there's only one threat to Sherri's kids having food on the table...and that's sherri.....take a look at her inhaling food on that show.

Why would you want to bring back Rosie O? She believes that WTC-7 was a controlled demolition and inside job. Is that scientific?

You all seen this?

http://1820.org.uk/2007/09/land_of_the_free_and_the_home.shtml

And these are the types of people who voted for Bush. No surprise there...

I honestly am at a lose for words. Unreal.

wow this is extremely disturbing

UN-BEE-LIEVABLE!
i think it's good that the creationist looks like a complete dolt in this clip. make people that are on the fence think about how dumb they would sound if they rejected the "theory" of evolution.

Wow,.. just wow,...!!!

The only people dumber and more ignorant than the people on the show are the dumb-a*s people who watch it.

Who is this chick and how did she get on the view? What does she do besides show us that she is as dumb as dirt?

[deleted--uh no, please respect the site owner's policy about discussion of 9/11 theories. Keep your posts on topic.]

Wow... what to say.

pissed off patricia @ 5:

I saw this video on Morning Joe this morning and I couldn't believe what I was seeing and hearing. She never thought about it? What does she think about other than feeding her kids? Has she never seen a globe? Maybe she and that beauty queen talking about maps should get together.

I am married to a scientist and I couldn't wait for him to wake up so I could tell him about this. When I told him he just looked at me and said okay what's the punch line. I had a hard time convincing him that there was no punch line, just a real stupid woman.

A globe? Hell, POP, how about the pictures from the satellites? Great Flying Spaghetti Monster!

Um, I think we need just a wee bit more emphasis on teaching science in this country!

Truth be Known @ 4:

Why would you want to bring back Rosie O? She believes that WTC-7 was a controlled demolition and inside job. Is that scientific?

Assuming you're being serious and not sarcastic, the whole WTC-7 being an inside job thing IS based on science, not on the govt.'s "trust us, we wouldn't lie to you" leap of faith (pun intended) explanation . And the best thing about that clip is that Hasselbeck couldn't get a word in .

Fanon @ 28:

pissed off patricia @ 5:

I saw this video on Morning Joe this morning and I couldn't believe what I was seeing and hearing. She never thought about it? What does she think about other than feeding her kids? Has she never seen a globe? Maybe she and that beauty queen talking about maps should get together.

I am married to a scientist and I couldn't wait for him to wake up so I could tell him about this. When I told him he just looked at me and said okay what's the punch line. I had a hard time convincing him that there was no punch line, just a real stupid woman.

A globe? Hell, POP, how about the pictures from the satellites? Great Flying Spaghetti Monster!

Or the mere fact that the nav system in her minivan works.

Sherri Shepherd really made herself look like a huge fool! Is this really what The View wants to have representing their panel? Why do they have 2 extreme right wingers on their panel? Elizabeth Hasselbeck is slightly more inteligent but not much of an improvement. Good for Whoopi! I'm glad she's on the panel. It would have been hysterical fun to watch Rosie tackle this one though!

greg @ 11:

as I saw on a bumpersticker -

"Fine, I evolved, you didn't."

When evolution is outlawed, then only outlaws will evolve.

Christ, what a retarded cow!

They hired someone even dumber than Hasselbeck? I didn't think that was possible... Wow.

This is evidence that there are people out there that think stupidity is a virtue.

I've been having a number of discussions with people about this very subject. Quite a few of the people involved are fundamentalists.

I, myself, and an Atheist. I don't hate the idea of a 'god'. I just don't believe in it. To me, 'god' seems like he was made by man, and not the other way around.

But, my point is, that I've noticed that most of these people have a fear of knowledge and learning, and often see intelligence as a weakness. To them, god is meant to be there to fill all the gaps in their knowledge that they're too lazy to fill...

And those gaps seem to be becoming bigger, and bigger, everyday.

George W. Bush loves to attack education, because uneducated people are easy to manipulate. His god, is the definitely the 'god of the gaps' and George, the Ugly Chimp, considers himself to be his prophet.

In 2007, it is beyond belief that an educated person could say what she said, how she said it.

Now, I know she was taught in school that John Glenn orbited the earth. I'm sure she heard about the moon orbiting the earth. But, I'm sure she was trying to look past all that she was taught in those evil, government-sponsored, liberal dominated, secular schools and was having difficulty recalling what her pastor had told her. The first phone call after the show was not to the Marian the Librarian, but to the most-likely home schooled leader of her church.

Sad.

