McClellan: "There's Certainly Allies That Work In Fox News"
By Jamie Wednesday May 28, 2008 9:00pmDuring the third segment of Keith Olbermann's interview with Scott McClellan, he reaffirmed what we all have know - FOX is the White House's buddy:
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Another interesting part came during this exchange:
Olbermann: "Were the critics in the media largely right"
McClellan: "In terms of Iraq they were largely right"
Yup but instead these people ended up being called names like "unpatriotic" or "freedom haters", when all along they should have been called "the voice of reason".








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Can we impeach now or are we still waiting for a blow job?
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billy @ 2:
Always the bride's maid but never the bride eh Billy?
Good to hear from McClellan off the podium.
Fox is fixed. Who knew. I was much more concerned about the Iran talk.
Well, it's obvious that this admin has certain allies on the Supreme Court too.
Always remember this guy didn`t need to be waterboarded. He just plain had enough.
Note to McClellen: Cancel that hunting trip with Dick Cheney and avoid Laura Bush at intersections. http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/laura.asp
Kieth: Did you ever lie at the podium?
Scotty: What, about the war or Plame? All the f--king time dude.
I'm paraphrasing of course.
Now that he's the media darling, we're supposed to forget what a total liar he is? I ain't buying this sudden epiphany of his. He was a whore for Dubya, now he's a whore to sell books. Something about all of this stinks. And parading him on show after show is just more buying into the same old lies. Liars interviewing liars. Sadly, nothing will come of this except a big ol paycheck for Scottie.
What amazes me is after all this time it is finally being discussed openly. In the MSM, no less.
Has the third seal been broken?
the french have got a word for it.
you know on one on here ever goes THETH!.
I need to sit. fox is in WITH the admin. NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
the next thing you'll be telling me is that obama is for change.
or THIRTEENTH!!!!!!!!
Though not quite as cerebral as another important White House insider turned tell-all, Scott may turn out to be the new millenium's version of John Dean.
Yeah, they blamed the intell:
Seven of every 10 dollars America now spends on intelligence actually goes to private corporations, where ex-government employees often do the same jobs they used to do—for double the salary. “It's unseemly, and what's worse is that it has become normal,” said one intelligence expert. “The Intelligence Community and the contractors are so tightly intertwined that their interests are identical.”
Source Salon
http://www.newser.com/story/28717.html
Yeah, that pos Tenet is making millions. The mafia is jealous of this racket.
Marc @ 4:
Albeit on apparent egg shells.
Was one of the conditions of his appearance that Keith had to smooch his ass for 40 minutes? The part at the end about the book being used by future generations as study material.....um, yak! Maybe in ethics class as an example of what having none looks like.
That's a typo, what Scotty really meant to say is that there are Ailes that worked at Fox News. Ailes is the correct answer.
Did anyone see Ari "The Flack" Fleischer on Larry King last night? Oh my God, he looked like a warmed-over pile of shit! Glad to see Karma's finally catching up to that liar.
getalife @ 16:
When BushCo says "the buck stops here" they do mean literally... in their off-shore bank accounts.
So what's he telling us that we don't already know? Just because the Bush administration says up is down doesn't make it so. McClellan looks thinner and more mature. It's nice to see a person with a conscience come out of this administration...finally... - though the Bush gang will make him pay for it.
Come on Scotty tell us why BushCo really lied to us, depleted out military, squandered our tax dollars and killed thousands of innocent people and 4,000 US soldiers in the process. Tell us what this war was really about Scotty.
Oil http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Cheneys_stock_options_rose_3281_last_1011.... more oil http://www.aztlan.net/oiltanker.htm and revenge http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/09/27/bush.war.talk/
Impeach.
Indict.
Imprison.
Biff Limbaugh @ 12:
And what would that be?
Maybe" Hock Tooey"
MN USA @ 21:
Sadly enough, that is the crux of this entire thing. Yes, Scott is finally confirming what a lot of us has been thinking since the first days of this entire war brouhaha. I agree that it is very nice that finally the media has to squirm for being called out on their behavior.
But, I also agree that the Bush folks are a vicious group. I hate to say it, but does anyone think that Scott might head down the same trail as the DC Madam?
