Rudy Giuliani Does Business With Sheik Who Helped 9/11 Mastermind Elude FBI
By Logan Murphy Tuesday Nov 27, 2007 1:57pm
Picture and article via The Village Voice:
Three weeks after 9/11, when the roar of fighter jets still haunted the city's skyline, the emir of gas-rich Qatar, Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifah al-Thani, toured Ground Zero. Although a member of the emir's own royal family had harbored the man who would later be identified as the mastermind of the attack—a man named Khalid Sheikh Muhammad, often referred to in intelligence circles by his initials, KSM—al-Thani rushed to New York in its aftermath, offering to make a $3 million donation, principally to the families of its victims. Rudy Giuliani, apparently unaware of what the FBI and CIA had long known about Qatari links to Al Qaeda, appeared on CNN with al-Thani that night and vouched for the emir when Larry King asked the mayor: "You are a friend of his, are you not?"
Abdallah al-Thani remains a named defendant in the 9/11 lawsuits that are still proceeding in Manhattan federal court, but his Washington lawyers declined to address the charges that he shielded KSM, insisting only that he never "supported" any "terrorist acts." Asked if Abdallah al-Thani ever supported any terrorists rather than their acts, his lawyer David Nachman declined to comment further. The Congressional Research Service report summarized the evidence against him: "According to the 9/11 Commission Report and former U.S. government officials, royal family member and current Qatari Interior Minister, Sheikh Abdullah (Abdallah) bin Khalid Al Thani, provided safe harbor and assistance to Al Qaeda leaders during the 1990s," including KSM. While numerous accounts have named Abdallah as the KSM tipster, the report simply says that "a high ranking member of the Qatari government" is believed to have "alerted" KSM "to the impending raid."
In other words, as incredible as it might seem, Rudy Giuliani—whose presidential candidacy is steeped in 9/11 iconography—has been doing business with a government agency run by the very man who made the attacks on 9/11 possible. Read on...
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This guy is such bad news I can't even believe it.
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Oh what a web we weave when first we practice to deceive
or set up a blog site.
"But...But...But...ummmm...uhhhhhhh....9/11!! 9/11!! Remember 9/11!! PLEEEEEASE, just remember 9/11!!"
Your article begs a question.
So, what's a lisping, crazy as shit asshole to do to spin his way out of this one?
"as incredible as it might seem"
Ha!
Could there be anymore proof...uh, nevermind...
Why, oh why is the U.S. Government still doing business with Saudi????? If members of the Royal Family are tied to giving support to known terrorist, how can we ever win the war against anyone??????
The guy is sounding more like shrub every day.
A stretch....at BEST. Sorry, but this is as chock full of facts as the ABC 9/11 miniseries lambasting Clinton.
Chock full of NUTS...maybe...
True or not, I am far from surprised by any idiocy that is generated from this man or any of his supporters.
Wait wait wait wait wait. Rudy allowed al-Thani to make a donation AND appeared with him on Larry King? This is quite a bombshell.
Because, as you may recall, Rudy went public (grandstanded, actually) when he refused to allow a Saudi Prince, Alwaleed bin Talal, make a $10M cash donation and visit the WTC site in October 2001. This was because the prince made a political statement that Rudy strongly disagreed with.
Hey Rudy,
Here's an idea on how to spin this one - have Genius George Bush stand up in front of the cameras and try to pronounce the names of everyone in this article. With all of his butchering, drooling and dim-witted, dumbstruck attempts at speaking common English, the public by then will have forgotten all about this and turned their attention on questioning who put that retard in power and for what reason.
Maybe the incompetence of the Republican candidates is all a plot to make it look like the President had no choice but to postpone election until a competent Republican candidate could be found... in other words, indefinitely...
I would love to see the media pick this up and see what it's all about but they won't have time what with their coverage of OJ, a missing white lady and whether or not President Clinton was against the war from the beginning.
Wait (9/11) a minute (9/11) here. Surely Rudy Rudy (9/11) Rudy (9/11) has a (9/11) plausible explanation (9/11) and to why (9/11) he would (9/11) do such a (9/11) thing.
(9/11) Surely.
The fact that Rudy isn't sinking is proof to me that he has a better than 50/50 chance to win the White House. Concentrate on Congress, friends. The Oval Office is overrated. Let's get ourselves a supermajority to override the future Republican POTUS # 44.
Excellent investigative work!!
Although this is surprising in a way, it makes sense if you think about it.
Guiliani is highly supported by the NWO, who also support Bush, Clinton, and other neo-cons. The Bush family has intimate connections with the Bin Laden family, and George senior has conducted business with members of Al Qaeda.
