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From an email from Rep. Robert Wexler's office:

Judiciary Committee Officially Requests Scott McClellan Testimony for Friday, June 20
Wexler Plans Tough Questions About Possible Obstruction of Justice By Cheney, Rove, and Libby

(Washington, DC) Today Congressman Robert Wexler (D-FL) applauded the decision by Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers to invite former White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan to testify under oath about the shocking revelations and possible illegal actions by members of the Bush Administration that he detailed in his book What Happened: Inside the Bush White House and Washington’s Culture of Deception.

Immediately following the book’s release, Congressman Wexler called for Congress to investigate the charges made by McClellan regarding the Bush Administration’s campaign to go to war with Iraq and efforts by Karl Rove and Scooter Libby to possibly obstruct justice during the Valerie Plame matter.

“The earth-shattering admissions made by Scott McClellan in his new book warrant a sober and thorough hearing in the House Judiciary Committee and he should immediately accept the Committee’s request for his testimony,” said Congressman Wexler. “The allegations made by McClellan that Karl Rove, Scooter Libby, and possibly even Vice President Dick Cheney, together conspired to obstruct justice by lying about their role in the Plame case relates directly to the core of US executive power and the Constitution. If true, the allegations made by McClellan could amount to an obstruction of justice charge for Scooter Libby and Karl Rove.

“Scott McClellan must appear before Congress and tell the American people, under oath, how the Bush Administration not only obstructed justice during the Valerie Plame investigation but orchestrated a massive propaganda campaign to sell an unnecessary war in Iraq to the American people.

“Any efforts by the White House to claim executive privilege and thereby prevent McClellan from testifying would be ludicrous due to the fact that McClellan has already spoken at length about many of these matters both in his book and on numerous television interviews.”

UPDATEScott McClellan accepts the invitation to testify before the House Judiciary Committee 



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Fake outrage from Faux/Reich-wingers in: 5....4....3....2....1....

Someone PLEASE put Rove in jail.

Say what you want about Scottie, I like this little shitstorm he has stirred.

Drinks on the porch!

nothing will happen...

Damn! C-span will cover it live I hope. Pass the popcorn.

scrumptious!

George Ludicrous Bush doesn't care....

Maybe Robert Wexler could compare notes on his continual campaigning techniques with Scottie and Bushco. Since Wexler discovered the Internet, he's become ubiquitous.

Well....I like the thought they are going after him....and I hope they can right some very big wrongs. But, I wouldn't have picked Wexler to do the questioning. Obviously he is not into intensive questioning, judging by his abhorrent behavior at the RBC and backing the guy who was willing to throw FLA under the bus....now I will sit back and watch the obamatrolls howl.

Huh...

Do you mean to tell me that the dead-assed, old, corrupt Dems such as 'I am the Chairman...' Conyers are makin' noises like the intend to DO something about 'The Biggest Liar that Evah Lived!' and his war criminal pals?

Well, cynic that I am I still hope they will...otherwise, McSame will be running on a...

'Get rid of the Do-Nothing Dems' plank come the Fall and he wouldn't mind that at all.

Since it's the truth...so far.

I love the smell of sternly worded letters in the morning!

I have to wonder if, while under oath, will he tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
I'm thinkin he just might.but then again.

I remember how excited we were about Scooter. I hope he is enjoying his time in jail.
Oh right.

But I am confident, not bitter.

Really, I am.

Freakaloin @ 5:

nothing will happen...

While I can't help feeling pessimistic myself (I live and breathe, after all), it's not too late to impeach Dick Cheney.

If I were to have my pipe dreams at this point, I'd have the House to the investigations now, and wait to vote to impeach until after the November elections. Then, the trial should be held in the new Senate in January just before Obama is sworn in.

Scottie used to look so constipated with guilt.

And Rove? What about him?

Rove should testify BEFORE McClellan. After McClennan talks, Rove can be hauled back in for questioning about any inconsistencies, evasions, "I don't recall" 's or outright lies. And his answers will give just cause to subpoena all the others he colluded with.

Why go easy on any of these conniving bastards? Why wait any longer?

Whatever. Nothing will come of this. I'm starting to think that these Congressmen are doing it all for political gain in hopes they'll get reelected by their constituency.

Scott McClellan isn't saying anything earth shattering. This is all just theater, people.

He was on various talk shows and he kept saying that he wasn't present in any of those meetings that strategized how to sell the war, so his testimony is as good as hearsay.

Can the white house stop him from appearing before them? Will they claim his testimony will threaten security or some other lame reason?

As a fan of the circus, watching the acrobatics involved in claiming Executive Privilege after releasing a tell-all book is going to be LOTS of fun

Damn! I'm gonna haveta pull a double on the 19th so I can watch this live! Should be a lot better than last year's "I don't remember/recall-fest" with Samson, Goodling and Gonzo. Whoopee!

nothing will happen… just nothing will happen

Empire tries to police itself. Epic fail ensues.

I am not a Christian but the most beautiful idea behind Christianity is redemption. I think this will prove one way or the other -- is Scotty truly sorry for what he did? If so, and he testifies under oath what he has written in his book, this just might be the beginning of the justice and accountability we have been longing for.
Scotty has said he is sorry for what he did. Let's give him a chance to prove it.

It should be worth at least a bowl of popcorn, just to watch it play out.

It is interesting that Scottie wasn't in those meetings. I beginning to think that those behind doors meeting with the president are really more of a ruse of a body snatching cloning process by aliens. Was Scottie lucky enough to escape the clutches of evil doer in office, unlike John McCain drastic transformation?

Sorry for being snarky, but I'll believe it when I see it. Maybe then I'll be more serious.

Jo @ 24:

I am not a Christian but the most beautiful idea behind Christianity is redemption. I think this will prove one way or the other -- is Scotty truly sorry for what he did? If so, and he testifies under oath what he has written in his book, this just might be the beginning of the justice and accountability we have been longing for.
Scotty has said he is sorry for what he did. Let's give him a chance to prove it.

He's full of crap. I listened to a radio interviewer with him on NPR and he was questioned about the Jeff Gannon issue (ex-male prostitute given a daily press pass over and over so he could throw Scotty a softball now and then when Scotty needed a break) and he danced around it. Now if you're really feeling repentant but you can't come clean on Jeff Gannon, I call major bullshit.

