Huckabee: Campaigning as your Theocrat in Chief
By Nicole Belle Monday Dec 17, 2007 3:20pmMike Huckabee has released a new campaign ad that is, how shall we say...not very campaign-y, except in a very dog-whistle kind of way.
Makes you all warm and fuzzy, don't it? Okay, maybe not, but at least it's not as overt as this ad. Campaigning as the Theocrat in Chief makes a lot of people nervous. Street Prophets:
Lots of establishment types like to say there's nothing new under the sun with respect to religion and politics. In December 2004, White House speechwriter Michael Gerson told journalists that George W. Bush's religious rhetoric was the same old thing we'd always seen: "I don't believe that any of this is a departure from American history." Three months earlier Rev. Richard John Neuhaus, editor of the ecumenical journal First Things, declared of Bush's religious politics: "There is nothing that Bush has said about divine purpose, destiny and accountability that Abraham Lincoln did not say. This is as American as apple pie."
If this is apple pie, the fruit is rotten.
Both of these men were wrong, and their position is dangerous. As in end of the American experiment in democracy dangerous. How do I know? My colleague, Kevin Coe, and I ran the numbers. Read on...
PERRspectives compiles 10 More Moments in Mike Huckabee's Extremism. And Ron Paul tells FOX & Friends in no uncertain terms how he feels about the not so hidden symbolism in Huckabee's ad.
UPDATE: Uh oh. I think that Huckabee might want to bring that WWJD attitude back home a little more before he pushes it to the electorate.
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It's going to get worse now.
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Huckabee seems very ....how do I say...."milktoastish"
If you enlarge it, you can make out a dog with a slit neck hanging from the tree - looks like his son helped decorate this year.
Makes you all warm and fuzzy, don’t it?
Actually, it sends a chill up my spine...
"...not very campaign-y, except in a very dog-whistle kind of way."
Dogs, STAY AWAY!
God help us!
That's nothing: Huckabee’s Latest Iowa Commercials Broadcast From a Manger
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=1297
L.A. Confidential,
Do you have a link? Not finding anything through Google yet.
He's Religious! Lets kick his ass! Start your hate machines people
Blue Lensman @ 6:
No kidding. Enter the Televison is Reality Era.
I saw an article today where the writer was using a TV show as the example bosses and business owners should strive for. And she was serious.
Stupid Git @ 8:
http://tinyurl.com/yogyq9
So that was just a rumor that church and state were separated? I guess they are back together again. I was kinda hoping for a divorce.
Seems old huck has the Repubs panties in a knot. Like someone said on tv today the repubs like to use the evangelicals every four years for their vote and then they want them to go away. Well, now the evangelicals believe they have found one of their own and the rest of the republicans don't like that their party might actually be taken over by one of these folks.
It would be funny as hell if it wasn't so serious.
So Mr. Fuckupbee wants to wish me a merry christmas. Well happy Zappadan to you too ass hole. Like Steve Vai says, "Fuck yourself with organized religion. Now there is some seriously sinnin business. If the lord sees their pathetic crimes, he'll be fuckin them, till the end of time"....
"Are you about worn out from all the television commercials, mostly about politics? Well here's a television commercial - about politics!"
In that one video, he says, "I don't have to wake up every day saying what do I need to believe..."
Does anyone wake up and say that? What do I need to believe today?
I hope God calls this SOB home TODAY.
Be sure to check out the comments field, there's a theological battle going on in there between the heathens and True Believers that's nothing but entertaining.
For myself, I find it hysterical that the Republican field is just so through and through awful that their base really doesn't have a choice but to throw in with Huckabee.
Especially with all the smart money and backing that Willard and Ghouliani have from the Washington Corporate insider set, and then to have this Aw-Shucks, Maw, Rube, Hick from the Sticks, come along and leave them scrambling for electorate cover, too funny.
Literally more fun than a barrel full of monkeys.
heheheh.
Also worth pointing out are all the response videos, 125+ of them strong in under 24 hours, like this one that's all about Santa's Balls.
You can almost see the wing-nuts heads explode from knowing that we're not laughing with them, but at them.
~Nyc
Sure hope that Huck's son shared his extensive collection of adult magazines with his dog killing brother and whack job father.
Got appreciate how low this family sets the "family values" bar. Thanks Huck.
I'd say the cross in the backround is subliminal messenging but it's pretty overt.
