Lou Dobbs Rails At White House Incompetence For Funding Nuclear Technology That May End Up In The Hands Of Iran
By Nicole Belle Thursday Feb 07, 2008 2:01pm 
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Lou Dobbs is outraged, outraged, I tell you!, at yet another example of lip service by the Bush Administration of caring about national security while doing something entirely opposite. No offense, Lou, but get in line.
Apparently, our tax dollars are going to fund a Russian nuclear lab (why?) that is in turn, working with the Iranians. The subtext is that the Russians are helping the Iranians develop a nuclear weapons program, NIE Report be damned. However, it would be interesting to know why the US continues to fund nuclear technology development in Russia.
PILGRIM: The rationale for the Department of Energy program was to pay the salaries of Russian scientists who were left without incomes after the Cold War. The thinking was to keep them on the payroll so they wouldn't peddle their nuclear expertise to rogue nations like Iran. [..]
DOBBS: This administration, everyone keeps talking about the legacy of this administration, well their legacy is mind-boggling, unbelievable, breathtaking, incompetence and stupidity. That is going to be the legacy of the Bush administration. Thank god that Congressman Dingell and Stupak are leading the way on this issue. I mean my -- how in the heck can a secretary of the Department of Energy, Samuel Bodman, even get up in the morning and think he has done anything but waste some of God's protoplasm if he can't run that department better than he is.
Transcript of this segment below. Full show transcripts available here.
DOBBS: I suspect you're not going to believe at the outset a startling new twist in Iran's ambition to develop nuclear power and weaponry. Unbelievably, the U.S. government has been funding a Russian institute that is working with Iran on nuclear projects. Another clear failure of the American government to protect our national security and it's absolutely another statement as to the incompetence of our State Department and our foreign policy. Kitty Pilgrim has our report.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
KITTY PILGRIM, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The U.S. Department of Energy is funding two Russian institutes with about $4 million and those institutes help Iran with their nuclear program in Bushehr. Evidence is found in Russian documents obtained by the General Accountability Office. Page after page shows various projects and one page reads "integration of plant-shared equipment at Bushehr Nuclear Power Plant is in progress". An Energy Department official at the House Energy Committee hearing today had no answers.
SAMUEL BODMAN, ENERGY SECRETARY: I have not had time to fully investigate but I have directed the principle deputy of the NNSA, Bill Ostendorf to look into those questions and to report back to me.
PILGRIM: He also added Bushehr is a commercial nuclear power plant not military.
REP. JOHN DINGELL (D), ENERGY & COMMERCE CHMN.: How, Mr. Secretary, do you then rhyme that statement with what the State Department said when they said this. Iran uses Bushehr as a cover and a protection for obtaining sensitive technology to advance its nuclear weapons program.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: With respect to the Bushehr reactor, my understanding is that this is something we -- that the president has spoken to President Putin about, that the proliferation issues have been discussed and that reactor remains under IAEA safeguards.
PILGRIM: Nuclear nonproliferation experts say Russian help with Bushehr can be used in other projects.
HENRY SOKOLSKI, NONPROLIFERATION POLICY ED. CTR.: What the Russians are actually helping to do is to bring a large reactor online which can make scores of bombs worth of plutonium per year and we're hoping that the Iranians won't divert any of this material.
PILGRIM: The rationale for the Department of Energy program was to pay the salaries of Russian scientists who were left without incomes after the Cold War. The thinking was to keep them on the payroll so they wouldn't peddle their nuclear expertise to rogue nations like Iran.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
PILGRIM: Now the House Energy Committee can't believe that writing on the Web site only this administration would complain about proliferation in Iran as part of the President Bush's axis of evil and then finance it with American taxpayer dollars -- Lou.
DOBBS: This administration, everyone keeps talking about the legacy of this administration, well their legacy is mind-boggling, unbelievable, breathtaking, incompetence and stupidity. That is going to be the legacy of the Bush administration. Thank god that Congressman Dingell and Stupak are leading the way on this issue. I mean my -- how in the heck can a secretary of the Department of Energy, Samuel Bodman, even get up in the morning and think he has done anything but waste some of God's protoplasm if he can't run that department better than he is.
PILGRIM: Well, you know, just the answers today were astonishing. I don't know, we'll check.
DOBBS: Unbelievable. The arrogant, indifference and utter incompetence of this administration at every level. It is pervasive, it is shameful and the fact that the American people have had to put up with this and continue to do so, it's -- it's just incredible. That is just an unbelievable story.
PILGRIM: Yes, it is unbelievable. There will be more -- new developments, I'm sure, on this.
DOBBS: Any thought to, perhaps, changing the direction of policy at the Energy Department?
PILGRIM: They were defending the policy. They say that Russian institutes that participate in Bushehr are not disqualified from these funds. They were actually defending this policy today.
DOBBS: It -- when I suggested there was a change of policy, I didn't for a moment go into some sort of Polly-Anna lapse and assume that the -- anyone in the Bush administration be intelligent or sensitive enough to think about a change. But Congressmen Dangle, Congressman Stupak showing some considerable presence and, frankly, some forward looking consideration. Are they demanding they change?
PILGRIM: Yes, they are.
DOBBS: Kitty Pilgrim, again, terrific reporting, really a lousy story for those who care about this country. Thank you
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Loooooooooooou!
So it'll be ranted about once and then disappear from the media. No one in America will think this is a serious issue because it won't be getting reported. THat's the true sign of an American idiot, someone who still believes that whatever is truly important will be forced down their throats on MSM. This is modern propoganda, this is a crime against our human will to think freely! Thank you, Lou Dobbs-- but will you ever speak up about this again??
