Obama's money advantage really has the Beltway Villagers very upset. David Broder comes out and blasts Obama in behalf of his pal John McCain in his new column. Chris Cillizza thinks Broder is EF Hutton so you'd all better listen.

The Dean of the political press corps, Broder has been setting conventional wisdom in campaigns for longer than The Fix has been on earth.

Broder relishes his role of setting the political agenda for our country because to the media----David Broder is their sage, their medicine man---the wise man of all wise men---the clairvoyant that must be heard and obeyed.

David Broder:

"McCain benefits from a long-established reputation as a man who says what he believes," writes Broder. "His shifts in position that have occurred in this campaign seem not to have damaged that aura. Obama is much newer to most voters, less familiar and more dependent on the impressions he is only now creating."

McCain's aura hasn't been damaged because the beltway gasbags protect their hero. It's that simple. Did Broder talk about McCain's campaign financing problems? Do they report on all his many flip flops in endless loops that wind up dominating the Sunday Talk Shows? Nope, so how will people know what's actually going on if the media puts up their Star Trek force field around their man?

Many of you know I was completely against the idea that Obama should meet McCain in a series of Town Halls. For one thing the TH's can only help McCain. There is no upside for Obama. He can fumble an answer and get looped on the media for days and days.

(Check out the above video to understand why McCain wants to do a series of Town Halls.) Also, the two are so strikingly different that it would water down the stark contrasts between them when the all important presidential debates play out. Then the polls will really be interesting. So---as a winning strategy it would be a mistake for Obama to agree to them. Broder disagrees:

Obama supporters note that town halls are McCain's favorite campaign settings, so it's no surprise he prefers them to formal speeches, where Obama excels. They point out that public financing helps McCain, who has lagged all year in his private fundraising, while it would inhibit Obama, who has tapped into a rich vein of small contributors using the Internet.

But it's also the case that the multiple joint town meetings McCain proposed would be a real service to the public and that suspending the dollar chase for the duration of the campaign, as McCain but not Obama will do, would be a major step toward establishing the credibility of the election process.

By refusing to join McCain in these initiatives in order to protect his own interests, Obama raises an important question: Has he built sufficient trust so that his motives will be accepted by the voters who are only now starting to figure out what makes him tick

In other words, Obama---how dare you refuse a request by the Media's Maverick? Broder is worried about the election process now? It's laughable. Why isn't he on top of voter fraud? Hey David, why don't you write a major column on the Indiana Voter ID/roll purging decision by the Supreme Court? When Republicans held a solid lead in raising money it was viewed as the way things were. Now, since Obama has an online juggernaut, he can't be trusted.

Email David at davidbroder@washpost.com and ask him to hold McCain accountable for a change.

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It MIGHT even be better for Obama if McSame does his town hall meetings BY HIMSELF... as long at the MSM would report on them.

While I understand that giving the McCain campaign any air at all is not strategically necessary for Obama, still I would enjoy seeing them debate at least once. I'm fairly sure it will be like the Nixon-Kennedy debate, but in color.

dumb fucking white guys, generally wank.

So what happened to "personal responsibility?" That's must be just for folks like us.

I guess this really says it all.... the very wealthy are not about to waste the money earned from the job their dad gave them on McSame.

This is too funny. Broder has no credibility. He is paid by big Health care. Who listens to him? Only the far right. Do you think I care what Broder thinks.

If they had town hall meetings. A liar is hard to beat in a republican led media. I could not support a looser like John MC Coward when he surrendered and became a POW, hero's fight to the death. To show how brave he is John like bush will get 5,000 more young Americans killed for big oil

Some are saying, McCain's people are working out a contract with Nash McCabe to act as a "plant" at each town hall meeting.

To hell with McLiar. Tell him to quit lying and then just maybe Obama will do a debate or three.

Its about time that Obama starts dictating how things are going to go in this election. Fuck McGrandpa.

broder trying to tell people how they should think....obama will decide how he wants to debate mcBlame. don't forget that mcBlame has been the presumptive R candidate for some time....let barack breath alittle..........don't tell us to worry or panic because you are.