Huckabee is no longer amusing.
He's just insulting to Christians now.
Monsta-Monsta @ 9:
See those trees? THAT'S A FOREST!
The issue is not whether he is religious. I have no problem with anyone having a deep personal faith--Jimmy Carter, JFK come to mind. The difference between them and Huckabee is that Huckabee--despite a 230+ year fine tradition of respecting a separation between Church and State--is basically running as an unapologetic theocrat.
Sure looks like a nice big white KKK cross in the backgroung to me...
fwacbar @ 21:
The white cross didn't show up by accident. Very clever.
go ron
HAHAHAHAHAH...you just can't write this stuff...
get that huckabee son's roommate on CNN...we need to get to the bottom of this unforgiveable sin.
Huck's bible must be missing Matthew Chapter 6:
Let him keep leading all the sheep like a good shepherd does.. to the slaughter.
CD @ 19:
Sorta like when he talks about Christ and God.
I think he has decided we have had enough Presidents of the United States, he wants to be Preacher of the United States. You know who I think Huck is helping? I'm guessing it's Ron Paul.
What a c u next Tuesday !
As long as the republic party is forging full steam ahead w/ their “Tear down that wall” approach to Jefferson’s separation of church and state (and there’s no way in hell the other republic candidates are going to out-Jeebus Rev. Huckabee), they might do well just to wish a Merry Christmas in their own unique ways:
I’ll start w/ the easy ones:
Mitt Romney: Conducting the Mormon Tabernacle Choir (of course) in “What Child Is This?”
Rudy Giuliani: either in a reindeer outfit singing (what else?) “Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer” … or given his past, in drag as Judy Garland singing “Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas”
Alan Keyes: (Dare we say it? Sure!) Singing “White Christmas” at some barbeque joint in Des Moines … assuming Des Moines HAS a barbecue joint
Fred Thompson: I can just see him in a Burl Ives outfit vocalizing “Frosty the Snowman” … but that’s probably just me.
(Too good not to share, so h/t to Balloon Juice)
I think we should stay focused on the latest news:
Huckabee lied about having a theology degree, at least three times this year. He does NOT have such a degree. Funny, he didn't think we'd notice.
LIAR
ron paul quoted sinclair lewis in reference. "if fascism ever comes to America it will be carying a cross and wrapped in a flag."
Go ron.
ps site monitor this is completely on topic.
cheers
Dr. Matt @ 25:
What happens if the left hand knows what the right one is doing? Is that when the trouble starts? If you could have seen some of my typing today you would know that neither one of my hands knows what it is doing, let alone what the other one is up to.
OT: L.A. Confidential - thanks for the link and pointing that out. Just read the article and am now even more depressed... I just can't keep p with all the cons and scandals... That's a big one though. I guess Murdock gets his way again. That man is possibly more powerful than any politician on the planet at this point.
Huckabee is the best thing that can happen for the progressive movement. His nomination would draw a sharp contrast between evangelicals and everyone else and split the GOP wide open.
The smear machine in full effect!!!
This site has become Fox News of the left.
Huck's about as religious as any snake oil salesman.
As religious as the Bush who can't be bothered to ever even make it to church.
Who are the idiots who are so easily fooled into not actually looking at a candidate as soon as they blow the "I'm a religious guy, trust me!" smoke up their asses?
What's frightening about this message isn't its message at all. It's precisely what people want to hear: Let's stop the attack-style politics. Let's focus on what matters, family, friends, etc. Let's celebrate the holidays.
What makes it frightening is that it is perfectly executed propaganda.
In its effort to battle the cynicism of today's political world, it succeeds in being even more cynical, wrapping the explosive device in cute Santa paper.
The Huckster equivalent of Bush's Orwellian "Healthy Forest," "Clean Skies" or "No Child Left Behind."
Faux and their ignorant fruitloop gays are hilarious comedy.
When a politician is speaking in a TV commercial, he shouldn't speak as if everyone in the audience is Christian. They're not.
Ron Paul scares me....the guy is doing everything we needed the likes of Perot and Nader to do.....but he has some ties to very bad groups.
as for the Huck'ster....i just wish he would talk about food, that i can agree with
Eric Jaffa @ 40:
Yeah, but the ones who aren't are evil and anti-American so they don't count.
