Daily Show: The Rise and Fall of FOX News
By SilentPatriot Thursday Apr 10, 2008 11:00am
Eights months ago, I said that this was the best Daily Show clip I've seen in a while. Well, Thursday night Jon Stewart and Jon Oliver out-did themselves. I present to you...The Rise and Fall of FOX News.
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If there was ever a six minute video clip that could encapsulated what FOX has done to this country in the past 10+ years, this it it.
Update: John Amato:
Stewart: What Jon is the purpose of the documentary?
Oliver: Simply to judge the president before history gets it's chance.
FOX Host: From the beginning George W. Bush has been frequently ridiculed for his speaking style, now seven years later he's credited with some of the most eloquent and visionary speeches ever delivered by an American President.
Stewart: Who has credited him with that?
Oliver: That guy, just, just now, the guy on TV. You just saw him. You see, FOX News understands that a man's legacy is not defined not by what the man does, but by what people on television say he does about him.
There is no truer statement, "my friends." Then we get to see the treatment of Obama, Clinton and McCain through their warped eyes.
Oliver: In the years to come this fearless network will continue to say to America with confidence and absolute certainty. Go FOX yourself.
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OYE! Primerrrrrro! Pendejos!
I'm gonna have to send this to my cuz....
At least The Daily Show calls Faux News what it is. A fake News channel that is totally ludicrious that mental defects and emotionally dim-witted morons salivate at every salalious story.
The Daily Show is the best thing on TV
Just got put on Digg...spread the word here and there...this is must see!
Shouldn't they also do something like this about CNN? It's obvious to most people what Fox News does and how they do it, but CNN essentially does the same thing, but is worse, because they are much more subtle. 24 Hour "News" Channels in general have totally helped to ruin political dialog in this country. Fox News is a pretty easy target. If someone would take on CNN for what they do and do so well, then that would be something.
It would be great to be a college student majoring in Journalism 100 years from now and learn about how TDS changed the face of journalism.
Not they necessarily have beyond adding the comedy element, but man alive, NOBODY asks the questions and makes the obvious connections they do. Can this country be saved by comedy?
tehghey, is right. CNN is Faux News lite. I have practically given up on all news except C-span and Oberman. The rest are shills for big business.
O'Reilly was my favorite. He used the first four years of his show to incessantly bash either the Clintons or Jesse Jackson anyway he could ... some journalist.
Could you guys post the whole thing? ComedyCentral doesn't let people outside the country watch their videos. Licensing this, copyright that. Blah, blah.
Fox News is Dying- Take #10,002, aaaand.....action.
if propagandizing were virtuous fox would be Gods
Ha Ha. Go Fox yourself! Brilliant!
Okay, pardon the ignorant question, but how does a "digg" work?
Thanks in advance.
FoxNews bashing is great fun, but wasn't it The New York Times who gave us Judy "I never met a spooky WMD story I didn't want to write about with breathless exuberance" Miller, and isn't it MSNBC who gives us Chris "The musky scent of a real man like Fred Thompson sends shivers up my leg" Matthews? FoxNews is full of nonsense, but I submit that most "middle of the road" people discount everything they say, while even dedicated liberals are taken in by the nonsense at the Times, at the Post, on MSNBC, and on CNN.
I love John Stewart, but when's he going to take a critical look at Brian Williams, Wolf Blitzer, or Tim Russert?
Nailed it, nailed it, nailed it!
Ahhh...catharsis goes great with the first cup of coffee...
But the Daily Show totally sucks ass because they didn't use this segment to also go after CNN, MSNBC, Headline News, local newscasts, right wing radio, yo momma....
/snark
Fox Noise is all about making the female talent wear skirts to show off their legs, spinning news to make Democrats and liberals look bad, and letting neocon blowhards like Hannity have a "mainstream" forum when without Fox he would be relegated to the fringe of talk radio.
Oh, and Fox Noise also gives those sad sacks on "Fox & Friends" a job, despite how many times they've been wrong when trying to slime Democrats.
Bonkers Hussein @ 16:
They would have to devote a whole 30-minute episode to do that.
Someone should do a Jenny Craig intervention for Jabba the Hut Ailes. He looks like he's going to explode like Mr. Cresosote.
Get him a bucket.
-GSD
There it is: Posters who are quick to cite the shortcomings -- and they certainly have them -- of other networks to soften Fox's image and reputation.