America used to be a "can do" country, we're moving toward pathetic really fast.

There was a poll last year that showed that over 40% of Americans doubt Evolution and believe the Creationist model for science. We're on the Highway to Hell, that's for sure.

The only thing that can save us is illegal immigration.

Truly astonishing. I'm surprised she didn't say, let me consult my Bible. It does seem like this country is becoming more ignornant rather than less.

"Won't somebody think of the children!" It was great to watcher her do what a lot of religious nuts do when they get called out. She only cares about her children. All this other crap in the world is meaningless. I loved it! She was plying up to the crowd waiting for them to go "awe! she may believe the world is flat, but she loves her kids...I like her now. Leave her alone Whoopie" Never mind she is raising children who will also now believe the world is flat.

The "I-Don't-Know-Nothin'-About-Nothin'-But-Raisin'-My-Kids!" attitude is SO what's wrong with America these days. That woman should be as embarassed as can be, but she doesn't know any better. And, frankly, she'll be held up as a role model for good and for ill by the right-wing.

The Celestial Teapot @ 27:

Obviously admitting the Earth is round would be to score one for science and embolden the homosexual agenda. I suspect she has a special "Christian library" that will give her the answer she seeks. I fear for her son.

From the Conservapaedia
"The Flat Earth idea is a primitive concept of the earth as a plane or a large circle. [1]

The ancient Greeks knew that the Earth was spherical. Aristotle gave some convincing arguments for the spherical Earth, including ships sailing over the horizon and lunar eclipses showing the Earth's shadow. Eratosthenes used geometry and a hired pace man to estimate its circumference to within a few percent. [2]

Medieval Europeans knew this, and had correctly warned Christopher Columbus that he would never get to India with his limited supplies. Columbus relied on a fallacious argument that the Earth was much smaller than the Greeks estimated.

Some writers have presented the mistaken idea that medieval Europeans used a literal reading of the Bible to conclude that the Earth was flat. [3] They supposedly tried to convince Christopher Columbus that he would fall off the edge of the Earth, the story goes, but Columbus proved that the Earth was round by discovering America. [4]

The Flat Earth theory was mostly invented and promoted by evolutionists for the purpose of slandering Christians.[5][6][7] "

So see it's them damn Darwinists agin.

X @ 35:

Why on earth would one want to see Rosie O'Donnell on television? Or through any viewing apparatus, for that matter? Whoopie Goldberg encountered a fact that she disagreed with and remained civil in her discourse against the dissenter; this is far too much to ask from Ms. O'Donnell...

How would you know how Rosie acted on the view? Did you watch it every day or just get your select clips from Faux?

Seriously, who is she? I've never heard of her. What's the reason she's on the show?

The reason I mentioned a globe is because it's one of the first representations you see of the earth when you begin school as a little kid. After that you have to be an idiot to wonder if the world is round or flat.

lucid fiction @ 51:

you people better wake up and start dragging your knuckles.
After all, we are nothing but animals.............right?

Yes, humans are animals by definition.

Bring Back Rosie. Great motto.

We must strive for intelligent discussion in this country. From Election Fraud, to Causes of Terrorism, to The Federal Reserve and monetary policy to everything.

Our media seems to have a vested interest in ignoring these issues. And most of us know why.

There are uncomfortable truths in our society and we must all get comfortable with them if we are going to change anything.

I'm ready.

Maybe she took the question to mean, "Do you have personal knowledge that the Earth is flat or round?"??? As in, is it her personal experience? Maybe never being an astronaut, she doesn't personally know. And she has had personal experience (her faith) with God. Just sayin'.

Wow - this is really dumbing down of America. This Sherri woman must live in a box. She has to take her son to the library to get the answer to the question "Is the earth round or flat?". Now, that dumber than dirt.

Unbelieveable! Who is this nimwit???

At the end, she says she has a "free will" and she has a "mind." I don't think so.

I just cannot believe that there are people in this country, in the 21st century, who think (or don't think) like this!

I'm flabbergasted!!!!!!!!!!!

Just so you know, I wasn't mocking you POP

the women on the view are actually typical american women, which is why american women watch it. so this should not be surprising at all.

The View? Really! The View!?! Oh my.

The earth lost its silicone and went flat. Thats it. Silicone did not evolve. It just arrived. let's do a boob job on mother earth.

Jeff (74), you are setting yourself up for a spanking making that blanket remark about women. You might want to reword that comment.

Pissed-American @ 79:

Holy Shit ...!!!

