Hillary Clinton: "Together, we have presented a case for change"

Hillary Clinton, along with boosters Bill and Chelsea Clinton, Madeleine Albright and Wesley Clark thanked all the other Democratic nominees (except Mike Gravel) and put her best face forward to her third place finish.

This is a great night for Democrats. We have seen an unprecedented turn out here in Iowa and that is good news. Because, today, we are sending a clear message: that we are going to have change and that change will be a Democratic president in the White House in 2009.

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Hubris Sonic did a little number crunching of the Iowa "turnstile count" and if Iowa is indicative of the entire nation, Hillary is absolutely right...this will be a big election for Democrats.



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I share her view though it may not be such a good election for her personally.

Tough tits, Hill.

So now is she an element for change as well ?

Yep, Hillary is a prime example of the need for change.

Hope she takes the hint.

As Tonto said to the Lone Ranger, "Who is 'We', Paleface?"

Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman Terry McAuliffe proves once again what an ineffectual loser he is.

Howard Dean must be smiling today!

Did you notice that the dems and thugs ended up roughly in order of charisma?

Back to the Hill for Hill. Maybe she can become something other than another open bag for the lobbyists.

It probably will be a big election for Democrats in 2008.

Unfortunately, the Borg Queen (Hillary) might not be a part of the returns.

I'm not hearing any candidates seriously talking about the train wreck known as the U.S. Economy.

Anyone else?

I hope you all will link to this article from Robert Parry at consortium news. You should all subscribe to this.

http://consortiumnews.com/2008/010408.html

Sorry, Charles, I thought I was being original with my remark until I saw yours. LOL

what a boring, conventional, triangulated speech. after watching her and obama's speeches back to back, it's crystal clear why obama won.

Joementum @ 4:

Yep, Hillary is a prime example of the need for change.

Hope she takes the hint.

She can start by apologizing for her Iraq war vote. Or does she need to be sent a message in New Hampshire as well that triangulation and Republican capitulation is a thing of the past.

It was a good speech though (except for the God bless you part at the end but she knew her audience. She would not have never said "God bless you" at the end of a speach to a crowd of Wall Streeters)

Maybe she can give a Triple Iraq speech? Change doesn't have to be in a positive direction.

seems like the des moines register poll was correct all the way...

So the only change she is promising is a change of the color guard?

As an independant voter I truly hope the Democratic party does change the Occupation, destruction of Civil Liberties

and restore respect fo the Rule of Law. After the 06 elections, and subsequent dismissal of the electorate's will, I am dubious.

Ideas are our main weapons.

What the plutocrat’s don’t realize is the new world technology, connects people in way’s they never imagined.

And through this connection the idea’s that will help emancipate mankind will be shared.

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L.A. Confidential @ 9:

I'm not hearing any candidates seriously talking about the train wreck known as the U.S. Economy.

Anyone else?

Didn't think so.

Hillary cleverly accentuated her newfound status as an agent of change by surrounding herself with the fresh, new faces of her husband, Madeleine Albright, Wesley Clark, and Terry McAuliffe. Change? Nonsense. She's planning revolution!!!

Iowa = Obama
New Hampshire = Hillary
S. Carolina = Edwards

So, of the three "media" idols, NO clear cut Democrat nominee until meaningful
Primaries held in other more representative States.

L.A. Confidential @ 18:

L.A. Confidential @ 9:

I'm not hearing any candidates seriously talking about the train wreck known as the U.S. Economy.

Anyone else?

Didn't think so.

I think they are saving the economy 'Ammo' for use in the general election where so far all the Repub candidates seem to support all Bush has done, though they fear to mention his name and generally campaign as if the economy is great. Unless something changes, the Dems will thrash the Repubs in the general election on this issue.

L.A. Confidential @ 9:

I'm not hearing any candidates seriously talking about the train wreck known as the U.S. Economy.

Anyone else?

Two Words: JOHN EDWARDS

Open your ears!!!!!

oh really @ 19:

Hillary cleverly accentuated her newfound status as an agent of change by surrounding herself with the fresh, new faces of her husband, Madeleine Albright, Wesley Clark, and Terry McAuliffe. Change? Nonsense. She's planning revolution!!!

It doesn't matter which Dem is elected President if it goes that way. There's going to be people who after a year are going to be screaming. HEY! WHERES THAT FREE LUNCH YOU PROMISED ME!

Big election for democrats??? Like when they got put in control of the house on a mandate from the people to get out of Iraq.

When your representative does not vote the way the constituents want, you do not have a representative you have an oligarch.

All these bureaucrats (Clinton, Albright, Clark, republicans too) don't give a shit about anything but keeping themselves and their colleagues in power so they can rape the people.

They ignore the people, they ignore their oath, they ignore the constitution and the rule of law.