"Broder has been setting conventional wisdom in campaigns... "

Maybe, but I think he's got about the same percentage for accuracy as Kristol does.

Somewhere right around 0.0%...

Absolutely no upside for Obama in falling for these "Town Hall" meetings, particularly given the way McCain stacked the audience in his last appearance or the absurd type of questions thrown by the likes of ABC. If Obama just keeps his mouth shut the MSM and their bloviators have to re-dredge the crap they've been going over for weeks (what HAS Rev. Wright been up to lately) and the public has pretty much given all that the heave-ho already. McCain will continue to get covered for any gaffes he makes so there's not much of a chance for the Obama campaign to get anything useful from them. Just stay away.

These right wing sons of bitches are trying to run Obama into a corner. Why the hell didn't Obama set these lying jerks straight on the campaign money thing? Obama is in the driver's seat and he should act like it.

The biggest problem with Town Hall meetings is that there is little control over WHO asks the question and WHO the questioner really is...and who knows what kind of insane question someone might ask Obama.

Anybody remember the Fox idiot's kid asking questions a few months ago? They'd be throwing ringers into the mix at every turn...kind of like last week's meeting where the actual attendees were really "invited" Republicans and supporters of McCain, and not the Independents they advertised. (Even Fox News had to admit it was a sham)

I believe that there is no visual forum where Obama doesn't shine above The Manchurian Candidate. In speeches he is a world apart from the robot. But John McCain's supposed Town Hall superiority is entirely predicated on his performance before handpicked, partisan participants.
Should the two meet in an actually neutral setting Obama's natural speaking ability (AND the fact that most Americans actually agree with his positions) would find him performing much better than the Anger-Bot.
The only reasons to avoid the Town Hall Meetings is that when you're ahead you shouldn't take any risks at all.
But by taking the safe route Obama only gives the Corporate Media a hammer to bludgeon him with. We know that they are already in McCain's corner.

He's gotta do "some" townhalls,otherwise he'll get nailed for being evasive.Obama had better take the lead in the conversation otherwise,get McCranky into "I despise Romney" kranky level.People aren't too fond of the snippy kranky McCranky

Attila the Trollop, King of Beer, Second to None @ 7:

Some are saying, McCain's people are working out a contract with Nash McCabe to act as a "plant" at each town hall meeting.

No doubt and Larry Sinclair who they paid over $10,000 to lie for them.

I stop listening to MSM wankers along time ago about the same time I heard compassionate conservatives and family values coming out of the rethugs mouths
the msm is finding it's not being listened to much like granpas talking about when wearing onions were once the fashion statement of the time

no apostrophe. not possessive nor a contraction. course i failed high school english.

Geno @ 13 says:

"The biggest problem with Town Hall meetings is that there is little control over WHO asks the question and WHO the questioner really is…and who knows what kind of insane question someone might ask Obama.

Anybody remember the Fox idiot’s kid asking questions a few months ago? They’d be throwing ringers into the mix at every turn…kind of like last week’s meeting where the actual attendees were really “invited” Republicans and supporters of McCain, and not the Independents they advertised. (Even Fox News had to admit it was a sham)"

You are quite right.
I suggest that oppo research be deployed on every audience member at the Yown Hall Shams.
I would love for this to happen:
Questioner: ' I want you to prove to me that you aren't a secret muslim, who will turn our nation over to the terrorists!'
Obama: 'Well, Sir, as you would know, if your Father's employers at Rupert Murdoch's Wall Street Journal would tell you, a person cannot prove a negative. No matter how absurd. How is your Father dooing by the way? I understand that he recently got a promotion to assistant editor. Was that where you got your offensive and stupid question?'

Obama should agree to the debates provided that the debates are organized and executed by the League of Women Voters. McC**t's handlers will not allow that; they'll want a corporomedia circus for the purpose of Obama's public execution. The Right cannot win a fair debate; years of their "policies" have proven that they are, clearly, wrong on everything.

Mark my words,McCain will have an "episode" during some event,and be lead out in a straight jacket.He is so close to snapping it's not funny.

