Bolton: Peace Offer From Iran? I Told Powell To Have the Messenger Fired! UPDATED with video
By Bill W. Friday Nov 16, 2007 4:00pm
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On Friday, Yosemite Sam John Bolton was on Hannity & C to help Sean Hannity try and spin the newly released IAEA report out about Iran's nuclear program to insist that despite the report's findings, Iran is now "within one year of being capable of producing a nuclear weapon."
Now I don't pretend to know how far off Iran could be away from a nuclear weapon if it had a nuclear weapons program, which there is no evidence of, but if it did this news might move estimates up somewhat since the last IAEA report. DNI Mike McConnell estimated in February that Iran wouldn't have a nuclear weapon until 2015. Maybe an upcoming NIE will tell us more soon, but Bolton wanted to tell us more now.
When Alan Colmes asked him about "an Iranian diplomatic overture in 2003" after Iran had helped the US post 9-11 in Afghanistan that was ignored by the Bush adminstration. Bolton says "that 2003 story about an Iranian offer is a complete and utter fabrication " (see the former Iranian VP at the time confirm the offer was made in this PBS doc) in one breath and then says this in the next:
Alan Colmes: So everybody is lying about this? The Iranian ambassador is lying about it. The UN is lying. Everybody is lying about it.
John Bolton: The ambassador to France. a former Swiss ambassador who was a busybody. I recommended to Secretary Powell that we get the Swiss to fire that guy or we find a new protecting power (in?) Tehran.
What is he saying? Is he confirming there which he considered was a fabrication, but it wasn't, and that they didn't just ignore the offer, Bolton actually tried to get the messenger fired? It was nice to see Colmes actually press Bolton as hard as he did, and he really did, but he let that slide by without elaboration.
Sean Hannity: The UN's IAEA just released a report on Iran that says the country has installed 3,000 operating centrifuges, and experts say this brings Iran to within one year of being capable of producing a nuclear weapon ....
Sean Hannity: We're talking about 3000 centrifuges, operating centrifuges installed. Would that be an accurate assessment that within one year they might be able to produce a nuclear weapon?
John Bolton: That is the conventional assumption but I must say we don't know really how many Iran has. If it's mastered the technology to make 3,000 run there could be 30,000.
Sean Hannity: Look, I got to tell you something if I'm the Prime Minister of Israel today, I am thinking within the next six months I have no option based on the repeated threats to annihilate my country, I've got to take those facilities out if this is true.
John Bolton: Well I think the Israelis sent a pretty strong signal on Sept the 6th when they bombed that facility in Syria near the Euphrates River. If I were the Iranians I would be concerned about it.
Sean Hannity: What was amazing about that strike to was their ability to sneak in. Syria didn't even know that their planes were going in. I mean this was a stunning military operation.
John Bolton: And it's the same Russian radar that's been sold to Iran so it's another reason for Iran to worry.
Sean Hannity: But do you think they would be able to learn from the mistakes of Syria, and do you think it's really likely that within a year that there is a chance that those nuclear facilities are going to be be taken out?
John Bolton: Yeah. There are a lot of estimates when Iran will have the bomb. They are based on good faith assumptions but you can overestimate or underestimate capability. If I were Israel I would not believe in just-in-time proliferation.
Sean Hannity: I hate the fact that Israel often has to act alone. If we go back to when they took out Iraq's nuclear facilities there was worldwide condemnation in the early 1980s but it turned out that they did the right thing.
John Bolton: No, Secretary of State Jim Baker in 1991 said in retrospect Israel did the right thing, yeah.
Alan Colmes: Jim Baker says we've got to talk to Iran and not start a war but actually to talk to our enemies. When was the last time Iran invaded a country?
John Bolton: Let me tell you something. The Iranians are pushing for hegemony within the Islamic world. They are pushing for influence within the middle east and to be a world player, and given a nuclear weapon they'll achieve it.
Alan Colmes: When was the last time they invaded a country?
