Kucinich drops out of White House bid
By bluegal Wednesday Jan 23, 2008 5:30pm
Cleveland Congressman Dennis Kucinich is dropping out of the Democratic race for president.
Kucinich will make the announcement Friday at a news conference in Cleveland. In an exclusive interview with Plain Dealer editors and reporters, Kucinich said he will explain his "transition" tomorrow.
"I want to continue to serve in Congress," he said.
Kucinich said he will not endorse another Democrat in the primary. Read more...
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Can his wife still be first lady?
His wife wins 1ST lady vote
still may vote for him super tuesday.
Bummer!
Sorry to see this. He is the type of person this country needs!
Oh well...I guess I gotta vote for Ron Paul
HA ha, but yet you supported him more then Gravel knowing full well this day would come. wonder how much longer Paul is gonna keep making bank on the poor suckers that believe in these snake oil salesman.
Vote for me Ill save you from the NWO.
how about instead we vote for ourselves and make our opinions count for something beyond just meaningless reasons to vote for someone that says it.
I'm going to be nice and try not to mock the people who said not only was he was going to be the next President but that I was a fool to disagree with them.
It's all good. Dennis can perform a greater service to his country by staying in the House and fighting the good fight. Voters need to send more people like Denny to Washington in order to bring about real change.
p.s. His wife is still sssssmmmmooookin' hot!
Just doesn't have what it takes ---------- in the CORPORATE REICH WORLD. Ideally he would have been the one for the US but he does not believe in eating his young.
Well it was fun. Glad he is going to move on to focus on his role in congress.
He never had a chance at the presidency but he had a message, shared it widely and will go back and be effective as a voice for the liberal left.
Now when will Obama wise up and go back to his day job?
Well, guess my intended plan to write in Dennis K. as my choice here in the Texas Primaries has gone "bye bye". Damn, WHO to vote for is now a hard decision.
Maybe Dennis can now use his extra time to help chriss dodd filibuster the fisa bill
I'm truly sorry to see this but it wasn't a huge surprise with the unfair and unbalanced way the media treats candidates.
Another way for the corporations to mold the country in their own image.
Gekke @ 14:
Dodd is a U.S. Senator, Dennis is a U.S. House member.
Not a total waste. I think Kucinich and Dodd changed the discussion and moved the front runners positions to a more progressive spot (at least temporarily).
Whenever I take one of those on-line blind questionnaires that ask you where you stand on issues and then match you with a candidate, it's always Kucinich. It's like always getting the ugly chick from a dating service.
Don't get me wrong--I voted for the guy in the 2004 primary (by then, Kerry had it locked up). But I just don't think he has the presence, the charisma, to be President. It's not just about making good decisions, it's about inspiring people.
Gekke @ 14:
How about workin' on those impeachment papers...I hear he wants to present them before Bush's state of the union adress soon!
At least he will continue to serve in the House. That's a silver lining.
Kucinich for Speaker in '08!
Mr. Kucinich would make a kick ass cabinet member if a Dem were to win the White House IMHO.
America isn't ready for an honest President that would serve the American taxpayers over special interest lobbyists and inside deals. Dennis would have been a GREAT President, now it'll just be a changing of the guard.
Good Luck Dennis, I'll keep my Kucinich '08 bumper sticker on my vehicle until I'm forced to replace it with a chinese made car.
bluegal - I just sent C&L what we were sent last night... (you were too fast for me)
there may be something in the email you can glean to give more info here on C&L
I disagree with Kucinich on nearly everything, yet he'd of got my vote over any dem or republican (except RP).
I'm not sure why Dems didn't go for Dennis more because unlike most modern day republicans, democrats tend to have more of an idea of what their party was actually meant to stand for. He has stronger convictions and greater foresight than any of the front 3, which really makes it boil down to nothing more than a personality contest.
So goes my fantasy of the first first lady with a tongue stud!
Unless Bill is thinking of getting one.....
WR @ 23:
Ya me too.. I am thinking of now posting Edwards next to it.. It could make for a very interesting story if I keep going like that until the "bitter" end.
If he wants to spend more time with his wife, I completely understand.
gene214 @ 10:
That's sort of how I feel about Hillary. If she's the nominee I will surely vote for her; but we need more liberals in the Senate (and House), and she seemed to just be hitting her stride as a senator, IMHO. I mean, she coulda been a contendah for Moynihan's gnat-in-the-ear role.