If Bush decides he can prevent McClellan from testifying we're going to have a showdown in DC.

Whatever happens, their crimes need to be exposed, officially, for History's sake. Prison would be great, but

just watching them squirming, "forgetting" and ruined forever, would be a terrific ending to an 8 year

nightmare. Just think about it, the Dems are actually doing SOMETHING!!! Go Scotty--redemption!

Jo @ 6:

Damn! C-span will cover it live I hope. Pass the popcorn.

You know they will. And you know there will be a thread going here so we can comment live. This should be good. I don't know if McClellan will be able to answer every question, though. In his recent interviews he's making it seem that he was quite compartmentalized- damned near marginalized- from the important players.

what a laugh when Jeff Gannon said about Scottie's new book "he is not the Scottie I knew", and I had to think maybe Jeff wasn't focus on Scottie's mouth, but maybe somewhere below? He threw so many softball question that it was borderline foreplay!

Jo @ 24:

I am not a Christian but the most beautiful idea behind Christianity is redemption. I think this will prove one way or the other -- is Scotty truly sorry for what he did? If so, and he testifies under oath what he has written in his book, this just might be the beginning of the justice and accountability we have been longing for.
Scotty has said he is sorry for what he did. Let's give him a chance to prove it.

Redemption is prominent in pre-Christian mythos, all over the globe. I think our appreciation of the concept is encoded genetically.

I believe the little dude is sincere and at some time after leaving the white house his conscience got the better of him. First he just wanted to write the book but as he started he found this might be the way to clear his conscience. He sees now how badly he was used and he's angry too. I'm sure willing to listen to anything else he has to say.

As for the Gannon issue, that really isn't what his book was about and to go into it more might be getting into someones personal life, a place where he doesn't feel comfortable going.

All these interviews he did, he wasn't under oath. On the 20th that will be different and this guy doesn't seem to me the kind of guy who could easily lie under oath.

If anything comes of this it would be a first. yawn

Filthy Harry @ 27:

Jo @ 24:

I am not a Christian but the most beautiful idea behind Christianity is redemption. I think this will prove one way or the other -- is Scotty truly sorry for what he did? If so, and he testifies under oath what he has written in his book, this just might be the beginning of the justice and accountability we have been longing for.
Scotty has said he is sorry for what he did. Let's give him a chance to prove it.

He's full of crap. I listened to a radio interviewer with him on NPR and he was questioned about the Jeff Gannon issue (ex-male prostitute given a daily press pass over and over so he could throw Scotty a softball now and then when Scotty needed a break) and he danced around it. Now if you're really feeling repentant but you can't come clean on Jeff Gannon, I call major bullshit.

You may be right. I just want to give him every chance to answer under oath. Call me an idealist, but I am not about to give up on the idea of nailing a few hides to the wall. If Scotty's testamony starts the process, gets people's attention, I'm giving him the credit.

pissed off patricia @ 19:

Can the white house stop him from appearing before them? Will they claim his testimony will threaten security or some other lame reason?

I doubt it, I think things that Scotty learned as Press Secretary are ...well, you know, meant for publication and there for part of a public record. Of course that probably won't stop Bushco from trying, and lying and crying!

pissed off patricia @ 33:

I believe the little dude is sincere and at some time after leaving the white house his conscience got the better of him. First he just wanted to write the book but as he started he found this might be the way to clear his conscience. He sees now how badly he was used and he's angry too. I'm sure willing to listen to anything else he has to say.

As for the Gannon issue, that really isn't what his book was about and to go into it more might be getting into someones personal life, a place where he doesn't feel comfortable going.

All these interviews he did, he wasn't under oath. On the 20th that will be different and this guy doesn't seem to me the kind of guy who could easily lie under oath.

Exactly!

I would say that of all the press secretary, Scottie was my favorite, because he lied so uncomfortably.

Dana, the best of the best, and breaking ground as the best female liar for the whitehouse. Yeah pro women's liberation! Now women can lie just as well as men. Of all role model in DC, we had to have Dana!

Wonder who scheduled the hearing on FRIDAY...that means it's sure to get buried by the MSM.

I don't expect anything earth-shattering to come out of it. We already know that
1] most of the people in the Bush administration have broken various laws
2] They don't care and
3] Nothing (serious) has been or will be done to them.

Saint Augustine @ 36:

pissed off patricia @ 19:

Can the white house stop him from appearing before them? Will they claim his testimony will threaten security or some other lame reason?

I doubt it, I think things that Scotty learned as Press Secretary are ...well, you know, meant for publication and there for part of a public record. Of course that probably won't stop Bushco from trying, and lying and crying!

I remember when his book first came out and there was talk of him being called to testify, some reporter asked Dana Perino if the white house would stop him from testifying but I can't remember exactly what she said. I think she just laughed it off and said something about she didn't even know if he would be called yet.

What have been the real reasons for previous inaction by the democrats?

Would a book that in reality tells us nothing we didn't already know actually change those reasons?

If, as seems the case, there's a lot of compromising dirt on a lot of members of Congress preventing any genuine oversight, McClellan's book will change nothing.

Sorry, but I vote 'theater' too.

Andy K Jong Il @ 30:

Jo @ 6:

Damn! C-span will cover it live I hope. Pass the popcorn.

You know they will. And you know there will be a thread going here so we can comment live. This should be good. I don't know if McClellan will be able to answer every question, though. In his recent interviews he's making it seem that he was quite compartmentalized- damned near marginalized- from the important players.

Yeah, Looks like I'll have to take that day off too. But you've raised a good point Andy. About him being marginalized.
The booshies aren't that smart to see this coming are they? Not that far away? My gut is tellin me that we're about to be played.

Andy K Jong Il @ 32:

Jo @ 24:

I am not a Christian but the most beautiful idea behind Christianity is redemption. I think this will prove one way or the other -- is Scotty truly sorry for what he did? If so, and he testifies under oath what he has written in his book, this just might be the beginning of the justice and accountability we have been longing for.
Scotty has said he is sorry for what he did. Let's give him a chance to prove it.

Redemption is prominent in pre-Christian mythos, all over the globe. I think our appreciation of the concept is encoded genetically.

Yes. There is something inside all of us that yearns for justice and redemption. Unless you are a psychopath like Bush.

