Bill O'Reilly: "I don't want to go on a lynching party against Michelle Obama unless there's evidence...
By John Amato Tuesday Feb 19, 2008 1:31pm
I got a tip on this yesterday and passed it along to Media Matters. Michelle Obama has been attacked over a recent comment she made by the right wing the last few days about being proud of America. She was targeted as being unpatriotic even by McCain's wife. Well, you knew it was only a matter of time before "lynching references" would pop up when discussing Obama's campaign.
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O'Reilly: "I don't want to go on a lynching party against Michelle Obama unless there's evidence, hard facts, that say this is how the woman really feels"
In a discussion of recent comments made by Michelle Obama, Bill O'Reilly took a call from a listener who stated that, according to "a friend who had knowledge of her," Obama " 'is a very angry,' her word was 'militant woman.' " O'Reilly later stated: "I don't want to go on a lynching party against Michelle Obama unless there's evidence, hard facts, that say this is how the woman really feels. If that's how she really feels -- that America is a bad country or a flawed nation, whatever -- then that's legit. We'll track it down."
Just recently a reporter from the Golf Channel apologized to Tiger Woods for using the word "lynching" when talking about his play on the tour which resulted in her suspension. An editor was also fired.
O'Reilly has a history of racially charged remarks. He took a lot of heat for his callous description of the behavior of African Americans eating at Harlem's Sylvia's restaurant not too long ago. Will Juan Williams swoop in to try and deflect criticism from BillO this time too?
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Frist to lynch Billo !
While this ain't the best choice of language, I think we're missing a perhaps larger issue here, which is that BillO appears to be inclined to defer rash judgment and grandstanding here.
Certainly not what I would expect from someone who typically takes material out of context to suit his point. Mrs. Obama's point (which I heartily agree with) would seem to present ample opportunity for blowhards to flip out.
And that, friends, is a good thing to see.
Told ya.
So who's calling for HIS job. Where y'at Sharpton?
It's sad that we're in the 21st Century and this country
still behaves like it's the 18th Century. Grow up America!
when oLIElly comes out as a black person,
thenhe can talk about "evidence"...
Turk, the big issue is that the blowhard is a biggoted ass. He has a history of being wrong about his facts and even when it's proven he refuses to admit it. Such as his statement that American troops shot German prisoners at Malmady. The exact opposite is true and when it was pointed out to the moron he still would not recant his statement.
"..unless there's evidence"
*sigh*
Or... possibly LOL? or even WTF??
nah...
...*sigh*
(disclaimer: nothing will happen to billo as a result of this)
lynching: the illegal execution of an accused person by a mob...
this type of hate-speech, and its history in slavery and with racist groups like the KKK, does NOT cause the reichwing to recoil in shame and embarrassment. No, in fact it is the opposite, they seek this type of discourse. this is one reason WHY the reichwing flocks to billo. subtle, racist, hate-speech is music to the ears of many a republican.
Today on the Tom Hartmann Show... Tom and a caller discovered that the audio of the Michelle Obama clip has been edited .... someone tried to edit out the word "really".... as in really proud of my country....
So is anyone surprised that Pravda News is a white supremacist/bigot network? It's the network all the rednecks watch. The good thing? The country, well the sane 75%, have tired of it all. Faux News will be a voice screaming in the wilderness come general election time.
Jesus wept, he doesn't even bother to hide it anymore, just out in the open, untrue.
I don't think America is a bad country, but is certainly flawed. It has many substantial flaws. Of course, in Falafel's world, this country is perfect, and the people who are trying to destroy it are secular-progressives.
O'Reilly is going to pay for this one. Where is it that it's comfortable to use these references almost on a daily basis from O'Reilly and others? O'Reilly is not stupid. He knows exactly what he is saying. Pathetic and disgusting for this point in time.
This is nonsense.
It took 400+ plus years of slavery on the North American Continent for a man like The Right Reverend Doc Marty King Jr. to finally emerge.
Michelle Obama was all of 3 years old when he was assassinated in April of 1968.
It's been another 40 years since King's death for a man like Michelle Obama's husband to come along that even has a serious shot at the Presidency like he does.
All the wing-nuts out there that have anything to say about her comments about having Pride in America today because of her husband need to take the above set of facts into their heads before they open their retarded little potty-moufs.
They can all up and bite me.
