Barack Obama's South Carolina Victory Speech
By Logan Murphy Friday Jan 25, 2008 9:26pm
Following his decisive win in Saturday's democratic primary in South Carolina, Senator Barack Obama gave a passionate victory speech to an enthusiastic crowd of supporters. Obama's tone was positive and hopeful, going after President Bush and the Republican party of jingoism. He calls out the status quo in Washington -- asks for an end to the decades of bitter political divisiveness that has infiltrated the country and touches on his heated exchanges with the Clinton campaign.
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John Amato: CNN's Bill Bennett just said that Obama's speech was "uplifting."
We have about ten minutes of video with the transcript below the fold.
Obama: Over two weeks ago, we saw the people of Iowa proclaim that our time for change has come. But there were those who doubted this country's desire for something new – who said Iowa was a fluke not to be repeated again.
Well, tonight, the cynics who believed that what began in the snows of Iowa was just an illusion were told a different story by the good people of South Carolina. After four great contests in every corner of this country, we have the most votes, the most delegates, and the most diverse coalition of Americans we've seen in a long, long time.
They are young and old; rich and poor. They are black and white; Latino and Asian. They are Democrats from Des Moines and Independents from Concord; Republicans from rural Nevada and young people across this country who've never had a reason to participate until now. And in nine days, nearly half the nation will have the chance to join us in saying that we are tired of business-as-usual in Washington, we are hungry for change, and we are ready to believe again.
But if there's anything we've been reminded of since Iowa, it's that the kind of change we seek will not come easy. Partly because we have fine candidates in the field – fierce competitors, worthy of respect. And as contentious as this campaign may get, we have to remember that this is a contest for the Democratic nomination, and that all of us share an abiding desire to end the disastrous policies of the current administration.
But there are real differences between the candidates. We are looking for more than just a change of party in the White House. We're looking to fundamentally change the status quo in Washington – a status quo that extends beyond any particular party. And right now, that status quo is fighting back with everything it's got; with the same old tactics that divide and distract us from solving the problems people face, whether those problems are health care they can't afford or a mortgage they cannot pay. So this will not be easy. Make no mistake about what we're up against.
We are up against the belief that it's ok for lobbyists to dominate our government – that they are just part of the system in Washington. But we know that the undue influence of lobbyists is part of the problem, and this election is our chance to say that we're not going to let them stand in our way anymore.
We are up against the conventional thinking that says your ability to lead as President comes from longevity in Washington or proximity to the White House. But we know that real leadership is about candor, and judgment, and the ability to rally Americans from all walks of life around a common purpose – a higher purpose.
We are up against decades of bitter partisanship that cause politicians to demonize their opponents instead of coming together to make college affordable or energy cleaner; it's the kind of partisanship where you're not even allowed to say that a Republican had an idea – even if it's one you never agreed with. That kind of politics is bad for our party, it's bad for our country, and this is our chance to end it once and for all.
We are up against the idea that it's acceptable to say anything and do anything to win an election. We know that this is exactly what's wrong with our politics; this is why people don't believe what their leaders say anymore; this is why they tune out. And this election is our chance to give the American people a reason to believe again.
And what we've seen in these last weeks is that we're also up against forces that are not the fault of any one campaign, but feed the habits that prevent us from being who we want to be as a nation. It's the politics that uses religion as a wedge, and patriotism as a bludgeon. A politics that tells us that we have to think, act, and even vote within the confines of the categories that supposedly define us. The assumption that young people are apathetic. The assumption that Republicans won't cross over. The assumption that the wealthy care nothing for the poor, and that the poor don't vote. The assumption that African-Americans can't support the white candidate; whites can't support the African-American candidate; blacks and Latinos can't come together.
But we are here tonight to say that this is not the America we believe in.
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Amazing
to all the clinton supporters
why did bill bring up jesse jackson in describing obama's win?
i have lost all respect for that man
Obama hit one out of the park with that speech. Couldn't have been better.
Even some Republicans I know say that's vote for Obama.
Ozymandias @ 4:
I mean they'd vote for Obama. Heh.
His speech to me sounded like it was loaded with race baiting.
To bad the Republicans could cross over and vote as "Democrats" for the day.
We might have thought this was a real victory if Republicans didn't cross over.
I Have a Dream 2008. Damn good.
Again, an Edwards supporter here but gotta give credit where credit is due.
disco inferno @ 6:
you mean pointing out that he has wide ranging support from all races, ages and socioeconomic strata is race bating????
nice try hillbot
why did bill bring up jesse jackson???
END THE CLINTONISTA REIGN OF TERROR
Florida governor endorses McCain.
So long Mittens!
Ruthless People @ 7:
have to say, hes got the mlk cadence down real good
Obama wins the love of the Republicans who Hate America and they swoon and sway on the MSM for him because in November - BAM not enough Democrats to vote for Obama.
Who will we get - St McCain? I pray not.
Barack Hussain Obama - Not a chance. Not even as bad as George W. Bush has been will America elect a BHO no matter how good of a speaker he is. He has no substance to sustain.
disco inferno @ 11:
what....you had to bring up his middle name????
you are a disgusting troll
The speech made me afraid for his safety. Can it be that Barack re-incarnates a domestic version of Yankee Go Home! protest warning to the Washington Staus Corporate Quo?