All those who continue to support these traitors inspite of the continued tyranny and despotism are examples of statolatry.

Do you own yourself? Do you own your labor?

http://freedomkeys.com/collectivism.htm

Peace

Doggiebobo @ 20:

Iowa = Obama
New Hampshire = Hillary
S. Carolina = Edwards

So, of the three "media" idols, NO clear cut Democrat nominee until meaningful
Primaries held in other more representative States.

I thought Obama was polling well ahead of Edwards in SC? That may change now since he's got some momentum from Iowa. I hope you're right.

tweaties!

Scrape Hillary off like a scab....the corporate whore has lost and now knows what its like to be a Wal Mart employee on Payday!!!! SO DONE WITH THE BUSH CLINTON ERA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

oh really @ 19:

Hillary cleverly accentuated her newfound status as an agent of change by surrounding herself with the fresh, new faces of her husband, Madeleine Albright, Wesley Clark, and Terry McAuliffe. Change? Nonsense. She's planning revolution!!!

Good point.

Without a doubt, the best result for the Dems last night was Huckabee winning.

Change means NOT YOU, toots.

Check out this link from Glen Beck. He had some sort of surgery mishap.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/cnn/beck_surgery_goes_horribly_awry_...

ray @ 29:

Without a doubt, the best result for the Dems last night was Huckabee winning.

I gotta agree with that.

He's one of the most beatable candidates the Repugs have. I was actually *slightly* nervous about Giuliani... but none of the others have a prayer.

California Dave @ 22:

L.A. Confidential @ 9:

I'm not hearing any candidates seriously talking about the train wreck known as the U.S. Economy.

Anyone else?

Two Words: JOHN EDWARDS

Open your ears!!!!!

Yes I know about John. Trial Lawyer. He does have appeal at many levels, but it's doubtful he's going to come out and say. . . . Look people, Bush, Corporations and Wall Street has screwed you. You have a ZERO safety net. You've been buying into a lie. A Hallucination. You don't have JACK SQUAT. Nothing but empty promises backed by worthless bales of traded paper. The whole god damn thing could collapse as easily as it did suddenly one day in 1929. So Wake TF UP!

Not going to happen.

Whaddya mean..."WE"???????????????????????

The GOP is imploding right now. With Huckabee's triumph over Mitt and his money and the utter annihilation of Giuliani by Ron Paul... It has gotta hurt to be one of the martini swilling creampuffs in the GOP's elite circle.

If you go to a lot of right wing blogs... they are declaring Iowans to be stupid hicks, mocking their Christian base, talking about ways to circumvent the nomination process, and singing the praises of the "important" states like New York and California. Rush Limbaugh is accusing Huckabee of playing "identity politics," which he and the other right wing pundits have been doing quite happily for the last decade.

I don't care too much for Democrats... but I love the idea that the GOP establishment, after so much talk about values and persecution, is just flailing at its own voters for believing in the values that they claim to stand for.

Today is a day for smiling.

Obama's rhetoric of change gets two birds with one stone because it hits both Bush (and his current candidate supporters) and Hillary.

JJohnson @ 32:

ray @ 29:

Without a doubt, the best result for the Dems last night was Huckabee winning.

I gotta agree with that.

He's one of the most beatable candidates the Repugs have. I was actually *slightly* nervous about Giuliani... but none of the others have a prayer.

I agree, we have to pull for Hucksterbee...then the GOP will lose!

wow. you guys have no grace. i'm sick and ashamed of the Hillary trashing. some of you guys are as foul as the republicans towards one of our own. the misogyny and double standards disgust me. have some class and treat the senator with some respect. act like a goddamn liberal.

Ruthless People @ 25:

Doggiebobo @ 20:

Iowa = Obama
New Hampshire = Hillary
S. Carolina = Edwards

So, of the three "media" idols, NO clear cut Democrat nominee until meaningful
Primaries held in other more representative States.

I thought Obama was polling well ahead of Edwards in SC? That may change now since he's got some momentum from Iowa. I hope you're right.

It just seems or sounds absurd to me for the "media" to already, after ONLY one
primary, be making predictions; as if the other 48 States don't or won't have any significant inpact as to who will be the Democrat Prez. nominee. These three States(Iowa, N. Hampshire and S. Carolina) represent only a small voice of the registered voters and have even a lesser impact upon the total Electoral Votes, so I am not getting all
that excited about which candidate wins these three primaries...BIGGER and more
representative Primaries are to be held in Feb/March after which I feel we the people
(and NOT the media) will have had our say.

L.A. Confidential @ 9:

I'm not hearing any candidates seriously talking about the train wreck known as the U.S. Economy.

Anyone else?