~Nyc
"...but once we get that evidence, I got a rope handy, just sayin'..."--B.O.
This is going to be a LONG eight months.
But that's the only kind of party BillO enjoys, a lynching party (as long as falafel is on the menu, too).
Just where do you keep that white sheet anyway?
The big issue is the use of lynching. He could have used any term but he picked that one. Like Hannity he will get his "white" ass all upset that a black man and woman would have an opinion that is different then to thank us "wp" of America for giving them a chance.
Injustices never require evidence.
Wait till the Right Wing really gets going after Obama.
It will be obvious then this isn't the Country any sane person would want to live in.
15 John F A Says: “…but once we get that evidence, I got a rope handy, just sayin’…”–B.O.
This is going to be a LONG eight months.
Only took me 7 to be born.
OMG they called Petraeus Betray Us
But I'll talk about lynching future First Lady's.
ysbaddaden @ 21:
My thoughts exactly. God...this is going to be ugly.
L.A. Confidential @ 19:
Bill O didn't want to start a lynching just yet....
Not till his place at the head of the mob is secured. The man has always used inflammatory language. He does it so often it's hard to even tell if it's calculated anymore. Doesn't really have to be. It's just who he is.
And because of that HE SHOULD NO LONGER BE ALLOWED TO BE ON THE AIR. Not even on Fox.
Does Olbermann have to hammer him even harder and more often for anyone to notice that Bill O is a hatefilled mofo?
" . . and I don't want to take this rope here, make it into a noose, walk over to that tree right there and . . "
L.A. Confidential @ 19:
I shudder now at some of the displays. I can't wait.
O'Reilly... he's from the asshat tribe. Looks good on ya, Bill(shit)!
Yes, her original statement that she was "really proud". Being that no one but Michelle knows her true feelings, people like BillO and all the rest should just STFU.
As for the language BillO used, you don't need a secret decoder ring to figure out that message.
Will the Falafel Man lose his job or get suspended the same way that commenter on the Golf Channel did when she made that "lynching" comment regarding Tiger Woods?
Michelle Obama is not Tiger Woods and she'd kick O'Lielly's ass so far he'd come back and say "Thank you, ma'am, may I have another?"
ConcernedCanuck @ 26:
Billo's just stoking the crowd. Warm up Act.
I'm preparing for the most sickening stuff imaginable. This countries Lost It. COMPLETELY.
Susie @ 17:
I suppose he could have said "witch hunt"...
Anyone shocked by this?
Anybody recognize this from 1992 when it was Hillary being described as a "militant woman"?
This country is just like any other. The backwash will always have a strong current of racism and misogyny.
Bill O'Reilly is an asshole, and Snoop had it right.
As for Juan Williams putting Bill O in check, naw, because he'll be too busy fetching this SOB some M---F---ing Iced tea from Sylvia's.
L.A. Confidential @ 19:
Let them spew their bile and hate, lies and spin. Americans are sick of the Repugs, Rove, Gonzales, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Rice, et al, and of the dying in Iraq and the rising cost of living and the hypocracy of the religious right. Their swiftboat style of campaigning is going to render their party irrelevant for years to come.
Thanks "Dubya"!
“I don’t want to go on a lynching party against Michelle Obama unless there’s evidence, hard facts...So until someone out there can slap some pictures of Mrs. Obama frowning and find a quote with anger or one of its synonyms in it I'm just gonna havta keep the rope in my closet with the falafels. Now if Michelle would like to come over and clear this up personally, I'd be happy to do that, but not over the phone, because that could be recorded and edited out of context, which can be very expensive...So this is an invitation to Michelle Obama to come on over for falafels, bring a girlfriend if she wants, we'll get to the bottom of her anger with hard facts. There's your choices Michelle - hard facts and falafels or the noose. I report, you decide."
On another right-wing rascism note, Captain Ed refers to Obama as using a "Rope-a-Dope" technique today.
ConcernedCanuck @ 26:
At this point, who cares what the wingnuts think? Bring it on, a$$holes!
And let's not forget Billo's offense at my people -- The Chosen People.
ysbaddaden @ 21:
Nice point. Seems like the MSM has no ear for the faked outrage of the right-wing.
Michelle is about 40 years old. All her adult life has been under a Bush or Clinton regime. The Bush clan sure didn't raise the pride index in America and even under Clinton there were many times that one might not have felt real proud of America and its government. (it was a difficult time when Monica and other girl friends stuff hit the news.)
