C&L's John Amato Talks About McCain's Free Ride From The Media
By Logan Murphy Thursday Mar 27, 2008 3:42pmC&L creator, John Amato, appeared on MSNBC Friday to talk about GOP presidential candidate, John McCain's new ad, and the free pass he's received from the mainstream media during the primary season. We've covered the media's love affair with the aging Arizona Senator, and as John points out, all he has to run on is his war record and the media has been all too happy to help him out:
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"Well, of course the only thing that John McCain can run on is that he's the military man and the media helps him out. I mean, he has this gaffe, he doesn't know who's in Iran, are they Iraqi, a Shiite, or an extremist and the media lets him off the hook so he doesn't need these commercials because the media's helping him out already."
Amato also brings up the escalating violence in Basra and Baghdad, which shows how the crumbling surge could hurt John McCain, but he was cut off by MSNBC host Mark Mullen-- who seemed more interested in talking about Al Gore jumping in the Democratic primary race -- which proves John's point, as Mullen gives McCain a free pass on the one issue he's staking his entire candidacy on.








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John McCain's military expertise will prove invaluable if we ever go to war with Cambodia or Vietnam again. As for his knowledge of the Middle East, not so much.
go john go!
spank the MsM!
Good job John
The corporate media is a complete propaganda organ of the Right. Their "news media" are simply marketing venues. Their newscasters and pundits are merely marketing personnel.
Expecting integrity, accuracy, fairness or professionalism from the MSM is like expecting Coca-Cola's marketing division to fairly and accurately report on news from Pepsi. That's not their job.
Rusty Hussein-Legged Mack Daddy Shackleford @ 1:
Vietnamese, Iraqi, what's the difference to crazy Johnny?
Left&Left @ 4:
"Charlie is in Iran!"
I'm really tired of this "anyone could've made that mistake" garbage. A person running for President of the United States shouldn't be just "anyone." He should know what the fuck he's talking about.
Rusty Hussein-Legged Mack Daddy Shackleford @ 1:
McCain's military experience includes almost sending the USS Forestall to the bottom of the China sea after his plane "misfired" a rocket while still on deck, getting shot down after less than a couple dozen flights, and signing all those anti-American statements while at the "Hanoi Hilton."
If he has a shred of credibility, he would have publicly chastised or even left the GOP after the disgraceful incident of all those GOP delegates wearing those "purple hear band aids." But since he is a fucking whore, let him run on his military record... please, I am not willing to give him any respect that he has long lost. Respect is earned, nor granted... and you can milk the whole "POW" bullshit for so long. Most of his POW colleagues did suffer the same torture, did not sign the anti-American crap, and did not use their POW experience as a jumping point for political and personal gains. To me McCain milking his POW status is an affront to those who did suffer with him, since he is the only thing he has to run on... he is cheapening the sacrifice and service of a lot of people.
I was not taken aback by the attacks on Kerry, as much as I was mortified for what they did to McCleland: a vet who lost both legs and an arm by diving on a live grenade to protect his comrades. And the GOP shitted on him... and now they want to sell us the whole "War Hero" bullshit now? There is a special ring of hell for this scum buckets... Fuck the lot of them...
Nice John. But "Democrats don't play that game [meaning swift boating]." The Clintons?
Senator SlimeBall's record as America's first and only 'Reverse Ace', he lost five planes during his career to make him #1 in that dubious category, is great, riveting stuff but what about The 'Magic Man' and his running....
Without coattails.....
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
John I just happened to catch it live on tv. I was laying on my bed almost asleep and I hear the words, John Amato. I became wide awake fast. You made the C&L family proud.
I did notice how John was cut off when he mentioned what's going on in Iraq. Nope no time for talking about reality.
I just saw a new ad for McCain. It shows him laying on the cot in Vietnam and talking to his his guard or someone. Does anyone besides me think he can overplay the fact that he was a POW. To me, that really is his primary military experience. He hasn't much else.
pissed off patricia @ 10:
Perhaps some future candidate for president of Iraq can use a picture of himself at Abu Ghraib for similar purposes.
rekroc @ 6:
After 5 yrs of war in the zone, 1 million civilians killed, millions of refugees, 4k American troops killed, and almost $1 Trillion in expenses... you would think a jackass who has only one thing to run on: war on "terror." You would think that at least he would have the mental capability to get the basics of the area right, like for example the fucking difference between Shias and Sunnis. It takes what? A 10 minute briefing, a couple of paragraphs tops in background? And this jackass can't even get that right...
Dollar Brand @ 8:
I never consider DLCers to be democrats, more like GOPlites... so in a sense John may be correct.
Hi guys..It was fun. I tried to get my point across...I didn't see the banner below me that said The REBRANDING OF McCain or I would have talked about that...
