Pastor John Hagee endorses McCain: Bill Donohue Freaks out
By John Amato Wednesday Feb 27, 2008 7:05pm A highly controversial San Antonio evangelical pastor has endorsed John McCain. Notice in Elisabeth Bumiller's piece---she fails to bring up anything about Hagee's core beliefs. I guess they are all the same to her.
McCain: I was pleased to have the endorsement of pastor John Hagee yesterday.
McCain is happy as a clam. Looks like the pastor had a bit of a problem with the IRS and Hagee's not too fond of the Catholic church either. From his book Jerusalem Countdown:...
Adolf Hitler attended a Catholic school as a child and heard all the fiery anti-Semitic rantings from Chrysostom to Martin Luther. When Hitler became a global demonic monster, the Catholic Church and Pope Pius XII never, ever slightly criticized him. Pope Pius XII, called by historians 'Hitler's Pope,' joined Hitler in the infamous Concordat of Collaboration, which turned the youth of Germany over to Nazism, and the churches became the stage background for the bloodthirsty cry, 'Pereat Judea'.... In all of his [Hitler's] years of absolute brutality, he was never denounced or even scolded by Pope Pius XII or any Catholic leader in the world. To those Christians who believe that Jewish hearts will be warmed by the sight of the cross, please be informed—to them it's an electric chair.
This is the kind of hate that permeates the extreme wing of the religious right. Bill Donohue is freaking out over Hagee and McCain. Glenn Greenwald interviewed him today:
The Catholic League demanded that McCain repudiate Hagee and his endorsement, just as Barack Obama did earlier this week with Louis Farrakhan (despite the fact that Obama, unlike McCain with Hagee, never sought out or accepted Farrakhan's endorsement) In the interview, Donohue made some extraordinary statements. He compared Hagee both to Louis Farrakhan and Bob Jones, but noted: "Hagee is far more powerful than Farrakhan is today. . . . Hagee is a major player. There's no end to his money. He has an empire down there." Regarding the intense 2000 media controversy when then-Gov. George Bush spoke at Bob Jones University, Donohue said:
Why were they so exercised about Bob Jones? This is worse. . . . If someone said to me: who is the biggest anti-Catholic bigot in the evangelical community, I would say: hands down, John Hagee.
The entire podcast interview, which lasted roughly 15 minutes, can be heard here.
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Bill Dononhue freaks out every time someone uses a toilet-
"That's pure EVIL comming out of you."
Isn't Rev. Ted Haggard in Arizona now? THAT would be a great endorsement for McJesus.
Wow, the phony Christian snakes really are consuming each other, aren't they? I love it!
Scooter @ 2:
I'm waiting for Fred Phelps and his band of merry, inbred psychopaths to announce they're backing McCain.
My first question is:
Why did Greenwald interview Donahue in the first place.
Oh man, the religious right is even eating ITSELF now.
The GOP has seriously metastasized.
Hitler's religion: http://nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm
He'll never get independents with endorsements from freaks like this.
Three trueisms:
McCain will suck up to anyone.
Senator Lieberman loves Rev, Hagee too.
Donohue is a thug and a putz.
Thanks, I'm here all week!
LOL you "Christians" have fun now, ya hear?
Wow one psychopathic Christianist calling another psychopathic Christianst a bigot. The ability of Christians to make them selves into victims is sometimes overwhelming. All of them are a waste of skin.
It is amazing that in 2008 people still listen to religious leaders like Donahue. Sad.
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WHY is Glenn Greenwald giving legitimacy to that shit, Bill Donahue!?
There isn't enough popcorn in the world!
I love the smell of religiofascist head explosions in the morning.
so when do the irs start their audit?
That's because Hagee is into that whole End of Times, Armageddon thing, and he knows McCain will keep the conflict going in Iraq. I've seen the guy talk before. He's a serious nut job. This is the group that's all about converting the Jews to Christianity when all the born again Christians are raptured. The Jews that don't convert will burn in hell. It's all part of their master plan.
Hagee and Donohue sound like a pair of dicks.
Real Christians want nothing to do with jerks.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bjFFJl4c7JI
"He compared Hagee both to Louis Farrakhan and Bob Jones"
Hmm. Hard to tell who is more offended
Being a bigot against a religious group is like being a bigot against a political party.
Aaaahahahahaha! For a guy who is bigoted against just about everything that isn't Catholic or fits his world view, this is bloody hilarious, crybaby stuff.
'Fanks, Bill, you tremendous douche.
