Yeah, I can see how calling someone a Communist Black Nationalist who wants to spread Shariah Law and is anti-American and a racist is loving them (gag.)

Somehow I think he uses that word. It does not mean what he thinks it means. Frist for Mandy Patinkin!

No one enjoyed a media honeymoon more than Bill Clinton did back in 1992. I was there. I remember it well.

Now the Clintons are the Old Guard of the Democratic Party and not the cocky newcomers on the scene. They're a known quantity. 1992 was sixteen long years ago, lest we forget.

I am personally ashamed that Joe Scarborough attended the University of Alabama, my parents' alma mater and a school that I nearly attended myself. He doesn't speak for me.

To be honest I don't think that the MEdia has been in love with Obama...I saw an awful lot of Hillary pandering , esp over these past 6 weeks ( and ALL of last year).....but the thing is that Joe and Tucker are the ones that raved about Bush...and look how THAT turned out...( and now McCain will be treated like a Great Aged War Hero- even though he might not be competent to be prez)......

There's that word "awesome" again. Is every conservative, from Chimpy McPreznit to Joe Scars, going to turn into Jeff Spicoli right before our eyes? Or is JS just providing a little cover for President Nitwit, who uses the word in what are supposed to be informative press conferences? You know, make it seem like LOTS of edjumikated adults use the word in that context on a regular basis?

In a way, Clinton's support of the gas tax holiday has been to the benefit of the Obama campaign. If it were just McCain proposing this flawed piece of political pandering, the Corporate Media would never have offered the critical analysis that they did and instead would have, at best, provided their usual "fair and balanced" reportage.

Talk about conservative projection! The media loves Obama more than McCain?!? Meanwhile, McCain and the GOP would do really poorly if the media actually covered policy in a substantial manner. GOP economic policies almost always favor the already wealthy over the majority of Americans, and Republicans routinely lie about health care in the U.S. compared to other countries.

L.A. Confidential @ 9:

Yes that was pretty crazy. The way the young Clintons struck fear into the hearts of right wing nut America.

I remember the deafening and stunned silence of the right the day Bill defeated Bush Sr.

Fleetwood Mac blaring over the huge crowd dancing in the streets! No more Bush! No more Bush!

That was a STINGING DEFEAT for the CONS.

Yes they said that but consider the source, a couple of dopes. Who cares.

The crazy pastors of the GOP you never hear about from the traditional media.

From dailykos:

Bush and the Crazy Pastor
by DarkSyde
Thu May 08, 2008 at 04:00:24 PM PDT

I don't know what a search of Politicians and their Crazy Pastors on traditional media would come up with. But without seeing the results, I'm willing to speculate the double standard in play on progressive Vs. conservative crazy pastor problems is just breathtaking:

Ed Brayton -- And did you see one article anywhere in the mainstream media about it? I've not seen one that even mentions that on May 2nd, the former president and father of the current president, George HW Bush, was paid by the world's most prominent fascist cult leader to give yet another speech on his behalf, with Moon on the same stage. And it happened right in Washington DC, where the media has no excuse for not knowing about it.

Scartissue: You know what's interesting? Nobody wants health care, but when Democrats propose it, nobody in the media says anything against it. And nobody wants this silly Social Security thing, but people go crazy when you try to dismantle it. And people don't want roads and bridges -- that's the last thing they want. Everyone knows it. But when you tell them that we'll give you your money back so that you don't have to have those bridges you complain about every day, they act like the sky is falling. Only when you try to take money away from horrible things governments do. Must be that liberal media.

Fucker: Well, sure, Joe. The liberal media makes people seem selfish when they want to keep their hard earned money. What's so sad is that you and I are having this conversation here, and no one in the media will cover it! It won't even make it on tv! But here's the thing, just in case someone overhears us. Consumption taxes are good conservative taxes.

Scartissue: Oh, you're so right! You're so right! We conservatives, who are never allowed on television, love consumption taxes! Liberals shouldn't like the gas tax. They only like it because their dreamy, black, liberal hunk likes it. Can you imagine how the liberal media would act if it were John McCain who wanted to keep the gas tax? It would go nuts! The media would trot out unfair nonsense about, oh, I don't know, his pastor or something, for days without end, and try to crucify him! Am I right, Fucker?

