Take this interview and, well, Tucker Carlson.
By bluegal Tuesday Sep 11, 2007 1:44pmTucker Carlson had the chutzpah to insinuate to Dennis Kucinich that meeting with the Syrian leadership was unAmerican and cavorting with the enemy. Nevermind that Congressman Kucinich was checking up on the over 1.5 million Iraqi refugees that our war-based-on-a-lie has placed firmly in the Syrian front yard. One point five million. No other country has taken in more Iraqi refugees, refugees from the direct result of our invasion, than Syria.
Be sure to catch the incredulity of the Syrian interviewer when she asks (at about 7:09)
Q: "So does George Bush actually not see himself as having failed in Iraq? Does he think he has done something right?"
A: [Obviously straining at choosing just the right words] "I would expect that... he probably believes... that he is doing the right thing."
Kudos, Mr. Kucinich, for reining in your desire to yell, "Well duh! The Preznit's a borderline dominionist neocon, what do you expect?" The congressman gives a nice slap to Halliburton in this one, too.
Login or Register to post comments.
Tucker, Fristed
How long will he be allowed to live?
I'm beginning to like Kucinich more and more.
By visiting Syria, he's doing opposite what the Neo-cons want which is to fire first with weapons or tough rhetoric and negotiate on their own terms later.
But he's going in the right direction to start a dialogue going between the Middle East. Something that hasn't happened since day 1 of the Bush administration.
Congratulations, Dennis! You're a man with alot of courage, hutzpah, and honesty. You also have alot of class as demonstrated in your interview.
Tucker, STFU...
statesmanship and diplomacy, wow what a concept. we will not see it again until after 2008, unless certain repubes win.
Tucker would run away and get his buddy and go back and kick Syria's ASS!
Dennis Kucinich is the Man.
And his wife is hot.
That is all.
What honesty, what a LEADER. When I hear Kucinich, I hear hope. I feel like Kucinich represents what we can become.
But if we admit we were wrong, that's like bad... or something.
In order for the world to continue to take us seriously, we can't admit fault! Otherwise they won't support our next war like they did in Iraq!
Oh wait, they don't and they didn't.
NM
Wouldn't it be great if Kucinich could do a similar, thoughtful, informed interview on US television? Maybe even without sputtering interuptions "but...but... what about America's Honor!?"
nice to have a voice of reason for once.
I spent the last 3 hours listening to him on Ed Schultz.
Not that I needed convincing, but he is what this country needs.
He's entirely right about nearly everything he says here--and it's a major positive for America for people like him to tell the Arab world that there are a great many of us who disagree with the President's actions. But does he need to kiss Assad's ass as much as he did? I mean, the guy's a bloody tyrant who runs one of the nastiest police states in the world. Couldn't he show appreciation for Syria's role in adopting Iraq's refugees while voicing some solidarity with the dissidents and democrats fighting for basic rights in Syria and Lebanon?
Kucinich tells it like it is. He's a got the right vision for finding the path to peace. He might need to tone down his rhetoric just a tad to make it more palatable: "it was based on a lie" may seem like a bitter pill for some, no matter the truth of it. I really like that he has the ability to clearly define the need for multi-lateral dialogue and a return to positive relations with and support for a strongly functional U.N.
Most importantly, as the interviewer recognized, he's a man with a kind and compassionate heart and he has a sense of the deep hurt and injustice the so many innocent Iraqis have had to endure.
But THIS is okay:
Old enemies kiss in triangle of death
The town of Yusufiyah was among the most dangerous places in Iraq as Sunni fighters clashed regularly with coalition troops. But new tactics have changed the dynamics. Car bombings are down, the capture of insurgents is up. And Col. Michael Kershaw now greets his former enemies with kisses and shares meals.
Is this what Dominists like Tucker Carlson's into?
http://www.msservalan.com/images/Img0233.jpg
I myself am, what guys here would call, a rightwingnut --- although a European one. I do not like Mr. Kucinich Leftist economics, nor anyone's for that matter, but this was a deed of a good man.
I saw this vid @ LGF & HotAir, the radical anti-Islamsites. They slaughtered Kucinich most unfairly. It was clear to me, that this guy was sincere and ashamed of a bad foreign policy. Mr. Kucinich was not unAmerican here, he was trying to make up.
If people try to slander and smear this guy for being humane, he must consider the insults put upon him as a trophy. His 'strength through peace' mantra is a bit cheesy, but at least he's no neocon warmonger aching for next battle installments against Iran, Syria and the rest of the Evil world.