Excellent point about John Kerry. It doesn't matter to Republicans that he'd served his country honorably in Vietnam - and why? Because he was a Democrat. You certainly won't see the Swiftboat Veterans for "Truth" calling out McCain on his service.
We need to push to wrap up the nomination. The Democrats cannot afford to wait, and we certainly cannot afford to have Al Gore run as a 'compromise candidate'. The time for compromise has been over for eight years.
It is waste of time going on these shows. The dice is always rigged against the Liberal. They cut him off as soon as he started talking about how bad Iraq was. Their mission is to convince America that the DEMS are divided and McCain is a war hero. Funny how they are going to play up McCain's war record when they attacked Kerrys. But that is the double standard of the right. The Republican woman had a really stupid voice. That alone was worth attacking.
A mainstream news organization bends over backwards to protect a profitable-for-them right-wing candidate. And in other news, the sky is blue and a bear was rumored to have shit out a Nazi pope in the woods, or something equally mundane.
aaaaawyeah, amato!!
too sexy! TOO sexy!
:)
McCain is now a criminal. He has broken the campaign finance law! No one in the media is talking about this fact. McCain is a criminal.
Oh my John, I didn't even notice the banner because I was looking at you and listening.
Pat Leahy said on radio that Hillary should bring her campaign to an end. He also mentioned how many gaffs McCain is being allowed to get away with while everyone pays attention to the Hillary and Obama campaigns.
Everyone please give to smiletrain . If you dont know what that is, shame on you.
DC @ 19:
Or about the fact that he was not born in the US, but hey he is a Republican so the media ignores it.
well, we here in the blogosphere shouild keep screaming.
Let us ask: what does it matter that McCain was a 'military man'? Does being a grunt automatically grant one omniscience in defense affairs? I know three individuals in my personal life who either are or have been members of a branch of the United States Armed Services, and not one of them feigns to know the slightest about foreign affairs. I don't think any of them even know altogether too much about the technological aspect of military service; none of them could tell you about the material sciences which go into constructing shell-proof armor for tanks, for example.
It's time for blogs to begin conducting their own campaign against McCain, by calling into question things that the right-wing media won't touch. The grassroots today is more powerful than at any other time, and most of us are more knowledgeable than any mindless talking head. Let us step in for the Democrats while they're too busy bickering amongst our own and take charge of the debate until such a time as someone (hopefully Obama) wraps up the nomination. If it would be possible to form a coalition between liberal and leftist blogs, we could handily destroy the Republicans before any Democrat even steps up to the debate podium.
John Amato @ 14:
good job, JA. you're lucky they didn't put 'liberal pundit' under you as a caption. they're msm. unfortunately you keep your expectations high. that's good character, I'll admit and I'm glad you have those feelings. you're better than they are.
John,
Stick with the blog.
You do not come across well on video.
You look like you're drunk.
At least borrow a jacket from someone that matches your shirt!
"John McCain has been getting dissed..."
I can't believe a reporter just said that.
I went to Townhall.com just to see what they like to discuss.
here's a list of subjects that are blogged about most over in the Land of "Conservatoria":
Blogs by Issue
Campaigns & Elections (1775)
Media & Culture (1710)
Foreign Affairs (1566)
Faith & Family (1559)
A Culture of Life (1555)
Immigration (1437)
Budget & Government (1383)
Education (1332)
Judges & Courts (1239)
Safety & Security (1219)
Jobs & Economy (1172)
Energy & Environment (1084)
Second Amendment (1031)
Science & Technology (1000)
Tax Relief (989)
Health Care (938)
Social Security (797)
Property Rights (385)
what is missing from this list of thigs that really should concern Americans?
anyone?
anyone?
Like I have said before, his "war hero" status along with his being a POW seems to put him behind some sort of political firewall. He seems untouchable in those two categories. So we move from there....what other experiences does he have that would make him better to handle this invasion in Iraq? He admits he knows little to nothing about economics.
So the main thing on most people's mind today is the economy
The second and third things are health care and the war.
Where is McCain's niche?
It is past time Clinton and Obama turned their sights on McCain. He is getting a free pass from the media, which we all knew would happen, so the Dems have to attack twice as hard. And keep calling the media on their bias.
We need to think strategically.
As it stands now, blogs act as something of a lobbyist bloc, but we're not unified. There are a large number of blogs with large numbers of viewers, such as C&L, DailyKos, etc., but we don't really work together. Right now, so far as I see it, we're stuck in a sort of mode where every blog basically does its own thing, and while a few blogs might by happenstance bring to light something at the same time, there's rarely a concerted effort across the grassroots to force a particular issue up and front.
