Audio: Military Analyst to Rumsfeld: You are our leader. Had O'Reilly eating out of his hand
By John Amato Sunday May 11, 2008 11:00am
I have to give Howard Kurtz some credit because he hasn't backed away from the Military Generals scandal. He plays audio from one of the military analysts who was part of the propaganda scandal with the Pentagon and who lovingly praises Rumsfeld. It looks like O'Reilly was used in the same way that Dick Cheney used Russert in spreading their talking points to the American people. What say you, O'Reilly?
Download | play 
Download | play
Kurtz: The networks continue to ignore that New York Times story about TV's military analysts getting briefings and talking points from the Pentagon as they defended the Iraq war effort.
We reported twice on this program a huge batch of documents and e-mails show how cozy that relationship was. But now comes an audiotape of it, 2006 meeting between more than a dozen analysts and Don Rumsfeld, in which some of the retired military officers are giving the secretary advice on selling the war.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We would love for you to take the offensive and just go out there and just crush these people. You are the leader. You're our guy. You go on O'Reilly, and you've got him eating out of your hand because you're smart.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
KURTZ: Eating out of your hand. And these men were presenting themselves to television viewers as objective military analysts.
Login or Register to post comments.
In the Jungle the Mighty Jungle the TV glows tonight.
Hillary may yet put on a pair of overalls with one suspender and have her picture taken sucking on a jug of moonshine likker.
I have a friend who is a Navy pilot. He and his colleagues hate Bill O'Reilly. They see him as a chickenhawk propagandist with no idea what he's talking about. I guess the Pentagon sees him that way too - and exploits it.
Bill O'Reilly is a republican tool? *GASP* *keels over dead from shock*
Rusty Shackleford @ 2:
Have some friends in both the Corps and the Navy. They loathe Bill O and the others. They are none too fond of their Commander in Chief either who they describe as a draft dodging coward. (Well, that's the "clean" version).
I thought the hand/puppet metaphor would have been more accurate :)
Blah, Blah, Blah !!!!
What about Obama not wearing a flag lapel pin ?!?!?!
What about Rev Wright ?!?!?!?
LOOK EVERYONE, I have a shiny, sparkly object over here !!
Chico Hussein @ 6:
I can only imagine the Rove Machine has someone waiting in the wings that will swear Obama sold him cocaine in college.
Chico Hussein @ 6:
FTFY
There are tons of video clips that show the media is compromised and working in coordination with our govt. Just turn on your TV, flip to the media outlet of your choice and just wait a min or two. You'll see one.
Anyone who was really objective was fired by this administration long before 2006.
I hope they're paying attention over at the Hague.
We know nothing is going to happen here about it.
O'rally eating out of your hand - a rather sickening thought.
I can only imagine the Rove Machine has someone waiting in the wings that will swear Obama sold him cocaine in college.
Yep... that's actually one of the tamer scenarios that i imagine happening
in the days leading up to the election.
L.A. Confidential @ 7:
McSame says he wants to run an 'Honorable' campaign. I just dont see him going that route. Even if it was Hamas who sold him the cocaine and turned the profits over to Al Queda so they could use it to kill Americans, all with Obama's blessings.
Our Infrastructure is 100 years old.
Thats another thing to think about.
L.A. Confidential @ 15:
Shit thats not old, only 28 years older than McCain ;)
Rusty Shackleford @ 8:
LOL!!!
'Scary black men' sure have a way of clearing up Republican's confused brains.
L.A. Confidential @ 15:
Careful, or a "concerned" poster will call you ageist.
L.A. Confidential @ 15:
Maybe that's why McSame wants to stay in Iraq for a hundred years. This way, they cannot rebuild any infrastructure for the duration of the war and thus they would be as incapacitated as America is. THEN, we can "win" the war.