Not a one. No one is mentioning the economy at all and I wish they would.

bigtobacco @ 35:

The GOP is imploding right now.

That was a popular saying in 2004 also.

Pundits know that the Clintons are the ultimate political chameleons. With Obama's triumph over her campaign in Iowa, it is inevitable that she will begin to adopt many of his successful positions. The question riveting the nation is, will Hillary Clinton's flesh actually get darker?

scoutt @ 39:

wow. you guys have no grace. i'm sick and ashamed of the Hillary trashing. some of you guys are as foul as the republicans towards one of our own. the misogyny and double standards disgust me. have some class and treat the senator with some respect. act like a goddamn liberal.

I will if she will.

I thought Hillary gave a gracious speech. It was just different from Obama's. I thought his speech was fabulous, but I thought hers was great in its own way.

I am glad to see that someone finally took that total number of votes and broke the percentages down by candidate rather than by party. That gives a much clearer picture as to the outcome of the caucus.

While everyone knew that each party would have one winner, the bigger story is what the numbers were behind each winner as they compare to the opposing party.

scoutt @ 39:

wow. you guys have no grace. i'm sick and ashamed of the Hillary trashing. some of you guys are as foul as the republicans towards one of our own. the misogyny and double standards disgust me. have some class and treat the senator with some respect. act like a goddamn liberal.

How does treating someone with respect that you have no respect for make you a liberal?
How does not liking her automatically equate to misogyny? In fact that argument is something the wingnuts would trot out.
What double standards?

Joementum @ 44:

scoutt @ 39:

wow. you guys have no grace. i'm sick and ashamed of the Hillary trashing. some of you guys are as foul as the republicans towards one of our own. the misogyny and double standards disgust me. have some class and treat the senator with some respect. act like a goddamn liberal.

I will if she will.

you sound like a childish republican.

Big Dan @ 37:

JJohnson @ 32:

ray @ 29:

Without a doubt, the best result for the Dems last night was Huckabee winning.

I gotta agree with that.

He's one of the most beatable candidates the Repugs have. I was actually *slightly* nervous about Giuliani... but none of the others have a prayer.

I agree, we have to pull for Hucksterbee...then the GOP will lose!

Huckabee may well win. I don't overestimate the American citizens desire to stay informed. Most only know him as the Christian candidate that loves Jesus.

L.A. Confidential @ 33:

California Dave @ 22:

L.A. Confidential @ 9:

I'm not hearing any candidates seriously talking about the train wreck known as the U.S. Economy.

Anyone else?

Two Words: JOHN EDWARDS

Open your ears!!!!!

Yes I know about John. Trial Lawyer. He does have appeal at many levels, but it's doubtful he's going to come out and say. . . . Look people, Bush, Corporations and Wall Street has screwed you. You have a ZERO safety net. You've been buying into a lie. A Hallucination. You don't have JACK SQUAT. Nothing but empty promises backed by worthless bales of traded paper. The whole god damn thing could collapse as easily as it did suddenly one day in 1929. So Wake TF UP!

Not going to happen.

That was pretty much his speech on Faux Snooze. He actually sounds in a different league than Obamania and the Hill and Bill dog and pony corporate show. Just my opinion.

Filthy Harry @ 47:

scoutt @ 39:

wow. you guys have no grace. i'm sick and ashamed of the Hillary trashing. some of you guys are as foul as the republicans towards one of our own. the misogyny and double standards disgust me. have some class and treat the senator with some respect. act like a goddamn liberal.

How does treating someone with respect that you have no respect for make you a liberal?
How does not liking her automatically equate to misogyny? In fact that argument is something the wingnuts would trot out.
What double standards?

what do you not respect? you don't "like" her. why? too ambitious? too political? too calculating?
the usual vapid bs.

was that Elizabeth Kucinich glowing over Hil's right shoulder? It seems Dennis' one-night "endorsement" of Obama didn't speak for the both of them...

Alex @ 31:

Check out this link from Glen Beck. He had some sort of surgery mishap.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/cnn/beck_surgery_goes_horribly_awry_74231.asp

What kind of surgery did he have, a lobotomy?

Weaseldog @ 49:

Big Dan @ 37:

JJohnson @ 32:

ray @ 29:

I gotta agree with that.

He's one of the most beatable candidates the Repugs have. I was actually *slightly* nervous about Giuliani... but none of the others have a prayer.

I agree, we have to pull for Hucksterbee...then the GOP will lose!

Huckabee may well win. I don't overestimate the American citizens desire to stay informed. Most only know him as the Christian candidate that loves Jesus.

