Countdown Special Comment: The President Of Hypocrisy
By Logan Murphy Wednesday Sep 19, 2007 8:52pm
In light of President Bush's disgraceful presser today, Keith Olbermann decided to make a Special Comment on tonight's Countdown and wow, did he make the most of it. Olbermann blasts the president for his cowardly and un-American behavior of pimping General Petraeus as a political hack and hiding behind him to deflect criticism.
To say that Keith took the president to the woodshed would be an understatement.
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So the President, behaving a little bit more than usual, like we'd all interrupted him while he was watching his favorite cartoons on the DVR, stepped before the press conference microphone and after side-stepping most of the substantive issues like the Israeli raid on Syria in condescending and infuriating fashion, produced a big-wow political finish that indicates, certainly, that if it wasn't already -- the annual Republican witch-hunting season is underway.
"I thought the ad was disgusting. I felt like the ad was an attack not only on General Petraeus, but on the U.S. Military.
"And I was disappointed that not more leaders in the Democrat party spoke out strongly against that kind of ad.
"And that leads me to come to this conclusion: that most Democrats are afraid of irritating a left-wing group like Move-On-Dot-Org -- or **more** afraid of irritating them, than they are of irritating the United States military."
"That was a sorry deal."
First off, it's "Democrat-ic" party, sir.
You keep pretending you're not a politician, so stop using words your party made up. Show a little respect.
Secondly, you could say this seriously after the advertising/mugging of Senator Max Cleland? After the swift-boating of John Kerry?
But most importantly... making that the last question?
So that there was no chance at a follow-up?
So nobody could point out -- as Chris Matthews so incisively did, a week ago tonight -- that you were the one who inappropriately interjected General Petraeus into the political dialogue of this nation in the first place!
Deliberately, premeditatedly, and virtually without precedent, you shanghaied a military man as your personal spokesman -- and now you're complaining about the outcome, and then running away from the microphone?
Eleven months ago the President's own party -- the Republican National Committee -- introduced this very different kind of advertisement, just nineteen days before the mid-term elections.
Bin Laden.
And Zawahiri's rumored quote of six years ago about having bought "suitcase bombs."
All set against a ticking clock, and finally a blinding explosion... and the dire announcement:
"These are the stakes - vote, November 7th."
That one was ok, Mr. Bush?
Terrorizing your own people in hopes of getting them to vote for your own party has never brought as much as a public comment from you?
The Republican Hamstringing of Captain Max Cleeland and lying about Lieutenant John Kerry met with your approval?
But a shot at General Petraeus -- about whom you conveniently ignore it is you who reduced him from four-star hero to a political hack -- that merits this pissy juvenile blast at the Democrats on national television?
Your hypocrisy is so vast, sir, that if we could somehow use it to fill the ranks in Iraq you could realize your dream -- and keep us fighting there until the year 3000.
The line between the military and the civilian government is not to be crossed.
When Douglas MacArthur attempted to make policy for the United States in Korea half a century ago, President Truman moved quickly to fire him, even though Truman knew it meant his own political suicide, and the deification of a General who history suggests had begun to lose his mind.
When George McClellan tried to make policy for the Union in the Civil War, President Lincoln finally fired his chief General, even though he knew McClellan could galvanize political opposition - as he did... when McClellan ran as Lincoln's presidential opponent in 1864 and nearly defeated our greatest president.
Even when the conduit flowed the other way and Senator Joseph McCarthy tried to smear the Army because it wouldn't defer the service of one of McCarthy's staff aides, the entire civilian and Defense Department structures -- after four years of fearful servitude -- rose up against McCarthy and said "enough" and buried him.
The list is not endless -- but it is instructive.
Air Force General LeMay -- who broke with Kennedy over the Cuban Missile Crisis -- and was retired.
Army General Edwin Anderson Walker -- who started passing out John Birch Society leaflets to his soldiers.
Marine General Smedley Butler -- who revealed to Congress the makings of a plot to remove FDR as President -- and for merely being approached by the plotters, was phased out of the military hierarchy.
These careers were ended because the line between the military and the civilian is... not... to... be... crossed!
Mr. Bush, you had no right to order General Petraeus to become your front man.
