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Clarence Thomas, oddball

Remember the old expression, "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt"?

Apparently, no one's told Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas about this. At a Fedearlist Society gathering last night, he told the audience, “It’s me! I see myself moving around! Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!”

It doesn't exactly inspire confidence, now does it?



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Hey, it's better than ripping off pickup lines from 'The Exorcist.'

What an idiot.

That's probably the only thing Clarence Thomas has ever said that I don't find objectionable.

He was just confused by the magic picture box. He thought it was stealing his soul.

What a bunch of anti justites.

To paraphrase Bill Murray in Ghostbusters, "Clarence has gone bye-bye, Antonin. What have you got left?"

Ahhhhh! Take the jack-0-latern off the porch! It's Nov 16th!

uncle tom is becoming unhinged.....but then, why should he be any different than the rest of the party?

he's not a sociopath like Bush...he's more of an introverted delusionary

That's a scary picture. Surely "Long Dong Silver" Thomas has taken a better one in his lifetime.

Oddball, goofball, and one of the worst Judges ever. How about the fact that he very rarely says anything or asks any questions while cases are being heard by the SCOTUS. This jerk is beyond pathetic, just like Reagan he is touted as some great person when in fact he is a putz.

He looks like the oppresive Mister from The Color Purple. How fitting.

I'm guessing that Scalia said it first.

A life time appointment for a madman:
"When you are born in the world you are given a ticket to the freak show. When you are born in America you are given a front row seat!" - George Carlin ...

He's the Jack T. Ripper of the Supreme Court.

There is a lot of fear and hate in that face. A true conservative.

***"With 1,800 members crowding Union Station, the president of the United States on the dais and four Supreme Court justices singing its praises***

can you imagine the reichwing hysteria we'd all be suffering now if four supreme court justices attended an aclu dinner, singing its high praises in defense of the constitution of the united states.

linda @ 16:

***"With 1,800 members crowding Union Station, the president of the United States on the dais and four Supreme Court justices singing its praises***

can you imagine the reichwing hysteria we'd all be suffering now if four supreme court justices attended an aclu dinner, singing its high praises in defense of the constitution of the united states.

What an excellent point.

Ruthless People @ 11:

He looks like the oppresive Mister from The Color Purple. How fitting.

Looks more like "King Kong" himself.

....from one brotha to anotha!

Wow, sometimes it takes weeks for something this nit-picky to show up on the pages of Crooks and Liars. Way to make me feel sorry for Clarence Thomas, posting some guy from the WP following him around like a Bill O'really goon, and covering his talk like a Fox News monkey. There is a way to make a point well, and this is not it.

I wish the liberal media would stop denigrating this man. We get it. You think Clarence Thomas is the dumb affirmative action negro on the the Supreme Court. He aint got no brain. He is just a coon and a handkerchief head shining the boots of Antonin Scalia. Enuff already.

Liberals somehow feel free to ascribe every racist stereotypical image to Justice Thomas they claim conservatives believe about most blacks. Clarence Thomas is a brilliant man who was indeed the victim of a high tech lynching. Justice Thomas is reticent during during oral arguments, not because he is a dunce, but because of his conviction that heated exchanges during oral arguments are often disrespectful to the attorneys trying to present their cases. Thomas prefers a more cerebral, quieter environment in which to carefully contemplate matters of constitutional law. This is a matter of style; not substance. Justice Thomas authored several Supreme Court concurrences and dissenting opinions. He is his own man and differed from Scalia on fundamental Constitutional issues such as stare decisis; the Establishment Clause(elk grove v. newdow); and the use of medical marijuanaz(gonzales v raich).

Looks more like “King Kong” himself.

Yeah, thanks for making my point RP

mrogi, please stop saying things like the liberal media it makes you sound foolish. Other than that I take your point.

mrogi: too bad Anita Hill was telling the truth.
Any woman who has been through sexual harrassment know she was telling the truth.
You cant make up the stuff these guys say. Really, how could you make up 'pubic hair on a Coke can'?
That just rang so true to me, because it was exactly like (with differing detail) every single other case of sexual harassment I've ever been through or heard about.
He might have been drunk or hungover at the time, but......

Thomas should have, at the very least, been subject to drug and alcohol testing for and in this job, for the rest of his life.

And to think the folks who laud Clarence Thomas are the same kind of folks who approved the assassination of Martin Luther King.

Lord, how the mighty are fallen, but then again, Clarence didn't have far to fall.

MRT @ 21:

Looks more like “King Kong” himself.