I love the US. Hopefully guys like Kucinich and Ron Paul can put some sense into your foreign policy makers.
Peace
The Kuciniches also just finished with a three-hour radio show with Ed Schultz. Both of them were brilliant and well-spoken. Elizabeth Kucinich could likely be a great candidate herself if she had been born in the US (though she has such a pleasant voice that really benefits from the accent, so I'll take that as compensation for her only being his closest advisor, which is quite appealing in and of itself).
Jimmy @ 16:
Wow. speaking of honest....
Tucker Carlson is a putz, and a lot of worse things than that. I'm looking forward to the day when this country will get reasonable again and those pundits will be out of business.
The syrian TV program was brilliant in choosing an attractive young woman that looks like his wife to interview him.
Kucinich has my support and spoke the truth. He didnt help his cause however. He did the right thing by attacking the root causes and errors involved in the war, but failed to address those 30% of the americans that have personally and emotionally invested themselves in the very thing he was attacking. By not making the distinction by speaking directly to them in some way, his attacks will be personalized and be seen as attacks on them. By not doing so, he made enemies - generational enemies. This interview will likely be their means of identifying kucinich from now through history - Bill Clinton = blow job, Ted Kennedy = drunk, Kucinich = collaborator etc.
My admiration for Kucinich has reached new heights. He has real courage to go on Syrian TV and tell the truth bluntly. That's one thing Americans hate, is when one of our own is critical of us when they are over seas. THANK YOU DENNIS.
His trip is only simbolic however, we all know his view of the region is not going to be implemented by Bush Co.
It would have been more interesting for Kuchinch to try to explain
to the Syrian that Bush thinks he was appointed by Jesus.....
So, OF COURSE he thinks he's infallible.
Funny, the Republic's love to rail about Religious Fanatics..
Kind of the textbook definition of that disease is you think the Almighty
chose YOU of all people to execute his will....
Jimmy @ 16:
'Strength Through Peace' is essentially a martial arts mantra. It may be cheesy, but it is a universal truth. Even Sun Tzu addresses the philosophy of victory through peace.
Manliness doesn't come from slaughtering families with bombs and automatic machine gun fire. It comes from the daily trials and tribulations of life lived with honor and integrity.
It only appears cheesy for those that think that they have something to prove with false bravado.
At the very least, he conveyed to Syrians--and thus to other countries in that area--that most of us Americans are good people. We're as imprisoned by bad government as a lot of others around the globe.
I had forgotten what a non-adversarial interview looks like. I didn't realize that i had become so accustomed to interviewers being openly hostile to their guests.
Jimmy @ 16:
Kucinich's economics speak against the current fascist system in the US. Europe historically confuses fascism with capitalism. Kucinich does not.
Ron Paul has nothing usefull to say really. He would simply cause harm from the inside out rather than Bush's method from the outside in. They are two sides of the same coin really. Both would destroy the US.
If you are looking for the spine of the Democratic Party, look no further. If the left blogosphere doesn't start supporting this candidate, they will become part of the problem. Wake up Markos! Wake up Duncan! Wake up Christy! Wake up Jane! Wake up Digby! Wake up Glenn! Wake up Armando!
WAKE UP FROM YOUR SLEEP!!!!!!!
anon @ 20:
Syria is well known in the mid-east for having beautiful women. Shannon Elizabeth is Syrian.
One of the keys to peace is bridging the divide between our cultures. It always amazes me how all the news programs bring American "experts" and journalists to discuss Mid-East issues, without ever having someone from the Mid-East as a guest. Satelite technology is nothing futuristic. This is the 21 century, we are all connected, the news shows should frequently have journalists and others from Syria, Iran, Jordan, Lebanon, etc.
Spare me the Neo-Leftist Bushitlerburton talking points; I keep a copy in the bathroom in case of emergency. Kucinich is a bonafide moron. And anybody that agrees with anything conjured between his two living neurons must share something in common with him. If he is so interested in Constitutional integrity then I suggest he take a look at the section covering the definition of treason and turn himself in immediately He is a treasonous fool and should be given the full sentence for his treason. And throw in a violation of the Logan Act for good measure to spare the rest of us of his 'ideas'.
Any animal in nature, political party or human society that is too stupid to recognize a threat to its well-being or fails to react in defense against it does not deserve to continue to exist.
