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Joe Lieberman is taking a page out of Dick Cheney's playbook and carefully connected al-Qaeda to Iran with an answer he gave to Nora O'Donnell on MSNBC moments ago. Much has been made of McCain's foreign policy gaffe on his middle east tour when he said that Shia/Iran was training the Sunni/al-Qaeda. Lieberman had to whisper the correct answer in his ear at that time to correct that fallacy. However, we can see a clear pattern of deception the Senator from CT is using to try and once again confuse the American public about the nonexistent ties between al-Qaeda and Iran.

Liebermann: ...we can do it on conditions on the ground, but if we just pull out there will be chaos, maybe genocide and al-Qaeda and Iran will win.

Al-Qaeda is a very small percentage of the resistance that is on going in Iraq as we all know. Why hasn't Holy Joe addressed the ethnic cleansing that has already occurred in Iraq between the Sunni and Shia's militias in Baghdad alone? Joe can't do that and admit the horror that he has enabled already. His only hope is to confuse the public into thinking that al-Qaeda is aligned with Iran. Have you no decency, sir?

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King of Kings's picture

Yeah this is football: we all can't win.

Prairie Sunshine's picture

No. He has none.

We support our troops...alive and whole and home.

Loonie's picture

"Have you no decency, sir?"

Ooh! Ooh! I can answer that one. No, he hasn't, and his actions have made this abundantly clear.

Geraldo's picture

Loonie @ 3:

"Have you no decency, sir?"

Ooh! Ooh! I can answer that one. No, he hasn't, and his actions have made this abundantly clear.

And he's O.K. with that.

killthepoor's picture

Israel is buying oil (secretly) from Iran.

TG's picture

These obviously aren't "gaffes". They're intentionally trying to mislead the American public.

On the Clock's picture

I gotta say, I just loooovveee caucusing with this guy. I can't wait to do it again next session.

lj's picture

Are there any analysts out there who can tell us what has happened to the previously admirable Lieberman? Is it because he's so loyal an Israel supporter that it doesn't matter if this war goes on forever, and potentially harm Israel more? Or has he always been this conservative? Have the voters of Connecticut said anything (in a statewide pole or?) if their feelings have changed about him? If so, does he acknowledge any criticism?

Orangutan.'s picture

Who does Lieberman represent anyway.

burnt's picture

Orangutan. @ 9:

Who does Lieberman represent anyway.

Connecticut independents.

Yellow Elephant Safari's picture

lj @ 8:

Are there any analysts out there who can tell us what has happened to the previously admirable Lieberman? Is it because he's so loyal an Israel supporter that it doesn't matter if this war goes on forever, and potentially harm Israel more? Or has he always been this conservative? Have the voters of Connecticut said anything (in a statewide pole or?) if their feelings have changed about him? If so, does he acknowledge any criticism?

It's not a mystery. Once you understand that lieberman is a Mossad mole the rest falls into place.

Yellow Elephant Safari's picture

Orangutan. @ 9:

Who does Lieberman represent anyway.

The ultra right wing Israel elite.

Emma Hussein Goldman's picture

Should have voted for LaMont, people!

Of course this is intentional! The average stupid American who is addicted to Fox News and Britney's antics doesn't know the difference between Iraq and Iran, Sunni and Shiite, and religion and fantasy.

The more Lieberman and McCain and the republicans repeat these fallacies, the more ingrained they become in the public perception. People are stupid! These bastards are just using that as a tool to get what they want. Face it, we live in a nation of imbeciles - this blog (and ones like it) are not at all representative of the majority American thought.

much more at my blog...

hood's picture

Asking Lieberman if has any decency is the complete definition of sarcasm.

Edwin Hussein (a boo$h booer)'s picture

Have you no decency, sir? ----->Thanks for the, uninteded, laugh.
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To the wing-nuts, everyone "over there", with brown skin, is an Islamofascist-Al Qaeda-Shi'ite-backed-Iranian-terra-iss. Did I leave anyone out? Its one big pot of evil they'd like to eradicate.
______________________________________

And {{{9 Orangutan. Says}}}: Who does Lieberman represent anyway.