Yeah, thanks for making my point RP

Ya mean this? The implication that Kong stands for the black man brought in chains from a dark island full of murderous primitive pagans and with a penchant for skinny white blondes.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/12/images/051214_king_kong.jpg

“It’s me! I see myself moving around! Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!”

Well, its a step up from "Who has put this pubic hair on my Coke?"

L.A. Confidential @ 25:

MRT @ 21:

Looks more like “King Kong” himself.

Yeah, thanks for making my point RP

Ya mean this? The implication that Kong stands for the black man brought in chains from a dark island full of murderous primitive pagans and with a penchant for skinny white blondes.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/12/images/051214_king_kong.jpg

Don't play the racist card on me I happen to be like Elvis and Clinton. Black with white skin.

Oddball?

He's a failed human being on almost every level - he's pathetic.
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America's Fascist would appoint conservative activist judges in the mold of Thomas and Scalia
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071117/ap_on_el_pr/giuliani_federalists

Hmmm, sounds like something a stoned person would say and do. Maybe he's finishing off the rest Renquist's stash.

so he is a little wacky...who cares??

what i care about is his book, which shows that he has a huge chip on his shoulder about the cards he was dealt in life...and he has taken that chip with him into the court

he should never have made it through the process

his picture reminds me of Calibos from Clash of the Titans!

He's not an oddball . . . he's a fruit cake.

Clarence is insane and sees dead people. He's lost his mine and is trying to explain to his dead Grandfather and his Mother why he sold out. He's still got the hots for Anita and only brings up her name in hopes she will remember him. Clarence was given the job as Justice when he knew he wasn't qualified and now the other Justices know it too. Most of the GOP only play up to Thomas but behind his back their laughing. He is given the memo on who//how to vote. He can't write an opinion because he's stupid. Just another Al Gonzales. The GOP are good when they find losers to appoint that way they have no problems with questions.

Straight Shooter @ 24:

And to think the folks who laud Clarence Thomas are the same kind of folks who approved the assassination of Martin Luther King.

This truth is relevant and often overlooked. But then he's completely their tool of course.
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mrogi @ 20:

I wish the liberal media would stop denigrating this man. We get it. You think Clarence Thomas is the dumb affirmative action negro on the the Supreme Court. He aint got no brain. He is just a coon and a handkerchief head shining the boots of Antonin Scalia. Enuff already.

Liberals somehow feel free to ascribe every racist stereotypical image to Justice Thomas they claim conservatives believe about most blacks. Clarence Thomas is a brilliant man who was indeed the victim of a high tech lynching. Justice Thomas is reticent during during oral arguments, not because he is a dunce, but because of his conviction that heated exchanges during oral arguments are often disrespectful to the attorneys trying to present their cases. Thomas prefers a more cerebral, quieter environment in which to carefully contemplate matters of constitutional law. This is a matter of style; not substance. Justice Thomas authored several Supreme Court concurrences and dissenting opinions. He is his own man and differed from Scalia on fundamental Constitutional issues such as stare decisis; the Establishment Clause(elk grove v. newdow); and the use of medical marijuanaz(gonzales v raich).

wtf?!

“You know, it’s really hard to talk up here when this guy in front of me keeps moving,” Thomas announced early in his speech... “It’s me! I see myself moving around!” Thomas explained, then let out a resonant laugh: “Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!” He continued: “This guy keeps moving around in front of me. Jeez! At any rate, stop looking at this guy in front of me! Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! You look at it and think, it’s too much of a good thing!”

Clarence Thomas, U.S. Supreme Court. One crazy motherscrubber.

And I don't think he deserves one BIT of slack. His po' 'lil me shit rings very hollow when he is such a glory hound. With WHAT PRICE did he think comes fame and power? A little scrutiny of past shenanigans with women? Unveiling a mediocre scholarly career and grades?

Makes me want to scream, "HEY DIPSHIT! You made it -- you're one of the most powerful men on earth! Drop the whiney bitch act already and just do the job! You don't think EVERYONE else has to run the gauntlet, or are YOU just too good for it? If you think people aren't giving you credit for your intellect: WRITE BETTER FUCKING OPINIONS." Heck the average white male is screwed by the system FAR worse than Clarence was in the confirmation hearings in the course of normal life. Such a stale, and insubstantial complaint. Not to mention, his past behavior has since been back up by other witnesses.

Wouldn't sink in though, I realize. That is some VERY deep seated insecurity. Dangerous, even. Worse of all, he really IS mediocre... rather than accept it (like the rest of us do) he blames is lack of ability on the job on everyone else. That rage will never go away, because he cannot be something he isn't, and isn't willing to just be who he is. I wish I had 60 years more of life, 50 more I.Q. points, and 40 pounds more muscle mass... just ain't gonna happen at this point. But you don't see me going apeshit in public, blaming everyone at hand about it...

