Late Edition: John Edwards Still Fighting Accusations He's "Angry"
By Logan Murphy Saturday Jan 12, 2008 4:01pmThis morning on CNN's Late Edition, The Beard uses a hit piece by the Washington Post's Dan Balz to show how some people see John Edwards as an angry, partisan and divisive candidate who has angered many Democrats.
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To be honest, I'm happy with all the Democratic candidates we've had to chose from and I'm ecstatic about the huge number of Democrats who have shown up so far to vote this primary season -- but Edwards has gotten the shaft from the media and is not well liked by the wealthy elite who own them, so it's not surprising to see him being attacked for his populist message. There has been a growing chorus of pundits referring to Edwards as a possible "Kingmaker," giving his delegates to Obama at the end of the primary season, but it doesn't appear that's even a consideration for him. Edwards handles the angry accusations exactly the way you'd expect him to:
Edwards:"...What I have said, and I stand by it and I believe it, is there are very well financed, entrenched interests in Washington that stand between America and the progress that needs to be made. And until we have a president who's willing to take those interests on, nothing will change..."
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They let Edwards appear on television? That's a frist!
If John isn't angry, I am. I am madder than hell at what the thugs in the Bush Crime Family have done to my country. I am madder than hell at the damage the GOP has done since their messiah, Ronnie Reagan, declared war on the middle class. I am madder than hell at the Democrats that have allowed it to happen.
Imagine a trial lawyer actually publishing his promises to The People, thereby leaving a paper trail of proof that he is beholden to his word.
That's what a careful lawyer should do.
Here's why the power brokers, corporations, fear him: Corporate elite fear candidate Edwards
Here's his promises and plans, The Plan to Build One America, in writing.
Show me the equivalent fine print from both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. There are a lot of nuts and bolts Hillary/Obama people on this blog; you've been whimpering that phrase forever, it seems.
Edwards is a lawyer, you can't find a more well entrenched organization than that!! The reason nobody is listening to him is because nobody believe a word he says!
The answer is "Of COURSE I'm angry! Anyone who isn't angry hasn't been paying attention to the crimes of this Administration."
I realize Democratic communications consultants get paid a kazillion dollars an hour for this kind of advice, but I'm providing this for free.
wolf makes russert look good.
John @ 4:
And so is Clinton.
And so is Obama.
So...your point...is?...
Wow the MSM must be SO disappointed that Al Sharptpon isn't running when they have to dub Edwards the angriest candidate.
He looks like Pottsy Webber after he lost all that weight, and started to sing bad rock and roll. tunes.
Edwards is a great candidate who has been running a great campaign. You're completely right, Logan. Corporate America can live with Hillary or Obama, but Edwards makes them nervous for real.
Just what the hell is wrong with being angry at a time like this?? Has the media forgotten what the last seven years have been like???
John, be angry and get angrier!!!
We are a nation so accustomed to half-truths and complete lies that no one knows how to respond when someone fearlessly tells his truth a la Edwards. Framing that as random anger is Frank Luntz 101. Seems to force the labelee into fighting back. Rwemember flip-flopper?
Albatross is absolutely right. We're all angry. And with just cause. We've been abused by BushCo. All of us. With the possible exception of Bush intimates and cronies. Crooks and liars, the whole lot of them. Wow! That'd be a great name for a blog!!
r-e-m-e-m-b-e-r (sigh)
ANYONE WHO IS NOT ANGRY IS EITHER COMATOSE OR BOUGHT & PAID FOR
John Edwards is saying exactly what we all know. Corporations are setting up a new fedualism and are getting rid of the democracies of the world. They tried before in the 30-40's and will try again, this time, by subtrefuge as opposed to the hammer.
ysbaddaden @ 8:
Potsy would be a step up from George W. Bush. At least he isn't a sociopath.
- Tom
John @ 4:
Yes I can find a more entrenched organization --- trolls!
And you are the guy who thinks newt is AOK. Doofus.
John Edwards scares you, doesn't he?
I know it's been said many times before, but if you're not angry, you're not paying attention. I don't think John Edwards is inordinately angry. It seems the ploy is to point to him as too angry--angry to the point it doesn't make any sense. So far, I've seen no candidate that matches my anger. Edwards is my candidate and, even though he doesn't match my anger yet, I know that if he comes across as "too angry", he will turn a lot of voters off.
Edwards is fated, it seems, to appear in the media only when it can be twisted to support the hatchet job they have already decided on. It's apparent that over the last decade or so the mass media is MAKING the story rather than merely reporting it. The power of the MSM to do this needs to be constrained immediately, starting with bringing back the Fairness Doctrine.
Yeah, maybe he has gotten the shaft from the media, but Edwards is a little bitch. He's like Obamas little brother, every time the Obama campaign makes a statement against the Clinton campaign, Edwards pops up like "Mini-Me" saying "yeah!". Like what's going on now, Obama accuses Clinton at making some remarks that downplay the contributions of Dr. Martin Luther King, spinning the crap out of her remarks of course. So out of nowhere comes Edwards to jump in take his own limp wristed shot at Hillary.
I hated Regan, but remember his rhetoric about sticking together as a party? Yeah - this is a campaign, and this kinda stuff happens, but I hope they don't take it too far. The last thing the democrats need is more division.
His campaign has not taken any money from corporate interests. Everyone talks a great talk, but this man is walking it. All campaigns should be run this way. A corporation is a pathological citizen, like a felon, and so should not be allowed to vote or influence voting. Corporate interests have gotten us into wars, increased police brutality, stopped U.S. participation in slowing global warming, etcetera.
TomR @ 15:
I plan on nominating Potsy, but the Texas Primary isn't until April, and it'll probably already be a done deal.
Two T's nor not two T's...?
Wolf really needs to take a "dump".
John @ 4:
And the ACLU is also comprised of lawyers. Hmm, non-lawyers wanting to be president: Bush, Reagan...
John @ 4:
So, you're saying that all lawyers are bad? If so, you are truly stupid, probably a Barack Obama supporter ( a man who is also a lawyer but had to go into politics to have a career).
What the heck did Balz base his assessment of Edwards' campaign on?!
living_abomination @ 19:
Wow, Ann Coultier is posting on C&L?
Take the homophobic trash elsewhere.
ysbaddaden @ 8:
I like you ysbaddaden. Please tell me you're not likening Edwards to Potsy Weber. Gag. I can't stand the fact that some say Edwards reminds them of John Ritter but Potsy is even worse.
How does the Beard quote Dan Balz from the Washington Post (a newspaper that even Tweety considers a Neocon newspaper).
And look at the excerpt the Beard quotes:
Dan Balz offers NO SOURCE for his claim that Edwards has offended Democrats. And how could a Republican like Dan Balz know what an average Democrat thinks. Yet the Beard just regurgitates the Neocon meme. This is lunacy!