Caroline Kennedy endorses Obama in the New York Times.
"It is about the past versus the future." The Clinton's are the past.
Great speech!
Obama is starting to pick up some more momentum and is leading in delegates. Clinton is a phony! She’s only running because she wants to fullfil some kind of ‘Clinton’ legacy she had most likely dreamed up. Don’t trust her!
I'm a rational person. I am bounded by logic and reason as much as I can be. I have fun and laugh, I'm no Vulcan, but when it comes to important decisions, I think emotions should step aside. Obama has made me feel hopeful, even good about my country. He has created an aura from which I can actually respect and be excited about politics again. Now I know, these feelings will do nothing to confront change. But as long as these feelings do not exist in our current political culture, then nothing can change. It's setting the mood for action. He has shown action in the past, and is basically in line with Hillary as far as positions go. Lets not kid ourselves. As John said our worst is a thousand times better than any Republican. 47% in a poll said they would not vote for Hillary Clinton under any and all circumstances. My mom, who is a moderate-conservative, is supporting Obama. If Clinton gets the nomination, she is simply not going to vote. We cannot sabotage progressive ideals any longer in this country. Of our candidates Obama stands the best CHANCE of taking a sweeping victory. He could get beat, yes, but he is the better bet. And it's all betting. We cannot know the future for certain.
I am a rational American. Obama creates a mood with his coalition that will allow progressive ideals to be logically implemented. Stay positive, stay sharp. Let's push things forward.
c_ray_86 @ 17:
well said
my parents too are moderate dems
they have never voted for a republican their entire lives
but both have said, that if hillary gains the nom, they will either not vote or vote for the republican
it is nice to listen to a politician that makes you feel good about the process
its been 7 years since that has happened
now its onto super tuesday....win baby win
and then....pick webb as your running mate and trounce mccain
You see Bill Clinton riding around in golf carts with Bush senior more often than Bush senior golfs with his own son. That should tell you something right there.
Alright, Obama, you use many words saying you are for change and all of that good stuff. So how about leadership action? When are you going to speak up about FISA, and how telecom immunity is the epitome of corruption in D.C.?
Well, I'm bumming that Edwards is (most probably) out. His message was lost to the historical first viable candidacies of both a woman and an black man. The fucked up thing is that Edwards had a hell of a lot more substance than either Obama or Hillary.
Listening to Obama's speech earlier, I understand the attraction. He speaks in platitudes("
Can we build it?Yes we can!"). But I don't think platitudes will win him New York or California. I wouldn't be surprised if he won California, but I don't think he will. And New York? Never!This race is really gonna heat up on Supercallifragilisticexpialidocious Tuesday. Expect it to stay kinda ugly between the two remaining candidates.
And all that said, ugly primaries or not, we still beat the GOP come November.
disco inferno @ 11:
"hate america" is code for not a schill for the military industrial congressional mediatainment big pharma complex.
although i don't think obama will be the president we need...like kucinich...he will do.
disco inferno @ 11:
Analysis by name and by attributing "hatred of America". Is palm reading to find the best candidate next? Or phrenology?
I don't know where John Amato got his information but I just heard the CNN anchors say that in Obama's speech he once again criticized the Clintons and said the primaries will get more vicious because he's running against "people who will do anything to win."
Well, I guess it's time to cry FRAUD! Clinton better file a complaint and ask for a re-count.
Disco Inferior: You are an ignoramous. That speech was beautiful. Look at the turnout of voters today (for that matter, Iowa, New Hampshire) people are livid and are very frightened about their futures. They are livid because this country has gone to hell in the last 8 years.
THINK before you shoot your mouth off and use some common sense.
I hope there are as many kaleidoscopic flowers and sugarcoated lollipops in his concession speech for the nomination.
marko @ 22:
do what?
Thanks Obama! you just lost the democratic party, the easiest election ever to win. I truly feel sorry for the Democratic Party. They just never get it, do they?? Nice speech, though, too bad most of it will be forgotten by November, when the MSM takes a complete right turn on you, and heads in the direction of John McCain and the Republican party.
The Clintons are the same old politics . A vote for Hillary takes us right back to 1992. We have been there and done that. Do not want to go there and do it again. Congrats to Obama.
The guy sounds like a cult leader.
All these flowery speeches and no substance.
And I wish Obama would not fall into the trap of following the "bipartisanship" meme that the Repubs are trying to set up. That will only play to the benefit of the McCain/Lieberman ticket. He should be reiterating how the Repub politicians in Congress and the White House are going against the wishes of both parties.
Otay @ 31:
By both parties I mean the citizens in both parties.
Though Kucinich was my guy, an Obama/Edwards ticket has a ring to it that I think would make many Republicans guts turn to ice water.
kaT @ 24:
why dont you listen to the speech rather than let the cnn anchors tell you what he said?
and im sorry, but bringing up jesse jackson to explain obama's win speak volumns that yes, the clintons will say and do anything to win
How come every time I hear Obama give a speech, his voice sounds the same? I mean every state Hillary talks in, she seems to take on a different accent. His speeches deliver a message, and he is a very good orator(sp?). Hillary sounds robotic. No passion. Just shrill. Anyway, good speech. Very inspiring.