“It’s me! I see myself moving around! Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!”

This sounds like some shit Homer Simpson would say!

mrogi

So Clarence Thomas is an individual who weighs legal questions with an open, jurisprudent mind? If you're not a complete imbecile and bother to look at his voting record you will see that he was one of the five criminal justices who installed George W. Bush in office without bothering to wait for a vote count, thereby enabling a depraved, degenerate piece of human filth to take the highest office in the land and commit genocide on a huge scale, called for the anti-Constitutional placement of religion (specifically Christian) in the government, and consistently refused to hear dubiuous capital punishment cases among his many other CRIMES. You can take Mr. Tambourine Man (a close relative of Topsy Rice) and shove him up your ass.

At least he didn’t say, “What the hell is that black man doing here?”

I am still trying to figure out where the hell they can dig up black people like this guy.

Quite possibly the most bitter man on the planet.

purvis ames @ 39:
unkind remarks redacted

While acknowledging that we have differing political viewpoints, let's be civil. After all, we are both Americans who still share a deep, profound and abiding love of American values such as team sports, pizza, cold beer, and nekkid strippers with big boobs.

swarmofkillermonkeys @ 37:

“You know, it’s really hard to talk up here when this guy in front of me keeps moving,” Thomas announced early in his speech... “It’s me! I see myself moving around!” Thomas explained, then let out a resonant laugh: “Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!” He continued: “This guy keeps moving around in front of me. Jeez! At any rate, stop looking at this guy in front of me! Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! You look at it and think, it’s too much of a good thing!”

Clarence Thomas, U.S. Supreme Court. One crazy motherscrubber.

And I don't think he deserves one BIT of slack. His po' 'lil me shit rings very hollow when he is such a glory hound. With WHAT PRICE did he think comes fame and power? A little scrutiny of past shenanigans with women? Unveiling a mediocre scholarly career and grades?

Makes me want to scream, "HEY DIPSHIT! You made it -- you're one of the most powerful men on earth! Drop the whiney bitch act already and just do the job! You don't think EVERYONE else has to run the gauntlet, or are YOU just too good for it? If you think people aren't giving you credit for your intellect: WRITE BETTER FUCKING OPINIONS." Heck the average white male is screwed by the system FAR worse than Clarence was in the confirmation hearings in the course of normal life. Such a stale, and insubstantial complaint. Not to mention, his past behavior has since been back up by other witnesses.

Wouldn't sink in though, I realize. That is some VERY deep seated insecurity. Dangerous, even. Worse of all, he really IS mediocre... rather than accept it (like the rest of us do) he blames is lack of ability on the job on everyone else. That rage will never go away, because he cannot be something he isn't, and isn't willing to just be who he is. I wish I had 60 years more of life, 50 more I.Q. points, and 40 pounds more muscle mass... just ain't gonna happen at this point. But you don't see me going apeshit in public, blaming everyone at hand about it...

You really had me until you started your own poor white male whining. If the system has screwed white males so bad, plenty of women and people of color would love to be screwed like that too.

judge coke can violator needs to spend more time with his family

L.A. Confidential @ 27:

L.A. Confidential @ 25:

MRT @ 21:

Looks more like “King Kong” himself.

Yeah, thanks for making my point RP

Ya mean this? The implication that Kong stands for the black man brought in chains from a dark island full of murderous primitive pagans and with a penchant for skinny white blondes.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/12/images/051214_king_kong.jpg

Don't play the racist card on me I happen to be like Elvis and Clinton. Black with white skin.

elvis hated black people and Clinton executed as many he could get on death row. try the righteous brothers or something else. I'm black and the imagery IS RACIST! You don't get a pass. You sound like a ron paul fan.

CoIntelPro @ 46:

L.A. Confidential @ 27:

apologies LAC, I meant that for id10ts 18 and 21.

motorfingaz @ 18:

Ruthless People @ 11:

He looks like the oppresive Mister from The Color Purple. How fitting.

Looks more like "King Kong" himself.

....from one brotha to anotha!

MRT @ 21:

Looks more like “King Kong” himself.

Yeah, thanks for making my point RP

what kind of racist bullshit is this?

why don't you go back to huffpo or abcblog?

CoIntelPro,
Will bet that Bush executed more people of color than anyone, hahah.

Seriously, most think Clinton was our first black president.