John Bolton: I don't think that's the real issue. They are financing ...
Alan Colmes: Why isn't it an issue?
John Bolton: Because what they are doing is subverting other countries without direct invasion.
Alan Colmes: But they are not invading countries. They haven't taken over other countries, haven't invaded another countries at least for 150 years.
John Bolton: If you can get control of country without invading, that's even better. They've got hegemony over Syria now.
Alan Colmes: That means they are not likely to use a nuclear weapon then if that's what you're saying.
John Bolton: No I don't think that shows it at all. They have a demonstrated record of arming terrorists as they did the Palestinian Authority. There is a very real risk if they got a nuclear weapon they would give it to a terrorist.
Alan Colmes: Now, Sadegh Kharazi, who you probably know, the former ambassador Iranian ambassador to France, and somebody who wrote a 2003 offer from Iran to resolve outstanding issues between the United states and Iran which we've ignored, says there are a number of things Iran wants. They want recognition. They want us to unfreeze their assets. They want previous sanctions against Iran to be lifted. There are all kinds of areas about which we could talk to them and negotiate. There are a lot of carrots that we can use along with the sticks. why don't we go that route?
John Bolton: Alan that 2003 story about an Iranian offer is a complete and utter fabrication. I think they ...
Alan Colmes: So everybody is lying about this? The Iranian ambassador is lying about it. The UN is lying. Everybody is lying about it.
John Bolton: The ambassador to France. a former Swiss ambassador who was a busybody. I recommended to secretary Powell that we get the Swiss to fire that guy or we find a new protecting power in Tehran.
Alan Colmes: What about the things I mentioned about which Iran would like some recognition, unfrozen assets, aren't these negotiable areas where we can actually have some common ground with Iran?
John Bolton: The Europeans have offered Iran virtually every carrot conceivable over the past four years and they've gotten one answer back from Iran: We're not going to give up our Iranian enrichment program.
Alan Colmes: Didn't Iran help us after 9/11? Didn't they want to help us with Afghanistan? Didn't they offer to help the United States?
John Bolton: The helped us for tactical reasons in Afghanistan in 2001 and today they are arming their former sworn enemy in al ... (Qaeda?)
Alan Colmes: So there are common, there is common ground and common interests which we can use to develop a relationship and negotiate.
John Bolton: Not on the nuclear program. The Iranians are never going to give that up voluntarily. It's their trump card.
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The occupation of Iraq is going so well, why not start another war?
Drop in Iran related attacks a mystery.
Blair: I wanted war
After British withdrawal, violence drops by 90% in Basra
Drop in Iran related attacks a mystery
Blair: I wanted war
After British withdrawal, violence drops by 90% in Basra
Why does this asshat have a forum? He is so transparent just like Bush and Cheney; they are not capable of diplomacy at all. They want it all and they want it now. Spoiled brats.
Halp! The paranoids are stalking Me!
The reason why the US, Israel, Russia, India and Pakistan have nuclear weapons while Iran should not is ...... ?
Sean Hannity: Look, I got to tell you something if I’m the Prime Minister of Israel today, I am thinking within the next six months I have no option based on the repeated threats to annihilate my country, I’ve got to take those facilities out if this is true.
John Bolton: Well I think the Israelis sent a pretty strong signal on Sept the 6th when they bombed that facility in Syria near the Euphrates River. If I were the Iranians I would be concerned about it.
I like how they've established it as FACT that whatever Israel bombed in Syria back in September was indeed a nuclear facility. Was that ever proven, or are Hannity & Bolten just hoping the audience doesn't know any better?
Nice work Alan.
Neocons have a lying bias.
So it is true that not only did the neo-cons re-ject Irans grand bargain because "we don't talk to evil" but Bolton and co actually tried to have the swiss ambasador who brought the offer to the neo-cons fired, what a utter utter twat John Bolton is, ...possibly my most hated neo-con, and that says a lot.