These dim witted, dull-minded, stumbling women are making Hundreds of Thousands of $$$ and this is the best they can do.
How weak, how lame, how utterly disgusting that this has happened to our country. We've gone from being a leader of the world in science to this low spot.

Religion is de-evolving the people in this country.

Millions

So typical! ;)

a popular misconception is that europeans thought the earth was flat before columbus "discovered" america. this isn't correct, even before the "dicovery" of the new world (by the euros) people knew the earth wasn't flat.

so.... to find a society/culture that believed that celestial bodies are flat you have to go back a long time before columbus. pre-greek city-state, maybe.

good job religion, at one time the beacon of learning. now, the beacon of shameful ignorance.

i will say that this bonehead, sherri shepherd, is as dumb as The View itself. a match made in valhalla. if i didn't work during the day i would get so effin drunk. or gouge my own eyeballs out of my head.

ysbaddaden @ 9:

It's not a question of "believing" in evolution since it's not a religion, but a science so it's a question of accepting reality.

Bravo! That's it exactly!

Shouldn't she have understood that the world was round well before she was tasked with feeding her children, like when she was a child herself in grade school?

It's disturbing that, in a first world nation where education is compulsory, after 12 years of learning, someone can continue to be so stupid.

What century is this again?

churl @ 56:

The Celestial Teapot @ 27:

Obviously admitting the Earth is round would be to score one for science and embolden the homosexual agenda. I suspect she has a special "Christian library" that will give her the answer she seeks. I fear for her son.

From the Conservapaedia
"The Flat Earth idea is a primitive concept of the earth as a plane or a large circle. [1]

The ancient Greeks knew that the Earth was spherical. Aristotle gave some convincing arguments for the spherical Earth, including ships sailing over the horizon and lunar eclipses showing the Earth's shadow. Eratosthenes used geometry and a hired pace man to estimate its circumference to within a few percent. [2]

Medieval Europeans knew this, and had correctly warned Christopher Columbus that he would never get to India with his limited supplies. Columbus relied on a fallacious argument that the Earth was much smaller than the Greeks estimated.

Some writers have presented the mistaken idea that medieval Europeans used a literal reading of the Bible to conclude that the Earth was flat. [3] They supposedly tried to convince Christopher Columbus that he would fall off the edge of the Earth, the story goes, but Columbus proved that the Earth was round by discovering America. [4]

The Flat Earth theory was mostly invented and promoted by evolutionists for the purpose of slandering Christians.[5][6][7] "

So see it's them damn Darwinists agin.

Actually for once Conserva-whatsis is almost correct.

From Wikipedia on Columbus:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Columbus

Following Washington Irving's myth-filled 1828 biography of Columbus, Americans commonly believed Columbus had difficulty obtaining support for his plan because Europeans thought the Earth was flat.[5] In fact, few at the time of Columbus’s voyage, and virtually no sailors or navigators, believed this.[6] Most agreed Earth was a sphere. This had been the general opinion of ancient Greek science, and continued as the standard opinion (for example of Bede in The Reckoning of Time) until scholars misread Isidore of Seville to say the earth was a disk, inventing the T and O map concept. This view was very influential, but never wholly accepted. Knowledge of the Earth's spherical nature was not limited to scientists: for instance, Dante's Divine Comedy is based on a spherical Earth. Columbus put forth arguments based on the circumference of the sphere. Most scholars accepted Ptolemy's claim the terrestrial landmass (for Europeans of the time, comprising Eurasia and Africa) occupied 180 degrees of the terrestrial sphere, leaving 180 degrees of water.

Columbus, however, believed the calculations of Marinus of Tyre, putting the landmass at 225 degrees, leaving only 135 degrees of water. Moreover, Columbus believed one degree represented a shorter distance on the earth's surface than was commonly held. Finally, he read maps as if the distances were calculated in Italian miles (1,238 meters). Accepting the length of a degree to be 56⅔ miles, from the writings of Alfraganus, he therefore calculated the circumference of the Earth as 25,255 kilometers at most, and the distance from the Canary Islands to Japan as 3,000 Italian miles (3,700 km, or 2,300 statute miles) Columbus did not realize Al-Farghani used the much longer Arabic mile (about 1,830 meters).