--->> Himself. Don't they all?

tyree's picture

please dont call this stinking mossad agent ,sir!

hood's picture

DaveTheAngryRhodeIslander @ 14:

Of course this is intentional! The average stupid American who is addicted to Fox News and Britney's antics doesn't know the difference between Iraq and Iran, Sunni and Shiite, and religion and fantasy.

The more Lieberman and McCain and the republicans repeat these fallacies, the more ingrained they become in the public perception.

People are stupid! These bastards are just using that as a tool to get what they want. Face it, we live in a nation of imbeciles - this blog (and ones like it) are not at all representative of the majority American thought.

much more at my blog...

"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --George.W. Bush. Greece, N.Y., May 24, 2005

bill lieman's picture

Are these guys this dumb or do they think that we are?

JasonS's picture

But, I thought this man was supposed to be the vice president? Isn't that what we're all supposed to want?

Dr. Hussein Matt's picture

The reich-wing's pairing of al-Qaeda and Iran in same breath is analogous to pairing anything and everything left-leaning to fascism.

Dr. Hussein Matt's picture

hood @ 18:

DaveTheAngryRhodeIslander @ 14:

Of course this is intentional! The average stupid American who is addicted to Fox News and Britney's antics doesn't know the difference between Iraq and Iran, Sunni and Shiite, and religion and fantasy.

The more Lieberman and McCain and the republicans repeat these fallacies, the more ingrained they become in the public perception.

People are stupid! These bastards are just using that as a tool to get what they want. Face it, we live in a nation of imbeciles - this blog (and ones like it) are not at all representative of the majority American thought.

much more at my blog...

"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --George.W. Bush. Greece, N.Y., May 24, 2005

This morning I was surfing through Sirius Radio, I stopped on Faux for kicks, and Brian and the Judge were telling their myopic and pathetic base that al-Qaeda and Saddam were connected and that WMD were found.

John's picture

Lieberman cares about the interest of Israel and only Israel...isn't that what we call treason?

Lieberman & Gore's picture

For those Democrats that haven't figured it out yet, one reason Independents did not vote for Gore/Lieberman in 2000 was because of Lieberman and his policies. Lieberman hasn't changed; only extremism has come out of the closet.

getalife's picture

CNN is talking about the biggest outrage of these hearings.

Iraq has a 60 billion dollar surplus of oil money.

Cut the funding for Iraqi welfare.

Spend on our country.

bluebill's picture

iran won the minute these evil/corrupt/incompetent bastards lied us into this mess. funny thing is, take away the radical, unforgiving, violent "my god is the only god crowd", and we'd have a staunch USA supporter. a foreign policy to bolster the secular democratic forces in iran, aka filthy intellectuals and college students who long for real freedom and admire the "old" USA is our best bet for long lasting peace.

but without war, there is no war profit. more war, more profit.

i want to throw up now.

Dr. Hussein Matt's picture

getalife @ 25:

Iraq has a 60 billion dollar surplus of oil money.

If herr dubyah had any ballz he would be sending over a squadron of cargo aircraft to collect that money personally.

tehghey's picture

Iran won when we invaded.

JasonS's picture

Lieberman & Gore @ 24:

For those Democrats that haven't figured it out yet, one reason Independents did not vote for Gore/Lieberman in 2000 was because of Lieberman and his policies. Lieberman hasn't changed; only extremism has come out of the closet.

Fucking precisely. I haven't heard too many Dems falling all over themselves to THANK Ralph Nader for keeping Lieberman out of the White House. I guess he can only be BLAMED for that.

Bonkers Hussein's picture

hood @ 18:

DaveTheAngryRhodeIslander @ 14:

Of course this is intentional! The average stupid American who is addicted to Fox News and Britney's antics doesn't know the difference between Iraq and Iran, Sunni and Shiite, and religion and fantasy.

The more Lieberman and McCain and the republicans repeat these fallacies, the more ingrained they become in the public perception.

People are stupid! These bastards are just using that as a tool to get what they want. Face it, we live in a nation of imbeciles - this blog (and ones like it) are not at all representative of the majority American thought.

much more at my blog...

