Office of Special Plans, his successor Jay Rockefeller today concluded:

"The president and his advisers undertook a relentless public campaign in the aftermath of the attacks to use the war against Al Qaeda as a justification for overthrowing Saddam Hussein."

While Democratic and Republican committee members battle it out over the implications of the Phase 2 report, Pat Roberts' role in obstructing the investigation of the Bush administration's uses - and misuses - of intelligence in the run-up to the invasion of Iraq is beyond dispute. Read on...

The world knew the Bush administration was lying all along, but it's good to finally have a definitive record. Senator Pat "Memory Pills" Roberts did his level best to run interference for George Bush and unfortunately for him, he hitched his wagon to a falling star. Roberts was considered vulnerable in his home state of Kansas before the release of this report, and in a year of change and the demise of the GOP, this isn't going to help. This doesn't bode well for Senator John McCain either. He's staked his whole candidacy on the failed Iraq debacle and he, along with the rest of the Republican candidates, will find it difficult to separate themselves from the disaster they helped to create.

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ah, it's so nice to see fellow dems get off the slam Hillary Clinton bandwagon and get back to bashing Bush the war criminal, geezuz keerist on crutches

Second Intelligence missing an "N" in title

[Thanks. I let the spelling correctors know-Sitemonitor]

i wish the other half would pay attention.......i'm talking republicians

Oil, contracts for Haliburton and other cronies. ...maybe they won't notice.

McCain continues to repeat Bush lies. There is no difference between Bush and McCain.

Nobody died when Clinton lied.

Impeach.
Indict.
Imprision.

Cage the chimp.

The first and second charges of the Nuremberg War Crimes Trials were these:

Indictments

Count One: Conspiracy to Wage Aggressive War
This count helped address the crimes committed before the war began, showing a plan to commit crimes during the war.

Count Two: Waging Aggressive War, or "Crimes Against Peace"

Including “the planning, preparation, initiation, and waging of wars of aggression, which were also wars in violation of international treaties, agreements, and assurances.”

BushCo committed aggressive war.

Bush must stand trial.

OK, Pelosi, can we impeach him NOW????? Jesus Christ, Congress, just how much more must this guy get away with before you get some balls and fulfill your DUTY???

Look . . . we KNOW the fuckers lied. We've known it for YEARS. We know they continue to lie. But what is the real crime here? The real crime is that the Democrats do absolutely NOTHING about it. There are just some times when people do something so bad that you have to stand up regardless of the consequences. this is one of those times and all pelosi did was crawl under the table. The Dems are worse for letting this go on and on and on and on and on. The are accessories after the fact . . . and in law that makes you just as guilty as the principle

Unbelieveable that these criminals will get off scott free and that there will be NO accountability , if this was any other country but the high and mighty USA Bush and company would be facing execution and rightly so .

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I'll catch news about this from the unbiased PBS - McNeill/Lehrer Report where they honestly report the news

[It hasn't been 'McNeil/Lehrer' since 1995, when Robin (Robert) McNeil left the show. I guess you don't get a chance to watch that often-Sitemonitor]

No Way! Get the Fuck OUT! I'm Shocked! SHOCKED!!! I tell ya. I never saw THAT one coming.

Shit. If you can't trust your government, who can you trust.

Would somebody please give this man a blowjob so he can be impeached?

Can Pat Roberts be indicted for obstruction of justice? Maybe throw him in the jail in the basement of Congress to keep KKKarl Rove company?

I'm currently reading Vincent Bugliosi's new book. His case for trying Bushco for murder and war crimes is very compelling. I shope Keith has Bugliosi as a guest soon.

Matt in Texas @ 9:

OK, Pelosi, can we impeach him NOW????? Jesus Christ, Congress, just how much more must this guy get away with before you get some balls and fulfill your DUTY???

i'm with you more than you know........but let's get a democrat in office and watch for more confessions to come out

Surprise, Surprise, Surprise

Hey Pelosi, that's a nice bowl of peaches you put on the table but that's not what we're demanding.

Bush was lying during he 2000 debates.

L.A. Confidential @ 20:

Bush was lying during he 2000 debates.

"I'm going to have a humble foreign policy"

Right!

Thank you for publishing this. The story has gone virtually unnoticed or unreported in the media. Bush is caught outright lying and it is just another day.

L.A. Confidential @ 21:

L.A. Confidential @ 20:

Bush was lying during he 2000 debates.

"I'm going to have a humble foreign policy"

Right!

It was these same debates Bush said "his would not be a nation building administration" and that he was "going to bring dignity and integrity back to the oval office".

The only thing he brought was debt, deception, death and destruction.

this makes iraq look like mass murder.

wasnt Ron Paul the lone voice that voted against the war , just saying .

L.A. Confidential @ 21:

L.A. Confidential @ 20:

Bush was lying during he 2000 debates.

"I'm going to have a humble foreign policy"

Right!

It's good to know that, after all this divisive Clinton/Obama mishigas, we can still all get together and hate us some Bush! :)

First unprovoked war? I guess the Gulf of Tonkin incident really never happened after all.

I hope that Pat Roberts gets a challenger soon...

David N @ 25:

wasnt Ron Paul the lone voice that voted against the war , just saying .

156 congressmen and 23 senators voted against the war, but thanks for playing.

It's great to see this stuff coming out now. Perfect timing ... makes me very hopeful. Keep peeling back the layers of this mouldy onion and maybe we'll reach the rotten core just before people cast their ballots.

slightly o.t., but the guy you want handling the monumental task of going after these scumbags as attorney general isn't john edwards, it's pat fitzgerald. remember, an a.g. needs to be a sharp prosecutor, and fitz is the only man alive to get a conviction vs. a bush crony.

edwards ought to be vp.

The Repubs are so bankrupt! Why on earth should anyone in their right mind vote for them. And there aren't enough CEOs to win them any elections. Frankly anyone complicit with this outrage should be forced from ever holding any office again. They they should spend the rest of their lives paying penance to the brave young men and women who lost their lives and were mutilated by their mistake and subsequent cover-up.

It'll be interesting to see which one of the Bush criminals is next to jump ship and tell all. Pretty soon Georgie won't have anyone left to catapault the propaganda for war on Iran.

In 2009, Bush is going to come out with a book explaining that his presidency was an elaborate piece of conceptual art.

SO impeachment is off the table, f you Pelosi

Old news. So many people have known this. But where do these revelations get us? Nowhere. No one in this Administration has been touched, and I doubt they ever will be.

I'm waiting to see who is on the list for the presidential pardons in January. That could get mighty interesting.