And he obviously should have refused that order and resigned rather than ruin his military career.
The upshot is -- and contrary it is, to the MoveOn advertisement -- he betrayed himself more than he did us.
But there has been in his actions a sort of reflexive courage, some twisted vision of duty at a time of crisis. That the man doesn't understand that serving officers cannot double as serving political ops, is not so much his fault as it is your good, exploitable, fortune.
But Mr. Bush, you have hidden behind the General's skirts, and today you have hidden behind the skirts of 'the planted last question' at a news conference, to indicate once again that your presidency has been about the tilted playing field, about no rules for your party in terms of character assassination and changing the fabric of our nation, and no right for your opponents or critics to as much as respond.
That, sir, is not only un-American -- it is dictatorial.
And in pimping General David Petraeus, sir, in violation of everything this country has been assiduously and vigilantly against for 220 years, you have tried to blur the gleaming radioactive demarcation between the military and the political, and to portray your party as the one associated with the military, and your opponents as the ones somehow antithetical to it.
You did it again today, sir, and you need to know how history will judge the line you just crossed.
It is a line -- thankfully only the first of a series -- that makes the military political, and the political, military.
It is a line which history shows is always the first one crossed when a democratic government in some other country has started down the long, slippery, suicidal slope towards a military junta.
Get back behind that line, Mr. Bush, before some of your supporters mistake your dangerous transgression, for a call to further politicize our military.
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Good night, and good luck.
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Keith's speech kicked the crap out of the pedantic chimp's rant.
HE SHOOTS! HE SCORES!
Another great 'Special Comment' from Olbermann. I'm glad to see him losing his appendix didn't make him lose his 'Righteous Indignation'.
I thought it was his best SC so far, but man, let your sutures heal before you try that again
After Keith signed off, Dan Abrams delivered a comment that was almost as strong for our side as Keith's. Any chance you could get a video of that, too?
I'm so glad he's recovered enough to be on tonight. I'm with Spud...take care of yourself KO honey.
Carefull KO...those are new stitchs......don't bust nothin ...We need you back on the air..Telling the truth.....it's just a shame the loons don't get it.Kinda like that Ryan loon up there.
Ryan, Ryan, Ryan. Talk about learning to be objective, how about Rushy, SlantHead Hannity or Bill-O. I hope [deleted - over the top]
Wow, that was pretty intense, kudos to Keith.
I saw this tonight and i too think it was one of his best. I was hoping he would also say a little more about the ad itself, but pointing out self serving hypocritical self righteousness was great.
Hot diggity damn... Now That was fun!
Of course KO ko's the traitorous, chicken shit shrub, bush is too easy a target and we all know what he's about. KO needs to start dressing down the spineless, bush appeasers in the senate and congress.
dan abrams actually got behind keith? wish I'd seen that!
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It is no wonder that there is such a divide in this country when these posts are written such as the one above.
Ryan, I can virtually guarantee based upon your post that you are an indoctrinated, uneducated, ninconpoop that not only did not listen to what Olbermann actually said, but even if you did, you would not understand the significance of what he was speaking of. A little course on historical matters is what you should invest some of your time on and not waiting for someone to post a video here so that you can start a thread with a juvenile comment.
I wonder Ryan if you are a Christian like Coulter that wears a cross around their neck and wishes death on people whose opinions they dislike.
I guess Ryan had to go back to his cell........But Hey Thundernutz....that sounds good to me.....or even spits in his coffee...
I really wish Olbermann would stop calling Bush "sir."
Just call him Chimpy and everything will be ok.
Thundernutz @ 7:
Ok, sorry, I hope you see the light and come over to our side....Better?
shill @ 15:
You'll never hear him call him Mr President.....
"Kinda like that Ryan loon up there."
Who's Ryan?
I love Keith's SC's...but the other side just sees him as a "Mr. Smarty pants liberal with all 'em fancy werds an such. How dare he?"
I'm sorry, but what?
Politics and military are meant to be separate. Bush is making them one. What is so subjective about that?
He should have also mentioned that Smedley Butler was approached by people who wanted a fascist regime in the US and that one of those people was Prescott Bush.