Fucker: Oh, you're so right, Joe! So right! He's dreamy; he's black; he's liberal. Ahhhhhhhhhhh. [eyelids make butterfly motion]

Scartissue: Uh, Fucker? You with us, buddy?

Fucker: Oh, uh...sorry. Anyway, it's gonna be such a great election. The media has such an incredible puppy crush on Obama. Take it from a perpetual 9th-grade boy! I know this kind of love when I see it!

Token Female: You guys are so right on--- uh--- I mean, wait a minute. I'm not a 9th grade boy. Can you describe this feeling I've never had? Because I'm just a girl, and don't experience young puppy love.

Scartissue: Oh, Token, it's quite emotional. It's like, if you say anything bad about the one I have a crush on, you get all red-faced and angry. Kinda like how I get when Rachel Maddow puts me in my place on that other show.

Token Female: Awwwww. Cute!

Fucker: Before we leave, lemme let y'all know -- Rush is right for having switched his support to Obama. Because now that he is the presumptive nominee, he is the weaker of the two. That's not Machiavellian. It's just good, old fashioned conservativism.

so, according to asshat1 and asshat2, gas taxes (which are probably the best spent and most intelligent taxes we have) liberals should hate, even though they have very little to do with the high gas prices....but sin taxes are evil??

and according to these two, i imagined the wall to wall coverage of rev wright, the bitter comment, is obama a closet muslim and michelle obama being really proud to be an american

have either of these two idiots said word one about mcfeeble and his constant flip flops?

today, mcoldfart's wife said they would not run a negative campaign....and why should they, with almost the entire media doing it for them

liberal media my ass

tc and scar are like two dingle berries hanging
on for life. eventually they fall off .

Clinton left office with an approval rating at 65%, the highest end of office rating of any President since World War II.

In fact Bill was Obamas age when he became President.

L.A. Confidential @ 26:

Clinton left office with an approval rating at 65%, the highest end of office rating of any President since World War II.

In fact Bill was Obamas age when he became President.

Nothing personal Obama fans just reminiscing a bit.

The ever increasing shenanigans of the media and their paid slack-jawed mouth breathers is getting wackier by the day. Joe andd the guy named after hemmoroid medicine have been given free reign to confuse and confound like nattering butt trumpets and there doesn't seem to be anybody or anything to help us all escape. Is there any escape from noise?

My first reflex his to stomp them like roaches, but I resist the temptation to get ensconced in the legal system and besides, they got the wrong kind of bars in those places. And with McCain hiding under the nearest neo-con skirt, things have been, to a certain extent, crazy and untenable.

It's difficult, but I'll try to put in some context, but I just get blotto and I can't explain it in words without my head spinning like the time I got off the Hammerhead at the Corn Festival, just before my older brother yakked all over the girl who waited patiently in line with the pretty white flowered summer dress and the rather fetching tits, ruined for all time by pre-chewed chunks of hot dog, candy apple, and approximately 3 ears of corn slathered in over-salted butter and speckled with what appeared to be pepper but after further investigation, turned out to be fly doo-doo, as there was a bottleneck in the production line betwixt the casual boiling of the ears and the butter slathering station. And money wasn’t involved nor were there any reported labor disputes. I’m sure in time that pubescent young lady, through faithful attendance at a local Psychologist’s office, who was later incarcerated due to several well fingered photo albums of young patients who were photographed in the office restroom without their consent, and her faith in an omnipresent powerful being alleged to be the creator of all things but too disinterested in any way as to impede in the reception of yak upon that pretty dress, as the dress ultimately found it’s final resting in the big dumpster behind the Mayfair market. She eventually resigned herself to live in the now, as she, like Ingmar Bergman, finally deduced that god is silent, so what’s the fucking point anyway.

Persevere

the 'liberal' media sure gives these 2 no-talents a lot of airtime.

L.A. Confidential @ 28:

L.A. Confidential @ 26:

Clinton left office with an approval rating at 65%, the highest end of office rating of any President since World War II.

In fact Bill was Obamas age when he became President.

Nothing personal Obama fans just reminiscing a bit.

Believe me kids after 12 years of Republican Destruction under Reagan and Bush it was do or die time!

Karen @ 20:
LOLing. Just brilliant. My favorite bit:

Fucker: Oh, you're so right, Joe! So right! He's dreamy; he's black; he's liberal. Ahhhhhhhhhhh. [eyelids make butterfly motion]

Ahhh, good way to end my day; with a chuckle.