There going to hit Iran, and they've had there minds made up for a very long time.
ldzppln @ 8:
I also like how they take the Iranian president seriously. He's little more than a figurehead in that country. The real power lies with the Supreme Leader.
An angry white guy that loves war. Dime a dozen.
exactly AbbeyHoffmansGhost..
he's got good PR,, though over at FOx I dont think he needs it,, he is a deity over there..
what a gosh darn NASTY thing to say about Yosemite Sam. Silly wabbit.
Boltons are for bombs! Faster, faster pussycat, nuke nuke.
NAME: John R. Bolton
OCCUPATION: Colossal, screeching prick
A clip of John Bolton in full diplomatic swing.
Why is this dickwad still in the news? Go away already, nobody liked you.
Frybread @ 11:
I know I am probably going against the grain here but I'm just curious: Who has the right to determine who has nuclear weapons? The countries who already have them? It seems to me like nuclear weapons are the ultimate deterrent. When the Soviets and the US both had them the war stayed cold and it became a stalemate. When India and Pakistan both have them they are forced to decide how far they should go with each other. Israel has nukes and any power that feels compelled to point them in their direction must also face the idea of their own extinction.
I find it quite ironic that conservatives are the rugged individualists who believe everyone should own their own gun to deter criminals but that doesn't somehow translate when it comes to national defense deterrents like nuclear weapons that serve basically the same purpose. Please tell me one country that has nukes that has used them on their enemy. Oh . . . that's right. . . it was us. Maybe we are the ones who should be disarmed by the United Nations. We have weapons of mass destruction and we have shown willingness to use them on our enemies.
David Hawes @ 17:
Bingo! Amajadiwhater is a clown. BUT. he got heep big puddle Oil. Prepare the fazers! make it so,Number One
Pretty ironic, considering our closest allies appear to have spent a good deal of their time trying to get Bolton fired:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/51894
Maybe it's time for Bolton to finally shut his yap and go back to being everybody's favorite bitch at Plato's Retreat.
Plisko @ 18:
IF some despot in Africa had a Nuke with no oil underground NOBODY would give a shit. It's all about making money for corperations . Arms builders,oil magnates,'News' corperations and politicos who love to see the mice run.
Why would anyone have this discredited a$$hole on their show? Next will be the reappearance of the Newt. Republicans and Fox News... nothing but re-runs of "has-beens and wannabes" and that's "low-life has beens and wannabes". Snakes sit higher off the ground than these Republic-scums.
i bet the bloodthirsty NEOCONS are lovin' El Baradei now.
wasn't it just last week when they were blasting him from every angle?
Matt @ 16:
Because he is a PNAC founding member, and they will NEVER go away.
Edwin @ 12:
The problem with these angry white men is that they never sign up to fight in the war. They just enjoy ignoring all the flag-draped coffins that return from their greedy wars based on lies.
Coffins draped in flags @ 25:
And make Huge profits on neverending war and spreading fear and hate to feed neverending war. Slick.
What a pure piece of repug chickenshit. This nut is as crazy as chimpy and darthdic.
This fruitcake wants us to believe Iran will strike us within an year and and he's disregarding Pakistan immediate threat? GTFOOH!
It's not easy to make a nuke, even if chimpy publishes the blueprints over the net. It's not easy to "give" a nuke away either.
Oh yeah, this piece of shit uses "hegemony" as if he knows the meaning. It's not the opposite of sneak attack (which the repugs are getting away with.) It's on the line of diplomacy, you fucking asshole.
repugs are dangerous -- mt rushmore is yours -- take those assholes with you when you disappear.
What a couple of weenies. Permanent skid marks in their drawers.
David Hawes @ 20:
He isn't a clown just because you don't know what the hell you are talking about.
Brimley mustached Hageeite John Bolton never met a war he didn't want his doorman's son to fight
How can these idiots be taken seriously by the 24%ers? Gawd their combined IQ is still 1.
Sounds like the writer's strike has affected FUX news. Same reruns.
ldzppln @ 1:
Swimmingly!