That needs to change. If it were possibly for the grassroots to gel together - that is to say, form something approaching a united consensus, complete with a nominal de facto leadership - we might really be able to change things. A dozen blogs discussing one particular issue is much more effective than a hundred discussing things haphazardly, after all.
rekroc @ 6:
yes, he absolutely should. however, there's more at work than just an unintentional gaffe of course. a sadly sizable percentage of the american population doesn't know the difference between sunni and shia or that iran is shia or any of that. so a large part of what was actually at play with mccain was an INTENTIONAL conflating of the two parties into one scary AY-rab enemy. unfortunately, that point is getting far too little coverage.
I just sent off a critical email to MSNBC regarding Mark Mullens. Here is the text:
Wow!
MSNBC brings John Amato on to talk about the pass McCain receives from the press
and is interrupted by Mark Mullen when he talks about how the crumbling "surge"
in Iraq should be hurting McCain!
Mark Mullen would rather talk about Al Gore jumping in the race? Why pretend to
talk about the media soft shoe for McCain if you aren't going to let critics
of the soft shoe talk? So you can say you covered soft media coverage of McCain?
You can do better than that.
Then I signed it. If more of us did that maybe things would change (hint hint)
Canuknotusa @ 26:
Show me you fashion police badge. I want your name and badge number. :)
John Amato @ 14:
Well you had 30 seconds so I think you did a good job. If someone told me, "Tell me what you think about John McCain, 30 seconds," I would still be gathering my thoughts by the time they turned to the next person. I don't understand the rationale behind such short segments.
"Garlic nose" ranted Wright.
Anyhoo, MSNBC will back the corporate candidate Mclobbyists and is supporting Obama so they can turn on him to help their corporate candidate.
At least one blogger called them on their bias for mcbushie.
Nice work piasan.
Smitty @ 33:
Very well done.
We need to have a directory established that details the contact information of every single individual of interest at work in the media industry. As it stands now, I have to use Google-fu to get any information of this sort, and I don't like that. We need to compile this information for easy access. Does anybody want to take a crack at it?
McCain - war hero - free pass.
Obama - historic - free pass.
Now what?
pissed off patricia @ 34:
Yeah, we'll send Fox Security right over!
Canuknotusa @ 26:
WHAT?! what are you, the canadian simon cowell?! jealousy doesn't become you, cannuck.
All Trades @ 38:
Except that's not at all accurate. Where were you when the Reverend Wright 'controversy' broke - and, more importantly, when the Reverend Hagee controversy didn't
Have a list of five points to hit, and get at least something in on each one.
McCain gets a free pass by Main Stream Media. Check.
McCain spending is breaking the law. Missed it.
Keating Five, 16 grand in bribes. Missed it.
Lobbyist influence, not just the one he's accused of having an affair with. Missed it.
McCain pushed for Bush's surge. Missed it.
Also, for each talking point there's going to be a standard denial or an attempt to dismiss it. Be ready for dismissals with "Easy to ignore tough questions when your job depends on it."
Visual presentation: You looked like Jimmy Kimmel smiling after he just farted. Sit up straight, put on your concerned citizen face. I'd carry a clipboard, too, with your five points. You can consult it as you tick them off, using it as both a tool and a prop.
John Amato @ 14:
Not so sure that one could call it rebranding so much as repackaging. You know, like they do at Winn Dixie with meat that's passed its' best before date. Sprinkle a little dry rub on it and presto it's good as new.
Dollar Brand @ 8:
I'm not saying that they play clean all of the time-- but what have they done that is the equivalent of swiftboating?
All Trades @ 38:
Now what?
It's McCain v/s Obama.
The battle of the century.
Two perfect people.
How to spin it?
David and Goliath? New v/s old?
Historic v/s old?
Reliable v/s fresh face?
Experience v/s unknown potential?
Let me know when it's all over.
I'm going to watch reruns of "Who wants to be a millionaire."
jimbo92107 @ 42:
More:
McCain's relationship to Hagee and Parsley as a counterbalance to Reverend Wright
McCain's 'maverick' persona as a sort of role-playing used to disguise his very real relationship to the Kristols and other neocon organizations
McCain's relationship to the media - you ought to have mentioned his birthday party
You still did a good job on the whole, however. Let's try to co-ordinate our attacks in the future, however - we have to speak loudly, and carry an even bigger stick.
Matt Hussein in Texas @ 39:
No, Not O'Reilly's police brigade!
Whens McCain going to be asked how the troops feel as they fight against an enemy under circumstances intentionally designed by sociopaths to prevent the US military from achieving any kind of a victory?
ckukahiko @ 32:
which is even funnier since Iranians are Persian, not Arab. But hey, who cares? Facts just get in the way of war-mongering vitriol.