As Frank Costanza would say, "Serenity Now!"

It's a shame that Bush couldn't have studied a little history before assuming office. Whatever happened to Teddy Roosevelt's admonition to :"Talk softly and carry a big stick". The modern Bush paradigm seems to be: "Don't talk except to lie and hit everything in sight."

So here's Rockefeller saying what anyone with half a brain already knew. The intelligent far preceded the intelligence in figuring the obvious out. So, the question is, Rockefeller.. why are you still trying to roll over on the retroactive telecom immunity issue? Why do ANY of these democrats give an inch to this bastard administration, knowing what they're capable of? It's revolting. Totally revolting. We need to be revolting.

Thank you, Keith Olbermann, for calling a lie a lie. It's amazing how many euphemisms the media can come up with to avoid using the word lie.

I know you're a smart guy, Keith, but seriously, "First unprovoked war in United States history"? Are there fumes in the studio at MSNBC, or is your producer just afraid to correct you?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_wars

impeach, convict then its off to the world court for war crimes and [Deleted-Sitemonitor]

sas @ 12:

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I'll catch news about this from the unbiased PBS - McNeill/Lehrer Report where they honestly report the news

[It hasn't been 'McNeil/Lehrer' since 1995, when Robin (Robert) McNeil left the show. I guess you don't get a chance to watch that often-Sitemonitor]

fyi sas - applebee's doesn't have a salad bar.

Imagine my shock!

Let's get to the bottom of it all. No fear. Wherever the evidence leads go.

I did not need any politicians to tell me that the Bush Administrations were liars. I was against the invasion in Iraq for the real reason: We had given Saddam those weapons to fight the Iranian who had replaced an American favorite The Shah.
He was a bad leader, but he was ours and had to be retained at all cost. I have seen that Reagan contact Iran before the election to make sure that they would not deal with Jimmy Carter who was the president for re-election. Any one who remembered the 80’s, Reagan’s era has good time should have their head exam. They were the worst.
The joke in Europe was; where I grow up, that South America was changing leader every year! But I learned that if they did not play ball with our policies, their leaders would be eliminated. See the book about an Economic Hit Man. (Democracy Now)
I am for all participant of the Bush administration to be indicted for war crime against humanity.

I sure hope the populace won't be satisfied when the masters tell them what they already knew. Let's commit to dig deeper and bring about the real charges these a-holes are guilty of. It started with Election Fraud in 2000. Followed by fake terrorism and false flag events. Ultimately led to lying us into war. Don't be satisfied with half the story. By the way, in the meantime, our Constitutional rights have all been signed away. There given to us out of convenience, but they are no longer guaranteed us.

Still waiting for this story to appear on the Fox News or Drudge web sites.

The only shocking part of this report is that we had to wait until now to hear it in the Corporate Media.

After:

1.2 million Iraqi deaths & the complete destruction of their infrastructure;

4100 US military deaths, countless maimed, families pain;

trillions plundered from the US Treasury, domestic economy shredded;

illegal detentions, torture, kangaroo courts;

etc .. etc .. etc

Believe it or not, even at a snails pace, this begins to set the stage for impeachment. By establishing the series of offenses, including lying to congress, abuse of power, treason, etc. whether or not peloser has the nads, this process, snails pace and all, can lead to impeachment of every member of the WH involved and all complicit staff(Liibby?), Tenet, Powell, Rice, et al, and possibly members of the press who knowingly foisted these lies when there was no evidence for the stories they committed their enterprises to print and publish.
If no indictments for the press, then they should certainly be made to testify as to the lies they were told by the WH. I can see russert, judy miller, wolf blitzer and the rest at the mike, explaining to America why they LIED!

not stupid @ 48:

I did not need any politicians to tell me that the Bush Administrations were liars. ....

true. but by the constitution, the politicians are the ones to clean this up.

oh if they only would have called me I could have told them it was all a lie to have a war for profits. nationalism and patriotism and revenge can overwhelm the rational mind.

but Americans wanted to kick some butts Muslim butts any Muslim behind for 9/11.

now they pay the price for their desire for their Texas style shoot them first bully mentality but yet they blame their politicians rather than look into a mirror.

America the super power is about to get its ass kicked again like it did in Vietnam. if a country does not learn its lesson the first time karma brings the opportunity to learn right back to ya.

Americans did not ask for forgiveness for the one million Vietnamese they killed in that illegal war so they continue to suffer with treasure and deaths and inner chaos from this latest illegal war.

but hey life is easy kind of if you live in denial. wake up Americans you need to change more than just your politicians.

once you Americans understand that you are a country of wars for profits maybe just maybe you will move beyond blame and accept responsibility for your war mongering and the tremendous suffering you have caused in the world.

it will happen like it did in germany and japan karma demands it.

Matt in Texas @ 9:

OK, Pelosi, can we impeach him NOW????? Jesus Christ, Congress, just how much more must this guy get away with before you get some balls and fulfill your DUTY???

OK, it's a little hard to know exactly what Bush would have to do in order to get impeached. If this doesn't rise to the level of an impeachable offense, does that mean the only way to get impeached is to lie about a blow job? Seriously folks, what kind of message is sent by the fact that Clinton underwent impeachment hearings and Bush has not faced any serious hearings at all? This situation is a complete miscarriage of justice, a complete abrogation of the responsibility of Congress, an intolerable shame to all Americans, a statement of the lack of any ethical foundation or legitimacy for the actions of the nation.

I think it's time to oust 'em all. The '06 lot of democrats for the most part are all horseshit pussies.
Nancy and Harry are worthless! Screw holding their feet to the fire, I say grab em by the ankle and toss em into the fire!
Impaeach em all and hold them accountable down to the last fucking enabler!
Maybe it's time for the electorate to raise some hell and purge these fuckers in order to send a message to the future leaders.
You were elected to serve the public and defend the constitution. Now do your fucking job.
IMPEACH!!!

To the poster directly above me....I have thought about this often. I can't help but wonder if the whole "impeach Bill" wasn't just an attemp to trivialize and "dirty up" the impeachment process. This made the general populace very hesitant to call for impeachmentit and congress scared shitless to implement it. After all, certainly they already knew the dirt on Bill, they began investigating him the moment he entered the race if not before. So, maybe they knew there was nothing there, but they weakened impeachment as a process. Maybe THAT was the real goal.

OK tinfoil hat off, maybe.......

tr @ 24:

this makes iraq look like mass murder.

It does look that way. If your wife or daughter or son or mother, was killed by "shock and awe" how would you feel? But it's nothing personal. They just want your oil.