Wow. I can't believe these idiots actually get paid to come up with this juvenile crap.

As members of the MSM themselves, they're pretty much proving themselves wrong, aren't they? They and countless others on every major "news" outlet continually spew their mindless garbage about lapel pins, proper hand positioning during the National Anthem, pastors, Weathermen, elitism, etc., and yet somehow they're still considered to be "serious" journalists?

They're worthless. I haven't watched cable news in several years and I won't again until they toss these kinds of assholes overboard.

Nicole Belle @ 25:

sun tzu @ 13:

(and before someone starts attacking me for saying so, Clinton has some equally rabid supporters as well)

Look, great site bla bla bla ... but while your statement might be true in a sense, the equivalency stops at vehemence.

By shear numbers your truthiness becomes an outright falsehood. Its no secret that the Left blogosphere is way tilted toward Obama. Site after A-list site has skewed so far to Barack that many have lost regular readers because of it. (you know who you are) So enough of this false equivalency nonsense. If Obama supporters can't bear a truth said about them without dragging in an MSM style diffusion tactic perhaps they ought to chill out once in a while.

With all due respect, you will not hold us responsible for the entire blogosphere.

C&L decided not to endorse a primary candidate. We have been scrupulous to not take sides, much to the frustration of some of our readers (and contributers, to be honest).

So there is no "truthiness" to my statement nor false equivalency.

Read carefully and don't take such offense. I did not hold you responsible for the whole toobz, and yes, your false equivalency is plain to see. I quoted it. That was my whole point.

I see this as an exception here, not the rule. Otherwise I wouldn't be here either. Ya, its also true that I am regular, daily visitor who actual does like C&L very much. Just tired of the BO nonsense pervading every corner of my online existence.

It's a shame the "out there" McCain supporters happen to be in the media.

General_Rennenkampf @ 37:

Looking at the "gifts" Reagan left, how exactly did he become electable? Guy was a nut all the way back when he was California Governor (the two aren't necessarily going together, though with Arnie in office I sometimes wonder) and he somehow became electable...how?

Yes. And the only thing Reagan did worth mentioning was accepting a Tax Hike so he wouldn't bankrupt the United States of America.

With Bush 2 we ran out of luck.

L.A. Confidential @ 44:

General_Rennenkampf @ 37:

Looking at the "gifts" Reagan left, how exactly did he become electable? Guy was a nut all the way back when he was California Governor (the two aren't necessarily going together, though with Arnie in office I sometimes wonder) and he somehow became electable...how?

Yes. And the only thing Reagan did worth mentioning was accepting a Tax Hike so he wouldn't bankrupt the United States of America.

With Bush 2 we ran out of luck.

USA SOL? It might fight on a license plate, but I don't believe it.

There is enough solid intelligence and good will in this country to foster an enlightenment. A third wave of discovery and invention that will cement this nation's reputation and its standing as the one place on earth where we listened when it mattered. We cannot squander that now.

uncle joe hussein mccarthy @ 31:

sun tzu @ 13:

(and before someone starts attacking me for saying so, Clinton has some equally rabid supporters as well)

Look, great site bla bla bla ... but while your statement might be true in a sense, the equivalency stops at vehemence.

By shear numbers your truthiness becomes an outright falsehood. Its no secret that the Left blogosphere is way tilted toward Obama. Site after A-list site has skewed so far to Barack that many have lost regular readers because of it. (you know who you are) So enough of this false equivalency nonsense. If Obama supporters can't bear a truth said about them without dragging in an MSM style diffusion tactic perhaps they ought to chill out once in a while.

i take it that you are a clinton supporter

do you and your ilk ever ask yourself why the blogosphere has turned against the once golden child?

think it might have to do with comments like this:

I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on," she said in an interview published Thursday. She cited an Associated Press article "that found how Sen. Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me."

using repug talking points to show that she has the "uneducated white vote"

when did dems ever talk like this???

she is done

uncle joe hussein mccarthy @ 31:

sun tzu @ 13:

(and before someone starts attacking me for saying so, Clinton has some equally rabid supporters as well)

Look, great site bla bla bla ... but while your statement might be true in a sense, the equivalency stops at vehemence.