Bit NOLA @ 1:
Maybe she could take a shot at running. I bet she'd get media coverage.
jimbo92107 @ 28:
Yes, many of us do...
Come Nov 2nd, I'll still be writing Dennis' name on my ballot. He's still the only one who is worth my vote.
Zenrage @ 32:
Dennis would not want you to waste a vote on him by then and it could not have good consequences for us.. we got to stick together!
A shame, he is so refreshing.And, like others have stated, he gets to spend more time with the wife.What a 1st lady she would have made! Finally a hottie to pick up where Jackie Kennedy left off. He's the poster boy for brains over looks, not since that Cali dude bagged Jane Fonda...
Zenrage @ 32:
Curious, in which State do you reside? In my State all voting will be done electronically
via machines and no write-ins as far as I know.
I was waiting for someone to bring up the tongue stud or UFO's which seems the only thing the media seemed to care about his run. Sad to see so many sheep here too.....
At some point, you just have to face the music which Dennis is doing now. Hopefully, his message has resonated with enough people in America that they will now question what the Government tells them instead of taking it at its word. Dennis is one of the first members of Congress to go against the grain and speak out against the war in Iraq when so many in America wanted blood. He is a true Patriot and a true leader that saw the fallacy of Iraq well before it manifested itself. Hopefully, Americans have learned something from him during the Presidential debates and will not fall for the same pack of lies again. I wish Dennis and his wife all of the best and expect more from him when he returns to Congress.
Dear Devoted C&L Readers:
It is with great regret that I announce that, effective immediately, I am going to resign my position at my job so that I can spend more time with Dennis Kucinich's wife. Now, all I have to do is figure out how to break the news to my wife :-)
cv @ 30:
Unfortunately she wasn't born in this country. As we all learned from Sandra Bullock in Demolition Man, that disqualifies you from being president.
Youffraita @ 29:
Ha! You said Hillary is a liberal . . good one!!
The country will never allow another peace-driven president until we've had a complete collapse of infrastructure from war strain. It won't happen for a very, very long time.
The Right-wing has lost a talking point....
Now Dennis and the other loyal, patriotic Congressional Representatives can concentrate 100% of their efforts behind protecting and defending the United States Constitution and begin hearings for impeaching bush and cheney.
Rusty Shackleford @ 39:
Ahem. Some of us actually learned this in school. Or via Bob Hope.
Doggiebobo @ 35:
You should move to oregon. All voting is done by mail.
(sound of crickets chirping) " Y-A-W-W-W-N . "
Sad to see the only candidate, D or R, that wasn't a wholly owned subsidiary of corporate america leave. He would have leveled with the Pig People and no one in 'murka wants to hear the truth. Sigh.
So long, Dennis, we hardly knew ye, because the MSM ignored ye.
I will respect this man more than ever for his forthright stands that his Democratic collegues should have embraced long ago.
God Bless ya, Dennis.
we welcome all kucinich supporters over to our side - the ron paul side.
the side where the fight continues, riding on these neo-con bitches for discontinued foreign entanglement and the restoration of our constitutional rights.
...
the bandwagon still has room, welcome.
As someone who matches up with Kucinich politically on every "test" I take, I wish he could have had more success in this race. I also match up with him in having a wonderfully intelligent, politically astute (when she bothers to pay attention), gorgeous wife. I guess one of the reasons he and I match up, though, is that we just can't help sometimes being truthful when dissembling would "accomplish" more. Sort of.
Sad day
Mike @ 47:
Funny thing about MSM ignoring him.. this news is getting a lot of attention.. go figure.
Ryan from Portland @ 48:
I planned on voting for Dennis in my primary on Feb. 5th. Now what?
ExxonMobil4prez @ 33:
Kucinich said he will not endorse another Democrat in the primary.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22827738/
ConcernedCanuck @ 54:
True.. but that does not mean we are supposed to lay down and let the devil back in! I was going to vote my hopes in the primary.. (not as in the other 2 that like to use HOPE) now I will be voting for a little LESS HOPE in the primary.. and my FEARS in the general.. as usual. It still will be better than having another republican right? On and on the circle goes.. sigh..