No network is more partisan or violates the tenets of journalism ON A DAILY BASIS than Fox News. They don't come close. Also, when is CNN and MSNBC going to balance their Conservative hosts and commentators with Liberal ones. Where's the Liberal Glenn Beck to counter him for example?
Sums it up quite nicely.
What's most striking about this piece is the absolute hypocrisy that typifies Fox "News"...
When Bill Clinton was in office they questioned everything he did...but during "Dubya"'s term they called anyone who dared to to question him (Glenn Greenwald, Keith Olbermann, et al.) "smearing" or "supporting terrorism" or both.
it is a mistake to view fox as a seperate media entity and ascribe to it more power than it deserves. much of it's audience is there to get image reinforcement or a synopsis of crap they heard on talk radio earlier in the day or week. it is the end result of the groundwork talk radio does with its 50-70MIL audience.
Fox would not be half as effective as it is if it did not feed off the prechewed uncontested repetition that the talk radio monopoly gives it. fox news and the modern neocons would not have been able to take over and now destroy the republican party if not for reagan killing the Fairness Doctrine 20 years ago.
The best part was the juxtaposition of the 90s' Fox News dolts crying about expansion of executive power in a Clinton administration... HA HA HA!!
Bluestater @ 14:
Basically you vote for what you think is newsworthy, and then assuming you dont get censored, the mosted voted on news stories of the day go on Diggs main page.
danger hussein al-malak @ 24:
"Sept. 11th changed everything" ~ I'm sure is their reasoning.
What is really humiliating for other news shoes and channels is that TDS staff actually does research. If a politician or pundit makes a claim, they spend time looking through other speeches and show the contrast on air. Regular channels are to effin' lazy to take the time or trouble--they just take people at their word, and don't bother to fact check. They ought to be groveling and asking TDS staff for a refresher course on journalism.
GSD @ 19:
It's wafer thin!
Joel @ 22:
And if Obama is elected president we will see if Fox Noise will do a 180-degree turn from how they treated Junior.
Do you think O'liely's head will explode? Poor Billo, Not only is he almost always on the "Worst Person in the World" list, he's always being lampooned by comics. It almost brings a tears to my eyes!
P.D. @ 30:
O'Reilly is such a prima donna and superstar in his own mind that he probably likes the attention.
Thanks, Gary @ posting 25.
Where is abob with a C&P of Faux "ratings"?
Frybread your right. I wonder if they have enough room on the set for his enormous ego. But Billo looks a little peaked lately don't you think. I think the hate inside is finally eating away at him.
If you need a reason to like Obama maybe his stiff-arm of Fox would do it. I think the idea of NO access to the White House has Ailes and his pack of hyenas waking up with night sweats. Day after day of being scooped....LOL
The corporate media that perpetuates primitive capitalism is the enemy. Faux is just the worst of the bunch, but even more corruptive and deceptive are CNN, MSNBC, and others in print that give Americans brain rot and treat everyone like fools every day.
Let's not exactly bury Fox Propaganda.
First off, Conservatives, as proven by George W. Bush, George H.W. Bush, Ronald Reagan, Tom DeLay, Newton Gingrich, Trent Lott, and Bill Frist, etc., have always been lousy leaders. Management is not their strength nor will it ever be.
Instead, Conservative thrive on criticism, on back-bench bomb throwing, on mindless attack, on an unwillingness to negotiate or find common ground from which to unite and proceed forward. The Conservative mindset is one of constant war, of Michael Ledeen's "attack every decade just to throw someone up against a wall."
The Conservative abhors information and analysis and relies solely on barstool propaganda, blatant bias, personal greed, and ignorance. These are the reasons for the success of Faux News.
And that's why Faux News will be so potent should Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton wind up in the White House, having to clean up eight years of the mess created by Dick Cheney and his underling, George W. Bush, in Iraq, the U.S. economy, the current account deficit, the national debt, the national deficit, the national infrastructure, the military of burned-out soldiers and desert-damaged equipment, the health care system, and the absence of regulation in the SEC, FCC, FDA, and every other organization.
Fox and Roger "All That" Ailes will lose their first- and second-place standing at the White House and Department of Defense. No matter. Ailes and his underlings will simply do what they do best: criticize and stigmatize in the name of their own personal financial interests.