ABC..Yes we can.... ;)
Truth.
Looks like Hillary's gonna have to get all teared up again...
I hope you got the tail end of this speech. It was truly amazing. I feel like after 8 years of Bush, this is my present.
ConcernedCanuck @ 35:
Thank you for repeating the "shrill" meme. Here's your sign.
kaT @ 24:
I see the Clintons still pay you to troll the blogosphere.
hillbots out in force in this thread
guess we will get alot of that during the next 10 days
Obama did take a swipe at the Clintons early on, but then the rest (and majority) of the speech was outstanding. He'll make John McCain look like the tired old white man he is....with no ideas,no vision and no message except "war, war, war".
Great speech .. he feels the pulse & makes it grow ..
And fantastic job of kicking sHillary while she's down ..
"politics so partisan one can't even give a Republican credit for having an idea, even if you don't think it was a good one .."
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c_ray_86 @ 17:
AMEN!
Straight Shooter @ 40:
Have you heard her speak? And the MSM said Howard Dean gave "angry" speeches. Hell, they obviously must turn her mic down!!
Otay @ 31:
kinda hard to push that point, when the dems in congress are happy to bend over and take it up the ass
and that includes both hillary and obama
ConcernedCanuck@35 Because she's a phony manipulative bitch who will destroy anybody or thing just to win, that's why.
uncle joe mccarthy @ 42:
It's expected. The Clintons have the most expensive corporate political machine money can buy. They are the true professional politicians. No wonder so many want them re-elected. Their supporters don't want change.
Can you get the rest of the speech for download maybe in another part? I want to show the whole thing to my students. It is one for the ages.
ConcernedCanuck @ 46:
Yes, I have heard her speak. And I have "heard" your posts. You live in a glass house.
KyleXY @ 30:
you want wonky for a victory speech....go youtube al gore
KyleXY @ 30:
Are you retarded ? Does he have to speak at the 1st grade level for you to grab any substance? For Christ's sake, use your brain if you have any!
Another good speech from Barack Obama, who is easily (and I say this as someone who has made it quite clear that I believe Hillary Clinton is the best choice for the job) the most charismatic candidate from either party. As always, too much of what he had to offer was feel-good-yet-substanceless pablum (for my tastes), but what really bugs me about the man is his divisive tactics. He accuses 'others' of playing games while vilifying his Democratic opponents like Hillary Clinton, which is quite hypocritical. If Obama meant what he said about the world being nuanced and not black-and-white, then he should be the first to remind his rabid, Clinton-hating followers that Washington experience isn't automatically bad, that corporate experience isn't automatically bad, ad infinitum. But he doesn't do that, thus fuelling the prejudice people have toward older, white politicians (a very ironic prejudice, of course). And while I would love for Barack Obama to become the Saviour of the United States, I don't think he will be able to accomplish nearly as much as he hopes to once he's actually in office - especially after repeatedly flipping off every older, white politician in Washington. Still, with his voting record so damn similar to Hillary Clinton's (and his positions on issues not all that different either), I think the Democrats are in decent hands - regardless of who wins.
They are eager to get at Obama on the right wing blogs. If he goes the distance I hope he improves his debate skills and can better defend his votes and past. Edwards treated him with kid gloves in the last debate, and he still stammered and came off weak. The press is his friend right now and they are hitting Hillary hard, but they will turn on him if he gets the nomination.
Straight Shooter @ 51:
Sorry that realism isn't to your liking. Oh well. It'll be your problem when you get 4 more years of corporate-run government. Are you going to blame Bush?
Shawnmeat @ 54:
??? Decent hands? Are you Republican by chance? They voted with Republicans. Is that what you want? Just say so.
SassySandy @ 29:
Ignoring your implication that Hillary Clinton is exactly the same as Bill Clinton (utter nonsense), would it really be that bad to return to a time of a vastly improved economy, a budget surplus, relative peace, more jobs, better education, better scientific research, better relations with other nations, ad infinitum? The last time Americans voted for Change™, they voted for George W. Bush - twice.
Ruthless People @ 7:
Damn. That's cool Ruthless.
uncle joe mccarthy @ 47:
Well then they could lie about the Dems fighting the Repubs for us! They don't have to personally believe it... ;)
Whoever the Democratic nominee is, I will vote for him/her. I will vote. My heart aches for Edwards, but I will vote. I refuse to be a sore loser. I will vote. I refuse to be turned off by those negative enough to state they will not vote. I will vot the Democratic ticket.
ConcernedCanuck @ 56:
Now you're being silly. I've voted Democratic ever since Carter. I'll vote for Dr. Feelgood if he wins the nomination. I'm sure Obama will show his real face when he chooses Lieberman for Sec. of State or Sec. of Defense, and we see Rahm Emanuel at his side, instead of in the shadows, pulling his strings. Do your homework. Look behind the curtain.
And don't lecture me on Ms. Clinton. I prefer the devil I know to the silver-tongued devil I don't know.