Harm to foreign policy ?? I don't care what Cuba, Syria, Iran, China, Russia, Zimbavwe, Libya, France, Algeria, Sudan, Egypt, Pakistan, South Africa, The Congo, Tanzania, Haiti, Venezuela, Columbia, Mexico, Canada or any of the other ungrateful European countries our anscestors couldn't stand to be in think about us. All I care about is that they are scared sh*&less of us. Now that's foreign policy. I mean why don't these people mess with China? Because they know that the Chinese won't sit and whine like women or children with booboo's on their kness. They will stomp them into a mudhole and not care one iota what the world thinks.
To paraphrase Machiavelli, when given the choice between being loved or feared I choose fear; it is far safer. And keep in mind that when the US started thumping the big stick against the biggest and baddest the Arab world had then it wasn't long before Libya gave up nukes, Syria left Lebanon and now the North Koreans are softening.
And I can give you 444 reasons we should be wiping Iran off the map. Is there a statute of limitation on an act of war ? Or how should we respond to a nation that has considered itself at war with us for 27 years ?
OT, but the repigs are at it again!
http://rawstory.com//news/2007/Purged_voter_rolls_could_swing_2008_0912....
Nirav @ 12:
You see, it's called diplomacy. It's a very simple process...
Step 1) Find common ground. Praise your diplomatic partner's strong points and build a relationship on the aspects you share.
Step 2) Soberly discuss the areas of the relationship that precipitate the need for diplomacy in the first place.
Jesus people, if everyone got along (read: stopped stomping on each other to make a buck) in the first place we wouldn't need diplomacy. If we'd use real diplomacy (backed up by, but not based on our strength as a nation), which involves COMPROMISE, we could avoid 90% of the bloodshed that happens. If we only fought wars to stop aggression, instead of wars OF aggression, we'd be able to actually EFFECTIVELY USE the strategy of overwhelming and sudden force ("Shock and Awe") that our military is designed to apply.
None of this will happen if we don't elect diplomats. The presidents primary role in this country should be as the face of foreign policy. The primary diplomat.
Seeing as how this country seems riddled with bloodlust (look at our entertainment) tinged with anti-world-involvement paranoia (ignoring the fact the "one world government" of wealth-and-blood based influence already exists, with or without our vote), our hopes are dim.
There are two paths we can follow as citizens of this country: the broad and easy path of the shambling oil-zombies, bound for certain destruction, or the straight and narrow path of contrition, reduction of our international footprint, and reconcilliation with our "enemies".
George Bush is the antichrist.
Vote Kucinich!
IOpian @ 29:
What are YOU smoking?
There's a difference between being feared and being spurned.
Che's Lounge @ 27:
Bingo.
IOpian @ 29:
Great, go buy a rifle and do it yourself. History will vindicate you.
IOpian @ 29:
The world destroys countries that are hated - the US is becoming hated.
You seem to think the US is in control of its future - it isnt. You need to study sovereign wealth funds ...
http://www.economist.com/printedition/displayStory.cfm?story_id=9230598&...
... they own you son. You do understand they are teaching school children chinese in chicago schools dont you? Life under the decider, shutup go to work and - he told you this after 9/11 - spend money.
Iopian = mind limited
IOpian @ 29:
when has that sort of thinking ever worked for a nation in the long term?
hadenuf @ 34:
Bingo, Bango, Bongo and Irving of The Mosquitoes?
Hmmph!
Looks to me like Kuchinich is heading, nay, running down the path to be deemed an illegal enemy combatant.
Furthermore, the Executive Order from July 17th allows the government to seize the assets of anyone who basically gets in the way of the Iraq policy.
What country is this, anyway?
Weaseldog @ 23:
Quoted because it bears repeating.
As for me, Kucinich is looking not only more and more unelectable but like someone who shouldn't be elected president. With a calm, reasonable vision for foreign policy like this, the U.S., Iraq, and the world at large are going to seriously benefit from Secretary of State Kucinich. He would also do a world of good for the U.S.'s image and foreign relations problems.
IOpian @ 29:
Exactly, IMPEACH BUSH!
I would say it was because China never attacked them... but it was probably because they're pussies, you're right.
Yeah, except it was the French who softened Libya, and the South Koreans who have been persuing a peace plan that our president almost fucked up last week (based mostly on a shared mutual resentment of the U.S creation of the current quagmire).
Jesus, we've been at war with them for 27 years and they're still not gone. We SHOULD nuke them, there's NO OTHER CHOICE!!! AAAAAAAAH! You can save the other 443, that's all I need.
IOpian @ 29:
Hmm, my post never appeared.