Let the War Crimes Tribunals commence!

John @ 11:

Unbelieveable that these criminals will get off scott free and that there will be NO accountability , if this was any other country but the high and mighty USA Bush and company would be facing execution and rightly so .

Extremely well said. I would also add that what Congress and the Democrats have also ignored are the Downing Street Minutes, which revealed that the U.S. was hell bent on going to war against Iraq in the summer of 2002. That alone should have been grounds for impeachment but still Congress and the Democrats failed to act. It is now wonder that people, turned off by the ineptness of the Democrats, are turning to a third party in 2008.

Let's all vote for McBush!!! Yeah right!!! Every day he makes a screw-up!!!

I wish we could impeach them all. But it is up the all of us to get rit of all old repugs in congress, to tell them that they will not again be able to get new law made by the Pharma, energy CO!
Lets get all republicans out

We've known about this for 5+ years now and no one does anything about it.

Bush sucks; he has nothing but contempt for Congress; his Administration is filled with liars and criminals; they lied about the war; they fired judges for political reasons; they deliberately leaked Valerie Plames name; the list goes on and on and on..............and I ask; so what? No one is going to do anything about it, except maybe pound on a desk and point their finger.

We just have to put up with him for 6 more months, and we can then send him off to Crawford and close the book on this sad chapter of our history.

If there is a bright side, we can use his Administration as the excuse for anything that goes wrong over the next 10 years!

calgarylady @ 30:

It's great to see this stuff coming out now. Perfect timing ... makes me very hopeful. Keep peeling back the layers of this mouldy onion and maybe we'll reach the rotten core just before people cast their ballots.

Which is probably one of the real reasons Pelosi uttered her famous words about taking impeachment off the table. Keep Bush in office and then begin to pull all of this out as we get closer to the 2008 elections. All of this will pile up and it will be hard for all except the most fervent 25%'ers to ignore.

I disagree with Ms. Pelosi though because the only way this country can begin to function again is if these criminals are either impeached or put to trial. There is no way they can get away with all they've done and just walk away with all the loot. Hell there are people sitting in jail that have done just 1% of what these people have done and Bush and his gang just walk away with only a tarnished legacy? Hundreds of millions of dollars and just a tarnished legacy, if it weren't for the millions dead I'd say sign me up but then again I have a consious and at least one honest bone in my body.

With all that is now confirmed (we all knew it before, confirmed is another thing altogether) impeachment isn't enough. A lot of people need to go to prison and for a very long time.

One last thing, it's time we stop saying that BushCo didn't tell the truth especially you Senator Rockefeller. Bush LIED and it needs to be said. LIED gives a much stronger jolt to the brain and if we begin to use we might actually begin to get through to people. The president of this country LIED to take us to war. A war that has cost up billions of dollars, over 4000 military lives, 10's of thousand military members who are physically and mentally crippled, and millions of Iraqi's dead and misplaced. This country has committed genocide on a country over LIES told by its president and senior government officials.

Yes, George Bush is a LIER and it needs to be said loudly and repeated as often as necessary until everyone understands it. It needs to be repeated and it needs to be linked as often as possible to John McCain so he can quietly in to the night with nary a whimper.

....[It hasn't been 'McNeil/Lehrer' since 1995, when Robin (Robert) McNeil left the show. I guess you don't get a chance to watch that often-Sitemonitor]

I can't be positive, but I seem to remember the opening backdrop to the News Hour still stating McNeil/Lehrer up until very recently. I'd always thought it was a class A move by Jim Lehrer to keep it. Also, unless I'm mistaken, I think the News Hour is still produced by a McNeil/Lehrer joint production company.

[The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer-Sitemonitor]

lipstickhottie @ 57:

To the poster directly above me....I have thought about this often. I can't help but wonder if the whole "impeach Bill" wasn't just an attemp to trivialize and "dirty up" the impeachment process. This made the general populace very hesitant to call for impeachmentit and congress scared shitless to implement it. After all, certainly they already knew the dirt on Bill, they began investigating him the moment he entered the race if not before. So, maybe they knew there was nothing there, but they weakened impeachment as a process. Maybe THAT was the real goal.

OK tinfoil hat off, maybe.......

You know I used to rarely put any stock in conspiracy theories until this gang came to power. After what they've pulled I put nothing past them either in the past, the present, or the future. I won't be one bit surprised if they attack Iran or create some kind of problem that they have to inact martial law and suspend the elections. If you would say I would think this even just a year ago I would have said you were crazy but not anymore.

I don't trust any of them as far as I could throw them so pass me a tinfoil hat as well. It's going to be a long 6 months until they're hopefully gone.

fiver @ 65:

....[It hasn't been 'McNeil/Lehrer' since 1995, when Robin (Robert) McNeil left the show. I guess you don't get a chance to watch that often-Sitemonitor]

I can't be positive, but I seem to remember the opening backdrop to the News Hour still stating McNeil/Lehrer up until very recently. I'd always thought it was a class A move by Jim Lehrer to keep it. Also, unless I'm mistaken, I think the News Hour is still produced by a McNeil/Lehrer joint production company.

[The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer-Sitemonitor]

Thanx. It confirms the joint production company (no ysbadadden, that isn't what they produce), but the backdrop is still bugging me. I'll look some more.

Someone usually comes along right about now to remind us of this:

The House of Representatives votes to impeach, and the Senate holds the trial. Conviction requires a 2/3 majority, which the Dems don't have. Imagine the fun we'd have if we actually got around to the discovery phase, and the Senate called witnesses, and all manner of lies and indiscretions came to light. Everything--the stolen elections, the media complicity, the no-bid contracts--it was all exposed on C-Span, and the nightly news. "Good God!" we'd scream, "These people are criminals!"

Then they'd vote, and fall short of the 2/3 majority. And the media would say "They must be innocent, if they were found not guilty..."

I say it's much more effective (for the time being) to vote the scoundrels out. We'll get it sorted out eventually, and maybe we'll even see Bush stand trial at the Hague.

Tommy Hussein @ 68:

Someone usually comes along right about now to remind us of this:

The House of Representatives votes to impeach, and the Senate holds the trial. Conviction requires a 2/3 majority, which the Dems don't have. Imagine the fun we'd have if we actually got around to the discovery phase, and the Senate called witnesses, and all manner of lies and indiscretions came to light. Everything--the stolen elections, the media complicity, the no-bid contracts--it was all exposed on C-Span, and the nightly news. "Good God!" we'd scream, "These people are criminals!"

Then they'd vote, and fall short of the 2/3 majority. And the media would say "They must be innocent, if they were found not guilty..."