What did Wexler do at the showdown about which votes would count in Mich and FL? I tuned in just after he finished speaking and I got the feeling he must have done something to get the place fired up.

so congressman "we don't read the bills" conyers is having a token hearing
to officially air what we already knew. what a farce.

This is how the Nixon Administration was brought to ruin. It took ONE HONEST MAN to pull down the whole thing. I am hoping the BushCo Crime Family begins to unravel in an exponential manner, just to make the November elections more interesting!

Bout fucking time. Why don't these fucktards demand testimony from every person in the white house. And this time don't let chimpy and dick compare notes in the interview.

It is time this country starts accepting the testimony of the President and Vice President before congress as a normal and natural part of oversight. No President is more important than the country, or the laws they are sworn to uphold.

PssttCmere @ 10:

Well....I like the thought they are going after him....and I hope they can right some very big wrongs. But, I wouldn't have picked Wexler to do the questioning. Obviously he is not into intensive questioning, judging by his abhorrent behavior at the RBC and backing the guy who was willing to throw FLA under the bus....now I will sit back and watch the obamatrolls howl.

some of the worst bait ive seen from a troll.

JSA @ 2:

Someone PLEASE put Rove in jail.

Well we all know that if he dose n't want to talk that water boarding is completely legal don't we ......... ;)

John from WI @ 46:

This is how the Nixon Administration was brought to ruin. It took ONE HONEST MAN to pull down the whole thing. I am hoping the BushCo Crime Family begins to unravel in an exponential manner, just to make the November elections more interesting!

Yup, and show all the links to McPain and how he will tow the Bush line etc.

Name required @ 22:

nothing will happen… just nothing will happen

...... is the unfortunate truth of it :(

Since odds are that Scotty might actually tell the truth, look for him to be "accidented", "stroked", "heart attacked" or otherwise "untimely demised" by Bushco. If Wexler and Conyers want McClellan's testimony, they'd better give him immediate, competentm, around-the-clock protection.

Able Danger @ 18:

Whatever. Nothing will come of this. I'm starting to think that these Congressmen are doing it all for political gain in hopes they'll get reelected by their constituency.

Scott McClellan isn't saying anything earth shattering. This is all just theater, people.

He was on various talk shows and he kept saying that he wasn't present in any of those meetings that strategized how to sell the war, so his testimony is as good as hearsay.

Yeah me too.

This is good...

but what does it take to get these democrats to begin impeachment proceedings against those who
have caused so much death and sadness for American citizens?

Paul @ 53:

Since odds are that Scotty might actually tell the truth, look for him to be "accidented", "stroked", "heart attacked" or otherwise "untimely demised" by Bushco. If Wexler and Conyers want McClellan's testimony, they'd better give him immediate, competentm, around-the-clock protection.

Hey, lets hire blackwater for the job!

Jo @ 6:

Damn! C-span will cover it live I hope. Pass the popcorn.

Ask them:
events@c-span.org
.

I think some of Wexler's fairly recent firebrand persona comes from the fact that his seat is up for grabs this year here in FL He knows there are a lot of pissed dems down here and he sees an advantage in appealing and playing to their anger.

Having said that, I hope that he is being sincere with his outrage.

They got away with executive privilege with the TILLMAN MURDER, so this is a cake walk.

Rut roh!

The email I got from Wexler said Scottie was "invited" to testify. Is that political-speak for "subpoenaed"?

Jerry @ 50:

JSA @ 2:

Someone PLEASE put Rove in jail.

Well we all know that if he dose n't want to talk that water boarding is completely legal don't we ......... ;)

We all know he wouldn't even get his orange jumpsuit warm before bush would give him a pardon.

Yup, more theatre. But I can see why it may be worth the effort even so. Keeping the repubs in bad odor through the election cycle is one good strategy for keeping McBush on the defensive.

Well, all I can say is that it's a damn good bit of luck that we didn't waste our time with useless impeachment proceedings! Another triumph for ... Caucus Blockus(tm)!

John from WI @ 46:

This is how the Nixon Administration was brought to ruin. It took ONE HONEST MAN to pull down the whole thing. I am hoping the BushCo Crime Family begins to unravel in an exponential manner, just to make the November elections more interesting!

Absolutely right. It will be fun to watch the McSpin follow along with any testimony, or exposure. Maybe it will be HOT by election time.

This must be close to first times that a Bush administration member is testifying under oath.

And this time there is nothing Bush can do to stop it!!

[Deleted. Off topic. Enough with the flamebait already. Thank you. Site Monitor]

Yeah....big fuckin' deal! I'm still waiting for the Sergeant-at-arms do be dispatched to arrest Karl Rove and bring him in to testify before the House or sit in the jail in the dungeon of the Capitol! Remember that little threat from the mighty, mighty Dems??? Still waiting for that, since Rove's lawyer said Rove would not appear of his own free will!

Hey, open it up, see if it stinks and if it does, someone else just might notice.

Look at how much air time he got with his book. Everyone wanted him on their show all the while knowing what he was going to talk about. It got people talking. Can't hurt to bring the subject up again.

Freakaloin @ 5:

nothing will happen...

may as well give it a shot otherwise there will be people who claim congress passed on an opportunity....wow..he will sell some books if he testifies.....not sure he is going offer anything big but you never know

paranoia @ 56:

Paul @ 53:

Since odds are that Scotty might actually tell the truth, look for him to be "accidented", "stroked", "heart attacked" or otherwise "untimely demised" by Bushco. If Wexler and Conyers want McClellan's testimony, they'd better give him immediate, competentm, around-the-clock protection.

Hey, lets hire blackwater for the job!

Speaking of Bilgewater, I just this e-mail about 2 minutes ago:

[Deleted. Off Topic. This belongs in an open thread, not at one about Congressional hearings involving Scott McClellan. Please, if you decide to post it there, link to it rather than posting that in all of its glorious length. Thank you. Site Monitor]

First step to the firing squad.

the player hidden in the wings of this stage is Fitzie.

he's next. watch the sparks fly then.

The turd blossom's about to hit the fan!

This move by Conyers tells me

what's needed is courage and honesty on the part of witnesses.

Americans should pay close attention to what Conyers is saying.

US congressional report finds strong White House ties to corrupt lobbyist

The lobbyist and convicted fraudster Jack Abramoff had a direct pipeline to the Bush White House and influenced several key decisions, according to a bipartisan draft report released in Congress today.