John Amato @ 14:
I'm impressed that they're relying on your expertise. I'm no expert but I recommend staying away from the swivel chair. It makes you look a little cocky- which you should be, but you don't want to 'look' it.
What a right-wing love fest that was. Funny, the guy kept asking the right-wing chippie what SHE thought about what's going on with the Democratic party. Was John asked specifically about McCain? And when John talked about how McCain is promising to continue Bush's bad policies, all the sudden, it was time to keep the conversation going and on to a new subject. I mean, the guy EXCUSED McCain's "gaffe" as just a mistake. John, you should have hammered him on that alone. "Why are you helping John McCain? Aren't you supposed to be impartial?" You might as well not even appear on shows like that, since you can't adequately counter bullshit arguments coming from the moderator and the winger.
jimbo92107 @ 42:
They gave him 30 seconds to talk! Even if he had his McCain cheat sheet in front of him I am not sure he could effectively deliver all of those points.
Another thought on strategizing:
The Catholic bloc often votes lockstep with the Religious Right; although they tend to be slightly more socially liberal, they seem to be even harsher when it comes to economic conservatism. Can the Hagee endorsement be used as a wedge here? We know already that Bill Donahue is up in arms over it.
A list of mcbushies flip flops will come in handy for the general.
w used it against Kerry and mcbushies list is long.
He is running on stay the course in Iraq which took a thumpin in 06 and nothing else.
Let's face some facts, shall we?
So, he doesn't look drunk?
And appearing on national media shouldn't mean being concerned about appearing drunk?
Keep dreaming.
Nice job landing on M$NBC, JA!
Too bad those punks buried you on a Friday night time slot... :(
RueMorgue @ 37:
Just go to Mediamatters.org. They have the 411 on everyone media. I wrote to phil.griffin@msnbc.com, letters@msnbc.com.
Good try John A.... Guess there's been just a whole hell of a lot of changing the subject going in this nation... On all kinds of issues... for about what is it, eight years now??? Seems like it was only a million years ago that everyone was all caught up in stains on blue dresses... We should be so lucky as to have 'only' something like that to worry over these days............JD
RueMorgue @ 41:
Yeah. The controversy was about Wright talking about the "chickens coming home to roost" - a foreign policy issue.
Obama condemns the "controversy" and then gives a homemade speech about race. The subject is now race. The media
swoons. Marvelous. Controversy over.
Now they pulled out the "garlic noses" line. The controversy re-ignites. (It should. As a Jew, I wouldn't want my candidate sitting idly by if their pastor referred to "Jew noses".
Oh, I forgot to mention the Al Gore issue.
When Douchbag threw Gore into the conversation, you should have immediately smacked that down as a planted distraction.
Has Al Gore announced his intention to grab the nomination?
Where did we first hear about this wild Gore theory?
Answer: from MSM right wing concern trolls like Joe Klein.
I'm sorry, you don't know what a "concern troll" is?
Google it.
The MEDIA was taken over during the 90's by the same people and institutions that President Eisenhower warned us about at the end of his presidency during his farewell speech. Of course the media gave him a free ride. It's not like the media is free anymore.
I didn't realize that was John on MSNBC when I was watching at lunch. He's a goofy looking/acting sob. Also, when he said "eveybody likes Al Gore," I about spit out my lunch.
All Trades @ 59:
And Wright was right on the foreign policy issue. Be offended if you wish, I don't especially care, but we ought to withdraw every single penny and piece of equipment we've donated to Israel for the pasty fifty years. It was the media that initially spinned Wright into a 'black separatist', mind; Obama's speech was in regards to countering this initial spin.
Yes how about a nice list of all of the Flip Flops by McCain. Avery factual list with all of the facts clearly stated.
googoomuck @ 61:
Goes back farther than that, goo
Check out "The Media Monopoly" by Ben Bagdikian - I think its in its 5th or 6th edition...
googoomuck @ 61:
Obviously, no one got it.
Chris H. @ 52:
That was why he has to be ready with "Easy to ignore the tough questions when your job depends on it." The first thing they'll do is dismiss your arguments or promise "We'll talk about that on another segment." = BIG FAT LIE.
Liberals will never get to really attack the issues until after we break down the MSM's rhetorical wall of silence. We've got to treat all corporate media as participants in the cover-up of these crimes and abuses. They will never willingly allow us to speak truth to power.
Bring back the Fairness Doctrine.
jimbo92107 @ 67:
You nailed it.
Canuknotusa @ 55:
No, he didn't appear drunk to me. Of course he had just left my house in a taxi on his way to the studio and he and I had only had three martinis each before he left. I thought he did damned well, all things considered.
I'm pretty sure that I'm not dreaming because I can't type when I'm asleep.