By shear numbers your truthiness becomes an outright falsehood. Its no secret that the Left blogosphere is way tilted toward Obama. Site after A-list site has skewed so far to Barack that many have lost regular readers because of it. (you know who you are) So enough of this false equivalency nonsense. If Obama supporters can't bear a truth said about them without dragging in an MSM style diffusion tactic perhaps they ought to chill out once in a while.

i take it that you are a clinton supporter

do you and your ilk ever ask yourself why the blogosphere has turned against the once golden child?

think it might have to do with comments like this:

I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on," she said in an interview published Thursday. She cited an Associated Press article "that found how Sen. Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me."

using repug talking points to show that she has the "uneducated white vote"

when did dems ever talk like this???

she is done

My ilk? Your upset about what again?

Whatever, dood. You're way off into the weeds on this one.

I will only become concerned when people like Scarborough and Carlson start backing the candidates I support.

Why argue with Republicans? It's not like I want them voting for my party. I want them to spend the rest of their lives floating in the cesspool they've created.

It reminds me of a saying we had in the service, towards the end of the VN war: Sir, you must have me confused with someone who gives a fuck.

Peter G @ 51:

Nicole Belle @ 25:

sun tzu @ 13:

(and before someone starts attacking me for saying so, Clinton has some equally rabid supporters as well)

Look, great site bla bla bla ... but while your statement might be true in a sense, the equivalency stops at vehemence.

By shear numbers your truthiness becomes an outright falsehood. Its no secret that the Left blogosphere is way tilted toward Obama. Site after A-list site has skewed so far to Barack that many have lost regular readers because of it. (you know who you are) So enough of this false equivalency nonsense. If Obama supporters can't bear a truth said about them without dragging in an MSM style diffusion tactic perhaps they ought to chill out once in a while.

With all due respect, you will not hold us responsible for the entire blogosphere.

C&L decided not to endorse a primary candidate. We have been scrupulous to not take sides, much to the frustration of some of our readers (and contributers, to be honest).

So there is no "truthiness" to my statement nor false equivalency.

By and large the staff here have done a tremendous job of keeping the playing field level with but one glaring exception. That piece posted by Scarce last week (I believe) implying that Bill Clinton had lied about previous comments he had made. The two videos clearly showed that was not the case. It was a truly mendacious post and I hope I don't see him here again.

You can't ban based on a penalty. Read the rules. Two minutes for roughing. If you have a legitimate beef and the suspect made a clear violation, some time in the box is warranted, but you can't silence someone who doesn't hold your view for that reason alone.
/end hockey rant

Hmmmm, do you think elitist pundits sway to one side or another as a way to create a niche market for themselves on the MSM? It's be ok if the pundits weren't so lopsided to the right, but hey, who owns the MSM? Nothin like unfettered capitalism to give you fair and balance media coverage.

sun tzu @ 13:

(and before someone starts attacking me for saying so, Clinton has some equally rabid supporters as well)

Look, great site bla bla bla ... but while your statement might be true in a sense, the equivalency stops at vehemence.

By shear numbers your truthiness becomes an outright falsehood. Its no secret that the Left blogosphere is way tilted toward Obama. Site after A-list site has skewed so far to Barack that many have lost regular readers because of it. (you know who you are) So enough of this false equivalency nonsense. If Obama supporters can't bear a truth said about them without dragging in an MSM style diffusion tactic perhaps they ought to chill out once in a while.

yes indiana was taken by clinton , how sweet it was, the sore losers abounded on here , god the crying was to much to bare, so i guess everyones not in love with obama , ahhh nahhh cant be ,

FBush @ 53:

There is something of a love affair..
Our economy is tanking, we're in two wars, we're a pariah nation and
we're still bleeding jobs.

So, we give it to a guy who only won a seat in '05 and started campaigning for
prez in '07?

Yeah, someone who won a national seat, as opposed to endless governors (on both sides) and as opposed to a wannabe candidate whose only qualification was Mayor.
What is your point?