Sorry to see you go Dennis, you were the one person who could have brought real change to America. Now we will go with the illusion of change we are getting from the Dems front runners.
one down one to go, i guess edwards will be turned out next by the love me some corporate whores obama and clinton! backers
DarthSaikos @ 41:
If we have a John "Bomb Iran" McCain administration, it won't be long before the US reaches 3rd world status. Kucinich could have turned that bad fate around, no more.
Keep fighting the good fight Dennis, don't let them win.
ExxonMobil4prez @ 55:
Yes, there is always hope. I'm glad I am not in the position to choose between Obama and Hillary. I don't think I could vote for either one, knowing their corporate ties and all......and Edwards is disappearing fast.
This is a sad day for America. Perhaps America will be ready for Dennis in another 4 years. or 8?
Agent Provocateur @ 21:
yeah! now we are talking!!!
Great. The only guy I actually would vote for drops out. Now what? All the other schmucks are the same as each other - corporate sponsored tools who would put the MIC before the people, the constitution, and peace. Fuck...
more at my blog...
Rally for Edwards! He is the only candidate close to Kucinich's common sense.
IMHO If all he got out of his (non) campaign was the wife, it was soooo worth it.
Sad day.....every other Democrat is a Bush clone. You guys will pay dearly. Don't whine when Hillary or Obama go through with the same Bush war policies.
I'd love to see a totally bollocked convention...
And a draft Gore/Richardson ticket as a result.
All clean hands? Acceptable to ALL (except maybe the Hillbots...)
Kucinich still has my vote. He speaks the truth, rare for a politician. My wife and I are voting for Kucinich anyway as a write-in in the California primary.
Peoples Front of Judea @ 60:
Do you know that the corporate media monopoly is going to be broken up or what?
Corporations are choosing the next CEO of America, not Americans in general.
Gee, Dennis I see you're a real team player. NOT! Adios muchacho.
is our children learned yet
Looks like America isn't ready for a FLILF. Pity. Kucinich would've been a drastic departure from today's climate.
old hack @ 8:
MIKE GRAVEL FOR PRESIDENT!
"Kucinich drops out of White House bid"
They forgot to put him in the child safety seat?
Being only 5'3'' myself.
dennis would have gotten my vote had he stayed in.
hillary? won't vote for her even is she gets to the general election.
obama? likes to talk in broad strokes, but really says nothing.
edwards? i'm liking that what he says has bite. the MSM are trying to squeeze him out because they're scared of him.
If no other Democrat Candidate signed on-board in favor of the current articles of impeachment against cheney and bush, I will take my vote elsewhere,
GOT IT DEMS?
Your move.....
Well I guess now I can officially register as an independent. Unfortunately it's too late to change in time for the primary in CA.
I'm going Green.
If he manages to get Bush & Cheney impeached, he will have done a greater service to this country than he ever could than by running for the presidency. I'll miss seeing his wife on TV though....
Now if these two phoney candidates would go away, Maybe, just maybe the MSM would pay some attention to Edwards' campaign.
While Kucinich had good ideas , he was sorely lacking in the most important (IMHO) Presidential quality :
Leadership
No matter how good the idea or plan is , if a person running to "Lead" the Country can't get at least a sizable plurality -O- folk behind him/her , they ain't a good Leader . And we all know what happens when a Prez is expected to "grow" into the Job .
Whatever the policy debate , Dennis K was and is not a Leader . That's not my opinion , it's the voters .
I'll now jus' slip down behind this here wall ( I've built) and read a bit while avoiding the likely digital brickbats thrown my way for having a contrary opinion or point , as seems to be the meme here on C & L these divisive days .
Jeeze .
Chris @ 64:
Yes it's 4 years of blaming the repugs in congress for blocking all of Hillary's proposals. Suddenly, in Jan of 2009, the presidency will lose it's new powers that Bushco found under every rock they turned over.
73 bk9 Says:
I'll gladly vote for Hillary if she's the candidate, and I would encourage you to do so also. We have Ruth Bader Ginsburg and at least one other justice talking about retiring from the Supreme Court, and we don't want a reichwinger selecting the successor. But in the primary, I'll vote for Edwards, my choice, if he hasn't dropped out before Texans vote in March.
BoiseNick @ 77:
And king geeorgie jr. had 'leadership' quality? NOT!!