L.A. Confidential @ 15:
100 years? in philly that is considered brand spanking new.
we are headed for a hard fall. and just watch as capital flees america, like rats on a sinking ship.
lyleleander @ 13:
"Let the Media do the Talking"
I suspect this is the new enhanced con strategy. The media says OBAMA WAS A COCAINE DEALER! Everyone will freak out of course and McCain will say. "Huhhh? Oh I didn't know that. Anyway, I'm a busy man, I got a mission to accomplish when I'm elected President. Let the media and voters sort it out."
The Free Ride Strategy
The unidentified male voice was actually Osama Bin Laden.
Birds of a feather coming home to rule the roost.
Eating out of another man's hand must be one of them "traditionalist values" O'Racist is always ranting about.
Of course they lie about being objective. They lie about everything else.
[a href="http://www.thepoliticaljerk.com/"]-The Political Jerk[/a]
Samson- @ 20:
One thing is obvious I don't see Americans rushing out to get into the trades or industrial arts much these days.
Windows Vista isn't going to fix roads, highways, bridges, sewers, grids, etc.
It seems we at C&L are really getting under Billy the KidGoat O'Rielly's skin
Watch this video Billy going nuts--make sure kids don't listen to the asshole swear
http://www.breakthematrix.com/2008-Elections/Bill-OReilly-Goes-Nuts
Bye "liberal" media myth. GOP psy-ops blew its cover and won't have you to kick around anymore.
Congress and the American people were sold a lie, period. Too bad we don't have a media to investigate it, or a Congress with the balls to pursue it either.
Required @ 27:
Senator Levin intends to investigate it.
HA. I wonder what's going on in O'Reilly's little pea brain?
Has he completely purged the memory of his pledge to 'never trust the Bush Administration again' if WMD wasn't found...? Will he make the connection between that incident and this one...?
Will he allow himself to notice that he was played for a fool?
CatAtomic @ 29:
Bills an ultra ultra conservative. They stay in control and on top of the game by using the anything goes and nothing matters technique. Whatever it takes to advance the con agenda and stay 3 steps ahead of the pack.
L.A. Confidential @ 25:
no friggin doubt
college was supposed to be the path to a successful career. it seems that trade school is the new college. as david cay johnston wrote in 'free lunch', any job that is done on the computer or over the phone will go overseas until there is a global balance... in like 150 years....
i have said it a million times, and i repeat: capital and corporations don't give 2 shits about america. they only care about market share and accruing more capital.
You mean to tell me they used O'Reilly a stooge. I'm Shocked. Shocked I tell you.
Captain Bitter Elitist Husein Kangaroo @ 32:
I know. Who woulda thunk it?!
The sad thing is that O'Reilly believes that he is the 21st century's answer to Edward R. Murrow.
The 'war' in Iraq is the greatest swindle in the history of the world.
Oh! I'm a broken record.
Here from Salon, Michael T. Klare asks 'Who is the super power now?'
Edward Gibsons, where are you now that we need you?
Here from Chapter 1 of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire
"Trajan was ambitious of fame; and as long as mankind shall continue to bestow more liberal applause on their destroyers than on their benefactors, the thirst of military glory will ever be the vice of the most exalted characters." Chapter 1
the DOD's black-ops media propaganda effort has been exposed. which, i would argue, has less to do with the pentagon and more to do with the offense industry.
but...
how many more covert pundits/talking heads/news models curse the ariwaves? how many more industries have paid operatives doing the msm rounds?
we know, for sure, that exxon paid scientists to argue against the climate change. when you watch faux/cnn/msnbc/pbs be hesitant to believe anything any "expert" claims. the insurance industry, the automotive industry, coal, etc. all have an interest is deceiving the public, and, i for one, am not naive enough to think that they would not attempt to "control" a story by planting an industry spokesperson, under the guise of indep analyst, on the msm. and, as we have seen, the msm is not concerned with vetting one's credentials, nor investigating any financial conflict of interest.
Samson- @ 31:
Corporate-crybaby
A bit wiser and a whole lot older, feelin' bolder
Suckin' up to the last stockholder with a
Golden parachute slung over your shoulder
Celebrity-stud-monkey
Kiss and tell, got a book to sell
'Cause you don't excel or do anything well
Since you slipped past thirty, better keep the sex dirty
Alice (The Romans Fell, so shall we) @ 35:
The Neocons never read the Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire. But Iraq and Afghanistan's toll on our military and economy probably won't stop them from bombing Iran.