I hate to throw a damper on the Obama supporters all complaining about this commentary, but for me who can't vote for either, what these two said about a media lovein is absolutely true from my perspective. The media went for Obama immediately after the intro by Oprah and described as another MLK then the Kennedy stuff and it has been non stop support for him ever since. Sure, they covered the Wright issue because they had to. But otherwise it has been non stop trashing of both Clintons with cries of them being racists when absolutely none were called for. The media and especially CNN has been totally one sided with media pundits galore all supporting Obama but very few allowed on that support Hillary. And for the person who mentionned blogs going so Obama it is painful to read, that is also true. That is why I stated in another post that this site is so great to see where it has remained as neutral as possible and both sides are able to go at each other reasonably and the hatred doesn't hang in the air like other sites or make your stomach turn after reading some of the posts.. There are two I can't even visit any more for the daily Clinton hatred over anything and everything. I can see perfectly how Clinton supporters would seriously consider staying home or voting for McCain after they were asked that exit poll question. They have been trashed whenever they comment on blogs supporting her or been banned. They have been classified during exit polls as bigots or racist if they said they didn't vote for Obama. I will personally tell you, if I was a Clinton supporter and living in the US, I would not vote for Obama but rather stay home out of principle and that is partly because of his campaign tactics and partly because of the attitudes I see and read and hear from his supporters. .

Jiminy Jilliker @ 57:

Umm...I can't speak for all liberals, but this one thinks it's stupid to remove the "regressive" gas tax because it would fail to lower gas prices and would instead be a windfall for oil companies.

...and it would remove hundreds of thousands if not millions from the highways budget
...and it would go right into the pockets of the poeple who purport this idea in the first place
...AND not a single candidate today has the power to make such a thing happen this summer when the public is clamoring for even a scintilla of relief.

Huh.

foreigner @ 60:

I hate to throw a damper on the Obama supporters all complaining about this commentary, but for me who can't vote for either, what these two said about a media lovein is absolutely true from my perspective. The media went for Obama immediately after the intro by Oprah and described as another MLK then the Kennedy stuff and it has been non stop support for him ever since. Sure, they covered the Wright issue because they had to. But otherwise it has been non stop trashing of both Clintons with cries of them being racists when absolutely none were called for. The media and especially CNN has been totally one sided with media pundits galore all supporting Obama but very few allowed on that support Hillary. And for the person who mentionned blogs going so Obama it is painful to read, that is also true. That is why I stated in another post that this site is so great to see where it has remained as neutral as possible and both sides are able to go at each other reasonably and the hatred doesn't hang in the air like other sites or make your stomach turn after reading some of the posts.. There are two I can't even visit any more for the daily Clinton hatred over anything and everything. I can see perfectly how Clinton supporters would seriously consider staying home or voting for McCain after they were asked that exit poll question. They have been trashed whenever they comment on blogs supporting her or been banned. They have been classified during exit polls as bigots or racist if they said they didn't vote for Obama. I will personally tell you, if I was a Clinton supporter and living in the US, I would not vote for Obama but rather stay home out of principle and that is partly because of his campaign tactics and partly because of the attitudes I see and read and hear from his supporters. .

Fortunately for us, you don't live here, and your opinion on this issue as a non-citizen of this country doesn't mean jack shit. You would stay home out of principle? STFU! We the people of this country will work this out and we don't care about your weak lame assed excuses non-citizen. Now, go away. I will vote for the Dem candidate irregardless of whom is chosen in the finality.

foreigner @ 60:

And for the person who mentionned blogs going so Obama it is painful to read, that is also true. That is why I stated in another post that this site is so great to see where it has remained as neutral as possible and both sides are able to go at each other reasonably and the hatred doesn't hang in the air like other sites or make your stomach turn after reading some of the posts..

Yes...kudos to C&L...
HuffPost is but a memory. And thanks for dissing millions of Dems Arianna.

Pucker Carlson is nothing but a right wing asshole , period . As for the media's so called love affair with Obama , that's absolute bullshit , the media was relentless for weeks , over and over and over again it was Obama and the lapel pin or the bitter remark or Wright , something like 42 percent of all media coverage of the campaign the last few weeks was the Wright whoop dee doo , playing it up for all it was worth . All you have seen the last couple of weeks was Clinton for crying out loud , only now we are seeing more of Obama after he won in North Carolina and nearly took Indiana except for Limbaugh's ditto shit heads .You would not have known that Clinton was all but out of the race by the media coverage . This so called love affair is just more bullshit , standard procedure for the right wing "pundits " and the Repugs . What the hell is wrong with these people ? They are friggin nuts !

People like Obama because he is good. He has given hope to a lot of young and old voters alike. He has not run a negative campaign like Hills. I would vote for Hills if she won the nomination but I would have to do it holding my nose and garlic in my mouth. The thing that got me was when she was asked if she thought that Obama was a Muslim and she said “As far as I know he is not.” There are countless other things as well but she is just a… oh never mind.
Scar and Fucker are the definition of assholes. Have either of these two commented critically about that Hagee shithead? How about McShame’s idiotic comments about the economy or the Republican induced housing crisis or his stupid shopping trips to Iraq? Who has a boner for who is my question.
This makes me very bitter.I may have to go to church tomorrow.