Sovereign wealth funds own you ...
http://www.economist.com/printedition/displayStory.cfm?story_id=9230598&...
... you arent feared, you are used and owned.
Bush is an internationalist. All that is happening in SW asia benefits both Saudi Arabia and the oil companies more than you or the american people.
Is there some reason my posts are being blocked?
[The spam filter caught it for some reason. I'm leaving it there for now for the tech people-Sitemonitor]
@Dale
Thnx
@Weaseldog
Well, I have no false bravado. Ask my girlfriend. So, she just falsified your theory, there. ;)
@Anon
Fascism = corporatism. We, Europeans, are not that different from you guys. Most of you Lefties would feel quite at home here. Ron Paul's libertarian economics are not fascist. Please don't bore me with this nonsense. Get some education, lose the ideology.
@IOpian
Look, from a power perspectieve, it's better to be feared than to be loved --- True. In that sense you're right. However, you forget the old saying 'hybris timoresetai', pride will be avenged. The US can behave like a world power alpha male in the Middle East for a very long time. However, someday the beta males will come together and make a plan to topple the alpha male tyranny. This is what Al-Qa'ida is trying to do. And Iran. And the Saudis. And many other Islamic groups.
Read these books
- Dr. Pape's "Dying to Win"
- Mearseheimer's "The tragedy of great power politics"
- William S. Lind's theory of Fourth Generational warfare (4GW)
- Martin Van Creveld's "Transformation of War"
I do NOT equate the US with a tyrant, I love the US. However, the rest of the world does not love the US anymore. This is because of your foreign policy. You may not WANT to care, but for your own good you must LEARN to care.
IOpian @ 29:
27 years? You sure it isn't 54 years?
Kucinich's economics speak against the current fascist system in the US. Europe historically confuses fascism with capitalism. Kucinich does not.
Ron Paul has nothing usefull to say really. He would simply cause harm from the inside out rather than Bush's method from the outside in. They are two sides of the same coin really. Both would destroy the US.
... is what I said.
Learn to read Jimmy. I studied physics under nobel prize winners (Willis Lamb). I dont need that advice.
My fascism comment wasnt targeted at Paul. But there is a connection.
Just to make it easy for you - destroying the valid function of government exposes the public to the predation of the aristocracy and corporations. Paul isnt specifically a fascist but would implement policies that would result in it.
SonOfLiberty @ 31:
Diplomacy is a good thing. My issue with this interview is that it isn't diplomacy, which is the controlled exercise of power; it's PR, which is making people like you more, which is only half the game (if that).
It's useful to start by improving relations with Syria, but once you--as a Congressman and representative of the American people on foreign soil--do the favor of praising the Assad regime's role in accepting Iraqi refugees, you're uniquely empowered to temper that praise with some reality. The reality is that Assad is a force of oppression throughout the Middle East, particularly in his country and in Lebanon. If I were from the Cleveland area, I would gag at seeing my elected representative offering untempered praise of a guy like that. If I were a Lebanese or Syrian dissident who had been tortured by the state police or locked up and "disappeared," it'd probably bother me even more.
Kucinich (and Son of Liberty) seems to think that if we all talked we'd all get along. We'd certainly get along better, but you could have a million heart-to-hearts on Syrian TV and Assad would still get off on electrocuting and assassinating his political enemies. If you hate torture here, it's condescending (and probably a little racist) to think it's any more appropriate in Syria.
So my question remains: Why didn't Kucinich just mention that Assad's record on human rights is despicable? He could have done so directly to a Syrian audience, and used the political capital he gained in his meeting with Assad for some actual good.
Dagvald @ 13:
While some, especially the rethugs, may label it "rhetoric", there is nothing wrong with telling the truth and stating facts. The Iraq war is/was based on a lie. That's a fact. Apologists will try to paint Bush as a naive, well intentioned good guy, but the fact is that he worked hard to silence those who knew that Iraq had no WMD. You can't say that he had good intentions and was misled when he tried so hard to hide the truth. It defies basic logic.
I can't believe people still think that "it was based on a lie" is rhetoric. Huh?
@Anon
First, I didn't come here to pick a fight, or even debate. I'm not a native anglophone speaker so I used the phrase wrongly. I wasn't refering to your academic education, but your economical education (and ideology).
Second, I'm not going to debate economics to Leftists, because it's useless anyway. If you fear 'the predation of aristocracy and corporations', then I'm surprised you don't fear your government just as much. (And yes, I'm aware of the Chomsky view of the world. It's not mine though. He's got some pointers on terrorism and foreign policy though.)