McSame just wants town halls with Obama to get more people than he can attract in one place to listen to his message. McSame has no juice when it comes to attracting anywhere near the crowds that show up consistantly to hear Obama. McSame does not have th money to get hi message out to the mass amount of people like Obama can. So it seems as though McSame needs these much more than Obama. perhaps Obama should somehow pony up some cash by having his campaign split the cost of putting these shows on. Do you think the straight talk express would be so eager to have so many events when they actually have to spend the cash they lack to make it happen.
on the other hand, it would be pretty damn cool to see Obama get the newer mellower McSame all pissed off by calling out each and every flip flop and mistaken statement and opinion saint McSame has made in the past few months. the sight of a cool calm and focused younger man against the pissed off and stammering older man that has changed position so many times lately, i am sure he would not know which was the current position if actually pressed on the spot.

Anything that gets the panties of republicons in a knot is cool with me...

I'm sure most Americans would say, "Who's David Broder? I've never heard of him"

Does anyone else think David Broder looks sort of funny?

Obama has to go into these debates with his eye on the ball. Every question he answers has to come back to McDipshit being a flip flopper and a liar. On every issue McCan't has changed his position except the war. McGrandpa can't even remember the players in the war. Forget the questions asked and hammer McShame on his senility.

OT--

Interesting 60 Minutes tonight on half-BILLION tax dollars spent for BushCo's Mideast propaganda channel Al-Hurra to counter Al-Jazeera:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/06/19/60minutes/main4196477.shtml

@24 "Does anyone else think David Broder looks sort of funny?"

Yeah, he sorta looks/acts like McNugget's drunken brother.

David Broder looks like Erich Honecker.

My wife, who has an eye for such things, believes that McManchurian Candidate is insane.
She says that she can see it especially well whe he tries to smile.
I'd love to see the Corporate Media try to cover up a Town Hall Breakdown.

Broder reminds me of a character from the 70's horror classic "Night of the Living Dead." Everything he utters in 2008 must be thoroughly disregarded because it emanates from a graveyard. Talking heads like him are stuck in a political landscape that no longer exits.

David Broder and George Will and Bill Kristol Jr. and Rove and Hannity and O'Reilly and all of their friends firmly believe they are God. I firmly believe they are full of it.

Regular people, middle America, Joe Sixpack and Betty Winebox have no idea who David Broder is. And they don't give a shit about him. If they wanted to find out they would find that Broder is trying to help the bog health conglomerates make more and more money on the backs of working people. He has no credibility.

Albatross @ 2:

While I understand that giving the McCain campaign any air at all is not strategically necessary for Obama, still I would enjoy seeing them debate at least once. I'm fairly sure it will be like the Nixon-Kennedy debate, but in color.

There will still be debates, just not in the townhall format.

HA! HA!

@30 "Broder reminds me of a character from the 70’s horror classic “Night of the Living Dead.” Everything he utters in 2008 must be thoroughly disregarded because it emanates from a graveyard. Talking heads like him are stuck in a political landscape that no longer exits."
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LOL... how true!

I just finished watching The Mclaughlin Group and Pat Buchanan was having an aneurism over not drilling in Anwar and actually said, "I blame the environmentalists, with their beads, running around causing trouble!"

LOL....OMFG....I wonder if David Broder & Pat Buchanan still look for Archie Bunker on CBS?

Joe Scar is the new Pat Buchanan.

I refuse to pay any attention to David Broder. He personifies the Playboy's Unabashed Dictionary definition of the word "pundit": One who's so well-paid to say "So what?" while so often wrong about so many things.

"There is no upside for Obama. He can fumble an answer and get looped on the media for days and days".

You have it partially right. You would be correct to say "He will fumble an answer". This is precisely why Barry Ballless refused to debate Clinton.

Who the hell cares what the talking heads and Main Stream Media wank-artists are saying, anyway? People who matter get their ideas and opinions from The Onion, Jon Stewart, and Steven Colbert!