Not sure who who you are referring to as "desiring to stay informed"; but perhaps you
are referring to that extremely small group of ultra conservative, religious right-wing
folks who(mostly from Arkansas, Tennessee, Georgia) frequently visit the Creation
Museum in Pittsburgh, Tennessee and have walked through the exhibits depicting
how man/woman and the dinasours co-existed ONLY 6,000 years ago...

scoutt @ 48:

Joementum @ 44:

scoutt @ 39:

wow. you guys have no grace. i'm sick and ashamed of the Hillary trashing. some of you guys are as foul as the republicans towards one of our own. the misogyny and double standards disgust me. have some class and treat the senator with some respect. act like a goddamn liberal.

I will if she will.

you sound like a childish republican.

"one of our own"? well, i guess a lot of peeps here are democrats, personally i am not. and she is not a liberal.... so, to me, she is not one of my "own". she is a professional politician, employing some of the slimiest political operatives alive today,

and i think Joementum's comment was perfect. she acts more like a corporatist than a liberal. and treating her differently--with kid-gloves--because she is a woman would seem more misogynistic to me. the fact that she is just as open to ridicule and derision as a male candidate is a good thing. or would you prefer that, because she is a woman, that people play nice and hold back?

scoutt @ 51:

Filthy Harry @ 47:

scoutt @ 39:

wow. you guys have no grace. i'm sick and ashamed of the Hillary trashing. some of you guys are as foul as the republicans towards one of our own. the misogyny and double standards disgust me. have some class and treat the senator with some respect. act like a goddamn liberal.

How does treating someone with respect that you have no respect for make you a liberal?
How does not liking her automatically equate to misogyny? In fact that argument is something the wingnuts would trot out.
What double standards?

what do you not respect? you don't "like" her. why? too ambitious? too political? too calculating?
the usual vapid bs.

What does it matter why I disrespect her? You haven't answered my question. If I don't respect her, why should I treat her with respect?

And lets assume for a hypothetical that the reasons you gave for not respecting her were my reason as well. Why dismiss them as vapid? Because you don't agree with them? Maybe they are valid to me?

I must say I equate being liberal with being capable of rational and critical thought not with respecting someone 'just because'. Again, sounds like right-wing reasoning to me. Too much respect for authority. eww.

Instead of demanding respect for her, you'd get better results by arguing intelligibly about why people should respect her.

ConcernedCanuck @ 50:

That was pretty much his speech on Faux Snooze. He actually sounds in a different league than Obamania and the Hill and Bill dog and pony corporate show. Just my opinion.

He's most definitely not promising the younger voters . . . "Our gross domestic product will be TV watching, blogging, laptop squatting, cell phone yapping, blackberrying, partying, and no one will every have to work again. You'll be paid to do this stuff. And the most effort you will every have to put out, is checking your online account to make sure you e-deposit arrived."

Ouch

As a former Biden supporter, I'm now going with Hillary. Being a New Yorker I can say that she is a fine Senator. And as someone with muscular dystrophy and an activist for embryonic stem cell research, unlike either Obama or Edwards she has been at the forefront of the fight for this research.

As for Obama, he is the second coming of an inexperienced administration a la Carter --that's if the GOP noise machine doesn't make his head spin first, and they will.

Yeah, here's the change: No more Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton. That means you, Hillary.

scoutt @ 39:

wow. you guys have no grace.... act like a goddamn liberal.

That has to be one of the most ironic statement's I've seen at C&L.....the contrast of Grace with Goddamn.

That's respect, boy if only more people had respect like that.... ;)

oh really @ 19:

Hillary cleverly accentuated her newfound status as an agent of change by surrounding herself with the fresh, new faces of her husband, Madeleine Albright, Wesley Clark, and Terry McAuliffe. Change? Nonsense. She's planning revolution!!!

I couldn't agree more. There is so much change in that picture, it is astounding.

L.A. Confidential @ 57:

ConcernedCanuck @ 50:

That was pretty much his speech on Faux Snooze. He actually sounds in a different league than Obamania and the Hill and Bill dog and pony corporate show. Just my opinion.

He's most definitely not promising the younger voters . . . "Our gross domestic product will be TV watching, blogging, laptop squatting, cell phone yapping, blackberrying, partying, and no one will every have to work again. You'll be paid to do this stuff. And the most effort you will every have to put out, is checking your online account to make sure you e-deposit arrived."

Ouch

I'm not that young, but that pretty much sums up the teens I know to a tee. LOL!

Have we corrected the rigged federal election methods yet? Still no paper trails that I can see.

Oh well, let's enjoy our day in the sun today because on Nov. 3 all us loser Dems will be crying about how we were robbed, yet again.

There should have been one issue only in the last 4 years - paper trails for elections.

This will be a big year for the Democrats, but not for Hillary, she'll have to learn about change first.