Kles @ 19:
Bleh, this was meant to be a reply to the first poster. It didn't show up right.
Thundernutz @ 16:
Golden showers?
Bush is a "seasoned pimp-meister"! Just look at all of the fall guys he's already hidden behind. When he's gone, his legacy will be, among other things, he was the biggest coward on the planet.
if only K.O.' words would not fall on so many deaf ears. if only more "journalist" would be a critical and vocal. MSM has been talking about that damned ad and not the reality of the debate far too long.
A thousand thank-you's to you KO. I only wish more of our MSM had the courage to point out what is transparently obvious with regard to Bush's shameless behavior, not to mention the Senate. But what else is new when it comes to Bush? His hypocrisy and lack of decency truly has no bounds. I've been spitting mad about this all day long. I just got home, and was so happy to hear your commentary. Thank-you again. At least I can go to bed comforted by the fact that at least the people who watch your show "get it". Frankly, I think MoveOn should kick it up a notch. I might even send them a donation.
Why hasn't there been a post about the Jena Six? There was a rally today! Don't tell me we've forgotten 6 young boys you have been sent to jail for a school yard fight!
Damn, I want to be KO when I finally grow up.
Seems as though the moderators got here. Well done. It's pathetic that there are so many people out there that are clueless about history and the significance of some of what is being said and done in our name. They just blurt out parroted comments and the amount of violent vitriol amazes me.
Anyway, thanks a bunch for this post of Keith. No wonder he is making such great headway into O'Reillys numbers. Succinct and very appropriate. The kind of guy that O'Reilly and Hannity would be lost in a debate with because Keith has a plethora of knowledge he can illicit at any given moment.
come to think of it...I've never heard anyone say he's been wrong...on the MSM....KO certainly does his homework and research....they can't touch him..I don't see any volunteers for a debate with him....from anywhere.
Long live Keith Olbermann!
Is it just me or does Keith's background of multiple TV screens not look a little like the multicolored glass of some churches?
'First off, it’s “Democrat-ic” party, sir.
You keep pretending you’re not a politician, so stop using words your party made up. Show a little respect.'
LMAO!!! I loved it. When I heard that, I knew it was going to be good one. K.O. is the only commentator who has the balls to scold the WarPig like the emotionally and mentally disturbed adolescent in a man's body that Bush is.
Chris @ 26:
there was one yesterday..or the day before.
The scary thing is that the Bush admin is even more evil than Keith ever describes. The only thing that is more disgusting than the evil and corrupt Repugs is the spineless and equally corrupt Demugs. It is high time that you all realize that if Bush leaves office without any accountability, the next president (no matter which party) is going expand our fascist dictatorship.
Some of you Dems think that just getting a Dem elected president will heal the country, but YOU ARE SOOOO WRONG. That will just mean a continuation of the wars, and phoney 'war on terror', AND taxing the last penny out of all of us for a universal health swindle and fake global warming crap.
There is a company right now who has a product that will give you 50-100% better gas mileage. And they are coming out with another product that will double that. Anyone who really cared about getting off oil and cleaning up the environment should check it out at http://preignitioncc.com/sam/.
Hmmm - I think Keith doesn't care too much for Mr. Bush.
What odds that Bushie's henchmen will pressure the network to sack Keith - or better imprison him for treason???
PLEASE Democrats - BEGIN the BLOODY IMPEACHMENT ALREADY!!!!
I wanna live long enough to see Bushie rot in jail!!!!
Keith gives me some hope that someone is paying attention and giving us the truth.
Holy Mother of Gawd! That was the most tightly honed, take-no-prisoners, do-not-pass-go-do-not-collect-two-hundred-dollars-and-go-directly-to-jail Special Comment yet.
Now throttle back, Keith and get some rest.
Here's a toast to the courageous people speaking truth to power. Keith Olbermann, John Stewart, Stephen Colbert, and in a different forum Ron Paul.
Why can't we get anything resembling Keith's obvious observation from the network pundits?