Frank Dufek @ 2:
lou never lets sleeping dogs lie...when he finds an issue (like illegal immigration) he sticks with it
The US government wants the Iranians to get their hands on the nuclear technology, that way they will have a bona fide reason to attack them.
Just like the when the US sent Saddam his chemical/biological cocktails and then used them as a pretext to attack.
All we need is a trumped up story of babies tossed from incubators, and a US Ambassador telling the leaders that whatever you do, re: cross-drilling, is an internal affair and not of consequence to the US interests.
What I don't understand is why Lou doesn't run for office. It isn't enough to bring these topics to the forefront on CNN he has to bring it everyones' attention even those that watch Fox News
If the U.S. was raking in big fat profits from Iran's nuclear programs instead of Russia we wouldn't even hear a peep.
Uncle Joe Mccarthy @ 3:
I hope Lou sticks with this one and gives illegal immigration a rest for a while.
Lou should admit that the repuglican scheme of using the government budget as a cash trough has been such a rousing success that the Dems want in on it too.
L.A. Confidential @ 6:
Oh, but the US - MOST DEFINATELY IS - raking in huge profits from the fear created by Iran's peaceful nuclear program.
Just in a roundabout way. Plus all the side benefits of trashing the Constitution/BOR, the prepositioning of legal precedents for martial law, Blackwater overseas operations - as well as domestic expansions, the never ending warrantless wiretaps...and on and on.
"Apparently, our tax dollars are going to fund a Russian nuclear lab (why?) that is in turn, working with the Iranians. The subtext is that the Russians are helping the Iranians develop a nuclear weapons program.."
Someone please tell O'Reilly that our own government is involved in a process that is ending up in business with Iran. It wasn't that long ago that O'Reilly aired a report attacking GE, the parent company of O'Reilly's arch enemy NBC (otherwise known as Olbermann) because they are allegedly doing business with Iran.
Sounds like it's time for O'Reilly to do a report on what our government is doing with respects to Iran too (as in O'Reilly hold the Bush administration accountable). Eh, don't hold your breath.....
Can't stand Lou Dobbs. The guy should run for national office and see if his sh!t can stick. Otherwise, just stfu for crying out loud.
"...waste some of God’s protoplasm "
quote of the week!
but the real meme is
IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN!
IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN!
IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN!
All IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN! IRAN!
All the time!
seagull.girl @ 7:
why should lou stop talking about illegal immigration?
is it not a serious issue?
Lou Dobbs? The same Lou Dobbs that called the Anti-Defamation League a joke? How about you guys stop making posts about this Bill O'Reilly wanna-be? This guy is pure scum. A racist thug.
I recently watched a documentary on Putin and his followers where had a youth rally organized by his cronies and they were chanting "Death to America" and running around with a pig draped in an American flag.
In subsequent interviews they blasted away at Democracy as a form of government and were spouting old style Soviet rhetoric and praising Putin's authoritarian tactics that he has used to crush the Russian democracy movement and send its leaders off to mental institutions or assassinate them outright.
Now its not hard to find anti-American rhetoric in foreign countries these days, but this was different... it wasn't based on Bush's foreign policy or the war in Iraq, but all of the memes from the "cold war" days.
It boggles the mind that we would be funding a Russian nuclear research facility engaged in information sharing with Iran. Bush has very definitely followed an agenda that deliberately has destroyed our government with rampant cronyism and staffed it with incompetents and continued to make the argument that government doesn't work... the ultimate "I told you so scam."
But make no mistake about it... his agenda is much larger than most people realize. The pieces to the puzzle haven't become clear yet... and I hope they don't for our sake, but the one below is the scariest of all:
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/FBI_program_alleged_to_prepare_businesses_...
Bush and Cheney are prepping for something big and its isn't good for the American people.
Truth B Told @ 9:
No the U.S. isn't raking in huge profits from this. The Military Industrial Complex of which about 2 Million people work in full time is raking in huge profits but the rest of the country is out of the game economically.
Sometimes, I like Dobbs. He right on the money...until he goes of the rails about immigrants and calling China, "Communist China." Since when are we supposed to put the style of government a country has before their names? (Technically, China isn't a communist state--they have a government).
Lou 'windsock' Dobbs, the weathervain(sic) of CNN...
Well, I have to give it to Lou Dobbs. He at least has the courage to say it like it is, again and again. To bad the sheeple of this country aren't more like him. I imagine if they were we'd be rolling out guillotines into the streets today. Oh, but for a Bastille to storm...go Lou, GO!
(Just thinking...remember Walter Cronkite? All ol' Walter had to do was look at the camera with a serious face and tell the truth and opinions changed, policies changed, Presidents quivered in fear and even refused to run for re-election. Whatever happened to that kind of integrity in the press? At least we do have Lou, and Dan Rather is still out there somewhere crying in the wilderness...but, Jeezus i'd love to have Walter back.)
In an exchange with a guest, Dobbs says, 'The ADL is' -- the guest says, 'They're a very well-respected voice.' Dobbs says, 'Not by me.' The guest says, 'The Anti-Defamation League?' Dobbs says, 'They are a joke.'
According to the ADL, the organization "was founded in 1913 'to stop the defamation of the Jewish people and to secure justice and fair treatment to all'" and "fights anti-Semitism and all forms of bigotry, defends democratic ideals and protects civil rights for all."
Dobbs rants on this failed adminitration everyday.
He reports what the other corporate media will not.