:)
I was going to take some time on this most foul day in this septic year of our lord (Note the clever juxtaposition: one should pump their septic tank every 8 years - get it?) to address the failure of local religious leaders and other totally disconnected conserve pinheads to put a sizable dent in a problem that has ballooned to monstrous proportions recently. Undoubtedly you’ve probably caught the faint sulfur dioxide olfactory aura of this pressing problem whilst engaged in fighting off sleep in the midst of the latest television slagger assault on our collective senses by pendejos, snails, and slugs collectively known under the more than generous moniker “ the media” and their bend-over buddies, the political pundits – and don’t forget those proctologists in the making, the evening “news”. Yes the city fathers, Arthur Schopenhauer, and the Archbishop Ned of Smegma have gotten the panties in a twist over an embarrassing plague that threatens the very loose and thin fabric which barely contains the dregs of civilized discourse and real stopping power, if you follow my meaning. Undoubtedly, you’ve seen the signs at every outdoor aquatic facility. And it’s getting worse. Recently a well renowned public figure was forced to confront his own frailty of human nature, as he was forced by public pressure to directly atone for his grave and disgusting social faux pax and admit to all assembled in the name of the never-forgotten exploited that he really isn’t that interested in picking up stray litter in your local hotspot/airport men’s restroom lavatory. As John McCain was forced to admit today under the relentless piss storm of the media suck circus, “It’s enough to make you want to eat some brains!”
But as Mr. McCain will tell you, consuming the brain and other nerve tissue of animals is not without risks and discomfiture, especially if you like to wear the occasional Hagar all-white slacks. The first problem is that the makeup of the brain (and most Republicans) is 60% fat due to the myelin (which itself is 70% fat) insulating the axons of neurons and glia. As an example, a 140 g can of "pork brains in milk gravy – chunky style", a single serving, contains 3500 milligrams of cholesterol, 1170% of the GOP recommended daily intake. Because of the risk of being infected by prions (that’s what got Huckabee) one should always wear gloves when handling brains, especially your own. It is also well known in the hunting community that the brain of wild animals should not be consumed, due to the risk of chronic wasting disease, but the irony is that anyone that takes an interest in hunting usually is wasted anyway. The brain is still useful to hunters, in that most animals have enough brain matter for use in the tanning of their own hides.
Man it's quite funny and satisfying to watch religio-facists do a combination of imploding, head exploding and eating their own...
Keep it up, fellas. It's priceless.
Ya I find it absolutely hilarious that McCain will ultimately get a pass on it by the big, bad "liberal" media. Flip this around, think if Obama not only "accepted" Farrakhan's support, but was on stage with him when he announced it. Can you imagine the firestorm that would ignite. Man. But apparently Hagee's radicalism doesn't mean quite as much as Farrakhan's, I mean for all intensive purpose, they are equally nuts.
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the irony is that this will be the first time that the msm will ignore bill donohue.
The funny thing is, most of what Hagee says about the roots of Hitler's and the Nazi's anti-Semitism is TRUE. It was Catholic/Lutheran to the CORE.
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While I despise Mr. Hagee, his preposterous theology, and his anti-human politics, he is basically correct about Hitler and the church. He was born, baptized, and raised a Catholic-- and if you subscribe to their theology, he remains a Catholic today.
... but I think Hagee is right about Pius, isn't he?
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Sure Hagee is a wingnut theocrat. So is Donohue. And Pope Pius was a nazi-sympathizing fascist.
I agree with Bill Donohue... is that proof that God exists?
No matter how offensive, little excerpts of Hagee will never give you a picture of how utterly revolting a human being he is. Please take a minute and catch this shit-wad on cable. He is the minister to the NeoCons. His view of God is war, war, war, war, war, war, war. The more dead bodies, the more blood, the greater the glory to God. I think that's his message.
I had never heard of this guy Hagee before. Thanks John McCain!
KansasCityFaGt @ 19:
I dare you to say that to a Jew or a Muslim.
Every Saturday night, I sprinkle bird seed in church parking lots; Every Sunday, I watch the birds shit on the christains cars.
Fuck you christians and fuck your shit encrusted SUVs.
McRapture.
With any luck, the religious right will finally have the apocalypse they seek - on each other
Chuck @ 34:
feed thu birds
"...and the Catholics bigot the joos, and Hitler lay with Popehile Pius XII and cleansed the joos, and Hagee bigot the Catholics, and Donohue bigot the non-Catholics...and the circle-jerking was great, for there were many jerks, and the media said 'we will taketh the position of pivot', and all were drenched in the seed of their bigotry."