The draft report found Abramoff associates using expensive gifts to curry favour with White House aides and orchestrating the sacking of a US state department negotiator who disagreed with them.

In addition, the congressional report uncovered six one-on-one encounters between Abramoff and George Bush — four more than the White House has acknowledged previously in its denials of any significant ties to the lobbyist.

"This evidence suggests that the White House failed to conduct even the most basic internal investigation of the White House relationship with Mr Abramoff before making public statements characterising the connection," the report states.
...

what if McClellan tells under oath that his book was completely fiction?
All he has to lose is his book sales dollars, the right wing can easily compensate him for that.

Something to think about....hmmmmm

Bud "Terrorist Fist Jab" Hussein @ 61:

The email I got from Wexler said Scottie was "invited" to testify. Is that political-speak for "subpoenaed"?

I believe McClellan being "invited" means that McClellan can tell Conyers and Wexler to go F themselves.

jackinthebox4 @ 72:

the player hidden in the wings of this stage is Fitzie.

he's next. watch the sparks fly then.

we can only hope jack. If he figures out he's been had. Something might happen. If it doesn't, he may be a part of it.

Invite D.N.E. Subpoena

Abbybwood @ 78:

Bud "Terrorist Fist Jab" Hussein @ 61:

The email I got from Wexler said Scottie was "invited" to testify. Is that political-speak for "subpoenaed"?

I believe McClellan being "invited" means that McClellan can tell Conyers and Wexler to go F themselves.

can't sell any books with that attitude scott

any trial going to the senate will result in an acquittal, thus legitimizing, if not legalizing, the criminal actions of the WH. It would be nice if they can get to impeachment before the Iran war is attempted.

paranoia @ 38:

I would say that of all the press secretary, Scottie was my favorite, because he lied so uncomfortably.

My sentiments exactly.
I am enjoying this. Somebody pass me a beer and let the games begin.

Skimming the comments i can see that the universal doubt and outright lack of faith in any justice comming out of this administration's spending the past seven and a half years running rough shod over the United States Constitution, the laws of the United States, International Laws and the Geneva Conventions (among other things such as an entire nation or two) is one thing that gets lost in the shuffle.

Thinking Americans have little or no faith in our country anymore. You can't keep a country together if noone believes in it no matter how many jails you build or how many guns you have. It won't work.

I read a long time ago that an empire stands on three legs: It's economy, it's military and it's people's loyalty.

Well the economy sucks, our military is ruined and Bill O'Rielly and about 17 million others think we are headed in the right direction. If the whole thing colapses does the Bush Administration seriously believe that impeachment would be the worst thing that could possibly happen to them?

And I expect the white house to shortly 'officially' claim executive privledge for this fuckwad.. At which point I will 'offcially' wait to see how congress 'officially' blows this off and lets this latest shit slide right on by... Just like all the rest of the shit the Bush administration has managed to slide right on by this 'official' branch of government.

I just wonder how much longer all these legislative politicians will continue to allow themselves to be rendered totally irrelevant....punked out... Ya know, sooner or later people are going to begin to get the idea that you people in congress are a total waste of good money... And that plays right into the hands of those people who spend all their time having wet dreams about drowning babies in the bathtub....know what I mean???

If we want three ligitimate co-equal branches of government in this country, then that requires congress to get off their asses and do their share... Even if it is a chore that hurts.. Even if its a chore that pits them against another branches excesses as a matter of them doing the job they were hired to do by the populace. There can be no checks and balances unless the people tasked with these responsibilities take ALL of them seriously. Nancy? For Christ sake set a goddamned table already. Under the circumstances, it's past time, it's your fucking job lady!! So goddammit, do it!!!!!! I'm sick to death of watching these motherfuckers continually thumbing their noses at you, at us, at the law and the constitution......As others have loudly said... impeach, indict, convict, sentence....Fucking do it!!!!JD

Ooh, this is delicious news ... things are starting to get interesting now. People are finally standing up to these bastards. It's about time.

under the protection of this war and homeland security this administration can do/will do as they please they have been two to three steps ahead of us at all times.....they a few brillant team of lawyers..one of them is addington...they have already painted scott as a left winger because he spoke up to all americans....this is more of that division they love to do newt gingrich brought the divide and conquer to whole new level

karl @ 81:

Abbybwood @ 78:

Bud "Terrorist Fist Jab" Hussein @ 61:

The email I got from Wexler said Scottie was "invited" to testify. Is that political-speak for "subpoenaed"?

I believe McClellan being "invited" means that McClellan can tell Conyers and Wexler to go F themselves.

can't sell any books with that attitude scott

McClellan has already said he would appear. House etiquette is to invite witnesses unless they say they won't appear (in which case they are subpoenaed) or they say that they would prefer to be subpoenaed. In any case, much ado about nothing. He won't say anything different than what is in his book. Saying it again doesn't make it any more or less truthful or any more or less important.

CD @ 28:

If Bush decides he can prevent McClellan from testifying we're going to have a showdown in DC.

Yeah....don't hold your breath! Blue is probably not your color.

I say drag this out until the chimp is long gone.
But this raises a question in my mind. What are we going to say if the next President pardons any of them.
Now, before anyone attacks me for not mentioning Sen Obamas name as the next President.
Think about it for a second. I only do it out of respect for him. Cause I sure as hell hope he doesn't do it.

Balancing the scant scales of justice here in South Florida. Go Congressman Wexler!

One person finger Blackwater as possible suspect for the Tillman's murder case and the investigation quickly shut down after that. Another investigation that seemingly finger Blackwater as possible suspect for our soldier assassinated in Iraq got shutdown. Blackwater been the suspect of cutting communication line on the Jefferson Parrish in New Orleans. Blackwater is sounding more and more like what the Gestapo did to the German's army in 1930-40's.

Having this kind of military in a police state fascism environment tend to create fear in govt. This fear has been present to shut people up, and sending anthrax powder to those that speak out against the war, and keep people in fear with false terror alert on broadcast system.