"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --George.W. Bush. Greece, N.Y., May 24, 2005

I keep putting food on my family; on their arms and legs, on their shirts, in their shoes, I even rub food in their hair and yet they STILL LOOK HUNGRY! I don't understand! He'p meh, Preznit Boosh!

dadams's picture

LIEberman has been a willing mouthpiece for the reichwingneocons
and he deceived his constituents when he was a democrat and
especially lied to them when he ran as an independent.
he is not honest and is part of the fascist movement in this
country. hopefully, this year his constitutents will vote
him completely out of office. if mcfuckhead choses him as a
running mate, maybe LIEberman will run for the one office
and not two offices like he did with john kerry.

bozhidar balkas's picture

i'm not sure lieberman is not a zionist. and we know that zionists are not happy with just all of palestine. they possess it now. if zionists would settle for suchs a small and impoverished land then that would be failure for them because neither of the two torah claims would have been fulfilled. thus US/IOF desperately needs at least one more war to obtain parts of lebanon, syria, and jordan.
zionists also kow that at this time or even in decades, no arab country will attack israel. yet, as zionists say, israel is tiny and with indefensible borders; thus unwittingly giving us information that it must be larger. it can get larger only thru war (s).
we also know that israel is de facto amerirican 52nd state. that means that if any country would attack israel, it would be attacking. and semites which gave us writng among other things are nor stupid.
in addition, arab world is deeply divided about US/israeli alliance. half of these lands are now towing US line. thank you.

dadams's picture

killthepoor @ 5:

Israel is buying oil (secretly) from Iran.

and this surprises who? we are buying oil from the biggest
supporter of the terrorists, saudi arabia, so we are
hypocrites and have no moral voice on this issue.
bush and cheney are supporting terrorists with their
ties to saudi arabia.

Pat J's picture

In answer to your question, John, no he has no decency left.

Bradda's picture

TG @ 6:

These obviously aren't "gaffes". They're intentionally trying to mislead the American public.

So true. I said it when McCain first "confused" Sunni and Shiite weeks ago. These aren't gaffes. They are talking points that will be repeated over and over until the lunatic fringe buys into them. At that point Iran had better watch out. We have to keep pointing these lies out to people every chance we get to stop the spreading of propaganda.

dadams's picture

dadams @ 31:

LIEberman has been a willing mouthpiece for the reichwingneocons
and he deceived his constituents when he was a democrat and
especially lied to them when he ran as an independent.
he is not honest and is part of the fascist movement in this
country. hopefully, this year his constitutents will vote
him completely out of office. if mcfuckhead choses him as a
running mate, maybe LIEberman will run for the one office
and not two offices like he did with john kerry.

i have to correct myself........i meant al gore.

dadams's picture

getalife @ 25:

CNN is talking about the biggest outrage of these hearings.

Iraq has a 60 billion dollar surplus of oil money.

Cut the funding for Iraqi welfare.

Spend on our country.

don't see this happening. bush/cheney won't stop the
corporate welfare to the oil companies with their multibillion
dollar profits.

Peterson, A.'s picture

McCain is sickening.
Obama is sickening.

JasonS's picture

> don’t see this happening. bush/cheney won’t stop the
> corporate welfare to the oil companies with their multibillion
> dollar profits.

No one will. Have no illusion: we are not leaving Iraq anytime soon. Obama and Clinton are both flat out lying about that because neither can tell the truth: We. Are. All. In.

They'll recraft it, they'll rebrand it, it won't be a "war," it'll be "helping our friends (my FREEENDS...my FREEENDS), it'll be "aiding global energy security."

But at the end of the day, there will be American bases, American troops and American fingerprints all over Iraq when all of us here are drawing our last breaths.

No one is going to get us out. No one. It's too big. We will never let anyone have that oil. We can't. We need it. And we will not give it up no matter what.

Elections may have consequences, but "changing the strategy in Iraq" will never, never be one of them.

JasonS's picture

Oh, and if you're wondering where we will get the troops, the answer is simple: Mexico.

Millions of young, healthy, able-bodied people motivated to become American citizens. We can either spend money trying to chase them back across the border or we can offer citizenship for service.