What a cowardly piece of shit he is... what a collectively cowardly pile of shit the media is. Here come the rat shit anchors and "reporters" (the rats left that ship earlier), crying about how their oppressive corporate masters forced them to shamelessly cheerlead the invasion. They were held captive by their multi-million dollar contracts.
He's the worst one because he helped sell the bullshit from ground zero.
Sure, everyone knows that Fox News is right wing. Again, Scott reveals nothing new. The difference in his critique from left wing or objective sources is his absolution of right wing ideology in practice and the deliberate nature of the Bush regime's malfeasance as the responsible factors and instead places the locus of blame on bad advise and circumstance. McClellan's book is a self-serving pseudo-mea-culpa on par with Albert Speer's "Inside the Third Reich."
The real danger to our democracy comes, not from Fox, but the
MainstreamCorporate Media which maintains a superficial veil of objectivity. Yellin's admission that network suits manipulated reportage to favor the Bush regime, is a stark reminder that the Corporate Media is not an objective observer, but a partisan actor with a symbiotic relationship with the Republican party and it's ideology of deregulation.William @ 25:
Actually I think Ari Fleisher was there at the beginning, this guy filled in after Ari bailed out.
I heard on the Verdict that after darth shot his buddy in the face he told someone to give the story to fake news so other networks would have to quote fake news.
heartless, petty, shallow, nasty, mean
William @ 25:
Well said!
The trolls will be out heavy tonight. Watch all the dumping on McClellan instead of the Chimp and his Organgrinders.
If you want to read scotty's book save yourself some money and read the archives of this and many other progressive blogs.
maybe scotty had to write his book.
Steve E @ 30:
why can't people dump on both? What makes McClellen so special now? He's been in Dubya's right pocket since his days as Governor. So, now that he decides he wants to 'come clean', he's an okay guy? People died while he lied.
empy @ 18:
Really, the man is a smarmy, sweating little toad(y).
He gets anyone's respect - why...?
CoIntelPro for Democratic Party Victory @ 91:
GaMeOfLiFe --A Hussein Saved My Life @ 28:
I don't think it's necessarily the adjectives you mentioned as much as it was a way to legitimize Fox. More propaganda. Plain and simple.
Live Frankly
I was amazed McClellan consented to be interviewed in front of a window. I kept waiting for the pink mist.
abarts @ 32:
and people died BECAUSE he lied!
Hey, guys, it's a joke the way the right wing reacts when one of its members decides to tell the truth.
You can always count on them to provide a knee jerk reaction calling the individual disgruntled, unpatriotic, not the fella I knew, misled by the Eastern liberals. They're actually so funny it's hard to stop laughing at how consistently they react, whether it's Rove or Dana or Cheney or Rice or a right-wing pundit or one of the other clowns who have been misleading the country for years now. Someone said it, you know when they've been uncovered (once again) for their lies, stupidity and chicanery, when they react so consistently.
Let's all laugh them out of office for all time because they're so stupidly funny.
GaMeOfLiFe --A Hussein Saved My Life @ 28:
How about Wicked, Cruel, Nasty, Bad
MN USA @ 21:
let's not pretend scotty has a conscience. he's getting money for this, which is all you can expect from republican slime.
CoIntelPro for Democratic Party Victory @ 40:
Yeah, then MSNBC or CNN will hire him.
hello @ 33:
Ummm, maybe because his conscience is getting to him and he's decided to sing a little? Not the whole song, but the beginning...?
The question for me is this: Who will be brave enough to whistle-blow the middle, the end, and the HALLELUJAH CHORUS!!!! (Impeach, Indict, Imprison)??
Sybil Edmonds tried, and they shut her up....
Next?
McClellan is a greased pig in this interview. When asked the question about any regrets over the dead in Iraq, he turns it into a fucking phot-op.
And I thought the subtext in KO's question, “Were the critics in the media largely right,” was whether McClellan knew , in day-to-day press briefings, that he was lying to the press. McClellan answered with something like, "After a lot of reflection....".
I'm not saying Scooter is lying now, but I've got a feeling he knew a lot more than he's admitting.
Yup but instead these people ended up being called names like “unpatriotic” or “freedom haters”, when all along they should have been called “the voice of reason”.