BigSky @ 62:
That's the way to do it. When you don't really have anything to say, get personal. Sounds like it may often work for you. Here however, not so much.
Canuknotusa @ 55:
Thank you for your "concern", most touching.
The times actually did a forum on the HIV gaffe. it will cost him younger and internationally aware voters.
Immediately following the douchebag's defense of McCain before any discussion was allowed to take place, Amato should've stood up, said "you've just proved my point", removed his mic, turned and walked away while flipping the bird. Fuck the corporate whores. Whats the point of going on?
Ever so slowly the tee vee includes John, Kos, Sam, in addition to Rachel. I hope this reflects the puke email they must be getting re the same old Buchanans, Millbanks, Wolf. It was exciting on Feb 5 08 primary night to see John, Rachel, and (sorry I forget exactly who) another web blog person on MSNBC at the same time - 3 great voices allowed to say something real. Thanks John!
pissed off patricia @ 70:
Yeah, that corporate guy pimped this blog so the trolls will spew.
I am surprised he was watching MSNBC and not fixed noise.
kravitz @ 72:
And it will shore up his African-American voter base, many of whom wrongly believe that HIV was purposefully introduced by the government. Is that necessarily right? No, but it's no more wrong than the Christian who votes Republican out of fear of the 'New World Order', or the Jew who does the same because he's so terribly afraid that the Democrats will cut off handouts to Israel.
I didn't think he looked drunk, I thought he was goin' for the "yes we're in a recession" look. That being said, the picture at the top could be a little more flattering. I vote for the graph.
pissed off patricia @ 10:
Yes PoP, the fact that McCain was a POW has been way overplayed. No doubt he endured a lot of nasty shit as a POW, but that doesn't make him a fucking war hero for life. And the experience certainly does not make him more qualified on national defense or security. He's gotten way too much undeserved and unchallenged mileage on the POW angle.
"""No one cares about blogs,""" exceptf for, C&L, Townhall.org, Drudge, Poh-lee-ti-co, HuffPO, Malkin, Coulter, Kos.... [snark]
No Dem is going to vote for McGrandpaMcVeteran. No Dem will allow the GOP to prevail, not if they have any fight in them. They're (we're-- I'm not American) simply choosing a candidate. The Dems are alive and kicking and the GOP is inert, and splintered/splintering. The GOP base is off on one of their fucked-up tamngents, as usual. Things looking good for Dems across the board.
canuk,
stick to loonies.com or ilovealanismorissette.org, eh? leave the u.s. to us.
getalife @ 75:
I'm beginning to wonder if there's a difference between the two nowadays.
Except for KO.
Edwin Hussein (not a scary black Reverend) @ 79:
I agree, but we can have a monumental victory if all the liberal blogs were to unify for this election cycle. Imagine, if I may engage in Republicanesque imagery for a moment, a unified Coalition of the Willing marching through the sandblasted political arena, tossing aside all comers like so many bales of hay... to paraphrase our Chimperor, isn't it so romantic?
Edwin Hussein (not a scary black Reverend) @ 79:
tamgent- a Scottish knight in headwear?
John some day society will recognize our right to marry each other...
*gets tazered for the stalker I am*
John,
How did you manage to keep a straight face? Mark Muellin gave a perfect demonstration of exactly what you were talking about with the press whoring for McCain when he interupted you. What an idiot. Then he tries to divert the discussion into irrelevancies, finally attempting to depict the Democrats as hopelessly divided and bickering. He proves the agenda you accuse him of and blithely continues to drive on. I would have been laughing so hard at it that they would have had to cut my mic.
NBC... just one more reason I will never patronize GE or its subsidiaries.
getalife @ 75:
I always enjoy seeing John on TV but you can just about set your watch by the ensuing troll run.
There he is. Mr. Amato. Kick ass!
[Deleted. Please keep it civil. Amato can stick up for himself. And I let Big Sky go because his comment is usually countered by about twenty comments calling Amato "cute"/"handsome", etc.. Don't need to inflate
the MastersJohn's ego any more. ;D Site Monitor]It's difficult to hear everything the host says in the ear piece so I missed a little...I was going to talk about the McCain/FEC petition next, but we switched topics fast...sign up if you haven't already:
http://action.firedoglake.com/page/pt/mccainfec/
I was going to ask how McCain paid for the ad because he's in violation.
cray86 @ 84:
lol...
The MSNBC moron had an agenda to puff up the war hero McCain and then discuss the tabloid elements of the Democratic race and suggest it'd hurting them. He was not going to be sidetracked by anything Amato was talking about and was certainly NOT going to get into a discussion of the media providing cover for McCain. Obviously not, since he had just done that very thing. When bringing up McCain's "verbal gaffe," he's careful to insert "...which really could happen to a lot of people." Is it really too much to ask that we see a few moderate, intelligent hosts on these shows instead this steady stream of Republican groupies and shit-for-brains airheads. Gore running for VP? NOBODY really believes that. Why waste time talking even about it.