"My wife, who has an eye for such things, believes that McManchurian Candidate is insane.
She says that she can see it especially well whe he tries to smile.
I’d love to see the Corporate Media try to cover up a Town Hall Breakdown."

McCain does look like Former Chief Inspector Drefus doesn't he!?! Maybe he has a punching bag of Obama as well.

The first guy looks like one of those zombies from the original Night of the Living Dead.

trevor-es @ 28:

David Broder looks like Erich Honecker.

Yeah, sort of

Except the ladies liked Onkel Erich's style.

No sense in having Town Hall meetings when you know that non-issue questions are going to be planted in the audience by the McNugget campaign.

Attila the Trollop, King of Beer, Second to None @ 42:

trevor-es @ 28:

David Broder looks like Erich Honecker.

Yeah, sort of

Except the ladies liked Onkel Erich's style.

Considering Honecker was the stupidest leader of a stupid bunch (the Warsaw Pact leaders), that's hardly a good thing.

I recall Bush trying for as little as possible in the way of debates in 2000 and 2004, largely because it was blatantly unfair for him to debate people who were smarter. At one point his campaign suggested that all questions submitted had to be either multiple choice or true and false. And there is evidence from his bizarre behavior and bulging coat that he was wired.

Obama has agreed to five debates, which is more than have been held since the seven Lincoln-Douglas debates of 1858.

no town halls

real debates, held in front of a few lowly, non network newspeople

no audience

no questions from the peanut gallery

end of story

but mcoldfart doesnt come off well in town halls....check the vid of him molesting a 14 year old girl and getting a huge hardon when he does it

Problem for McCain is, if Obama doesn't show up for the rigged "just folks" meetings stuffed with McCain supporters, then everybody will fall asleep listening to McCain drone on about taxes taxes, liberal liberal, Hanoi Hilton jokes and other boring crap.

Without Obama around, who'd want to spend two hours with John McCain?

Captain Obama’s Bitter Half Husein Kangaroo @ 9:

Its about time that Obama starts dictating how things are going to go in this election. Fuck McGrandpa.

Absolutely correct. He NEEDS to debate Obama.. He can barely get anyone to show up at his events.. Obama will handle him well enough. All those pundits saying McSame does well in town hall meeting makes me laugh.. HE IS AWFUL!!!!!!..and ... he doesn't have anyone challenging him. He just paces up and down the stage, pumping his fist and repeating OVER AND OVER again..'MY FRIENDS"... drives me crazy!!!!!!!

If Broder criticizes Obama for the campaign money and for the town halls, then I am firmly convinced Obama is correct. I agree with Dr. Spock. It doesn't matter what happens because McCain is not going to make it through the election cycle. He'll either have a "stroke" or a "heart attack" (wink, wink) when his numbers plummet to very, very low levels.

McNugget--I love it.

That Fox segment proves exactly the opposite: Obama would kick McCain's behind. And, besides, nobody watches fox except for wingnuts and liberals obsessed with their rotten, absurdly slanted coverage.

I probably would have used the Cone of Silence from "Get Smart" instead of Star Trek Forcefield.

Well "Get Smart" is a current hit at the theaters.

If I were Obama, I think I'd be all for it...on 3 conditions.

(1) The townhall participants have to be voters in the city/town where they take place.
(2) Each side gets to choose, by invite, an equal number of participants, maybe 50 or 100.
(3) Each side only gets to ask questions of the opposing candidate. No softball questions.

I'm betting McSame strokes out on the 3rd question.

The only way this would work is if the moderator would be able to throw out leading and accusative questions. Is there somebody with enough savvy and guts to do this, or will there be the usual disgusting inanity?

No matter what the format Obama is going to appear as if he's beating up on an old man, and abuse of the elderly (even verbal) is a crime in most states. Wouldn't it be ironic if Obama were arrested after one of these so-called debates and charged with elder-abuse?

It's kind of sad when you have to urge a candidate to avoid debates because they might "fumble".

Great leaders don't fumble.
They speak their minds and let the chips fall where they may.