Dont know if Elvis liked black people or not, he ripped off their music.
But he also opened the door for them in Memphis at Sun records.

waaaaaaaaaaanker!

shano @ 49:

CoIntelPro,
Will bet that Bush executed more people of color than anyone, hahah.

Seriously, most think Clinton was our first black president.

I understand that. :)
Bill was simply a far more beneficent republican than any Democrat could be at the time. He actually was 3rd behind the fla. and tex. in executions and his state was third-last in education behind alabama and mississippi.

Just add sax and sex and you get the myth of his greatness and association with minorities and the downtrodden. I don't hate Bill. He's just a smoother liar than the repugs and with no trace of hate, just smiling indifference. Clinton is what the booshes wished they could be.

shano @ 50:

Dont know if Elvis liked black people or not, he ripped off their music.
But he also opened the door for them in Memphis at Sun records.

quote from elvis after he refused to go on stage after James Brown (his opening act at the time): "he couldn't shine my shoes" I can't give you the entire context for that, but it was said to have occurred after Elvis that night was asked if the reason he would not perform was the sensational opening act.

I believe Elvis mellowed later and grew as a person and performer. He never made up with James Brown, as far as I remember. They could have kept each other off drugs.

Hype-Jersey @ 42:

Quite possibly the most bitter man on the planet.

someone left a pubic hair in his coke.

Jackie @ 34:

... He's lost his mined....

Sorry, you were off to a bad start and got progressively worse.

mrogi @ 20:

let's cut to the chase here: clarence was absofuckinglutely the first and onliest sumbitch to refer the the sexual prowess of a black man in any federal hearing for anyone nominated for any federal office in the history of there hyah united fucking states!

Don't get me wrong but :lol:

he might also be the only black nominee to federal office who was known by the black community to hate black americans and the fact that he was himself black.

He actually has written an opinion or two after a ruling and said written opinions have been the subject of a godawful amount of questioning as to whether he actually knows any law.

but hey, type what you want. I get a good laugh out of you. really!

Hype-Jersey @ 44:

swarmofkillermonkeys @ 37:

“You know, it’s really hard to talk up here when this guy in front of me keeps moving,” Thomas announced early in his speech... “It’s me! I see myself moving around!” Thomas explained, then let out a resonant laugh: “Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!” He continued: “This guy keeps moving around in front of me. Jeez! At any rate, stop looking at this guy in front of me! Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! You look at it and think, it’s too much of a good thing!”

Clarence Thomas, U.S. Supreme Court. One crazy motherscrubber.

And I don't think he deserves one BIT of slack. His po' 'lil me shit rings very hollow when he is such a glory hound. With WHAT PRICE did he think comes fame and power? A little scrutiny of past shenanigans with women? Unveiling a mediocre scholarly career and grades?

Makes me want to scream, "HEY DIPSHIT! You made it -- you're one of the most powerful men on earth! Drop the whiney bitch act already and just do the job! You don't think EVERYONE else has to run the gauntlet, or are YOU just too good for it? If you think people aren't giving you credit for your intellect: WRITE BETTER FUCKING OPINIONS." Heck the average white male is screwed by the system FAR worse than Clarence was in the confirmation hearings in the course of normal life. Such a stale, and insubstantial complaint. Not to mention, his past behavior has since been back up by other witnesses.

Wouldn't sink in though, I realize. That is some VERY deep seated insecurity. Dangerous, even. Worse of all, he really IS mediocre... rather than accept it (like the rest of us do) he blames is lack of ability on the job on everyone else. That rage will never go away, because he cannot be something he isn't, and isn't willing to just be who he is. I wish I had 60 years more of life, 50 more I.Q. points, and 40 pounds more muscle mass... just ain't gonna happen at this point. But you don't see me going apeshit in public, blaming everyone at hand about it...

You really had me until you started your own poor white male whining. If the system has screwed white males so bad, plenty of women and people of color would love to be screwed like that too.

Say what? What makes you think I'm white?

"Justice" Thomas is a lunatic, halfwit, and fool, an Uncle Tom bumpkin carefully selected by the Arbusto Bunch to compliment Antonin Scalia, who keeps such a tight asshole he hasn't shit in ten years. Watch the voting. Thomas will NEVER cast a vote in opposition to Scalia, his mentor (and mind). Read the David Brock book, Blinded by the Right. The chapters on Anita Hill and the concentrated effort of the neocons to destroy her credibility and ram Thomas down the throats of the Judiciary Committee leave one convinced that (1) Thomas is loony perve addicted to porno (though he lies about it), (2) he really did tell Hill she'd "put a pubic hair on [his] Coke can," (3) Thomas's handlers provided him with the now-famous statement that he'd been subjected to a "high tech lynching" (the man is too fucking dumb to dream this one up on his own!), and (4) he's a shameful lout and poor replacement for the great Thurgood Marshall. Hey, as for the TV monitor incident at his speech, what can you expect from someone appointed by a Bush? Arbusto himself is so dumb he can't open a door.