Hell of a thing to be vindicated for but I still feel vindicated. I've been called those things in the past by neoconservative elitists that I am forced to work with. I feel like Randy Quaid in "Independence Day", only I haven't been drunk for 8 years. I now tell those assholes that their voter registrations should be suspended for the next two elections, or until felons regain the right to vote. All they can do is respond with some gibberish about suicide bombers.
"Some" of the people at Fox News were allies? Which one wasn't then and isn't now?
So we are to believe Mr. Toad thought Dubya was going to come to town and be this reach across the isle kind of guy that would change Washington for the better. Like he did in Texas? Ummm.......horseshit! Not buyin' what yer sellin' Scotty. You had a front seat for all the dirty dealing and criminal activity. You knew better than almost anyone what an intellectual lightweight and pathological liar your boss was/is. Every time you were behind that podium you knew you were doing harm to this country, yet the power your position brought was to tempting to deny.
Now, you want to be rewarded for this ninth inning mea culpa with a big book payday? Donate the profits to the people of Iraq whose lives you helped destroy and I may have a small piece of forgiveness in my heart for you. Cash that check and bounce and you are nothing but a piece of shit toad with no redeeming qualities.
getalife @ 41:
soon enough and they announce his hiring as a best-selling author, not an enabler of crooks.
How is it that he knew nothing about the Pentagon's program of propaganda? What was his job title again?
Abbybwood @ 42:
Perhaps this might be a way to open that Sibel Edmonds door. I think what she has to say blows this out of the water. But I doubt even Congress will allow it due to the massive fuckup relating to giving Turkey nukes (and that's only what has surfaced thus far - well that and high level Bushies taking massive amounts of money for said nukes).
Between Plame and what Edmonds knows...the world is fucked.
Live Frankly
harvey korman passed away , guess tim conways next!
We all knew Scott was used tool on the podium, that the White House used his youthful innocence to the fullest to deliver bad news. Now we know he knew it to, I'm glad he came forward.
empy @ 48:
I could see Scott getting handed the talking points and told to go make it happen
MsJoanne @ 49:
no one will do anything of significance.
not the media
not the congress
not the wii/nhl/nba-watching public
it's not just fox,though they are the worst case, but abc, nbc, cbs, cnn, ny times, wash. post, etc. corporatism has destroyed press freedom in the u.s.
VegasRage @ 52:
When even the moving and shaking male hooker community of Washington (Jeff Gannon) hurriedly rushes to defend his president and his administration, then you know that a genuine can of worms have been opened.
All day long we have been bombarded with one pundit after the next telling us this news is nothing new. Nothing to see here. We all knew we were lied into this war. Excuse me, yes WE knew, but not from anything you have ever told us. We knew because of sites like this that would dig into what we were being told. Sites that would expose us to the people who were the dissenting view, that never got a seconds time from the corporate media. They act as if they were on the cusp of exposing these lies when they were fighting the exposure at every turn. They were the ones calling us unpatriotic conspiracy theorists. They were the ones devoting hundreds of hours of coverage to Anna Nicole and missing white girls and false terrorist threats and zero coverage of the fuckups happening right under their nose. Nothing to see here but the fact that you failed to do your job.
really folks havent you beaten this shit into the ground yet?how fucking much more can you say about the same old subject, lets get back to doing the obama rama dig ling!
empy @ 56:
No... they did their job, is the real truth of the matter.
And each of those schmucks were paid very handsomely for their services rendered, you can believe it..
Journalist Jason Leopold reported this information over a year and a half ago. But the Media reported him a liar and even called him all kinds of names. But the last laugh is on the Washington Post, CNN Firedoglake,and all the Media Stations as Jason was right and Scotty proved it. The same people will have eggs on their faces when the news finally comes out that Karl Rove was indicted as Jason said but his case was Sealed by the court. People will believe lies before the truth. Only a Grand Jury can indict a person not a Prosecutor. As Rove had made 4 trips to the Grand Jury, then his attorney learned a lady spoke to Fitz and the factual information contradicted what Rove testified to. In other words he lied under oath. Quickly the lawyer asked to have Rove speak again to the Grand Jury. You got it folks Karl was indicted and Jason reported that information because it's PUBLIC RECORD.
empy @ 56:
According to Glenn Greenwald, it's not the media's job, mon. From the article:
Fuck you, fourth estate. You're dead and buried. And you wonder why blogs rule the news world now?
unpatriotic and free-haters is
what all reichwingneocons working
for a fascist dictator (like bush/cheney)
call the "real patriots" of freedom and democracy.