(Based on the teachings of a noted 21st century asshole)
tHeGaMeOfLiFe @ 30:
Is that so? Please inlighten me oh Nopronounsablename! I don't know what I am saying.
I thought they got rid of this jerk. Why is he suddenly back making the rounds?
Reruns.
I can't stomach reading the entire transcript. It sounds like a poorly written high school play. Totally scripted between Hannity and Bolton:
"Here, let me feed you this."
"Thank you. Now let me feed you this."
"Oh, I must feed you some more of this."
"Why thank you. Have some more of this."
Pathetic. Even a dime-store novel is more solidly based on facts.
Marc @ 33:
Yeppers! mark.... just more Republican re-runs. Yawn... nothing new from these torture, death and deficit loving Repubs and their supportes.
For the record. Amajawhatever is a spokesman for Iran. He has NO POWER. He doesn't set policy. He parrots policy. Ten minutes of research will tell You all You need to know. I DO know what I am talking about.
As said by one who had the misfortune to work for him, "Bolton is a kiss-up, kick-down kinda guy".
It sure is funny that i fear Bush will nuke an American city more than i fear anyone else will.
Oh, i forgot: "Ha Ha."
Coffins draped in flags @ 39:
Your username brings to mind a lyric from activist band Wackiavelli:
You think you’re righteous, tell it to them
Draped flags are comin’ home silently again
Mothers are cryin’, when will it end?
The sons and daughters of the Hill they won’t
send
Why oh Why oh Why
Why oh Why oh Why
Why oh Why oh Why
Why did you lie?
Akmaydjinedjad declares hes in posession of 3000 centrifuges
IAEA confirms usage of 3000 centrifuges
ccoaler @ 45:
The only english there was Pat Robertson's middle finger.
ccoaler @ 45:
NewsFlash! Dave Hawes declares 'I aint no fradey cat! No eyeranian gonna Nuke MY house. F Em. spit'
If the top ten inches of John Bolton's head were missing, it wouldn't make any difference.
After Bolton said even a stopped clock is right twice a day, El-Baradei says hes loosin grip
Site Monitor: We're a little tired of you spamming the thread with links to your site. Participate in the discussion here or link once to your site IF you have something to add (links to foreign language news reports don't add anything to this discussion), or just move on.
Bolt on.
Bolt off.
tHeGaMeOfLiFe @ 32:
Actually, a bit higher. That's what science says.
IQ
80-89 Low average 16.1%
70-79 Borderline 6.6%
Below 70 Extremely low 2.2%
There's your 24%. Interesting. Factual. Scary. So as the 29thers are gone, people are getting wiser, the teens should be easily reached in time for the next presidential election. Who would have imagined the switch to the Net would be that fast and radical! Or is there some other explanation you'd like to propose? I dare you ;)
The only english there was Pat Robertson’s middle finger.
ok its not too much English. The only thing mentioned in the article is that Akmaydjinedjad was in southern Iran and told fans hes operating 3000 centrifuges.
http://ccoaler.blogspot.com/2007/11/akmaydjinedjad-and-nukes.html
(sry, I ran the info thru yahoo search and the output was this Iafrica link. My apologies)
http://ccoaler.blogspot.com/2007/09/akmaydjinedjad-on-holocaust-iranian....
Akmaydjinedjad on holocaust
heh, there's supposed to be videos with this post. I think they'll probably be up shortly.
ccoaler @ 55:
none needed. My only point throughout this thread is: NO MORE WAR!!!
These neo-cons are so self rightious and will actually try to spin us into "winable" nuclear war.