Chuck @ 34:
Good idea, thanks, lol. ;-}
puck @ 35:
#404, tanky! ;)
Huh. Serves all those Catholics right who voted for BushMcfuckwit in 2000 and 2004. When the evangelicals start rounding them up with all them fags, abortionists, feminists, jews and Islamofacists it will be just desserts. Emmmm, desserts. I love desserts.
go circular firing squad!
There's only one problem for Donahue. Everything that evangelical "whack-job" said about Hitler and the Catholic Church is true, before a certain year. (google it, it's out there.) But, then again, it's pretty hard to think of something really awful that the church hasn't done. For nearly two-thousand years, they've been proving one of the oldest maxims in human history: WE BECOME OUR ENEMIES. Perhaps that's why Jesus said, "The last place you'll ever find God is in a church."
The last place you’ll ever find God is in a church.” me too!
Nice endorsement ya got there, McMaverick.
I never thought I would in any way agree with Donahue - but he's got a bit of a point. Too bad he's too crazy to make the point.
"This is the kind of hate that permeates the extreme wing of the religious right"
I'd hardly call this summary of papal complicity in the Holocaust "hate." It's a matter of historical record: Pious XII did indeed sell out the Catholic Center Party, though more to consolidate papal power than to facilitate Nazism, which he hated. In removing papal support for a powerful Catholic party which stood as an obstacle to Hitler--as a condition for ratifying a concordat with Germany--Pious XII essentially placed himself in Hitler's pocket. He could not speak out against Hitler, whether or not he wanted to, without risking his precious concordat.
John Hagee first came to my attention when he was running around like his hair was on fire yelling at the top of his lungs that the Harry Potter books had real spells in them and the young people reading this books were calling real demons into their home to take over families. I started watching once in a while for pure entertainment factor much like watching Pat Roberson's head bob up and down just before he says something insane. Hagee once told the story of how he didn't feel well after a sermon and when home to pray. In the middle of prayer he realized what was really going on and jumped to his feet and ran around the house yelling. You see he realized that some of the women at the last sermon were witches and had put a spell on him. Of course being a real bible thumping christian he was able to break the spell is ok today. I am telling you that is entertainment. :)
we haven't had a good religious war for quite some time now,have we?
Religion:something that's taught.Usually when your a child.
In the process,you learn the hatred for other religions,from your parents.and relatives.
for instance,Catholic v Protestant.The divisiveness is taught to the children from their elders.Who was taught by their elders.and it goes back and back,ect,ect.Somebody somewhere got screwed somehow and the retaliation goes on and on.It doesn't take much for some people to hate.
And what is religion?
On Sunday,these people are all about forgiveness and tolerance ,But come monday,all bets are off.
Until next Sunday.
Nope,you can have it.I want no part of it.
Hey, the endorsement of one fruitcake is as good as the endorsement of any other fruitcake.
Did anyone else notice in all the media coverage of the Bill Cunningham lunacy from Cincy, that everytime they showed McCain getting off the bus, right behind him was the big dollar preacher from Columbus, Rod Parsley. I guess he has to make sure his tax deferemnt stays in place. Probably would have a better chance on the Obama bus. Ex-Presidential candidiates like McCain don't have much pull after November.
I'm Sure Donohue is cursing that damned Protestant or Evangelical or what ever.
Matthew Elias
mean for all intensive purpose, they are equally nuts.
for all intents and purposes
Why would McCain welcome the support of a bigot and a nutjob? Hard to believe.
Donohue shouldn't be surprised Hagee dislikes Catholics. Fundies like Hagee are nothing more than a extension of the KKK. And the only reason he embraces the Jews is that he wants to speed up the end times. Knowing full well that his doctrine is that they can't get to heaven anyway.
John Hagee is a vile, hate-spewing Christofascist of the worst kind. He openly, loudly, and constantly calls for Christian dominion over America. I can't think of a kind word for him because I don't believe in lying. For McCain to happily accept Hagee's endorsement shows that (1) McCain finally has gone 100% insane and (2) McCain is the wrong choice for president, or vice president, or senator, or any other office. If Obama got flack for the unwanted Farrakhan endorsement, then McCain should be chased from the country for embracing Hagee's endorsement.
Actually, I did think of a semi-kind thing to say about Hagee: he pisses off Bill Donahue, another idiot who spews venom and idiocy with every breath. If McCain sides with Donohue, he's still siding with the devil: there is nothing godly about either of these men.