I'm with Michelle on this one - this is a great time to feel proud about being an American.
Now with FOX and idiots like O'Reilly on the scene, pride in the MSM is a at an all-time low.
The Political Junkie @ 32:
HAHA!!
goatsage @ 33:
We'll see. Judging from the past 2 elections I'm not so confident anymore.
We know that 30% will be eating every spoonful of this crap and 45% will not stand for it in any way, shape or form. This leaves the 25% in the "middle" to either save or doom this country.
Sorry folks, it might be a coin toss..
On the Michelle Obama "gaff", she didn't choose her words carefully, but it seems her statement has been edited. I'm listening to the Thom Hartman show right now, and it appears that the word REALLY has been edited out of the audio of her statement. Check these links. 1st one with the audio edited out:
http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/02/19/michelle-obama-is-proud-of-her-country/
Here's the actual audio:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ffGpYcTu5GI&feature=related
It is also worthwhile to note that Patrick Buchanan said (multiple times) on MSNBC's election coverage that the Republicans were "going to beat Michelle Obama to death with this issue." If the Republicans want to get hysterical about hyperbole, perhaps they should look to their own first.
MSNBC also edited the tape of Michelle Obama's speech to remove the word "really" ("I'm really proud of my country") which was very interesting because on election night they had a discussion of how that word "really" changed the meaning. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/23251926#23251926 Look to the end of the tape. The edit was well done, but compare to the original.
Also, Newsweek is running a very disrespectful column about "The Obama delusion." The media elites are shaking in their boots.
Since Obama grew up a black man with a white mother, I imagine he has dealt with worse than O'Reilly along the way. I'm not worried about Obama, he can hold his own and I'm guessing Michelle can as well. All the stuff that's going to be thrown at them will probably be just considered more ignorance from ignorant people. Michelle and Obama are so far above O'Reilly they can't even see his smarmy face.
How can I say this in a classy way...........Bill O' Reilly isn't fit to suck the shit from Keith Oberman's asshole.
Jymn @ 35:
Isn't that clever.
Next he will be "tap dancing" around the issues.
God I'm soooooooooooo sick of this shit.
Election 2000 Redux 08
SC Declares McCain the Winner
Lay your bets
No wonder this is the network Hillary Clinton wants the democratic party to reestablish ties with.
On Morning Joe, Mika and Joe talked about this either yesterday or the day before. Mika made a point of emphasizing that Michelle said, really proud. They played the video on the show and you could hear and see her say it.
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Bill-O proves everyday that being a bigot on air makes you money.
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So if he finds evidence, then he's going to call to have her murdered?
Will he murder Michelle himself?
I say let them bloviate.
Already McCain has Bush's endorsement (that's not a plus and could well turn out to be an albatross hanging on his neck).
So let McCain be the "pro-lynching" party's candidate.
That will get him lots of votes.
I see a campaign in which the GOP cuts its nose off to spite its face because in spite of the overwhelming evidence that people want a change in this country (even conservatives), they won't be able to meet the challenge. They are strait-jacketed by their ideology and bound to their Bushmafia/IronTriangle/MurdochSmearMachine masters.
They are not going to be able to wage a relevant campaign or even to put forth a candidate suitable for the times.
fwffavvg @ 46:
ooh... "classy".
Oh well, in principle You are correct.
I'll be proud of the country when the snake oil salemen/women and charlatans are in federal prison. Hold the Neo-cons and their slack-jawed, knuckle dragging supporters accountable. Prison or exile should be the only options.
I'm no fan, but he took the correct position.
Nothing to criticize here ... move along.
THE RIGHT WING OR WHOEVER ..... EDITED MICHELLE OBAMA'S SPEECH... THEY TOOK OUT THE WORD "REALLY" IN HER ADDRESS.... AS IN REALLY PROUD OF MY COUNTRY.... GO TO C-SPAN.ORG TO GET THE REAL VIDEO AND YOU WILL FIND THE TRUTH....
Stick a fork in her. Check out this poll... Hillary is toast.
Michelle Obama speech was edited by Drudge and Played on Fox...and reported by AP...
Ph0en1x @ 43:
Dang, you beat me to it. I heard it too and was shocked to hear the "hiccup" in the audio. It was really apparent she said something and that it was nipped.