When are we going to take the grove off and ask people like Joe and Tucker hard questions that they refuse to answers, we have to start e-mailing Joe in the morning show, to ask Joe S. what really happen to the dead intern found in this office on capital hill, and why was Tucker in the bath room with a man looking to have a pick up moment,come on people we have to have a two prong attack, first John McHundred and then his puppets, put the spot light on both.

Does anyone really know why Tucker is still on the air? I mean Crossfire was cancelled, his show was cancelled, and he is still there! Why? Does he have a family member that has some pull? God he makes me sick!!

MsJoanne @ 1:

I'll take 9th grade over these idiotic 3rd grade mouthpieces, any day.

To both Tucker and Scarborough...STFU. Morons.

MsJoanne @ 1:

I'll take 9th grade over these idiotic 3rd grade mouthpieces, any day.

To both Tucker and Scarborough...STFU. Morons.

You are so right!! They are both Morons. I can't believe that after all that has come out thhese past years about the war in Iraq, they still toll the moronic line !! They must be brain dead, like that Beatch on the View EH. She is as scary as that wingnut Ann Colter !!

Vid working.

That was worse than I had imagined. Tucker always had to "stay seated" in school: he was watching the boys' packages and daydreaming. This clip was very schoolgirl/schoolyard; especially the sassy (come-do-me) blonde.

Only ninth graders could understand this issue!

Just think about this; Rachel Maddow almost had the Scar show.They gave it to scar instead of Rachel. It could have also been Stephanie Miller too. Opportunity lost.

This is a PERFECT example of the TRIVIAL BULLSHIT that passes for national news and political commentary appearing DAILY on MSNBC's "Morning Jo(k)e."

Obama Voter @ 80:

Only ninth graders could understand this issue!

Right, by extension, Obama voters are love-sick ninth graders. Next they'll be challenging us at the polls. Oh wait...

hillary losing the nomination is going limit the amount of payoffs bill can collect. there goes the $500,000. speeches.

Pat J @ 61:

Bonkers Hussein @ 43:

Pat J @ 33:

I am not sure why all the indignation on this site. Much of their commentary in this instance is true. As a matter of fact, KO acts like someone ready to pick out the ring. And Tweety (is his hair color turning to orange?) acts like he would have a problem standing up after an Obama speech. Jack Cafferty is perfectly bombastic if anyone demonstrates a hint of criticism. Tucker and Joe may be tools but they are not far off the mark in this regard.

Look, you named three people and that's fair enough in the sense that now we can debate your assertions about them. But these clowns were making it sound like the entire MSM throws effin' rose petals in front of Obama wherever he goes. Their meme concerning the MSM is particularly irritating for those of us who have to take antibiotics just rid ourselves of the Rev Wright Story filth that was forced into our system for the last 2 months.

my usual full disclosure when on this topic:
I voted for Hills and this kind of attack on Obama bugs the hell out of me, just as it would with any other candidate.

For the record let me add a few more: Rachel Maddow, Howard Fineman, David Gregory, David Shuster, Richard Wollfe, Dana Milbank, Michael Dyson, Bob Herbert, Andrea Mitchell, Tim Russert, Donna Brazile, Gloria Borger, Eugene Robinson.

LOL
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man."
-The Dude

Seriously, even if I wanted to take the time to debate every one of your picks, we'd likely get nowhere. We would argue nuance and sound-bites all night. (sorry for the long gap. I was commuting home from work) The only point of contention I am interested in as it concerns this thread is this particular conversation between these particular boneheads. You don't think they were making an unfair (and apparently LSD/Ecstacy-induced) generalization, and I do. That's about the size of it.

Peace!

Just a quick thought... on another FAMOUS LOSER of a FAMOUS DAD.

Dad: "Following the attacks on Pearl Harbor in 1941, at the age of 18, Bush postponed going to college and became the youngest naval aviator in US history. He served until the end of the war, then attended Yale University. Graduating in 1948, he moved his young family to West Texas and entered the oil business, becoming a millionaire by the age of 40." (again, Wikipedia)
Then there was something about the CIA... and, OH, YEA... the Presidency.