For a journalist, the Beard makes a paperweight.
Moose @ 28:
I'd say he's more like the journalistic equivilent of a fan blowing the GOP sh!t in our faces. That's just me though.
Edwards isn't just fighting Bush and Cheney and their disastrous administration. He is fighting the corporatocracy that has taken over OUR government and they are bringing out everything they have against him. They will lie, cheat and steal to keep him from getting anywhere close to the presidency. They have Hillary and Obama squarely in their pockets and they know that nothing will change if either of those get the office. Edwards is a real threat to the status quo. He doesn't owe the corporatists anything and he knows that THEY are the root of everything that has driven this country to the brink of disaster.
Corporations are behind the war in Iraq. They are behind the push to get a war in Iran.
Corporations are behind the rising health care costs that cut a great many Americans out of the health system.
Corporations are behind the massive tax cuts that this administration and the republican congress passed through.
Corporations are behind the multi BILLION dollar subprime loan disaster that is sending this country spiraling down into a recession.
Corporations are behind the bending and breaking of rules and laws that would have kept lenders from making such ridiculous loans.
Corporations are behind the pollution that is killing this planet.
They have the largest voice in our government and until we get them out, NOTHING will change!!!! Hillary and Obama don't have the moral authority to challenge the corporations and entire industries that have bought their loyalty. Edwards does. But he is fighting the biggest fight of his life against the corruption and criminality that has taken over OUR government.
He will probably lose, because most Americans are too worried about what Chris Matthews said about Hillary than they are about what corporations have done to the structure of our government. Most Americans care more about what is on the boob tube than they are about fixing what is really wrong with this country. George Bush and Dick Cheney are only symptoms. The real disease is the cancerous growth of corporate interests in OUR government.
living_abomination @ 19:
Excuse me? Hill and Barack pick up on John's talking points. You haven't been looking at any facts, have you?
hope @ 27:
Oops.
Didn't sound angry to me.
John @ 4:
speak for yourself....you must be one of the entrenched?
So, let's see, a hit job on Hillary Clinton by Russert, a hit job on Edwards by Blitzer, and Newt Gingrich allowed to present himself as some sort of guru, versus a toxic hack who should have been shamed from public life long ago. Long live our liberal media!
An Amen to everyone who said they're angry too.
Batocchio @ 36:
Newt Gingrich presented as a guru. I think I'll just die now.
foolme1ns @ 30:
Thank you! I'm not a big time Edwards fan but he's saying what we all know be the truth. It appears some on the left are more excited by status quo Hillary or "change" Obama which baffles me as over the years we've all been ranting on these message boards about how the corporations are ruining our country, how the Democratic congress isn't fighting hard enough for us and yet when a candidate actually talks about issues we care about so few seem to support him. It's like all the folks who claimed they were all for Dodd after he stood up for us on Telecom Amnesty but promptly droppedd him like a hot potato as soon as the press cycle moved on. It's wishy-washy support like this that is why Kucinich is "unelectable" and why Edwards is still a second tier candidate.
Obama and Hillary are both a lot better than our current situation, but that's not much of a compliment. I'll support hem over any of the sadists running on the opposing ticket but I really hope the left will step up and put their vote where their mouth is.
kaT @ 24:
Cheap shot. This is about Edwards. Please be civil.
I wouldn't know whether edwards was angry or not since the media doesn't really cover him.
Lollimom @ 3:
they cant show you one , thiers no real prommises from the repigs clinton and obama! it blows you mind to listen to folks whove been bitching for seven yrs about the pricks in washington sucking off the corporations then they are so hard pressed in thier thinking as to who they should support, my my such hard choices !should i go with the lady who craps out the corporation money shes been eating all dureing her terms in office or must i vote for another corporation hack barack obama , my such hard desishions , say heres an idea stop your bitching about politicians takeing lobby money and vote for kucinich or edwards ,
Stupid Git @ 39:
Great post.
RobertD @ 40:
If you can't take the heat.........
John @ 4:
well he got rich off of people at trials believeing what he says!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lollimom @ 7:
at the top of his head!
vrk @ 41:
He's a cipher--haven't they convinced you of that yet? Actually, it should be very impressive that he's getting as many votes as he does considering the MSM is trying to convince us that he doesn't exist.
The beltway bumpkins all repeat Scaifetardisms and it becomes the gospel
Jo @ 16:
Yea because he wants Socialism, which is bad of course, unless your one of the lazy ones who complain about the rich...
Do the math: Edwards is to Hillary as Hillary is to Bush
Edwards X Bush = Hillary squared
Square root (Edwards x Bush) = Hillary
Proof that Hillary is part Bush, part Edwards, the bigger part being that of Bush.
Or as other commenters have written, Bush Lite. ***puts on metal army helmet to protect against objects thrown by HRC supporters***
one of the true problems with edward's campaign is those of us who say we are as angry as edwards, is we don't get out to the public other than these blogs and voice our anger. we need to show up at the voting polls for super tuesday and VOTE FOR EDWARDS. if you want a candidate to win, then show real support and VOTE.
To be honest, I’m happy with all the Democratic candidates we’ve had to chose from...
really?
I don't see one.
chris @ 49:
So all poor and middle class folks are lazy? By they way, have you ever traveled through the Scandinavian countries? Ever been to Europe at all? Ever read about how their standards of living are leaps and bounds over ours? Ever looked deeper than surface level sound bites?
I'm not arguing there are lazy leeches on society out there but since when has government ever been about punishing the few at the expense of the many?
Jo @ 44:
Actually, I'm an Edwards supporter, too. It doesn't have anything to do with "taking the heat." (I've been reprimanded a time or two for letting my ire get the better of me.) It just seems to me that we all want to accomplish the same thing--better government. Insulting Obama supporters--when, in fact, they have nothing to do with this thread or Wolf Blitzer's lame-ass recitation of unsubstantiated attacks on Edwards--is just flaming. Worse, it pits us against each other. Seems counter-productive.
Every goddamed day somebody gets hurt by a corporation. Thousands of sombodies. John Edwards has fought the corporations for the benefit of some of these sombodies. He has taken them on and won.
If some corporation kills people by putting poison in drinking water, or sells a product that hurts, maims, or kills somebody, don't you think it is a good idea that justice be served and that the corporation pay for what they did? Or, do you, like so many rich elitists, believe it's just bad luck that someone's kid was killed by a defective product or that a worker was killed because of lax safety rules, or that some drunken doctor cut off the wrong leg of a patient.
Wouldn't you want someone with the ability to take head on the corporations that are causing so much death and misery to so many people? I know I would.
I don't trust anyone who takes corporate money to do justice when the time comes.
I trust John Edwards. He has the heart and strength to fight. And he owes nothing to corporate fat cats.