Bush speaks and people ignore him, or pull their money 'OFF THE TABLE'.
rotflmmfao - thanks for the laugh!
Sorry Dennis, you are idealistic enough but you're needed back at the Keebler tree.
ysbaddaden @ 79:
hillary lost any chance of my vote when she was screaming about israel's right to level lebanon in front of the israeli embassy years ago. i'm a new yorker and i voted against her for senator.
we need to end this nonsense in the US of bush/clinton royal family and stop giving a blank check to the ONLY nuclear nation in the middle east, israel.
CalGeorge @ 53:
Enjoy bad Joe Cimperman political spots....
NOOOOO!! The most qualified candidate is no longer an option. Damn!
He's still a winner in my book. He gets to wake up to Elizabeth every morning. Top that.
WR @ 23:
Me too!
(Sigh..) Just like I said on another thread.. 'sad excuse for a primary season'.... And I suppose my fallback choice (Edwards) will go under too....over money...and lack of exposure by the MSM(where the hell is publicly financed campaigns dammit!!??) That's the only thing that has a chance of dealing with special interest manipulation of all this.
And now,the way Obama and Hillary are acting like spoilt brats with their negative bullshit, (Not black enough, not girly enough, too girly, I'm a blacker black than you, he/she started it first Nyaaah nyaah nyaah) etc.. verses other issues that are significantly more important (Fisa and its abuse, immigration, that freeking war, net neutrality, the crushing national debt etc just to name a mere few) that will materially effect all of us... Not who is black and not who is a girl.. It is damned obvious who is what on that score. Obama is a black man and Hillary is a girl.. end of fucking discussion!!!
I guess I'll be holding my nose after all when I fill out my paper ballot for Prez.. My thoughts on Hillary more or less revolves around telling her to send Bill to the sidelines to manage the house and chill for awhile and get serious about talking the real issues for a change instead of regaling us with soundbite pablum about her 35 years... Yes, that's all nice Hilly but where do you stand on the important shit! Whatcha gonna do about this trainwreck lady?
On Obama? Dude, I want to like you and I do to a certain extent, but you're losing me now days, pushing the soundbites over subtance a bit too much...Just like Clinton.. And your spitting contest with Hillary just makes me want to tell you to grow the fuck up... This tit for tat bullshit between the two of you ain't workin for me and it ill serves this nation.
I intend to vote dem... What the hell else can I do? Don't make me feel like I'm just doing the same ol dosy-doe pickin the lesser of two evils just like I've been doing since 19 fucking 80!!! THAT shit IS gettin old! JD
BoiseNick @ 77:
Actually, many voters may have seen Dennis in exactly the light that you have described and it turned them off. For other people they actually size candidates up while they are deciding. They choose their candidates based up the way he/she speaks, the way they carry themselves, and by their physical characteristics. For them, the ideas of a candidate are not that important. Its unfortunate that this is the case with some voters but that is the way they do it.
ConcernedCanuck @ 54:
So who gets all his delegates?
While it is an established fact that Mrs. Kucinich is a very attractive lady, I would like to touch on the things I found attractive in the Kucinich campaign.
I found a sincere love for our Constitutuin attractive.
I found a genuine respect for the "Rule of Law" attractive.
I found a man of little physical stature stand taller than any of his peers when he took our fight to Washington as attractive.
I found a man with the strength of his convictions, who boldly called attention to the inequities of our system of government attractive.
I found that Elizabeth Kucinich having the foresight and intelligence to choose an American Hero over an American "Idol" as attractive.
When America one day wakes up and prefers leadership over "soundbites" I hope to high Heaven that Dennis is still available.
As for Hillary and Obama, do you really believe either candidate, who wouldn't stand up for fair treatment of a fellow candidate in debates, really gives a damn about the common man?
I don't.
When winning is the most important issue, even above the welfare of the country or the right of the public to be properly informed, the drive for the Oval Office is skewed.
Perhaps beyond any redemption at this point.
This is just another case of sad reality crashing down on my American dream. On the brighter side, my boy Dennis can now focus on the other great hope ... impeachment.
I guess the next in line for my dream is Edwards, those anti-corporation speeches sound good to my ears. If he can throw in a word or two in about pulling out of Iraq, stopping the imminent Iran war, radically changing foreign policy, and returning to a democracy I'd be all for him.
cubejockey @ 83:
Oh, my.