Since Bush LOVES Guiliani, it makes sense that Guiliani is also involved in oil and members of Al Qaeda.
I would wager that other highly regarded (I mean internally regarded, not publically) politicians who seem like complete dictator wannabes, and in all sanity should not be involved in leading anyone, end up being connected to this great crime cabal somehow. Mitt Romney is not yet implicated, but I bet he is involved. I bet Hillary Clinton is also involved.
People who you would think are the worst possible people to lead this country may be in their positions because they are involved in more than we know. Sometimes I think to myself "How in the world can these people be supported by anyone?" Then I realize it is because everyone is protecting each other from the law.
I think Alberto Gonzales is the best example. How could be so liked in the administration? He is pure evil, yet he has many friends. I bet he is also involved in the middle east and we don't even know it. Somebody should do an investigation of this particular creature/animal.
This doesn't seem to be any "stretch," since afterall booshco were meeting with various figures from the area in Carlyle meetings right before 9-11.
I seemed to remember one ME figure, who's one of our allies, and it was discovered his wife was sending money to groups who support the families of suicide bombers.
Its all about the oil and the money.
I am sure Rudy knew something about those attacks before they happened.
Bush is running out of time to set up the next attack.
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I think this article is a little misleading. As much as I despise Guliani, didn't he refuse the offer. Even this article says "he offered" and never says that Guliani took anything from him. At least not in what is quoted here.
Maybe all of those former military officials, firefighters, cia veterans, new york public officials and other patriotic intelligence officials, that we have been reading about -- are on to something. Many families are looking for answers.
Can we get the Bush Administration to SPY on Guliani and related computers so we can get to the bottom of this?
Oh I forgot. That wont work.
The Bush Administration Mob is working together with the Giuliani Mob.
it hardly seems incredible.
once again, the loony conspiracy theorists are way out in front.
This article sounds really stretched. There's more direct links between Al Qaeda and Bush, right?
It's quite possible that every head of state of every middle-eastern nation has met with Kalid Shiek Muhammed, Osama Bin Laden, Mullah Omar, or Ayman Al-Zawahiri.
Don't get me wrong, Giuliani's a douche-bag; but we don't need to start throwing around arab-sounding names to discredit him.
Under Guliani the murder rate in new york went up by 3000 in 2001.
He says he will protect us.
If now - why not then.
He says he wants the responsibility of protecting us -
Well wasn't he responsible for that on 9-10.
He's talking out of both sides of his mouth.
Oh you say - he was not responsible for that -
but he was responsible for protecting new yorkers
from murderers wasn't he.
He won't take responsibility for that but he wants to take responsibility for protecting you in the future.
Huh
If the federal case, since dismissed due to a hung jury, here in Dallas against the Holy Land Foundation for supporting groups that allegedly supported terrorism went to court, and may be refiled for a new trial, why is this case any less relevant?
Article, credible or not (as there seems to be some question in above comments), Rudy is still a scumbag and I am revolted to think people would actaually vote for him. I swear they are 24%-ers that saw the made-for-TV movie about Rudy cleaning up NYC (which they've never been to, but were always afraid of).
[Yes, I watched it. I live in Korea. English TV isn't great. Rudy looks like a hero that can run anything, and you don't need cable TV to get it. I.e., the corn belt gets it on the antenna.]
You say Rudy I hear Reichstagg.
Rudy - Reichstagg.
Rudy - Reichstagg.
I'm sorry, but I don't really see what the big deal is. It's not like Rudy himself harbored KSM. He didn't even know this guy had connections to KSM at the time. He's a politician, he'll take money from anyone.
Of all the hideous reasons to call rudy on the map, this is the weakest.
uh, I mean, For all the horrible things rudy has done, this one is relatively tame.
Yes Jay, a sourced article by the Village Voice = gossip queen Drudge.
How insightful of you.
29 Pete
Rudy the Reichstag reindeer...
Funny how stories like this, which could prove damaging, are ridiculed by the very same people who would insist that the Clinton campaign is behind reichwing memes to smear Obama.
This is not even the tip of the ice berg. All you have to do a follow the money and read the official documents and you will see the truth and who the real enemies are.
that's does it.......rudy is my guy..........he always said he knew to deal with terrorists and by gum he's proved it......what else do we need in a leader
37 moonsha
Begging the question means to raise a question you presume to have the answer to, at your opposition's expense, otherwise your raising a question.
But that''s OK, because if a Republican does it,it's upright, moral and legal, and if the bad guy has money, then it's also blessed by God.
Mr. Blade @ 38:
I hope that doesn't mean we'll have to keep hearing this song again, over and over, ad nauseum.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO_vFuzPJvc
Yeah, but ,but Clinton.....