Canuknotusa @ 26:
Oh no! Very John Garfield.
Right on John! You rock!!
So thats what you look like!
DORK :-)
John Amato @ 89:
The "..." was mooore than appropriate. At least you got the joke ;) (although it infers total respect)
L.A. Confidential @ 68:
But what I didn't mention is WHY the talking heads won't tell the truth. The answer is simple, but the implications are unsettling. Conventional journalism in this county is dead. It was killed by corporate ownership that is in cahoots with all the other rich and powerful corporations that control our government.
When Hillary Clinton first mentioned the "vast, right wing conspiracy," she neglected to mention, perhaps intentionally, the role of media conglomerates like Rupert Murdoch's. Today the omnipresent silent partner in the conspiracy is very actively keeping vital information away from the eyes and ears of the American people.
That was the trap John Amato stepped into today. One must never mistake a polite, well groomed person as your friend, and one must never assume they will play fair.
John McCain is a horrible human being. He is an egotistical, supremely dishonest old Rambo rabble rouser that wants to attack the whole world to get back for what was done to him by North Vietnamese torturers. You know it and I know it, so what's stopping the MSM from observing this simple truth?
My "five points" advice was a crude beginning. The real goal is to be able to string together a tight litany of talking points in the manner of Howard Dean. Every Democratic politician, liberal pundit and blogger should study Dean's technique and attempt to integrate it into their rhetorical toolkit.
Grok this: Nothing that was done to John Amato during that interview was accidental. The distractions, the diversions and the dismissals were all calculated in advance by media specialists, then executed by their tool. Hell, they probably selected the chair, the lighting, makeup and camera angles to make John look bad. And then the tool let the thug harpy do most of the talking - about Democrats. Imagine that.
These people -the Republicans and their media enablers - are enemies of American democracy. They need to be driven out of public life. Never, ever think that they are your friends, because they aren't, any more than a rented whore really loves you, baby. At best they are playing you; more likely they're looking for a way to destroy you.
John Amato looked like a guy expecting to have a fair conversation. Howard Dean never looks like that on TV. Instead, he looks like he's ready to pounce on any sign of media bias, and he does. That's why the MSM is terrified of Howard Dean. That's why every liberal who goes on TV should work on being just like Dean. We should all terrify these assholes.
John you rock! But: sorry guys, Canuknotusa is right on the money. It's a fact that appearances matter (a lot!), and that was the first thing that I (and probably everyone) noticed when I saw this. John, you're speaking skills have improved, but I think you do need to work on the appearence issue. Get yourself a nice navy suit, a shave and a haircut, and please don't lean back in your seat when speaking (!!!) - it makes it look like you don't give a sh*t, when in fact we all know how much you do! Rock on peeps!
dwalden74 @ 96:
I loves me teh shallow!
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miss_kitty Hussein @ 97:
I heartily disagree.
Amato, show up on camera in your bathrobe. Embrace The Dude within.
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What's with bashing his appearance. The casual look gets the nooky in this town.
I found this blog after seeing John Amato on TV a year or so ago.
Kudos John for getting more camera time. That reporter though (if you can call him a reporter), ***rasberry***
Chris H. @ 27:
This new guy at msnbc is really annoying! Where do they find these shameless corporate tools?
RueMorgue @ 41:
I could be wrong, because I haven't researched this...
But I don't remember hearing Hagee saying anything about 'whitey giving black people AIDS and CRACK'.
Beautiful job John. Sidestepped the cow pies, dismissed the Gore chatter as filling in time until PA, threw the war in his face all the while with kind of a relaxed screen presence that made the host and antagonist allies even with the sound off.
Soooo...Amanda....get a number?
Tyler Durden @ 7:
The rocket was accidentally fired from an F-4 Phantom. McCain did not fly the Phantom.
2b's Mom @ 103:
I'd rate her ass as a nine...
;-}
great john ;)
Mohit @ 106:
Thank you...
RueMorgue @ 63:
A - Offending Jews has nothing to do with how one feels about American foreign policy regarding Israel. You, apparently, wouldn't know that.
B - I also think that Wright was correct on the foreign policy issue. But Obama "condemned" it. F-ck him.
Did great imP2bHo ;-}, looked very relaxed and almost like you were laughing at those two...
Did you have any idea what a sneaky smirking toady Mark Mullencrap was going to be, John?
Also, did they tell you up front how long you were gonna have and what the questions were going to be?
Fuck Mullen! Do you also hear him laughing arrogantly while John's talking?!