Columbus' problem was, experts did not accept this estimate. The true circumference of the Earth is about 40,000 km (25,000 sm), a figure established by Eratosthenes in the second century BC,[7] and the distance from the Canary Islands to Japan 19,600 km (12,200 sm). No ship in the 15th century could carry enough food and fresh water for such a journey. Most European sailors and navigators concluded, correctly, that sailors undertaking a westward voyage from Europe to Asia non-stop would die of thirst or starvation long before reaching their destination. Spain, however, having completed an expensive war, was desperate for a competitive edge over other European countries in trade with the East Indies. Columbus promised one.

While Columbus' calculations were inaccurate concerning the circumference of the Earth and the distance from the Canary Islands to Japan, almost all Europeans held the mistaken opinion that the aquatic expanse between Europe and Asia was uninterrupted. As the 16th century developed, a route to America, rather than to Japan, gave Spain a competitive edge in developing an overseas empire.

Merka is F**ked..!

The key is her admittance that "I really haven't given it much thought." This is simply another reason why that tried and true phrase "question authority", from the 1960s, is still very much relevant today, whether it is challenging religion, the government, the military, education, the workplace, etc. Superconservatives like this woman do not want their beliefs challenged because their opinions, like their allegiance to Bush, are pretty much based largely on faith and emotion while being devoid of facts, reason and logic. No matter what is said to these people, their usual response is "well, that is your opinion and not mine."

It is probably true that the fossil record doesn't prove evolution. It can't because fossils are by their nature an accident. Not every creature that ever walked the earth has been fossilized. In fact, probably only a small percentage of the species that have walked the earth have been fossilized. It is quite possible that entire eras or epochs are poorly represented in the fossil record because weather and geological conditions were not conducive to producing fossils. It's likely that there will always be huge gaps in the fossil record.

However, if you wanna see how evolution works just look at your dog. Does it look like a wolf? Ok, so some dogs do look like wolves, but most don't. Genetic research pretty much confirms that the Grey Wolf was your dogs ancestor, but selective breeding has made Phydo into what he or she is today. That's pretty much how evolution works.

What the fossil record does is completely disprove the version of creation in the Bible. Creationists try to challenge the science, particularly the science used for dating fossils, but that is the very same science used in medicine and technology, it isn't voodoo science.

Oh.My.God... she's never thought about it? As someone asked early on in this thread - she's never seen a globe?

This scared me... I'm shivering still. Sad thing is - there are alot of folks who think (or don't do so critically) like her.

"She played Brad Garrett’s cop partner on Everybody Loves Raymond (she was good in that, I thought) and has been in other TV shows and movies."

Bet she had some swell backstage discussions with Patricia Heaton.

Whoa! What IQ do you have to have to get on that panel? What was there to think about? Why would you go to the library? Why is she on that show if she is going on like that? Oh, wait, Elizabeth is on there...guess you don't need much in the way of IQ.

i live in south and am surrounded by morons like this

rc @ 104:

i live in south and am surrounded by morons like this

I hear ya! It amazes me when I go back to Atlanta to visit - I am so glad I left there :-)

Dumb as a rock.

Wow.

Smash your TeeVee.

Not only should she get her dumb ass to the library, she should stay there for at least a couple of years. She's got a lot of make up reading to catch up on. Holy shit, is she joking?
Wonder if she "believes" in gravity?
The view indeed. A view of how unbelievably stupid some of our fellow citizens really are. She just has to be a Conservative. Pathetic, and I bet she makes huge bucks.

Jeff @ 73:

the women on the view are actually typical american women, which is why american women watch it. so this should not be surprising at all.

Gee. Thanks.

If she has reached adulthood, not knowing the world is round. I doubt very much a LIBRARY will help her now , secondly I'd like to see some other minorities such as Asian, Latina or Islander on these shows ans commercials, other then black all the time .

Secondly, what idiot chose this moron to be on the show, that brings up feeding her kids, and not knowing if the world is round or not . Also Whoopie sounds logical and all that , but she doesn't have a clue, whether there is a "god", or he gave "markers" or not, it's less provable than Evolution, she has NO empirical FACTs at all, to even prove there is a "god" .

Captain Kangaroo @ 113:

Captain Kangaroo @ 109:

After this I have no doubt that Bush thinks the world is flat.
And Glenn Beck would back him up.

I bet nobody has ever asked Bush if the world is flat.

I would die laughing if some journalist actually asked him. I can just see him blankly staring then staring back as if to ask, "Is this a trick question, how do I answer?"

what an absolute dodge…”I don’t have time to find out if the world is flat or round”.