So let's just count rumors of the demise of Fox and Ailes to be greatly exaggerated.
Frybread @ 29:
Then they would come full circle...wouldn't they...?
P.D. @ 34:
Oh the hate and stress will continue to erode his health until he looks like Emperor Palpatine from Star Wars!
dennis @ 11:
Thanks for missing the point, once again.
Bluestater, what did you mean by this?
tehghey @ 6:
Anyone who ever witnessed Wolf Blitzer's monologue's would realize you are 100% correct.
Jon Stewart and the Daily Show are Brilliant...like a fine wine that ages perfectly. I watched this segment this morning while getting ready for work....and it set a perfect tone for my day. Bravo! Whatever will Fox do when their Bush boy is out of office? Perhaps learn the something about journalistic integrity.....no wait, that ship has sailed
As Jon put it in the now famous interview with *ucker Carlson. It's sad that people have to tune in to a comedy show to watch real news because they aren't getting it from Faux
The only reason Faux News has higher ratings IS because of their audience. A bunch of old people or pathetic loners who have nowhere to go on any given night. But don't dispair, the geezers will dye off eventually, which will leave them the loser bridgade. They can have them.
princess @ 11:
Who had 9:18 am for the obligatory hysterical reich-wing whining defense of faux?
dennis @ 11:
Not dying......people have caught on to their propaganda....ratings? Perhaps it's all the people online watching to point out their outright leanings.....OR there are a pile of REAL stupid people.
The brilliance of the Daily show is that they mostly just display clips of back-to-back contradiction and let
them speak for themselves.
Unfortunately I think we'll be waiting a long time for the fall of Faux News.
liberalHUSSEINmoderation @ 28:
I can't eat another thing. F*ck off!
David @ 41:
To quote the lying hypocrite Bill O'Reilly, "One can't justify bad behavior by pointing to other bad behavior".
Though O'Reilly would do well to heed the aforementioned advice he dispenses to guests who expose his hypocrisy, he is correct in a sense in that we shouldn't look at his competition to somehow give Fox News a pass -- "They all do it, so blah, blah, blah..." is not at play here. I was simply addressing what I started to notice here on the part of posters blurring Fox with CNN or MSNBC. Yes, the other networks fail us horribly also, but they are nowhere near Fox News in their partisanship, lying, spinning, and propagandizing.There is a HUGE chasm twixt Fox News and all the other networks. ...Fox News is a joke; they are a parody of themselves.
Dr. Acula @ 49:
If you guys keep promoting them, then yeah, Doc. Even us righties are getting tired of O'Reilly.
Mark @ 37:
Well put and dead on! :)
David @ 15:
He has done that many times. Jon doesnt play favorites everybody is game but you got to admit Faux noise sticks its neck way out there. If they would just lable themselves as comical satire news like the ONION then we could all just have a big laugh
Dr. Hussien Matt @ 46:
Oh my gosh. I'm leading you on and I just didn't realize it. I'm truly sorry.
dennis @ 11:
Just a reminder Dennis, The Colbert Report did win a Peabody award and despite his faulty memory O'reilly did not. I guess that means TCR is less of a fake news show than Fox.
Considering most of Academia is in the radical left wing camp I'm sure they will trash the President.. Maybe we will be able to get a fair and Balanced history of it his years
Do you get that feeling when you see people like Roger Ailes, Billo, Rush, etc., to just punch them in the face, without apparent reason, but when you know that there is a reason, you just would spit on them?
This fat fucker sure eats good, looks like he would eat his young---gooforgo--solo
chris @ 57:
Never actually attended a university have you Chris. Someone told you that nonsense about "Academia is in the radical left wing camp" so you believe it. Let me guess your source: Fox News?
Peter G @ 56:
Thanks. Trust me, if you ever watch Bill and Mary Katherine Ham do their segment on what's on the web, you quickly realize how much of a dinosaur this guy is. He's like, about 10 years away from a Dan Rather-type meltdown.
Stewart and his crew, along with Colbert are modern day Mark Twains, revealing the "gilded" nature of our times.
14All @ 27:
I wish it was a matter of laziness -- if it was, then the journalists responsible would be fired by bosses who deserve better. Having worked in both print and television media, I know that one of the key factors in skipping a lot of this research is that they're simply not given the time and resources to do proper background any more. People expect news right away, but the corporations running the media outlets are simultaneously cutting back staff and money. That means that someone working on one beat is probably putting in time on yet another beat (ie they're working behind the scenes on another show, or another part of the magazine) because doubling up is necessary.