I say it's much more effective (for the time being) to vote the scoundrels out. We'll get it sorted out eventually, and maybe we'll even see Bush stand trial at the Hague.

Not to mention there's no way in hell they'd get this done before Chimpy leaves office anyway.

Tommy Hussein @ 68:

Someone usually comes along right about now to remind us of this:

The House of Representatives votes to impeach, and the Senate holds the trial. Conviction requires a 2/3 majority, which the Dems don't have. Imagine the fun we'd have if we actually got around to the discovery phase, and the Senate called witnesses, and all manner of lies and indiscretions came to light. Everything--the stolen elections, the media complicity, the no-bid contracts--it was all exposed on C-Span, and the nightly news. "Good God!" we'd scream, "These people are criminals!"

Then they'd vote, and fall short of the 2/3 majority. And the media would say "They must be innocent, if they were found not guilty..."

I say it's much more effective (for the time being) to vote the scoundrels out. We'll get it sorted out eventually, and maybe we'll even see Bush stand trial at the Hague.

Tommy,
We could have been conducting hearings for over a year now. The Republicans are running scared. The Senate picture could look very different now if the Bush criminals hadn't been protected by their Democratic collaborators. Judging from your phrasing (and you're right, it was about time someone mentioned this), I think we agree.

Where I disagree is that "voting them out and then worrying about it later" is a workable solution. I've predicted blanket pardons on Bushes way out, and they seem ever more likely. Of course, all the pardons will be given in the name freedom and protecting the "patriots" from frivolous litigation.

First unprovoked war? After what we now know about vietnam and ww1? common keith, you're losing it man.

yes...we could have been conducting hearings. We could have begun in Jan. '07. But we'd never have gotten a 2/3 majority, and still won't. It's quite likely that Bush and his cronies will never stand trial--in America.

But it's not out of the realm of possibility that we'd turn on the nightly news someday to see Bush de-plane in a foreign country, only to be surrounded by the local militia, and carted off to prison.

And it would be our turn to say "so?"

eyepennies @ 29:

David N @ 25:

wasnt Ron Paul the lone voice that voted against the war , just saying .

156 congressmen and 23 senators voted against the war, but thanks for playing.

I stand corrected thank you

Tommy Hussein @ 72:

yes...we could have been conducting hearings. We could have begun in Jan. '07. But we'd never have gotten a 2/3 majority, and still won't. It's quite likely that Bush and his cronies will never stand trial--in America.

But it's not out of the realm of possibility that we'd turn on the nightly news someday to see Bush de-plane in a foreign country, only to be surrounded by the local militia, and carted off to prison.

And it would be our turn to say "so?"

So, in that case, does the Secret Service turn into an honor guard? Do they surround Bush as he breaks big rocks into little rocks for fifteen years? Well, we can hope.

I never thought I'd even think that of a U.S. president. We've fallen very far.

I never thought I’d even think that of a U.S. president. We’ve fallen very far.

Indeed we have.

Pelosi needs to be impeached so Americans can get on with making justice on the war criminals.

Republicans were able to impeach Clinton with 33% of the country's approval. More than 50% of Americans have wanted to see Bush impeached for quite a while now.

Are the Dems completely impotent? Well, yeah!

I don't wonder how Republicans reconcile Bush lying about the case for war with Iraq. It's easy since they won't believe he lied no matter what evidence is reported to the contrary. If they don't hear it from Rush or Sean, it's just a lie to make George Bush look bad.

Oh, and that thing about Bush being born again makes it impossible for the simps to believe he could ever lie.

Ruthless People @ 14:

Would somebody please give this man a blowjob so he can be impeached?

Like his 'private time' with Jeff Gannon wasn't enough?

The Republicans were able to impeach Clinton in the House of Representatives because they had the votes, regardless of the public opinion polls. They fell short of convicting in the Senate, because they didn't have the votes--barely.

The Republicans would never vote to convict Bush of anything, ever. Impeachment would ultimately fail, and then we'd be really pissed and indignant. Yes, even more so than we are now.

Bush will get his due. Karma is a bitch, and revenge is a dish that's best served cold...

karl @ 17:

Matt in Texas @ 9:

OK, Pelosi, can we impeach him NOW????? Jesus Christ, Congress, just how much more must this guy get away with before you get some balls and fulfill your DUTY???

i'm with you more than you know........but let's get a democrat in office and watch for more confessions to come out

My instincts tell me there will be no accountability. Whatever the reasons--threats, blackmail, deals, double deals, who knows. Pelosi's stand is the clue. This country is doomed.

Ruthless People @ 14:

Would somebody please give this man a blowjob so he can be impeached?

Would that be Oral Roberts job ??

Tommy Hussein @ 79:

The Republicans were able to impeach Clinton in the House of Representatives because they had the votes, regardless of the public opinion polls. They fell short of convicting in the Senate, because they didn't have the votes--barely.

The Republicans would never vote to convict Bush of anything, ever. Impeachment would ultimately fail, and then we'd be really pissed and indignant. Yes, even more so than we are now.

Bush will get his due. Karma is a bitch, and revenge is a dish that's best served cold...

Bush has never received his due. From academic failure at Yale then Harvard, to Arbusto, to the Texas Rangers, to the Governor of Texas, to the Presidency, Bush's life has been one prestigious appointment after another, failing miserably at each one.

Karma may be a bitch, but it may also be a myth. Revenge is certainly best served cold, but I want justice - and justice delayed is justice denied.

If only it was a benign insanity being displayed for the Republicans, I'd feel much safer. But their insanity is a malignant insanity that has gotten over 4,000 of our soldiers killed over in Iraq as well as severely injuring anywhere from 25,000 to 50,000 of our soldiers (I personally believe this figure is much higher). And these casualty numbers don't even count the hundreds of thousands of our loyal and dedicated soldiers who have suffered severe mental distress due to their war experiences in Iraq. Nor do these figures include the dead and injured Iraqis, which some estimate to be well over 1 million while my own estimate is that Bush's unprovoked, unnecessary attack on Iraq has generated 2 to 3 million dead or injured Iraqis, along with 5 million Iraqis being displaced, about half inside Iraq with the other half fleeing Iraq entirely.

And rubber-stamp Republicans like Roberts keep defending the malignant insanity of the Bush administration, going so far as to try to hide how lying, deceitful and insane the Bush administration really is.

And then there are the malignantly insane Republicans on the intelligence committee who refute the findings of the full committee that the Bush administration intentionally lied us into a war in Iraq...which actually begs the question: why are some Republicans with so little intelligence and so meager morality doing on an intelligence committee in the first place? Ship them all to GITMO for their war crimes.