Now compare that to...

Son: "W," who screwed up everything he ever touched.

CowboyBob in Austin @ 87:

Jamie @ 74:

Does anyone really know why Tucker is still on the air? I mean Crossfire was cancelled, his show was cancelled, and he is still there! Why? Does he have a family member that has some pull? God he makes me sick!!

Wikipedia: on Tuckler Carlson:

He is one of the sons of Richard Warner Carlson, a former banker, Los Angeles local news anchor, U.S. ambassador to the Seychelles, director of the U.S. Information Agency, and president of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. His mother is the former Patricia Caroline Swanson. He has one sibling, Buckley Swanson Peck Carlson. Carlson's maternal grandmother, Roberta Fulbright Swanson, was a sister of U.S. Senator J. William Fulbright.[2].

That's why he's still on the air. Not because of ANY talent... but because of his PEDIGREE and family influence. Welcome to THE MACHINE.

Tucker and Buckley? What were their parents thinking of? Just think of the varied nicknames could be made out of Tucker and Buckley Swanson Peck. They must have been tortured on the playground.

John Scar:

No, seriously. The media’s love affair with Barack Obama is all-consuming. It is..it is…no, it really is. It is a ninth grade love affair, where if you say anything about their love interest, they get very red-faced, angry, and emotional. They can’t really think logically about it.

You know what Scar and Tucker are doing here? They are baiting the media, trying to get more attacks against Obama. They know full well that Obama has being getting it hard, while the real media ninth grade love affair is with McCain.

How much you want to bet the media plays along with this gambit, thinking they are being too easy on Obama?

Another pathetic little stunt was Tucker trying to convince the electorate to go back to Hillary, in a typical wingnut concern troll way.

Andrew @ 65:

I guess Tucker and Joe were on vacation during Reverend Wright?

And the "bad bowlers can't be president" fiasco, the "people who choose orange juice instead of coffee can't be president" horror, the "arugula elitist" catastrophe, the "your neighbor did something bad years ago so you must be bad" scandal. Geez, these dumbfucks apparently were sleeping through the last 5 months.

The only people that vote republican are the super stupid, the super greedy, and the insane, they are what makes up the republican party.
Small minded biggots.

anybody but obama please!

You'll have to do better than that boys.
*

Far less than their teenage girl first love sick of Bush and Republicans leaves them blind to all their wrongs.

BAC @ 105:

Joe and Tucker are just giving voice to what they see on MSNBC. That news team DOES have a 9th grade crush on Obama. Heck, I think Chris Matthews would have Obama's baby if it were physically possible. And Keith Olbermann would, too!!

When you toss in Timmy Russert, well ... it's an Obama love fest.

BAC

Russert and Mathhews love Obama? You must get a different MSNBC than the one I get.

they are playing with us - making us out as shallow and uneducated - they have no respect for the electorate

110 donmyers Says: they are playing with us - making us out as shallow and uneducated - they have no respect for the electorate

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We don't have any respect for them, so that kinda makes us equal.

They're already playing the refs.

25 Nicole Belle Says:
sun tzu @ 13:
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Very true. C&L absolutely has NOT endorsed any one candidate.

Media's love affair with Obama?!? Looks to me like they are doing everything they can to destroy him. What alternate universe do these two douchebags live in?

I wonder if threir employers have any idea how stupid and corrupt these two knuckleheads are making them look...or proving them to be?

C'mon, give these two guys a break. They work for MSNBC, they're both more infinitely qualified to know about the media's love affair for Obama. They are surrounded by it every minute they're in the studio. We see what Keith Olbermann is like on the air; imagine what he's like with those two guys off camera.

One big difference between Scarborough-Carlson and Obama supporters- these two don't hate Obama. Obama supporters HATE these two guys though. The so-called reality-based community is full of hate for people who don't think like them. Their concept of reality can't seem to comprehend why that might be considered snobbish and elitist by anyone.

Ok, so the love for Obama is a 9th grade love affair.
Then I guess the love for McCain would be a 12th grade one. Senior Year. Get it, Senior? McCain? Ha!
(Alright, maybe it wasn't that funny...)