Shawnmeat @ 58:
Ever go to a car show? Ya, those old cars from the 70s are beautiful. Problem was. Somebody had to take the car, spend years babying it, and put a good 10 grand plus into it to make it a classic car. Still doesn't change the fact that originally the car was a piece of shit. Understand? I didn't think so. I remember all the great things in the 70s, but it sure takes some memory jogging to remember the bad things, and then my brain clicks and goes..."OH YA, forgot about that"........be careful what you wish for when you are trying to drive forward while looking in the rearview mirror.
I thought the speech was a bit dry.
-DT
Straight Shooter @ 62:
Ya cuz partisan politics is the wave of the future!!! That way, you never end up with an unelectable buffoon as a leader......oh wait
Jo @ 61:
I will vote the Democratic ticket.
Shawnmeat @ 58:
Shawnmeat, you sound like one of those women who always feel like their exs were always better...and they want to go back to them so much...and then they do and get screwed over again! Nasty, really nasty! Can't you just move on? This is not the 90's, this two-thousand F*cking 8!
ConcernedCanuck @ 57:
No, they did not. Their actual legislative history reads as liberal. They have both voted to protect homosexual civil unions, a woman's right to choose, better gun control, free healthcare, better education - crap, I could go on for a very long time. I urge you to look into their entire voting record, because they are both left-wing regardless of what a small group of very cynical, generalizing yokels say. Mind you, the news rarely focuses on their Senate records as a whole, instead looking at one or two votes - such as the supposed authorization of the invasion of Iraq (the bill required certain elements to be in place and the President ignored those provisions) or their funding of the war (American soldiers, in other words). I don't agree with every single decision either Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton make, but then, I don't need to in order to see them both as competent, strong individuals who do want to see the nation move in a progressive direction.
SassySandy @ 29:
It's precisely this kind of comment that makes me crazy. You don't want to return to the strongest economy we've had in the past 28 years? You don't want to return to a time when we were not at war? You don't want to return to a time when we not only balanced the budget, but left for the incoming president a surplus? Are you folks crazy?
Look at the voting records of Obama and Clinton and you will find that they are almost identical. Now, look at who the media and progressive blogs have given a pass and who has been in their cross hairs?
Give me a break ...
BAC
Jo @ 66:
Yeah, we kind of figured you wouldn't do a Very high frequency Omnidirectional range Test on the Democratic ticket. Although it might drown out some of the bickering.
barbara @ 50:
Most definetly. I understand it takes time to get the video's loaded, but please do update with the entire speach. This was simply amazing.
I don't like the idea of political dynasties so I'm not really a clinton supporter.
while obama is a good inspirational speak I still don't have any idea of what he really stands for beyone "the future"
and... so?
What is his policy platform... where's the fucking beef?
ConcernedCanuck @ 65:
Your cuteness is underwhelming. Do you really understand Obama's background and who has created him? No. You don't. Do some homework. Pay attention. Try to represent your country with some dignity.
Hillary @ 67:
I am starting to appreciate that you are someone best ignored. Your... bizarre analogy aside, you failed to even attempt to rebuke my very valid point that the Clinton administration was good for America. Regardless, it is the year 2008, and Hillary Clinton is running. You brought up the past, when Hillary Clinton stronger than ever in the present. Nothing you have to say is worthwhile. I mean, your car analogy? Are you fourteen?
Judging by the threads tonight, the trolls are out in force attempting a divide and conquer strategy. To bad for them it won't work. ;)
Anybody
But
Clinton
ABC
as simple as 123
ABC no Hillary for the Nominee.
Yeah!
All the pugs I talk to in OC Ca are salivating for HRC.
Otay @ 70:
Otay, I am now a proud fan of yours.
Use this power wisely.
ciu @ 72:
How about calling out the war profiteers, the FISA telecom corporations; Katrina contractors, DICK Chenney???!!! .. the list goes on.
Agent Provocateur @ 71:
I assure you I do know how to spell speech.
clean up aisle 71...
BAC @ 69:
What a bunch of ballonies! Not at war in the 90s? Where were you, in a freaking cave? Somlia, Bosnia, Haiti, Iraq (he bombed the sizzle out of him just he could postpone his impeachment trial, remember that?). Stop drinking the stupid cool-aid for Christ's sake!
I'm not making this up ..
TIME-CNN: Obama's Rout ReJIGGERS the Race
emphasis mine ..
I mean .. is this outrageously racist or what?
Are you kidding? Hillary is even more likely to have Lieberman in her admin and she is best buddies with Rahm. At least Obama will talk with foreign leaders unconditionally rather than scorn, insult, berate, and then finally bomb them as Hillary would do.
And I do prefer the "devil" that I do not know, as at least it will give a chance for something different than the status quo which will bring the American Republic to its end sooner rather than later.
Anyways, it's horrible reason to vote regardless, that is voting for the devil you know.
Straight Shooter @ 62:
TPTB spent millions of $$$$$$$ trying to bring down a twice legally elected president, with high approval ratings.
Do you Obama supporters really, really think that he has what it takes to fight back? Because he gives a good speech?
The rightwing is 100 steps ahead of you, and they chew him up and will spit him out.
excellent speech
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c_ray_86 @ 85:
Oh My
did they(Time) think that was clever?
ciu @ 72:
you should have prefaced your remarks with the following:
"while for some reason, i am able to access the tubes of the internets, i have no fucking clue how to use them"
i suggest you scurry over to obama's website and read his position papers
you do know how to do that....right???
let me make it ez for you
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/
In Obama's speech, he refers to: "They are young and old; rich and poor. They are black and white; Latino and Asian and Native American."