By waiting until election season, the Dems have opened themselves up to accusations of election year posturing. Why wasn't this done immediately after the 2006 elections? We know why -- because they see this as a way to damage the Republican party, rather than fact-finding.

BushCo belongs behind bars -- yet Rockefeller said he was not supporting criminal investigations. Why? Oh, because there is too much else to do in the Senate, and such an investigation would take up too much of their schedule. SO F'N WHAT?! 4000 of our finest young men and women are dead. Perhaps as many as a million Iraqis are dead. If Bush is criminally culpable, then who the hell cares about other legislative business? This is far more important than ANYTHING else they have on their slate.

Tommy Hussein @ 68:

We'll get it sorted out eventually, and maybe we'll even see Bush stand trial at the Hague.

Remember when Bush was petitioning all sorts of countries to provide immunity from war crimes prosecutions? Do you know how many of them agreed to it?

I happen to be an atheist, but I wish there were a God out there somewhere who would send Bush and his criminal gang straight to hell where they belong.

Casus B-Lie...

mystic @ 80:

karl @ 17:

Matt in Texas @ 9:

OK, Pelosi, can we impeach him NOW????? Jesus Christ, Congress, just how much more must this guy get away with before you get some balls and fulfill your DUTY???

i'm with you more than you know........but let's get a democrat in office and watch for more confessions to come out

My instincts tell me there will be no accountability. Whatever the reasons--threats, blackmail, deals, double deals, who knows. Pelosi's stand is the clue. This country is doomed.

Too many of the do nothing people are owners of the MIC companies through their stocks and shareholdings,
to put it bluntly they profit from endless war, plus the various lobbyist cash going into PACs etc.
Some of them might feel a tad guilty but they still pocket the dividends, and mouth platitudes to appease voters,
theres only a handful of committed honest Congresscritters that actually are pushing for impeachment and justice.

again thank goodness for keith olberman being in a position to
put this truth so succinctly in a nationally broadcasted manner.
fuck bush and mccain to hell, eternally.

Tommy Hussein @ 79:

The Republicans were able to impeach Clinton in the House of Representatives because they had the votes, regardless of the public opinion polls. They fell short of convicting in the Senate, because they didn't have the votes--barely.

The Republicans would never vote to convict Bush of anything, ever. Impeachment would ultimately fail, and then we'd be really pissed and indignant. Yes, even more so than we are now.

Bush will get his due. Karma is a bitch, and revenge is a dish that's best served cold...

But what do the Wingnuts use to describe and run down Bill Clinton, their version of his legacy, his BJ in the oval office etc,
no matter that his impeachment came to almost nothing.

The mere fact that they slung mud and a fraction stuck was and is enough for them to crow for decades, and compliant RW historians / liars will approve this message.

This is the critical reason that Chimpy / Cheney and the top echelon of the Bushco org crime family needs to be impeached / indicted,
even if they drag it out and evade any serious penalties for their crimes, it gets recorded in the history books as fact.
The current public displeasure and minor junk with the 100s of officials resigning and some being pardoned and will be forgotten as just 'politics as usual'.

From the small acorn of impeachment, the forest of Republican crimes / lies will tumble like rotten fruit.

ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 89:

From the small acorn of impeachment, the forest of Republican crimes / lies will tumble like rotten fruit.

and thus is the reason that some of the so called Democrats oppose impeachment, they are covering up for their fellow MIC buddies.

Matt in Texas @ 9:

OK, Pelosi, can we impeach him NOW????? Jesus Christ, Congress, just how much more must this guy get away with before you get some balls and fulfill your DUTY???

I usually don't " go on and on" about this, but remind me WHY IMPEACHMENT IS OFF THE TABLE.

Oh, I see, all those Senators are liars?????

Ruthless People @ 14:

Would somebody please give this man a blowjob so he can be impeached?

McGrandpa too, and save the dress!!!!

L.A. Confidential @ 20:

Bush was lying during he 2000 debates.

Has Bush ever told the truth? Yet he's stayed in the White House all these years, disgracing it and you.

Honestly, I'm at my wit's end with America. WTF??????

tr @ 24:

this makes iraq look like mass murder.

No, IT IS mass murder. A genocide of Muslims.

I 'laugh' every time the USA speaks out on another country's human rights record. The nerve. The hypocrisy. Who can respect anything that comes from the USA?

Ruthless said-"Nobody died when Clinton lied " B.S. go back and tell us all about Madman Albright and the pill factory and the no fly zone bombing?
Billy Goat Clinton DID not only lying about blowjobs,over a million Iraqies and countless Serbs dead on FKN big lies! Be thankfull Hillary is about to get on her jet broom and be gone .

eyepennies @ 29:

David N @ 25:

wasnt Ron Paul the lone voice that voted against the war , just saying .

156 congressmen and 23 senators voted against the war, but thanks for playing.

I think he means of those republicunts running for president?

Gee.....finally an episode of "Really? No ****? News"....

I have an idea...let's impeach PELOSI.

And get a new table so that impeachment can be placed upon it.

Richard Clark said on the same broadcast that the Bush Administration should at least apologize for their lies. There lies led to the deaths of many thousands of innocent victims. They have rigged elections, allowed big business to rape the environment, and steal millions of peoples pensions. They have re-ignited the nuclear arms race, violated the Geneva Convention, tortured and killed people without trial. The list is endless. Somehow a simple "My Bad" is not going to cut it.

The news media is already working to get the Bush Administration off. The biggest mistake the American people made in the last 50 years was let Richard Nixon off for what he did. Our government has gotten more corrupt with each passing administration. Bush and most of his cronies belong in prison. They belong in prison for the rest of there lives for the crimes they have committed while they have been in power.

Okay....so all this is out in the open now. To quote an insensitve, purely evil, irrepressible 'Dick'...Cheney..... SO!? So what! Who's going to do anything about it! Pe-Loser!? That silly twat is still basking in her fame of being the 'First Female Speaker of the House'! Impeachment is OFF the table, ...... remember? Again, I say, so? Who's going to do anything about this? Answer---------- No one! Nothing! Nada! Zip! Not a fucking thing! Bush wins! He and that sorry sack of protoplasm Dick 'I Pwn Your Ass!' Cheney wins!! They KNOW it!! They're laughing their arrogant prissy privileged asses off as we stew here behind our keyboards and vent!! NOTHING will happen! Get it yet!? Nothing! They get off scott-free! Only in America! Land of the Sheeple!

