by our MSM...
If I'm not mistaken, this is his fourth, after Iran!
POP, I was thinking more along the lines of his campaign commercial that used images from 9/11 when he had earlier said it was an incident that should never be politicized. When called on that one, the administration's response was that it was legitimate to show the historical record and Bush's place in it.
Sigh.
Doggiebobo @ 50:
Read 49, Irans attack is probably defensive.
Doggiebobo @ 50:
I meant, "Does it matter if its true?" This gives justification for a bombing campaign of Iran.
anon @ 41:
Shutting down the port, will screw up Halliburton's oil exports. Isn't that in Iraq's long term interests?
Weaseldog @ 54:
This gives Iran justification for bombing the Kurds.
anon @ 53:
I am not questioning WHO is right or wrong...the point being "our MSM" is not reporting
and therefore as usual is NOT doing it's job of responsibly reporting to the citizens of
this country what is going on.
Weaseldog @ 55:
The Shia will literally own all of Iraq south of Baghdad with the exit of the Brits. That is too important to get wrong. This will give the Shia sovereignty - a very big deal and one Bush wont like.
Doggiebobo @ 57:
I understand. I'm just pointing out that this story about Iran bombing the Kurds is a missused story that will lead to war unless the reasons for the attacks are made known.
GI Joe is Rove's parting shot. Thanks Connecticut. Let's hope Maine wakes up and gets rid of Snowe and Collins.
anon @ 59:
And I too understand since you are correct...When/if reported, I can almost see the
U.S. Media Headlines..."Iran invade Iraq Without Cause."
anon @ 59:
Yes, take this story, then roll it into a tortilla of lies. What do we get? Our next 'State of the Union Address'.
It seems so fu*king cold to use the day of 9-11 to talk about war. Wonder what the 9-11 families will think about this? I know what I think, and it's not good. Now that Vick has plead guilty to the dog fighting charges, maybe he would like to do a tour in Iraq rather than go to jail. He's such a tough guy and all. He'd probably wet his pants if they sent him over there. It's more difficult to be a tough guy when someone is shooting at you and trying to blow you up. Kinda different from killing dogs in your backyard.
Doggiebobo @ 61:
A more appropriate headline would be..."Bush and Pentagon say Iran without justification,
attack Kruds in Northern Iraq".
Airstrikes against Iran will surely commence before the 9/11 speech. By the time speech is given, we will need to be past the point of no return.
I had ten bucks on Syria for the next occupation ... this is good news.
pissed off patricia @ 63:
Bah. Vick's spaghetti ankle would give out on his second day in country and he'd sit on the bench the rest of the war.
Weaseldog @ 65:
Certainly in time for congress to vote their overwhelming approval.
Weaseldog @ 65:
Not sure if military actions will be taken against Iran before 9/11/07...you know, it'll
have to be taken before the UN Security Council and disCUSSed for a very, very, very
long time...inasmuch as that body is, as we know, notoriously slow in acting and if
they use good judgement and common sense, do NOT believe what our UN Rep. is
telling them. Past history should be a basis for this approach.
Finally, a report on Iraq on CNN.
Levin and Warner are there calling for the resignation of Malarki.
No mention of him being in Syria like reported on BBC.
Our media sucks.
getalife @ 70:
I'll second, third and fourth that statment...and drink a fifth to it also.
Doggiebobo @ 69:
Why does it have to be taken before the UN Security Council? That sounds like thinking from the last century.
The Neocons laugh at the UN and use international treaties for the same purposes as the US Consititution, ie: toilet paper.
Do you know who is President now? Hint, it's not Jimmy Carter....
Rusty Shackleford @ 30:
You'll never attract a hunky life guard that way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuIaCQjh9jk
Of course it doesn't always work either.
Weaseldog @ 72:
My thought process and/or rational of "it" going before the UN Security Council was
because in order to seek approval and a "coalition", bush-lite would at a minimum want
to seek that organizations approval...I could be wrong tho.
Doggiebobo @ 74:
Yeah, but I don't think we'll get a coalition on this one. Israel however might be willing to pitch in.