Dave Anon @ 58:
The Dem Party is toast I'm beginning to think.
Obama and whole crew.
Michelle Obama's being "proud" or "really proud" of her country is only an issue to the xenophones, ubber nationalists, nativists, know-nothings and the media whores. In their eyes what ever the government does or whatever it's citizens do is just jim dandy because after all this is the nation of exceptionalism, God favors the U.S. of A.
Honestly, how does this guy still have a job?
Pasta @ 63:
Get used to it this is the New World Order
army193 @ 59:
If that's the case, somebody gots some 'splaining to do. And it ain't Ms. Obama.
This is a rant I wrote for the Internet Movie Database, about the critic's of Michael Moore's Sicko, but I feel compelled to share it here.
Most GOP/Republican's/Neo- con's don't care about anyone but themselves.....
Most members of the GOP/Republican's/Neo-con's are incapable of thinking for themselves. They are inhuman conservative scum who think that everything in the USA is just fine and dandy because they have no brain and the idea of someone like Moore questioning the problems in the USA is insulting to the low forehead morons like yourselves who think it’s wonderful that…
A: In the USA, you can buy a stockpile of guns and ammo and shoot up a school, as we have seen in Virgina and Illinois most recently, but you start screaming about the 2nd Amendment when the government starts talking about gun control. Understand this meatheads, the 2nd Amendment was put in place not so that you can overcompensate for you’re small genitals but so that you could rise up against your Government should they try to take away your rights or trample on you’re civil liberties. Well, I haven’t seen much uprising while Bushco. Has been tearing apart the Constitution and the Bill of Rights but then you’re probably to busy polishing your knob, er, I mean your gun collection.
B: Your President (actually he’s not really the President since the vote was rigged in Florida by Katherine Harris who counted the votes and is a friend of the Bush Family, of whom Jeb Bush is George’s brother and Governor of Florida as well as the members of the Supreme Court who were placed there by George HW Bush when he was President and handed his son the White House), has used 9/11 as a modern day Tonkin Incident to start a war with a country that had nothing to do with 9/11. The Bush administration has also used 9/11 as an excuse to torture people and illegally spy on United States citizens.
C: That you’re Government can spend hundred’s of billions of dollars on illegal wars with other countries to steal their resources, assassinate the democratically elected officials of those countries to install dictators who will serve the USA’s interests, while 50 million of you’re citizens are uninsured and the rest (well not counting the richest 1%) are screwed out ofthe money they put into a system in good faith.
It's really pointless arguing with most of you because 90% of Republican’s are sociopathic pathological liars (like Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and the rest of Bushco.) who are incapable of caring about anyone but yourself and wouldn’t piss on someone if they were on fire. You will try to counterpoint me with lies and then pile more lies upon lies and if you can’t browbeat me by screaming at me (because Republican’s think they win argument’s by yelling the loudest or cutting of their mike) then you’ll call me a Liberal because your kind (like Limbaugh, O’ Reilly, Coulter, Hannity, Stossel, Malkin etc, etc…) don’t like LIBERAL thing’s like THE TRUTH.
Moore has been making documentaries for almost 20 years about the various injustices going on in the supposed Greatest Country on Earth(TM) and although he stacks the deck a bit, otherwise he’s 99% on the money. Do you think that picking at every single little detail invalidates anything he said about the USA’s gun culture, it’s corrupt President or the despicable state of Healthcare in the USA? It doesn’t and all you have done is show yourselves to be petty little worms while Michael Moore is a true patriot because he actually asks questions and cares about the state of the country and it’s citizen’s while you do NOTHING to improve the quality of life in the USA.
Gotugye @ 62:
I assume there's a point to this comment, but I haven't found it yet. The point of the word "really" in her statement is that it changes the entire context. Words matter, semantics matter, intent matters.
Who can be surprised that the American fascists have already started their dirty tricks with the editing of Madame Obama's comment. Of course the MSM, being the good whores that they are, will follow along obediently.
Gotugye @ 68:
These guys will do ANYTHING to win.
Thats why the Dems always lose.
VietVet @ 9:
Serious?
Without the unifying theme of bigotry, the GOP would evaporate like so much gas from an agitated colon.
Bury him. Seriously. He and his ilk capitalize on misspeak and stereotypes and basically..bullshit and do everything they can to poison the well. Send this around to all the blogs. Combine it with all the questionable shit he's said (yea, the Harlem thing) and hammer him.