Can anyone tell me why the transcriber decided to leave off "Native American"? Is there any legitimate excuse for that?
hadenuf @ 83:
The answer is yes.
Answer this question: Do you really, really think any of the flabby ass nincompoops that are running in the Republican primary can beat any Democrat? They are 100 steps ahead? No they aren't---they are living a century behind, promoting a bankrupt philosophy. What planet do you live on?
All talk talk talk. What has he done? Not a gd thing!!! I will not vote for that fool. I want a president that WORKS. I don't want talk. Get off your lazy butt and work. We have had a lazy, stupid president. Another Bush not what we need.
He has become the Master of Saying Nothing, the King of Platitudes.
He's not going to do anything about the lobbyists.
Republicans have good ideas?
Get off that Hobby Horse, Obama!
Does anyone know of a site that would allow me to download and save the entire speech? Thanks.
Congrats to Obama. I still have hope in Edwards, but that was a great speech. We don't need a Clinton or a Bush-bot in the House next year.
My goodness, seeems like someone pissed in the Hillbots Cool-aid?
Press is announcing Ted Kennedy endorsing Obama, WILL actively
campaign next week...
Rumors are. Bill called to ask for the endorsing, but mostly
went on a rant about Obama.
Ted asked him to back off...Big Dog said no!
IMHO, Hillary is the front runner still CA and NY are
a long shot for Obama.
But, when Bill make the "Jesse Jackson won SC twice" comment,
He cemented the war...
Hillary is going to play the Latino Card, and win..
Then, go against McCain?
Gee, McCain's immigration stance don't sound so dumb now, eh?
Hillary CAN'T win without LARGE black turnout.....
Bill just kissed off every black vote under 40.
Where have we heard that before? Oh yeah, every time Barack, Obama Superstar opens his yapper. I suspect he will feed the crowd with a couple of fishes and some loaves at his next rally. I can hardly wait. Tim Rice is already penning his next musical extravaganza.
Does Obama's dream for 2008 resonates the American middle class or the Bush doctrine of more wars, more profits for the corporate elitist, and that of the islamic fundies in the middle east.
Since Dubai sheikhdom and Saudis are investing in the U.S., they are likely to dominate the American policies towards their goals.
We have a first Islamic President after Bush squandered the U.S.
The sheeple are the people without brains.
Please remember that Bush platform was "Compassionate Christian," just to win the slumbering republican Christians to vote.
Folks, you are in denial.
The Christian doctrine states that at the end time people are like zombies follow the false leader or one who has a false charisma.
Watch out, folks!
Billy's snide remark about Jesse Jackson was completely uncalled for. It was totally calculated race baiting. Despite the drubbing Hillary took in South Carolina, Bill still does the race baiting. Idiot.
As someone here has already mentioned, I think it's very telling that Billy hangs with Bush Sr. a lot. He should be hanging out with Jimmy Carter.
disco inferno @ 11:
WOW someone can read, lets see Barack Hussain Obama such a strong name, a name that don't carry the ring tone of the old slavemasters name, I think that I can live with Barack Hussain Obama vs George Walker Bush.
Sara@88
Let the record show (or not in this case) that while the people with the most right to said Land of the Free (to be spied apon and terrorized by neocons, and corporate facists), Home of the Brave (come on you brave folks step up to the plate before it's too late), we were once again locked out of the right to litigate through the lack of conscripted evidence.
No wonder the Lakota Nation just recently succeeded from the "Union" due to broken treaties.
Back to the Ghost Dance
Talcott @ 76:
Alas, you are correct! Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding!
Where is ths donate button again here at C&L? I love this stuff, somebody called ME a Republican yesterday. I nearly fell off my chair laughing!
The naive folks, don't you get it, this election is of the MSM and the corporate elitists?
We the people have been robbed of our rights for a fair election.
Our voice is silenced by the electronic machines that sway the votes to the favorite candidate that is designed by the mob.
It is a sad day in America!
bilhelm-X @ 104:
Found it, thanks C&L. You guys rock completely!
Yes We Can!
I keep hearing that Obama has no experience, but the peoples that make this claim clearly don't understand the constitution,or just want to push it aside, Well in the constitution the criteria for being President is to be the age of 35 and older, and a USA born citizen, I also thought you cannot have any felonies but George Bush had that part changed, that is when the Surpreme Court installed Bush into the Presidentcy.
Wonder what would happen to Obama if he lost his speech writer. Isn't it amazing that people give him credit for the fact that he can give speeches written by someone else like he was preaching from the pulpit.
I am more impressed with the fact that HILLARY CLINTON, tho maybe not the speecherfier that Obama is, will get the job done when she wins the nomination. The real people in this country have not spoken yet. Only a bunch of dancing prancing American Idol fans. They are getting the fact that Obama can prance also mixed up with he don't know what the hell to do otherwise.
Look what happened in New Hampshire. THE REAL PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME OUT TO VOTE.