Given the chance, he will fight for all of us.
chris @ 49:
Please, divulge to us how this squares in your mind--all of your repug or libertarian politicians are more than happy to take advantage of the socialized medicine provided to them yet, all the while they're doing this, they say anything socialist should make us all very afraid.
Plus, the financial institutions just brought the economy to a screeching halt because of their GREED. And so, just double checking here, why should we not be complaining about the rich?
I'm sorry but, we've had a war based on lies, CIA agents' identities reveal for political gain, US attorneys fired for political gain, war profiteering on a scale that is absolutely mindboggling literally stealing out of the pockets of every average American, an entire city drowned, the loss of utter basics like habeus corpus, all 300 million Americans being spied on as though they're living under the East German Stazi, not American freedom, voices of dissent silenced, whistleblowers silenced for trying to protect the American people, science decimated, education decimated, we have a corporate media that refuses to report the news, crony capitalism gone wild to the point of the cancer stage, where it begins to eat the host (US), we're last in health care of all the industrialized nations, and my question is....
Why AREN'T you angry?
For chrissake, why aren't we surrounding the White House with pitchforks and torches? How many times do you have to be raped by this criminal neocon movement before you stand up and resist?
Edwards is willing to fight to protect us, the damn least I can do is vote for the man, and get his BACK.
As odd as it may seem, the pasty white guy from the South may actually be the ANSWER, not the problem this time!
the french solved their problem with the rich elitists, it's called the french revolution.
the time is at hand to do the same in this country, but it will not be as easy a solution
as the french used. too bad. we could use a quick fix.
5by5 at 57
My sentiments. Don't know old you are (I was born in 1945), but I think the largest cohort of those carrying the torches and pitchforks should be those 24 years of age and younger. They are the ones who, IMO, really stand to be screwed by Bush policies.
I've got that bumper sticker on my car.
It reads, "If you're not OUTRAGED, you're not paying attention". I constantly see folks in the rearview mirror shaking their heads up and down after reading it.
Anger is justified. Edwards is the real deal. Don't let pundits and yapping beards make your choice.
Come on Crooks and Liars get on the Edward's bandwagon. Give him some more respectable press not just these angry bull**** stories. This guy is the best candidate out there. He is the true progressive. He ha come out with workable solutions to healthcare and foreign policy. Please please give him a voice. The MSM certainly isn't. God I'd love for him to pull out a win soon to slap everyone awake.
Of the three top Democratic Party presidential candidates, John Edwards is the only one I feel that would enter the White House and immediately begin holding the outgoing Bush administration ACCOUNTABLE for all the crimes its committed.
The impression I get from the Obama and Clinton campaigns is that they'd do what Joe Lieberman has been doing since early last year as chair of a Senate oversight committee...NOTHING...and let Bush and Cheney slink out of the White House without having all their crimes investigated and exposed.
And it doesn't matter to me how many corrupt Republican cronies that Bush pardons before leaving. His entire administration, going back to 2001 and even before, should be investigated top to bottom, with it being the constitutional duty of the next president to do a thorough and comprehensive probe into everything done by the most corrupt administration in American history.
The next president needs to establish a Presidential Commission (like the 9/11 Commissioin) to investigate all the crimes committed by the outgoing Bush/Cheney administration. And/or the next president should turn loose the Justice Department and some special prosecutors to dig up all the un-American dirt on Bush/Cheney.
I believe a President John Edwards would be more than willing to do these things, while an Obama or Clinton in the White House would try to sweep under the carpet all the crimes committed by BushCo ("let's put the past behind us and look to the future" being their slogan), probably even keeping BushCo-appointed Mukasey as Attorney General.
I smell a cover-up occurring in 2009 if Obama or Clinton get the presidential nod. They'll let Bush and Cheney skate. Obama because he's Joe Lieberman-lite. Clinton because she'll not want to face the relentless charges that she's paying back the culture of corruption Republicans for their relentless (and deceitful) attacks against her husband Bill back during the 1990s when he was president.
From what I can tell, John Edwards doesn't have this "baggage" so he can go after the BushCo criminals tooth and nail...so We The People can finally get a full accounting.
M Padras @ 61:
I second that!
In a larger sense, the "anger" thing is yet another false construct by the corporate media to distract people from THINKING about the CONTENT of what Edwards' message is. They want us to talk about his emotions, because as long as we're doing that, we're not THINKING about what he's saying.
Heaven forbid we should discuss the issues themselves, and begin to confront the disproportionate representation given to corporations.
This country was founded because people were pissed about "taxation without representation", but honey, that's what we've got RIGHT NOW!
The mega corps make more than the gross national product of many of the NATIONS of the world, yet 61% of corporations pay NO TAX, yet get any legislation they want (no matter how much it harms the American people) passed into law thanks to their army of lobbyists on the hill.
Meanwhile Joe Bob down the street trying to support his family while both him AND his wife work two jobs each can barely make ends meet, and are paying out the ASS in taxes of all kinds most of them regressive taxes, and Washington doesn't give a flying fuck what he wants because his campaign contribution can't buy the candidate a sandwich, much less a TV ad.
Yet Edwards wants to represent the average American, not the mega corp.
That's why I'm backing him.
M Padras @ 61:
i agree with you, but
hey! everyone if you want edwards to win don't ask someone else to do all the work, it's up to you to GET OUT THERE AND GIVE VOICE TO YOUR ANGER.
remember the movie from the 80's
"I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!"
well, get that mad and talk with eveyone you know, this will win an election for Edwards and all of us.
M Padras @ 61:
What about a web interview carried by C&L and FDL, in conjunction with a fund-raiser--say, with a goal of so-many thousand dollars in a 24-hour period--try to break the amount that Paul collected on the web. Then the press would at least have to pay attention to him for *that*.
Glenn Greenwald said it best... candidates who attack the corruption of our system by corporate interests are going to get bashed by the pundits and ignored by the news organizations of denigrated at best. The pundits are after all on the payroll!
Edwards has been a strong critic of corporate media consolidation like we've seen in the case of FAUX News Network, but others as well. They like their influence and power and cursed be the man or woman who challenges them.
Take of example the latest CNN Presidential Poll, where they have given him the Ron Paul treatment and not included Edwards in it:
Latest CNN Poll on Presidential Candidates
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2008/images/01/12/rel1b.b.pdf
This is pretty odd since in their last poll of this sort, Edwards beat every GOP candidate by the widest margin of any in the Democratic field:
CNN poll: Edwards DESTROYS GOP candidates (with graphs!)
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/12/13/85010/160/512/421537
But the most troubling fact is that Edwards is not that far behind in the delegate count and is even running stronger than candidates like McCain and Huckabee on the GOP side. Why would they bother to include Guliani, or McCain or Huckabee by their standard?:
Current Delegate count:
Obama 25
Clinton 24
Edwards 19
Kucinich 0
Romney 21
Huckabee 14
McCain 12
Thompson 8
Paul 4
Hunter 1
Giullani 1
http://mydd.com/
Now if that doesn't tell you something about how the corporate MSM is trying to manipulate this election as we saw in the NH primary... you are either brain dead or you are smokin' something that maybe you should think about giving up!