I always knew we were right...
And Simple Scotty is only finally admitting that the Ice Burg is there... His eyes tell us he also knows how huge it is.. he just wont say that, because him saying anymore...keeps the lid on the crimes against humanity that have been slathered upon us for a few more moments..
So he needs to be arrested... and convinced to make a plea deal with Scotty to be states witness... and he will only get 5 years hard labor...
This should be treated as a trial case.. not a media event...
Gee, Fox News is allied with the White House. What a revelation, Scott, I mean, I never would have figured that out from the fact that Tony Snow got your job.
Ruthless People @ 1:
Unfortunately, we are still waiting for the President to be caught red handed doing cocaine. Bush and Company should be hanged. No, I'm being totally serious.
CoIntelPro for Democratic Party Victory @ 37:
Jesus, lay off McClellan. He has confirmed what many people suspected. This is good! This is proof from an insider that the stuff liberals have been bitching about is true! And yet some of you halfwits want to throw him under the bus. Yay! Let's all help the conservatives soil the reputation of a guy who provides evidence that we were actually right!
Fucking morons. The conservative game plan when someone has the courage to speak the truth is to engage in character assassination and to avoid all discussion of fact. Why? Because when the facts are lined up against you, the only path you have to victory is to so muddy the waters that no one can make any sense of it. You saw that tactic with the Plame case. You saw that tactic with the DoJ scandal. I see no reason why we need to play along with that game plan.
And if any of you can prove that people died because he himself lied, then come forward with the evidence. Otherwise, cut the self-serving hyperbole. McClellan was the mouthpiece of the president, and anyone with two molecules of savvy to rub together would expect him to say exactly what the administration wanted him to say. That was the nature of his job and I don't hold it against him.
The media, on the other hand, are supposed act on our behalf and should have taken anything Bush said, through McClellan, with a healthy dose of cynicism. Too often they refused to do so.
Dear god, McClellan has handed us a hammer to use against the Republicans and some of you want to turn around and start hitting him with it.
Geno in Ptown @ 64:
Bush was never a guy I "wanted to have a beer with," let alone do blow with, even if he brought it.
The Dots Are Connected
Murder is the deliberate taking of someones life. The charge has degrees. First degree implies forethought of the crime. Hearing Scott McClellan say we were mislead to the threat Sadamm had WMDs is unacceptable. It means this president must be charged with murder on genocide in the first degree.
In the video, we know where Keith Olbermann was going with his questions about the war. He is leaving the conclusion to it only possible interpretation. We now have enough connected dots to make a picture of what this president did to bring us into this war. This is fact not opinion.
If this were you or I, we would burned to a stake for one murder resulting from lies or manipulation of facts. I can't get over the fact that many have died as a direct result of what this president did to go to war. How much more proof to we need?
If we don't bring this president and some of his Generals to trial, the world will make a mockery of us every time we site human rights incidents concerning other countries. What has this president did to this nation? I shiver to think.
Joseph
hello @ 55:
LOL! Right you are, I don't think history is going be nearly as kind as George hopes it will be.
Go Figure
Bill Clinton screwed his intern. George Bush screwed the world. Impeach Bush and his VP.
Joseph
Jackie @ 59:
Yes Jason got this one right, and should recieve his due. But his reputation went south when he also reported that Karl Rove was going to be indicted in the Plamegate affair.
Gretchen @ 11:
Two things:
1) I want to hear it from actual White House reporters. Reporters who covered the president and his staff, like the one from CNN last night. When *they* start saying they were leaned on to change their stories, we'll know it's being discussed openly.
2) All this talk about McClellan and his book makes me appreciate one person in particular: Helen Thomas. She deserves a medal for never caving to Bush's press secretaries, always asking them pertinent questions, and calling bullshit when they've given her bullshit answers. This latest episode reminds us that she's a national treasure.
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[Sorry Joseph. You were caught in the spam filter. I think I got it fixed-Sitemonitor]
I and seeing lots of yelling in this thread about how everyone has lied. Indeed they have lied, we all know it, but bitching hasn't accomplished a lot. So who is organizing the million man march?
Nothing will change until lobbyists are gone and the media is forced to have elements of intigrety.