Church:
The safesst place to launder drug money.
I was raised Catholic and I do not think John Hagee was wrong to say that Hitler was Catholic and that the Pope should have stood up to Hitler. He may be intolerant to other religions, but doesn't that come with the territory of being a leader of a religious group?
Of course Bill Donohue said the guy who made "chocolate Jesus" was the worse anti-Catholic Bigot so I wonder where John Hagee comes into this.
Dave @ 27:
But the reason Donohue is getting his very very tighty-whiteys in a twist is because it's basically a smear job. Yeah, perhaps the Catholic church didn't condemn Hitler, but neither did the Adventist church in which I was raised. Neither did many Protestant churches. So Hagee knows that this is a smear, but it doesn't really matter. Obviously seeing Donhue get worked up is hilarious, and I agree with an above poster, there isn't enough popcorn in the world....but as someone said all it takes to allow evil to flourish (as in the case of the reticence of churches to stand against evil political leaders) is for decent people to hold their tongues.
[Snark, for various commenting policy infractions over a period of time (handle changing, flame baiting and using another poster's name to name a few), you've been shown the door-Sitemonitor]
Chuck @ 56:
Dubya calls that a faith-based initiative.
The rapture right has taken over. They will find a way to destroy the world and McCave is all for it.
It's like Animal Planet. Two hyenas fighting over a dead carcass, with vultures in the trees waiting for their turn.
raker @ 62:
Yep. When ya wanna see true Republican values in action, Animal Planet is the place to see it. Praize da Lord and pass the bullets.
Isn't it curious that Hagee can spout the vitriol, while Obama's church body, the United Church of Christ, is coming under investigation for Obama's having spoken at an annual conference! Seems somewhat odd that the IRS isn't trying to lift the tax-exempt status of Hagee's institution... fair and balanced?
As for the churches' not standing up to Hitler, please remember the names of Bonhoeffer and Kolbe as men of conscience who did stand up. were willing to die for it, and paid the ultimate price. There were too few, but they should not be forgotten. How far is it from trying to control the actions of a church body and watching others get the message that it's not nice to fool with the authorities. Time for people to stand up sooner rather than later.
Proud2bHumble @ 40:
Lemmie add this one
McApocalypseNow.
Another wheel just fell off the Stray Cock Express.
And his MSM kissasses (Chris Matthews, Tucker, etc) won't be looking into this story with as much fervor as they do anything to do with the now-retired Farrakhan.
John "Straight Hypocrisy Express" McCain: If that is the kind of support you want, then by all means, pursue it. Before you do, you now lose whatever 'safe ground' you had when you denounced Bill Cunningham. Now, ANY racist/islamophobic remarks he and others of your friends make, they now all can point back to YOU as the beneficiary. Say goodbye to whatever chance you had at a clean campaign.
AgentX @ 65:
Ahhh, I love the smell of burnt McEverybodythinksthecongfuckedmeupbutIwasfuckedupalready in the evening...
#407, tanks! ;}
for those of you who don't know the agenda of pastor john hagee (keep a sharp eye out for the guest list):
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/11302007/watch.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjMRgT5o-Ig
these are worth the time and effort for close scrutiny. anyone with ties like these should be banned from civil service on any level. they are enemies of our constitution, undermining our nation's sovereignty, integrity and morality and... our forefathers are back-flipping in their graves while screaming out terrifying shame.
for those of you who don't know the agenda of pastor john hagee (keep a sharp eye out for the guest list):
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/11302007/watch.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjMRgT5o-Ig
these are worth the time and effort for close scrutiny. anyone with ties like these should be banned from civil service on any level. they are enemies of our constitution, undermining our nation's sovereignty, integrity and morality and... our forefathers are back-flipping in their graves while screaming out terrifying shame.
Stus @ 9:
LOL!!!
One nut complaining about another... So what's new here?
The physically and spiritually ugly Hagee advocates a pre-emptive nuclear attack on Iran. Does McCain agree? O-man should ask him.
Bill studying up on his next outrage de jour:
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/6/6f/180px-Billtheca...
HE'S AN ENDTIMER! HE'S AN ENDTIMER! HE'S AN ENDTIMER! (but he sure EATS well). i thought that he would be in such a rapturous, head-in-the clouds state of mind, whispering biblical passages to himself, NIBBLING crackers and taking delicate sips of water, waiting for...the END times...but i guess scarfing leg of lamb and potatoes and ice cream is more satisfying.