I saw Tim Russert on NBC comment on Shrub's idiotic statement, and if he pretended that he actually believed that the Resident's tolerably obvious acting job was actually sincere. Now, I know Tim wasn't born yesterday. He saw the set up, he saw the disingenuous responce from Shrub, he knew it was all bullshit. But, Timmah did what all whores do. Timmah shook his fat ass in our face. Fuck you Tim Russert! You know better.
sam @ 33:
The problem with you repubs is that your boy the preznit has put the country in such a hole the Dems will have to raise taxes just to get the country in the black.....AGAIN....... ...so when the time comes..you'll have no one to thank but your boy....the worst Pres in history.
Unbelievable, So Outstanding I don't even have the words to describe!!!
Don't cross that line mr. president (as we shake our heads in shame and scorn).
Iraq Veterans Against the War
www.ivaw.org
Sam explain to me why the preznit took the country to war in Iraq...
Bravo Keith!
Welcome back! I was at a back to school night and could not see the show - and will be in bed before it runs again. Thanks again!
If a congressional democrat were to have denounced Bush in precisely those terms, how many colleagues would have rallied to that person?
My guess is none. Or at best, perhaps, a few.
There is cancer within the democratic party.
And Hillary Clinton is that cancer's poster child.
Who was the stooge who ask that last question?
shill @ 15:
I think this is code- KO says "sir" when he means "you fucking asshole"
The hypocrisy of our Senate is just as bad as that from the White House.
This is not about the war in Iraq; it is not about respect for the military; it is not about terrorism; it is certainly not about patriotism. It is about Free Speech and nothing else (well, maybe a little hypocrisy). It is about the United States Senate deciding that it can penalize private citizens and groups for expressing their opinions.
I created a simple graphic message that everyone can use to let their feelings be known. It's a take off on the MoveOn ad. Help yourselves...
U.S. Congress Or U.S. Betray Us?
shill @ 15:
I feel the same ... as if it accords him a respect he doesn't deserve.
This was an excellent commentary - Keith was almost spittin' mad!
Wonder if Bush will get Keith to ghost his memoir.......
That was me, Carmiki. I despise congressional democrats who supported the Big Lie war whole hog, until the polls turned on their perverted ambitions.
Clinton is a swine of a candidate.
Boosh has disgraced the Presidency...far more than Clinton ever did....
OK, wait a minute. Educate me here folks. I'm a huge KO fan, and I think the Moveon controversy is Repub hypocrisy at it's worst (loved the video of Boxer and Durbin smacking down Cornyn) But there's something here I don't understand.
The premise of KO's comment is that Bush shoved Petraeus out front to make this report. BUT...wasn't that part of the legislation that created/financed this whole Splurge? The White House was supposed to do a report and the General and Crocker were supposed to testify.
Are we just saying that Petraeus' skewed his report to fit what the commander in chief wanted? If so, just say that. But if you listen to Keith's special comment, you'd come away believing that the President, and the President alone, shoved Petraeus into the political system.
I'm no troll. "I'm with you fellers." But tell me where I'm missing it here.
Brad
I am not Republican at all, not even the original kind.
Bush took us to war because he was following orders. That is the same reason Reid, Pelosi and others are doing what they are doing. This country is run by multinational bankers and corporations. Anyone that has studied the federal reserve and the banking system knows that it is a ponzi scheme designed to give the super rich control of most countries.
I think it is interesting that you say it is necessary to tax people even more because of Bush. The fact of the matter is that if we abolish the federal reserve, let people know that income tax is totally VOLUNTARY and stop interfering in the affairs of other countries, we could have a booming economy, low taxes, and then we can talk about maybe implementing some social programs (however run by local governments or charities, NOT federal). Thanks.
Mr Obvious says:
Keith passed Civics class.
Bush failed.
[...] Olbermann is back from his emergency appendectomy with a vengeance. His special comment tonight deals with all the trumped-up outrage over the MoveOn Petraeus/Betray-Us ad. It’s nice to [...]
DAMN!
KO's comments are so powerful. So true. Only a sportswriter can write with that kind of unbridled passion. My own theory is that only someone who loves baseball and understands it could get to the depths of the Bush nightmare. KO does it. However, I think if he had not done the last two or three special comments - this one would have blown up like fireworks. Less is more KO.