Third, peace is more important then anything else, and I would put peace before economics anytime. This is why I posted a comment. I think Mr. Kucinich did a very brave and good thing --- he should be praised, not loathed.
A part of the tragedy in this war is the refugee problem. While American kids head back to school, there are reports saying hundreds of Iraqi Kids have not been to school in over three years and also at present is the constant flow of refugees into Syria at the rate of about 2,000 per day. Syria is now considering setting up tents on the border with Iraq because they cannot accommodate anymore within the country.
I do like the idea/tactic of changing the dialogue to "What has gone right in Iraq?"
If you talk about what's gone wrong, then the list is long and the conversation devolves into quibbles about whether any particular failure is really that bad (cf. 18 benchmarks). If you start asking what has gone right, then it's a much simpler discussion that gets right to the point: barely anything.
anon @ 42:
I'm guessing "user error."
anon @ 20:
Sometimes I wonder where rethugs get their ideas. Is it possible that people such as yourself supply them with the material they need?
Those 30% you speak of are ideologically shut off. NOTHING can change their minds. Even if Kucinich adopted Bush's talking points his motives would still be "questionable". Those 30% are a religious following. And just like some follow religion with blind faith, these follow their "messiah" Bush with blind faith. Make no mistake about that.
PS: Stop feeding potential trolls.
IOpian @ 29:
Actually, the Chinese heavily invest in diplomacy. That is how they are beating us out in oil contracts at advantageous pricing. We usually bullying tactics and don't have the pricing locked in. That's why for us, we're up to $80/Barrel.
Now fear may work well in your own home and social circle, but out in the big bad world, threatening everyone you meet, will eventually get you killed.
At the very least Kuncinich will be shown to households in Syria and prevent distraught youths from joining terror groups. If more people like Kuncinich spoke on Arabic television the Middle East would be a less violent place, but when they see how our MSM treats people like Kuncinich they will lose hope.
Trim your posts. Really long posts don't go through. And you don't get a message that they are rejected.
IOpian @ 29:
You've got some anger management problems. Go home --> Nutterville
Dennis is a playa. That girl totally wanted to screw him.
Kucinich 08! He is Americas best hope. We the people need to get behind him and spread his message. No Replublican, nor Clinton or Obama, will bring the real change America needs. The people need to take hold of this democracy. Kucinich 08!!
Kevin Simms @ 55:
Dammit, I was curious and clicked. Now I need a shower.
One of these days Tucker Carlson is going to say the wrong thing to the wrong person and he is going to get his ass handed to him. He is so repugnant.
IO-you have a very twisted way of looking at the world. You must be a very miserable person. I pity you.
I am a kucinich man up until the end. I will support whoever grabs his policies and offers him a job in a high level cabinet post.
Weaseldog @ 2:
Think John Kennedy or less.
This alone shows that you have no idea what you're talking about. Iraq was the softest target. They didn't even have an air force. Libya caved in due to decade long economic sanctions. Your post is as informed and coherent as Miss Teen South Carolina's response when asked why 1/5th of Americans can't find the U.S. on a map.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww
IOpian @ 29:
Spare us your rabid saber rattling, warlover. Or better yet, go join the Army and take 'em on yourself, Rambo.
My wife and I and some friends and relatives will vote for Dennis Kucinich. We hope our votes count.
That counted vote makes us all extremely nervous, considering the past 7+ years. It would be nice to have someone like him LEADING this country.
It would be nice to actually see a smile instead of the constant 'smirk'.
We desperately need Al-Jazeera TV in this country. It was created in the 90s by the best and brightest of the BBC producers who saw a need for balanced news in the ME. The ME overlords fought it initially. Big time.
But If you've ever watched it outside of this country, you would be as angry as shit that we are refused access to this network on our cables. The only broadcast network with an Ethics Code.
anon @ 42:
Lack of fibre?
Jimmy @ 47:
The current failure of government and cause for concern is due in large part to poor stewardship by the voters and current control by the very people and groups I alluded to earlier.
Individuals like yourself cannot protect themselves from these thugs. It takes the collective action of the representatives of the voters to do so - otherwise its predation for profit. Its true that government to be good needs stewardship. It is also true that government isnt the threat in the end, its that element from the jungle - zero sum social darwinists (ZSSD - my acronym) - that are the threat. It is as you know as a european this group of ZSSD's that ultimately become royal. If history teaches us nothing else government when it represents and serves the voters protects the voters from this very group.