I would love to have all the crooked and the rest of the lies that Hillary Clinton has done to be published. The people with such low forms of osmosis believe anything the MSM tells them. But then the men with all those jelly balls must have jelly brains also.
So if you are some dim wit like Obama who smiles a good smile that's better than someone who know what to do according to some of these posters. Gee lets go grab some homeless guy off the street and put him up...since according to that person who don't need anything else except the MONEY to run like Obama. And why because they know he will be more of a puppet than bush.
The constitution also says that our votes must be counted and not hijacked by the electronic machines.
Get the facts1
"Well, I’m bumming that Edwards is (most probably) out. His message was lost to the historical first viable candidacies of both a woman and an black man. The fucked up thing is that Edwards had a hell of a lot more substance than either Obama or Hillary."
Edwards talks a good show, but his voting record isn't all that hot. The only candidate who actually voted progressive was Dennis Kucinich, and the Mainstream Media managed to torpedo any outside chance he had. I remember the hope and electricity that went with JFK's election. I also remember the CIA trained and funded pipsqueak who murdered him. I just hope he has friends inside the intelligence community. Otherwise, he's toast.
Sany @ 28:
You're funny. So you think Obama shouldn't have run in the presidential primary because by winning he will lose the general election? He has won the most votes. People want him as their presidential candidate... and so far they want him over Hillary... My logic suggests that the candidate who wins the primary will do the best in the presidential election because he/she has gotten the most votes! Enough unwarranted speculation... let the process play out by votes.
Whatever, Obama. I don't care about political divisiveness. When the other guys are f*cking fascists, shouldn't we be divided? Us vs. them, anyone? Or should we all just come to the middle, which by the world's standards still lands us over in the far right, in order to accomplish... what? The equivalent of NOTHING MUCH-- which adds up to maintenance of the status quo.
Obama doesn't stand for anything.
I would discount the primary results. In the national election, the people that voted for Obama in the primaries, will sway to the right giving the victory to the republicans.
Rove has a great strategy. You are once again duped.
Obama is going to lose the national election.
EZ - In the national election, the people that voted for Obama in the primaries, will sway to the right giving the victory to the republicans.
Huh? Sorry to be obtuse, but... why? People who vote for Obama in the primaries are choosing between Hillary and Obama, albeit we may be disappointed those may boil down to being our only choice for a Democratic candidate. But while I will vote Obama over Hillary (being a white woman, btw), I will vote either of them over any Republican. I've had enough of Republicans in the White House, as has a goodly section of the American population, not just the left. Your 'argument' doesn't hold water.
KKKaT @ 24:
You're dense, even for a racist. It's all pretty much right before your eyes that you are lying. Don't attribute your hatred to anyone else, please.
EZ @ 114:
Thank you, great prophet. We have been warned! I will slaughter three goats so the great one continues to provide you with essential foretellings of the future!
I listened to the speech. He didn't say a god-damned thing! Nothing! A bunch of rah, rah.
Obama is an empty suit. He's tall, and he yaks, but he has nothing to offer. All I ever hear from him is about his religious beliefs and how he plans to "work with" the republicans. If he thinks republicans will ever work with any non-republicans, he's dreaming.
Clinton or Obama, Clinton or Obama, ... I despair. Neither one is any good, and neither one can beat McCain.
What a waste. I'm voting for Edwards in the primary, and probably Green in the general.
GMFORD @ 3:
Are you nuts?? That speech was absolutely devoid of meaning. None whatsoever.
OBAMA IS AN EMPTY SUIT!! A NOTHING!! A BIG ZERO!!!!!!
nonny mouse @ 115:
rubyinparadise @ 113:
and that's the crux of the problem. Obama and Billary are LIEbercrats. hillary helped sabotage Ned Lamont and Obama supported LIEberman.
LIEberman heads a committee that refuses to oversee the contract travesties in NOLa, where 200,000 people remain displaced and neither BO or HC say or do shit about it. Let's not even talk about Harry Reid.
so I then get to choose between a repug who openly hates everyone except the richest, whitest people and a dem who won't do anything to oppose that hatred.
TALK ABOUT HARD CHOICES
Thankfully DIEBOLD will be helping me sort it out![snark?]
If honesty is a problem with some, Obama is not your candidate. Go ahead and vote those who claimed to have no weaknesses.
If you want partisan politics, Obama is not your guy.
If you want health care for all but dose not promise you empty mandates, which could not be enforced, Obama is your guy.
If you want an honest leader and one who will bring the red and blue states together, Obama is your guy.
Marge @ 108:
:lol:
but. the REAL PEOPLE voted on DIEBOLD!
I'll send him another bill tomorrow. G'Obama and to hell with the status quo, it could not get any worse than it is today, here is the audacity of hope that it gets better. I think even a half-black guy is just a little more in tune with humility than most of the opponents. Notice now, I haven't said "anti-Hillary" (well maybe insinuated it a little?) and no I won't vote for a Republican (although that sure riled up the all-Caps treachery typists yesterday! LOL!!!!); if Hillary wins the nomination I may consider voting for her but for the sake of my conscience I will probably not vote at all. Sorry folks, thats called personal conviction; I can't hold a candle to your's either so don't even try (or bother) with mine. Life is like a box of chocolates and I will never pick that one again.
The Democratic Party is history.