Just to be clear. Bush is the stupidest and worst world leader I have ever heard about. I haven't even heard of a fictional character that was as bad.
S.I.R stand for Super Ignorant Retard.
[...] Special Comment: The Presidency Of Hypocrisy article and video from Crooks and [...]
Wow, too bad he can't give the dems some of his spine.
sam @ 57:
You've nicked it...
I don't want Bush to be taken to the woodshed.
I want him to be taken to the World Court. And if found guilty of war crimes, I want him to be taken to...you can figure out the rest.
If Keith Olberman, Bill Mahr, Steve Colbert and his buddy John Stewart were in the senate the war would be over already. Four votes is all we need!
Yeah, baby!
I'm actually surprised how much better Keith made me feel, after really being pissed about this whole faux-scandal for days now.
Even death itself cannot stop Olbermann! You go, KO!
James, you do NOT need ANY votes to stop the war. All the congress has to do is REFUSE to even let any war spending bills be voted on. This idea that the Dems don't have they votes is the biggest bunch of BS since the WMDs story. They are corrupt and playing the game until they can get into power and give all their friend the nobid contracts. WAKE UP.
[...] here, called The President Of Hypocrisy. Excerpt - But Mr. Bush, you have hidden behind the General’s skirts, and today you have hidden [...]
Anyone want to take a crack at my question in #51?
Brad
Sam is right...we don't need votes to stop the war. Just don't submit the funding to the floor in the first place. Congress knows this; Kucinich has been screaming it for 2 years.
KO did a good job with tonights Special Comment. This MoveOn witch hunt is sickening.
Time for the Senate to act again...
After Keith Olbermann's tirade tonight, I hope the Senate does what it seems to do best lately and passes a Sense of the Senate denouncing him and all of his past Special Comments.
I mean, hell, if you're disrespecting the Commander in Chief, you must be disrespecting all in his command.
Right?
briefer @ 51:
Off the top of my head, Brad, a few things: Petraeus was put forward by Bush as a source for an honest appraisal of how the surge was going. We were all told, "wait for Petraeus; he is a paragon of honor and trustworthiness, and as you know, I've been claiming to base my decisions on 'the advice of the generals on the ground' all this time", so we did. Then it turned out that Petraeus was going to deliver White House-written happy-talk filled with Enron-style numbers. He was promised to us as an honest source of "the straight dope", and he turned out to be just the dope, or maybe the straight man... a uniform the President could hide behind. He waited (or, rather, his political handlers waited) until they could use lies and false reasoning (attacking Petraeus for a political stunt? That totally equals attacking the troops and is evil and all Democrats must condemn MoveOn.org to our satisfaction) to demonize and isolate a voice -- a Rosie O'Donnell, a Cindy Sheehan, or, in this case, MoveOn.org -- and then they deliberately, and with great coordination, rushed to the fore to rail in mock outrage, just as they did when they all, coincidentally, thought John Kerry's flubbed joke about Bush was actually a shot at the troops' education! In other words, Petraeus was used as an unassailable shield behind which Bush could not only hide, but do what the Republicans often do, which is to make the story about the accuser, not the accusation. Republicans today are basically shameless political creatures whose every strategy is based upon marketing and authoritarian gamesmanship.
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How many wingers were hoping that Keith developed complications while in the hospital?
He's an inconvenient truth-teller.
Stewart/Olbermann 08
If there's no one on the ticket that's worth voting for, might as well write it in.
Olbermann for president!
Pat Buchanan tried to convince Dan Abrams that Bush wasn't using Petraeus as a political stand-in. Abrams replied that all Bush ever said about the surge was "Wait for Petraeus. Wait for Petraeus. Wait for Petraeus. Wait for Petraeus." The consternation on Pat's face was priceless. Dan must have read Keith's special comment and was immediately won over by Keith's arguement.
Has anyone been able to identify the Jeff Gannon replacement shill planted to ask Bush the question about Moveon.org? Is he a gay, male prostitute too?
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Turk Meister @ 75:
Isn't that what it takes to become an "insider"?
Every speech someone here says it was his best ever. His third or fourth one from now, he should eclipse Martin Luther King's 'I Have a Dream' speech. This one tonight just topped JFK's inaugural address speech.