Thank You for the quick response.
Joseph
isn't anybody else wondering what the White House is trying to slip by you... just out of your line of vision??
Scotty comes off better when he's not having to shill for the Bush Administration.
The Countdown repeat is about to replay for Eastern (2am) and Central (1am).
McCellan is still sipping the koolaide. Hey why not simply state Bush lied???? The Bugliosi book is more relevant. Bush is a murderer.
And to think of the millions of americans that still defend Bush and believe this shit, it boggles the mind ........ are you lot ever going to join with the real world ?
Steve E @ 7:
I'm not sure if I would rather be waterboarded or have to be the town liar for chimpy/dick inc. Having to be close to and support such pure unmitigated evil has to be a tourture worse than most of us can imagine. Scotty, even though he is coming clean, has to go to sleep at night and wake up every morning with the thought that HE was a tool in the murder of 1 million people. He supported people who did nothing while fellow americans floated face down in the streats of New Orleans. The fact that he will make a ton of cash off his book sales and interviews, doesn't do anything to make me think he is any less guilty now than then.
Here's the biggest point about this whole story. Scotty isn't saying anything we didn't already know. There is nothing in this book that is news to those of us who have been paying attention to the facts over the last 8 years. There isn't anything wild, crazy or otherwise unsupported by other people's accounts of the events. So when the reich wing apologists tell you Scotty is off his rocker and not to be trusted, they are telling you to ignore yet one more person who has exposed what we already knew to be the truth. How Nixonian of them. If we had a proper congress, that performed constitutionally required oversight, and actually executed their job as an equal part of government, all the presidents men would have to swear an oath and testify about these crimes. Thanks to the '06 Dems. for making sure that will never happen.
He must be trying to prep the 'facts' for when it's his turn to go on trial for this fiasco.
I am now starting to feel a little sorry for Scott McClellan. He is thinking about all of the things he has heard and seen that he knew was wrong but just had to come to terms that his hero is not a hero at all. For Scott McClellan it cannot be about the money because I am sure the GOP would have taken care of him money wise as long as he kept his mouth shut. I think Scott McClellan has a conscience problem and the book is the one way to redeem himself in his eyes.
Err, just a little point but what's that 'Countdown Exclusive' bug at the top left hand corner of the screen?
Didn't KO have a go at Billo for saying his interview with Hillo was an exclusive?
Was this interview before or after Scottie's 'exclusive' appearance on The Today Show?
Most of the media and especially the television media, will always have the blood of the Iraq war on their hands no matter how much they try to whitewash it off.
All that is required now is for Colin Powell to come clean about what he knows and this would be the final nail in Bush Administration coffin! Lets pray that Colin Powell do the right thing.
I kept waiting for Keith to ask him about the Gannon/Guckert caper. Is there any mention of that episode in Scott's book?
Reverend Richie @ 85:
If he won't, subpeona him. Frog march he and Rove together. This is bigger than Bush regime loyalty. It's about countless lives lost, trillions of our tax dollars squandered and our moral standing in the world trashed.
RobertD @ 71:
RE: Helen Thomas
She deserves a medal .
“Were the critics in the media largely right(?)”
Right as in correct, or right in terms of poitics?
Andy @ 83:
KO is not quite the same anymore. He's turned or is on his way to turning into a Billo or Limbaugh. I know I'll get attacked for saying this, But I believe it to be true. Different points of view, same technique.
Check out the video by Leonard Cohen "Everybody Knows" at youtube!
Scottie's account is just like Ellen telling us she is a lesbian. Duh!!!!!
McClellan makes one yearn for those dear old days when a man confronted with his own shame and degradation locked himself in a dark room and blew his brains out. Alas, these days it just means a book contract and TV interviews.
Ruthless People @ 87:
Excellent points and all very doable. If Powell spits out the truth its all over but the crying. Then we will see who has a real spine. If the politicians and lawmakers don`t show any then it is imperative for the citizens to gather en masse and head to streets and the capital and demand common justice on criminal charges. Fuck the Supreme Court. If they mobilize Blackwater then you know why the American people have the right to bear arms.
93 Scott Says: Scottie’s account is just like Ellen telling us she is a lesbian. Duh!!!!!
I would say it's more like Patty Bouvier coming out.
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