L.A. Confidential @ 17:
There is no difference between the Military Industrial Complex and the US Government/Shadow Government.
Eisenhower explained as much.
I can't stand this pompous jerk, but I have to admit '...he done anything but waste some of God’s protoplasm' is a creative insult.
getalife @ 22:
Dobbs spent the majority of his career as a "Rah Rah" cheerleader for the corporations on his financial news show. Today his show is a gimmick, lapped up by Wal-Mart shopping rednecks who think Mexicans are the reason the U.S. can't find bin Laden.
Uncle Joe Mccarthy @ 14:
Illegal immigration is a serious issue, and I don't think Lou should stop talking about it. But...there are no shortage of issues for which Lou Dobbs, or any commentator, should use their bully pulpit. Our tax dollars funding a Russian nuclear lab that is in turn, working with the Iranians, is a very serious charge. If this is for real...Rasputin is correct...Bush and Cheney are prepping for something big and its isn’t good for the American people.
Truth B Told @ 23:
Thats what I was talking about. About 2 Million people are prospering or "have a secure job" in this country MIC.
The rest of us are eating shit.
Dobbs has become such a stark raving lunatic that this news story should have been reported by the last remaining CNN journalist Dr. Sanjay Guptah, who's gonna believe ol' Lou?
All hail the true American Patriot Congressmen with the courage and integrity to call for impeachment hearing against Cheney. Why is the list so short? Everyone needs to contact their representatives in congress and urge them to support this. My representative, Julia Carson, recently passed away, or there would be 1 more name on this list.
The following members of Congress have joined as signatories to my letter to Chairman Conyers in support of Cheney Impeachment Hearings:
(*= member of the Judiciary Committee)
Baldwin, Tammy, WI, 2nd *
Capuano, Michael E., MA, 8th
Clarke, Yvette D., NY, 11th
Clay, Wm. Lacy, MO, 1st
Cohen, Steve, TN, 9th *
Farr, Sam, CA, 17th
Grijalva, Raúl M., AZ, 7th
Gutierrez, Luis V., IL, 4th *
Kucinich, Dennis J., OH, 10th
Lee, Barbara, CA, 9th
Moore, Gwen, WI, 4th
Moran, James P., VA, 8th
Thompson, Mike, CA, 1st
Towns, Edolphus, NY, 10th
Woolsey, Lynn, CA, 6th
Wexler, Robert, FL, 19th *
Wynn, Albert Russell, MD, 4th
Note these Patriots, and know they are the true representatives of the People.
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Why doesn't anybody ever tell some truth? Iran has the permission of the IAEA to build nuclear facilities for civilian energy purposes. This means the meme about a nuclear Iran being dangerous is another "SCARE" tactic, aka "FEAR" management of the people. But no one mentions the illegal Pakistani nukes or the still missing AQ Khan, protected by Musharraf, Bush's best-est buddy in this war of terrorism, or the illegal nukes in Israel and the promotion of apartheid, ethnic cleansing and continued occupation of Palestine.
Russia contracted with Iran to assist the building of these facilities. It was approved by the IAEA. However, the USA's lack of respect toward peace and peace initiatives gives licenses for propagandists to rant and rave about evil Iran's intent to bomb Israel off the map(another lie propagated by USA) ergo, any nuclear facilities = evil.
Now, the USA doing business with Russia is good business practices for Corporations that like to outsource their products so as to tighten up that "bottom line", aka profits. After all, profits matter, people don't. More so, agreements and laws matter less to these corporate fascists.
Lou Dobbs is an agitator, NOT a journalist. Journalists pull from factual events, agitators pull perceived facts out their ass. One of those facts Lou pulls from that deep dark recess is this meme, "A nuclear Iran is a dangerous Iran." Now, how is that journalistic?
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Competance in the Bush administration is seen from a different perspective than the practical view of competance most of us hold. In the Bush administration and Republican party competance is based on how much money have you made for yourself and your friends regardless of the method or ethics. Competance means how competant were you in destroying the goverment you serve in. With Bush and the Republican Party everything is convoluted.
on a related note:
A WHISTLEBLOWER has made a series of extraordinary claims about how corrupt government officials allowed Pakistan and other states to steal nuclear weapons secrets.
Sibel Edmonds, a 37-year-old former Turkish language translator for the FBI, listened into hundreds of sensitive intercepted conversations while based at the agency’s Washington field office.
She approached The Sunday Times last month after reading about an Al-Qaeda terrorist who had revealed his role in training some of the 9/11 hijackers while he was in Turkey.
Edmonds described how foreign intelligence agents had enlisted the support of US officials to acquire a network of moles in sensitive military and nuclear institutions.
Among the hours of covert tape recordings, she says she heard evidence that one well-known senior official in the US State Department was being paid by Turkish agents in Washington who were selling the information on to black market buyers, including Pakistan.
The name of the official – who has held a series of top government posts – is known to The Sunday Times. He strongly denies the claims.
However, Edmonds said: “He was aiding foreign operatives against US interests by passing them highly classified information, not only from the State Department but also from the Pentagon, in exchange for money, position and political objectives.”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article3137695.ece
what is lou dobbs' take on this? oh wait, silly me, the american msm NEVER picked this story up...
i would take dobbs more seriously if he was a real journalist, instead of a denture-slipping news mannequin. his "outrage" would mean more if he didn't spend the majority of the '90's defending outrageous CEO compensation
jp @ 31:
ahem, the Democrats colluded with this administration. From the moment the Anthrax arrived and the snipers in DC were loosed, the Democrats played ball.