Doggiebobo @ 54:

Weaseldog @ 49:

Big Dan @ 37:

JJohnson @ 32:

I agree, we have to pull for Hucksterbee...then the GOP will lose!

Huckabee may well win. I don't overestimate the American citizens desire to stay informed. Most only know him as the Christian candidate that loves Jesus.

Not sure who who you are referring to as "desiring to stay informed"; but perhaps you
are referring to that extremely small group of ultra conservative, religious right-wing
folks who(mostly from Arkansas, Tennessee, Georgia) frequently visit the Creation
Museum in Pittsburgh, Tennessee and have walked through the exhibits depicting
how man/woman and the dinasours co-existed ONLY 6,000 years ago...

Most of the people I know from around Dallas don't follow politics at all. They'll watch a bit on the news and go to the polls completely uniformed.

Those of us that are political junkies live in a different world than most Americans. We're a self selected group. We tend to hang out with people that also keep up with politics. After a time, it becomes easy to believe that everyone is informed and wants to be informed.

Frank Cocozzelli @ 58:

As for Obama, he is the second coming of an inexperienced administration a la Carter --that's if the GOP noise machine doesn't make his head spin first, and they will.

Administration? I didn't realize Obama had made any appointments.

scoutt @ 51:

what do you not respect? you don't "like" her. why? too ambitious? too political? too calculating?
the usual vapid bs.

I, for one, don't respect her rubbing shoulders with Rupert Murdoch, his doing fundraising for her.
I don't like it when a senator who doesn't represent me tells the world that ALL the people in the US support Israel's attack against Lebanon.

I don't like, than when I write her a letter asking her not to speak for me, since she's not my senator, I get a form letter back from her office saying that as Senator Clinton is NOT my senator, she has no time to consider my email, nor respond to it. Funny. she had no problem endorsing an act of naked aggression and murder on my behalf.

I don't like that 6-7 months later she's all about "Let's start a conversation." Funny. When she was a senator, she had no time for one conversation.

I gotta million of 'em, but I just woke up and haven't had my coffee yet.

The only thing 'vapid' and 'bullshitty' here is your criticism of people who don't think the way you do. And accusing people who don't like her 'misogynist.' I wouldn't like this person for president if she were a guy. And I certainly wouldn't vote for her

miss_kitty @ 67:

scoutt @ 51:

what do you not respect? you don't "like" her. why? too ambitious? too political? too calculating?
the usual vapid bs.

I, for one, don't respect her rubbing shoulders with Rupert Murdoch, his doing fundraising for her.
I don't like it when a senator who doesn't represent me tells the world that ALL the people in the US support Israel's attack against Lebanon.

I don't like, than when I write her a letter asking her not to speak for me, since she's not my senator, I get a form letter back from her office saying that as Senator Clinton is NOT my senator, she has no time to consider my email, nor respond to it. Funny. she had no problem endorsing an act of naked aggression and murder on my behalf.

I don't like that 6-7 months later she's all about "Let's start a conversation." Funny. When she was a senator, she had no time for one conversation.

I gotta million of 'em, but I just woke up and haven't had my coffee yet.

The only thing 'vapid' and 'bullshitty' here is your criticism of people who don't think the way you do. And accusing people who don't like her 'misogynist.' I wouldn't like this person for president if she were a guy. And I certainly wouldn't vote for her

At least the military industrial complex has been backing her.

Who is the drunk with the mustache that Bill intentionally got in front of when the guy was trying to stand NEXT to Hillary? who is that mystery man?

I know some Hillarites were going to take it hard but I didn't think it would be this bad. Show some diginity. Obama won and you came in 3rd. There's an old saying: To the Victor goes the spoils.

Talcott @ 60:

scoutt @ 39:

wow. you guys have no grace.... act like a goddamn liberal.

That has to be one of the most ironic statement's I've seen at C&L.....the contrast of Grace with Goddamn.

That's respect, boy if only more people had respect like that.... ;)

Doubly ironic-someone demanding others 'act like a goddamn liberal.'

and by someone who supports Hillary Clinton. :lol:

Sorry. It's a trifecta!!!!! :P

Pundits know that the Clintons are the ultimate political chameleons. With Obama’s triumph over her campaign in Iowa, it is inevitable that she will begin to adopt many of his successful positions. The question riveting the nation is, will Hillary Clinton’s flesh actually get darker?

We'll have our answer if she starts wearing her hair in dreadlocks and looking like she's spending a lot of time in South Beach tanning salons...;-)

#63 nails it: Since not one candidate has called for paper trails, another stolen election is guaranteed. Repeat: Guaranteed. All this hupla is merely theatre, one big show for the stupid sheeple. Our voices don't count yet the sheeple just don't get it. Not one candidate has called to restore accountability and the trashed Constitution and habeus corpus, yet the sheeple still delude themselves all will be OK in 08.