What is so funny is that this just makes the Dumbocrats look even dumber for keeping Impeachment off the table.

Scy @ 10:

Look . . . we KNOW the fuckers lied. We've known it for YEARS. We know they continue to lie. But what is the real crime here? The real crime is that the Democrats do absolutely NOTHING about it. There are just some times when people do something so bad that you have to stand up regardless of the consequences. this is one of those times and all pelosi did was crawl under the table. The Dems are worse for letting this go on and on and on and on and on. The are accessories after the fact . . . and in law that makes you just as guilty as the principle

Don't you see a smoke screen when it's so obvious. The Dems and Repubs are in this together trying to sell us out to the UN...see section G of the Law Of the Sea Treaty (LOST)...you'll lose the righjt to vote ("...the Assembly will appoint...") among the many other rights you will lose under their Brave New World (Bush41-Clinton's New World Order).

Senator John D. Rockefeller

(Democrat, West Virginia) Senate Intelligence Committee
October 10, 2002
Addressing the US Senate

"The global community -- in the form of the United Nations -- has declared repeatedly, through multiple resolutions, that the frightening prospect of a nuclear-armed Saddam cannot come to pass. But the U.N. has been unable to enforce those resolutions. We must eliminate that threat now, before it is too late.

But this isn't just a future threat. Saddam's existing biological and chemical weapons capabilities pose a very real threat to America, now. Saddam has used chemical weapons before, both against Iraq's enemies and against his own people. He is working to develop delivery systems like missiles and unmanned aerial vehicles that could bring these deadly weapons against U.S. forces and U.S. facilities in the Middle East.

Excuse me yes they lied. Surprise, surprise. Now it's documented.

WHAT ARE THE FUCKING CONSEQUENCES FOR BUSH/CHENEY ET AL.????????

letter to Rockefeller:
Incredible.
NOT for the report...the 'incredible' is because it has taken six years for congress to even get the 'report'...which, of course, the Republicans and administration are denouncing as 'partisan' and 'selective' in nature.
For all the collective sheepskins of yours in Congress - you people (for the majority) have shown
NO COMMON SENSE
not to mention, WE who have been fighting you about this administration are still villified as 'conspiracy theorists'.
your.government.LIED. Period.
Meanwhile, people still die.
And just WHAT are you in congress going to do...other than make sure george gets to build a wall larger than the Vietnam Memorial to show his daddy what a 'man' he is.
Pathetic.
beyond pathetic.

tr @ 24:

this makes iraq look like mass murder.

It doesn't look like mass murder, it is mass murder. And with depleted uranium on all of those munitions, we're poisoning them maximally now, and everybody else, later. (DU is highly radioactive, atomizes and is easily carried on the wind.)

Wait 'til the other tin-foil hat conspiracy theory is finally demonstrated to be the truth.

Of course, none of this matters since Nancy Pelosi has got Bushco's back covered six ways to Sunday. Since she is intractably determined to remain derelict in her duty to the Constitution and the American People, all this evidence needs to be forwarded to the International Criminal Court at The Hague for use in eventual war crimes tribunals. If one of Bush's very first acts when coming into office was dropping out of the court, one of Obama's first acts can be dropping back in.

The article discussing this report was on page 7 of my local paper... (South Florida Sun Sentinel)... PAGE 7, for crissakes. This makes Watergate look like shoplifting a pack of gum and nobody gives a shit.

At this point it is willful denial of reality if you believe Bush/Cheney etc didn't lie about this from the start. I wonder who the 27% are that still give Bush favorable ratings? I mean, really. Haven't you wondered? Are these the same kind of people, psychologically of course (authoritarian followers), who would have been down in the bunker in Berlin in 1945?

Last night caught Orrin Hatch, The Great Fulminator, ranting on about how bipartisan the Intelligence committee used to be and how this report was a partisan Dem slam. It's like Pat Roberts never existed and the hatchet job he and his cronies did on Joe Wilson even refusing to let a CIA officer come back to correct the record doesn't count. I don't know how Hatch can keep coming up with this bullshit and live with himself.

Memo to House of Representatives:

Impeach with impunity!
Impeach before it's too late!

Wanna play HARDBALL?
Schedule impeachments hearings to start in October (Teach KKKarl Rove what "October Surprise" could really mean.)

Lets sue Bush and co for the cost of the war.

I've contacted my legislators, have you? I am calling Senator Norm Coleman, Senator Amy Klobuchar, and Rep Keith Ellison hourly today. Please join me in calling your senators and representatives. Demand that these crimes be prosecuted.

By the way, I called Norm Coleman's office this morning to find out that the woman that is answering the phone had not heard of this senate report. Nancy Pelosi, obviously not even in the Senate, already has it posted on her website (of course Pelosi don't even mention the word impeachment or prosecution). Republicans are really hurting to keep up with their own corruption.

We have known this for years-Time and time again, liberals have been proven correct about Bush, his lies, and crimes of this administration.

Of course, do Republicans admit they were wrong about the war? hell no- they now blame the war on the Democrats-and as the dems have been guilty of appeaing bush's crimes, they are partially correct

secretmojo @ 43:

I know you're a smart guy, Keith, but seriously, "First unprovoked war in United States history"? Are there fumes in the studio at MSNBC, or is your producer just afraid to correct you?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_wars

secretmojo would you care to point out which of those wars were "unprovoked", wikipedia doesn't. You might just be embellishing the facts there.

112 The Inceredible Mr Limpett

As in the fish or the naval mine?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_11p4L3wag

The only thing left to be done is to get an orthodox rabbi to conjure up a Golem, send it into the White House to wreck havoc on Bush/Cheney and the neocons.

Gretchen @ 37:

I'm waiting to see who is on the list for the presidential pardons in January. That could get mighty interesting.

Can Bush pardon himself?

"The president and his advisers undertook a relentless public campaign in the aftermath of the attacks to use the war against Al Qaeda as a justification for overthrowing Saddam Hussein.”

Next Up: Senate Intelligence Committee reveals that fire is hot, water is wet.

johnnypunchclock @ 115:

Gretchen @ 37:

I'm waiting to see who is on the list for the presidential pardons in January. That could get mighty interesting.

Can Bush pardon himself?

If push came to shove, my prediction is that he pardons Cheney, then resigns so that Cheney can pardon him.

P.D. @ 38:

As Frank Costanza would say, "Serenity Now!"

And as Lloyd Braun would say, "Insanity later."

Let's start with a massive protest of citizens descending on the capital all of them chanting one word; "IMPEACH!"