These neo-cons are so self rightious and will actually try to spin us into “winable” nuclear war.
none neeeded. a sec ago u said this man doesnt have nuclear weapons
If Dubya didn't think Bolton can walk on water, he'd be laughable. Because he has the ear of the Moron-in-Chief, he is frightening.
ccoaler @ 59:
What's this 'Us' shit? It seems the NEOCONS haven't been able to 'spin' anything here.
http://ccoaler.blogspot.com/2007/11/us-secretly-aids-pakistan-in-guardin...
well I didnt say so but ok. the neocons have diffrent probs. their new world order is just goin beserk
what were looking at is good and evil, right and wrong
OK Cc. Anything to add but your own ego? How bout You just tell it all to US in writing. OR Go back to mommy's basement. This is grownup talk.
Bolton is one angry white guy in desperate need of an ass whuppin!
What do you expect from a goose stepping neocon member of the criminal bush regime. They have all committed treason AND they will get away with it. The entire criminal bush gang should have their wanted posters displayed at your local post office..reading..WANTED FOR: WAR CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY
I know for a fact that Bolton is lying.
I was on board one of the first ships deployed to the Arabian Gulf at the beginning of OEF, before it became OIF and subsequently OCF (Operation Enduring Freedom; Operation Iraqi Freedom; Operation ClusterF@ck).
On our way out of the gulf, the Iranian Navy requested to sail with the USS Kitty Hawk strike group through the Straits of Hormuz to show their support. I was in the room when the CO of the ship I was on, discussed with his Operations Officer, XO, and Strike Officer the ramifications of allowing the Iranians that close.
The hand of friendship was extended and rejected. BUT, IT WAS EXTENDED.
The walrus is a liar: koo koo ka choo.
Let's not forget Alan Colmes.
I like the new Alan, since about a month ago. He has definitely become more assertive.
I now hope that the Democratic Majority in both Houses will do what they said they will do - stand firm in opposing BushCo.
Send Alan an email, let him know he is doing a good job [now] (alan.colmes@FOXNEWS.COM)
Stop saying they are trying to "spin" things. Casllit what it is, they are lying. Again. Call a liar a liar, make them defend the lies.
Nice work Colmes, you finally becoming your own man, keep up the good work and you'll replace your boss, who is a real loser asshole
Iaea inspectors in August tested the uranium Iran is enriching. Iran was claiming they had enriched to over 4% but iaea tests indicated slightly less than 4. Not quite high enough to even fuel their reactor, way far off for weapons. Iaea inspectors have and have had access to the enrichment facility. BTW, the reactor at Bushehr is a light water reactor. One day I set out to find out why they say light water reactors are safer than heavy water. Either I am a poor googler or this is highly classified information as it took me quite some time to find. As I recall, in order to harvest plutonium from a light water reactor the reactor needs to be shut down, an operation presumably noticable to our spies in the sky, and if not shut down soon enough the fuel turns into a substance unusable for bombs. In heavy water reactors shut down is not necessary and the plutonium may be harvested without any outward appearance of change.
In a sane world bolton would be in a mental health facility.
ccoaler @ 59:
coal dude, no one said anywhere in this thread that the US doesn't have nuclear weapons. You on something?
This chickenhawk douchebag is truly a major crook and liar. That little cartoon at the top of the page, it should have Bolton's face on it.
John Bolton is living proof that George Bush kept his promise about an all inclusive administration.
Who among us ever considered factoring in the animal kingdom for the first time around?
That W is one sharp dude, isn't he?
Bravo, Colmes! Well done.
John Bolton is like a hot air balloon that never takes flight.
#67 "I know for a fact that Bolton is lying."
Of course he's lying. He's a Bushie. If they tell the truth it's by accident.
Actually, even if Iran had 30,000 centrifuges - or 30 billion of them - they still can/t make weapons.
Iran's centrifuges produce LOW ENRICHED uranium, which cannot be used for bombs.
Iran has even offered to turn over its enrichment facilities into a joint venture with foreign governments - just to make sure that it can't even theoretically be used to make bombs - and the US has simply refused to even acknowledge that and many other Iranian peace offers, since it would deprive the NeoCons of their favorite bogeyman.
Bush brought Bolton in because that was the biggest cocaine mustache Bush ever saw.
Just part of Bolton's neocon job description.