I tend to agree-Whoopie had her cornered so rather than follow the logic of the argument any further she bailed,and in the process made a jackass of herself.
Of course there is the possibility she honestly didn't know the answer.Its surprising how many otherwise reasonably competent people(the girl hasn't made it this far being a complete idiot-I hope)don't know squat when it comes to basic geography and science.Some are "willfully ignorant" others,totally detached and like Bush,"intellectually incurious".Just how Conservatives like them.

Yellow Elephant Safari @ 119:

Scott Radtke @ 105:

Somehow OMG! WTF!? no longer seem adequate.

There's no shortage of morons in the great white north either.

I live part of the year in Eagle River WI. 10 minutes in any bar in Vilas county is all the evidence you'll need to see that I'm correct.

Sorry. Meant to quote rc@104

Morons? Sadly, this is probably 51% or MORE of the population. But let's have a conversation on a talk show about things we know absolutely nothing about!!!

Humanity is doomed.

Captain Kangaroo @ 109:

After this I have no doubt that Bush thinks the world is flat.
And Glenn Beck would back him up.

So if you dig through this flat earth to China would you find everyone on the other side of the hole to be upside down?

Who is Sheri Shepperd anyway? I've never heard of her. And, more importantly, why did I waste 2 mins of my life listening to this ridiculous conversation? For a momentthere I thought I was standing in line at an Unemployment office.

We're talking about this at length on my website too: http://www.badastronomy.com/bablog/2007/09/18/how-ignorant-can-you-be-an...

If you concede the world is round, the terrorists win!

That woman puts the "dumb" in freedom of speech. Are we really to believe that she would venture into the dangerous realm of a public library? That was the baldest lie of all. She never did before; why would she now?

Of course, The View is meaningless prattle, not intelligent conversation. Otherwise, one of the "hosts" would suggest that the whole group should indeed go to a library and research the very subject that is sucking out Rotunda's brain.

Can't sleep. Flat-Earth clown will eat me. Can't sleep ...

DickCheneyShotMeInTheFace @ 132:

I'm a woman and The View makes me ashamed to have a vagina. What a bunch of cackling yentas. Unwatchable.

I've never heard the word "yenta" before. Thanks! You learn something new every day.

Everything about this exchange was fucked, not just the "is the earth flat" bit.

Whoopi Goldberg was totally inarticulate. She barely made sense. Thirty years in comedy, and apparently she can't express simple ideas in coherent sentences without a script.

And everybody gave the flat earth/evolutionist bozo a pass. I was honestly waiting for one of those women to say, "What the hell are you talking about, you don't know if the earth is flat?? And what does your kid have to do with it? Get a grip, honey."

Why is boneheaded idiocy allowed to go unchallenged? What the fuck is going on here? Is it now politically incorrect to actually display common sense on the public airwaves??

*ACK* That simply breaks my heart... I always LOVED me some Whoopi Goldberg, but she sounded like such a dumb-as-dirt fool! And to think she's the woman who played Celie in "The Color Purple"... And Guinan on "Star Trek: The Next Generation." The writers on ST:TNG always made her character seem so mysterious and wise... To hear her up on that stage, sounding like such a clueless buffoon. I think I'm experiencing disillusionment. I agree, I'd take Rosie's loud ass any day! At least she speaks in coherent sentences.

It's hard to believe that this woman ever made it through high school. She didn't need to take a science class, her history classes should have taught her about Magellan circumnavigating the globe, or Columbus selling his theory about sailing west to China.

Actually Columbus didn't have to sell the idea that the earth was round. That was pretty well accepted at the time. What Columbus had to do was fins a sponsor dumb enough to accept his data because good old Chris only though the circumference of the earth was about 10,000 miles, and everyone else knew better. Chris was lucky because he would have run out of food and water long before reaching China if America didn't happen to get in the way.

Take the Joy out of that program, and you have Maury. Whoopie? Thank God you are getting paid to sit with retards. You are the highest paid retard-sitter in the whole world.

Of course she knows that the earth is round; she can't be that stupid. She didn't say so because she just can't admit it. To admit it would be to admit that the liberals and evolutionists are right, is that is something she would never do. It's the same reason that lots of people continue to say that Bush is a great president and still support the Iraq war. They just can't admit they were wrong, no matter how much evidence there is that proves that they are. Now, it's gotten to the point where to admit the earth is round is to be a left winger.

This is exactly why I am moving back to Europe ASAP. My brain cells are being zapped every time I see something like this.

Well, this kind of stupidity among other horrors such as the headlong race toward blatant jack-booted fascism, the impending recession and the fact that America is committing crimes against humanity and whole scale genocide.