I'm very happy with the results, on just a personal level, I have
a lot of rich Microsoft friends, who would vote for ANY Democrat
except Hillary, and are also kind of enamored of Rudy, cause he SEEMS to be a social liberal? It's the taxes thing....

But, they just HATE the Christian Conservative thing enough, they would probably have their taxes raised, just to see the RR thrown out of DC!

They all just detest Hillary, a true barometer of the fact Independents
would run from her like the building was on fire!

I sent some mail, just a bit gloating, asking whom they would vote for,
The Southern Babtist Preacher vs. Barack?

You can guess how they feel about a guy who thinks the world
is only 6000 years old....

Maybe some one should tell her that hanging with Madeleine Albright isn't doing her any good.

jimijazz @ 70:

I know some Hillarites were going to take it hard but I didn't think it would be this bad. Show some diginity. Obama won and you came in 3rd. There's an old saying: To the Victor goes the spoils.

and what a treat it is for us real progressives to witness Hillary getting a comeupance for her bullshit, triangulated, pro-war, pro-corporation, pro-death penalty, convictionless politicking. long overdue....
anyone but neocon Hillary.

I liked Hillary's speech. Tom Daschle said on Ed Schultz's show her team's going to go negative in NH

sHillary ... the name says it all.

Change my ass. This stuff is so staged it's sickening to watch anymore. Listen.....it's already been decided. Hillary will win the presidency. Then she'll be re-elected in 2012. NOTHING will change. We will continue the same path we are going now. 28 years of Bush/Clinton rule. The republican vs democrat thing is a hoax. Hillary is their gal and that's why she'll "win".

"their" meaning the international bankers

Dan Balz has an excellent piece of analysis up over at the WaPo about why NH might not be the cakewalk that Hillary supporters are hoping for:

http://tinyurl.com/39s3wo

The tasty bits:

"In virtually every demographic category where Obama found his greatest strength in Iowa, New Hampshire's electorate has at least as many or more of those voters, based on a comparison of the entrance polls from Thursday's caucuses in Iowa and from the 2004 Democratic primary in Hampshire.

Take independents. They constituted 20 percent of the caucus electorate in Iowa on Thursday, but four years ago in New Hampshire they constituted nearly half (48 percent) of the Democratic electorate."

Hillary will continue to make an excellent public servant for NY.

IOWA primary has a strong message. REAL change. No more of the "same old" politics that brought this nation at its recent worse.

IRAQ WAR has destroyed the Nations pocket book and the nations psyche. And WE are not going to take it any longer. Hillary Clinton voted for the WAR and continue to Fund the WAR that drained the Nations TREASURY and Reputation from Bill Clinton's Surplus to a DEFICIT.

Its all about OIL and Corporate/Government GREED. The Robin Hood reverse policy (take from the poor and give to the rich) has backfire where it will hurt them the most (the pocket book).

Obama may have won his first victory, but there is a reason for that. To send a message to Hillary Clintons that illegal war is NOT acceptable. Funding the war is NOT acceptable. And Corporate Backers are a reflection of the "SAME" kind of old politics and greed that has tainted our White House. Obama may want to think twice about the CORPORATE CAMPAIGN BIG money he has COLLECTED from the OIL, INSURANCE, and MEDIA and Special interest.

It was a brilliant political move for Kucinich to direct his supporter vote to OBAMA. It sends a message to Hillary, Edwards, Democratic Party, and the Media that illegal war in IRAQ is not acceptable to AMERICA and that mocking Kucinich and removing him from political debate and not giving AMERICA the right to hear Kucinich and ALL the candidates is clearly a mistake. AMERICA sees the Media and political BIAS thats been demonstrated since the Presidential Campaign began.

EDWARDS may have to think twice the next time he gets CAUGHT scheming with Hillary Clinton to try to bully Dennis Kucinich out of POLITICAL DEBATE.

Let this be a WAKE-up CALL for Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Harry Reid, Shumer, Rahm Emanuel, John Conyer that OUR U.S. Constitution is not to be tampered with but instead SHOULD BE RESPECTED.

AMERICA is tired of it ALL.

Dennis Kucinich is the most honest, most patriotic, most representative of AMERICA.

He Won his third straw poll in the Democratic Party and the main stream pollings are being scrutinized by the voters. Frankly, I don't buy these paid-for-profit polling entities.

*real change*. I'm sorry but put down the Kool-aid younguns. Whoever is elected the new boss will look remarkably like the old boss on oh-so-many-issues. I'd prefer a democrat but my god, if you get obama, his dog, edwards or the eggman elected I swear to god you'll be here crying bitter tears in 6 months because your man didnt build a space elevator to the moon, feed the homeless, kill NAFTA and cure cancer.