We get it; he hates George Bush. Ho hum.
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Also, Brad, Bush's job is to listen to the generals, who are supposed to give their advice and perspective behind closed doors, out of sight of the public -- you know, so the President can get CANDID ADVICE -- and then the President, who after all makes the decisions, goes on TV and says what he's decided to do and takes the heat. To put the General in front of the world to give his report -- in exactly the sort of way this Administration has argued it cannot let Karl Rove or Harriet Meiers or anyone else from their staff testify, because it would cause a chilling effect on the aforementioned 'candid advice' that the President needs -- written in such a way that the President's decision, well, golly, is just a fait accompli, is the worst kind of manipulative political theatre. To cap it with the perfect distraction away from the facts of MoveOn.org's accusation is, of course, to make the matter all about how mean and "disgusting" the attack was.
You want "disgusting"? How about the President on the campaign trail last year: "The Democrat plan for Iraq is simple: America loses; the terrorists win." That's pure class, right there. Nothing disgusting about that!
The typically weaselly Republicans came up with their usual have-their-cake-and-eat-it-too strategy: first, keep claiming that, for all intents and purposes, the generals decide the policy, not "Washington politicians", then write the script the General would read to Congress, then feign outrage that MoveOn.org (and, by extension, all Democrats) would call a spade a spade (and, by extension, slime all troops other than John Kerry and John Murtha). And the media follows along, with a "Memento" memory and no real desire to incur the wrath of the obedient right-wing base. (Besides, real journalism is expensive compared to press release recitation and goofy shouting matches.)
It is my suspicion that the Republicans discovered, after Watergate, that to get away with murder, they first had to murder the free press. They've done that -- hence, they're able to run rampant, and there's little anybody can do about it, because, well, Walter Cronkite has been replaced by Wolf Blitzer.
The people who wrote the First Amendment put too much faith in the press, I'm afraid. But, then, Thomas Paine thought a revolution in religion would occur, and deism would spread across the globe. Instead, he died a drunken, penniless wretch on Skid Row. How long before the spirit of America joins him there, in boozy oblivion?
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Ooooouuuuuhhhhh...........
Bush deserves more than that.........
He has done countless of offenses that calls for his IMPEACHMENT..........
We the PEOPLE deserve what WE are getting for allowing this run-away government from getting away with MURDER ..... AND for not doing enough to holding his accomplice accountable for turning a blind eye and a deaf ear to the many crimes already committed.
dennis @ 78:
"Ho hum"? You took the time to post a comment in which you express your apathy? Thanks for sharing. Maybe it isn't about "hating" George Bush, but something a little more complicated than that.
Or does "complicated" make steam come out of your ears?
I think Keith has got Bush number.
Keith is God
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Clavis:
Put like that, I totally agree. The PR buildup was "Gen Petraeus will come back and give us the straight scoop." However, Keith played it like it was Bush's idea to make Petraeus the spokesman, as if "Hey, you can't have military guys coming up here giving reports." Well, of course we can. It happens all the time.
I guess my complaint is that Keith's emphasis was wrong. Petraeus did not violate some societal line by coming to give a report (the legislation required it). Bush didn't breach any faith by giving a written report (the legislation required it). What was sad was that Bush manipulated this perfectly legitimate procedure to, as we say, "hide behind Petraeus' skirts."
What I don't get about the whole Petraeus thing is this: where did we get the idea that anyone in a uniform can't be treated like any other citizen when they insert themselves into the public debate? I totally respect what they do, from professional soldiers to National Guard (my son's Army Guard). But, at the end of the day, they're citizens like the rest of us. We listen to what they have to say. But if our BS detectors start going off, then it's time to remind them that this is 'Merica and, by golly, when you're up on that soap box you're just as much fair game as anyone else.
Brad
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LongTooth @ 49:
I wasn't talking about your question. Your post wasn't there when I wrote my post. I was asking about the last question at the president's news conference. The set-up question about MoveOn.org. The camera never panned to the guy who asked that question, and I though maybe Jeff Gannon had returned to the Whitehouse Press Corps.
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Keith has never been better.
Brilliant.