L.A. Confidential @ 37:
Just enhancing Samon's observation a bit.
L.A. Confidential @ 25:
I am a librarian assistant at a technical college. While the enrollment in traditional colleges is going down, our enrollment for the past ten years is continuously going up. Last year, we had a 20% increase over the year before. Some of that is that the ecomony is bad and when that happens, people go back to school. However, most of it is that a lot more people want and need the technical trainging and education.
Scy @ 4:
As a Navy veteran, the wife of a Navy veteran, and the mother of an Army veteran, I can tell you that we all three hate O'Reilly and his like with an abiding passion. The same emotions apply to the chicken hawk president and his even more chicken hawk vice president.
aaaa...who owns the MSM?......never mind.
Am I the only who's having a slow time getting the page to reload. Slow all around.
Where is the outrage!?
Barbara @ 40:
Barabara,
Can you say what percentage of the students there are receiving training in potentially out-sourcable jobs like software engineering, telephone-based tech support, etc. versus "hands-on" trades like network infrastructure & maintenance, industrial trades, etc.?
I wonder if the hackers are back. Funny thing, after the O'Lielly thread, they pulled the vid of the bombastic one and things slow down here.hmmmmmmmmmmm?
Leslie [Hussein] @ 38:
Edward Gibbon [my bad] his monumental work: 'The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
The surprise is not that the Roman Empire fell, but that it lasted so long.
I wonder if future historians (if there are any) will ask the same question of us.
"...eating out of you hand" and "Rumsfeld" in the same sentence reminds me of this classic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhuMLpdnOjY
Blue Lensman @ 45:
About 10% are network jobs. The other areas include electronics, electrics, dental, truck driving, healthcare, etc
It's a bad day to be Bill-o. Aaahahahahahaha!!!
O'Reilly is having a bad day, leaked video of him having some sort of break down and a clarification that he's nothing but a shill for the military industrial complex and the pentagon.
Alice (Rome didn't fall in one day) @ 47:
I think what future historians will ask will be:
How did they squander so much, so fast.
Barbara @ 41:
Same here. I teach medically related classes PT at a local community college and the health care technical programs are in very high demand.
I simply stopped watching O'Reilly and Hannity and especially Hannity's America. When a traitor like Karl Rove is on FOX you know its time to turn channels.
I guess you would first have had to believe that there was such a thing as an "objective" military analyst. Like it was a stretch to think that a retired general wouldn't still have ties to the military. I honestly don't see what all the surprise is about. For me the only surprise is discovering that people believed these butt-puppets in the first place.
Not only eating out of Rumsfeld's hand, but off of Bush's plate. "No WMD over there, maybe over here? They gotta be here sumwere." Corporate media. Disgusting.
Che's Lounge @ 54:
I recently took Amtrak from New York to Washington and back. I was appalled at all the closed and crumbling factories along the train route in Philly and Baltimore especially. I grew up in Philly and see it crumbling. I now live in DC for the last 30 years. Its sad to see America sold out to China and India and other countries. Which candidate will do more to correct this?
Remember this is not just Bush's fault. Pretty much all of the Republicans, and too many Democrats bought everything he sold. They are trying to destroy this country so they can be rich. Republicans hate America.
It's all alot of fun catching Republicans at this game, but we should all know that the Democrats play this game just as well. Wesley Clark, Madeline Albright, and Holbrooke are experts.
Go back and look at the coverage of Clinton's war in the Balkans. We should all well remember the refrain of it all. 100,000 rapes of Bosnian women. 100,000 Kosovo civilians killed. 100,000 of whatever....
Some Washington PR firm figured out that 100,000 was somehow a magic number, something that would stick in the public's mind and it did.
Now, after the U.N. and NATO has had control of the ground in that area for more than a decade, guess what? None of the 100,000 of whatever ever materialized. All those mass graves in Kosovo...not there.