As for one person taking down Nixon and that this could happen again is false IMHO, because we now have a compromise judicial system that are just as corrupt as the whitehouse.

mudshark @ 90:

I say drag this out until the chimp is long gone.
But this raises a question in my mind. What are we going to say if the next President pardons any of them.
Now, before anyone attacks me for not mentioning Sen Obamas name as the next President.
Think about it for a second. I only do it out of respect for him. Cause I sure as hell hope he doesn't do it.

I really don't think anyone outside of McCain would have the idiocy. Obama has already stated that he iw willing to pursue all avenues of investigation into any wrongdoing.

Maybe Conyers could tell Scottie to "invite" his friends Harriet Miers and Josh "not the moustache" Bolton.

Get ready for the Executive Privilege card to be played by one of the "rocking chair on the porch" boys. It's a "Get out of Jail Free" card for the simian warmonger and his corporatist henchmen, including McClellan. If Rove can give the finger to Congress, why can't Dubya's mouthpiece, Scotty?

Richard @ 88:

karl @ 81:

Abbybwood @ 78:

Bud "Terrorist Fist Jab" Hussein @ 61:

I believe McClellan being "invited" means that McClellan can tell Conyers and Wexler to go F themselves.

can't sell any books with that attitude scott

McClellan has already said he would appear. House etiquette is to invite witnesses unless they say they won't appear (in which case they are subpoenaed) or they say that they would prefer to be subpoenaed. In any case, much ado about nothing. He won't say anything different than what is in his book. Saying it again doesn't make it any more or less truthful or any more or less important.

But it will be under oath. Makes it more important. Makes it part of the record.

Little Scotty will hopefully spill some more beans and save his soul. Might be a good time to let our elected representatives know we'd like to see Bush crime family in orange suits at sunny gitmo country club.

Andy K Jong Il @ 21:

Damn! I'm gonna haveta pull a double on the 19th so I can watch this live! Should be a lot better than last year's "I don't remember/recall-fest" with Samson, Goodling and Gonzo. Whoopee!

These people without memories should be locked up in solitary confinement until they recall their memories. (take them a way from the commotion so they can remember.)

I'm sure this won't help boosh, either.

U.S. quits as observer at UN Human Rights Council under war-crimes accusations
Submitted by meg on Mon, 06/09/2008 - 1:38pm. Alerts
A BUZZFLASH NEWS ALERT by Meg White

The White House quietly pulled out of the UN Human Rights Council as the Bush Administration came under fire by the House of Representatives for possible war crimes violations. Separately, Guantanamo Bay prosecutors prepare for their own war-crimes tribunals and secret negotiations continue over the role of the U.S. in Iraq.

In his daily briefing Friday, State Department spokesman Sean McCormack answered questions about the U.S. relinquishing its observer status in the international council. He criticized the institution as "pathetic," and "almost solely focused on bashing Israel." Though McCormack said the U.S. intends to "take a more reserved approach" in its participation, Reuters reported rumors that the U.S. will soon "disengage totally" from the council.

The 47-member council addresses human rights violations worldwide. It was created in 2006 to replace the UN Commission on Human Rights, which had been criticized for granting membership to countries with poor human rights records, such as China and Sudan. The U.S. voted against its creation and has since refused to become a seated member, though it remained an involved observer until the announcement this weekend.

The same day as the announcement from the State Department, 56 members of the House of Representatives called for an investigation into the possibility that the Bush Administration may have committed war crimes in its advocacy for more intense interrogation techniques against detainees.

War, torture, lies, death! What a legacy!!!

Question for any Constitutional Lawyers out there.

If it is proven that Bush was involved in this leak and it's cover-up/obstruction. What does that do to Libby's pardon? The President cannot pardon for crimes he was involved in is the only exception to his pardon power, or so I thought.

Could Scooter's pardon be taken away?

xoites defends Constitution @ 93:

mudshark @ 90:

I say drag this out until the chimp is long gone.
But this raises a question in my mind. What are we going to say if the next President pardons any of them.
Now, before anyone attacks me for not mentioning Sen Obamas name as the next President.
Think about it for a second. I only do it out of respect for him. Cause I sure as hell hope he doesn't do it.

I really don't think anyone outside of McCain would have the idiocy. Obama has already stated that he iw willing to pursue all avenues of investigation into any wrongdoing.

OK, I'm stocking up on the popcorn.

Keep in mind that McClellan already testified under oath to Fitzgerald's grand jury, and isn't about to jeopardize his personal liberty by appearing now to have perjured himself back then. After donating some profits to good causes he'll still have a nice little windfall for himself, which would be difficult to enjoy from behind bars. :) Therefore people shouldn't be getting overly excited about blockbuster revelations coming out of any additional testimony. ;)

EMPY @ 100:

Question for any Constitutional Lawyers out there.

If it is proven that Bush was involved in this leak and it's cover-up/obstruction. What does that do to Libby's pardon? The President cannot pardon for crimes he was involved in is the only exception to his pardon power, or so I thought.

Could Scooter's pardon be taken away?

It depends on the scope of the pardon. Ford pardoned Noxin for "crimes committed and any crimes he may have committed".

That might be a mouthful for the shrub, but someone may put it to paper for him to sign.

we'll see.

xoites defends Constitution @ 84:

Skimming the comments i can see that the universal doubt and outright lack of faith in any justice comming out of this administration's spending the past seven and a half years running rough shod over the United States Constitution, the laws of the United States, International Laws and the Geneva Conventions (among other things such as an entire nation or two) is one thing that gets lost in the shuffle.

Thinking Americans have little or no faith in our country anymore. You can't keep a country together if noone believes in it no matter how many jails you build or how many guns you have. It won't work.

I read a long time ago that an empire stands on three legs: It's economy, it's military and it's people's loyalty.

Well the economy sucks, our military is ruined and Bill O'Rielly and about 17 million others think we are headed in the right direction. If the whole thing colapses does the Bush Administration seriously believe that impeachment would be the worst thing that could possibly happen to them?

the "common" people of this country are assured of one thing: that any hardship, obstacle, misfortune or crime that may befall them, that there will be no justice, especially if the perpetrators are among the ruling class.

BaScOmBe against Bitter Elitist Appeasement Bullshit @ 103:

EMPY @ 100:

Question for any Constitutional Lawyers out there.

If it is proven that Bush was involved in this leak and it's cover-up/obstruction. What does that do to Libby's pardon? The President cannot pardon for crimes he was involved in is the only exception to his pardon power, or so I thought.