Wait--Leslie Blitzer is whoring GOP talking points? It must be a day ending in "y."
VietVet8666 @ 59:
Hey man, I'm about 20 years younger than you are, but I'm just saying it's like that Lewis Black joke when he talks about these greedy corporate fucks at companies like Enron, Worldcom, Halliburton, etc., and he goes, "You know, I never really understood the French before, but now looking at these corporate suits and their ridiculous golden parachutes, I get it! I get why they were so in love with the damn guillotine!"
Enough of this "let them eat cake" shit from the neocons. Enough of them.
It's time for regular Americans to get a REAL voice in the process, and TRUE representation from those in D.C. Really, that's not even remotely too much to ask. Indeed, its the bare minimum we should DEMAND.
And please, Edward's has done the honorable thing by not taking money from lobbyists or Pacs. Isn't this what we have been waiting for? Don't make his stand on campaign finance fade away. Give him a fighting chance and DONATE to his campaign. Even if all you can spare is a dollar please do it and send a message to the lobbyists that the days of buying candidates are over.
there's a lot of angry people posting in this forum. hell, I'm one of them.
maybe Wolf should run a CNN Poll "How many of you are angry with the current state of politics, economics and the current system of rewards that corporations are enjoying?" - he might be surprised.
Blitzer - you're really just a wimpy wanker - but even a wimpy wanker can be a repiglican tool - as you prove here.
I'm sorry for your sake that you don't have any personal integrity, you POS. Life must suck when you can't respect yourself.
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RobertD @ 66:
Love the idea. Come on C&L lets do this.
Rasputin @ 67:
Brilliant post. Email it to everyone.
Go John go! John should respond that many more people agree that this country is being rent apart by class than believe the insider corrosive hackmanship from a Washington Post insider. Dipshit.
M Padras @ 73:
ill donate if they do,
Thanks, Blitzer! My negative remarks at the MSM worked.
We have to give equal opportunities to all three candidates. Why regret after the election? Edwards voice must be heard, this is democracy and not one party system.
You'd think that candidates would be okay with appearing 'angry', would you not?
I can't imagine that NH went to Hillary as I had predicted. We can smell these rats from afar off. Lawerence O'Donell's post on Huff Post is a testimony of how the American people responded in favor of Edwards.
Come on, folks, be sincere in counting the votes during the primary. There is no doubt that Edwards is popular with the middle class and the downtrodden.
Thanks John. You are too good for the Elitests in the Democratic Party. Whenever we have a great candidate like Edwards, what does the Democratic Party do, kick them to the curb. Just like Paul Hacket, just like Howard Dean. It's time for the go along to get along Democrats to get out the Party. They are messing it up for everyone. Vote for Edwards in the Primary. He is the only one the Do Nothings in the Congress and Senate are really afraid of! In the 2004 Election, the progressives in the Democratic Party persecuted Edwards and Kerry for not attacking back the Swiftboat Ads. Now he's taking a stand and what do you do? You complain that he's being too agressive and angry. I don't know what you Democrats want anymore. It will serve you all right when you get what you deserve Hillary and Obama! I'm totally disgusted with the Democratic Party!
John Edwards hasn't taken any money from Corporate America. How do the Progressives thank him for that. They support Hillary and Obama. Wow, that's saying a lot for our Party!!!
No.20 fuddled, even McCain is a hypocrite. After he lost in 2000 to Bush, he marched ahead and imposed campaign finance reform just to get even with Bush Co.
Does McCain follow his own rules?
Since John Edwards is considered an angry fighter, why is he the one many people appear to want to "take a dive", so that Obama can make his bid for the presidency easier? Where is the faith everyone has that Obama is the real choice of the people? He needs to fight for it just like Edwards and Clinton. He most surely is not my first choice and, if this kind of thing, continues, he will not even be my second choice. I think we will have to write Edwards' name in on the ballot and not worry if it splits the vote, because we have a right to make our choice and not have the television pundits decide whom it must be. There ought to be some way to stop CNN, MSNBC, NBC, etc.; just who gave them the right to make these decisions for us????
It would be smart if everyone starts answering pollsters by saying "let's wait for the votes to be counted"; we are sick and tired of what you people attempt to do with these polls. Enough is enough, get out of our elections, and let us elect our representatives and president.
Some people with money really need to have some pity on the people of America, get together and start a new independent cable channel, hire some real journalists, the caliber of Moyer (or Molly Ivins), or even Keith Olberman, though he can sometimes disappoint. Help someone! Can't you hear us screaming "enough is enough"? America is holding on by a thread, but I truly believe it can still make it.
The elites in the Dem party are no better than, no different from, the Repubs. They feed at the same trough, side by side.
This country needs a third party.
Goddamn it, I want an "angry" SOB up there.
Hell, I'm angry,...As the graffiti sez.
VietVet8666 @ 84:
Ever once in a while someone trots this quote out. And the solution will come about when? Whine and do nothing or help push the country in a direction where a 3rd party candidate has a chance of getting elected. Vote and get behind a man with vision and real progressive answers like Edwards and maybe this country might get behind a 3rd party candidate.
5by5 @ 64:
-And naturally when you are "angry" you are being irrational and reactionary.
They pulled the same stunt with Howard Dean.
Edwards needs to quit so that Obama can beat Hilary. He is going to cost Obama the nomination. Maybe he can cut a deal with Obama and they can be runnng mates?
If Edwards is angry, to paraphrase the bumper sticker, maybe it's because he's been paying attention.
Sany @ 81:
I think it says more about the power of the media, but there is definitely a war on inside of the Democratic party for its soul... Howard Dean was an outsider too!
The beltway insiders in the party never forgave Dean for being a outsider and changing the dynamic of fund raising across the net.
The party insiders saw Dean as a threat to the way they peddle their influence for cash and suddenly Dean turned that upside down by his success and they were only too happy to join with the GOP in assassinating his run for office over the scream nonsense.
They feared that he would do it again and so they sought to end his political career with his current appointment in exchange for his promise not to run again.
He turned the tables on them again though and instead of staying inside the beltway and sucking up to the lobbyist, he toured the country and began building his 50 state organization.
If you recall Carville and the rest took him to task for not spending enough time in Washington. After his success with that organization in the last election, Hillary and the DLCers rolled out Carville and Begala as their attack dogs to go after him and claim that it was really Ole Rahm who was responsible for the stunning success... BS!
Edwards is the only candidate who has consistently focused on the fundamental flaws of the system and its corruption, the 8000 lbs. gorilla in the room, and they hate him for it.
