James Dobson says Obama has a 'fruitcake' view of the Constitution
By John Amato Monday Jun 23, 2008 2:00pm
As Barack Obama broadens his outreach to evangelical voters, one of the movement's biggest names, James Dobson, accuses the likely Democratic presidential nominee of distorting the Bible and pushing a "fruitcake interpretation" of the Constitution.
The criticism, to be aired Tuesday on Dobson's Focus on the Family radio program, comes shortly after an Obama aide suggested a meeting at the organization's headquarters here, said Tom Minnery, senior vice president for government and public policy at Focus on the Family...read on
OK, anyone see the absurdity of this statement?
"I think he's deliberately distorting the traditional understanding of the Bible to fit his own worldview, his own confused theology," Dobson said.
I'm not going to even comment on his own distortions, but I will say that he's just trying to get his flock motivated a little bit. And notice that he calls Obama's interpretation of the Constitution, "fruitcake." We know how he feels about gay marriage. See any connection there? The discredited conservatives like Rove are trying to paint Obama this way too:
"He's the guy at the country club with the beautiful date, holding a martini and a cigarette that stands against the wall and makes snide comments about everyone who passes by."
As Digby says:
It's very clever to add in the country club and martini imagery, even though it's patently absurd. Gives it a nice sort of cover to what he's saying. After all, conservatives can't just come right out and call someone an Uppity Negro these days.
Now Dobson adds "fruitcake." to their mix. It's all in the imagery. (h/t Becca)
UPDATE: Our friends at Americans United for the Separation of Church and State wrote in to say Dobson's "Alliance Defense Fund" is encouraging pastors to deliberately break the law and engage in politicking at church services during a pre-arranged "Pulpit Freedom Sunday" scheduled for September 28. [Memo to the IRS you'll be working that weekend.]
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Well, fruitcake is something Dobson should know about!
FRIST!
Dobson should STFU when it comes to "fruitcakes"
Obama shoots! Obama scores! Dobson's head explodes!
James Dobson - the Jeremiah Wright of the right.
Reuters identified him as a Christian leader - a double mistake since he's neither a Christian nor a leader worthy of being quoted by anyone other than other whackos.
Oh man, coming from a violently insane Christian fascist who hates everything the United States stands for, that's ironic. I used to work inside the Christofascist extremist cult's business offices in Pasadena, California, working on their ECD6000 telephone automatic call distributor. I saw first hand what this insane Christian hate cult is all about.
yellow dog @ 4:
Thats a serious slander of moderate by comparison Rev Wright. Dobson is a few yards of white material short of Grand Wizard of evil.
Fruitcake??, FRUITCAKE?!! I always wondered what Dobson does at night when the doors are closed.
Is this joke of a preacher a Biblical authority or an expert on Constitutional Law? Never mind. He's an ass.
Focus on this, buddy.
Haven't we established that those who are fervently anti-gay have a high probability of being gay themselves.
Does he pay taxes?
And when I return in one hour this comment area will have devolved into an anti-Christian hate fest.
“I think he’s deliberately distorting the traditional understanding of the Bible to fit his own worldview, his own confused theology,” Dobson said.
This is called projection.
The FISA compromise bill attempts to destroy the Constitution in order to save the Constitution. Have you contacted your senators yet? The vote will be Thursday. Give Harry Reid a piece of your mind, too.
as opposed to trampling on the concept of separation of church and state. Dobson should not be talking About perverse views of the constitution.
i didn't realize that dobson had a monopoly on bible interpretation.......right wing fruitcake
Doesn't every Christian sect accuse the others of distorting the "traditional interpretation" of scripture? And by "traditional interpretation" they always mean the one they personally have. Why does this dog always hunt? Its as old and played out as the hills.
The framers would quickly mock this absurdity, particularly Jefferson and Madison. Let's have the state control religion. That worked out so well in England and many European countries.
Great news from Florida. A ruling struck down Flori-duh's attempt to use "I Believe" license plates with a Christian cross on them. It cited the State didn't honor the plurality of faiths. It's a wedge we've seen too often. South Carolina is next after a motion was filed by the Americans United for the Separation of Church and State. If Dobson feels this strongly to inject his poisonous faith in the public square, his church needs to pay taxes like everyone else.
And I believe Dobson has a "fruitcake" view of the Bible.
What expert is he on the constitution anyway? Isn't he supposed to be some kind of "Christian" leader? Yet one more example of why religion does not belong in politics, which is what I believe Obama's whole point was to begin with.