I don't get how people believe these slogans.

Somehow, I don't think the change that a wholly-owned corporate subsidiary plans is going to look all that different from what we've got today.

"Change" was the slogan Bill ran on first time around when he ran against Bush senior. It was weird hearing Hillary trying to use the same slogan. It just didn't work coming out of her mouth. Then, It was the huge banner word over Obama's head as he took the stage to give his victory speech. It works for him. He is refreshing. His speech was totally inspiring. I don't know what any of that will mean next week, but it impressed me last night.

Where would Obama be without Oprah? Where would Oprah be without corporate sponsors? And Hillary is the corporate whore?

Hypocrites!

Mr. XXXX @ 6:

Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman Terry McAuliffe proves once again what an ineffectual loser he is.

Howard Dean must be smiling today!

Terry McAuliffe is the campaign chair? That explains why she's imploding. Terry oversaw loss after loss as DNC chairman, and it took the 2004 debacle to finally force him out (even though the Dems wavered on that a bit too).

Terry is probably the worst DNC chairman in recent memory. The ultimate DLCer.

who are all these people rudely bashing other politicians.... for things other than policy... I mean.. there's no such thing as respect as well? Well.. some republic things wont' change I suppose.

L.A. Confidential @ 9:

I'm not hearing any candidates seriously talking about the train wreck known as the U.S. Economy.

Anyone else?

nope, and when are people going to stop thinking in terms of democrat republican. We need to look past the false left/right paradigm and realize that they are 2 heads of the same coin.

Ron Paul is the only candidate on BOTH sides who isnt bought and paid for.
Ron Paul is the only candidate on BOTH sides who will pull our troops out right away.
Ron Paul is the only candidate on BOTH sideswho isnt a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.

Hillary is a bigger warmonger than anyone. Obama wont pull the troops out for 2 years. Look at the Democratic congress. The OBVIOUS mandate in their election was ending the IRAQ war.

I rest my case

L.A. Confidential @ 9:

I'm not hearing any candidates seriously talking about the train wreck known as the U.S. Economy.

Anyone else?

No, but I did hear Obama say that he would redress the tax inequalities by putting the onus on the corporations who have been getting off scottfree and relieving the middle class taxpayers. O.K. by me, and I think much of Edwards speech was about the growing underclass. Both not exactly about Wall Street but about the economy the rest of us find ourselves in.

L.A. Confidential @ 9:

I’m not hearing any candidates seriously talking about the train wreck known as the U.S. Economy.

California Dave:

Anyone else?
Two Words: JOHN EDWARDS

Open your ears!!!!!

Yes I know about John. Trial Lawyer. He does have appeal at many levels, but it’s doubtful he’s going to come out and say. . . . Look people, Bush, Corporations and Wall Street has screwed you. You have a ZERO safety net. You’ve been buying into a lie. A Hallucination. You don’t have JACK SQUAT. Nothing but empty promises backed by worthless bales of traded paper. The whole god damn thing could collapse as easily as it did suddenly one day in 1929. So Wake TF UP!

Not going to happen.

L.A. Confidential:

Do you have a better alternative? No, John Edwards is not going to change the world.....but, compared to all the other candidates, he is a much safer bet, and has a LOT more experience than Obama. I would definitely vote for Obama in the next few years, but not now. John Edwards is my choice hands down. If it comes to Hillary in the primary, I simply won't vote...or I will do a write-in.

john @ 89:

L.A. Confidential @ 9:

I'm not hearing any candidates seriously talking about the train wreck known as the U.S. Economy.

Anyone else?

nope, and when are people going to stop thinking in terms of democrat republican. We need to look past the false left/right paradigm and realize that they are 2 heads of the same coin.

Ron Paul is the only candidate on BOTH sides who isnt bought and paid for.
Ron Paul is the only candidate on BOTH sides who will pull our troops out right away.
Ron Paul is the only candidate on BOTH sideswho isnt a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.

Hillary is a bigger warmonger than anyone. Obama wont pull the troops out for 2 years. Look at the Democratic congress. The OBVIOUS mandate in their election was ending the IRAQ war.

I rest my case

It is obvious that you were deaf in one ear.....And blinded VICTIM of the MEDIA hype and bias.

YOU MIGHT WANT TO INVESTIGATE ........DENNIS KUCINICH.....VOTING RECORDS.

Dennis Kucinich has the HARD CORE character of a PRESIDENT. HE IS THE CHANGE WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR in a long long TIME.

Don't let the MEDIA decide for you who is the "BEST" potential PRESIDENT. YOU DECIDE the Candidate that best SUPPORTS your beliefs and PRINCIPLES.