In 2002 he strongarmed the UN and OPCW into firing Jose Bustani for wanting to send chemical weapon inspectors to Iraq before the invasion.
Then comments in March 2006 regarding the nuclear programs of Pakistan and India as compared to Iran illustrates such convoluted logic I feel like I'm going to explode every time I read them.
>NEW YORK (Reuters) - The U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton said on Wednesday the way India and Pakistan had obtained nuclear arms was legitimate, in contrast to Iran which he accused of pursuing atomic weapons in violation of its international undertakings.
While Iran is seeking to conceal development of nuclear weapons under the guise of a legitimate program to generate nuclear power, Bolton said, India and Pakistan "did it legitimately."Bolton noted that neither India nor Pakistan had ever signed the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, intended to contain the spread of atomic arms, while Iran had done so.
"I give them (India and Pakistan) credit at least that what they did was consistent with the obligations they undertook," Bolton said.
"They never pretended that they had given up the pursuit of nuclear weapons. They never tried to tie what they were doing under a cloak of international legitimacy. They did it openly and they did it legitimately," he said.<
This bastard should be in jail
StCyrlyMe @ 82:
Along with Bush, Cheney, Rove, Rice and Powell.
...and Gonzo.
Sean Hannity repulses me.
You phony asshole. The fact he is getting rich off his utter horse shit is a crime against humanity.
"If you can get control of a country without invading that's even better"
Straight out of neocon playbook from Bush's #1 diplomat. Although I was waiting for him to say "It's good to invade too if you can't fully subvert other ways."
John "Captain Kangaroo" Bolton appears to be "more in need of a blow job than any white man in history".........
I love how they desperately try to glorify Israel and it's air force. The reason the Israelis got in and out without incident was because Syria didn't want to shoot down the Israeli airplanes. The Syrians are desperately trying to avoid the bating and the provocation. What a bunch of blow hards, it's truly pathetic how Hannity and the 'stache lie through their teeth.
And the bit about the radar system.....lol. Israel has F-16s and some F-15s. Neither of which are stealth aircraft. Technically they can't fly under the radar, so to speak, because northern Syria is a mountainous terrain that is impossible to fly over at low altitudes without being picked up by a radar station.
Plisko @ 19:
What are you talking about? Apart from rhetorics and press releases, where do "rights" enter into these power games? Might makes right, that is ALL there is to it. Everything else is just PR.
If I didn't already know that Sean Hannity was a walking bullhorn for the admin's wars, I would dismiss him out of hand simply for the mispronunciation of 'centrifuge' as 'centerfuge'. It's as if they get some brownie points from the NASCAR/ religious right base for not even *trying* to say the stuff right. I suppose dictionaries are for cowards.
ldzppln @ 9:
Actually, it was mentioned for two whole days that the report was in error and that Syria did not have nuclear sites. The real purpose for the raid was to establish they could "nuetralize" the radar system (soviet) the same system Iran has in place. Any questions? Read the following Isreali website (Haaretz) http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/903398.html The title of the article ia Syria: There are no N. Korea-Syria nuclear facilities whatsoever, an interesting read.
This hateful little man is back in the news to bang the drums of war, because as we all know two failed wars is never enough.
After listening to him I'm pretty surprised we didn't invade Switzerland for being clock making busybodies.
I'm growing increasingly tired of the this country being the bully. Only the U.S. can decide who has this and who has that. For a country that is supposed to be the sole remaining superpower I was hoping we would lead by example, we would lead with intelligence and compassion. Sadly I was wrong because we turned things over to the neo-cons, a bunch who never pass up an opportunity to be swaggering pricks. Sorry to use the term prick as I thought long and hard for a less offensive term. In the end though that's the only word that fits these creeps.
Iran is a signatory of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation [NPT] Treaty. Iran has complied by all the rules and edicts of the Treaty. ElBaradei has been working with Iran for years. His work is tedious, but successful. He has found nothing to indicate Iran is pursuing nukes. So what do the neocons do: they attack ElBaradei in an effort to discredit him. They don't stop there.