CD @ 12:
if Jesus called out the hypocrites and leaders of the church who were selling religion in the temple, who am I to disagree? It is not hate, it is calling them on their pompous BS, which has done more than anything else I can think of to hurt people.
He is one Dumb Ass Cracker.
There seems to be no shortage of bs coming from the repubs this year. Too bad we can't fuel our cars on this bs because it would answer all our energy problems.
Matt Taibbi has written a book about the time he went undercover to see what it was like to become a member of Rev. Hagee's church. It's funny and frightening.
As for Obama being the guy in the country club holding a martini. Oh please! McCain is married to big money and they say Obama would be the guy in the country club? Let's check and see which candidate is most likely a country club member today.
That was such a typical Rove attack/comment.
His view of the original constitution is a document filled with such phrases as; " IN GOD WE TRUST" and "UNDER GOD" and "AS THE
BIBLE COMMANDS..." and the "THE COMMANDMENTS SAYETH"...
with PICTURES OF CROSSES AND JESUS AND THAT LIGHT THAT BLESSES AS ALL all over the HOLY DOCUMENT known as the US
CONSTITUTION.
Idiots!
Plisko @ 16:
You find this in other religions as well. Islam is a good example. IMHO I wish everyone would concentrate on living the life their interpretation tells them to live rather than focusing on all those other folks who "got it wrong". We would all be ever so much happier.
enor @ 22:
If you are going to quote it, don't leave important parts, like the separation of church and state.
What would Jesus do?
That's getting saved for closer to the election.
As he relies on the old testament to justify his lavish lifestyle, driving around in Bentleys and living in a mansion, he has the galls to criticize true Christians and talk about? The anti-christ will cloak himself in relgious garb to fool the fools.
Funny, I think Dobson has a "fruitcake" view of Religion. How ironic.
enor @ 22:
And nowhere in the constitution does it is your duty to go out and hurt people.
enor @ 22:
I'm not even sure what this comment means.
obama is making some connections with some evangelicals.........so now dobson has to stick his two sense in the mix.
Hey Dobson...how about separation of church and state ?
Oh yeah, I forgot that our democracy is based on christian principles....right!
Mugsy @ 28:
All religions are fruitcake!!!! How about reason and reality for a change?
So what does Dobson have positive to say about McCain? Rather than piss on Senator Obama, why doesn't he use his influence to promote his candidate?
Dobson knows all about Fruitcakes since he is one.
CD @ 12:
I'm not anti christian, I'm anti moron. Problem is, sometimes there's just too much overlap.
I have a bunt cake view of the Bible.
Yeah , because we all know how you've oftren been mistaken for an expert on the Constitution , you Bible-thumping douchebag..........
I know one thing in the bible that Barak Obama has a traditional understanding of.
“So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate” (Matthew 19:6)
Hmm, wonder what 'fruitcake' undid what God had joined together? What 'fruitcake' got a divorce, and what 'fruitcake' said the words "until death do us part" and really meant them.
As a bible-fearing man I find a lot more comments in the good book that go against John "894" McCain than I do Barak Obama.
Obama '08.
It’s all in the imagery.
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This is where Democratic ad people need to do their homework!
The Rethugs have long ago figured out that their numbnuts base can only grasp a couple of images (and very few words) at a time. Face it, Joe Six-pack already has this new image of a black guy drinking a drink that he can't afford (martini), smoking cigs his wife bitches at him to quit, in a place he maybe did some A/C work at but will never really see (country club).
And he's going to yuck it up with his buddies, some of whom might consider voting Democratic for the first time in awhile, at the local bar, with this image being the focus.
Just sayin...
Gretchen @ 18:
Who cares what anybody thinks about "the Bible"? Give me a break. The Bible is a totally irrelevant book. It is useless as are all religious texts!
Mr. Dobson -
Obama is not the one who takes little boys into the shower with him so he can show off his penis. You sir - are the fruitcake. And I'm being nice.
*
CD @ 12:
Well , you've got to admit there is a lot of material there to work with ...............
When can we start feedin these pseudo-xtians to the lions?
Underground Pirate @ 41:
The pages make for great rolling papers in a pinch though...so it's got that goin for it.
One day I really would like to see an Atheist become president. Maybe then we could tax churches!!!
outtheoffice @ 25:
I am sure he would weep.
CD @ 12:
What about Dobson's comment is deserving of a pro-Christian lovefest?
liberalDAPofDESTINYmoderation @ 44:
The lions just called and said to tell you they don't eat tainted meat.