I guess I don't see the logic in NOT going to the town hall meetings. Obama is clearly the better speaker, is better on his feet ... I don't get it. Avoiding them makes him look weak. Hell, take Mc. on....

broder and the rest of these talking ass hats have done so much lying I don't know why anyone bothers with them any more.
I quit watching or caring what these fools say back in 2003 when it was evident that they were all lying and carring water for bush/chenny and the rest of the military industrial complex!
I consider them to all be traitors. I don't even consider them to human anymore!

Bill Kristol says the McCain campaign told him "off the record...", so what does he do? blab it on FOX

Anyone running for president owes it to the American people to debate the opponent so that their opposing views in how they intend to run the government can be compared.

Strategically I suppose calling for, or backing away from, is in the best interest of the candidate but this is just short changing the public whose votes they crave.

I prefer seeing them under stress and judging who well or ill prepared they happen to be.

With the gazillions of dollars being sent and spent in these elections the voters are getting short sheeted. Having to depend upon sound bites and net sites to judge a candidate leaves a lot to be desired.

Amato says,

"He can fumble an answer and get looped on the media for days and days."

Boy, if that isn't the pot calling the kettle black.

That is the Modus Operandi of this site

"You really are a funny guy"

mr.ed @ 54:

The only way this would work is if the moderator would be able to throw out leading and accusative questions. Is there somebody with enough savvy and guts to do this, or will there be the usual disgusting inanity?

How about Amy Goodman?

Whatta Joke @ 61:

Amato says,

"He can fumble an answer and get looped on the media for days and days."

Boy, if that isn't the pot calling the kettle black.

That is the Modus Operandi of this site

"You really are a funny guy"

Ad hominem.

The argument “pot calling the kettle black” is fallacious. It asserts that John Amato is analogous to large corporate media conglomerates. The difference is that blogs represent democratic principles in practice by giving people a voice and a forum for discussion. ‘The Media’ is merely an extension of popular economic trends. The number of such forums is directly representative of the amount of interest in either one of the opposing ideological sides, like the market.

Do they report on all his many flip flops in endless loops that wind up dominating the Sunday Talk Shows?

I read a piece (at HuffPo?) that was dissecting the media treatment Kerry got vs. what Bush got. It actually blamed Kerry for the endless loop of his "elitism" and "flip-flopping" by stating "Another mistake was when Kerry decided to go sailboarding, which brought an image to mind of his shifting political stances".

They honestly believe the problem is not the right-wing narrative/endless loop. It's that Kerry "decided" to go sailboarding. God help us!

el-mano @ 63:

Whatta Joke @ 61:

Amato says,

"He can fumble an answer and get looped on the media for days and days."

Boy, if that isn't the pot calling the kettle black.

That is the Modus Operandi of this site

"You really are a funny guy"

Ad hominem.

The argument “pot calling the kettle black” is fallacious. It asserts that John Amato is analogous to large corporate media conglomerates. The difference is that blogs represent democratic principles in practice by giving people a voice and a forum for discussion. ‘The Media’ is merely an extension of popular economic trends. The number of such forums is directly representative of the amount of interest in either one of the opposing ideological sides, like the market.

I wonder if 'what a joke' gets points don McCain's camp for trolling...hehe

Gee -- I wonder if Broder is a Zionist?

They are getting desperate -- very very desperate.

Yeah, John McCain is most probably suffering from all sorts of mental illnesses. The years of imprisonment aren't an asset in some patriotism battle, they are the reason Mr. McCain should have been given a lot more psychiatric attention than i'm sure he has gotten. If his stories of torture are true, i don't trust him to be making consistently rational & wise decisions in his private life without the support of family & a team of therapeutic professionals. That the coping strategy he has built for himself involves seeking political office raises some disturbing questions about how he internalized his torture.

I put this old spent gasbag in the same class as novak.....if you don't know where he's coming from by now, you never will.

Who gives a rat's ass what this old fart has to say on anything...unless you are a reich wing neocon....it means nada.

This old geezer has overstayed his usefulness on the airwaves. Get a pole and go fishing, ya washed up old fart.