Uncle Joe Mccarthy @ 14:
It's disingenuous to call it illegal immigration, attempting to pin the issue on those seeking opportunities to carve out a living while NOT enforcing the laws that hold employers accountable for hiring undocumented workers. The problem is not those crossing the boarders for they have always sought to carve out a better life, least our ancestors were illegal too. The problem lies with the employers who hire undocumented workers, thus undermining the American worker seeking to carve out a better life.
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this guy doesn't have a clue that the reason the americans are paying those russian salaries is so those nuclear scientist won't go off and work for other countries eager to develop nuclear technology. duh.
Stamp you little feet Lou! Stamp you little feet!
Che G @ 28:
Guptah is a paid shill for Big Pharma and an enemy of all who want a one-payer health care system.
"Lou Dobbs Rails at Whitehouse"
Don't worry Shrub, Windsock'll go off the rails again...
"Lou Dobbs Takes Pentagon to Task for Failed Iran Hostage Rescue"
Truth B Told @ 4:
Exactly, how can they mess up and tell everyone they have nukes, if they don't have them. That would be so, Iraq.
k de paree @ 35:
You mean the Russians wouldn't pay them?
Lou don't you get it yet? How could we bomb them for WMD if we didn't sell it to them? Just like Saddam.
The Republican mantra is sell anything for prophit including NUCLEAR SECRETS.
BFD - after the show Lou hopped into his Audi R8 and went home to be served dinner. Dobbs doesn't give a rats ass about this stuff as long as it makes him look good ranting about it.
Acting Patriotic @ 41:
The MO of the military industrial complex in this country has been the following, ever since the USSR went the way of the dodo:
1. Sell useless military equipment to the US army
2. Re-sell said uselsess military equipment as surplus to 3rd nations
3. Justify future useless military equipment because 3rd nations now have updated capabilities due to their purchasing of the surplus crap we sold them to begin with
In every step, they make money. There is literally no business that gets away with selling both a cure that is too good, that they have to introduce a disease, that requires another cure.
Max-1 @ 34:
what came first the chicken or the egg?
Todd @ 45:
The brown and the red people were here first, so they came first when compared to the pale faces who took over the place and made them illegals in their own land. Ain't that a bitch?
I am sure, that those "illegals" can trace their family trees to this continent for eons before the Dobbs decided to take that ship for the new world.
Bud @ 43:
I doubt that Dobbs can manage manual transmissions, and he is too fat and lard assed to fit in the R8.
I am willing to bet he drives some obnoxious big honking American SUV, you know, and escalade or some shit like that. Afterall, we all know that you need 2 tons to carry an asshole.
One thing is for sure, and I agree on: There is no doubt that the Dobbs take care of their domestic chores themselves.
Max-1@30 is spot on. Iran has every legal right to pursue commercial nuclear power as signatories to the NNPT - which Israel, India and Pakistan are not signatories to (though North Korea is, as well). And they have an excellent record of adhering to IAEA oversight, unlike, say, Israel, India and Pakistan (North Korea's record is spotty but better than I, I & P).
The plan to pay Russian nuclear scientists to keep them from trafficking their knowledge on the open market goes back multiple administrations, to when the former Soviet Union was in complete disarray and there was genuine concern that those scientists might need to pay their rent and feed their families. And to date it seems to have been a good idea, since the only nuclear scientist we know for a fact has been so-trafficking is... Mr. Khan, from Pakistan.
So for Lou Dobbs to mount up on his hind legs (and odd image, to be sure) and lambaste the Bush regime and the DOE over this is pure bullshit and anti-Iran hysteria mongering of the basest kind.
Every time you see, hear or read anyone taking umbrage over Iran's civilian nuclear power program, you should immediately don your anti-propaganda warfare suit and head for cover. Iran is a threat to the United States or anyone else in the same way that bathing twice daily is a risk to your health.
And Dobbs is a blithering fool every time he opens his jowls and spews forth.
Tyler Durden @ 46:
it's a spiral - dipshit employers who want cheap labor, exploit people. People who cross the border illegally risk their lives by putting themselves in dangerous situations. Where do you want to stop the spiral? Back in the 1500's??? or at the border or at the place of employment (ie dipshit employers)?
Thats the situation - don't try to make it "bigger".
Yeah, you tell it Lou only next time, how about joining reality just a little more expeditiously, huh? By the way Lou, you are pretty much nothing but a fuck-up, okay? So don't start taking yourself too seriously, nobody else does!
Hey Lou, tell me how you feel.....
Let it out
Max-1 @ 34:
as far as i can tell, dobbs has indeed been calling for stricter employer enforcement
tell you what...if obama does win the election, maybe he can stop the drug war and open all those cells for the corporatist employers
Tyler Durden @ 46:
the vast majority of illegals can trace their family trees where?? the vast majority speak spanish....their forefathers came over on boats just like mine
OMG. What is it going to take to impeach Bush? Really what more is it going to take?
Truth B Told @ 4:
Ding, ding, ding!!! My thoughts exactly!
Deja vu.
Anyone who thinks that nuclear proliferation from commercial reactors isn't a real danger is naive. The nuclear industry is tightly connected to the military industrial complex. Both are a tremendous waste of tax money, and they compliment eachother.
if you are in favor or a more nuclear world, then vote Obama. He is owned by the nuclear industry and is one of those telling the lie that nuclear energy is an important part of fighting climate change. The entire nuclear cycle, from mining to waste treatment, produces massive greenhouse gasses. Conservation, efficiency, real renewables - those are the real solutions to a cleaner atmosphere. Maybe the DOE should be pushing wind energy projects abroad... If you are not with me on this a suggest that you do some research onthe history of tremendous government waste on nuclear energy.