I hope I live long enough for the actual truth to be exposed. Then again, I was alive when Kennedy was shot and that's still being disputed.
ysbaddaden @ 19:
I remember reading something about that from a credible source as well. If I recall correctly it was the Saudi ambassador at the time, Prince Bandar (aka "Bandar Bush", Georgie's hand holdin' buddy) whose wife routinely wrote checks to some questionable characters, including a couple of the 9-11 hijackers who were living in southern California. It was all explained away as a coincidence, she didn't know what they were up to, she wrote lots of checks to Saudis living in the US of A, etc.
Woohoo!! right on!! Way to go, Guili! Could you be any more crooked?! Nope, didn't think so. And he's got aspirations toward the presidency... inconceivable and totally repugnant! Yuck!!!
Mr. Blade @ 34:
they're sitting in the Whitehouse laughing at us, aren't they?! Thought so!!
Even though Mcain is behind in the polls
this is the BEST the republicans can do
and they have not figured that out yet
POT HOLE RUDY is TAINTED
Tonight on Coundtown, regarding this issue, Dana Milbank of the Washington Post offers a good idea for a campaign BUMPER STICKER:
"RUDY, WHERE'S YOUR CLIENT LIST?"
If Rudy's mouth is moving and it isn't full of food, he's lying!
Cowboy Bob in Austin @ 45:
Here's one for you: Tax and Spend is a tax in the end.
Oops...I meant "Borrow and Spend is a tax in the end."
If there's one thing Republicans love more than playing the terrorist card, it's bending over and taking it from a Middle Eastern billionaire. If it's not the George Sr. bending over for the Saudi royal family, it's Dick Cheney and Halliburton doing business with Iran, or it's Chimpy selling his a&& to Dubai. Of course, considering Grandpappy Bush helped the Nazis finance their war, it's no surprise that his son and grandson are selling out American interests.
"you'll always be my supercop"-Chris Matthews to Rudy
Chris wants to have Rudy's baby . . . or at least he wants to have the right to have Rudy's baby.
Rudy helped pull off 9/11 which was needed to "shock and awe" us into a state where we would allow the patriot act to be passed and the middle east to be invaded.
This site is allergic to "alternate theories" . . . maybe you haven't read that the official theory is only held together by our denial.
And Denial isn't a river in Egypt.
Rudy is first and foremost a businessman, he even pays residuals to Judith's last lover.
Well, 'pays' is a little misleading, but he admits he owes them, and is being sued for an overdue balance.
Rudy is a rare find. There are not that many gay half wits!
QUICK! Someone call Unsolved Mysteries, Frontline, Coast to Coast... SOMEBODY!! This conspiracy theory is too good NOT to be true! You know, the reason Rudy's not being called out on it is because our ENTIRE governement is in on it! Even Larry King and CNN... Ok, that was fun. Back to reality.
Rudy is a worhtless, racist piece of shit. He let his wife find out he was divorcing her via the media, spent taxpayer dollars to screw his girlfriend out in the Hamptons, led a reign of terror against minorities here in NY, and SCREWED 9/11 FIRST RESPONDERS royally, ask them. I was standing next to him on Canal street when the first tower fell. The fools out in Iowa all ready to vote for him don't know shit.
People "provided safe harbor and assistance to Al Qaeda leaders during the 1990s" - you remember who built up the taliban and al-qaeda? So, then you're talking about the CIA? And Father & Son Bush and Clinton ... ? Who is doing business with them today? How can anybody shake their hands and NOT putting them into handcuffs? They are war criminals who deserve the same punishment as those in Nuremberg (and because they are pro death penalty, they will not oppose that, right?)
Albatross @ 14:
Oh...please. Give me a break. as if ANY politician is worth their weight in shit. Hillary "The Liar" Clinton...Barack "Chocolate City" Obama, etc....
All politicians suck.
We need to get rid of the electoral college, however, and make it popular vote, 100%. The college is useless.
In the end, they all suck.
this does seem to beg the question since there's still reasonable doubt to any connection...
with that said, it still shows that Giuliani is an idiot, had no knowledge of terrorist actions before 9-11 (which became quite obvious in how he handled preparations for another attack during his years as mayor of NYC) and is relying on a unsubstantial claim to being tough for the War On (or Of, depending where you live) Terror
Greatest conspiracy of all time: god exists and there is an afterlife.
Guiliani is an evil bastard, is there actually anyone who would want him to be the next leader of the greatest military machine in history. I can't believe we have actually allowed TWO stolen elections to happen. Shame on us all. Shame on us for the Million Iraq's that have been murdered.
hey chicago joe.....I grew up in Chi and knew CJ very well and you are NOT CJ
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