Which way do you think we'll go with that?

andy's picture

Lieberman has been doing this for a long time

JasonS's picture

Oh, and if you're wondering how we're going to finance all this, the answer is simple: we will borrow money from China until we can't afford the payments and then we'll push for "regime change" in that country and "liberate" their "illegal" banks.

That's what Panama was all about. The cocaine trade moved billions of dollars in cash money out of the United States and it was languishing there in Panamanian banks. Luckily, we found out that, shock surprise, Noreiga was a, gasp, BAD GUY!

So all that cash ended up back in the Treasury, making the US government the #1 profiteer from the entire drug trade of the 80s.

Okay, so China isn't Panama. This will require more planning. But they won't be holding our money for long.

Ruthless People's picture

"Liebermann: …we can do it on conditions on the ground, but if we just pull out there will be chaos, maybe genocide and al-Qaeda and Iran will win."

Perhaps Joe will send his kids to the front lines to help out. Easy for a chickenhawk to stay the course with somebody else's children.

Peter G's picture

Yet another example of Liebermann/McCain conflatio. I feel dirty just reading his statement. I've never been a voyeur.

andy's picture

He's a disgusting piece of filth.

Loonie's picture

Bonkers Hussein @ 30:

hood @ 18:

DaveTheAngryRhodeIslander @ 14:

Of course this is intentional! The average stupid American who is addicted to Fox News and Britney's antics doesn't know the difference between Iraq and Iran, Sunni and Shiite, and religion and fantasy.

People are stupid! These bastards are just using that as a tool to get what they want. Face it, we live in a nation of imbeciles - this blog (and ones like it) are not at all representative of the majority American thought.

much more at my blog...

"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --George.W. Bush. Greece, N.Y., May 24, 2005

I keep putting food on my family; on their arms and legs, on their shirts, in their shoes, I even rub food in their hair and yet they STILL LOOK HUNGRY! I don't understand! He'p meh, Preznit Boosh!

Obviously your childrens isn't learning.

Tim's picture

getalife @ 25:

CNN is talking about the biggest outrage of these hearings.

Iraq has a 60 billion dollar surplus of oil money.

Cut the funding for Iraqi welfare.

Spend on our country.

How is it sitting on surplus when the companies that own the oil are all non-Iraqi?
Cut the funding? You're right. Pillage and rape Iraq, spend billions building an embassy and bases and then proclaim that the Iraqis are after your measly welfare check.

Do you always buy into CNN's and Congress's bullshit? Just asking.

MacDaKnife's picture

Just as Krystol is the American-Israeli lobby's mouthpiece in the media, Lieberman is one of their main penetration points in Congress. Joe was originally pushing for the invasion of Iran, not Iraq. That is Israel's number one target for the US to attack, and occupy. Interestingly, Syria is a close second - this has pretty much gone by unreported by the MSM.

joeedugan's picture

I heard the Condi Rice for V.P. rumors and thought "worst choice since Quayle." Then I remembered Holy Joe. Of course then I remembered Cheney, who IS the worst. My there have been some stinkers, though. Ferraro, Agnew...

ferrofluid's picture

genocide

!

what .alt reality is Joe living in? what would you call one million dead Iraqis over the last five years, no matter who killed them.

BennyP's picture

Lieberman- fiercely loyal to his country- that being the fascist, gated community named Israel.

Gary's picture

Iran sponsors Al-Quaeda

In other breaking news..

Berkeley County funding John McCains presidential campaign.

ferrofluid's picture

JasonS @ 42:

Oh, and if you're wondering how we're going to finance all this, the answer is simple: we will borrow money from China until we can't afford the payments and then we'll push for "regime change" in that country and "liberate" their "illegal" banks.

That's what Panama was all about. The cocaine trade moved billions of dollars in cash money out of the United States and it was languishing there in Panamanian banks. Luckily, we found out that, shock surprise, Noreiga was a, gasp, BAD GUY!

So all that cash ended up back in the Treasury, making the US government the #1 profiteer from the entire drug trade of the 80s.