Clavis:
I was typing while you were typing. Your #77's a great summary.
Brad
[...] see: The Usurper made a “surprise” trip to Iraq, to shake with a Sheik, who was then killed on Saturday. [...]
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Olbermann for President! He's the only one saying what the Democratic candidates should be saying. He's the only one with a backbone. Maybe the Dems should act like they don't have anything to lose when they speak the truth.
Thanks to Keith Olbermann for the excellent and relevant history lesson. He was awesome as usual.
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Clavis is kicking some ass! :)
Clavis @ 83:
Clavis-
I've been at a back to school function all night tonight. I missed his special comment, as I do most nights. No, "complicated" usually intrigues me, but when only one viewpoint comes out of a man's mouth, "complicated" goes out the window. My only reason for commenting is the bizarre affection most posters here show for the guy. It's the same sort of hero-worship the left accuses the 29%ers of being like.
The leftie blogs feed off him and he feeds off the leftie blogs, and round and round it goes. That gets us all where exactly? Better educated? More politically astute. More angry? Or those agreeing with him somehow feeling better about themselves? Just what?
And please tell me how every speech of his is his best ever.
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Another KO, KO!!!!
WAY to KO! :-)
*bows repeatedly before Olbermann, a la Wayne and Garth*
I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy!
If more of America's so-called "reporters" were like Keith, BushCo would be history. Impeached. Jailed.
100
dennis @ 101:
You would prefer someone with two viewpoints?
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[...] bush a new one. Way to go Olbermann. Someone in the MSM has the balls to say it like it is! Crooks and Liars
The Dems act like they just fell off the back of a turnip truck and landed in a grave. They sound so stupid trying to denounce MOVE-ON. They sound political even when war isn't political toe the average American. MOVE-ON is trying to put an end to something so barbaric that it's right out of the 9th century. It's not that the Republicans don't know this is like Viet Nam, they want it to be Viet Nam. And if Petreaus is stupid enough to be a mouthpiece for a bunch of looney liars while America's finest are dying on the battlefield then he ought to be able to accept the notion that what he mouthed was a betrayal of trust.
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Tell me how this is any different than colin powell's pack of lies presentation at the UN. A military type guy is put in front of a panel of his peers to convince them additional military action is in the best interest of our country based on thin, cherry picked and fraudulent evidence.
The only thing I see is that Petreaus was proven a fraud more quickly. This happened with the Pentagon's own report that contradicted much of what he said.
How can anyone defend a presentation that is based on lies and totally false assumptions?
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You know... if this got as much attention as the MoveOn ad, it might actually make a difference.
As things stand, it will probably fade away like the rest of his special comments, no matter how poignant it or they are, because for the most part he's preaching to the choir.
That critter is one serious clown. I would LOVE to meet the people who take him seriously :)
I've been a declared a Dem since the last time a Republican't accused me of being a Dem (I was an independent at the time.) I'm now a independent (though I vote Democratic) because the Dems allowed the Move On attack vote to come up for a vote.
Tigerwong @ 114:
His choir is getting larger and with any luck will start singing louder.
dennis @ 78:
And we get it , you put youre own politics above the safety of our troops.
Thats the only explanation for asking a soldier to risk his life for NOTHING. Thats support huh?
Cutting pay, slashing "leave" by 75%, sending them into battle without a exit strategy or even a mission??
With friends like RepubliNazis , do the soldiers need enemies??
RepubliNazis hurt the troops more than al Qaeda.
alQaeda only accounts for 10% of attacks in Iraq, according to the GAO.
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At least Keith, unlike Petreaus, looked like he actually believed what he was saying.
Body language says a lot. Neither petreaus nor the ambassador appeared to believe what they were saying.
dennis @ 101:
I can't tell you that, because that's a made-up position. Who hear has said that every one of his Comments is the best one ever? I can think of at least one instance where I can recall some people quite specifically saying "Eh, this one wasn't so great."
Besides, when only one viewpoint comes out of one person's mouth, that troubles you? It's called a "Special Comment"! He labels them so you know he's editorializing. You know what that is, don't you? Opinion pieces express an... opinion!