The pundits like Wolfie, Tweety and Timmy are part of the machine and they have always been contemptuous towards Edwards... they're paid to be!
I don't know Txinday @83. I'm beginning to think there is no saving this country. In the last election (2004), I said I would give it one more try. Then when the MSM started with this Hillary and Obama crap a year ago, I said to myself, it's just the media, it will all go away. But instead of it going away, they have increased the distraction to the point where our elections are a SHAM right now. At this point, I don't think it will even matter anymore. No one can trust the way the votes are being counted, or the voting machines, or the way the MSM is twisting things to make the electorate believe they should pick our candidates. No one bothered to IMPEACH Bush/Cheney, so explain to me how we can, as OBAMA says, MOVE Forward, when we haven't even addressed VERY SERIOUS issues. This whole Primary Election scam is just one huge distraction to take the Heat off Bush and Cheney! Edwards just brings about into focus what is wrong with the whole electoral process.
Jeff @ 88:
Jeff, Jeff, Jeff. Geez.
Jeff @ 88:
and maby obama might quit so another corporate whores out of the running!
The dishonor the Bush/Cheney crowd has brought onto this country, the pissing on the graves of the Founding Fathers, the spying, corruption and lies in and around this war in which tens of thousands of innocents, and thousands of Americans have died have outraged me. I am generally against the death penalty, but if they convicted Cheney of war crimes and sentenced him to the gallows, I believe I could pull the lever. Bush, I don't know. He's so stupid, a dry drunk, coke head, spoiled frat boy, that I think he could get off with an insanity plea. Any person who is true to those noble impulses and positive accomplishments of this country cannot be but angry and demand accountability. Edwards angry? Count me in.
Stupid Git @ 26:
Haha - you know, that's actually not how i meant it, but now that you say that, you're right - that's what it means. I was using it to mean he's a wuss, but you're right and I apologize.
As for Obama and Clinton picking up on Edwards talking points, that's crap and you know it. Edwards isn't getting the nomination, although he is a great candidate. Now don't sit there and accuse me of not having "facts" - even though i gave you one, because when it all comes down to it all 3 - Obama, Edwards, and Clinton are all politicians that are in this for them, and anyone who believes otherwise is bought and sold.
I'm telling you right now - what's going to ruin this election for the Democrats is all this infighting. That's exactly what the Republicans want, which is why they are targeting Clinton. They know damn well that if they knock her out the rest of the party will be too divided and hung up in their own naivety to pull off a win. Think I'm wrong? Look at all the people on the various liberal sites posting "I will never vote for , if doesn't get the nomination then I'm not voting."
Last, I'm with you - this administration is gutting this country, the right wing and corporations that own it are disassembling everything this country stands for, so some of you need to stop jumping all over other liberals/democrats who don't follow your favorite candidate as if they are your political enemy. Unless they stupidly use a homophobic phrase the wrong way like my dumbass did.
What you call infighting I call electing the best person for the job, not who you're told to vote for.
Dialogue is essential for a democracy to work. Not everybody is going to agree all the time.
If you're not angry, you haven't been paying attention.
Your damn right Wolf !John Edwards is angry. And so are all the American people, for what you have supported by this illelegal corrupt Bush/Cheney Administration. Yea, you're right we're angry. And you know what Wolf. We're not going to take your MSM bullcrap anymore!
living_abomination @ 95:
Excellent mea culpa, but you have me confused. I agree that that the corporate right is gutting the country, however, HRC is also, by far, the favorite candidate of the corporate right - they're giving more money to her, by far, than to any Republican. If Hillary wins the nomination, the corporate right will have already won.
see the rage in his eyes?
living_abomination @ 95:
living_abomination @ 19:
abomination - obviously your lobotomy must have been performed by Dr Frist, and the results are as all else he's ever touched. You are not much among the 'living' even you think so. Or, you cannot process the info. It's on videos that Hill said LBJ WAS da' man.
Read Edwards's "PLAN for One America" before you rant again.
As to your sticking together idea, it goes several ways. In most Euro languages there is a fantastic unparliamentary proverb: 'lets stick together' - said diarrhea to the toilett tissue. "When we look bigger, nobody will touch such a crap".
John Edwards is a gentleman and a class act, and he wouldn't bother fistfights with a Hill-shill. Please, have your thyroid checked to bring some juice to your upper regions - MRI could show what is (or not) present there. Untill that happens STOP the LIES.
Poor little Hill can make her own shill.
Wolfster is another one who conveniently did not check the rollcall page, an OFFICIAL record of K Street support - last week Hillary and Obama picked a few more LOBBYISTS. John Edwards still with ZERO lobbyists listed in his corner.
We do not need, cannot afford!, yet another product of the corpocracy in the White House. It does not matter that Clinton is listed as a Democrat and a woman, or Obama a black Elvis - both ARE republican-lite. The fact is she gets most of her campaign money from large corporations, as does Obama, so they both are beholden to them.
Even David Marchick (Carlyle Group) is Hillary's official supporter.
Hillary was given more by the corpos than any republican candidate as well.
See K Street Endorsements as of Jan 13, 2008
http://www.rollcall.com/politics/kstendorsements.html
Clinton 61
Obama 18
EDWARDS 0
Corpo-whoring didn't start w/BushCo, but went through the roof within the last few years. It is a sign of fascism taking a hold. Same was in 1933 Germany.
Hillary Clinton is, right now, almost identical to George Bush and LIEberman in all her positions
Her record:
Bimbo Control seems to be her best qualification, but please do read on.
Senator Clinton voted FOR the Iraq War Resolution.
Senator Clinton said little or nothing during this summer's vote on the Iraq War Supplemental.
Senator Clinton voted FOR the US PATRIOT act.
Senator Clinton voted FOR the Kyl/Lieberman amendment.
Senator Clinton has said little or nothing during the current debate on Telecom Immunity
Senator Clinton voted FOR cloture on the nomination of John Roberts, clearing the way for his confirmation as Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court.
Senator Clinton has said little or nothing on the possible impeachment of George Bush
Senator Clinton campaigned for Joe LIEberman against Ned Lamont
She can list only ONE elected position on her resume, position fixed by the dems party in NYS - her NYS office is the most arrogant and unresponsive (I am in NYC), worse than the infamous repig D'Amato's was.
He was called Senator Pothole. I, with some other fedup NYorkers' personally delivered crates of/pelted his office with tomatoes: "Tomato for D'Amato". It was on TeeVee all over, a proof. He was totally corrupt, never voted for any war though.
Senator Clinton NEVER ran ANYTHING !! Not even a kindergarten. She was put in charge of the 'healthcare' by her philandering husband, and she screwed it.