Okay, so China isn't Panama. This will require more planning. But they won't be holding our money for long.

regime change in China hahha, more likely they will do it to us.
1.2 billion Chinese vs 300 million couch potatoes too lazy to fight a real war,
who outsource and lose two wars against ruined countries like Afghanistan and Iraq.
pardon me while I ROTFLMAO
And I would hazard a guess that the avergae American is peed off with the GOP's overseas adventures too by now.
How many wars have the Republicans lost in the last 60 years !? Grenada and Panama dont really count.

como odendin's picture

how the fuck is he going to put genocide al-qaeda and iran in the same sentence when WE"VE KILLED A MILLION INNOCENT IRAQIS

Crow's picture

Does Lieberman remind anyone else of Senator Palpatine/Darth Sidious from Star Wars? Hmmmmmmmmm.

FreedomOfInformationAct's picture

Dream on bushites! NeoJoe ain't got no MoJo LOL.

bubba's picture

Im not sure he's saying they are linked. Its just like Batman suggesting that the joker and the penguin, both out of the asylum, will win if he leaves Gotham City. He's not suggesting they are lovers or plotting together.

joeedugan's picture

MacDaKnife @ 48:

Just as Krystol is the American-Israeli lobby's mouthpiece in the media, Lieberman is one of their main penetration points in Congress. Joe was originally pushing for the invasion of Iran, not Iraq. That is Israel's number one target for the US to attack, and occupy. Interestingly, Syria is a close second - this has pretty much gone by unreported by the MSM.

Careful, Mac, or AIPAC will claim you're a holocaust denier.

Delano's picture

There are some people that I wish bodily harm upon , I'll put it that way .

katie's picture

2 things:

1. I can't believe I voted for a ticket with Lieberman's name on it (in 2000 with Gore). Thank Christ for small miracles.

2. I think the Republican/McCain/Lieberman strategy is the Rovian "repeat ad nauseum until it's true" line and here's why: They're betting that there are more stupid and/or distracted voters that will not look into the truth and buy the lie outright than there are conscientious and responsible voters who know they're full of shit. That's how they won in 2000/2004 and they're using the same tactic now. Let's hope some of those previously dipshit voters realize that voting is a lot more complicated than soundbytes. Let's hope hard.

MacDaKnife's picture

joeedugan @ 58:

MacDaKnife @ 48:

Just as Krystol is the American-Israeli lobby's mouthpiece in the media, Lieberman is one of their main penetration points in Congress. Joe was originally pushing for the invasion of Iran, not Iraq. That is Israel's number one target for the US to attack, and occupy. Interestingly, Syria is a close second - this has pretty much gone by unreported by the MSM.

Careful, Mac, or AIPAC will claim you're a holocaust denier.

It will be hard to do that. My in-laws are Jewish. I love the Jewish people and their culture. That has little to do with the Israeli right-wing, hard-liners position on foreign policy. Growing up, there was a neighborhood punk/bully, who went around acting like King Sh*t. He had two older brothers who were not punks and were mean as they come. So, no one messed with the little brother, or you would get a 'visit'. Well, the US is Israel's 'big brother', and has eliminated any incentive they have to make peace with the Palestinians, or their neighbors. We have supported them (hundreds of billions of dollars) for over 60 years. They are the strongest military state in the middle-east. We must force them to be responsible. They are like a 30 year-old kid still living at home.

uncle joe hussein mccarthy's picture

there is only one reason to vote dem come november...to get that little fuck holy joe totally out of power

if he holds onto even one committee membership, the dems need to be ashamed of themselves

and im gonna call his rabbi and have him excommunicated

sluzzuls's picture

this is great. this is the kind of 24/7 they'll be spitting if mccain did get elected. its almost as if they just cant hold it any longer.

freedomLvr's picture

Serves you right for re-electing him CT.
And since you CT guys overwhelmingly voted for him you deserve to reap the whirlwind.

M Beyer's picture

Don't call him Holy Joe, call him Likudnik Joe.

galmud's picture

Liebermann: "…we can do it on conditions on the ground, but if we just pull out there will be chaos, maybe genocide and al-Qaeda and Iran will win."