....but, but, but. Chuckie likes Huckie. I think the huckleberry thinks Chuck will be the leader of his crusades. I think he wants Chuck to kick anybodys ass who doesn't believe as he does. I'm pretty sure Mr. Norris doesn't want to be used in this way. Although, I may be wrong here. With the insanity of religion spreading like the black plague, who knows where peoples heads are.
Ok I take that back. After watching what Ron Paul said I feel all warm and fuzzy again.
...and WOW!...how about Ron Pauls comments about Huckabee! (Merry Christmas and fuck you Huckabee! Ha! hilarious!)
Douchey actually took it upon himself to actually-a-apologise for Ron Paul for calling him (Huckster) a fascist! in no uncertain terms!!!...thanks for that one Nicole...that was a rich little nugget!
and I seem to have lost my "quote function" and...maybe that is just as well.
@ Arnold Benedict, #32
Comment quote functionality isn't working for me, but holy crap that's a good quote. I've heard that RP is a different breed from the rest of the thugs, but still too socially conservative.
Maybe Kucinich/Paul ticket?
The Huckabee family and The Romney family ought to get together and compare notes about animal cruelty. Maybe they could run a joint ticket. Hell, we've already got a president who tortured and killed animals when he was young. They'd be the perfect replacement for that psychopath.
Guys? I think that is just a white bookcase. Okay, MAYBE it was cleverly shot by tightening up the lens and there you can make the dog-whistle claim, but at the end when it grows back out, you can clearly see another shelf above the "Cross" piece.
Rather than get into a lather about the way his camera person may or may not have been framing him, why not take the dude out on his record of lies? That would appeal to the rational folks who see this.
Why is The Huckabee doing so well now?
Let us count the ways...
1. Ghouliani.............................SUCKS!
2. Willard................................SUCKS!
3. Napalm McCain...................SUCKS!
4. Lazy Freddie......................SUCKS!
5. Whack-A-Doofus Keyes......SUCKS!
6. The Duncester...................SUCKS!
7. Racist Ron Paul.................SUCKS!
8. The Tancrazymeister.........SUCKS!
With a pathetic Rejokelican field of piping hot and steaming manure like that, of course The Reverend Unka Mike is gonna smell like a rose and they'll all flock to him in droves.
heheheh.
Looks like Ed Rollins has his work cut out for him.
~Nyc
Dr. Matt @ 25:
I've never seen an Evangelical bible, but there must be a LOT of the new testament missing.
casper46 @ 50:
Yep, pretty much.
After reading a few more comments about Paul I think it's time to do some research.
There should be a disclaimer:
*Not including soldiers in Iraq or Afghanistan.
Undercover brother @ 41
"Ron Paul scares me….the guy is doing everything we needed the likes of Perot and Nader to do…..but he has some ties to very bad groups."
Bad groups? ...you mean like the Counsel on Foriegn Relations?, Bilderburg meetings? Trilateral Commision meetings? WTO connections? ...Does he belong to a Big industry sponsored think tank group?...that kind of bad?
What kind of groups are you talking about? what is your definition of bad, and what sort of ties does he have (to them)? the bad... ...I'm curious cuz I wanna vote for him (so far).
I'm surprised that he didn't have the Baby Jeebus and Chuck Norris on his lap during this ad.
Please, Lord, just get me through this time of stress without hearing the terms "War on Christmas," "Christian values voter" or "our little Jewish friends" again and maybe my head won't explode. Save me from toadying rightist X-bots and christianists in this very special season (American shopping season).
Why is Ron Paul a racist? I don't get it.
momly @ 51:
Leviticus is in bold though.
ShouldBeWorking @ 52:
Excellent idea. Here's a good start for you.
My favorite part is when the self-proclaimed expert on the true meaning of the Constitution says that it is "replete with references to God." (Maybe he means some other country's constitution.)
Schmuckabee!!!!!!!!
So much for the end of torture, if elected Mike's boy will head CIA a proven torturer
No way in hell am I watching that video. The cross and the little white collar says it all. This guy has no business being in the White House.
But then, neither does Fuckface Jr.
Why all the criticism of Huckabee's ad?
At least he was sensitive enough to cover up the stigmata of the nail holes in his palms and ankles, and the holes where the thorns pierced his forehead.
Huck Jr. and porn? Unless he was possessing child porn and his dad quashed the investigation, I don't see the big deal. No laws broken, just a kid who was a goof during his college days. I'd rather see Huck mocked for believing Canada's House of Parliament is a big igloo.