Dont paint me with a trivial brush - leftist. You have no idea what my position is vis a vis wealth. What I will tell you is this - the era of the self made man is over. Societal infrastructures leverage personal efforts resulting in accomplishment. No accomplishment today - anywhere - occurs absent this infrastructure. The argument commonly made by many that they are 'self made' is incorrect and impossible. All personal achievement is on top of an infrastructure that is collective in nature. The destruction of that infrastructure will inevitably reduce personal accomplishment accross the board. Either you have gene or croney based supports or you will need a societal intrastructure. History has chosen against gene/croney based preferences as have I.
I love this man
I really do
He's done what no other candidate is willing to do
TALK
I can hear the wingnuts now: "He is a traitor!! Talking badly about his country to Syria!! He spoke poorly about Bush and disagreed with his policy in a foreign land. He should be tried and hanged!!" The fact that he is speaking the truth means nothing to them, nor are they concerned for the ruined Iraqi lives.
Claiming that Dems are like al Qaida becomes less insulting when you think about what the GOP stands for: death, restriction on speech and idolitry.
Rusty Shackleford @ 44:
Is overthrowing a democratically elected government (like project AJAX) and act of war, terrorism, or both?
Thing Fish @ 68:
It's an act of patriotism, by gum!!
Congressman Kucinich is getting a lot of hatemail at his page on congress.org.
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/bio/?id=468
The wingnuts are out in force!
It would be nice to see some nice stuff there if anyone has the time.
Does anyone know the secular make-up of the 1.5 million Iraqi refugees in Syria? % Sunni? % Shite?
Weaseldog @ 58:
You can mouseover suspect links and see where they lead you. Saves a lot of time, and that nasty feeling you get thinking about the cookies your browser is holding... :)
Rusty Shackleford @ 69:
Now how can we argue with that. I think we are all indebted to
Gabby JohnsonIOpian here for clearly stating what had to be said. And I'm glad the children were here today to hear that speech. Not only was it authentic frontier gibberish...but it expressed a courage that is little seen in this day and age.I have been listening to Kucinch and his wife on the Ed SChultz show today, very impressive, both he and his wife are genuine people, she is particularly immpressive. I will probably vote for him in the primaries, if not it will be Edwards. I think edwards and Kucinich make a great team and would bring democracy back to this country.
jkb @ 72:
Kucinich does not cower before the wingnuts or cave in when they try to put labels on him. He speaks his mind, he speaks the truth and ignores the rightwing attacks. Too bad there aren't more dems with such guts.
Don't any of you mess with Tucker! He's hot. I'm not gay but I'm one conservative Republican who wants a hot man on man on man love threesome with Tucker and Hannity. Ohhhhhh, yeah! We'll bring out the love oils and lube it on up and GIT-IT-ON!!!
You're next O'Reilly!!! BWAH-AH-AH-AHHHHH!!!
When you hear Kucinich talk it is increasingly difficult to listen to the tortured
rhetoric of people like Obama and Clinton.
borderline dominionist neocon?
that is a strong cup of coffee.
" PEACE" that's crazy talk boy, the military industrial complex and media whores on CNN, Fox, NBC, CBS , ABC, are not interested in "PEACE" , look what Happen to Weldon, Colby, Kennedy, King. There ain't any money in peace, why else isn't Kucinich on Blitzer's show, instead of Council on Foreign Relations, William Cohen, who's only goal is to destabilize, over throw if necessary, ANY government that doesn't fall into lockstep with U.S./Foreign Policy .
Why else is cable FULL of retired Generals on, Colonels, CIA spooks, promoting one idea, WAR in the Middle East. At the same time working for Arms Manufacturers .
Even the Democratic " leadership" don't want all ALL troops to be removed from IRAQ,Barak Obama wants troops in Iraq to " protect out interest" . Code for Bankers and OIL people .
kucinich speaks for the majority, of the people who want a total withdrawal from IRAQ .
that tucker is a pandoras box. He supports libertarian ideals, steadfast support of Ron Paul, but he spews BS. Kucinich would make for a fine president. He and RP are the only ones speaking real truths. Don't get hung up on the fake right-left paradigm. RP 2008!!!
Elect this guy. Please.
Kucinich has shown repeatedly that he wants what the majority of Americans want which is peace. We all want the next president to come in and fix all of the mistakes made during the Bush administration but to be realistic, I think that's going to take more than one term. But getting out of the war will allow reallocation of the war funding to go back into other important programs. We won't be able to fix anything without fixing the war first and Kucinich knows this.