So many of Mr. Dobb's rants are off the rails that I barely pay attention anymore.
Lou Dobbs: Outrage for Hire
Make no mistake, the eyeranians are out to kill us all.
This is not incompetence! This is capitalism!!! Anytime there's a buck to be made, America's corporations are right in there at the State Dept. making sure its lobbyists keep that State dept. wheel greased for their little hayrides to anywhere in the world where a profit may be awaiting.
I have a question: Now that DHS has deputized more than 23,000 representatives of private industry and instructed them to shoot to kill in the event the Bush/Cheney administration declares martial law, how might these deputized CEOs use their new status as federal agents to assist the international nuclear arms industry to continue to generate increasing profits for them?
I have never posted on any site before, but I was reading through the comments left regarding this report, and found one idea that has yet to surface (for this particular report). In the closing segment of the report, in which Lou Dobbs has the approximation of a 13 year old's hissy-fit, he 'rails' on the Bush administration regarding incompetence. Heck, that's the title of the post!
The way this story is being portrayed even by this 'leftist' site, is just a big blank check to this administration and to the next. I must say that in any double-blind examination of the 'incompetence' that has been displayed over the last 7 & 1/2 years I think any rational human being would, by now, stop blaming it on incompetence. At every moment of 'incompetence' of this administration, this president, there have been concrete laws broken, & oversight forgotten. Past oversight, past ethics, past US law, and on into whatever area they choose. Be it torture, be it spying, be it huge amounts of money flowing into a war that has yet to receive the funding.
If you were to approach these 'mistakes' in a rational way you would conclude that ALL of them were anything but mistakes. How can it be a 'mistake' when the people making them stand to benefit on such a large scale, and have had zero accountability? Now maybe I'm being a bit cynical, but I don't think this idea of incompetence came from Lou Dobbs or CNN, or anywhere but the desk of the president. If these 'mistakes' were on purpose to elicit a certain response, that would make the guise of 'incompetence' such a master stroke of political maneuvering BECAUSE THIS IDEA IS UNCHECKED IN OUR MEDIA. So slap the hands and move on, there's more 'mistakes' to be made on our behalf. Keep thinking GW is an idiot. Keep marginalizing. Keep writing a blank check. Our discourse has become exactly what these people want it to be.
"Unbelievable. The arrogant, indifference and utter incompetence of this administration at every level. It is pervasive, it is shameful and the fact that the American people have had to put up with this and continue to do so, it’s — it’s just incredible. That is just an unbelievable story." Lou Dobb's - making my point for me.
Once the taco eaters start taking your jobs you will be bitching too.
Frank Dufek @ 2:
So it’ll be ranted about once and then disappear from the media. No one in America will think this is a serious issue because it won’t be getting reported. THat’s the true sign of an American idiot, someone who still believes that whatever is truly important will be forced down their throats on MSM. This is modern propoganda, this is a crime against our human will to think freely! Thank you, Lou Dobbs– but will you ever speak up about this again??
Lou hammered the Dubai Ports thing for weeks and weeks. I believe the reason that the deal fell through for these Arabs to take control of our ports management was directly due to Lou preaching about it everyday. The UAE called CNN and told them to shut him up.
I so wish he would run for President.
Kodiak911 @ 62:
exactly. there has to be an awakening to the truth that what has been perceived as incompetence is anything but. most people play politics at the tic-tac-toe level, if they are even remotely interested, but the elites and their apparatchik play multi-level chess. (Zbigniew Brzezinski - a so-called leftist - and the Grand Chessboard for example)
And guessing from your moniker, I know where you might stand on false flags.
One thing is for sure, and I agree on: There is no doubt that the Dobbs take care of their domestic chores themselves.
Actually, their kids are into show horses and guess who gets to clean the stables?
lou never lets sleeping dogs lie…when he finds an issue (like illegal immigration) he sticks with it
Especially if his rants improve his ratings.
missmarple @ 67:
You know, I heard he was into animal husbandry too...
'til they caught him at it ;)
Too bad that Dobbs did not name the two Russian institutes. In 2006, I wrote a lengthy post at the TPM Cafe about Curt Weldon's involvement in a crooked deal involving his cronies and the DOE program to retrain Russian nuclear weapons scientists. My post was followed up a story in the Philadelphia Inquirer:
Philadelphia Inquirer
By Mark Fazlollah
11/27/06
"Weldon-backed-antinuclear-venture-falls-short"
Nov. 27--The plan was promising: train Russia's nuclear scientists to make computer software -- helping world peace and, maybe, making money at the same time.
U.S. Rep. Curt Weldon, with old friend John J. Gallagher by his side, presided at a 2001 event announcing what was billed as a major step in stopping the spread of nuclear weapons.
"Hoping Software Will Help Keep the Peace" was the headline in the magazine Science.
The federal government has spent $1.4 million on the project, which has fallen short of expectations -- training far fewer Russian scientists than expected and failing to develop marketable software.
And an Inquirer review raises questions about the oversight and screening of these taxpayer-supported business ventures.
A U.S.-funded trade group that helped put together the deal said Gallagher would provide "programmers with significant intellectual talent and professional experience." It described his firm as "a high-tech information service."
It wasn't. In fact, it wasn't even a legal company then and apparently had no employees. Its address was Gallagher's law office on Market Street in Center City. And a Gallagher partner had a federal fraud conviction.
"This national security project is a good value for the American taxpayer," said Bryan Wilkes, a spokesman for the Energy Department unit overseeing the project.