That guy's a certified repub brown nose, excusing McSame's gaffe, cutting John off and enormously interested in the negative side effects of the democratic primary. No wonder he felt himself hit by John's remarks.
cute but,
ass
asa nineAt least GE-owned-NBC takes time to invite LIberal bloggers to talk with Townhall reporters. jeez, that Mark Mullen comes off like such a jerk. Even at the start, Amato says 'what's happening." and Mullen, obviously distracted with bloodlust thoughts, doesn't clearly hear the casual courtesy and assumes Amato is "already making fun" of McCain's ad. If you have to watch tv for news, at least watch PBS where discussion is not setup to be combative.
John Amato @ 14:
Great job John!!!
Wow, never realized how chubby John Amato is
2b's Mom @ 111:
FIFY, mom.
Would like to show you the contrition piece I was working on for your approval. I'm thinking of putting it up on the wall at my place and possibly inviting a few friends over, and would love for them to meet you...I think you'd have a good time and lotsa laughs on my dime ;-}
You did fine, John and you looked ok too. You're a liberal blogger, no one expects you to look professional and polished like a Senator or something. But you shouldn't be offended by being cut-off- everyone gets cut off in those 2-3 minute segments when there's three people that need to talk. Plus, when you talk fast and the guy knows you'd just keep pounding McCain the whole time if he let you, it's easy to sense that and it just makes the host a lot quicker with the whistle.
What I don't get is all the people here you allow to trash that Mark Mullen guy. I've never seen him before but my guess is he's somewhat new at it and he was probably a little anxious and wanted to to keep things on topic- his topic maybe, but that's the way those segments go. I think it'd be great for you to get on MSNBC more; I just don't think ragging on the host and the network, or rather letting Logan and all the commenters do it, is the best way to go about getting it done. Maybe I'm wrong though- who knows, I'd think someone like that Keith Olbermann guy on there owes you a little something maybe.
I know, concern troll. Just trying to help. Seriously though, good job. Has to be fun I'd think- gettin' out of the office and all.
dennis @ 116:
At least you self-identify correctly
A.J.Joe @ 117:
Thanks, A.J.
And hey, kudos to you too. Your 'Fuck Mullen' comment @110 was exceptionally classy. Maybe MSNBC will be calling you next for an appearance.
What's with the "reporter" saying confusing the sides in the war is a mistake that "could happen to anybody?" are you kidding? the guy is running for president in the middle of a disasterous war and he doesn't even know the sides! stop giving him a pass!!!
cray86 @ 84:
Some day society might recognize our right to marry each other...
but don't look to Obama for support.
Here he is - talking about our rights and why he doesn't support them:
“I’m a Christian, and so although I try not to have my religious beliefs dominate or determine my political views on this issue, I do believe that tradition and my religious beliefs say that marriage is something sanctified between a man and a woman.”
I'm not sure about how he feels about whites marrying blacks or Jews marrying gentiles.
People have hidden behind Christianity to oppose these rights as well.
The only change you can believe in with respect to Obama is whatever might have fallen out of his pants pocket.
dennis @ 118:
Yeah, I guess it ruined my off chance of some face time. I'm sure they'll call you up, though. Anyway, I just wanted to convey my honest feelings after seemingly having watched a FOX News interview on MSNBC. But hey, maybe he was just somewhat new at and a little anxious.
John looks a little like Al Capone in that "still"!!!
sorry, amato.
the best attack pit bulls the american left has to offer refuse to go to work on john mccranky until obama's got it clinched.
RightOn @ 120:
hillary hasn't promised you anything obama hasn't. furthermore, she belongs to a creepy d.c. "christian" cult. look it up.
good job, john!
J.C. @ 90:
And it can! 90% of the drunken elderly people I mingle with at horseshoe and bocce ball tournaments can't tell a Scotsman from a Laotian, let alone a Sunni from a Shiite. Despite them making a perfectly understandable mistake, you're quick to judge them and disqualify them from the highest office in the land. Bigot, stomper of dreams!!
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 115:
Awaiting your input and ok on the final product, thinking of a private showing in a small window of mutually convenient dimensions, if you have the time...
;-}
John, great job on the air today. Nice Queens boy, you are.
The media is going to have their strategy backfire because no matter how pissed off Obama supporters are at Clinton and vice versa, they are never going to vote for More War McCain. We simply cannot afford it financially and in terms of lives. How many times will he have to recycle the troops? He'll have a mutiny on his hands... and god forbid he tries to reinstate the draft. Fuggeddabowdit.
Assassin @ 126:
LOL!
(have you seen my mom around? I left her a coupla massages.)
Any time John can get on TV is a good thing. The more people who read C+L the better. As I write it says 219,061,801 visitors. I realize about 16,000,003 of those visits are mine but so what.