If that doesn't do it, then a recall of Pelosi might get the right person in the right place to get things moving.

brantl @ 103:

tr @ 24:

this makes iraq look like mass murder.

It doesn't look like mass murder, it is mass murder. And with depleted uranium on all of those munitions, we're poisoning them maximally now, and everybody else, later. (DU is highly radioactive, atomizes and is easily carried on the wind.)

I dont know if you read about it, but the US is cleaning up the worst of the DU contaminated areas of Iraq,
so if DU is so harmless why are they removing the topsoil for containment and disposal in nuclear dumps in the US.
.

Ben @ 117:

johnnypunchclock @ 115:

Gretchen @ 37:

I'm waiting to see who is on the list for the presidential pardons in January. That could get mighty interesting.

Can Bush pardon himself?

If push came to shove, my prediction is that he pardons Cheney, then resigns so that Cheney can pardon him.

I'm pretty sure that if they file impeachment articles against the two the day after the election and keep them active through Obama's eventual inauguration, they would be unable to issue those pardons; short of some unexplained well-timed national emergency.

Scy @ 10:

Look . . . we KNOW the fuckers lied. We've known it for YEARS. We know they continue to lie. But what is the real crime here? The real crime is that the Democrats do absolutely NOTHING about it. There are just some times when people do something so bad that you have to stand up regardless of the consequences. this is one of those times and all pelosi did was crawl under the table. The Dems are worse for letting this go on and on and on and on and on. The are accessories after the fact . . . and in law that makes you just as guilty as the principle

I don't know if I'd go as far as to say the Dems are more - or even equally - culpable. Still, the writer makes a damn good point. Let's hope that our leaders have learned something from this unbelievable mess.

They didn't just lie. They are guilty of committing treason. So stop with the 'they lied" shit. They should be arrested and tried. If found guilty, hung or shot, we can decide that by a simple show of hands by the jury.

So What!? We have known all along that Bush and Cheney were lying.
Nobody did anything. It's too late to impeach them. And these jackanapes are going to get off totally free after literally destroying an entire nation, murdering tens of thousands of innocent people, causing America to be hated world-wide, ruining our economy, despoiling the environment, stacking the courts and government offices with incompetent cronies, Et Cetera...
And why does the Bush Family want a 99,000 acre ranch in Paraguay guarded by 400 US Marines (at taxpayers expense) who have been PRE-FORGIVEN by the Paraguayan Government for any "war crimes" they might commit? Huh?
The Rats have an Island to go to after they have sunk the Ship.
The JCS should grow some balls, go into the White House NOW and arrest Bush and Cheney for High Treason.

(Sigh)..... Yea yea yea... But the old reliable chorus is already cranking up the refrain.. Nothing impeachable here, no reason to set any tables.... Move along now folks.... The fallback rationale? We're tooooo busy already, this would take up tooooo much time... FUCKALL!!! Gutless, every damned one of them repub and dem... They ALL seem to have enough time to spend giving themselves raises and other perks and they find all the time in the world to send people to die over these lies and deceits but somehow can't carve any time out to make the assholes responsible, held accountable for their CRIMES against the people of America, Iraq and the constitution...

I don't remember which poster it was way back, but they nailed what it all amounts to.. Kabuki theater... And Scy@10 nailed the reason why 'all' the pols on either side continue to sit with their thumbs up their asses and their fingers crossed..... Yep, culpable accomplices after the fact...plain and simple.... Leavenworth is where they ALL need to hold their next congressional committee meeting...in leg irons.....JD

What is Congress waiting for to impeach bush? Does he have to get caught having his dick sucked by a fat intern to finally push those american puritans in Congress to take action against that horrible man ?

What about these guys: should they be prosecuted?

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years .. We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

I think this is one of the most important news stories regarding this country and the war in Iraq in a long time and I just checked 3 mainstream news sites (CNN, MSNBC and Yahoo) and only 1 even lists this report as a news story and it's not even listed in the headlines stories. PATHETIC....what the hell is wrong with the media on this one? Now we have bipartisan support with the report showing what we all knew (at least some of us) for 5 years and it's a hot potatoe. WTF????

These common thugs and their accomplices must be prosecuted....................

Our nation was not only robbed of Billions of Dollars to pay for an illegal WAR perpetuated by these Criminals. It robbed AMERICA blind while they beat the drum of FEAR MONGERING.

Now we learned that they have robbed millions of innocent lives out of GREED.

WE are all being swindled. Rich, poor, black, white, young, old. Economic impact is no longer an isolated incident. The impact is widely felt all over the WORLD.

Millions of innocent people lives has been "obliverated" like a worthless piece of greenback paper.

For what? OIL?

This is insanity and EVIL at an unprecedented proportion.

We have placed these individuals at a pedastal and paid them handsomely; to protect our NATION and our WORLD and promote PEACE.....NOT to used it at their disposal.

WE KNOW NOW .......... that this administration is GUILTY. We know now the CRIMINALS who has high-jacked and kept our government in hostage.

BUT WE ALSO KNOW...........WHO IS ALLOWING these THUGS get away with MURDER....

Nancy Pelosi; Harry Reid; and John Conyers BETTER take NOTE that they TOO ARE NOW being seen as ACCOMPLICE.

When AMERICA DETERMINES that our government is in COUP DE TA........

The AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL AND ALWAYS WILL BE ULTIMATELY THE JUDGE and JURY. AMERICA who are the EMPLOYERS WILL terminate public servants who defy their DUTY.

AMERICA WILL REACH ITS VERDICT sooner than later.

It is foolish for Pelosi; Reid and Conyers to think that they can defy the U.S. Constitution. This is your CONTRACT with the PEOPLE. That CONTRACT HAS BEEN BREACHED..........big time.

Imavehmontah @ 55:

Matt in Texas @ 9:

OK, Pelosi, can we impeach him NOW????? Jesus Christ, Congress, just how much more must this guy get away with before you get some balls and fulfill your DUTY???

OK, it's a little hard to know exactly what Bush would have to do in order to get impeached. If this doesn't rise to the level of an impeachable offense, does that mean the only way to get impeached is to lie about a blow job? Seriously folks, what kind of message is sent by the fact that Clinton underwent impeachment hearings and Bush has not faced any serious hearings at all? This situation is a complete miscarriage of justice, a complete abrogation of the responsibility of Congress, an intolerable shame to all Americans, a statement of the lack of any ethical foundation or legitimacy for the actions of the nation.