He has had it coming for a long, long time.
Obama/Edwards '08 @ 70:
lack of evidence has never stopped the falafel king before...neither has common sense.
is it just me or is this lunatic actually trying to portray himself as more normal, lately? i wonder if he's ever heard the term, "too little too late."
I bet BillO and his fellow FoxNewser Mark Furhman have beers and talk about shit after hours.
pissed off patricia @ 28:
Her adult life began in the '80s. All the great black heroes were long gone then. Watch some Spike Lee movies like "Do the Right Thing" to try to find and imagine any sense of pride a black girl like that could have felt in the big metropolises in the '80s. Then there were the '90s and nothing to be really proud of. This present decade was, simply put, f****ed up for us all. She must have felt proud when she was younger and now, for obvious reasons, any Obama supporter has this feeling. Michelle is spot on with her remark. Look at the f*****g calendar Bill you lunatic f**k!
Obama/Edwards '08 @ 70:
Serious, see comments 43 and 60
I wonder who Shrillo thinks he's kidding. He's dying to go a lynchin'. The rawest most groundless slander will constitute proof for this buffoon.
The more this asshole speaks the more I think he had his brains fucked out by some of the priests
in that wonderful church of his ...
question: could this be construed as a real (as in, involving the secret service) threat to Michelle Obama's safety and security?
she, being black; lynching being a racist call for the hanging of african americans; and billo saying that he might go on a lynching party...
or, put it another way, what if--instead of using the word 'lynching'--billo said that he wants to murder Michelle Obama, would that construe a threat?
really, murder and lynch are pretty much the same. except that lynching has an overt racist message...
i am not a lawyer, i just play one on tv.....
(again, nothing will hapen to billo as a result of this [please, i am begging, prove me wrong])
Obama/Edwards '08 @ 73:
It's going to take more then hope to dig the Country out of the grave.
Oh cool! Cindy and Michelle are having a pride fight! (Cindy McCain told a Wisconsin rally on Tuesday: "I'm proud of my country, I don't know about you, if you heard those words earlier.")
Well, "I ain't proud.... but I ain't tired neither!"
Failing ecosystems, human-enhanced environmental catastrophes; failing infrastructure; food, water and fuel shortages; infectious disease; war, civil conflict and other dynamics.
We'll need to put our best happy faces no doubt about it.
Yes We Can!
Gotugye @ 68:
MSM=OLD
People are smarter than that!
We understand her without nonsense talking heads interpretations.
We HEARD what she said, we don't need THEM to TELL US she said something else!
WTF is with these morons, these so-called "patriots" who love this country and this "democracy" so much that they think it is ok to punish people for how they feel? Freaks.
I don't care what Michelle Obama said. I could give two rats asses if she said she felt ashamed of the country until recently.
It's what Bill O said that should be broadcast everywhere.
FIRE BILL O!
Ph0en1x @ 67:
It changes it slightly. It really wasn't that incendiary to begin with. The real point here is that someone made the change to make her look bad. This is no different than doctoring a news photo.
Fox Noose
Billo is a dickbag. But let's not take a step back and begin making a big deal any time the word lynching is used for black people. Obviously it was being used figuratively.
jim @ 76:
Oh, whew, I thought you had misunderstood my comment. Your rant was at BillO, not me. And I agree with you.
GoodGrief @ 85:
After 40 years of the 60's Left they are "Taking America Back" I believe the battle cry is.
This petty thug dares to call himself a Catholic? America is going down the tubes if trash like this is allowed to air without challenge.
Larry R @ 92:
Going? Have you had a look around lately?
TomPiltoff @ 89:
I disagree, it is a big deal, it's a loaded word. IMO it's not taking a step backward to remind those with a powerful platform (tV or radio) that with that powerful platform comes a sincere responsibility to use words wisely.
Bill say anything he feels like and the more incendiary it is, the more he enjoys saying it. I think Fox likes him because he stirs up shit and apparently his listeners love shit.
L.A. Confidential @ 91:
Heh. I always wonder what they mean by "back." To the dark ages? The inquisition?
O’Reilly: “I don’t want to go on a lynching party against Michelle Obama unless there’s evidence, hard facts, that say this is how the woman really feels”
Dildo O'Lielly ..........Always the (understated) voice of reason , rationale and calm............