Nice Christmas tree, Fuckabee. Thank you for including a symbol derived from paganism in your touchy-feely L.L.Bean wannabe ad.
The original pagan concept was that the tree would dispel evil. Apparently it doesn't work, as you can clearly see Fuckabee in the ad.
canuckistani @ 63:
Yeah, at least the kid shared his porn stash. Not like that damn Tagg Romney.
Gary @ 56:
Because calling someone a racist works. Decent people are disgusted by it, as well they should be. It doesn't have to be factual of course.
Thomas Jefferson would beat him senseless.
This is from the Yahoo/AP story on the same ad. Be careful, you may wish to sit down before reading this:
Huckabee makes Donahue want to have the separation of church and state again.
The irony is oozing off my laptop into a little puddle on the floor.
Gary @ 56:
Sorry in advance for the length, but the main criticism the below bit has gotten is that it's been quoted out of context and I want to avoid being accused of that.
Bear in mind that it's just a taste of the full piece that somehow became very hard to find, being that it's been disappeared/scrubbed from a lot of the sites that it used to be posted on.
That being said, here is Racist Ron Paul, In His Own Words:
That answer your question?
Full text of this "piece" can be found here, if you can stomach it, and, if not, be sure to pass it along to your friends.
God Bless America, All Others Pay Cash On The Barrel Head.
Thank you.
~Nyc
Chris @ 66:
Read a little before opening your yapper:
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/ron_paul_racist_anti_semite/
The American public doesn't need education, it needs electro-shock, or lobotomy treatment, if, after seven years of the current idiot, they're falling again for the pure bullshit of the god-driven whacko who has learned to fake rationality, sincerity, competence.
Huckabee, like Bush, may 'believe' what he says, but it doesn't matter whether he 'believes' it or not, it's bullsh*t, and sane folks should recognize it.
That an ignorant imbecile who thinks he's an 'instrument of 'god'', and 'knows' 'his' 'will', and thus bears no personal responsibility for what he does, is so high in the polls, is a sad indictment of the lack of rational thinking on the part of the American public.
Especially since they have such a misbegotten, warped, deluded, horrific example of an almost identical idiot sitting in the White House right now, and can see the results of his concept of 'god's' will in the body bags littering the world's landscape, created by him, and the maimed, shattered bodies of those he didn't quite manage to kill filling hospitals, rehabilitation centers, and shattered homes here and in Iraq.
Fu*k Huckabee, and any miserable SOB stupid enough to be taken in by his pompous, pious, pontificating 'homey' putziness.
Relax. This country isn't going to elect a president who's name sounds like a cartoon dog.
President Huckieberry Hound.
Nicole Belle @ 20:
AMEN!
Let's see....
Demented Southern Religous Nutbar family Huckabee....
Or Stepford Zombie Eyes-Glazed with Goodness-family Romney?
I'm begining to see the advantage of this.
Virtually ALL the Religious nuts are stacked up on the right?
And, a very high majority are in the South.
And, since Bush as basically driven the Republic Party Fun-Car
off the Cliff, all those dumb-f*ck Chrisitianist should be out of power
all together in about 13 months.
So, just move the idiot wall from the South Border, to Around
all the Southern States, and seal the gates up.
It's not like we get a lot of economic and cultural value
from Alabama and South Carolina, right?
Within 30 years, they will have deevolved into the 14th century
(most of them are partial there already) and then we can
just air lift them all to Afghananstan to fight it out with the
Taliban.
Who says liberals don't have a long term foriegn policy plan?
Good for him.
It is about time someone stood up for the truth.
If degenerate liberal scumbags like (REVEREND) Al Sharpton and (REVEREND) Jesse Jackson can run for president should they too hide their Christian beliefs?
ShouldBeWorking @ 46:
The difference between Ron Paul and the others is that Ron does not believe it is the role of government to tell people how to run their lives. He conducts himself in a conservative way, but as president he would NOT tell people to be Christians or Atheists or anything. His philosophy is that it is NOT the President's (or the Congress's ) business. This is why he's disgusted by Hucks ad -- it mixes politics and religion and is a subtle promise to legislate morality. The window looking like a cross is NO ACCIDENT.