I have never seen a party so driven by media buzz in my life.
Th Arizona Republic states:
We believe Barack Obama has the best chance of moving Washington and the nation beyond the poisonous partisanship of recent decades. He appeals to independent voters and Republicans, in addition to members of his own party. His promise to unite is convincing.
Fierce political divisions have made it impossible to enact needed reforms in such areas as immigration policy, Social Security and health care. In addition to making domestic challenges untouchable, the partisan antagonism has made it more difficult to deal with international issues - from trade to terrorism.
The "poisonous partisanship" and "fierce political divisions" are almost exclusively the work of the Republicans. There is no point in reaching out to them. On election day, Republicans will pull the lever for whomever the Republican nominee is. That is why they are successful. Blind obedience. They mark in lockstep. They hold their noses and vote.
If Obama wins, they will take every opportunity to smear his goals and sabotage his agenda.
He should be convincing more Americans that the Republicans are utterly destroying this country and the Constitution. Pretending that we can all get along reflects serious misjudgment of the party of Reagan and Bush.
There's no point in trying to be conciliatory with a bunch of pit bulls.
EZ @ 114:
Are you a one man conspiracy machine or what? So far in this thread you've suggested:
1 - Obama will be an islamic president.
2 - Obama will turn out to be just like bush.
3 - Obama is the anti-christ
4 - Obama is only winning cause the MSM wants him to so he can get defeated by the republicans.
5 - Obama is winning because of electronic voting fraud.
6 - Obama is only winning because people are foolishly falling into one of Rove's genius, hopelessly complicated plans; too intricate to be understood by most mortals.
AND MORE!
Seeing how as most of these theories directly contradict one another, you should probably just pick one and stick with it.
uncle joe mccarthy @ 18:
THAT is an intriguing thought.
CalGeorge @ 125:
....
He should be convincing more Americans that the Republicans are utterly destroying this country and the Constitution. Pretending that we can all get along reflects serious misjudgment of the party of Reagan and Bush.
There's no point in trying to be conciliatory with a bunch of pit bulls.
Paul Krugman regularly points out that very same thing.
CoIntelPro @ 128:
Paul Krugman regularly points out that very same thing.
We need to throw out as many Neocons as we can and marginalize them---permanently. Why hang with a party with a bankrupt philosophy and known track record of corruption and failure.
Obama is in the position he is because the left blogosphere has led a relentless attack on the Bush administration.
Obama is reaping the benefits of this effort but has decided he can't win without marginalizing the people who care the most and fight the hardest for the Democratic party.
It should be "Yes we can, if Sinatra SAYS we can". Cause Frankie calls the shots for all us guys.
disco inferno @ 11:
I am far from being a worshiper of Obama, but really...grow up.
Why do I get the impression that Obama is blaming the Democrats for lack of bipartisanship and the disasters of the last sent years? Maybe, I am just an old sore loser who needs to be put out to pasture so that youth can run this country. Do we really believe that the spirit of joining together will make the rich give up their tax breaks and will make insurance and pharamceutical companies just decide to do the right thing? I don't think that JFK just called Nikita up and said why don't you just move those missile bases out of Cuba? Is this the real world? Just remember, Obama has never won a real race and The Chicago Tribune who knows Obama well endorsed someone else. Unfortunately, the youth of today don't know any history and thus will only learn by the new mistakes that they make.
I'm sorry, I didn't think this speech was particularly uniting and uplifting. Some obligatory jibes at Bush - but many, many vicious jibes at Hillary:
"a status quo beyond any particular party (...) right now, that status quo is fighting back with everything it's got (...) with the same old tactics of divide and distract"
"Make no mistake about what we’re up against. We are up against the belief that it’s ok for lobbyists to dominate our government – that they are just part of the system in Washington."
"(...) that says your ability to lead as President comes from longevity in Washington or proximity to the White House"
"against the idea that it’s acceptable to say anything and do anything to win an election"
"we’re also up against forces..."
Forces...?? You're up against a candidate, Senator, not forces.
I'm sorry, Obama-fans, you can tell me that this was a good speech, even a brillant speech. But it was not a constructive speech. Obama just told us that Hillary is a racist DINO in bed with Bush, saying and doing anything just to get elected. Nice.
Now, I know, many of you believe that. Be my guest. But don't give me that happy positve uniting "I have a Dream" crap. That was just your ordinary partisan bitter stump speech. Period. I have a hard time seeing him concede to Hillary if need arises. If Obama keeps it up like that it'll be just as hard for his crowd to support Hillary as it is the other way around.
(And make no mistake about it: I'm an Edward supporter. And Billary brought some of it on themselves. I'll concede that.)
frenchfries @ 134:
whahahaqhahahahahahaha
this is a very funny post
cleo @ 133:
I understand this sentiment entirely. In fact, my largest concern with Barack Obama is that he'll get into office and face a job far tougher than he was prepared for. It was Paul "The Man" Krugman who recently pointed out that Reagan was hardly the energizing figure Obama says he was, and moreover, Barack's economic policies could certainly use a heck of a lot of work. While I do like Obama and wish him the best, he really needs to shed this sort of naivety, which can only come with one thing - the oft-dreaded job experience.
framecop @ 124:
Stick a fork in the GOP it's done.