Wilkes said that there was no evidence that public money was mishandled, and that Gallagher's firm got none of the money.
Neither Weldon nor his lawyer responded to requests for comment.
The deal was sponsored by a nonprofit called the United States Industry Coalition, which specializes in these Russian-American partnerships. Weldon has backed federal funding for the group.
Gallagher, appointed to the board later in 2001, is now chairman of the coalition.
According to the Energy Department, the original partner was supposed to be the Cyber Technology Group of Wayne, headed by Rocco Martino, who has worked in computing since the 1940s. Martino said Gallagher and Weldon helped sell him on the idea, though he said he never formally agreed to join.
When Martino was diagnosed with cancer, Gallagher said he stepped in to take his place. On Oct. 2, 2001, a month before he was selected for the coalition board, Gallagher established a company just for the occasion: CTG Software Inc.
Martino said that was news to him: He said he never knew Gallagher kept on with the project until he spoke to an Inquirer reporter.
Gallagher's new partner, Neil Godick, was involved in Russian business ventures. He also had a criminal record, a 1991 conviction in a federal wire-fraud case.
With CTG Software established, federal money started flowing. No one screened CTG Software. The Energy Department and the coalition each said that was the other's job; both say they've since tightened their reviews.
Had they known all the details, officials said, the project probably never would have been approved. Gallagher said he never found out about Godick's record until years later. Godick did not respond to a request for comment.
Gallagher said he contributed $35,000 worth of legal work to the venture.
A year after the project started, Gallagher dropped out. He said he wasn't needed. Luxoft, a Russian software development company, ended up hiring about 50 scientists and helping find jobs for 120 others -- far less than the 500 projected.
Contact staff writer Mark Fazlollah at 215-854-5831 or mfazlollah@phillynews.com.
There must be more to this story--something involving illegal aliens--otherwise Lou Dobbs couldn't have been in full outrage mode.
We'll agenda driven dobbs is good at connecting a whole lotta Dots , By going from Russian Scientists taking U.S. secrets to Iran launching nukes at the U.S. Let's start with the worst case scenario or the big myth , Iran is Not going to attack the U.S. , they are not suicidal , besides , Iran can nuclear technology from many sources , including A.Q. Khan , that somehow , mysteriously passed off Nuclear Technology under the collective noses of the CIA , Pakistani Intel . , Mossad , all watching Pakistani Nuclear program for years .
Since the Bush admn. can not prove any nuclear weapons program, they and other fear mongers like dobbs, go directly to some unprovable theory , Iran intends to launch Nukes the day they get them or " give them to Al Qaeda " and from Russia directly . Dobbs is NOT to be trusted .
And criticizing Bush at this point in time , takes no courage at all , it only advances more aggressive actions against Iran , regurgitating this contrived issue of Iran , being a " threat" to the U.S.
Frankly these agenda driven issues , like China being a 'military threat " , make Dobbs look as if he's reading PNAC , which stated goal by them and NEOCONS , is to economically , militarily and politically cut off for the rest of the world .
A. he lies by omission , by not stating the U.S. spends MORE on its' military budget ,than all other countries combined or close to it . The only threat is a threat to Global dominance by this new blatant, hegemonic militarization of the world . From Africom U.S. HQ , sending more troops to Africa , to separating Ukraine from Russia, to Missile "defense system" in Poland .
The United States is creating a military WEB, that encircles Russia , China (Japan , is prodded to being more militaristic by U.S.) They both KNOW this, that's why they are having joint military exercises , that's why Russia is sending Naval ships to Syria and please it's NOT BLOW BACK , it's a predictable reaction when ones regional influence is being threaten and the fact Russia and China had its Oil contracts destroyed by the Bush Admn. in IRAQ , after the illegal invasion , is more proof .
Things that make ya go Hmmmmm?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7234817.stm
yeaaaaaaaaah lou fuck some shiet up! mr. dobbs tells it like it is and no he's not a racist sam you amnesty loving whore. why dont you go suck juan mcamnesty's dick cuz he's the only one who wants to hear your bullshit you fuckin douche.
HELLO.
The nuclear facility in question bears the name Bushhehr Reactor.
'Bush' ehr.
They named it after BUSH.
Rather interesting.
bushs corrupt war mongering admin outed covert CIA operative Valerie Plame, whose organization, Brewster Jennings, monitored WMDs development in Iraq and Iran, thus undermining the U.S.'s ability to prevent nuclear technology from falling into the hands of the very 'terrorists' they refused to protect by leaking her identity as political payback for her husband's (Joe Wilson) exposing their LIES about ficticious links between saddam and niger in attempts to purchase non-existant aluminum tubes, as well as their lies about any connections between Iraq and Al-Queda.
Bushs lies thus constitute war crimes, and his entire administration is guilty of crimes against America and humanity.
They will be held accountable.
by the way to all of you who think lou dobbs is a racist: his wife is MEXICAN AMERICAN...dumbasses
"I suspect you’re not going to believe at the outset a startling new twist in Iran’s ambition to develop nuclear power and weaponry"
The truth or more neocon propaganda? sigh..
Dobbs is....sad. I mean, I agree with him in this case, and sometimes he does have some intelligent things to say - but then he just turns around and starts being a retarded asshole every time someone mentions the Mexican border.
Wisconsin@57: Nobody is saying nuclear power is a good thing or that civilian and military nuclear programs are not tightly coupled in most countries (though not in all - Japan has no military nuclear program but a considerable civilian one).