Old Billy, I couldn't believe my eyes when I read that even William Donahue of the Catholic League was disturbed by Huckabee's ad!
Seriously, I think hell just froze over!
Donahue said he was especially disturbed by the cross-like image created by a white bookcase in the background of the ad, saying he believed it was a subliminal message.
Isn't this the guy always going on about godless Hollywood and secular Jews?
andrew @ 75:
Exactly what truth is he standing up for? I hope it won't break your heart when I tell you Jesus Christ wasn't born on December 25th!
Unlike Huckabee, liberals don't prostitute their religious beliefs to win votes.
Ok little troll, bye-bye now!
andrew @ 75:
Problem is Huckabee's evangelism, not his being a Christian.
Care to discuss what truth you are referring to in Huckabee's ad. Or are you just on a drive by?
Mike Huckabee's son killed a dog by hanging it from a tree. He said he did it because the dog was starving and mangey.
I am reminded of G.H.W. Bush's son who killed frogs by blowing them up.
There's something WRONG in those families.
Dear Huck,
How come your God gave you that giant bald spot? Was that intelligent design?
I'm starting to think Huckabee has a crush on his little imaginary friend jesus.
The sad reality is for Andrew and this christianist pals is, Huckabee won't
even make it to the nomination, the NeoCons and the Corporate Wing
for the Republic Party will torpedoe him long before that.
Because, it's not about Jesus, it's about the dollar, always has been.
They just play the poor Christian fools as saps, and feed them Supply
Side Tax Cutting Jesus to keep their brains washed squeaky clean.
Old Billy @ 70:
Oh good, the old, "Israel: love its government or you hate all Jews!" You picked the anti-Semitism card. Good choice! May I also suggest, "Love Bush, or you hate America!" Please, tell everyone why the Israeli government should have more influence over the US government than US citizens do. And then tell me why I hate America for not loving Bush.
Merry Christas to you too Mike
Dustin de Wynde@69 said,"Sorry in advance for the length, but the main criticism the below bit has gotten is that it’s been quoted out of context and I want to avoid being accused of that."
I say well... you havent fixed your problem of "being accused of that" because the cut and paste you did is from an out of contex rant (I see supposed quotes attributed to Paul) by somebody called "only the messenger") (w/out any links to back it up I might add)
Dustin de Wynde@69 said,"Bear in mind that it’s just a taste of the full piece that somehow became very hard to find, being that it’s been disappeared/scrubbed from a lot of the sites that it used to be posted on."
I say, Well...that is suspicious (in more than one way) ...and why dont you get to work and come back w/ some links to some original stuff (instead of this hearsay stuff) so I can stop "accusing you of that"
What really gets me about the religious whack-jobs in this country is how they've somehow seized, and laid claim to, the moral high ground, as if, (the Catholic Church spending billions of dollars to make sure that their Institutional, decades long rape of America's children went away and never saw the inside of a Court Room, nothwithstanding), that had any basis in reality whatsoever.
Amazing.
Talk about a masterful spin and PR job.
It wasn't us Godless Heathens that burned those witches at the stake in Salem, now was it?
Or put people in the stockade because they got drunk in public, or had sex with someone who wasn't their spouse?
Lord knows how nice and tolerant those freaks were to homosexuals back then, and towards dark skinned colored people too.
The reason the Founding Fathers separated the religious from our Government is because, given the chance, these crazies would abuse any and everything in their sight.
That's what they do, that's what they've always done, and what they always will do, that's why they need to be firewalled away from politics.
The really neat part of it is is that all their justifications for doing their crazy, life hating, stuff are all found in that vile, nasty, mean, disgusting, repulsive, hot, steaming pile of feces, piece of evil filth, book that they call a "holy" bible.
Before you climb all over me for saying that, ask yourself if these stories of Lot giving up his virgin daughters to be gang-raped by an angry mob, and then having these same daughters get him drunk so that they can have sex with him are appropriate reading material for say, a 3rd Grade Sunday School class?
All of the above comes straight out the First Chapter of the bible, it's all in Genesis, you can look it up, book, chapter, and verse.
As if any of them have ever sat down and read the darned thing and seen this for themselves, any reasonable person would have their doubts after reading something like that as being the Word of God, don't you think?
Heck, most of them can't handle reading the newspaper, and judging from their language skills on the Freeper sites, it's obvious they don't have much command of the English language, so I doubt any of them got that far with the Beatitudes and Begats.