Roket @ 40:

At least he didn’t say, “What the hell is that black man doing here?”

:lol:

The point that you may have missed being: he called the confirmation hearings a "high-tech lynching" becuase they pointed out that many women (besides Anita) had mentioned to their employers that he was making strange sexual comments to them years before the hearings.

I say: tough shit. That is NO lynching. He wasn't persecuted because he was black and he knows it! That shit down in Jena is a lynching. Poor little Clarence just had a tough job interview, got the job anyway (for LIFE) and is STILL bitter about it. If/When Obama is nominated to the Supreme Court we'll hear all kinds of nasty shit thrown against him too. Or a woman. Or a jew. Or a white male that isn't conservative. Or a __________. Are you just not paying attention? It's what the Republicans (and half the Dems) do! Their reason for existence -- they fling shit on people in order to gain power and pork for their corporate sponsors.

If he has mistreatment in his past, he should lay his hate at the feet of those that hurt him, not just those that happen to be around him. And I'm sure he did have a rough past. But that confirmation hearing just wasn't anything compared to the shit EVERYBODY else goes through in life. (And if you think suffering only happens to people without white skin, you're a damned moron and a racist. Money and favors make the world go round, my friend.)

I'm tired of him blaming everyone else for his own misdeeds and incompetence, using race as a lever.

"If the system has screwed white males so bad, plenty of women and people of color would love to be screwed like that too."

You mean, like going to Yale and being appointed to the Supreme Court despite being irrationally full of hate, under-qualified, and a sexual harasser? Yeah, I'm sure we would ALL love to be screwed like that. Yeah, I bet even white folks...

People that have been on this web site long enough should already know that being white or male is no panacea. The crooks and liars take all shapes and forms. I think it's time we moved past "hating white males will solve all our problems". Mostly because it simply isn't true...

swarmofkillermonkeys @ 57:

Hype-Jersey @ 44:

swarmofkillermonkeys @ 37:

Say what? What makes you think I'm white?

swarm?
killer?
certainly NOT monkeys!
:lol:

James M. Martin @ 58:

"Justice" Thomas is a lunatic, halfwit, and fool, an Uncle Tom bumpkin carefully selected by the Arbusto Bunch to compliment Antonin Scalia, who keeps such a tight asshole he hasn't shit in ten years. Watch the voting. Thomas will NEVER cast a vote in opposition to Scalia, his mentor (and mind). Read the David Brock book, Blinded by the Right. The chapters on Anita Hill and the concentrated effort of the neocons to destroy her credibility and ram Thomas down the throats of the Judiciary Committee leave one convinced that (1) Thomas is loony perve addicted to porno (though he lies about it), (2) he really did tell Hill she'd "put a pubic hair on [his] Coke can," (3) Thomas's handlers provided him with the now-famous statement that he'd been subjected to a "high tech lynching" (the man is too fucking dumb to dream this one up on his own!), and (4) he's a shameful lout and poor replacement for the great Thurgood Marshall. Hey, as for the TV monitor incident at his speech, what can you expect from someone appointed by a Bush? Arbusto himself is so dumb he can't open a door.

OK! Now tell us how you REALLY feel... :lol:

shano @ 49:

CoIntelPro,
Will bet that Bush executed more people of color than anyone, hahah.

Seriously, most think Clinton was our first black president.

Most who? Did you poll MOST of those people? That was something said by someone notable/famous and then a comedian or two put it in a few bits and suddenly people think that it was a consensus; it was not.

MOST of those you're talking about would never say something so stupid.

Thomas is a dick!!

swarmofkillermonkeys @ 60:

The point that you may have missed being: he called the confirmation hearings a "high-tech lynching" becuase they pointed out that many women (besides Anita) had mentioned to their employers that he was making strange sexual comments to them years before the hearings.

I say: tough shit. That is NO lynching. He wasn't persecuted because he was black and he knows it! That shit down in Jena is a lynching. Poor little Clarence just had a tough job interview, got the job anyway (for LIFE) and is STILL bitter about it. If/When Obama is nominated to the Supreme Court we'll hear all kinds of nasty shit thrown against him too. Or a woman. Or a jew. Or a white male that isn't conservative. Or a __________. Are you just not paying attention? It's what the Republicans (and half the Dems) do! Their reason for existence -- they fling shit on people in order to gain power and pork for their corporate sponsors.

