Explain Your SCHIP Vote to the Children.
By bluegal Wednesday Sep 26, 2007 12:14pm
Eeek, Mommy! He wants to take my health insurance!
PBS Now: While 45 percent of all children in the United States are receiving some form of public medical assistance, nine million children are not covered by either public or private health care.
Bush opposes SCHIP, which provides health insurance to children. Children.
Rockridge Institute: Bush has a point. If 10 million American children are made healthy through a government managed program, the next thing you know some more of the 100 million or so uninsured or under-insured Americans might recognize that their health has been sacrificed on the altar of a private insurance industry that didn't even exist 70 years ago.
...But it appears some members [of Congress] tremble at the thought of defying the most unpopular president in modern American history.
The house passed the SCHIP bill, but there were not enough aye votes to override a promised Presidential veto.
Nancy Pelosi: "I speak with all of the sincerity and all of the hope to President Bush in the hope that he will change his mind." Nancy talked with Wolf Blitzer on SCHIP:
Public Action Campaign has an ad they're debuting against "Big Money Mitch" McConnell shaming him over picking big money donors over children's health.
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This is just terrible, especially compared to how much we're spending on Iraq. Sickening, pun intended.
Only the Chimp would deny health care to children and try to spin it into a philisophical reason for his decision. The boy-king is a piece of garbage.
Can't shame someone that doesn't have a soul or a conscience
shit, don't kid yourselves. nancy will be thrilled at bush's veto. just like she's happy as a clam that any iraq initiatives be voted down. because, then, it's the republicans' problem. tough shit about those soldiers and children who in the meantime suffer while congress plays their fucking games.
PELOSI: I've always said that impeachment is off the table. This is President Bush's war. It's Vice President Cheney's war and now it's become the war of the republicans in Congress.
hey pelosi, why dont you buy some knee pads then ask bush to change his mind..... knee pads for congress!
In no way would I defend him, bt you have to admit, that the bill was pushing it by setting the income level to $80,000. I know healthcare is expensive, but in an $80,000 year household, it can be done. It just gave him the perfect opportunity put it into the light that it was creeping towrds socialized medicine. I love how President Bush said he wanted the choices to be between the patient and their doctor - how many low income families have the same doctor each time they go to a free or low pay clinic?
Now this is interesting and I like it from the Dems.
Speaker Polosi breaks her vow of silence and comes out to the media table to place the President in front of the clear glass window for the American public to get a good look at.
I like this from Speaker Polosi. I would like to see some more pulic positioning of strenth, dignity and wisdom from the Dems and Speaker Polosi.............................
I don't want the republicans pathetic "we did it - not the democrats" bill - I want the original bill to get voted on again. If it still doesn't pass with a veto-proof majority - I hope it becomes a campaign issue with tremendous presence in all campaigns.
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republican point of view: kids don't vote. fuck 'em.
michael @ 9:
pretty much!
Children are only important to boosh when they're in utero, or in the Army.
Otherwise they're blamed for seducing "respectable" Republican congressmen.
Poor child in the above picture. Parents should know better.
A purification ceremony or even exorcism may now be appropriate.
C'mon, if it's a choice between HELPING kids at home or KILLING more of them in Iraq...
The repukes' ideal American (non-rich) citizen: a fetus. Their second fave: a baby who dies right after being born. Why the fuck should anybody care about something so helpless and useless, with such an uncertain return on investment?
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But if those kids survive until adulthood they'll sure be glad they weren't turned into little commies.
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The REAL problem is that the rich aren't happy with all their billions. They want ALL of YOUR money too!
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If the fraud doesn't support provision of health insurance to the 9 million children in this country who need it then it's time to definitely cut his purse strings on Iraq. If he can be such a misanthrope and poor excuse for a human being, then his amoral, illegal war of choice (blood for oil) needs to be halted immediately.
If all the little kids die. . . It's more money for the uber rich !
Hey, it's survival of the fittest ! Get used to it !
Rick Hunter @ 20:
Hate to tell you this but they've already taken all of your money and mine. It's called the national debt. Now they're eyeing our disposable income and soon they will have taken every citizen to the depths of poverty.
BTW, why the hell do we continue to pay this group of thugs anyway? Isn't it time for another "boston tea party", folks?