Add to that the fact that some of these corporations have definite political / financial agendas, and you've got a recipe for shoddy, slanted journalism.
People shouldn't need any prodding to watch The Wire, but season five of the series deals with some of the things at work in this whole process.
chris @ 57:
No chris, they will state the facts. If it makes your beer buddy look bad, then maybe he should have been a better president.
Incidentally, I have no real faith that "Academia" will truly tell it like it is in either case. Our high school history books are full of mistakes, omissions and outright lies. It wouldn't surprise me if, many years from now, my at-the-moment-unborn child brings home a history book full of praise for the worst nitwit to ever squat in the Oval Office. So, hey! You may have your way; you'll be able to wander over to my porch, good neighbor that you will be, and scream, "Scoreboard!!!! Bush rules!!!" while flapping said history book in my face.
Bonkers Hussein @ 64:
What lies does the High School History Book contain?
chris @ 65:
Yeah, I knew as soon as I typed it you'd come back with that, chris. I really don't have time to list them for you as I chatting with you all during a break at work.
chris 1, bonkers 0
Good for you.
Again C&L, thank you for watching this SHIT PROGRAM so I don't have to. I became enraged years ago with the total hypocrisies of that so-called "news" channel and have not watched it since. By the way, I also do not buy any products from sponsors of that show. If you want a list of FOX "news" sponsors, you don't have to sit through the drivel, just go here: http://www.debone.com/boycottFoxNewsSponsors.html
Thruth like water eventrually finds it's out. That's why Foxaganda is tanking.
Bonkers Hussein @ 66:
Thanks for been man enough to admit you got got..........
Bonkers Hussein @ 66:
Since you're a little busy Bonkers I'll provide a little reading for Chris. Admittedly these howlers are from a popular civics text but it'll do to start with.
http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2008/04/religious_right_propaganda_in...
That report would be really funny if it weren't so true.
David @ 15:
Hardly. Most "middle of the road" people, unless they are die-hard moderates and political junkies, are too busy to devote the kind of time to political and media analysis that bloggers and blog-posters do. The average person out there still expects (not unfairly) for the media to digest and summarize information for them. S/he watches FUX and the rest of the channels for basic information, and is not parsing the words to discern truth from bullshit.
Actually, dedicated liberals are at pains to explain that the Times, Post, MSNBC and CNN are all full of junk and misinformation. That they are hardly the "liberal media" members of the right-wing noise machine like to call them. That's what sites like Media Matters and C&L do every day.
Are you under the impressionthis is news to us?
Yeah.
March 2, 2005.
July 12, 2004.
March 15, 2005,
Nov. 15, 2006.
Now, I know, those aren't in-depth focus-pieces on everything those people say, but don't pretend that other media figures are somehow immune to Daily Show criticism.
chris @ 65:
For a start, check out Lies My Teacher Told Me. (And don't assume it's uniformly liberal in its leanings.)
High school textbooks are full of misinformation and over-simplifications.
chris @ 69:
Chrissy, what could you possibly know about academia? You can't spell or write grammatically correct English. Home schooled?
The Jack in the Box near where I work runs Fox News on TV at all times. :( at least it's muted... They have another TV on the other side of the dining area, but it's set to some sports channel rather than a real news network. bah!
(Southern California)
Fox's "documentary" on Bush most certainly will become part of the historical record. Generations of students will marvel at the blatant lying that was allowed to pass as journalism.
Tim @ 75:
Huh. You're right. It's not just in Southern California either , it's in Virginia too. It's in the doctor's office, the airport, the health club, the pub and anywhere else I ever see cable news in a public place. I wonder why? I will inquire.
Wow....just wow... I'm practically speechless... The one thing that stands out? 'that guy', that guy on T.V. who puked out something about 'most elequent and visionary speeches ever delievered by an American President'... in reference to George W. Bush mutterings..... W.T.F???!!! THAT is the most delusional and asinine comment I never heard pulled out of some empty suits ass in prime time....ever.... Glad I missed it the first time.. I probably would have put my boot right thru the T.V. But then, I never have watched fox news so I guess I was never in any danger.. nor was my T.V.