Anyway, the affection a lot of us have for Keith Olbermann isn't "bizarre". Watch Wolf Blitzer, Katie Couric, Joe Scarborough and Bill O'Reilly obfuscate, trivialize and shill for a few weeks and then watch one of Keith's Special Comments. Relative to just about any other commenter on TV, KO really does do something special.
As for "what it gets us", I can speak only for myself -- as I said earlier, in all honesty, I was really pissed about this whole MoveOn.org fake scandal, and my being pissed-off wasn't translating into any meaningful action. I was just pissed. As with many things, hearing someone else articulate some of the same things I've felt, in a very lucid and fairly eloquent way, made me feel better. It's a human thing. And now that I'm less pissed off, frankly, I'm more likely to translate the energy I have left into some kind of meaningful output, towards actually improving things.
So I would relax a bit, if I were you. It sounds like you're choosing an interpretation of people's words here, and then bemoaning that interpretation as if it were reality. Why not ask instead of assuming?
(By the way, my apologies for the brusqueness of my previous reply to you. As you can see, the wingnuts are coming around and crapping inside the house, and I wrongly assumed you were one of them. Grab a mop -- they're probably still skulking around, all covered in Cheeto dust and dried funk!)
I bet the incumbents are gonna FREAK in 2008 when most Republican AND Democratic incumbents are dumped for "fresh blood," which is just what our government needs. Elect more working-class people who know what everyday life in America is really all about! We need to start a movement to get all the "Faux Dems" taken out of office. These sorry-ass people all need to be investigated for their involvement in the Bush administration's war crimes, plain and simple!
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Right wingers who believe this policy is working... you definitely aren't off the hook. You might be off your rocker but the fact that you don't do your homework, the fact that you don't read, investigate and th very fact that you want to continue this policy of ignorance let me tell you, you're in worse shape than the Dems and Independents because you subcribe to war and lies and more war and more lies and it means you are locked away in the 9th century. There is a difference between protecting your country and provoking wars to change regimes or to steal assets and lives of other countries while using the backs of people who want to defend this country. You Republicans know the lie and you keep perpetuating it knowing that as long as you've percieved you've won, you'll sing the same refrain of more lies, more wars, more regime changes.
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Nice checks and balances when one party is in cohoots with the other, who's going to initiate any investigations.
We really are fucked. I mean really badly fucked. All our representatives and our media are on the take or muzzled by the current environment.
Perhaps KO's best ever BUT alas, Arse-Hole Bush probably only understood about 36% of it. Hey, that's the same as his popularity poll number and most certainly his IQ.
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Bye Bye :)
Keith nailed it once again. Too bad our Senators are not a smart as Keith. He is the only glimmer of the fourth estate we have in this country.
Did anyone notice Bush not once but twice in the early parts of this newser,refer to OUR government as "My government"?
here's the youtube
That pretty much tells us everything we really need to know about what he really thinks. He really thinks the government is his to do with as he wants. With that kind of mindset, it is not a long, nor a difficult leap to the 10 steps that Naomi Wolf points out. I had to print the article for fear that soon it will be blocked as subversive or treasonous. "His" government!!!! Yeah, that seems to be what is happening....of geroge, by george, and for george.
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BUCK FUSH
Repeatedly and vigorously from behind.
Goodnight Clavis. :)
Oh, and if the moderators decide to delete all the idiots (and, therefore, the responses to the idiots), no worries. These people are behaving as garbage -- non-recyclable garbage, too! -- and I have no problem with people taking out the garbage. Saves me the trouble!
[...] Crooks and Liars has it [...]
Preach on, brother Olbermann!
Preach on.
xoites -- Night -- thanks for the compliment! :)
Can you believe that dumbass Dubya still has 29% approval rating? I never realized that we had that many knuckled dragging, bottom feeding, troglodytes in the country. That is a lot of dumbasses.
[...] Olberman has a great piece on this, tonight. Watch this over at Crooks and Liars. [...]
Clavis -
> ... Night, all!
There's hope for you. That was actually polite!!!! Please return to this place again, you seem to have (barely) enough open-mindedness to hang out with us.
And thanks for the comments thread for this, C&L: I needed it! :)
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