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Why increase the tax on just cigs? Why not increase the tax on booze while they're at it? Or chocolate? Hows about sex drugs/toys?
orion @ 23:
These tactics are the hallmarks of "Fascism". This country didn't go Fascist recently; we became Fascist when the Supreme Court installed our Dictator, GWB and swore him in, stopping the recount in Florida. We need to get Jebbie and Katherine Harris under oath on that one!
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Bu$h is a cold-hearted bastard! He has no concern for anyone but himself... sociopath? psychopath? However it's defined, he was raised without one ounce of compasssion or one iota of empathy. And the fact that he doesn't even have a clue as to how insulated he is, only adds to my disgust with this fellow inhabitant of this planet. I can't say he's a man because in my experience a real man doesn't behave the way he does. He's a tool!
“I speak ... to President Bush in the hope that he will change his mind.”
Un the freak BELIEVABLE.
Gee, I'm sure that's just what Ted Bundy's dates all said when they saw the knife coming at them.
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Well Madam Speaker, you should have impeached Bush when you had the chance. You might not have had to "beg" at all for a bill like healthcare for children. This is shameful for a supposedly world leading country where we cannot provide for our own children. On top of it, we're killing thousands of innocent people and our own men and women in a country for their oil that we no longer can afford. WTF?
Rick Hunter @ 28:
Was it your mental health care?
terrible. this guy won't explain why he opposes it? won't even give that?
Rick Hunter @ 20:
exactly! welcome to the world of corporate serfdom...
What's with the overexcited troll?
Rick Hunter @ 32:
you think so? really?
Fanon @ 37:
took too much speed and got ahold of a computer.
hadenuf @ 34:
BWAHAHAHA! My computer thanks you for the liberal dousing of coffee.
Trittydi @ 8:
It was President Bill Clinton who first suggested the State Children's Health Care Plan in his State of the Union address in January 1997, but CNN keeps trying to give credit to the Republican Congress of 1997. Clinton asked Congress for $16 billion to cover children through a combination of private insurance and expanding the Medicaid program. Then Democrat Edward Kennedy and Republican Sen. Orrin Hatch introduced a bill that would give states block grants to insure children.
On July 29, 1997 Bill Clinton sent the first balanced budget since 1969 to Congress. Included in that budget was 24 Billion Dollars for the Child Health Care Plan. The plan invested an unprecedented $24 billion to provide health care to the millions of children who were currently uninsured and represented the largest expansion of children's health care since the creation of Medicaid in 1965.
Do you think that the Republican's are gonna go out of their way to advance a Clinton program? They'll either try to hijack the program or kill it. The funding Bush is proposing won't even cover children who are currently on the program. It would take about $40 billion now to give the same coverage as the original $24 billion in 1997.
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Fanon @ 37:
His mom didn't given him his morning dose of Ritalin.
michael @ 9:
I think it is more like this: Republicans, they care deeply about us before we are born and right before we are about to die. On the meantime, we are on our own....
"But it appears some members [of Congress] tremble at the thought of defying the most unpopular president in modern American history." - Rockridge Institute
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Isn't that the truth! Half measures avail us not.
Rick Hunter @ 42:
Ew, you want Hillary as president?
Taxing smokers at sixty-one cents per pack to pay for SCHIP is an act of cowardice on the part of the Democrats. SCHIP is a worthwhile program and deserves to be funded from general revenues.
If you believe that smokers are uneducated, lower class people, as the anti-smoker propaganda would have it, then you would have to consider that sixty-one cents per pack is a highly regressive tax. And if you believe that raising the tax on cigarettes will encourage more smokers to quit, then you have to consider that SCHIP's funding is purposely being placed on an eroding tax base. Those considerations reflect neither fair taxation for Americans nor reliable funding for SCHIP.
The program is a good one. It deserves fair and reliable funding. What has been proposed so far is neither. The bill deserves to be vetoed, even if by the wrong person for the wrong reasons.
Dontcha love the way Busholini urged the UN to "spread democracy"?! We're so far behind in our membership dues to the UN that they should laugh in the asshole's face when he makes such declarations.
Instead of State Children Health Insurance Program how about we redub it State Health Insurance Terminated?
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Thanks for being so obviously obnoxious & not funny Rick Hunter.