What we are saying is that Dobbs is fear-mongering by singling out Iran for his vitriolic ranting. As long as the world recognizes a legitimate non-military use for nuclear energy and a country pursues it's nuclear activities according to the protocols laid out under international law (NNPT) and monitoring (IAEA), what right does a blowhard like Dobbs have criticizing what the Iranians do, particularly after the most recent NIE clearly stipulates that the Iranians haven't been doing anything sinister for years and we have no idea if they were EVER doing anything sinister with their nuclear program?
The Iranian government is no shining example of freedom and democracy, but I'd take their recent history of not launching illegal wars against other countries over the U.S. record any time. Indeed, the world would be a lot safer place if the U.S. behaved more like Iran and less like the U.S.
I undertand your hatred to Dobbs, but "get in line"? behind who? With Obama and Clinton Nuclear Power is BACK on the table.
living-abomination @ 78:
ahh. the poet.
SCOT @ 81:
Haha - hey, i'm not a poet, but at least i know it.
Now if Dobbs could figure out that Mexicans are human beings, not some sort of invading alien race with leprosy, i would feel obligated to try to come up with more wit than "retarded asshole". Of course, I would fail, but I would try.
I'd switch from Democrat to Independent and vote for Lou if he ran for president in a second! Lou is right on the money in nearly every issue, including illegal immigration.
This wouldn't be an issue if the US hadn't let Israel get nuclear weapons first.
But then, this wouldn't be an issue if the US hadn't overthrown the Iranian democracy in 1953 just to get cheap oil.
What I'd like to know is why are we paying the salaries of Russian nuclear scientists for when the Russian economy is booming? The Russians are up to their asses in revenue from their oil reserves, they're black mailing Europe threatening to cut off their natural gas pipeline every couple of months and Putin is threatening and arms race with the US?
Mean while we are up to our eyeballs in debt from Bush's wars and our infrastructure is crumbling, bridges falling down, the whole south east is still a disaster from Katrina, NOLA's dikes are still in sad shape, Tennessee and the rest of the south east have just been devastated by massive tornadoes.
WTF!
Uncle Joe Mccarthy @ 53:
I am going to begin this caveat with the statement that I believe the country desprately needs immigration reform, and I believe that the current state of things screws over "the little guy," whether they are U.S. citizens of any shade, or whether they are the ones who are sneaking in here to pick produce for shit pay.
*Having said that* I am sure you meant well, but I am also sure that somewhere my Huastec ancestors who were living along what is now the border and intermarrying with the Spanish before pretty much *any* of the Mayflower passengers were so much as a twinkle in their respective Daddies' eyes, may very well be rolling their eyes and begging to differ with the insinuation that all the ancestors of Mexicans and Mexican-Americans came to this continent on ships from good ol' Spain. ;)
I have heard a statistic a long time ago which said that as much as 90% of Mexicans can eventually trace themselves back to an Indigenous tribe. How accurate that may be I don't know, but this is simply what I have heard...
At times like this I can actually like Lou
Annaleigh @ 86: I am going to begin this caveat with the statement that I believe
Whoops, please excuse my temporary dyslexia, I meant to say "I am going to begin this statement with the caveat that..." :)
"God’s protoplasm"
Dobbs' protoplasm opines about God.
Annaleigh @ 86:
That's not immigration reform. That's SOCIAL reform, and it doesn't start by demonizing the poor who are not citizens.
NAFTA destroyed the N. Mexican economy, and that's an easily-demonstrated fact. A great number of poor Latinos have been driven to El Norte to survive, in the last ten years. It's a bump on a porous border migration that is straining US resources -- to the profit of those MNCs whose ag products have destroyed the small farms of N. Mexico.
Long before NAFTA, there has been a migration of Latinos for 500 years. Lou Dobbs and the America for White People patriots may not like the fact, but in ALL THAT TIME there hasn't been a SINGLE terrorist attack across the Southern border. Not one. Oh wait, there was one, when Polk sent troops into Mexico to take the border states.
Closing the border has the effect of forcing migrant workers to move in, making the problem worse. Instead of migrant workers coming in and doing the crop cycle and GOING HOME FOR LA NAVIDAD, they have to stay through the winter, taking the scarse jobs from poor local residents (if they can get them).
The wrong diagnosis of the problem leads to poisoning the patient. The real purpose? The hegemony of white culture, and the political advantages in abusing scapegoat cultures.
Lou is nearing being called a "Cut and Running Terrorist sympathizer" By Condi.
Take my advice Lou, Do not accept any invitation to go flightless bird hunting with the Vice President.
Trust me on this one Lou................................
Paul in LA @ 90:
I am agreeing with you on this...I don't think I made myself too clear. My biggest concern is that because of the race-baiting by the wingnuts when it suits them, nothing gets accomplished. People ignore the impact that NAFTA has on Mexico's economy, and how it eventually finds its way into affecting the local poor. They would rather demonize the people coming over here for "ruining" our country, when really it's NAFTA, it's corporations, and entities such as big agribusiness, also (this is a biggie) the Rethugs who use this situation for political points by riling up the racists in their ranks, and misinforming others.
There was a speech I read sometime back, by the current president of the United Farm Workers, which predated all the crap that started in '06, that mentioned that Congress was interested in extending the posibility of citizenship for illegal immigrants who serve a certain amount of time in the military. The idea was being bandied about in recognition of the fact that some of the earliest casualties in Iraq were soldiers who had been in the U.S. illegally, and still weren't legal at the time of their service. But, as soon as popular opinion of the war went downhill, it was time to rant and rave about those damn eeellegals ruining our way of life because it was at least a temporary diversion for the Rethugs... A brother/cousin of a couple friends of mine was also among the earliest casualities in Iraq, and his AP obituary made a huge gushing sentimental to-do about his hardworking farm laborer parents who came to all of his high school and college football games, no matter how exhausted they were after a day in the fields and who may or may not have come here under the best of circumstances. Yet now some of these same people would spit on his parents, and tell them to "go back to f**king Mexico!"