Mixing the music from Once Upon a Time with the title sequence from GBU shows no taste at all.
After Bill Richardson, and now Dennis Kucinich only John Edwards is left.
Edwards FTW!!
Not that i can vote tho, i'm a foreigner.
85 President PNACcio Says: He’s still a winner in my book. He gets to wake up to Elizabeth every morning. Top that.
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Funny thing, in my fantasies Elizabeth is the top
Wearing black leather patent, stilletto, thigh boots
With a strap on...
Dennis would make a great vice president! I fear we will be in for 4 years of bullfrog in the cheek McCain.
I'd say it comes down to John Edwards or Ron Paul.
With the loss of Kucinich, we lose two items in the debate:
1.) Single payer health insurance (medicare) versus corporate welfare version.
2.) Free Trade, which Kucinich opposed, where the corporate media has America believing it works when we incur $750B/year deficits, year after year.
Will be voting for some Democrat, in the primary and general election.
No room for robber baron capitalism and white supremacy here (Ron Paul).
Kucinich has great vision but no tactics. To get a chance at being president you must first line up the moola and make all the compromises that entails. So we get the government the rich say we can have and nothing more. Now DK will have to fight for his congressional seat without any help from the party (though Pelosi had no problem raising money and endorsing Al Wynn, a bushdog if there ever was one). I have sent him a few bucks to help him keep his congressional seat, I hope others will do likewise.
R.I.P. Dennis!
This news depressed the heck out of me today. I got my CA absentee ballot yesterday and now I don't know who to vote for. I voted for Dennis in the 2004 primary because I only trusted him and Howard Dean to behave like Democrats and Dean was already gone. I guess I'll wait and let this shake out a little before February 5th and I'll walk my absentee in that morning. The primaries have always been where I got to vote with my head and my heart and not have to wince when I voted. I guess that won't happen this year. I won't vote for Ron Paul (even if I could) because while I agree with him on a couple of things I disagree with him far more often. I'm a liberal not a Libertarian.
Che's Lounge @ 75:
Very well said.
A presidential candidate actually interested in national healthcare? If America really knew how this would benifit them then he would have been easily elected. Instead we'll continue as the only industrial nation(in the world!) to not have a national healthcare system.
UFO: UNIDENTIFIED FIGHTING OFFICIALS has been Identified:
Des Moine Register, ABC/Disney, NBC/GE, MSM, U.S Supreme Court, Insurance Industry, Healthcare Industry and all the BIG Corporate OIL, the DEMOCRATIC PARTY, and the natural opponent REPUBLIC GIANT ELEPHANTS.
The People of AMERICA may have lost the most honest, Intelligent, courageous, law abiding Presidential Candidate that has been CORRECT all along about IRAQ......and has been CORRECT,,,,to identify....who controls the "FREEDOM" in United States .....BUT we have GAINED a TRUE leader for WE THE PEOPLE.
KUCINICH will go down in History as the most patriotic defender of the U.S. Constitution in the 20th century and the 110th Congress.............
YOU HAVE MY RESPECT and will continue my pledge to support your good work.
ExxonMobil4prez @ 11:
Boo hoo. Dennis we wish you all the best and thank you for your dedication.
Proud American @ 102:
Got the Quote into 104 -- but left off the comment. Here it is:
This friend speaks my mind.
jimbo92107 @ 28:
Good one .
NoBuddy @ 96:
Which M$M outlet do you work for?
I assume that must be your day job, since you are ignoring Edwards (again).
Edwards are you watching, your now on the clock....
"Kucinich drops out..."
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Good luck to you Dennis. And thank you.
It's up to you now, Mr. Edwards...
All of the so-called "progressive" bloggers and media should be ashamed of themselves for NOT doing anything to bring Dennis' campaign to more mainstream light. The progressive community such as Air America, Democracy Now!, the Nation, Daily Kos and even C & L could all have done more to get his name out.
Kucinich could've been where Ron Paul is now if the progressives were more willing to push through their candidate the way Paul's supporters did.
This should tell anyone out there that the progressive community really doesn't care about the state of this country that much; they are simply the left side of the same ol' establishment rooting for a lame Hillary/Obama photo finish.
hardrain77 @ 110:
You mean that if progressives were more willing to pimp him like Paul's did, Kucinich could be getting his ass kicked by his party's frontrunners?