It makes it very convenient to skip right over you.
omfg, that's harsh. That is the first time that I can recall Pelosi being so demonstrably against the president. She didn't pull punches when she said those statements are below the dignity of his office, she sliced his wounds with a lemony knife when she said she has five children of her own and took the gavel for her children, poured salt on the gash when she said she would haunt him with the legislation until he gives up this notion of 'common ground = you agree with me', and practically burried him when she taunted him to bring the debate over cigarette taxes versus children's with health care into the public forum with her. GO PELOSI! a hint of a spine, methinks...
and to kick him while he's down? when wolf says that Bush calls this argument a political tactic to shame him, she says that he's projecting his own failings onto her and the democrats. BLAM! good job Nancy... way to score a few points! finally someone found their fighting spirit, and she still handled it politely and coherently. it IS possible, YAY!
*happy dance all around the Capitol Hill*
Rick Hunter @ 50:
You are a riot, I tell you. Thanks. :lol:
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Stop feeding the troll!
hadenuf @ 51:
Don't take him so seriously, I'm sure he'll get deleted soon enough.
Dr. Acula @ 55:
why, i've got crackers for him to munch on.
Nancy Pelosi: “I speak with all of the sincerity and all of the hope to President Bush in the hope that he will change his mind.”
She's joking right? Does she know who she's dealing with? Where the fuck has she been the last 7 years. Hey Nancy - "hope" is not a plan. "Hope" is not a strategy. No balls - the whole fucking bunch of Democrats - absolutely no balls. I want a new Party goddamnit!
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Rick Hunter @ 59:
whatever floats your boat, brother. :)
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Rick Hunter @ 62:
if you say so, brother :)
Rick Hunter @ 61:
Jesus Christ! Just shut the fuck up, will ya Rick.
gene214 @ 58:
What do you expect them to do? They don't have enough to override his veto.
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Thank you for posting the link to PBS NOW
http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/327/index.html
It is one of the best informative news shows left on PBS.
We recall in 2005, when "CORPORATION for Public Broadcasting's Chairman Ken Tomlinson"
tried to suppress and attack the content of the show - for reporting the truth.
http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0621-22.htm
And for Tomlinson, millions of us had one word for him: ---> Resign.
What would John F. Kennedy have to say about an
open government and suppression of news if he was still alive?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkryNyxlubY
yes, thank you, captain obvious
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Professor Farnsworth @ 35:
Actually he gave a reason, a lame one, but he qualified it. In part, Congress gave him a bill that they knew he would veto. I partially blame cogress for setting that income level at $80,000 - they had to see that was going to get squashed under the guise of "it will cost too much" and "it's a backdoor attempt to spread socialized medicine"
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puffin @ 47:
A cigarrette tax is not the only source of funding, though, is it?
DailyKos
Bush Plays Chicken With Children's Health Care
by John Kerry
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/9/27/125917/038
Ricky Bones @ 71:
Ok, thanks.
Rick Hunter @ 70:
New Bumper Sticker
"I hated Bush BEFORE it was cool."
It's really something listening to the wing nut senators regretfully supporting SCHIP....it's like bamboo shoots under their finger nails doing something that would go against the decider...now the diaper guy who pays hookers is adding "his" an amendment to SCHIP making sure no illegal aliens get treated if they are sick...
These privatized health plans are destroying us. Whatever plans our political candidates come up with must be controlled, and monitored by the federal government and required to follow strict standards to even get these contracts or we are going to continue to suffer the fate we now find ourselves in. There should be NO room for closed door policies that these private companies think they should be able to do without watchful eye's as it is now done through out the federal system, which is why most well thinking Americans want it that way in the first place. We must control our system or lose it.
First of all these recent problems we have incountered, with these corporations that do not want to provide medical coverage for their workers, because they would negicoate a contract with their employee's and their unions and agree on the cost of the various plans, then these corporations, instead of taking the money that should have been set aside for the workers health services, they would use it to run the company without the knowledge of the employee or the unions and when the company would bellie up, so would all the money that should not have been used in the first place and the same things have been going on with the retirement funds, without any federal intervention and this crap is handeled all wrong and it is the main reason these people do not want government intervention involved in the first place, because they would not be allowed to do that.