400+ years this minority of mentally ill and morally delusional people have held sway over life in North America, isn't it past time for them to exit the stage before they do any more damage to our society and culture than they already have?
~Nyc
The problem with Ron Paul is that he is a Libertarian, and Libertarianism is a two-edged sword; In the GOP debates the one edge is readily apparent and quite attractive; however, it is inseparable from the other edge. Paul believes that the government doesn't have the power to spy on us and that it shouldn't be running around getting involved in wars of dubious value---fantastic. But he is also against foreign aid and membership in the UN. He is also against most government regulation (e.g., food, drugs, etc.); market forces and/or the court system are supposed to sufficiently protect us from the excesses of the corporations. We've tried that and the results were none too good. So the current GOP line is that government is bad unless it is manages our "empire", maintaining "law and order" or helping out the corporations; Ron Paul just believes that it is bad across the board. Better Paul than the rest of the corporatistical imperialists in the GOP field, but he's still much, much less progressive than any of those in the Democratic field (even HRC).
displaying one's faith for personal/political gain . . . very spiritual
Dustin de Wynde @ 69:
So Ron Paul wrote that? According to one of the links, he says he didn't. And you sent me a Usenet posting. Whoopty doo. Guess what? I could go on usenet and post something quoting Hillary Clinton when she never said it. I could go write something right now on a blog that says, "On the campaign trail in Iowa today, Hillary Clinton got irate at a staffer's mistake and was heard saying, 'Those stupid n---! Why did I hire one of them??' And I could probably get it picked up by a bunch of Republican blogs because they hate Hillary.
If you can find several independent quotes attributable to Ron Paul that are racist, you'd have something.
Get back to me when you find a recording of Ron Paul using the N-word or saying, "All blacks are criminals." or something like that.
he's looking super gomer-ish in this
milquetoast @ 86:
Oh, that's the full, and original piece, in it's entirety, alright, and I know that you know that for a fact and that you've seen it before.
Nice try though.
What's happened with the sites that originally had it up when this story broke earlier this year is that they were so swamped by you RonPaulBotTards, (to the point where it became a de facto Denial of Service Attack), and choosing between high bandwidth costs, and keeping their sites up and running, most opted to pull the piece.
This is what the RonPaulBottards did in this case, because it really messes up your illusionary and delusional narrative, so you had it buried.
Good for you.
However places like DailyKos and Google Groups, which is the safe harbor this racist 1992 piece of Ron Paul's found refuge, are immune from the extortionate tactic of shutting down websites, (that you guys do in a swarm, anytime inconvenient information about your hero-boy surfaces), have the resources to be immune from a thug tactic like this.
Thanks for playing.
Please drive through, twice.
~Nyc
Another New Ad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0md2vXiOGs
This Sherri Shepherd creature on the 'View' would make a perfect running mate/concubine/wanker for Huckabee, once they got over their differences.
She thinks the universe is 2,000 years old, he knows it's 6,000.
Once they determine the exact day of it's birth, so they can celebrate it's birthday, they'll get along just fine.
Like two rocks.
Looks like I called it.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/18/huckabee-denies-sublimin...
see you when tea is hot
December 21 I'll celebrate the birth of Frank Zappa. Christmas is just the day I get paid without working thanks to other peoples superstition.
I wonder if Jesus would approve of being politicized .... )remember from the new testament: give to caesar what is caesar's and give to God what is God's) H
Huckabee must have some real important status with God to officially "approve" of such a message. what a hipocrite
http://youtube.com/watch?v=lz_OZVk_Es0&feature=related this is about your typical repug.....getting grilled.
Dustin de Wynde@69
Excuse me, ...my quote function is not working...but the link you provided TWICE(two of the same although you labeled them different)took me to an old google group page...and the topic was... "Riots in L.A." ...and the first post of the thread is by someone called "only the messenger"...and it is entitled LOS ANGELES RACIAL TERRORISM...and it has no author"s name...correct? I mean...the way it is titled...it looks like "only the messenger is the author? ...no?
I call bullshit mon.
you are unprofessional...
you are unsubstantiated...
you are unworthy...
redeem yourself and post some some links to original material
To me, It looks like the thread opener callsmself "only the messenger" claimed the info was.....Taken from the Ron Paul Political Report, 1120 NASA Blvd., Suite 104,
Houston, TX 77058 for $50 per year. Call 1-800-766-7285.