If he has mistreatment in his past, he should lay his hate at the feet of those that hurt him, not just those that happen to be around him. And I'm sure he did have a rough past. But that confirmation hearing just wasn't anything compared to the shit EVERYBODY else goes through in life. (And if you think suffering only happens to people without white skin, you're a damned moron and a racist. Money and favors make the world go round, my friend.)

I'm tired of him blaming everyone else for his own misdeeds and incompetence, using race as a lever.

"If the system has screwed white males so bad, plenty of women and people of color would love to be screwed like that too."

You mean, like going to Yale and being appointed to the Supreme Court despite being irrationally full of hate, under-qualified, and a sexual harasser? Yeah, I'm sure we would ALL love to be screwed like that. Yeah, I bet even white folks...

People that have been on this web site long enough should already know that being white or male is no panacea. The crooks and liars take all shapes and forms. I think it's time we moved past "hating white males will solve all our problems". Mostly because it simply isn't true...

Like another poster said to someone else, you had me until the poor white male song started playing. White males still have it easier than non-whites and women. That's just the way it is. Acknowledging that generality doesn't mean one is ignoring the trials and tribulations individuals may go through. However, when studies come out showing that a Black man without a criminal record, or a white man with a criminal history, is three times more likely to be considered for a job than a Black man with a criminal record. you have to stop pretending the playing field is level... or keep pretending but expect to be called on it.

Isome says:

Like another poster said to someone else, you had me until the poor white male song started playing. White males still have it easier than non-whites and women. That’s just the way it is. Acknowledging that generality doesn’t mean one is ignoring the trials and tribulations individuals may go through. However, when studies come out showing that a Black man without a criminal record, or a white man with a criminal history, is three times more likely to be considered for a job than a Black man with a criminal record. you have to stop pretending the playing field is level… or keep pretending but expect to be called on it.

What "poor white male song"? Pointing out that Thomas' past showing up in the confirmation process was comparatively TRIVIAL, and NOT BASED ON RACE? But rather his own actions? Did you even read what I wrote? Your (and the other poster's) assumptions make a mockery of you.

What does any of this have to do with Thomas, and his claims of "lynching"? Are you trying to make some half-hearted appeal to affirmative action on his behalf or something? You know he HATES the idea right? That's kind of the whole point. I will say it again, "Thomas is a damn hypocrite for playing the race card inappropriately in his confirmation, yet striking down the affirmative action opportunities for everyone else. What he went through (being confronted with his past mistakes) is something EVERYONE black or white has to go though in life, at the least!"

"you have to stop pretending the playing field is level… or keep pretending but expect to be called on it"

Where did I ever say the playing field was level? I sure as hell don't think it is. I do however, KNOW, that the major obstacles to a fair shot at life are poverty and lack of education. Not race. Racism will always be a factor (cutting in all directions); more in some areas that others. But I hardly see you "calling me" on anything. Just more misguided assumptions and some tangent about white men with criminal records... whatever that has to do with the topic at hand.

Relate your statement somehow to what I was saying about Thomas, and maybe you have some sort of point. But I sure don't see that yet. Without money, there is no guarantee of opportunity. Without education, you will most likely fail to make the best of an opportunity. Discounting rare luck, you'll need both to have a good chance at success, I don't care what you look like. And don't quote some damn random statistics to me if you going to change the subject more generally to racism alone to make an argument. It isn't convincing or relevant in the least. Learn WHY that statistic exists. Why recidivism is so much higher in black communities (showing a measurable difference in those two rap sheets). And what needs to change to rectify that situation. But ultimately you're wasting your breath trying to talk me in to supporting affirmative action -- I already do. You'll need to have a chat with poor little Clarence though, as he will strike it down wherever he can. Short-sighted if you ask me (see education, poverty again).

By the way, a "liberal elite" review of Thomas' book... still pretty interesting. Points out the main flaw with Thomas. He thinks always being contrary means the same thing as always thinking independently. It just isn't so; in fact, it makes you a puppet on a string. I think there are FAR better representatives of Frederick Douglass among us, that understand his intent rather than just appropriating his words.

And a diehard friend of Rush Limbaugh and Cheney, he'll be there at least another 10 years... enjoy!