It is amazing how many of our political officials are doctors and we are going through this crap. A good portion of the congress members carry doctor in their titles. They seem to know very little about our constitution and bill of rights and I would venture to say that is not the real reason many of them slipped into our federal system in the first place.
Congressman Tom Price Republican of Georgia, has the nerve to use his Congressional letter head with the title of Dr. on it and I do believe that he has the title doctor on his congressional door to his office, paid for by the tax payers in this country. This is a violation folks and so this other bigot Phil Gingrey Republican of Georgia as they and many others are tied to this cult to continue to assist Bush in his efforts to privatize our health system and drive American people right to their deaths, because of their inability to afford health care. Republican Senator Frisk of Tenn was also a good old boy in this scam and when the spot light was turned on his ass, he got out.
American people should be tired of the games these people are playing while they control our system and make life hell unessary for American people, because of greed.
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Puffin @ 47
Republicans aren't against the 61 cent tax on Cigarettes because it will hurt the poor, they are against a 61 cent tax because it will hurt the big tobacco companies who are huge contributors to the campaigns of Mitch McConnell and John Boehner. Much of the Republican opposition to increasing the SCHIP program is about tobacco.
In late June of 1995 now Minority Leader John Boehner handed out checks from the political action committee of tobacco company Brown & Williamson Corp., to fellow Republicans on the floor of the House.
In 2000, Mitch McConnell lead the effort to kill the McCain tobacco control bill.
Rick Hunter @ 79:
it's raining men, hallelujah, it's raining men.
Rick Hunter @ 59:
Actually we can blame a lot of the airport delays for Reagan's pushing out the air controller's union back in the 80's. Kind of ironic considering he was the former head of a union, the SAG and so love unions, as long as they were Polish and called Solidarnosc. Since then the equipment has been aging along with the rest of our infrastructure partially due to tax breaks for the wealthy.
Oh yes, and everytime boosh shows up on TV, I'm sure dogs are puking on the owner's carpets everywhere.
ysbaddaden,
It's Bush's gfault because he's to blame for everything!
He's evil and all powerful!
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and eating it back up.
Rick Hunter @ 84:
It's Raining Men! Every Specimen!
Tall, blonde, dark and lean
Rough and tough and strong and mean
Pretty obvious the only person with simplistic opinions on this site is the one accusing the site of being simplistic.
indeed. :)
I know this is off subject but I watched this interview can somebody tell me why is impeachment of the table.That is part of her job impeachment is never off the table what the hell is wrong with this new dem party.The repubs tried to impeach clinton for lying about a blow job and this man(bush) has took away our rights took to a bogus ass war and she's taking impeachment off the table.Why is there no outcry about this she is not doing her job.
repub voters think lottery-like blessings are just around the corner if they vote for "pro life" candidate while they sit at home not being able to afford to take their kids to the doctor, pay for college or their home heating bills
jr @ 90:
I'd love to see a figure on how many uninsured Americans voted for Busholini.
aw...and here, I thought I drove him away with my "The Weather Girls" lyrics.
look, the kids only need to live long enough to serve in the army.. maybe 25-30 years, tops. If they're too weak to make it to enlistment age on their own, then they'd be too weak to make good soldiers.
we'll ration our healthcare to the elite class. It's much simpler that way.
Ricky Bones @ 71:
Congress didn't set that limit. That was supposedly a limit requested by New York State, and that limit was denied. People forget that this program is for the working poor, not those who are at income levels where they would qualify for Medicaid.
Working poor means different things in different places. To qualify for a one bedroom apartment in San Francisco requires an income of $66,000 per year. That wouldn't be an apartment in a great neighborhood. That same income would get you a lot more elsewhere in the country.
Carmikl @ 94:
I live in NY state and it is expnsive to live here, but I know people making it on less - they must be considering those in and around the city.
Rick Hunter @ 42:
you related to Mike Hunter?
Expecting the government to coddle us with socialized medicine has the effect of weakening our freedoms, strenghtening government tyranny, and weakening the quality oif medice. Iy will take us down the road to communism. America has the best health care system in the world- and it is the duty of the parents- not the taxpayers- to provide them with health care coverage. Why should my tax dollars be spent on kids Ive never met? Liberals need to stop being so greedy and look at the big picture.
Hey let's not get mad over this.
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