Bullet-headed wanker dweeb. I mean, seriously - WHO IS David Broder? What's more, should I care?

seriously @ 57:

I guess I don't see the logic in NOT going to the town hall meetings. Obama is clearly the better speaker, is better on his feet ... I don't get it. Avoiding them makes him look weak. Hell, take Mc. on....

Pat J @ 60:

Anyone running for president owes it to the American people to debate the opponent so that their opposing views in how they intend to run the government can be compared.

Strategically I suppose calling for, or backing away from, is in the best interest of the candidate but this is just short changing the public whose votes they crave.

I prefer seeing them under stress and judging who well or ill prepared they happen to be.

With the gazillions of dollars being sent and spent in these elections the voters are getting short sheeted. Having to depend upon sound bites and net sites to judge a candidate leaves a lot to be desired.

The issue is the format: There will be plenty of traditional debates, just not the ones McCain wants.

McCain wants townhall debates with an audience hand picked by Karl Rove. His townhall events are a set-up: packed to the rafters with "Average Americans" who just happen to all be republicans, wingnuts, racists, McCain worshippers like Broder, and the 26% who think Bush is the greatest president who ever lived. Occasionally a real person will get through but there's always some members of the local "Young Republicans" around to bounce them out. Of course, McCain still screws up, and then the media has to covers for him.

It would be the ABC Sham "Debate" all over again. Softballs for McCain (First questioner? Jeff Gannon!) and nothing but "Gotcha!" for Obama.

You can't trust Republicans, plain and simple - they're masters at lies and manipulation and have no conscience. Just like Public Finance, Obama is right to refuse them. They rig everything then whine like babies when you don't fall for their traps - just like Broder is doing here and the Republicans and their media enablers did all day long on the morning political shows.

They'll be throwing everything they can dig up, rig up, or make up at Obama because they're scared shitless. As long as Obama keeps going with his instincts instead of listening to the media and the right wing, he'll be just fine.

I thought it was a bad idea for Obama to do town halls as well. Why agree to do something that makes McCain that feels comfortable to him? McCain can only dream of getting the kind of crowds Obama gets and Obama will do just fine in a debate.

Scott @ 71:

I thought it was a bad idea for Obama to do town halls as well. Why agree to do something that makes McCain that feels comfortable to him? McCain can only dream of getting the kind of crowds Obama gets and Obama will do just fine in a debate.

McCain's only comfortable when it's his supporters asking the questions. Every time a he gets asked a real question he melts down and his BBQ buddies in the media have to make sure the footage never gets out.

Any debate MUST be LIVE and the moderators MUST be agreed to by BOTH parties - otherwise no dice.

I don't think Obama needs these town halls , on the other hand it seems to me that he has all "the ammo" and that he would clean house with McCain dim bulb that he is these days . The main thing would be that the Obama camp make damn sure the moderators are straight up and not right wing hacks like we've seen before .

No way would I accept if the questions come from the audience , without a doubt the Repugs would stack the deck and the audience would be Republican operatives and plants with preassigned questions and comments .

I still think Obama would eat McCain alive in ANY debate, bar none. The McCain camp took a chance, figuring Obama would turn it down so they could jump on it. Turning it down may have been the smart, safe option - but Obama is very good verbally, and very well prepared, he'd have killed him. I would have LOVED to see him do them too - to dispel all the stupid wingnut accusations of him not being able to do anything without a teleprompter.

I was reading the comments in response to broder's column, and I bet every batshit crazy nutter on the planet had posted there

most of them didn't even mention broder. just posted rabid screeds against Barack Obama

I'll bet those are the posts that broder saves

the other 90% of the comments that point out broder's hypocrisy and ignorance, broder ignores those

“His shifts in position that have occurred in this campaign seem not to have damaged that aura. Obama is much newer to most voters, less familiar and more dependent on the impressions he is only now creating.”

Soooo it's OK for McBush to lie out both sides of his mouth because he has been doing it for much longer than Obama. That sounds like repig logic to me. It's a wonderful justification that should be repeated every time McBushsuker does a 180 degree turn on his position. And if Obama decides to reverse course we will call that a "flip-flop", or waffling. We can even get Sean Spammity to have a parade with a big waffle headed Obama.