He also is shining a huge beacon on the fact that Syria is a country of compassion and should be our ally. Once we get rid of dubya maybe we can see that happen as well. I know the right have lots of negativity toward President Assad but at least he is trying to help those 1.5 million people while our president is working his way toward killing an equal number.
I find myself leaning more and more toward Kucinich and this may have put him over the top with me.
I have spent a lot of time studying the train wreck of American policies , foreign and domestic. Kucinich is the polar opposite of Bush. His presidency would open the wellspring of American goodness that we have not seen our lifetime. Unfortunately, I cannot vote, I can only watch from Canada, with hope that America will come to its senses before Fascism takes root.
Syria is doing America a big favor by taking on a million Iraqi refugees.
Dan Abrams keeps Tucker on the air because his ratings look good in comparison to Tucker's. Tucker is trying to get brownie points from mouth-breather blogs and radio shows
Che's Lounge @ 27:
Indeed. Those puppets have always been part of the problem. There's no incentive for the Democratic Party to represent liberal values if they know they can always count on the Left's unconditional support. Cheerleading for the party, no matter what it stands for, only allows it to slide further right. Most mainstream bloggers are as cowardly and corrupt as mainstream journalists. It's good to see C&L giving coverage to the only real liberal running. We need more outspoken liberal voices. Keep it up folks.
jr@91
Wont work. Tucker is too macho for all the swishes that act tough in the GOP.
now i can understand what his wife elizabeth saw in him. his compasson and peaceful nature. his wife work for mother teresa clinic in india among the poorest of the poor. she also work with a ophanage in tazania. not only that she had a degree in international politic.
I listened to all three hours of the Ed Schultz interview. He unquestioningly has my vote! What a straight shooter. He didn't mince a word, and showcased -- did ya hear me? -- he was showing off (as in "proud of") being a hard-line progressive. Without a doubt the best candidate!
The Congress think that IMPEACHMENT will cause more divisions in our nation. Well Duh....The division IS 70% of the population of United States demands IMPEACHMENT. The other 30% including the rubber-stamp 110th Congress seems to be in the minority.
IF this is TRULY a national DEMOCRACY, the 70% majority would have won the debate and the IMPEACHMENT would have gone forward long ago. The Congress is complicit in enabling the MADNESS to continue futhermore they too have broken their oath to protect and preserve our Constitution and FAILED to enforce the LAW. The law says that If the government official abuses it power or committed a grave disaster or even a crime, the Congress is bound by the law to exercise it's duty to begin IMPEACHMENT proceeding to protect our nation and security. With every passing days, the Congressional institution will be seen just as guilty for NOT stopping the tyrants at the White House.
The only ONE Congressperson who remained loyal to the US Constitution and One that had done an empeccable job representing AMERICA completely. ........That is Congressman Dennis Kucinich. His voting records and political stands speaks for itself. He continued to work for AMERICA even when Congress Session is on Time-out and even when the other candidates are busy raising campaign funds.
Dennis Kucinich has been mocked for his physical image, but frankly he has PROVEN that he is much taller, much balanced, much fairer, much progressive, with alot of backbone than the other "SPINELESS" candidates who has alot of rhetorics and promises without any actions to prove it.
Kucinich - Gravel 2008
"94 boxerfan"
Another 2some. Vote one in and get one for free. I like that!
From the destruction of our civil liberties, to global warming, to the loss of biodiversity, to the build-up of hostilities against us, it's really quite simple. Either we elect Kucinich or we're all fucked. Even if you don't think things can get much worse, I urge you to vote on the side of caution.
[...] last week while visiting the region as part of a peace initiative and fact-finding tour - and, as Bluegal points out, to check up on the over 1 million Iraqi refugees living in Syria. It’s causing quite [...]
Dr. Acula @ 30:
If they would purge 100% of the voters from Texas and Idaho-- and Connecticut-- (and maybe a few other states, but not to get greedy) I'd be all for it. But, I see they're targeting Vermont and other nice places.
So what's the big problem if he talks to Syrian TV? He's a "free man" from a "free country", and didn't reveal any "state secrets". They've taken in 1 1/2 million Iraqi refugees (that Washington doesn't seem to know about) and deserve to know what's going on. The neo-cons spit venom about all things Syrian, yet send secret CIA planes in, with "political prisoners", to be "interrogated" in prisons, using torture, and everyone knows. What the F---???