But it made for great TV, didn't it? And you supported the war then, didn't you?
Bottom line is that both parties play this game, only that Bush was much better at it.
Rico @ 60:
Much better at it? Five years plus of war and billions of dollars and thousands of American Deaths and you say Bush is much better at it?
" O'Reilly received his BA in History in 1971. He played semi-professional baseball at this time, as a pitcher for the New York Monarchs. He unsuccessfully tried out for the New York Mets." (As found at Wikipedia)
Quoting directly from his Selective Service Record, which I received from the Selective Service thru a FOIA:
O'Reilly,William James Selective Service Number: 30-4-49-2597 DOB 9-10-49
From 11-22-67 through his physical, Bill'o followed the Selective Service Rules ! Then starting with his graduation from College and his Armed Forces Physical in May of '71 something terrible must of happened to Bill'o!
Armed Forces Physical Examination: Date(s) 5-14-71 Results: Rej.
1-Y: 8-16-71 - 1-18-72
1-Y: Registrant qualified for service only in time of war or national emergency
4-F: 1-18-72......
4-F: Registrant not qualified for military service.
Bill'o went from being a physically fit college laddie, graduating from college,to his death bed all in one big swoop in May of 71! BUT!!! he played semi-professional baseball (as a pitcher) at the same time he was found to be unfit for military service!
Now one might ask, how can you be a physically fit young laddie of 20, physically fit to play pro-ball, but at the same exact time (May '71- May '72) be physically unfit to serve in the military?
Anyone have the answer of what might of happened to Billo in May of '71?
What amazes (and disgusts) me when I read this is what craven, sycophantic, suck-ups these people are. I saw some pretty heinous ass kissing in the Army, but this is embarrassing. I guess that’s how they made such high rank in the first place. From what I've read though, Bush and Rumsfeld crave this sort of thing.
sher @ 61:
Good point! Yes, it was an understatement. Certainly there are differences in degree and consequences, but the similarities are there nonetheless. The Republicans are masters at manipulation. I just don't want it to be forgotten that Bill Clinton and his administration also manipulated the media and the American public, lied about threats and facts on the ground, killed civilians in the way, and got away with it.
Rico @ 64:
Point well taken. It pays to communicate intelligently.
L.A. Confidential @ 38:
George @ 26:
That video is has been taken down from every YouTube account that posts it.
Here it is from Hollywood Grind...
If he was that bad then, imagine what it must be like to work for him now.
Does this sound like the way that the brave men and women who are fighting for our country’s security should be treated?
“In Camp Ar Ramadi, we often ran out of water. When our water tanks ran out, we were told we’d have to wait for KBR to come and empty out the bad water and refill our non-potable water. Some days the water smelled like sulfur, other days it smelled like straight sewage. They told us to make sure we kept our mouths closed in the showers when we complained about the smell. I can’t count the number of days I left the showers feeling dirtier than when I went in and many others shared those feelings. I know many soldiers used the water for brushing their teeth or shaving and others even used it for coffee and hot chocolate.”
I don’t think so, and neither does Rachel, the former soldier who provided this first hand account of the dangerous negligence that results from the complete lack of accountability for private contractors like KBR and Blackwater.
Rachel approached us and is ready to tell her very moving and provocative story of the contractor abuses she witnessed — everything from abominable pay discrepancies to unsafe water to electrocution due to KBR’s bad wiring.
I hope you’ll join us for a very special blog series featuring Rachel’s story. The series will be in 5 parts, Monday through Friday of this week, on our blog, Building a Progressive Future. You can subscribe to our blog through the RSS feed to stay updated on Rachel’s story and more developments on contractor behavior. Click here to subscribe: http://progressivefuture.org/blog.rss
You probably won’t be that surprised to hear about the things that Rachel witnessed — people in progressive, active circles have been talking about this serious issue for a while now. But this story has been so buried in the media that the average American doesn’t realize how widespread and severe the negligence really is. In fact, Rachel has been pressured and manipulated into keeping her story out of the media. This blog series gives us the opportunity to make this story accessible and available to everyone — not in the form of a dissociated news story, but in the words of a former soldier who saw it with her own eyes. I hope you’ll invite your friends and family to read Rachel’s story as well; you can click here to spread the word: http://www.progressivefuture.org/contractor-accountability/rachel
Thank you for your support, and we hope you’ll join us for this special event.