Her current health insurace (NOT health care !!) 'plan' would MANDATE every US citizen into PAYOLA for her major co-owners, the insurance industry. If you refuse to participate, even you cannot afford it, welcome to Halliburton Hospitality centers out west. Nippy environment will keep you alert, although too late !
Hillary and Bill Clinton’s previous Co-Presidential successes
The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates
Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
Most number of witnesses to die suddenly *
First president sued for sexual harassment
First president accused of rape
First, First Lady to come under criminal investigation
Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
First president to establish a legal defense fund
First president to be held in contempt of Court
Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
He /they?/ sold us to corpos through the NAFTA.
* I was working w/the UN Peacekeeping/logistics, when Ron Brown was snuffed out in Dubrovnik predictable catastrophy, the so-called accident
That’s the REAL record, listed in many web locations, and off, and in many months I have not seen one denial of any one of the above. If no one had said the above were done by the Clintons, I'd have thought I was reading George Bush's record.
The current median USA family income based on 1960 level, adjusted for inflation, should be $ 71,000. It is $ 43,000.
Dollar is at HALF of its value compared to when GWB took over - corpos are whining sky-high. Since they paid off both Hill and Obama, WHO will have to "sacrifice" for payola if any of them takes the WH ? YOU and ME !!!
Pushing for Hill or Obama's nomination , dems are doing again what they do the best: screw up, and open the WH to McInsane..
SO, as we have some chance to have a decent representation w/Edwards in the WH, what any other alternative is for us, the people? WHO will be a collective sacrificial lamb ?? YOU and ME !!!
Bush-lite corpo-sellouts like Hillary and/or Obama instead of a FDR/New Deal candidate = Edwards, will get us even faster into abyss.
Whoever counts on Edwards supporters to join Obama's, if Edwards is screwed really hard by his own party in addition to MSMs, etc, is going to be for a harsh awakening: most will STAY HOME they say, if Edwards is not nominated. So will I.
While Independents/repigs fedup w/BushCo, who would vote for Edwards will vote for any repig instead, I will never join the corpowhores/special interest (AIPAC) club, regardless what tune is being played.
It would be a treason against my Country and Constitution. The allegiance is never to the PARTY or PERSON !!!
Electorate deserves what it gets in November 2008.
fiver @ 99:
(Yeah, that was a pretty stupid thing to say - in fact i think i'll shoot his campaign a few dollars, i'll call it an "I'm a dumbass fine") I don't think Hillary is the corporate candidate that most people make her out to be, for a few reasons. Corporations give money to leading candidates, and up until recently most people picked her as the candidate to beat - corporations are only loyal to themselves, so whoever is in charge or whoever they think is going to be in charge, is going to get money. The way it has been going, Republicans have tripped, so they are attempting to plan ahead, and try to get some ass kissing in early. Kind of like how Enron used to give money to democrats too - it's just that they weren't good friends with the dems like "Kenny boy" was with Bush. The other thing is watch the big defenders of the corporate culture, the ones who try to convince us that the oil company CEOs deserve 400 million dollar retirements - Limbaugh, Hannity, Malkin, Beck, etc. They are OWNED by corporations, and I guarantee that if Hillary was the corporate favorite she is made out to be, they wouldn't be allowed to throw their crap at her all day like they do. It's not like they defend Bush all day because they like him, it's because it's their job. Well, that and they have no morals, intelligence, or souls, and because Limbaugh is probably STILL high from all those pills, but you know what i mean = )
Edwards was the first to take a stand against the FOX News Debates and protested that disgusting network by saying he would not participate. Then Hillary and Obama followed suit. Now who takes a stand on the issues? Edwards does. Hillary and Obama just STEAL his thunder!
@CappuccettoRosso
I stopped reading at "Bimbo Control" - that's ridiculous, and just more unfounded crap flinging. I won't even get into that whole spiel of Bills presidency, because just by glancing at it, it seems you copied it right from Limbaugh or the hacks at "Little Green Footballs".
M Padras @ 70:
Yep, that's just what I'm doing. If Edwards fights to the finish, then so shall I. I'm heading to Nevada on the 17th to canvas. I've never done this before. But then again I've never felt so much was at stake.
If Obama or Clinton win, then we are just replacing a Corporate Republican with a Corporate Democrat. Why can't people see this? Maybe most Americans just don't care.
If not now, when will someone who represents all of America truly fight to break up these monopolies and powerful MNC's? After the NEXT Great Depression? That's where we are heading. What a truly sad state of affairs for America and the world at large.
if Edwards doesn't win the presidency,
could someone please make him the attorney general?
just a thought
C Cooper @ 107:
Obama would be better at it. He taught Constitutional Law for ten years.
He didn't look angry to me. The MSM better watch out, their memes look pretty silly when they let the target dispel them on national television.
John Edwards: Political prisoner of the corporate media.
FREE JOHN EDWARDS!
102 - Thanks for saying all of that so I don't have to. We need to start doing all we can to make sure that Edwards is the candidate rather than the corporate candidates Hillary and Obama.
Edwards 08
We the people have to enforce tough rules on the MSM. They have been used by the big corporates to destroy the dreams of the American people. Shame on you, MSM, I thought journalists were looking after the interest of the people, but you have joined the big mafia.
I will use my bumper sticker on my car, "VOTE EDWARDS" LOL.
Or print out flyers and send it out.
102, I have copied and pasted in my folder the criminal record of HillBill. They are a disgrace and I just can't imagine why Lieberman gang loves them both.
Sheesh, Lieberman, get converted.
living_abomination @ 105:
Facts ARE facts. It's your choice to face them or not. No disease can be ever fought w/out proper diagnosis. It's half of the cure. Keep in mind how cancer earlier detection saves lives and suffering.
Think a little before you call anybody "little bitch", as you did call Edwards. Not all are your level.
I only know Limpballs, Senor Falafel, etc, outbursts from C&L, DailyKos, and other blogs - and I couldn't care less. Discuss the FACTS and ISSUES. Maybe we wouldn't have NAFTA destroying our nation if the focus were on the URGENT matters of the nation, w/NAFTA opening/securing the way for BushCo fascist excesses and crimes.
To ALL:
I am waiting for communication from Edwards campaign (they told me it will be tonight/tomorrow) to continue phonebanking for Edwards in South Carolina, then New York/ NJersey. Thanks to the guys up the thread who help w/Nevada.
Once I have smthg more tangible will be posting here again, as I did for New Hamster.
Go to http://www.johnedwards.com/ , contribute of you can, and SIGN UP to volunteer ! The campaign helps w/transportation/lodgings/ logistics to the consecutive States.
You can do the phonebanking from your HOME, anytime, anywhere you have access to the computer. Sign up to be validated and notified of the news.
Too much is at stake to NOT do it !!