With the Brits looking for an exit strategy, the US is going to have a coalition of one in Iraq anyway. Our next President is likely to be someone that wants to prove that they can defeat Iraq. Bush will think its funny to leave a big stinking mess behind when he goes.
I don't believe that we should even worry about any rational strategy. I do not believe that Bush will consider a rational strategy.
Any resemblance of Sen. Joe Lieberman to Bill the Cat is purely intentional. Ack!
I am convinced that Lieberman is insane. He is losing it to dementia. The voters of Conneticutt need to declare him mentally incompetent and recall him. He is out of his mind.
Yellow Elephant Safari @ 15:
Judeo Christian Heritage yada yada yada......
Paul @ 77:
Yeah, but unfortunately, there is about as much chance as that happening as it is that
"our U.S. Congress will initiate Impeachement Proceedings against Gonzo/Cheney/bush-lite.
Note to Lieberman STFU. Just STFU!!
A friend's son is stationed on the Iraq/Syria border making sure no one is coming across. If Joe is right, he just called my friend's son a lousy soldier.
Paul @ 77:
He is a zionist. I remember an interview with Ben Stein about being a jew in hollywood and did it matter. He essentially said of course it mattered. There was nothing he did that he didnt think about the 'tribe' - his word. I expect Ben Stein isnt alone in this.
Lieberman is orthodox. Lieberman is following a zionist/Israeli playbook.
anon @ 82:
You failed, did you not, to include that LIE-berman is a spineless, circumcised, little
prick?
Doggiebobo @ 83:
There are people who see Israel as special - not just some (not all) jews. Pat Robertson is in that group. (He is an old testament christian - which is like trying to be both a jew and a christian simultaneously).
Lieberman is swine. Pollack was swine. Spineless? I dont know. I think he is taking positions that are clearly in the interests of Israel and not in the interest of Connecticut. In many ways, he is cutting off his nose to further the interests of the zionists.
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As a note - I hope I have this name right - Pollack was a US citizen working in government that sold an amazing amount if information to Israel as a spy.
Lieberman is an Orthodox Jew. By extention, he hates all Muslims and any Muslim countries.
Why is it that if you are anti-Israel, you're anti-Semetic, but if you're anti-(insert any other country here) you're just expressing an opinion?
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Rusty Shackleford @ 11:
LOL, but honestly Rusty, what are the odds? 2-1, 4:5 - very limited payoff.
That's why I went with Turkmenistan - 300 to 1, $10 gets me $3,000.
anon @ 84:
How could Lieberman be swine? He's an Orthodox Jew.
Jason W. @ 87:
When they label you an "anti-semite" it means they dont have an arguement, they want to ignore the facts and go on the attack, ending the discussion by labeling you an "anti-semite". And Israelies today have no genetic inheritance to the land so they're really not semetic at all.
no amazement here. syria is next in line on the neocon(job) list after all. why shouldn't the good closeted neocon speak out about it. why with wolfie gone and all someone has to pick up that yoke and work it. macho joe seems the likely candidate thanks to repube voters in his home state. and like coultergeist, joe cant stay out of the headlines too long lest he be forgotten.
If I looked as good as Lieberman does in a helmet, I'd want to expand a war too.
What a stud.
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LIE-berman and the Bush Crime Faimily will have The USA into another war in the Middle East befor they leave office wheather it is Syria or Iran. These people like LIE-berman and Bush are not been satified with all of the BLOOD SPILED In the Middle East yet LIE-berman and his AIPAC buddies are willing to spill more AMERICAN Blood. Lats Question WHY is not LIE-berman SON in a UNIFORM?
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Arroyo @ 88:
Even money, Arroyo - even money.
I have lost a lot of respect for the people of Connecticut for voting this guy in.
It is so obvious the Lieberman just seems to be in the back pocket of Israel, which makes sense given his own background. Everything he suggests would benefit Israel and not necessarily the U.S.
It just amazes me that Connecticut would vote in a guy who really seems to be doing nothing more than pushing Israeli's agenda. Who funded this guy to get re-elected?
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