Could Scooter's pardon be taken away?

It depends on the scope of the pardon. Ford pardoned Noxin for "crimes committed and any crimes he may have committed".

That might be a mouthful for the shrub, but someone may put it to paper for him to sign.

we'll see.

If the scope of the pardon, includes crimes he was a party to, how can he issue that pardon? Or whatever he called it.

Here's the thing. Scotty was already disillusioned when he wrote the book. He started the book tour and the WH sent out the attack dogs, Rove, Bartlett, Perino with the same talking points ("we don't recognize the same Scotty!"). He must be really pissed now. They've personally attacked his integrity.

There will be blowback. And in front of Congress. Suh-weet!

Ford was not involved in Nixon's crimes, or am I incorrect?

enaud @ 3:

Say what you want about Scottie, I like this little shitstorm he has stirred.

Agreed :)

shorter Squirm McClellan:

"Thanx for investigatin' this.

But I cannot comment on an ongoing investigation."

(o0)
//||\\

wheeee (Old Deal McCain) @ 108:

enaud @ 3:

Say what you want about Scottie, I like this little shitstorm he has stirred.

Agreed :)

keep it in the media especially for the doubters that the war was preemptive and unnecessary..generals are coming out.... now more white house staffers are speaking up

Something will happen.

Be positive.

EMPY @ 107:

Ford was not involved in Nixon's crimes, or am I incorrect?

Correct. He was the House Minority leader at the time of the break-ins and during most of the cover-up.

And Agnew wasn't involved, either. He was convicted of some state charges in Maryland on something (tax evasion? bribery?) that pre-dated his ascendance to the VP spot.

Andy K Jong Il @ 112:

EMPY @ 107:

Ford was not involved in Nixon's crimes, or am I incorrect?

Correct. He was the House Minority leader at the time of the break-ins and during most of the cover-up.

And Agnew wasn't involved, either. He was convicted of some state charges in Maryland on something (tax evasion? bribery?) that pre-dated his ascendance to the VP spot.

I believe one of the charges was "Influence peddling"

mudshark @ 113:

Andy K Jong Il @ 112:

EMPY @ 107:

Ford was not involved in Nixon's crimes, or am I incorrect?

Correct. He was the House Minority leader at the time of the break-ins and during most of the cover-up.

And Agnew wasn't involved, either. He was convicted of some state charges in Maryland on something (tax evasion? bribery?) that pre-dated his ascendance to the VP spot.

I believe one of the charges was "Influence peddling"

BINGO!

And one more thought on Ford and Agnew: for anyone who doubts their innocence, if they'd been involved, John Dean woulda said so.

Wexler, you along w/Cornyer and Waxman, need to "get a life". This is I'm sure just
another "dog and pony" show by him and his com-patriots to try and persuade the
American voting public that you are doing something and should retain your respective
seats in the House/Senate. You can fool some of the people some of the time, but
you cannot fool all of the people all the time.

John Dean- now there's an example of redemption.

Andy K Jong Il @ 114:

mudshark @ 113:

Andy K Jong Il @ 112:

EMPY @ 107:

Correct. He was the House Minority leader at the time of the break-ins and during most of the cover-up.

And Agnew wasn't involved, either. He was convicted of some state charges in Maryland on something (tax evasion? bribery?) that pre-dated his ascendance to the VP spot.

I believe one of the charges was "Influence peddling"

BINGO!

And one more thought on Ford and Agnew: for anyone who doubts their innocence, if they'd been involved, John Dean woulda said so.

ya see, every once and awhile these old fins remember. and who was it up there that mentioned mud. Let me atum.(ooppss missed on that one)

EMPY @ 107:

Ford was not involved in Nixon's crimes, or am I incorrect?

Ford PARDONED Nixon, that's involvment enough for me.

Doggiebobo @ 115:

Wexler, you along w/Cornyer and Waxman, need to "get a life". This is I'm sure just
another "dog and pony" show by him and his com-patriots to try and persuade the
American voting public that you are doing something and should retain your respective
seats in the House/Senate. You can fool some of the people some of the time, but
you cannot fool all of the people all the time.

Here's all the legislation Wexler has introduced Wexler has introduced dating back only as far as last March(of '07).

Look before you leap.

Andy K Jong Il @ 116:

John Dean- now there's an example of redemption.

Perfect.

Why bother? He's only going to confirm what everyone already knows and in the end nothing's going to happen to Bush the Destroyer and Cheney Prince of Lies. Why waste taxpayers money.

BaScOmBe against Bitter Elitist Appeasement Bullshit @ 99:

I'm sure this won't help boosh, either.

U.S. quits as observer at UN Human Rights Council under war-crimes accusations
Submitted by meg on Mon, 06/09/2008 - 1:38pm. Alerts
A BUZZFLASH NEWS ALERT by Meg White

The White House quietly pulled out of the UN Human Rights Council as the Bush Administration came under fire by the House of Representatives for possible war crimes violations. Separately, Guantanamo Bay prosecutors prepare for their own war-crimes tribunals and secret negotiations continue over the role of the U.S. in Iraq.

In his daily briefing Friday, State Department spokesman Sean McCormack answered questions about the U.S. relinquishing its observer status in the international council. He criticized the institution as "pathetic," and "almost solely focused on bashing Israel." Though McCormack said the U.S. intends to "take a more reserved approach" in its participation, Reuters reported rumors that the U.S. will soon "disengage totally" from the council.

The 47-member council addresses human rights violations worldwide. It was created in 2006 to replace the UN Commission on Human Rights, which had been criticized for granting membership to countries with poor human rights records, such as China and Sudan. The U.S. voted against its creation and has since refused to become a seated member, though it remained an involved observer until the announcement this weekend.

The same day as the announcement from the State Department, 56 members of the House of Representatives called for an investigation into the possibility that the Bush Administration may have committed war crimes in its advocacy for more intense interrogation techniques against detainees.

War, torture, lies, death! What a legacy!!!

Many thanks for sharing
Curious? Do you think that this will get any mention whatsoever by the MSM?
I say "No/Nope/Nada/Zilch/None"

John W @ 121:

Why bother? He's only going to confirm what everyone already knows and in the end nothing's going to happen to Bush the Destroyer and Cheney Prince of Lies. Why waste taxpayers money.