#106-Well said!!! Picking Obama or Hillary would just be replacing Corporate Republicans with Corporate Democrats! What's even worse, the MSM has hedged their bets well. If Hillary wins, it's a win for the Corporate Media. If Obama wins, its a win for the Corporate Media! If any of the Republicans win, still a win for the Corporate Media. Anyway you slice, they've covered their bases well. And they think you and I are too stupid to figure this out. What a Sham! YOU SUCK MSM!!!
RobertD @ 43:
It deserves to be repeated...again and again.
You people will get the establishment candidates picked for you by your betters and you WILL like them!
Whatcha think this is, a democracy or some such crap?
CappuccettoRosso @ 113:
So what is wrong with anger? We should all be angry that are jobs are sent overseas and that corporate CEO's make in one day what most workers make in a year! Hope doesn't create change, actions and passion do! Obama speeches are hollw and Hillary wants the presidency way too badly! If Americans don't wake up by super Tuesday and decide for themselves rather than letting the MSM tell them who should win, we will all continue to be paddling up the proverbial river without a paddle. Vote for Edwards!
Stupid Git @ 29:
Perfect analogy, I'd say.
living abomination
Tell it to Hillary Clinton. Besides, parties don't stick together during campaigns when all of them want to win.
burnt @ 71:
I'd like to see a poll like that, too. I've been angry since the invasion of Iraq, and now my outrage level is so high that all I feel is abused and disgusted by politics. Contemptuous of Bush and the Democrats who've supported him. Angry at people who rah-rah about the Democratic presidential candidates who supported him. Angry because people are so stupid they don't look at the issues.
And yes, indeed, many of us have been vocally angry about the part that corporations have played in Republican and Democratic politics, with far more influence than voters have.
John Edwards is the only candidate willing to identify corporations as the basic problem in America AND tackle the problem. Neither of the other two frontrunners will get my vote, though I like Obama's charisma. I just don't think he'd bite the hand that feeds him though, as I know Hillary won't.
Edwards is only 2 delegates behind Obama and Obama is only 2 delegates behind Clinton. Where does that make him unwinnable? I'm angry, I'm angry that even left wing progressives aren't supporting the one candidate who scares the hell out of Wall Street.
CappuccettoRosso @ 113:
ok i just sent edwards the same ammount i sent kucinich, im putting my money where my mouth is, even though its not for my future its for americas , i dont have a future only a past!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hope @ 56:
So they forced the homeowner to sign the loan? Maybe they were greedy wanting a house they could not pay for??
Listen Edwards is a LAWYER who worked for a HUDGE FUND, if you think he represent the working class your an idiot
And what exactly is incorrect here? The anger pouring out of pro-Edwards voters is palpable. Who wants four more years of that? The leftish blogosphere needs ad ose of "reality community" and wake up to the realization that Sen Edwards just ain't that good a candidate. BTW I'm just a poor private citizen and no 'special insterest' but I sure as hell am voting Democratic Party. And I am tired of hearing Sen Edwards blame everyone but himself for his poor showing.
Rich people have unions too. They just dont paint a sign on the door.
chris @ 123:
Please don't feed the trolls. They are on a highly regulated diet designed to limit verbal diarrhea.
Quicklund @ 124:
i call it bullshit!!!!!!!!!!!
fiver @ 126:
You are so right, fiver ! the icing on the cake (of sorts..) is that all these trolls are REAL idiots ! Who told this one to live in the US? Based on his 'thinking' he IS an IDIOT EXTRAORDINAIRE who will keep paying for tax breaks of Bank of America 'earned' for its $4 billion buyout of Countrywide ! Who pressed him ? He must just love it so !!
http://money.cnn.com/2008/01/11/news/companies/sloan_countrywide.fortune...
Countrywide's sins: How you'll pay
January 11 2008: 3:41 PM EST
BofA's awesome Countrywide tax break
Brace yourselves, taxpayers of America. You're going to help Bank of America finance its $4 billion buyout of Countrywide.
Any candidate who isn't angry about what's been happening is a candidate who will make a useless president.
I donated $50 bucks, for the third time, after reading through these posts. I'll donate again as long as John stays in it until the convention. Up until this primary season, I was vocal but I never spoke with my wallet until now. I'm inspired by him and the treatment by the traditional media (even NPR for God's sake) is appalling and only fuels my anger and tireless support for John. I'm emailing friends and I drove 1 hour up to NH to hold signs at polling stations in NH for John. Again, I was never this involved or passionate about a candidate before. And to think that I only knew him as the trial lawyer with the pretty hair that lost in '04 before I decided to do a little research. Since the media ignores or only spreads negative spin about Edwards, it is up to us to spread the word about his candidacy and what it means for the people of this country.
fiver @ 126:
Nice, mature comeback, no wonder you guys can win the white house, pathetic...
Newsmax has set up a poll that only mentions Hillary and Obama. This is ridiculous!
Don't let the media, backed by corporate America decide this election. Come on people, if you really want change, vote for John Edwards. A vote for Hillary or Obama is a vote for a corporate democrat, therefore nothing would change. Corporate America fears John Edwards because he would force them to play by the rules, put a halt to replacing American jobs with overseas "slave" labor and stop them from escaping accountability. The republican "trickle-down" economy philosophy works very well. Their astronomical record profits trickle right down into the pockets of the corporate CEO's and to fund the transfer of more American jobs overseas and of course to control the media and buy their preferred legislation and candidates.
Although I realize that it's very tough for most in this disastrous collapsing bush economy, if at all possible, donate a little to the campaign. $25 or $50 is a small price to pay for the possibility that we and our children will have a future.
Don't let the media, backed by corporate America decide this election. Use your head. Do your homework. Research the facts. If you do these things, you'll vote for John Edwards.
We can win!
Fritz @ 133:
i just sent edwards fifty bucks from my social security check, its your country surely fifty bucks wont break you,
oh by the way you dont have to send hillary or barack any the corporations are filling up thier stocking!
The MSM is busy trying to set up a race/gender war to sell news infotainment to the masses on the one side, and having a Love-In with John Mccain on the other. I always wondered what happend to all the hacks who worked at Pravda.
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Howard Beale: Television is not the truth. Television is a goddamned amusement park.
Here's the newsmax polling fiasco
ewsmax.com, one of America's leading online news services, is conducting an urgent national online poll.
Vote in our poll and we will send you an email with a link to watch an exclusive webcast from political guru Dick Morris.
In this webcast, Dick Morris reveals the shocking truth about Hillary and whether she will beat Obama. Dick Morris will also reveal who the GOP nominee will be and much, much more. This is not to be missed!
But first, vote in Newsmax's online poll today. Newsmax reports have been cited by national major media, including Fox News, CNN and MSNBC.
1) Who do you believe will win the Democratic nomination for president in 2008?
Barack Obama
Hillary Clinton
2) What is your opinion of Hillary Clinton?
Favorable
Unfavorable
3) In a race between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, who would you vote for?