KOOCH!
And there goes the best candidate in the race by far. It's to bad that our election "system" is so horribly bad that such a good candidate had such a small chance. :(
Rusty Shackleford @ 111:
At least he would still be in the debates. Ron Paul's backers stepped it up when Fox tried to exclude him. The progressive media should've fought harder with NBC and ABC to put Dennis in the debates.
A judge told NBC to put Dennis in the debates and they STILL refused. What happened to Kucinich was that his backers never had his back.
I agree, to bad most progressives did not put their support behind Kucinich. I donated twice to his campaign and worked hard to convince my Democratic and Liberal friends to support him. But most people would rather play politics as usual. I have to give it to all the Ron Paul supporters. I may not always see eye to eye with them but I can respect them for what they have accomplished and wish them luck. In the mean time I need to figure out which of the three Dems I should now support.
Is there anyone who doesn't see a need for reform of our voting system?
Give all the candidates the same amount of money and the same amount of airtime. Everyone vote the same day, a nationwide primary. Every candidate stays in til the end. Media reporting only the stats as a ticker at the bottom, no commenting until its over (I don't want to hear who Tweety wants to fellate while having a beer). Real people who work for a living ask the questions, fuck corporate mega media. Any campaign finance violations result in the donor being made destitute. This would be a decent start.
JTM Says:
I assume that must be your day job, since you are ignoring Edwards (again).
I haven't ignored him at all. From what I gather, Edward's plan is articulated here, and it doesn't look like single payer to me.
To be truthful, it was Kucinich I gave short shrift to, until I watched the Travis Smiley debates and found I was in nearly total agreement on the issues with Dennis. Prior to watching that debate, I was a Barrack man. I then watched the AFL-CIO debate and again liked Kucinich.
From what I gather, Medicare, which single payer could be modeled after, has much lower overhead than insurance company managed health care. This reduced overhead could help pay for the uninsured being picked up and covered. According to the Edwards web site, there is a lot of mention of insurance and no mention of "single payer". I don't see how collaborating with the insurance companies will generate the cost savings necessary to create a sustainable health care system since the profit motive and fiduciary duty is to maximize shareholder value. Some more soundbytes from the candidates on health care.
From the same site, the soundbytes on good jobs:
John Edwards
On Good Jobs:
"I believe that the true test of a trade deal is not its reception on Wall Street or contribution to the gross domestic product. Instead, my primary criterion for new trade deals will be simple: considering its impact on jobs, wages and prices, will it make most families better off?"
Dennis Kucinich
On Good Jobs:
"My first act in office will be to notify the appropriate parties that the United States is pulling out of NAFTA and the WTO. We will return to a system of bilateral trade based on worker rights, human rights and environmental protection."
I evaluate the language used by candidates. Is the language abstract, or is it specific. Dennis was articulating the positions I agree with, in a very specific, no nonsense terms. So, to me, the other candidates are lesser substitutes, but make no mistake, much better than any of the Republicans. Now Edwards is making points on the economy, and right now, it's the economy, stupid. On the other hand, Obama was right on the war, and if we weren't pissing away all this money in Iraq, maybe we wouldn't have economic issues.
Here's Hillary on good jobs versus Edwards or Obama
Hillary Clinton
On Good Jobs:
"Part of a new strategy for jobs means that universal, high-speed broadband access has to be as big a priority today as interstate highways, canal systems, rural electrification and railroads were in generations past."
No mention of free trade, no explanation as to why $750B/year trade deficit and loss of our manufacturing base is a good thing. I'd vote for Hillary over the Republican's just for the judgeships, but on the war and free trade, she's the same as McCain. She is heavily lobbied, and the question we need to be asking with these politicians is, with our politicians being corporate owned, and our corporations being increasingly foreign owned, who really owns our politicians and who are they working for.
Wow, I'm surprised no one has said it yet...
Why drop out now?
Is Cleveland sick of having an absentee congressman?
Is Kucinich is facing a tough primary challenger?
Did the UFO tell Kucinich the time is not right?
Did he finally read the part of the Constitution that explains his congressional role?
or
Is it wrong to add a Cavuto mark to my sentence and ask inflammatory questions?