"Elvis hated black people"

That has got to be the most sacrilegious remark ever made in this forum.
http://www.snopes.com/music/artists/presley1.asp

mrog:

Thomas is exactly what the rest of the Bush administration is: a C student who wants to get even with all those A and B students who outshone him. He is a failure who somehow got promoted above his intellectual capabilities. He hasn't had an original thought in his life and he is a self-hating black man. That anyone should revere him or laud his lack of accomplishments is scary. If you look in the dictionary under the word mediocrity, you will find his picture.

goddamnit, i'm sick of that motherfucker.

CoIntelPro @ 61:

swarmofkillermonkeys @ 57:

Hype-Jersey @ 44:

swarmofkillermonkeys @ 37:

Say what? What makes you think I'm white?

swarm?
killer?
certainly NOT monkeys!
:lol:

Judge my swarm of killer monkeys by the content of their little characters, not by the color of their fur! (...and then try to forgive them anyway...) ;)

Wow. How did I miss the interesting half of this thread? Bizarre King Kong references, insisting Clinton was black, and Elvis hated black people! Just wow.

As far as Elvis though, since James Brown later talked about how close he felt to Elvis, I don't see how that myth ever got any traction. I'm no Elvis fan, but I know he grew up poor, crossed the color barrier and just fell in love with gospel music. From the time he was little he would go to (and be welcomed in) traditionally black churches.

I guess you could call that "ripping off"... but I just don't see it that way. Especially with music. Music IS. You don't steal music by falling in love with it! It isn't a finite quantity. You share it. Music divides and grows, multiplies and spreads. Music is an idea. Wouldn't it be wrong for Elvis NOT to play the gospel music that he loved so much, just because of his color?

Anyway, there is little doubt that radical groups in the 70s tried to demonize Elvis (and near anything else) to try to rally power for themselves as "leaders of the black power movement" after the death of Dr. King. By spreading lies about Elvis they tried to divide, to hurt and to hate. And it often worked for them... for a while, anyway. But it sure didn't help the country move forward. If nothing else, Elvis almost singlehandedly began the de-segregation of music:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis :
When "That's All Right" was played, many listeners were sure Presley must be black. Therefore, white disc-jockeys wouldn't touch Presley's Sun singles. On the other hand, Negroes' music and the Negro disc-jockeys didn't want anything to do with a record made by a white man."[67] To some, Presley had undoubtedly "stolen" or at least "derived his style from the Negro rhythm-and-blues performers of the late 1940s."[68] "Racists attacked rock and roll because of the mingling of black and white people it implied and achieved, and because of what they saw as black music's power to corrupt through vulgar and animalistic rhythms... The popularity of Elvis Presley was similarly founded on his transgressive position with respect to racial and sexual boundaries... it seems that many Americans wanted black music without the black people in it."[69]
[...]
In 1957, Presley was alleged to have said: "The only thing Negro people can do for me is to buy my records and shine my shoes." The singer always denied saying, or ever wanting to say, such a racist remark. Jet magazine, run by and for African-Americans, subsequently investigated the story and found no basis to the claim. However, the Jet journalist did find plenty of testimony that Presley judged people "regardless of race, color or creed."[79]

Found these other interesting quotes:

"Without preamble, the three-piece band cuts loose. In the spotlight, the lanky singer flails furious rhythms on his guitar, every now and then breaking a string. In a pivoting stance, his hips swing sensuously from side to side and his entire body takes on a frantic quiver, as if he had swallowed a jackhammer.” -- Time Magazine, May 15, 1956

"His kind of music is deplorable, a rancid smelling aphrodisiac...It fosters almost totally negative and destructive reactions in young people." -- Frank Sinatra, 1950's (shame on you Frank)

“A lot of people have accused Elvis of stealing the black man’s music, when in fact, almost every black solo entertainer copied his stage mannerisms from Elvis.” -- Jackie Wilson

“You know, Bush is always comparing me to Elvis in sort of unflattering ways. I don’t think Bush would have liked Elvis very much, and that’s just another thing that’s wrong with him.” -- Bill Clinton, During the 1992 presidential campaign.

“I wasn’t just a fan, I was his brother. He said I was good and I said he was good; we never argued about that. Elvis was a hard worker, dedicated, and God loved him. Last time I saw him was at Graceland. We sang Old Blind Barnabus together, a gospel song. I love him and hope to see him in heaven. There’ll never be another like that soul brother." -- James Brown

Justice Thomas shows that white people do not have a monopoly on corruption and/or lack of critical thinking / integrity...add to Uncle Clarence, Uncle Collin and Aunt Condi. You would think that after 100 years of American Apartheid they would want to defend the Constitution, human rights and civil rights, instead they defend the rights of non-human corporations and their lobbies, i.e., "people" who put profits over justice and fair play. The human race is divided into those who want to bring up the collective whole and those who are afraid and thus greedy. Justice Thomas is afraid, he's afraid of revolt, he's a good slave, he can work in the house and not in the cotton fields along with Condi and Collin.