Barack Obama
Hillary Clinton
4) In the Republican race for President, who would you vote for?
John McCain
Mike Huckabee
Mitt Romney
Ron Paul
Fred Thompson
Rudy Guiliani
5) Who did you vote for in the 2004 election?
Bush
Kerry
Other
Results will be announced through Newsmax E-mail News Alerts. All poll takers automatically register for breaking news alerts. It's free and you can unsubscribe at any time.
http://polls.newsmax.com/hillary/
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No wonder, Edwards has lowest ratings because the pollsters are not mentioning his name in any of their polls.
Come on folks, this stinks.
Edwards reminds me of Adam West's Batman in a good way. Even if he can't pull it off this time, he should be in the next administration. I heard someone suggest that he'd make an amazing Attorney General which I agree.
This is the kind of shit we are allowing these bastards to get away with. Wolf Blitzer is angry at Senator Edwards because he blasted him in that trumped up debate he did.
They simply hate Edwards and Kuccinich, because they are telling it like it is and that they really are formidable candidates that American people adore for that reason.;
Why the hell can we not be smart and deal with these folks in a manor they deserve and just shut them down and tune them out.
They are not worthy of all this attention we are giving them and any of the candidates that would suck up to and take money from the likes of these people deserves exactly what they get.
Focus on demanding a free and fair election process, without the use of those voting machines. That is what we need to focus on, because if we don't they are going to snatch it away from us and I am so tired of this crap.
I hope you Obama and Clinton supporters who check out this site and actually read what is going on realize what it is you are really supporting. Take a few minutes and visit www.johnedwards.com, there you can find his plans in writing of what he will do to make our country, our country again. Voting for one of the other choices is akin to not voting at all. Think. Research. Vote. We all can win.
Edwards '08
Thank you
139, Blitzer's negative remarks should support Edwards. Thank G-d that he gave Edwards an opportunity to be on his show.
EZ @ 137:
I'm sending this to the Edwards site and others. Thanks.
Everybody running or who has run says "change" but who can deliver REAL change?!
Let's start a list of what to change here (add your own list):
1st: Any dem candidate is better than any non-dem candidate at this point in that they have populist and progressive tendencies if not real capabilities until they achieve executive power.
2nd: Once the mantle of exec power is transfered they will build the necessary team to implement real - pull the rug out - follow thru; out from under the corporate special interest groups that grease the palms and wheels of Washington legislators.
3rd: New seats in congress and the senate will also be in place in order to push through the new laws that will bring about the turn around implementations to repair the damage done by the Bush administration. Most of us don't think this thru and it's missing most of the time in arguments for change.
4th: All agencies and budgets must be reevaluated - some dismantled and others recreated. Military spending must be totally brought under control and transparent!
5th: Disclosure of all black budget special access programs must be exposed and brought to the light of day. Trillions of unaccounted for tax payer dollars go missing yearly and must be accounted for in the future.
6th: Bring all troops home and secure/protect our borders.
7th: Make reparations with all nations and apologize for any and all wars and violence towards them, promising neutrality and U.N. peacekeeping troops to arbitrate national and international disputes.
I hope John gets mad in the way he is good at. He focuses on message and tells us people that there are problems in America that need to be worked on.
I think us Americans should be the ones that are mad because it's our country that has been stolen from us and we need to take it back(but not forcefully of course).
its either edwards or kucinich ,you got no one else thats going to help you!night all!
Dick Morris is the pimp of Hillary and Bill is playing mischief against Edwards. How much are they paying Mr. Morris for your hard work?
MSNBC, CBS, FOX, CNN are culprits in that they have used NewsMax polls that does not even mention the other candidates whereas all the republican candidates are mentioned sacrilegiously.
Hillary is playing games.
Hold your outrage over Newsmax. They have as much conservative bias as Fox News. They are not friendly with any Democrat. Case in point: check out their website and you will see splashed across the top in boldface red:
"Latest: Was Barack Obama a Muslim?"
And one of their "inside cover" stories lists:
Poll: Fox Most Trusted News for Americans
I mean, you could spend all day being outraged at that site.
Quicklund @ 124:
I don't usually try to ridicule people who post their thoughts because, after all America is supposed to be a place where everyone can speak their mind and believe in their own believes. However, Tyree appears to be a moron. I do think you should have to at least some basic common sense or understand basic concepts.
1. The anger pouring out of pro-Edwards voters is palpable.
If the national coverage of your candidate was as Edwards is, you would be saying that the press is either sexist or racist.
2. The leftish blogosphere needs a dose of "reality community" and wake up to the realization that Sen Edwards just ain't that good a candidate.
I am an independant, not a leftist. The reality is, huge multi national corporations are gaining strength, power, and wealth as you read this. It does not take much research to see this, Ms Clinton and Obama are benifits of this and if you check you will see that they BOTH take (make) money from SEVERAL large PAC/LOBBISTS. (even Obama does, contrary to his claims, he will only NOT take money from FEDERALLY reconized Lobbists but state lobbys are aok... matter o fact you may see he has a number of those WORKING on his campaign. But you probably knew that already.
3. BTW I’m just a poor private citizen and no ’special insterest’ but I sure as hell am voting Democratic Party.
Obviously, from your statements you are a victim of "no child left behind" that while there is a candidate that actually has their plan in writing, including costs, timetables, enforcement, etc. You can probably do real well on an Iowa Basic Skills Test, however your severely limited on being able to think for yourself or understand what it is you see, depending solely on someone elses opinion (news corps) maybe. If you actually took the time to read (understand might be more appropriate) Mr. Edwards plan you would find that:
4. I am tired of hearing Sen Edwards blame everyone but himself for his poor showing.i call it bullshit!!!!!!!!!!!
You are an idiot. The bottom line here is that there is nobody who makes under 200000 dollars a year would vote intelligently for Clinton or Obama. They are better then Bush, but not by much. The root to almost EVERY problem our country faces is due to corporate greed. Healthcare, poverty, homeless, public schools, social security, and the war. If you can not understand this, then you my friend are the one that is full of, as you say, bullshit.
EZ @ 137:
This is why Kucinich never got any traction...he was never mentioned in the polls. Phone polls in which he was chosen were recorded as "none of the above" because his name wasn't offered as a choice. Don't forget, this is what was done to Howard Dean in '04, also--the media framed him as angry, then they ran with it when the scream happened; they'd already made up their minds that he wouldn't be the nominee--not enough of a horse race for them.
I said this the other day, but I do believe it--we should swear off the supposed "establishment news outlets" until the election is over, or for good. There are better ways to gather our information. An email to each of them (and which products/sponsors you'll no longer be supporting--be specific) about why you're doing this may not help, but it may not hurt, either. Like "Rasputin" said above, it may be a drop in the bucket, but it's a pretty damned important one.
Dan @ 148:
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