When are Americans going to wake up and realize that politics isn't a football game? These aren't teams to cheer for, this is our fucking future, people. It doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things who wins the super bowl, but your children's lives and the fate of the world depend on who wins the presidency.

Just get the hell over it. It is not illegal what he has done, but something very positive on the up side.

He is proving beyond any doubt, just how much American people support what he stands for.

What he is doing, is showing us that he wants to be accountable to the American people for a change, and not corporate America.

Can we not see this?

"wanks away" Not sure i want to play this one :)

Why do you nutroots lefties have such a love affair with the words "wanks," "wanker," etc.? Do you think it's the height of British or European subtle comedic wit? I saw the headline on Memeorandum, and for about 3 seconds I thought someone caught Broder actually jerking off in a Town Meeting.

It's funny that NeoCons are up in arms over Obama refusing public funding for his campaign. Hello right wing America. It's "taxpayer money" that Obama is refusing. What exactly is wrong with funding your own campaign through the millions of little people instead of taking taxpayer money and then letting your 527s do all of the negative campaigning on your behalf? Myself, I'm more than a little pleased to see the little man have a say in national elections again.

Broder reminds me why I despise the intectually corrupt.

David Broder reminds me why I find the intellectually corrupt and dishonest to be so despicable. That he is willfully so only diminishes my regard for him all the more.

As far as the town hall meetings go, all Obama has to do is mention how McCain's last town hall meeting was filled with McCain campaign ringers. Here's an idea for Obama on how to meet McCain's request and turn the tables on him. Suggest town hall meetings where McCain gets to choose half of the people and Obama the other half.

So I have read all the comments --- and it looks like this to me obama-good; McCain-bad. Did I miss something? This is no longer Crooks&Liars to me -- it is just obama/08. OK, so now you are flying your true colours and don't have to pretend to be fair with Hillary. FINE.. But I ask you this obama fan club, how the devil is the guy gonna win this election if he doen't debate his opponent? He cannot be afraid? He is too talented and smart to make a great big fuck-up...so what is all the fear and worry about? We are talking about McCain who is not that smooth at his best. So what is it? Did his reversal on public financing give you pause? Are there more folk to be put under the obama-bus? Is there another uncle/greatuncle to save the Jews in Europe we've yet to hear about? I mean I don't get it??? Axelrod and obama and Dean and Democratic party leadership have taken the election away and are running to victory with it, yet here on this site I am picking up something very odd in attitude. Maybe if your guy really made nice with the Clintons and.....oh wait, he is above that and who needs all those old women and gay people anyway, and working folk? ALL HAIL THE UNITER and his so lovely fan club

Don't let Obambi out into the real world, with real citizens asking real questions. Might blow his new image. This is laughable. This guy can't participate in a Town Hall type debate because he'll look bad. Do you Obama supporters realize how ridiculous this sounds? How unready this man is to be President. This is the biggest con job in american presidential politics. Even bigger than the GWB con.

Yeah, I saw this - Broder is the 'dean' of idiot pundits.

What was fun was watching Donna Brazille on This Week - the others were wanking away about Obama's (breaking his word, flip-flopping, backing out of his promise - chose one) on public funding, the public can't trust him, blah, blah. Donna just sat there with this little smile on her face. When they finally got around to her, she pointed out that since the average donation to Obama is under $100, dropping out of public financing is not exactly caving to special interests, and it saves $84 million in taxpayer dollars. The bald guy actually sputtered.

I've come to the conclusion that the media lords dislike Obama because they didn't annoint him - because he has the nerve to go out and do this a state, a speech, a factory visit at a time. They didn't spot him before anyone else, therefore he cannot be the right one, because if he was they would have known if before anyone else.

Obama did offer to do on town hall with McCain - along with a couple of real debates. The McCain campaign turned it down.

What's the big deal with Town Hall Meeting/Debates? Personally I don't put too much stock in these get togethers. It was said and later proven that the Town Hall gatherings were a "put up job".

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