Bolton purports,
"The Europeans have offered Iran virtually every carrot conceivable over the past four years and they’ve gotten one answer back from Iran: We’re not going to give up our Iranian enrichment program."
That is a complete fabrication according to comments posted on the The Guardian [with links]:
- "Enrichment of uranium for a civilian nuclear programme is Iran 's inalienable right. Every member of the NPT has the right to enrich uranium for a civilian nuclear programme and is entitled to full technical assistance.
"But with the US as the back seat driver and in violation of their assistance obligations, France , Germany , and the UK insisted throughout the three years of negotiations that Tehran forfeit its right, in return for incentives of little value. Some European diplomats admitted to Asia Times Online on 7th September 2005, that the package offered by the EU-3 was "an empty box of chocolates." But "there is nothing else we can offer," the diplomats went on to say, "The Americans simply wouldn't let us."
Not forgetting that,
- "There is considerable evidence of clandestine operations by the US , British and Israeli agents who are arming, training and funding terrorist entities such as Jundollah in Baluchistan, Arab separatists in Khuzestan, and PJAK in Kurdistan . These concrete attempts at disintegration of Iran , as well as the 100 million dollars congressional funding for 'democracy' promotion in Iran , constitute aggression and are interference in Iran 's domestic affairs and Iranian people's rights of sovereignty. They violate the bilateral Algiers Accord of 1981, in which Washington renounced any such actions in the future."
here for more info:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7317
[...]
"Past Arguments Don't Square With Current Iran Policy
"Lacking direct evidence, Bush administration officials argue that Iran's nuclear program must be a cover for bomb-making. Vice President Cheney recently said, "They're already sitting on an awful lot of oil and gas. Nobody can figure why they need nuclear as well to generate energy."
"Yet Cheney, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and outgoing Deputy Secretary Paul Wolfowitz held key national security posts when the Ford administration made the opposite argument 30 years ago."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A3983-2005Mar26.html
Seeing how this being reported in India might help get some sense of the unreality of the situation:
http://tinyurl.com/2mfpaf
"For those who are interested in obtaining a broad media perspective of this topic on an ongoing basis, the IAEA Internet site provides a Daily Press Review, with the objective of presenting "a general overview of international, English-language, media coverage of the IAEA and nuclear issues, that does not purport to be exhaustive". Here is the
link: http://www.iaea.org/NewsCenter/Dpr/pressreview.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story/0,,2210644,00.html
Until Bush and his regime present solid proof, hard evidence, then there is NO justification — none, zip — to wage a bombing campaign against Iran.
It is inconceivable that Boton, Cheney, Bush, et al are even given court after damning their credibility !
Is there any question why the rest of the world scorns the West for its blatant hypocrisy and arrogance!
Bolton is a bald-faced liar. He's got nothing else. Not intellect. Not reason. Not facts. The real-wrold, on it's own, is proving Bolton wrong. No one even need produce an argument. Simple reality serves to refute his flaed worldview.
He is a total and complete liar. What is truly sad is he continues to be propped up in the media and referenced as a legitimate source, when all exprience and facts argue otherwise. He is a radical fringe zealot, no better than the freak on the street corner screaming about the end of the world.
Thousands of fine people lie dead.
And this piece of DOGS%#T is just a dead liar.
Ruthless People @ 83:
Jail? No.
Capture, rendition, waterboarding and stress positions, then off to the Hague (or maybe Tehran) for trial conviction and possible/probable exection. Hey, I'm not advocating murder, I'm suggesting the rule of law be imposed. There's more than enough evidence to convict them all, just not the will to do it.
The neo-clowns deserve a trial with as much fairness and transparency as the one Saddam got. Unlike Saddam, however, Bush would be whining for mommy and peeing his pants, while Cheney would probably pop a pill to kill himself to avoid the noose.
There is a very real risk if they got a nuclear weapon they would give it to a terrorist.