Hmm.. chaos, genocide, al-Qaeda stronger and Iran increasing its influence? Sounds alot like whats allready happening as a RESULT of US occupation.

John Perry's picture

"Serves you right for re-electing him CT. And since you CT guys overwhelmingly voted for him you deserve to reap the whirlwind."

Thanks for lumping us all together. Do you really think there's nobody in Connecticut with a clue? This isn't exactly palookaville.

Except for a few years, I've lived here my entire life. I didn't vote for the warmongering bastard. In fact, neither did most of the Democrats who voted in the 2006 primary, which LIEberman LOST to Ned Lamont, after which he went indy and ran against Lamont again in the general election.

Some dems certainly voted for him again, but if not for the support of salivating repugs who were at least smart enough (barely) to see he was swinging in their direction, he would not have been elected.

He may be our senator, but I guarantee you the majority of CT residents are not on his side.

newscalculus's picture

great comments thus far...best blog ive seen this morn...Anyone who thinks Obama Nation and Clinton Part 2 will fix this mess is nuttier than Bush...at least he cries on cue...

george in toronto's picture

On WRH site, it is said that "Al-Qaeda " means open toilet coined by CIA. Are Americans that stupid in pure Bovine crap?
"Anyone who thinks Obama Nation"--only hope to save America from Israel firsters and food roits.With McCain, Liebermann and Hillary--death wish II upon us. 8-)

lj's picture

katie @ 60:

2 things:

1. I can't believe I voted for a ticket with Lieberman's name on it (in 2000 with Gore). Thank Christ for small miracles.

2. I think the Republican/McCain/Lieberman strategy is the Rovian "repeat ad nauseum until it's true" line and here's why: They're betting that there are more stupid and/or distracted voters that will not look into the truth and buy the lie outright than there are conscientious and responsible voters who know they're full of shit. That's how they won in 2000/2004 and they're using the same tactic now. Let's hope some of those previously dipshit voters realize that voting is a lot more complicated than soundbytes. Let's hope hard.

Thanks Katie---right on!!!

Mark in Ohio's picture

Decency? Lieberman? Don't make me laugh.

Early's picture

Does anyone not see the McBush-Lieberman strategy in continuing to conflate uber-Sunni AQ with uber-Shi'a Iran? It's Joseph Goebbels' old trick of repeating the same lie over and over again until people start believing it. This will be the pretext for initiating armed hostilities with Iran a few months into McBush's third term.
Oh Lord, please let me be wrong...

Paul's picture

Lieberquisling obviously has no capacity for shame.

Post American's picture

J.. Lieberman is a Zionist Hoodlum. The US Military Government Media must be brought to justice for the genocide in Iraq with tar and feathers.

Laura's picture

What I am concerned about is that the machine to go to war with Iran has already been put into motion, and it's a done deal, just as war with Iraq was a done deal, long before anyone even started pretending to give "intelligence reports".

JerryO's picture

If we pull out too soon, they'll be chaos and maybe genocide.....

wake up you fucking BOZO....what does he think has been going on all this time?

bilhelm-hussein-X's picture

Bonkers Hussein @ 30:

hood @ 18:

DaveTheAngryRhodeIslander @ 14:

Of course this is intentional! The average stupid American who is addicted to Fox News and Britney's antics doesn't know the difference between Iraq and Iran, Sunni and Shiite, and religion and fantasy.

People are stupid! These bastards are just using that as a tool to get what they want. Face it, we live in a nation of imbeciles - this blog (and ones like it) are not at all representative of the majority American thought.

much more at my blog...

"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --George.W. Bush. Greece, N.Y., May 24, 2005

I keep putting food on my family; on their arms and legs, on their shirts, in their shoes, I even rub food in their hair and yet they STILL LOOK HUNGRY! I don't understand! He'p meh, Preznit Boosh!

Thanks, I had to laugh. As a OBGYN, I have to practice my love with women all over the country but too many good docs are gettin out of the business. Joe LIEberman doesn't have any upper teeth, somebody should really knock out the lower ones too.

harriett's picture

LIEberman lends credence to the theory of reptilian DNA in humans. Lyin' lizards have no decency, just cold blood.

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