Why bother? are you frickin kidding me?
Because every once and awhile lightning strikes.
Every once and a great while, our Reps get it right.
And the last time this happened, Reagan got off. BUT Nixon didn't
We have to try!

John W @ 121:

Why bother? He's only going to confirm what everyone already knows and in the end nothing's going to happen to Bush the Destroyer and Cheney Prince of Lies. Why waste taxpayers money.

It's hard for me to believe that Scottie has anything new to add to what he has already said repeatedly on at least 5 TV/Radio shows I have seen/heard. I agree
that this is probably just another "dog and pony" show..this time by Wexler, for he
cannot let Waxman and Cornyers be the only ones applying for "The Greatest Show
on Earth". Come on you intelligent voters, do you really think that anything of substance will result by holding this hearing? NOT me.

If nothing else, it will turn the pressure up on KKKarl.

Doggiebobo @ 124:

John W @ 121:

Why bother? He's only going to confirm what everyone already knows and in the end nothing's going to happen to Bush the Destroyer and Cheney Prince of Lies. Why waste taxpayers money.

It's hard for me to believe that Scottie has anything new to add to what he has already said repeatedly on at least 5 TV/Radio shows I have seen/heard. I agree
that this is probably just another "dog and pony" show..this time by Wexler, for he
cannot let Waxman and Cornyers be the only ones applying for "The Greatest Show
on Earth". Come on you intelligent voters, do you really think that anything of substance will result by holding this hearing? NOT me.

Gee. What an attitude. Let's wait and see.

mudshark @ 123:

John W @ 121:

Why bother? He's only going to confirm what everyone already knows and in the end nothing's going to happen to Bush the Destroyer and Cheney Prince of Lies. Why waste taxpayers money.

Why bother? are you frickin kidding me?
Because every once and awhile lightning strikes.
Every once and a great while, our Reps get it right.
And the last time this happened, Reagan got off. BUT Nixon didn't
We have to try!

Unlike Nixon, Bushco will serve out its term. There's no chance of conviction in the Senate if they were impeached.

But the Congressional hearings are a good thing because evidence gathered in their investigations will surely be used at their trials in Federal Court, sometime during a Democratic President's first few years.

And why ugly-up those future trials with all the hyper partisanship & politicization that the impeachment process- smack-dab in the middle of the election season!- is sure to introduce?

Andy K Jong Il @ 127:

mudshark @ 123:

John W @ 121:

Why bother? He's only going to confirm what everyone already knows and in the end nothing's going to happen to Bush the Destroyer and Cheney Prince of Lies. Why waste taxpayers money.

Why bother? are you frickin kidding me?
Because every once and awhile lightning strikes.
Every once and a great while, our Reps get it right.
And the last time this happened, Reagan got off. BUT Nixon didn't
We have to try!

Unlike Nixon, Bushco will serve out its term. There's no chance of conviction in the Senate if they were impeached.

But the Congressional hearings are a good thing because evidence gathered in their investigations will surely be used at their trials in Federal Court, sometime during a Democratic President's first few years.

And why ugly-up those future trials with all the hyper partisanship & politicization that the impeachment process- smack-dab in the middle of the election season!- is sure to introduce?

It's all about timing Andy.

Great, now I can't get the theme to Dragnet out of my head.

“The earth-shattering admissions..." Hahahahahaha! What a bunch of crap. Nothing is going to happen to any of these people. They are all going to retire to ranches or exclusive country club communities. Quick look busy, the boss might be watching. Hahahahaha! I can't wait for them to.....do nothing as usual.

And the tiny crack in the dam grows a little wider.

A fictitious dam holding water that never existed. There is no spoon.

I kind of wonder, was Hillary's presumed inevitability that made Pelosi take impeachment of the table?

You have to admit it would have been an extremely sticky situation(no pun intended, okay maybe a little) to try and have impeachment preceedings going on and at the same time trying to get Clinton into the White House. Now that that burden is off, and with McClellon coming forward, maybe there is room to be optimistic this time around.

Jo @ 126:

Doggiebobo @ 124:

John W @ 121:

Why bother? He's only going to confirm what everyone already knows and in the end nothing's going to happen to Bush the Destroyer and Cheney Prince of Lies. Why waste taxpayers money.

It's hard for me to believe that Scottie has anything new to add to what he has already said repeatedly on at least 5 TV/Radio shows I have seen/heard. I agree
that this is probably just another "dog and pony" show..this time by Wexler, for he
cannot let Waxman and Cornyers be the only ones applying for "The Greatest Show
on Earth". Come on you intelligent voters, do you really think that anything of substance will result by holding this hearing? NOT me.

Gee. What an attitude. Let's wait and see.

It's not an "attitude" thing...It is fact. I have watched for the past 7 plus months
the committee hearing on CSPAN held by both Cornyers and Waxman and neither of
them has accomplished anything whatsoever. Well, that is not exactly a fair statement; both have sent strongly worded, harsh and threatening letters to Harriet
Miers, J. Bolten, and to the DoJ...Wow, now that really got some kind of action; such
as "Hey, fuck off you guys, we have no intent or reason to give either of you clowns
any testimony under oath". That's not an attitude I have, but facts that the bunch
of current elected officials in our Congress are inept and a disgrace.

Hey here's an idea: let the truth come out and NOT impeach, then let Bush and Cheney know that once their terms of office are complete, they WILL be hauled off to the International Criminal Court on warcrimes, and they WILL face civil wrongful death suits from each and every one of the families of the over 4000 war dead, and they WILL face wrongful death suits for the hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis.

Then let's see them squirm!

Jo @ 96:

Richard @ 88:

karl @ 81:

Abbybwood @ 78:
can't sell any books with that attitude scott

McClellan has already said he would appear. House etiquette is to invite witnesses unless they say they won't appear (in which case they are subpoenaed) or they say that they would prefer to be subpoenaed. In any case, much ado about nothing. He won't say anything different than what is in his book. Saying it again doesn't make it any more or less truthful or any more or less important.

But it will be under oath. Makes it more important. Makes it part of the record.

I've got my popcorn at the ready and await the rundown here on C&L after all is said and done.

Richard @ 135:

EMPY @ 100:

Question for any Constitutional Lawyers out there.