Do some research, get some real facts...(call or write the address above NOW) and get the dirty inside story and get back to us...earn that paycheck...I dare ya!
I call bullshit on your hearsay doodoo!
holy scumbag...the worst kind! endangering women everywhere.
milquetoast @ 100:
Cosmo Kramer, and Michael Richards, please.
I should have known better than to engage with the RonPaulTardBot Wing of the Wingnut section of the Republican Party, (not that all you so-called Republicans aren't out to lunch), on matters of fact, and Public Record, but whatever, and I'll keep this as brief, and civil, without resorting to name calling, (much), as possible, and then I'm as done with you as I've been with Ron Paul.
Fair enough?
Good.
It's a deal.
First off, I make no representation of being professional, having to substantiate anything to you, or anyone else, or having to be worthy of your approval.
I don't need it, not from you, or anyone else, except, of course, the hard-working Site Monitors here that could yank my posting privilege for stirring up the Ron Paul hornet's nest, which, if your past swarms on here when any negative Ron Paul information emerges are any indication, would keep them working overtime.
Call BS on me all day long, and twice on Sunday, it doesn't, and won't, matter.
Also, nobody is paying me to do this, so where that 'earn that paycheck' line came from is beyond me, do you know something about my financials that I don't?
I prefer to let the facts to speak for themselves, and in this case I don't have to go any further than a Google Search with these neutral, non-inflammatory, non-biased, keywords:
Ron Paul Political Report 1992 Newsletter
There are almost 300K hits there, but why don't you go ahead and just focus on the first one from DailyKos, titled:
Ron Paul, In His Own Words
The author put a lot of hard work into it, and if he doesn't have his facts straight, I suggest you take it up with him, m'kay?
Since he posted it about half a year ago and hasn't felt compelled to put up an Errata section, I wish you luck with that endeavor.
Also, plenty of links on that original Google page there to keep you busy, by all means, feel free to get back to us when you're finished with that.
Thanks!
That'd be great!
I'm so glad we had the time to have this little chat, and I hope it cleared up any questions that you may have had about the heinous, racist, Ron Paul written, material I presented here.
Now run along now and have you a nice, All-American, day.
Consider yourself excused, and dismissed.
Go float that ridiculous blimp of yours and leave the rest of us alone.
Bye now.
:P
~Nyc
Ron Paul didn't write that article, and even when it was debunked Dailykos refused to take it down. Besides, Dailykos can be trusted about as much as Fox can.
102 Dustin de Wynde
You just wimped out big time and sent me to take it up w/(someone@Dailykos)...WTF%?!%?
ROFLMAO
yes (I will agree by default)your are not a pro!
Dustin de Wynde @ 102:
Wise words...
Just curious, did you look for any articles that would point out that Ron Paul didn't write those things? I looked and I found some:
here is one
here is another
Some people on this site are quick to jump on the "Death to All Repugs" bandwagon. Which is actually understandable given the current state of affairs.
However, not _all_ republicans are evil demons that want to eat your unborn children. Just like not _all_ democrats are spineless, gutless, wimps that cower at the mere sight of their own shadow.
I really am not sure why Ron Paul gets so much hate directed at him, he really does have this counties best interest at heart . I think it is unfair to lump him into the same category as the crooks and liars that are intentionally, or at the very least knowingly, screwing this country over.
i doubt that those americans who keep dogs as pets will support the huckster.
Ron Paul replies about the commercial on Fox and friends:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrkltetQ0x4
noitaluspacne @ 105:
Yeah, I saw them and dismissed them as desperate back-pedaling because the facts remain that:
a) This has been out for 15+ years and only now Dr. Paul wants to disavow them? Please.
b) His name is on them
c) His organization, then and now, is just to small for something like this to have simply just "fallen through the cracks," sorry I don't, and won't, buy that, sell that to some other sap.
Don't even get me started on Congressman Mister Doctor Paul being one of only two members of Congress voting against honoring Rosa Parks with a Medal, on the most specious of grounds.
You can google that one on your own.
Thanks for playing but this conversation is beyond borrrriiiiinnng now and I'm done with it.
Take care and buh-bye, Sonny boy.