FOX is a joke, a very bad joke, and billo and hannity are the clowns.
THEY'RE A DISGRACE
The general's comments are obviously a fraud - the current admin knows that Billo eats out of their hands.
He is an integral part of their propaganda machine.
No need to be smart or convincing.
Just send in the rough sketch and he will create the talking points with appropriate histrionics-embellishments.
FreePress.net and others dont think Kurtz has gone far enough - and dont forget CNN's role in this!
See video here, and write to Congress too: http://tinyurl.com/6ypkjy
1-Y indicates the person has an ailment that doesn't grant them a full 4-F but would make active service difficult. Howard Dean got a 1-Y deferment because he had a mild congenital muscular disorder.
General examples of class 1-Y conditions would be high blood pressure or hypertension, a chronic limiting (but not debilitating) muscular or skeletal disorder or injury, a skin disorder (e.g.: Psoriasis), or chronic and severe acne (as their compromised skin made sufferers more prone to various infections). Registrants would otherwise be in good health.
After 1971, the category was eliminated and most 1-Ys were reclassified as 4-Fs, since they had a medical condition that precluded active service.
Frank @ 62:
Frank
Excellent post. It should also be noted that the flag waving O'Reilly also played tight end for his college football team, which, as you noted, should have certainly made him physically available for the Selective Service induction center. The hypocrisy of O'Reilly should be quite apparent. He, like so many other chickenhawks, is quite ready to advocate that the U.S. bomb and invade other countries but yet when it came time for him to demonstrate his patriotism, he mysteriously came nowhere near a field of combat while wearing a military uniform. Bill O'Reilly-a case of do as I say, not as I do.
But as your comment indicates, O'Reilly managed to somehow acquire a 4-F classification while I ended up 1-A, which ended up being a one way ticket to Vietnam. At least with Rush Limbaugh, one knows that the reason for his getting out of the military was a cyst on his buttocks. One wonders why no one in the media has asked O'Reilly how he managed to get a 4-F rating which enabled him to skate away from the jungles of Vietnam. Like so many faux macho men, O'Reilly emits a lot of sound and fury, which signifies nothing.
You'd almost think that "general" wanted to get into Rumsfeld's pants, wouldn't you? Maybe to rim him.
Erroll,
I FOIAed and received Limbaughs Selective Service Record also! He's also one big liar about how he got out of the draft ! Got Boortz, Ted Nugents , Tancredo, and Chambliss's records and they also lied about how they skated out of the draft and Nam!
Rush's record leaves big holes in his excuse of have a cyst for a butt-hole!
This entire business was about war profiteering.
This story will have legs when the taxpayers realize that they are being fleeced.
This was a swindle.
Because we borrowed so much of the money, it will be future taxpayers who will be outraged the most.
Frank @ 62:
That's the year his belly turned yellow and his chickenhawk wings began to sprout.
I had poor eyesight, wore eyeglasses and that didn't stop the Army for calling me for a physical. I had already joined the Naval Reserve, and when I got my orders for the Mekong Delta riverboats, I went because it was my duty. And this athletic piece of shit O'Rielly gets a deferment? Fucking coward.
And where are the Democrats? How many scandals, war crimes, crimes against the US people are they going to ignore? This administration should have been impeached long ago for deceiving the public yet the Democrats show no outrage?
Bill O'Reilly is a stupid asshole and so is anyone who listens to him!
Drunksfeld selling death? Say it isn't so! I'm sure Bill O'Anger was stroking his tool every time Rummy or any Bushite would come on his show.
Bwaaaah! BillO got punked by his own military "expert". Of course, it was exactly what he wanted to hear so he'll deny the punking.
Login or Register to post comments.