Just asking...
hardrain77 @ 110:
I AGREE.
hardrain77 @ 114:
The key difference you ignore is that L Ron Paul DOES NOT OPPOSE YUCCA FLATS, and D. Kucinich does.
So L Ron Paul is NBC's sweetheart. He LOVES nuclear dumps, and the transport of nuclear materials to those dumps through out towns. He also thinks coal and oil should be used up down to the last drop -- he is a big supporter of drilling out Alaska's last few refuges, and he wants to PRIVATIZE all public lands (via the corrupt loons in the vacant states).
He wants to gut all federal environmental law, and send people to the courts to refight for all the rights they won since the Constitution rolled off Madison's pen.
And he's in bed with the hardcore white-supremacist racists, as bad as (H)uckabee. To compare any of those positions to Dennis Kucinich is to poke out both your eyes and ask for glasses.
No more reason to remain a registered Democrat.
Dennis Kucinich represents the best of what America can be. He is a great patriot and a man who believes in public service, and to improving people's lives.
Here's a wonderful segment from the Harmony Festival last summer '07:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=H1KioPFCq7Q
Jai guru deva om
Nothing's gonna change my world
Nothing's gonna change my world
Nothing's gonna change my world
Nothing's gonna change my world
"Bummer" I guess with his 1% tally in the states he "ran" in he will be expecting a prime-time slot at the DNC this year. And I say "why not" he sure has "earned" it. Go back to Congress, Dennis, the people of Cleveland deserve to see you once in a while We'll see you in 2012, when you challenge Hillary for the nomination.
I can't decide what I want more, John Edwards getting denied a part in a Hillary Clinton White House or Dennis Kuchinich not speaking at the DNC.
Rusty Shackleford @ 20:
Don't assume that. The Repugs are sponsoring a massive campaign against Dennis Kucinich in Cleveland. They are spending millions of dollars on TV adds trying to unseat him. Dennis Kucinich has been the one true voice of Americas progressives and he has been squashed in the presidential race by the corporates, and now they are trying to do the same thing with his congressional seat. Please do whatever you can to help keep this great representative of the people where he can continue his fight for justice, health care, and the Constitution.
Grey Haired Crone @ 104:
Well said
Jeff @ 31:
Oh dear Gaawd, yes! What a knockout she is!
Now we'll have to count on Edwards to keep the dialogue both on track and honest.
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I'm a precinct worker in FL and will be working in a differenct precinct than my voting precinct on primary day, so I voted early for Rep. Kucinich. I knew he could drop out after I voted, but I had to vote with my conscience, my heart and my head. I really wanted to see him pull out his pocket bible for the swearing in at his inaguration. On to the lesser candidates.
Paul in LA @ 120:
bzzzzt. Wrong!
"All the Democratic candidates for president have said they will stop Yucca Mountain; no Republican other than Rep. Ron Paul has ruled it out."
And the rest of the fiction you wrote is equally wrong. If you want to debate it, repost it in an open thread.
bk9 @ 82:
well said, ysbaddaden. All that money to Israel could go a long way to take care of things here at home
noitaluspacne @ 130:
Exactly!
Isome @ 121:
Good riddance. If all that was holding you to the only party that delivers any kind of social progress was Kucinich 2008, you were never in our A Team anyhow.
noitaluspacne @ 130:
He says that nuclear power is our safest available form of power. And he opposes Yucca Mtn? Then what does he plan on doing with the waste?
DIALTONE.
noitaluspacne @ 130:
"He also thinks coal and oil should be used up down to the last drop — he is a big supporter of drilling out Alaska’s last few refuges, and he wants to PRIVATIZE all public lands (via the corrupt loons in the vacant states)."
All of that is clearly correct. He supports the elimination of federal pollution controls, he has put forward bills to drill ANWR, he says that global climate change cannot be controlled by humans anyhow, and he wants to privatize all federal lands (1.8 billion acres, including the national parks). Do you REALLY think that Montana, Wyoming, and Idaho should be solely able to decide what happens to Yellowstone?
"He wants to gut all federal environmental law, and send people to the courts to refight for all the rights they won since the Constitution rolled off Madison’s pen."
That's clearly the case. He expects local homeowners to be able to sue multinational corporations over local pollution -- which is hilarious. He also opposes malpractice lawsuits.