Jesus, with this kind of shit excuse for news, its no wonder they are slowly crashing and burning. I can't wait till fox goes bankrupt........'Most elequent and visionary blah blah blah'...my ass!!! Christ that would be funny as hell if it wasn't such a disgusting attempt at revisionist BULLSHIT!!!! I'm tellin ya folks, they couldn't write this insanity in Hollywood in a million years and sell it as an alternative reality sci-fi series... Noone would believe it.. None of this shit if we weren't all living thru it......JD
how sad that the hardest hitting news is on comedy central. this was an excellent report and MSM should be ashamed.
If and when the USA ever rids itself of the festering slime that has overtaken Washington ?
A lot of the credit will be due to folks like John Stewart and Colbert who had the balls to put it on the line and fly in the face of the Reich wingers. They cant run and hide from video.
Off topic but the good Col here had a heart attack last Friday and im happy to report that i survived the wretched thing called Canadas universal health care system. OMG the humanity. Once i realized that it wasn't in fact the worst case of heartburn ever and got my butt to the ER i was treated , as usual , like gold. I believe i was in the ER less than three minutes before i was hooked up and on IVs and an ECG machine. Once i was stabilized i was moved into a private room in the Intensive/Cardiac Care Unit. Even the TV is free is that unit. I was later taken by ambulance to regional heart specialty hospital an hour away for an angiogram and later returned ,also at no further expense to myself. I am pretty sure at no time did my Doctors and Specialists ever have to phone some lackey at an insurance company to ok any aspect of my care. I had forgotten to renew my health card and was packing an expired one but that wasn't even mentioned. I felt good enough to hold a bedside seminar for some nursing students on the goodness of compassionate health care versus greed and profit driven go fuck yerself US style health care. They all promised to watch Sicko for me and absorb the inner meaning of it. Only real downside to it all is that ill have to be on about 300 bucks a month worth of meds that i dont have fully covered by benefits since my job left town,passed through US and stopped in Mexico. A social aide at hospital did help me to apply for a Provincial program to cover about 75% of that expense though too till i get firmly back on my feet. Sorry but i had to get that off my back but i truly do hate the reich wing spin and bullshit about universal health care and my Docs told me i have to live more stress free. It does feel good to get a little back from all the slightly higher taxes we pay here in Canada once in a while. With any luck ,no cigs and bacon , ill be around to see how all this Bushshit plays out in the long run. Im looking forward to seeing the Neos do the perp walk in their pretty orange jumpsuits. That alone is worth living for . Happy Masters Weekend to all .
Col Kilgore@80;
Best wishes for a speedy recovery.. Get well Colonel....JD
Hey Bluestater. I guess I'm just arguing that by claiming The NYT, The Post, MSNBC, and CNN are as bad or worse than Fox News, I am not giving Fox News a pass. Rather, I am urging us not to give The NYT, The Post, MSNBC and CNN a pass. I agree that Fox News is terrible. I'm just saying that these other, seemingly more reasonable media outlets, actually are not that reasonable and are also terrible. I'm am not saying that because other news orgs besides Fox News produce bad journalism, it is therefore ok to perform bad journalism. Bad journalism is never a good thing.
Necadawg, I honestly don't ever remember Jon Stewart skewering, say, MSNBC or CNN this way. Brian Williams has been a frequent guest on The Daily Show, lending his "gravitas" (oh, please) to the show. Tim Russert, Chris Matthews, and Wolf Blitzer also often have been guests, warmly received. Maybe I'm wrong. I'll sift through some of the archived clips.
tehghey @ 6:
Did you watch the whole episode? They ripped CNN at the top of the show for the hour+ coverage they did of the Olympic Torch's adventures in San Francisco. In fact, I think TDS rips on CNN more than Fox News, as Fox IS such an easy target that there's almost no point in covering it.
Here's something you won't see on Fox News ... This march took place in San Diego yesterday
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvNwfUsKG9g
I had taped last night's Daily Show and showed it to 2 people this afternoon who have never quite believed what I've been saying about FOX Noise. When they got done viewing it, they were:
1) laughing their asses off at how how amazingly funny it was
2) shaking their heads in disbelief because they FINALLY understood what I've been talking about for so long.
I think they've come over from the dark side now because of the Daily Show's irrefutable evidence.
Good work, Daily Show team!