Do you think the republicans would ever appoint someone with sense and intelligence. Heck no...Look at the Supreme Judge that just died. He was in a fog all day long on drugs. And this piece of crap is wild eyed crazy. And we have another that was appointed who is suggested to have epilipsy. So what does that tell you, that the republicans want goof balls making the decisions so they can screw everything up.

If they ever do another remake of The Shining, Thomas should get Jack Nicholson's part.

Yikes!!!

Please stop making fun of Thomas for this. This is a clear cut sign of dementia, and its not funny, its sad.

Where is Charlton Heston?
Isn't this thread about actors from 'Planet of the Apes'?
So.... that's NOT Roddy McDowell's picture?
:)

Isome @ 63:

shano @ 49:

CoIntelPro,
Will bet that Bush executed more people of color than anyone, hahah.

Seriously, most think Clinton was our first black president.

Most who? Did you poll MOST of those people? That was something said by someone notable/famous and then a comedian or two put it in a few bits and suddenly people think that it was a consensus; it was not.

MOST of those you're talking about would never say something so stupid.

Jeez, it is just a popular cultural bon mot. But I do remember this being said by black church members as a form of praise when Clinton was president..

Hey swarmofkillermonkeys! #70 great post! thanks.

Now if Elvis could posthumously explain his obsession w/ investigating the subversive Beatles by offering to help the FBI, hahah

maybe a little proffessional jealosy?

This guy is a psycho.

A sexual sadist psycho.

Nice guy on the supreme court huh?

How many people out there have any respect for the supreme court anymore?

CoIntelPro @ 46:

L.A. Confidential @ 27:

L.A. Confidential @ 25:

MRT @ 21:

Ya mean this? The implication that Kong stands for the black man brought in chains from a dark island full of murderous primitive pagans and with a penchant for skinny white blondes.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/12/images/051214_king_kong.jpg

Don't play the racist card on me I happen to be like Elvis and Clinton. Black with white skin.

elvis hated black people and Clinton executed as many he could get on death row. try the righteous brothers or something else. I'm black and the imagery IS RACIST! You don't get a pass. You sound like a ron paul fan.

Get real!! Thomas looks like a gorilla and everyone can see it and is thinking it and Im a black man.

If we here can say kkkarl rove looks like a pink pig we can say Thomas looks like a gorilla. So take that racist crap to the garbage dump!

CoIntelPro @ 48:

motorfingaz @ 18:

Ruthless People @ 11:

He looks like the oppresive Mister from The Color Purple. How fitting.

Looks more like "King Kong" himself.

....from one brotha to anotha!

MRT @ 21:

Looks more like “King Kong” himself.

Yeah, thanks for making my point RP


what kind of racist bullshit is this?

why don't you go back to huffpo or abcblog?

Is it racist to say Karl Rove or Rush Limbaugh looks like a fat pink pig?

The only racis mentality here is you! So grow up and wake up!!

It could have been worse. He could have said, "M-Fer, I want more iced tea!"

Yellowbird @ 79:

This guy is a psycho.

A sexual sadist psycho.

Nice guy on the supreme court huh?

How many people out there have any respect for the supreme court anymore?

I'm still mad at Sandra Day O'Conner for resigning.

But good evaluation on Thomas, imho.

Dana- hah! good one.

as usual, no context

shano @ 83:

I'm still mad at Sandra Day O'Conner for resigning.

Still pissed at her for being one of the justices that handed Bush the presidency. Mind you, we did wind up with somebody even worse.

motorfingaz @ 80:

CoIntelPro @ 46:

L.A. Confidential @ 27:

L.A. Confidential @ 25:

Don't play the racist card on me I happen to be like Elvis and Clinton. Black with white skin.

elvis hated black people and Clinton executed as many he could get on death row. try the righteous brothers or something else. I'm black and the imagery IS RACIST! You don't get a pass. You sound like a ron paul fan.

Get real!! Thomas looks like a gorilla and everyone can see it and is thinking it and Im a black man.

If we here can say kkkarl rove looks like a pink pig we can say Thomas looks like a gorilla. So take that racist crap to the garbage dump!

racist crap is racist crap.
I don't care if you say you're black.
you get no more license than anyone else.
you know the history of shit like that.
but you think like Isaiah Thomas, i.e., you have license because you say you're black.
you don't get no fuKKKing pass!

He gives new meaning to the word "Uncle Tom", doesn't he? Pathetic...

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