"And he’s in bed with the hardcore white-supremacist racists, as bad as (H)uckabee."
He refuses to return WSR money, and he is the darling of the KKK for his anti-immigrant stand. These issues are debatable, but the key point was:
"To compare any of those positions to Dennis Kucinich is to poke out both your eyes and ask for glasses."
Dennis Kucinich, who shit on himself when he suggested any association with L Ron Paul, is opposed to 100% of those rollbacks of our freedoms, and he supports the medical rights of women as well.
I don't understand why all these people in Cleveland attack Dennis for fighting for the constitution as a true patriot. Why are they afraid to open the can of worms? Are they really so brainwashed? or are they just ignorant folk?
Such a shame. The media has simply ignored Dennis for years because he's short and unattractive. If we had a responsible media that actually reported on issues and not personalities, Dennis would be top tier.
I'm going to miss you, Dennis. I guess I'm moving to John Edwards now.
shame on the liberal blogs for not talking about real good honest candidates.
ExxonMobil4prez @ 33:
Suck dirt. You clowns can vote for the same old lesser evil time and time again if you want. I'm not wasting my vote by pimping someone with lesser values. This time, I'm leaving the voting booth with a clear conscience.
The Republicans are monsters, but the Democrats are useless. I'm an Egalitarian Socialist now, and I'm not going to surrender my values for the sake of "stupid versus stupid" again.
Zenrage @ 140:
amen
milquetoast @ 6:
i try and i try but i still cant see what the f*ck is so great about ron paul
More people in the US believe in UFOs than support Dennis
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-161154636796558877&q=ufo+compil...
NoBuddy @ 117:
Dennis Kucinich's statement sounds like a guy who with all the best intentions in the world has no concept of the political realities involved in being President. Idealistic two-fer the end of WTO and NAFTA would be, but realistically it could never happen because it would piss off the other partners in those groups, and some very rich and powerful people to boot. It would be just as cavalier an attitude to international stability as Bush has had. This kind of stuff needs to be done carefully.
And anyway, your manufacturing base was sold to the highest bidder *long* before NAFTA, so blaming the latter for the loss of the former is disingenuous, whether the agreement hastened the collapse or not.
Edwards knows that single-payer isn't do-able in the short term simply because the money and infrastructure is not yet there. What he proposes is a way of building a foundation which could be used to build single-payer upon once the system is financially stable.
good riddance.
he lost all my respect when he disrespected his supporters by telling him to vote for Obama in Iowa if he wouldn't be viable.
Hey, that's great. I would have given him my vote, but we don't vote until May! The Secretary of State sez it would cost too much to move up our Presidential Election.
Zenrage @ 140:
H'yeah, because goodness knows this is all about keeping a clear conscience. It's about making hard choices.
This is a CAUCUS GOVERNMENT. If we don't have the votes, we don't get the changes. And for that reason, we can't afford to vote for people who aren't going to be elected--at the risk of installing more corrupt Republicans.
My Representative is Diane Watson. She supports immediate withdrawal from Iraq, and immediate impeachment of both execs. If you don't have a good Democrat to vote for, help find one.
I support instant runoff voting, the fastest way to add third party voices to our gov't. But until we can reestablish enough control of the gov't, we can't change the laws. There is no substitute for getting more control in a clear conscience. You have to fight back.
Every time I see his wife I just know that Dennis is, and may have been the original, wild and crazy guy.
John @ 145:
Why is that such a betrayal? He was trying to take energy away from Clinton. It was an understandable gambit.
Kucinich is worthy of considerable respect. His politics are pretty much in the right place, even if he isn't taken seriously for chief executive. If we had ten more of him in the Congress, I wouldn't mind a bit, and neither should you. We need him to keep his seat in the Congress, and anyone who thinks otherwise or is nursing a grudge is just too high-strung.
Paul in LA @ 134:
That is a FANTASTIC question... why don't you do some RESEARCH instead of just pulling stuff out of your butt?
Thanks Dennis, thanks for your input, thanks for pushing progressive causes, and this primary season to the left....
My & wife were going to vote for him in the primary on Feb 5th originally, but we've come to see Edwards as the progressive candidate with the best shot at the WH.
"With Kucinich leaving, Edwards is the last progressive candidate" - Thom Hartmann
Edwards 08
Thanks Dennis, keep up your great work in Congress!
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