Is that all, Uncle Joe? I guess it's not just your man that is lacking some substance...
frenchfries @ 134:
You're a funny character! I think you eat too many French fries, they might start to get to your head!
This is what we will get with Obama (Harper's Magazine, November 2006):
... Obama has taken an approach to his policymaking that is notably cautious and nonconfrontational. “Since the founding, the American political tradition has been reformist, not revolutionary,” he told me during an interview at his office on Capitol Hill this summer. “What that means is that for a political leader to get things done, he or she ideally should be ahead of the curve, but not too far ahead. I want to push the envelope but make sure I have enough folks with me that I’m not rendered politically impotent.”
This is the Obama who votes with the credit card companies. The Obama who was in favor of a bill that "sought to curtail the ability of plaintiffs to file class-action lawsuits against corporations."
The Obama who "voted no to Senator John F. Kerry's proposal to remove most combat troops from Iraq by July 2007."
Nope, wouldn't want to push that envelope too hard.
CalGeorge @ 130:
What are you on ? Seriously dude, drop the pipe!
nonny mouse @ 115:
Nope. People are choosing between Hillary, Obama, and Edwards.
I choose Edwards.
bmw 528 @ 129:
We need to throw out as many Neocons as we can and marginalize them---permanently. Why hang with a party with a bankrupt philosophy and known track record of corruption and failure.
Are you guys serious ? You sound very puerile! You're always gonna have to work with the members of the other party to get ANYTHING done, unless you have a sweeping majority in both chambers of Congress. You guys know that, right ? The president has no super-power...
me @ 119:
Or maybe it is you who have no brain!
rubyinparadise @ 113:
Grow up! Your level of thinking is simply...sad!
This guy is simply electrifying as he travels all over this country with his message of hope and inspiration and change from the old status quo.
We have to come to terms, that we have to leave the old tactics, that got us into the mess we are currently in, and move on, for the sake of our young people, who are coming out in the huge numbers, none of us has ever seen.
Everywhere he goes, he is picking up crowds of people waiting in mile long lines, to hear him speak and he does not let you down.
I think the fact that he is not a seasoned politician, works so well for him, because we are all crying out for change from the old leadership in this country.
In spit of the nay sayers, his age also works well because he is just right to be able to get into the job, roll up his selves and clean up the huge mess, left behind, by this current administration. (and he will have a huge mess)
He has the capacity to change the mind set of people from all walks of life, giving us the courage and the will to look into our inner, selves and more important help our kids who just don't understand all of the trials and tribulations of the past, move on.
Great Barackstar -- how about some real change??? How about you stop writing and giving speeches on the campaign trail and go back to the Senate and give an impassioned speech about retroactive telecom immunity and how it is an insult to the Constitution and the rule of law. Or about how passing it is a continuance of Bush getting whatever he wants. And then stand up with Feingold and Dodd and filibuster!
Bush is a dictator and the Democrats are apparently just fine with that. "It's called IMPEACHMENT. AND YOU DON'T WAIT" -- DENNIS KUCINICH
ATTENTION CONGRESSWEASELS: GO TO THE BATHROOM AND LOOK FOR YOUR BALLS. WHEN YOU FIND THEM, GO BACK AND IMPEACH THE BASTARD. IF YOU DON'T FIND THEM, PUT YOUR TAIL BETWEEN YOUR LEGS, RESIGN, AND GO HOME! LET SOMEONE WHO CAN FIND HIS TESTICLES TAKE YOUR PLACE IN THE SENATE AND GIVE THE PEOPLE BACK THEIR CONSTITUTION.
Lots of good comments on here, and lots of really ignorant ones. Better than the racist infants commenting on the WaPo articles I've seen about SC today.
Two points:
1. For those who say "Obama's a good speaker but a good speaker doesn't make a good fighter," speaking is how you fight in politics. Great things in government happen not because Preston Brooks whips out his cane, but because Thomas Jefferson opens his mouth and dips his quill in ink. Oratory is the loaded weapon of government and politics, and Obama has a bazooka.
2. For those who say voting on inspiration and ideology gave us Bush-- Bush didn't inspire. Bush lowered the bar. Bush was the guy you could have a beer with in a backyard barbecue. Bush was the guy who made you hear Shania Twain and think you were a cowboy. Obama is the guy who makes you hear the soundtrack to Empire of the Sun and think you're an American in spirit, not just in flag-waving. And Obama can say "nuclear" correctly, for the record;)
3. For those who say "yeah he can give a speech but where's the substance?" I suggest you check out his website. You clearly have internet access, and you clearly have enough free time to be posting on here, so you have time to check out his website where he has clear, specific plans. If you haven't figured it out already, the Obama campaign is about Americans becoming active participants in the political process, not passive viewers of Fox News who let media tell them who to vote for. So be active, check out his website, read his books, listen to his speeches, review his voting record. But please stop complaining about Obama not standing for anything if you're too lazy to do your homework. Hell, you don't even have to put down your beer while you read.
yeah, it was three points. It's Sunday and I don't like math on Sundays ;)
move along, nothing to see here :)
Case @ 148:
"Obama has a bazooka."
No, not really. Obama has speechwriters. Sheesh.
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