I live in the Central Valley of CA...Ground Zero for the battle of this, if you will. I am from humble origins, grew up with people who I knew were here illegally. In fact, I was actually taken in as a kid by my paperless neighbors during when our neighborhood was without natural heating for several weeks, and my father, being very ill, needed to have the lion's share of what heating we did have in our home. I never forgot that, and I also never forgot Pete Wilson's bullshit, as well I will never forget what's happened over the last two years. The stunts pulled by the political party of vipers and their talking heads make blood boil.
And thanks to the kind of crap the Rethugs have ensured that people like my compassionate neighbors are now back in Mexico due to having given up on the legalization process, despite their best efforts. And people will continue to be demonized for their poverty while Americans just as or almost as poor will go right along with it never realizing that they should be angry at their political party instead...
Paul in LA @ 90:
You're right about NAFTA and it effects, in fact the situation in Mexico was far more dire than you suggest. There were 2.2 million Mexican farmers driven off there land by the torrent of cheap corn from the US and the flood of cheap goods from china destroyed hundreds of thousands of Mexican manufacturing jobs as well.
How ever on the issue of attacks on the border, while they may not be "Al Qeada" there are plenty of terror attacks across that border from the Drug Cartels in Mexico who are beginning to rival the Columbian Cali Cartel in size and brutality.
They have turned Nuevo Laredo into a virtual ghost town and come across the border and murdered US law enforcement officers. There have been several hundred incidents of them having uniformed Mexican military assist the smugglers and have engaged in fire fights with US Border Patrol agents.
The governors of Arizona and New Mexico declared a state of emergency because of this and it wasn't hard to find hundreds of news stories about the attacks.
Your diagnosis of the problem doesn't measure up to the facts because you assume that illegal immigrants are the only ones coming across that border... and they are not the only ones.
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N08405786.htm
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2007-03-01-drug-wars_x.htm
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/20/border.agent.killed/
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4857114
Ummm. Did anyone see this? The NIE report was a load of partisan garbage. Iran has been and will continue to develop nukes. Any apologies from the left?
WASHINGTON — The director of national intelligence is backing away from his agency's assessment late last year that Iran had halted its nuclear program, saying he wishes he had written the unclassified version of the document in a different manner.
At a hearing yesterday of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, the intelligence director, Michael McConnell, said, "If I had 'til now to think about it, I probably would change a few things." He later added, "I would change the way we describe the Iranian nuclear program. I would have included that there are the component parts, that the portion of it, maybe the least significant, had halted." http://www.nysun.com/article/70818
The new yort times has the same quote but naturally buries it down in paragraphs 12-17. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/06/washington/06intel.html
Joshua Lee Friday @ 94:
Apologies from the left? No, because saying the NIE report was a load of "partisan garbage" and citing some extremely vague comments about language in the report doesn't change anything.
"partisan garbage" is a pretty stupid accusation though, considering both Director Michael McConnell and Principle Deputy Donald Kerr were nominated by George W. Bush. So if it's partisan garbage, then it's coming from republicans (well, actually pretty much EVERYTHING done by republicans in the last 20 years or so is partisan garbage)
“If I had ’til now to think about it, I probably would change a few things.” He later added, “I would change the way we describe the Iranian nuclear program. I would have included that there are the component parts, that the portion of it, maybe the least significant, had halted.”
Did you see the word 'change' in the Intelligence Director's quote you moron?
Incompetence? No way. Just an excuse for Shrub to attack Iran.
I miss the days when guys like Dobbs were the face of the Republican Party. You might disagree with them on policy, but there was no question that their loyalty was to the country--not Wall Street. They were trying to do the right thing, but had different ideas on how to go about it. And they were at least *competent*.
Nowadays the GOP is a weird mixture of brainwashed lunatics, religious fundamentalists, and con-men. They're all loyal to their PARTY, never the country or the Constitution.
Fuck the racist Dobbs.
Joshua Lee Friday @ 94:
Ok lets say Iran is developing Nukes......so what? Did you know that Israel has nuclear weapons and has invaded a weak country less than 2 years ago? Why not place sanctions and attack them? Hey Britain has nukes, I heard they attacked a defenseless third world country not too long ago, maybe we should invade them?
There are many countries much more dangerous than Iran, which has never aggresively attacked another country. Why has the United States continued to threaten and involve themselvs in Iranian affairs for decades? How about a novel idea- JUST LEAVE THEM ALONE AND FOCUS ON THE BENEFIT OF OUR OWN COUNTRY FOR ONCE.
Given that Bush has an Executive Order that makes him Dictator-In-Chief in the event of a national emergency (and yeah, he gets to decide what exactly IS an emergency), it seems pretty obvious that he and his cabal don't give a flying fuck whether or not Iran has "the bomb", whether or not Berzerkastan is blowing up people, or ANY of that stuff.
Either way, he wins. Either way, his oil cronies are making more money then even PNAC dreamed possible. Either way, Pelosi STILL won't move to impeach the criminals in the White House.
I hate it when I turn on CNN for news and see this self-absorbed guy pushing Hysteria on his unsophisticated viewers. oh well ...
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