Yeah right. For one thing, a terrorist could turn around and use it ON Iran. No halfway sane govt in the world would hand off a nuke to a terrorist. Further, if one got used on the US or Israel by a terrorist, it's a certainty that some retaliatory nukes would fly. NW Pakistan and Tehran would likely bear the brunt of that.
All intel estimates will project on the safe side. If they say 5 years away, it'll be at least 6. Their worst case always will add an extra year or two. That's how WMD intel tries to be failsafe.
Bolton is a retired diplomat, retired because the Senate would never confirm him. His credibility is nil; he just gets paid to push the country to the right of the most extreme right existing. A more apt nickname would be Psychopath Sam Tinydick.
liberalbiasboy @ 87:
Um no. That'd be me. ;-)
moniker @ 8:
The balance of power sucks... When you have it all.
Oh, yes... Plus if Iran has nuclear weapons, war becomes a non-option. Neocons and Zionists hate that. Their worst nightmare would be for Israel to actually TALK to their disaffects. That is, talk without bombing their parliament every two weeks.
Why do we keep giving space to the ramblings of this lying, neocon-zionist, lightly-disguised-MOSSAD-agent, Israel Uber Alles traitor to the U.S.?
Oh, of course, to keep our eye on our enemy.
Makes sense, but it certainly is distasteful.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA... Colmes slapped that fish-smellin' mustache so hard that it looked like a pinwheel!
moniker @ 8:
the reason they shouldnt is!they wouldnt have to take shit off of america and its owners israel!
Good God, every time I turn around I see Bolton or DeLay on TV. Are they getting hard up for guests?
the lies that are spread by Media Whores like Hannity are far more dangerous than the alleged centrifuges.
Shouldn't the govt jop be to tell us the truth, and keep news outlets like fox honest. our gov't has only one objective control all natural resources and kill anyone who gets in there way.
VietVet67 @ 104:
Writers strike.
Seems to me we should be more concerned with the KAOS in Pakistan, since we looked the other way when they developed nuclear arms, and are now teetering on the brink.
Darn you Siegfried!!
Respectfully:
• Israel has about 200 nuclear bombs. Israel is not supporting IAEA; not a member.
• Iran does not have a single nuclear bomb! Iran is developing a nuclear fuel cycle to make fuel cells for electrical energy production using reactor…just like Japan, Germany and many others.
• Iran has not attacked any country for the last 250 years… about the age of our country the good old USA. Is this true about Israel?
• Israel security is linked to stability in the region; Iran is part of this region.
Have we become a victim of Israel-Arabs-Persians (Iran) insecurity going back over thousand of years?
We spend our precious tax money to bribe the regional nations by giving them “foreign aids”, please spare me! We arm these nations, all of them. Some of the same arms have been use to kill our people. Except for Iran, where a single American has not been killed by Iranian people. Who were members of September 11 who attacked our country? Who attacked and killed our people on USS Liberty?
Why are we so keen on Iran? Have we not done enough damage to the people of this country? Iran is developing a fuel cycle for production of electric energy, like Japan, Germany and many other countries. If you have to worry about nuclear bomb, should we put our finger on Israel first.
Should we spend our money and expertise in our hemisphere rather than 7500 miles from home? Our national interests first, please!
Paranoid Schizophrenic.
If there is anything more stupid you can do at a time like this is continue to piss off people around the world.
If the US attack Iran, Iraq will seem like a walk in the park. Iran is armed and also has a LOT of friends in the region.
If there are no sleeper cells, there will be thousands after that. Not just Arabs but now also Persians and their friends.
And the 'collateral damage' will come back to the US.
And China and India and Russia will be laughing their asses off. And waiting.. waiting for the right time to act.
Bolton could do what Dracula did when some representatives from Turkey couldn't remove their turbans until they concluded a deal.
He had the turbans nailed to their heads.
And not with the sissy kind of nails we use today. These were more like railroad spikes.
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