Leg o'lamb to them is just a venial sin
Thigh o'woman a mortal one.
kind of ironic that Paul Hagee who labels catholics as whores while Televangelists are always begging for money.
Hagee vs. Donohue.
Survival of the fittest.
Let Darwin sort 'em out.
bruthah bill takes personal offense over the line, "Don we now our gay apparel fa la la...la la la...la la la"
He hates LA
Fitness.
Cat Atomic @ 6:
They're double-jointed.
Funny, I guess, to see one lunatic complaining about another, but by interviewing Donahue, Greenwald makes him look like he's legit, like he really speaks for Catholics and the Catholic Church. I'm not a Catholic (or anything, for that matter), but Donahue is a psycho and a bigot and his views are meaningless and should be treated as such. Bad move by Greenwald, IMO.
Pastor John Hagee endorses McCain: Bill Donohue Freaks out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeJ1c9YOzvM
Being a devout athiest, I love to see these guys flinging poo at eachother because they can ALWAYS reach back and find something horrible that the others faith has done.
mudshark @ 49:
ysbaddaden @ 81:
Thanks for the memories! I used to "boogy" to that all the time!
The first thing I thought when I read Glen's column this morning is"I didn't realize Glen believes in 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend'". I also couldn't believe that Glen couldn't find a more legitimate voice to comment on the Hagee endorsement. Donahue's reaction is,of course news, but if if the roles were reversed, would Glen interview Hagee about Donhue's endorsement? Where do you stop? Interviewing Charles Manson about John Wayne Gacy? Asking Fred Phelps about the latest rant from Ann Coul
ter? Glen Beck's assessment of Michael Savage? Bad decision,Glen, very bad.....
"Why were they so exercised about Bob Jones? This is worse. . . . If someone said to me: who is the biggest anti-Catholic bigot in the evangelical community, I would say: hands down, John Hagee."
And who is the biggest Catholic bigot?? Right - Bill Donohue!!
Let's hear it for religion.......! #;}
goatboyslim @ 85:
CalGeorge @ 13:
Radically Moderate @ 5:
I've got to agree with the above. A rare mis-step by Greenwald. There is no reason to interview that fuckwit, Donohue. (Dude went nuts about a chocolate Jesus!) Then he goes and links Althouse - seriously, let sleeping dogs lie. Glenn must have been having a bad day.
Old Billy @ 87:
They're slogan was eat me.
Matthew 26: 26-28.
Fil @ 76:
Whores are morally superior to televangelists because they give you something for your money.
It doesn't matter even whether McCain, improbably, would win. Haggee and (probable Dispoensationalist Huckabee) will get a wider and worse war in the Middle East anyway. All Bush or Israel has to do to prolong and worsen the war in Iraq is to goad Iran into retaliation by a campaign of air strikes against it. I believe this will happen starting after the party conventions in September. Obama, like Clinton, has voted for every war funding bill. When Bush then sounds an alarm that Iran is attacking our troops, whether true or not, whoever the Democrat nominee may be will be under tremendous pressure at take the same excuse as McCain for continuing the Middle East Crusade.
The only nonviolent way I can think of for Americans to avoid this is by taking action BEFORE THE ELECTION, right after primaries; for voters, in mass numbers, to de-register from the Republican and Democratic parties, stop supporting them with money, refuse to tell pollsters how they are leaning and make clear to these conniving parties that deepening and worsening the war is unacceptable.
Rusty Shackleford @ 89:
A disease?
This ought to cheer Ol' Donohue up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTjIiYkpu6A
During WWII there were many Catholics that resisted Hitler, including Bishops in The Netherlands, Germany, France etc (even though The Pope stood by.
Why is it hate speech to point out that the Catholic church did nothing to deter the holocaust and in fact may have helped to enable it?
Most historians consider the Reichskonkordat an important step toward the international acceptance of Adolf Hitler's Nazi regime.
Guenter Lewy, political scientist and author of The Catholic Church and Nazi Germany, wrote:
"There is general agreement that the Concordat increased substantially the prestige of Hitler's regime around the world.
The Reichskonkordat is a fact.
It seems to me neither side has a good understanding of the crucifixion. God chose his chosen people so Christians could obtain eternal salvation. We should be thanking Hebrews for killing Christ instead of crucifying them back.
Hope Hagee and Donahue get it here on earth because it won't be tolerated in Heaven. It truly amazes me how Christians treat each other. Envy is a sin!!