He was the ONLY ONE that GOT IT RIGHT the first time. His voting records ARE CONSISTENT with his principles and his ACTIONS. He voted against IRAQ WAR. He voted against funding the WAR. He publicly declared that IRAQ WAR was based on lies and for the interest of OIL. He stood up against the lawless Bush Administration and the ONLY one to submit an Article of IMPEACHMENT

She goes on about change, but she has done nothing for change. Hopefully she will drop out and support Edwards.

In a recent interview Bill Clinton expressed grave concern over the effects of global warming citing that yet another large chunk of ice had fallen off his wife

Best joke ever! I started the video clip then saw the Clintons and stopped it immediately. Clinton time is over lady, and as much as I loved life while your husband was in office, get a fucking clue!

oh really @ 19:

Hillary cleverly accentuated her newfound status as an agent of change by surrounding herself with the fresh, new faces of her husband, Madeleine Albright, Wesley Clark, and Terry McAuliffe. Change? Nonsense. She's planning revolution!!!

Ditto that!! It was my first reaction as well. Albright's presence - considering the continuing crisis in Africa - was especially glaring.

Blue Lensman @ 66:

Frank Cocozzelli @ 58:

As for Obama, he is the second coming of an inexperienced administration a la Carter --that's if the GOP noise machine doesn't make his head spin first, and they will.

Administration? I didn't realize Obama had made any appointments.

You missed the point entirely but perhaps I should have been clearer. So let me clarify.

You are correct that Obama has not made any appointments. But if he does survive the firestorm heading his way (Both from the GOP noise machine as well as a mainstream media that will quickly turn on him) and gets elected I believe that like Carter before him, he lacks serious experience as either a member of Congress or as a governor that will hurt him. And eirily like Carter he speaks in platitudes without providing much detail. Having a president two years removed from the Illinois state legislature does not make me too comfortable.

I've seen this movie before and I don't want to relive 1980 in 20012.

FunMe @ 78:

sHillary ... the name says it all.

I see that you buy into Tweety's logic on Hillary.

Her lame attempt at putting a smiling face on her disaster of a campaign was almost as sad as her first comments off the plane today in New Hampshire. "I intend to be the President" for the youth of America too. Little late now bonehead. Obama took that group starting last month. And you couldn't even get WOMEN to follow you. Goodbye!

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Hill needs to start speaking to her crowds and in interviews as if she was talking with much less guarding. Whenever I hear her, I want to like her, but she seems to be speaking at the people rather than with or to them. In a race where she is on the same front page as Britney and K-Fed, we are no longer a country who elects the best option solely on experience. Now the packaging counts. And Hill comes up short here. Badly packaged. Where is the real Hillary Rodham Clinton in that body. When will this one stop speaking to us as if WE...ARE...FOREIGNERS...AND...DO...I...MAKE...Misef...CLEAR?

I also share her view. But we shall see in the upcoming election what happens! I doubt she will conquer.

scoutt @ 39:

wow. you guys have no grace. i'm sick and ashamed of the Hillary trashing. some of you guys are as foul as the republicans towards one of our own. the misogyny and double standards disgust me. have some class and treat the senator with some respect. act like a goddamn liberal.

one of our own? say how many millions of bucks you got?

tyree @ 102:

scoutt @ 39:

wow. you guys have no grace. i'm sick and ashamed of the Hillary trashing. some of you guys are as foul as the republicans towards one of our own. the misogyny and double standards disgust me. have some class and treat the senator with some respect. act like a goddamn liberal.

one of our own? say how many millions of bucks you got?

Haha. Oh boy!

tyree @ 102:

scoutt @ 39:

wow. you guys have no grace. i'm sick and ashamed of the Hillary trashing. some of you guys are as foul as the republicans towards one of our own. the misogyny and double standards disgust me. have some class and treat the senator with some respect. act like a goddamn liberal.

one of our own? say how many millions of bucks you got?

What does her net worth have to do with her qualifications? FDR was a wealthy man and was the best friend the working man ever had in the White House.

In my view, Hillary should drop out so Edwards can win the election. She will scare the republican voters away from Edwards. Please pray for wisdom on Hillary.

Hillary, please back off, so your party can win.

Fantastic. Clinton stands up for the entire party, and still the fecal matter is tossed her way. No matter what she does, the same insults will be wheeled out unimaginatively.

L.A. Confidential @ 9:

I'm not hearing any candidates seriously talking about the train wreck known as the U.S. Economy.

Anyone else?

Nope. They just don't get it.

"CASE" DISMISSED!!

In the Texas primary, I intend to vote for Edwards, but if Hillary's the candidate I'll vote for her.

I heard Ruth Bader Ginsburg may be retiring from the Supreme Court soon, and maybe one other justice. The next president may pick their successor. Do you want Romney or Hucabee given the choice?

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