I agree completely. Impeachment is the proper response to a constitutional crisis, in this case the myriad of crimes and lies perpetrated by the Bush clan. However, it is so late in the game that instead, I'm hoping some prosecutor(s) will go after these neocons as private citizens in February of 2009. That way Bush won't be able to issue an orgy of pardons for all his butt buddies. Unless McCain is elected.......folks in Florida and Ohio, please watch your Republican crooks down there in November.

And Billo still thinks the discredited Nigerian yellow cake story was real...

solid @ 133:

Imavehmontah @ 55:

Matt in Texas @ 9:

OK, Pelosi, can we impeach him NOW????? Jesus Christ, Congress, just how much more must this guy get away with before you get some balls and fulfill your DUTY???

OK, it's a little hard to know exactly what Bush would have to do in order to get impeached. If this doesn't rise to the level of an impeachable offense, does that mean the only way to get impeached is to lie about a blow job? Seriously folks, what kind of message is sent by the fact that Clinton underwent impeachment hearings and Bush has not faced any serious hearings at all? This situation is a complete miscarriage of justice, a complete abrogation of the responsibility of Congress, an intolerable shame to all Americans, a statement of the lack of any ethical foundation or legitimacy for the actions of the nation.

I agree completely. Impeachment is the proper response to a constitutional crisis, in this case the myriad of crimes and lies perpetrated by the Bush clan. However, it is so late in the game that instead, I'm hoping some prosecutor(s) will go after these neocons as private citizens in February of 2009. That way Bush won't be able to issue an orgy of pardons for all his butt buddies. Unless McCain is elected.......folks in Florida and Ohio, please watch your Republican crooks down there in November.

Bush would have to lie about a bj to get impeached

scruzman @ 130:

What about these guys: should they be prosecuted?

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years .. We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

Possibly, if it can be proven they purposefully lied to advance the cause for the Iraq War. Especially that Jay Rockefeller bastard............

Republican dude, you think it's all about party. Most liberals like myself look to country first, party is waaaaay down the list. If someone breaks a law, then justice should prevail. Justice hasn't even come close to prevailing with the Bushco administration and their sychophantic buddies in Congress, Dem and Repuke alike.

marko @ 39:

impeach them now...don't wait...

Thank you, thank you Marko for this link. It's been a great many months since I'd seen this clip and it's a true testament to the visionary foresight and courage of Dennis Kucinich. "It's called impeachment and you do it NOW!" Fucking brilliant. And, sadly, the rest of the cowardly candidates just sat their with their heads up their asses (despite the roar of the crowd at the debate). And yes, sorry to say, but that included Obama.

Scruzman@130;

IF they knowingly made those statements realizing it was all bullshit... Well, then, yea... IF they made those statements in good faith because they were being fed neocon propaganda and they just fell for it... Then, I'm thinkin, not so much impeachment for them as much as just being voted out of office for being terminally stupid, 'led by the nose' morons.... Either way I'm sick of hearing about how 'we all thought' and 'nobody could have ever expected or predicted blah blah blah... FUCK 'we all thought' and 'noone would ever have' bullshit etc.... What they 'all thought' or 'didn't think' was fucking WRONG!!! Being a clueless dope is not necessarily criminal... Going along with the charade after realizing what it is, and purpituating the crime and continued enabling of the criminals behind the crime... Well, that's a wholly different matter. Crimes! Treason and crimes against the world, the nation and the constitution should have the most serious of repurcussions for the perps.. ALL the perps and accomplices... The way this shit is playing out right now, you and I would face a grimmer future for smoking a goddamned joint then these assholes appear to face for fucking over 2 nations, those nations economies and its' people over oil... I can't begin to express just how twisted and fucked up that really is......JD

Come ON Nancy... the Bushies have practically built you a new table, given you a bag to carry IT to the table, and a new stepladder to actually climb UP to the table so you can dump the bag out on it... when is IT going to be back on the table?

IT took HOW LONG FOR most DUM AMERICANS to get this

ha h ah ah hah ah ahahha

hell i knew this when bush said MISSSION ACCOMPLISHED

So pathetic - no one wil do anything about it - it´s just another report, you know... I even hate myself for losing my time writing this.

Jack Damage @ 138:

Scruzman@130;

IF they knowingly made those statements realizing it was all bullshit... Well, then, yea... IF they made those statements in good faith because they were being fed neocon propaganda and they just fell for it... Then, I'm thinkin, not so much impeachment for them as much as just being voted out of office for being terminally stupid, 'led by the nose' morons.... Either way I'm sick of hearing about how 'we all thought' and 'nobody could have ever expected or predicted blah blah blah... FUCK 'we all thought' and 'noone would ever have' bullshit etc.... What they 'all thought' or 'didn't think' was fucking WRONG!!! Being a clueless dope is not necessarily criminal... Going along with the charade after realizing what it is, and purpituating the crime and continued enabling of the criminals behind the crime... Well, that's a wholly different matter. Crimes! Treason and crimes against the world, the nation and the constitution should have the most serious of repurcussions for the perps.. ALL the perps and accomplices... The way this shit is playing out right now, you and I would face a grimmer future for smoking a goddamned joint then these assholes appear to face for fucking over 2 nations, those nations economies and its' people over oil... I can't begin to express just how twisted and fucked up that really is......JD

Maybe they all should have read the intelligence reports. The point is that the public is being duped on a daily basis by Repubs and Demo's alike. The perfect storm of forces that prevail on this country, and threaten to devestate it, are being ignored precisely because our politicians put party before the country. WTFU!

...and forget about impeaching Bush - total waste of keystrokes in an election year.

the most significant soapbox selling iraq, and iran next is the talk radio monopoly. they will sell iran too unless Americans begin boycotting and picketing their local talk radio station.

Its not the first unprovoked war, there was Vietnam. The Gulf or Tonkin incident was FAKE.

I was called a conspiracy theorist ON THIS FORUM, for saying things like this...not too long ago.

[I just checked, and that simply is not true-Sitemonitor]

Its been awhile, but anyways I shouldn't have said not so long ago.

People need to realize what we live in, its a dictatorship and we all know the real story but some of us want to ignore certain parts because it doesn't make them comfortable. This political system is a joke both Dem and Repub when they bow to the same people and do the same thing. We all knew guys like Kucinich, Gravel and yes Ron Paul were the right guys for the job and we turned away. We could have had real people who cared in there but instead we have puppets and actors. Mostly criminals.

God help us all, maybe people will wake up by 2012 when everything will be worst.

Please add your name to this petition if you are interested in seeing GWB et. al. be held responsible for all of their high crimes, including murder, while in office. Thank you.

classic Alan Dershowitz defense. the less the man running the case knows the more free he is to say anything to further the case. "the less i know the better"

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