Chip says:
John looks a little like Al Capone in that “still”!!!
No way! Al Capone was a brutto Napolitano! John is a handsome Siciliano!
I second that, Janey.
1. McCain's personal bravery aside; his military expertise is overblown. He's a bomber guy. He doesn't show a command of understanding land warfare. Very, very few bomber guys understand the full spectrum of land warfare - land is where people live - not in the air, not on or under the water.
2. A shrewd editor or producer would rotate ones reporters on campaigns. Rotation precludes a version of the Stockholm syndrome from setting into the reporter's report and precludes the nonsense of real or imagined "access" or favoritism. Recall the reporters' story from the early days of Bill Clinton's campaign in New Hampshire in which all of the 20+ reporters in a room realized that all of them supported Clinton - real start on objective reporting, sportsfans.
This whole thing was so shamelessly biased in favor of McCain, it made me sick. Sorry, but John Amato didn't come out so well, mostly because he was not allowed to speak, And it's true that his demeanor, as someone in just for a chat, didn't help. From the start, I got the feeling that the NBC guy was trying to ridicule him, while McCain girl chuckled in the background. What we got to see quite clearly, though, was McCain's ad, the young Vietnam hero, so that we can forget that he's old. While at the the bottom we are asked "Who can SAVE the Democrats? WTF? Honestly, the only thing the interviewer needed was McCain button on his lapel.
Sickening!
pissed off patricia @ 10:
Not only did he cut John Amato off, he recited John McCain's alibi for getting the combatants wrong in Iraq. "We could all get it wrong" he said. This is subtle, this is conservative and this will go on and on throughout the general campaign season. MSNBC has no intention on letting Amato speak the truth about the media's bias.
When you think about it, Amato owns the site where the truth is allowed to live. On this site, denial has a back seat roll. We call like it is. I think MSNBC is doing what is common among the conservative media. By having Amato on, they can say they are fair and balanced, even if they cut him off or direct the conversation away from any anti-conservative disclosure.
Nevertheless, I am always proud of Amato's attempt to set the record straight. MSNBC can take lessons from him. They could use it.
Joseph
[Deleted. One thing you can't hide is when you're crippled inside. H/T John Lennon-Sitemonitor]
Right On! John!
You go Boyyyyyyyyy!
ya know what?
I'm PROUD of all you guys and gals.
Don't Stop to watch the wheels go round.
Did I say PROUD loud enough.
cause if I didn't. I want to correct that .
mudshark @ 139:
Somebody lookin for me? I thought I heard somebody yellin my name....was kinda muddy tho...
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 140:
don't step into the mud. cause I'm alway here.just waitin.
ok,maybe it's time to go....my spelling is taking a header...........AlwayS Yikes!
mudshark @ 142:
you seem to be having your period at odd times also - could just be spotting, tho
Rusty Hussein-Legged Mack Daddy Shackleford @ 1:
Don't make fun of John McCain's military record in Vietnam , besides there are reported connections between Al Qaeda and HO CHI MIN .
I thought John was on target bringing up John Kerry, his military experience, and the Republican swift boats. Along with the McCain adoring press.
To tie them together in terms of how the press enabled the swift boats every step of the way. And now how they love McCain's military experience.
The question comes to mind that the media likes a POW that surrendered to become a POW and within the first few weeks of his in country service, Verses the Kerry military service and those that called them selves swift boaters for truth. The truth is the ambassadorship the lead swift boater was gifted by Bush in return for the attacks on Kerry during the campaign.
I only wish John would have asked, " Why does the press allow McCain to make speeches as in L.A. recently. Were McCain states his disgust with America torturing people. But during the GOP nominee campaign, McCain made sure to return to the Senate to vote in FAVOR of torture?
Why does the McCain BBQ press not report this?
John if you read this, Can you address it?
rekroc @ 6:
And this would explain our current President, how?
ROFL is Mullen working for McCain?
Amato: "And he always talks about the surge. Look at whats happening in Iraq today. Basra is a mess.."
Mullen: "Yeah.."
Amato: "The Iraqi forces are going down.."
Mullen: "That.. that.. We'll do that on another segment. Lets stick to this, because I really
oops hit the submit button too soon..
Amato brings up McCains Iraq-surge falling apart and Mullen goes "LALALALA I cant hear you! Lets talk about the bitter democrats fighting eachother instead!", proving the exact point Amato made just seconds earlier.
Mpls_Dem @ 49:
These are the words spoken by John McCain, "I am a black criminal and I have performed the deeds of an air pirate. I almost died, and the Vietnamese people saved my life, thanks to the doctors." If a GI made that statement during my war (Korea) he was a "turncoat" but to the Repugs, today, that person is a hero
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