~Nyc
dustin de wind
says :"Don’t even get me started on Congressman Mister Doctor Paul being one of only two members of Congress voting against honoring Rosa Parks with a Medal, on the most specious of grounds."
ron paul says: No to a congressional gold medal for Pope John Paul II and Ronald Reagan and Rosa Parks. He says the medals are an unconstitutional use of taxpayer money and once suggested each House member instead contribute 100 bucks from his or her own pocket.
against the constitution? sounds "specious" to me...pfft
Ron Paul is the MAN!!!
You can see the extra lighting for the shelf and the framing of it by the camera!
gov butt fuckabee is the man to carry on bushco good work
Ron Paul...still a corporatist, still a BS 'free market' magic bean seller
If you hate taxes...then walk the F***ing walk.... don't use anything that has tax dollar money in it....better be ready for a long, long, long list of things you 'enjoy' at your leisure every single day....
If you believe an entity whose sole purpose is the profit margin will be good for you/and your family....then you've already fallen off the beanstalk and your brain popped out when you hit the ground...
Never in the history of the world has a corporatocracy worked...ever, if you want to see one in action....look no further than the gleaming jewel of right wingnut/flat earth/corporate/privatized/no tax/no democracy rule....Iraq. Case closed.
I hope: 1) his christmas tree catches fire
2)a pack of rabid dogs mauls his obese sons
3)he gets crabs from larry craig
Happy Holidays, you insane theocratic moron.
Dustin de Wynde @ 108:
You clearly don't understand Ron Paul... you want facts?
FACT:
Yes, Ron Paul voted against the medal for Rosa Parks.
FACT:
He also voted against against medals for Ronald Regan and the Dali Lama! LOL
Don't you want to know WHY? Aren't you the least bit curious?
Congressman Paul voted against awarding this medal over and over because he does not think it is a good use of taxpayer dollars.
Instead of shelling out $30,000 of taxpayers' money, Paul proposed that each member of Congress ought to pay $100 out of his or her own pocket. This way, the money for the medal would be raised and each member of Congress would be contributing to the cause that he or she values so much. He also stressed his respect for Parks, saying that she was a courageous woman who committed herself to the cause of freedom and against an overbearing government that is unanswerable to the people it serves.
Here is an excerpt from an interview on CNN where Ron Paul was asked about this: Ron Paul explains it to Wolf Blitzer
right wing hater @ 112:
Ron Paul says Iraq is a mess, not a shining example of what he wants THIS country to become.
Yes, Ron Paul wants to do away with the IRS. If the FEDERAL government were to cut back on spending, the FEDERAL income tax wouldn't be necessary. States are still free to whatever they wish as far as taxing and funding social programs.
114 noitaluspacne
dont bother telling any one here about ron paul.theyve all caught some weird bug that says hes a racists and a kook but none can back it up,and when they point out that he didnt give a medal to rosa parks or that he wrote a racist paper 14 years ago and then you refute it with facts they just say "ahh hes crazy and so are you"...
ron paul best choice for the united states of america from all the candidates
Mike, I hope you have a Kwazy Kwannza, you theocratic bastard.
We all know Santa Claus is a black man, anyway...
You say: "UPDATE: Uh oh. I think that Huckabee might want to bring that WWJD attitude back home a little more before he pushes it to the electorate."
I say: These people haven't a CLUE what Jesus would do. They ignore the red letter admonishment that a rich man will no sooner enter the Kingdom than a camel shall pass through the eye of a needle. The first Christians were communists: property was an unknown concept; every person shared every other person's wealth and no one "owned" anything. Today, some of these theo-creeps are so filthy rich a REPUBLICAN senator has initiated hearings to determine if they're violating federal laws, and Shuckabee himself is so covetous he leaft state office asking supporters (i.e. cronies who owed him favors in return for what he'd done for them as governor) to shop a list of "renewed vows" gifts at local department stores. For all of Shuckabee's pardoning of criminals, he excludes the sexual minorities from the table as if they were lepers, ignoring the fact that his own religion teaches that Jesus never married and traveled everywhere in the company of twelve MALES. Duh! It's not for nothing that the Book says John was "the disciple Jesus loved best." LOVED -- get it?! Shuckabee is about as Christian as Osama bin-Laden.
Well, that just fills me up with SO much Holiday Spirit that I think I'll just SHIT my shorts!
"Have Yourself That Merry Fucking Christmas!"
From Santa Claus The Pedophile
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