Slice and dice it any way you want to, IT'S ALL ABOUT RACE! No one in the MSM will allow the blacks in the past have voted 100% for white candidates in federal, state and local elections. Now that one of their race has 50-50 chance of winning the election they should not vote for them, using that matrix, women should not vote for Hillary. I do not hear democrats that support Obama saying that Hillary can't win because she and McCain will split the white vote and blacks will not vote for her. That means that whe will lose about 38% of the Dem base and will not win without it. I am a Floridian, I vote in the primary knowing, like Hillary and her supporters, that Floridas' delegates would not be counted, now she wants to change the rule. It appears when the Clintons can't win by the rule you forget them and make new ones and keep moving the goal posts.

What would that make the love affair between the media and John McCain? A nursing home infatuation?

So is the media's love affair with john mccain the 9th level of Hell?

If the media is to be faulted for having a schoolroom crush on Obama and McCain, shouldn't that mean we'd all support Hillary?

It is not their intention to add truth to the public discourse.

ysbaddaden @ 130:

If the media is to be faulted for having a schoolroom crush on Obama and McCain, shouldn't that mean we'd all support Hillary?

Nope, just Nicole Belle

kenoshaMarge @ 135:

If Obama is the nominee

is this a post from the not-too-distant past?

bitter Edwin Hussein @ 117:

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The media is all for McSame. The CONSERVATIVE media all have an axe to grind with the Clintons; they are all pro-GOP. Any good GOP-er hates the Clintons with every breath they take (or something like that).

If you think non-stop Wright coverage, "is he black enough??", the secret Muslim (a sleeper, an Islamofascist terrorist) card, "elitest", Hussein, the Indonesian madrassa, won't wear a lapel pin etc., etc., is support, you live in an odd odd country.

If you think this cream puff obamalamadingdong has faced ANY tough campigning and questions so far you really are suffering from koolaide poisoning. If this empty suit IS the Dem candidate the repugs are going to send the share prices of the vintners who bottle bubbly through the ROOF. Because they know how farkin EASY and what a SLAUGHTER the general election is gonna be. And they also know that if obamalamadingdong is the candidate they will do MUCH better down ticket also. So cheer and dream on obamazoids, but be careful what ya wish for, ya just might get it!

These two are too much. If it were some conservative Republican (though that's really hard to imagine), they'd label it Obama charismatic.

Let's see who could that be in the Republican party? Uh, Mitt? No, too much department store mannequin going on there. Jeb Bush? Too much Pillsbury Doughboy. Sen. Craig? Too much, uh, too much.

The Republicans hated Bill Clinton because he had "it". Now, it's Barack's turn.

Travis @ 134:

ysbaddaden @ 130:

If the media is to be faulted for having a schoolroom crush on Obama and McCain, shouldn't that mean we'd all support Hillary?

Nope, just Nicole Belle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOtC-xvmFJI

PssttCmere @ 59:

obama sheople will take exception to what they say, but it is pretty much right on the money.

Nothing like a nice generalization to start the day.

I voted for Obama in the Missouri primary. I made up my mind the weekend before. I had been interested in Edwards until he dropped out.

I really liked Hillary. Still do most of the time. I will vote for her if she pulls this thing out. I voted for Obama because Republicans have 30 years of dirt on the Clintons and they will use every last lie they have in their trick bags. I can't stand the thought of what that particular general election could become.

That's why I chose Obama. He seems very smart, and Republicans will look like the nasty racists they are when they make their little inferences. I also think the contrast between Obama and McCain will seem startling by November.

So, instead of assuming that every person who has chosen Obama is some star-struck idiot, give some of us credit for conscious reflection. After all, we're Democrats, so we've actually thought some things through. Though I picked Bill Clinton to support after seeing him on C-Span for a total of 10 minutes in 1991.

WTF do either of these two morons know about 9th grade crushes. I doubt if either had a girlfriend or (in Tucker's case) a boyfriend in the 9th grade. Saying that I should add that it is possible Tuckers family paid some right wing families ugly little fat daughter to go with him to the prom. If so I feel sorry for her.
Is there any doubt that I have absolutely no intrest at all in what either of these two have to say about anything.

I would pay big money to see Scarborough & Carlson get repeatedly punched in the face.

Dr. Acula @ 145:

About 99% of the time I watch & listen to Obama I REALLY like what I hear -- both content-wise and presentation-wise. Shrillary could/should take a lesson.

Obama a better candidate today because he's had Hillary as his teacher. He is saying many of the same things she has been saying for months now. My question is, who will he copy from if he DOES become the nominee?

BAC