What an asshole.
Oops, the word "will" fell out of my comment.
Should read, Bill will say anything
L.A. Confidential @ 93:
I know what you mean but this about as low as it's gotten with this scumbag. I usually don't post on falafel threads, I just hope something is done this time.
So naturally George W. Bush issued a personal proclamation to tell Bill OReilly to shut up for his divisive hateful remarks right?
MCMetal @ 97:
He's trying to get away with something and cover his ass at the same time. He makes the lynching comment and then tries to act like he will be fair to her until he gets evidence.
My question is, what evidence is he looking for? What will that evidence be?
Hmph. Bring it on Bill Oraly.
"Stay tuned folks! After the break we have a caller who says Mrs. Obama is a bloviating buffoon who will say anything to get attention and has a penchant for vibrators."
O'Reilly used those words ABSOLUTELY on purpose, he
WANTS to make this about Race, to get a reaction from
the Obama camp.
My advice to the Obama Camp is to say:
"Bill O'Reilly? We are supposed to care what Bill O'Reilly says?"
Or, more precisely:
"Wait, I'm finishing my Fallafel for lunch, I will have to PHONE
YOU back on that one..."
And then laugh in the askers face!
M. Obama can take up for herself, I can see her tearing Bill O' to pieces in any debate.
He didn't run with her comment because he knew it was edited.
Bill O’Reilly is...I started to type, but, stopped, because there is nothing "nice," to say about him. So, I will leave it there.
The only thing to do with O'Reilly is to turn him off.
God, this stuff is exhausting.
I haven't been proud of this country in years....so what?????
TomPiltoff @ 89:
Yeah, it means to hang by the neck until dead.
TomPiltoff @ 89:
and what would you say if o'reilly said they were going to lead a rape party against hillary, or any woman? would that, too, just be figurative?
Ok...unconditional love for America, thats kind of a given.
But Pride? Surely that is something to be earned.
Watching the republikan from now until the election should make all the inbred retard repukes damned proud of their party, and country.....
A few minutes ago, Thom Hartmann played the TWO versions of Ms. Obama's statements on his Air America radio program. One version was edited, apparently by FOX, to make her statements sound worse than they were. The UNEDITED version, found on CSPAN video, retains her original words matched to the audio. PLEASE get these up online to compare--a very blatant right wing smear is happening here.
This segment took place with Rep. Jan Schakowsky as an on-air guest who also observed the badly edited fakery.
No Al Sharpton. He doesn't have the nuggets to stand against the Right. Like when he led the charge against Imus, but then gave a pass to BillO for his comments about a black-owned restaurant the two of them went to. Al Sharpton is a coward.
"United States of America is the greatest country in the world" Yeah, just wait until the nasty Right wing hate freaks let out the blood thirsty racist dogs on Obama. This Nation's evil underbelly will finally be totally exposed.
Orally... the best cable has to offer. Want an ASS! I will be glad when the monopolies are broken up A coward and a Racist from the word go.
I made the mistake of reading some of the comments on the Fox site, and what a bunch of morans. And for all the Fox people lurking here, I love my country. But the shame I feel at times is something that I find difficult to quantify.
The Truth Hurts @ 108:
What, exactly, do we have to be proud of -- especially during the last 7 dismal years?!
When people don't stop Orally from this kind of shit, its so wonder people feel the way they feel. He is on air spewing garbage like this and he gets away with it. Trying to paint Michelle as anti-American is a slimy thing to do. I'm glad that people have come to their senses and realize that a president leading us into war on a lie is unpatriotic.
people are jumping on the edited statements of Michelle Obama and say nothing about newscasters being warmongers. I'm laughing all of you fools trying to paint someone as anti-American. All you have to do is look back at the past seven years. What happened to us was truly un-American. I don't want to hear about Michelle's speech. She's great. It's people who supported a war that should have never been authorized, and who keep supporting warmongers like Clinton and McCain who ought to have your heads examined. They think it's fun to continue the current policies.
Obama will clean up Washington. Thank God.