Nirav @ 48:
Kucinich is a congressman, not the president. He has no actual foreign policy making power. He probably also recognizes that a continuous hardline U.S. stance against Assad hasn't done shit to unseat him, and fuels the very rhetoric that keeps his people from deposing him. Change in any society needs to come from within, and if the people there feel that their leadership would be replaced with the stooges of a nation that is diplomatically hostile to them (let alone interested in fostering the restoration of order) they aren't going to be eager to attempt a regime change.
You'll also note that the video has many cuts in it. These cuts could very well be segments where Kucinich addressed the issues you speak of. You see, in some ass-backward nations, the media is complicit in government cherry-picking of information.
And finally, the people of Syria have been inundated with 1.5 million penniless Iraqi refugees, now shambling about their country. This was a direct result of American foreign policy (100%: We put Saddam in, then destabilized the country when we ousted him). I doubt we have much credibility in their eyes to criticize ANYTHING at this point, which is why we need to focus on BUILDING CREDIBILITY with them in the first place.
Just because we say nice things to them doesn't mean we are their butt-buddy. Kucinich didn't sign any treaties. Don't worry, we can still nuke them.
Right on Edwin.
Exactly.
My lengthy and well-thought-out reply was eaten by teh intarwebz. Therefore, I'm just going to summarize it. I don't want you to think I don't take your considerations seriously, because I have the same reservations about diplomacy myself.
a) The video was obviously not un-cut. There's no way to tell if they cut all his negative remarks from the interview. I know it's hard to believe, but in some countries, the media is complicit with the government in cherry-picking facts and statements to support their agenda! Somebody should probably ask Kucinich if that's the case.
b) Kucinich is a representative, he does not have any power in developing foreign policy. He's trying to make inroads NOW so that when/if he gains that power, he'll have someplace to start rebuilding our relationship. As it is, threats and insults would only be ego stroking, with no real effect.
c) Our president makes constant threats of war against Syria. Syria is inundated with 1.5 million refugees from a war we are 100% responsible for (toppling a dictator that WE (the U.S.) installed, to control a region WE (the West) drew the borders of). Do you honestly think we have any more credibility with them than Saddam Hussain had with US?
Diplomacy is not a Debate. You aren't trying to win an argument, you're trying to end the argument.
Also, if both parties in a diplomatic resolution don't feel like they've reached the compromise on their own (as opposed to being bullied), the resolution is pretty much useless.
The Bush "foreing policy" is totally focused on building support for military action among OUR populace. Look at what they're doing with Iran. If the leader of our country is constantly belittling and inciting violence against the Iranians. Given Iran's stance that they will NOT allow American military might to determine their destiny, damn the consequences, the ONLY conceivable purpose for his rhetoric is to incite the American people against them and incite them against the American people. He is trying to push them into making a stupid move so he can put the stamp on his commitment to move us into a war.
People in the Middle East are our enemies because we MADE them our enemies. If we even spent a fraction of the time and money we spent getting where we are today on making them our friends again, we'd stand a pretty good chance. Extremists make everyone unhappy (except other extremists).
And finally,
Our military might should be used to ENFORCE the agreements we make diplomatically, not to FORCE others to make agreements.
But, Oil > Rational Thought.
Can we really risk losing access to 20% of the worlds oil supply because it's the morally right thing to do?
@SonOfLiberty
Yes, because free markets work.
You can buy and trade oil everywhere. The fear of high prices will prove false, the fear of 'just' prices --- market value --- will prove right. The US is right to be afraid of that.
How do you think Argentina and Japan get their oil? They can't force Middle Eastern countries into anything, even if they wanted to.
Jimmy @ 108:
My question was rhetorical/satirical...
Although, our economic relationship with oil isn't just about what we put in our gas tank.
U.S. Dollars are necessary to buy oil on the world market (even though we barely produce a fraction of the market, we have an agreement with OPEC to sell their oil in our currency). At this point, oil is the only reason most countries want/need our money. It might as well be the "gold standard" for the dollar.
As more and more currencies circumvent the dollar to get oil (China trades development for oil in Africa and is working with Iran as well, Russia has it's own massive oil supply, and Iran is trying to open a Euro-based oil market (just like Saddam was in 2001)). Whether or not it was the driving force for the invasion, the petro-dollar is a reality.
Google it.
Man that interviewer is amazing. I mean HOT. any more footage of her? is this a syrian t.v. show??? damn, she smokes katie Kurik.
Login or Register to post comments.