If it is proven that Bush was involved in this leak and it's cover-up/obstruction. What does that do to Libby's pardon? The President cannot pardon for crimes he was involved in is the only exception to his pardon power, or so I thought.

Could Scooter's pardon be taken away?

Wiki on Scooter and his legal situation.

thismachinekillsfascists @ 136:

Hey here's an idea: let the truth come out and NOT impeach, then let Bush and Cheney know that once their terms of office are complete, they WILL be hauled off to the International Criminal Court on warcrimes, and they WILL face civil wrongful death suits from each and every one of the families of the over 4000 war dead, and they WILL face wrongful death suits for the hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis.

Then let's see them squirm!

Suggest your read #99 above and then see if you feel the same as to pursuing
war crimes against that bunch of turds...We(US) are not a member and do not
recognize the Internation Criminal Court.

EMPY @ 100:

Question for any Constitutional Lawyers out there.

If it is proven that Bush was involved in this leak and it's cover-up/obstruction. What does that do to Libby's pardon? The President cannot pardon for crimes he was involved in is the only exception to his pardon power, or so I thought.

Could Scooter's pardon be taken away?

No. There are no exceptions to the President's pardon policy. And the courts don't have jurisdiction to reconsider a Presidential pardon or take any action to revoke a Presidential pardon.

Andy K Jong Il @ 21:

Damn! I'm gonna haveta pull a double on the 19th so I can watch this live! Should be a lot better than last year's "I don't remember/recall-fest" with Samson, Goodling and Gonzo. Whoopee!

I'm glad I'm officially on summer break as of today (which means working from home for me).

June 20 is now a holiday in our house. Food, beer and CSPAN all day! This is gonna be better than Superbowl Sunday and the Indy 500 all rolled into one. I have a feeling that Scotty was only just warming up....

Richard @ 141:

Richard @ 135:

EMPY @ 100:

Question for any Constitutional Lawyers out there.

If it is proven that Bush was involved in this leak and it's cover-up/obstruction. What does that do to Libby's pardon? The President cannot pardon for crimes he was involved in is the only exception to his pardon power, or so I thought.

Could Scooter's pardon be taken away?

No. There are no exceptions to the President's pardon policy. And the courts don't have jurisdiction to reconsider a Presidential pardon or take any action to revoke a Presidential pardon.

this is why congress has the power to impeach (sigh)

Richard @ 141:

EMPY @ 100:

Question for any Constitutional Lawyers out there.

If it is proven that Bush was involved in this leak and it's cover-up/obstruction. What does that do to Libby's pardon? The President cannot pardon for crimes he was involved in is the only exception to his pardon power, or so I thought.

Could Scooter's pardon be taken away?

No. There are no exceptions to the President's pardon policy. And the courts don't have jurisdiction to reconsider a Presidential pardon or take any action to revoke a Presidential pardon.

Also LIbby wasn't pardoned. His prison sentence was commuted. Bush could still pardon him before leaving office.

Richard @ 143:

Richard @ 141:

EMPY @ 100:

Question for any Constitutional Lawyers out there.

If it is proven that Bush was involved in this leak and it's cover-up/obstruction. What does that do to Libby's pardon? The President cannot pardon for crimes he was involved in is the only exception to his pardon power, or so I thought.

Could Scooter's pardon be taken away?

No. There are no exceptions to the President's pardon policy. And the courts don't have jurisdiction to reconsider a Presidential pardon or take any action to revoke a Presidential pardon.

Also LIbby wasn't pardoned. His prison sentence was commuted. Bush could still pardon him before leaving office.

Could? If I had a farm, I would bet it that he's going to give him a full pardon.

Great!, I was counting on this to happen, somebody pinch me, (rove)" workin on the chain gang", oh yea.-CEO

Howdy Folks,

“Scott McClellan must appear before Congress and tell the American people, under oath, how the Bush Administration not only obstructed justice during the Valerie Plame investigation but orchestrated a massive propaganda campaign to sell an unnecessary war in Iraq to the American people."

Enter Congressman Robert Wexler (D-FL).

"The earth-shattering admissions made by Scott McClellan in his new book warrant a sober and thorough hearing in the House Judiciary Committee and he should immediately accept the Committee’s request for his testimony,” said Congressman Wexler. “The allegations made by McClellan that Karl Rove, Scooter Libby, and possibly even Vice President Dick Cheney, together conspired to obstruct justice by lying about their role in the Plame case relates directly to the core of US executive power and the Constitution. If true, the allegations made by McClellan could amount to an obstruction of justice charge for Scooter Libby and Karl Rove."

Troubled

Dr. (terrorist fist jab) Matt @ 144:

Richard @ 143:

Richard @ 141:

EMPY @ 100:

No. There are no exceptions to the President's pardon policy. And the courts don't have jurisdiction to reconsider a Presidential pardon or take any action to revoke a Presidential pardon.

Also LIbby wasn't pardoned. His prison sentence was commuted. Bush could still pardon him before leaving office.

Could? If I had a farm, I would bet it that he's going to give him a full pardon.

I agree with you. Highly likely he will.

Troubled Texan @ 146:

Howdy Folks,

“Scott McClellan must appear before Congress and tell the American people, under oath, how the Bush Administration not only obstructed justice during the Valerie Plame investigation but orchestrated a massive propaganda campaign to sell an unnecessary war in Iraq to the American people."

Enter Congressman Robert Wexler (D-FL).

"The earth-shattering admissions made by Scott McClellan in his new book warrant a sober and thorough hearing in the House Judiciary Committee and he should immediately accept the Committee’s request for his testimony,” said Congressman Wexler. “The allegations made by McClellan that Karl Rove, Scooter Libby, and possibly even Vice President Dick Cheney, together conspired to obstruct justice by lying about their role in the Plame case relates directly to the core of US executive power and the Constitution. If true, the allegations made by McClellan could amount to an obstruction of justice charge for Scooter Libby and Karl Rove."

Well since Libby was already tried and convicted of obstruction of justice, he can't be charge again and tried again. And, of course, Congress can't try anybody on criminal charges. The real question is whether McClellan's charges are sufficient for Fitzgerald to reopen his investigation.

Great -- they finally summoned someone who might actually show up. Where's Rove?

Kucinich is presenting 35 articles of impeachment right now. http://c-span.org

If the Dems were not in on it I would have hope but as we all know NOTHING will happen

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