... I'll never forget the day the news was breaking out that Kobe Bryant aledgelly had been involved in the rape of a woman in Colorado a few years ago. Trying to keep up with the latest dirt, I consistently had my tuners (picture in picture) on Fox, MSNBC, and CNN. What struck me after a few hours was how Fox gave Kobe the OJ Time(?) magazine treatment in that all it would show of him was a still of Kobe's face in an unflattering mug shot display as a backdrop. No footage of any type, just a still "mugshot". The other two networks while discussing the Bryant news would show clips of Kobe in a variety of settings such as a game, practicing, giving autographs to fans, out about town with his wife, giving interviews, etc. This treatment of Bryant by Fox went on for almost ten hours. It was so obvious to me that they were attempting to paint this man in negative light from the get-go, and with no more proof of his guilt or innocence than what any of the other networks had at the time. Up to that point, I had thought of Fox as just another network with a pronounced right-wing listing, but after seeing first hand how their racist bigotry was employed, it completely turned me off as anything to be trusted on anything. What a joke of a news network -- A JOKE!
What someone said upstream is correct. Bill O'Reilly and the rest of Fox News know exactly what they are doing and know exactly who they are trying to reach and appeal to.
No, no, no!
Bill says he is opposed to lynching her! He doesn't want to. That puts him above the rest of you who have never gone on record as being against it.
*crosses arms, stares back smugly*
McMike @ 122:
Nah, he just doesn't want to do it unless there is ice cream.
This ain't nothin...nothing compared to November.
Bette Davis had it right.
by removing the word "really" it opens the door to specullation that maybe she was baliming america. But by having the word "Really" there, then it removes all doubt that she was proud of usa before and shes even more proud now.
Im glad fox got busted propagandizing.
Thom Hartman on Air America played the audio from C-Span and described the video that indisputably showed that Ms. Obama clearly stated "...really proud of my country..." but Fox and/or Drudge edited the "really" to make the statement controversial. It wasn't even a good editting job, the "r" sound of the word "really" could be heard.
Heathcliffe @ 125:
So you're a fan of a well known liar and spinmeister? You are not his "biggest" as you mentioned, but you're a fan, huh? Why are you a fan of a liar?
Your hero Billo is making hay about much to do about nothing. Why is a quote -- an edited quote mind you -- such a big deal to O'Reilly and his audience?
What do you expect from a motherfucker iced tea sipper.
Heathcliffe @ 125:
slip of the tongue?
a little naive of you, don't you think?
signed,
pathetic loser
Anybody feel like tipping off the Secret Service that Billo is making tacit threats in public against a protected candidate's spouse? That'll shut his dumb ass up quick.
Bill O'Reilly's foot, meet Bill O'Reilly's mouth. Oh, you've met before? Repeatedly, you say? Oh. Carry on.
Okay, he could NOT have said that. If he said that, then all of life is a CARTOON, nothing is what it seems...even though he seems as vile as he is, and this is vile. But that is it, I am convinced now: Every talking head is a FAKE, put in place by a shadow government to keep all of us ants and mosquitos busy, fussing with each other, anything but keeping track of THEM. I don't want to think it, but there's no other explanation. In fact, what MICHELLE OBAMA said makes me wonder how real anything is. I'm flumoxed.
Anyway...
OBAMA '08
(still hoping)
So Bill-O used the word "lynching" in a clearly metaphorical sense. Big deal! The irony here is that he was defending Michelle Obama against unsubstantiated charges which O'Really compared to the media's unfair treatment of Bill Clinton(!).
I mean honestly, folks. We're getting close to electing our first black president. I really don't think the KKK is going to make a comeback any time soon. Aren't we being just a wee bit hysterical?
And if Bill-O wants to argue that this isn't an imperfect country, now THERE'S a debate I'd like us to have! Let's start with the lack of affordable medical care and then work our way over to asking how come rich people have a lower tax rate than the middle class. Fun fun fun!
You know, this just burns my butt.
Kelly Tilghman from the Golf Channel gets benched for two weeks and Sharpton calls for her head,because she used the term in jest in regards to Tiger Woods. You can find the direct quote in context yourself, but it definately was in jest. She and Tiger are friends.
Now, Billo and Michelle Obama? Not so much. Where is the hue and cry? Why has Bill not groveled as others have had to regarding use of the term "lynching"? The answer is because he just doesn't get it and neither do his employers.
A neck-tie party for Billo would be too good for him.
Gary
Heathcliffe @ 125:
Apparently, you're not into Freud.
This is just a First Shot Over the Bow... when it comes to campaign tactics by America's RIGHT-WING-LOSERS. They will do and say ANYTHING to rally their racist, short-sighted, radical-religious, rampant base.