If Christ appeared instantly, Would they both ask Christ whose right ? Would Hebrews first question be is this your first or second visit ? Common people get together and stop the bickering for the greater good!!
The Hebrews did what God wanted and intended done and Praise the Lord !! As a Christian, I have eternal life !! Yeah Yeah
What do you think Christ is saying to himself about Ireland ? Christians killing Christians over Christ. This has to be totally mind boggling to Christ. Isn't it more important to learn to get along with each other now then kill each other over some doctrine and dogma thats not written in stone but left open to interpretation ?
Hope everyone resolves there issues before they die !! I believe were called upon to settle matters on earth !! "It too late when we die to sau we don't see eye to eye" !!
The ultimate Judge of all this is the Good Lord above and I think many powerful men lose sight of this. This seems like a meaningless power struggle and the almighty has all the power. Personnally, the truth is somewhere in the middle. In going to Mass regularly were reminded not to get caught up in the blame game. When are people going to stop blaming one another ? What is is and what done is done and move on and stop blaming people for past mistakes that can't be changed. Mistakes are made and Christ entire minestry is all about forgiveness and neither side seems to have one ounce of forgiveness in them.
It's mind boggling. Find reasons to forgive not this continual fight. We are supposed to become Christ like and that simply all forgiving.
Hate? that isn't hate its historical fact, most of it at least, the part about the jews viewing the cross as the electric chair was a bit much, but it might well have been true in Nazi germany. This guy may well well be a nut job but theirs nothing nutty in his statements about the actions of the Catholic church with regard to fascism (not that this reflects on catholics in general), but can you honestly see Pope Benny bad mouthing the Nazi's if all his precious cash was on the line, or with very real martyrdom staring him in the face?
This cradle Catholic and lifelong Republican is going to vote Democratic for the first time next year if McCain doesn't denounce that ignorant and nasty anti-Catholic gasbag by the name of John Hagee.
Anthology @ 94:
Why would you tell such a lie? Other than the Allied Forces, no other entity saved more Jewish lives during WWII in Europe than the Catholic Church -- some 600K-1M lives altogether.
How many Jews did Hagee's dispensationalist forefathers save during WWII. Hint: ZERO.
Since Dad believes so much in the Iraq War son Matt is just the right age to fight.When will Matt enlist in the military and go fight in Iraq.The Pastor was a Vietnam War draft dodger and the son is to chicken to fight for what he believes in.
Matthew @ 99:
AMEN...........it seems lilke the only bigotry that is tolerated is against the Catholic Church. Well "Peace be with you" I also feel that I will, for the first time, in a long life, vote Democratic if John McCain does not denounce Hagee's endorsement.
Stumbled on this by accident. I live in San Antonio and all are right,Hagee is a nut case.I'm Catholic,and my sister's boyfriend is a Jew. I believe in live and let live.I have no desire to convert Ross to Christianity or any Jew.If they ask me questions
about the Church,I'll try to answer them.But people like Hagee want to convert the Jews for their own ends and will do anything to try to hasten the End Times.
I recall my late father,who was in military intelligence for 33 years(1942-1975)
saying that if World War 3 and Armegedon starts,it will happen in the Middle East.
Look at what's going on there with the war in Iraq and fighting between the palestinians and the isralies is dam scary and all we need is a nut job like Pastor Hagee to try through politics to set things off.
The Arabs and Jews can do that on their own thank you very much.
I'll be voting democratic thank you very much,I did like Rudy Guliani very much.
Dear Gene214:
Actually you ignoramus, Fred Phelps endorsed Gore because he is a big liberal homophobic democrat!
Quoting from www.conservapedia.com:
Phelps has been an active contributor to the Democratic Party and was enthusiastic supporter of Al Gore for President in 1988. Phelps's son, Fred Phelps, Jr., also served as a delegate for Gore.
...
Phelps ran for governor of Kansas as a Democrat in 1990, 1994, and 1998.[7] Phelps received 31% of the vote in Kansas's 1992 Democratic Party primary for U.S. Senate.[8] In 1993 Phelps ran for mayor of Topeka. and 1997.
You liberal propagandists have no regard for the facts or the truth. You spew out poison against Catholics and Protestants because you are militant atheists who want to deny God so you can live your miserable selfish lives with no moral law. I am a bold evangelical and former Catholic and I welcome the fight.
Come visit me at www.chuckcampbellshow.com
But please, do your homework before you challenge me on the facts.
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