If this were NBC and David Schuster said these things, he'd get suspended again. I mean, wow.
BFD what Michelle said. It's been a long time since I was proud of America, too. At least seven years.
I'm speechless.
Also sad. It just amazes me, how this could happen in this day and age.
I was so optimistic about the issues of race and human relations in this country 30 years ago. It seemed like the battles had been fought, and "Right" had prevailed.
The "THE Right" embarked on a foaming-at-the mouth bloodthirsty rampage with the apparent intent of putting the genie back in the bottle.
I just can't see how once enlightened, people can go back to ignorance so easily. Maybe they can't. Maybe there were not as many "enlightened" by the 60s and 70s as I would have thought.
If BillO is not at least hit with a meaningful suspension and forced to make a very public, contrite, and defenseless apology, I may actually blow a gasket.
proud is a relative term. i'm not proud of my country, haven't been in a long time. when the entire world community looks down at you and ranks you right next to other oppressive countries, and when other countries are outperforming you in nearly every category except polluting and consuming, it's not a time to be proud.
when the world opinion of us changes, i may change my opinon as well, it may take longer though since i live here.
The longer Jesse and Al remain silent on this, the less credibility they have left, which is not much.
Al should be calling for O'Reilly's dismissal, but if he did that, who would he get to take him to Sylvia's for dinner and have them foot the bill?
Hieronymus Braintree @ 134:
you might be ignorant about the history of this word and of lynching in general, and, if so, you are forgiven.
yet, it is stunning to see people coming out and claiming that this is just a metaphor, or just a figure of speech, or a slip of the tongue, etc.
it is none of these. call it what it is: a threat of violence with racist overtones.
and, as i wrote earlier, what if o'reilly came out and said that he might go on a raping party against hillary? another metaphor?
Hieronymus Braintree @ 134:
You need to watch O'Reilly to know what he is all about. O'Reilly has NEVER defended any African-American on his show, and few right-wingers were harder on Bill Clinton AFTER HE LEFT OFFICE than Bill O'Reilly. The Clintons, Jesse Jackson, and the "elite" ("Liberal") media were weekly recurring issues on the O'Reilly Factor in his first six or so years on the air. I doubt O'Reilly knows what metaphorical means.
L.A. Confidential @ 30:
"Stirring the yahoos," as Sam Donaldson so eloquently put it.
I'm gonna speculate that Bill knew exactly of the word he was using when he said it to bait people. His ego thrives on it. He wants an uproar over this, believe me. I also think he's taking a calculated "wait and see" tack in regards to all things Obama so he can say later on, when he really starts criticizing him, that "I was the only one who held back judgement. I gave him the benefit of the doubt."
When he is challenged on the lynching statement, he will then change and distort the argument and those of us that despise him get caught moving on to the next fire he causes and never really get to put out the original one. It's tried and true and he does this all the time.
This is all well thought out strategy on Billy's part so he can justify later attacks.
Oh, and I predict that Bill's defense, should he have to defend this comment, will be that in the Tiger Woods case, Tiger came out and said it wasn't a big deal to him and to just drop it and that will be Bill's justification. Well, Tiger didn't mind the comment, so neither should any other black person...
douche bag sez what ?
Bill doesn't wanna watch. Doesn't mean he doesn't wanna be there. Just that he doesn't wanna see it. And he sure as hell isn't trying to stop it is he.
Don't forget, Billo tried to get violent with that Obama staffer, and called him a "lower-class SOB."
Also, he thinks Daily Kos is the KKK. Which is odd, because I've never seen a diary there about lynching anybody (except maybe Bill O'Reilly).
Remember when Hillary got pissed off about Shuster's "pimp" slipup, and fired off that angry letter? I think this merits something much more serious.
Nah, this is the kind of grade school theatrics that the American people are tired of. There are crazy people in mental instututions who spew bile and invective (they can't help it) and the world keeps on turning. They just don't have to be on radio.
It is to be hoped that before long the media masters will realize that the act is getting old, and will start providing some decent commentary for us to listen to. Otherwise they will continue to see their market share disappear to the new media, which they can't control. I think that the whole "shock jock" thing has far outlived its reason to exist. Give me a 45 minute speech by Obama any day -- or even Clinton or McCain. (OK, the latter is a stretch, but I wouldn't mind listening to a decent conservative making their case.)
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