My sister is a big Dobson fan. She has a book of his, and in it, he talks about how to 'beat the devil' out of your children. Dobson is an idiot and a fool, a liar and an immoral piece of shit.
Let's see, we have a psychologist who earns a living as a faux theologian accusing someone who has a Harvard law degree and who taught constitutional law for years of having a fruitcake view of the Constitution and of the Bible. Something does not add up here.
At the risk of being accused of starting the anti-Christian hate fest that's been predicted:
The "fruitcake view" here is any view which sees some holy book as anything more than a collection of fables and fairy tales. Both men are guilty of it; the difference is that Dobson uses his "version" of the Bible to justify his own prejudices and can't handle that fact that not everyone else does the same.
Well, if any people know about "fruitcakes" it's the rightwingnuts.
Larry Craig, Mark Foley, Charlie Crist (still closeted), etc.
Tell me again why churches are tax exempt? If they want to play politics, they can pay taxes.
Dobson, one of Bush's favorite altar boys, is obviously taking a wide stance with stall tactics like these, but he's looking a bit Haggard as he prostitutes the Bible. His Constitution lends itself to dog whistling, but this time he's just male-ing it in...
;-}
Ted Haggard thinks Obama is quite the cupcake.
Proud2bHumble @ 55:
Okay, all your drinks at happy hour are on me.
Dobson says all that Leviticus stuff doesn't matter any more.
So his problem with gays is... what?
pissed off patricia @ 21:
I finished reading that chapter last night. I laughed and shivered. (truthiness)
GREAT BOOK.
St. Paul Scout @ 50:
And, don't forget Dobson's method for preventing homosexuality:
"Meanwhile, the boy's father has to do his part. He needs to mirror and affirm his son's maleness. He can play rough-and-tumble games with his son, in ways that are decidedly different from the games he would play with a little girl. He can help his son learn to throw and catch a ball. He can teach him to pound a square wooden peg into a square hole in a pegboard. He can even take his son with him into the shower, where the boy cannot help but notice that Dad has a penis, just like his, only bigger."
http://triptronix.net/ishbadiddle/archives/2005/08/11/14.27.05/default.asp
Dobson is the one who distorts the bible and has a fruitcake view of the constitution. In fact, let's be frank, he's just another TV evangelist trying to Grandma's money.
Ah yes. From the article...
So Old Testament texts no longer apply, Mr. Dobson? Does that include the whole 'man lying with another man' part?
Well, which way is it going to be?
I was forced to attend a conservative baptist church growing up, and they were aaaalll about his "Focus On The Family" series.
I could dig up all kinds of intolerance from this man. way outside the standard of "anti-gay".
anti-skateboarding.
anti-rock.
anti-rap.
anti-mixed-race-relations.
anti-women-in-the-corporate-workplace.
anti-single-mother. (which is ironic, my mom was a single mom and adored him).
I could go on and on. I hate this guys fucking guts, and I hate him for being a hater.
Dobson sees fruitcakes everywhere. It's part of the gay master plan that includes Spong Bob, Jimmy Neutron and now Barack Obama. Btw today's special fruit is big bulging bananas.
this is what dobson reminds me of
Odo of Bayeux, a churchman who fought in the Crusades but still maintained his beliefs against shedding blood. Instead of a sword, he used a mace to simply hit his opponents in the head and give them a concussion.
There must be an enormous number of citizens in Colorado Springs saying to themselves:
"This used to be a wonderful town before this asshat showed up".
pissed off patricia @ 57:
:) It's all about the imaginary imagery image...
I'll bet you look great all covered in martini's, lol (sorry POP - couldn't resist..:)
;-}
Ruling Class Rou @ 64:
That would make such a cute youtube movie: "I See Gay People" with Dobson in bed, the covers pulled up to his eyes, and somethin' funny goin on down there.
bill doh @ 59:
I started it yesterday and finished it this morning. I just could not stop reading it. It sure left me with lots to think about. Have you read Matt's book, Smells like Dead Elephants. It's a collection of his essays and just as good as his last one.
If Dobson's church is anything like Hagee's, be damned afraid. Hagee's church preaches some of the weirdest shit I have heard of in a long time. He preaches that you have demons inside you and they have to be expelled via your mouth. Eerie!
I love it when Dobson becomes critical of a candidate that does not share his views. The more he does it, the more I like the candidate that he hates.
Rev. Dobson is showing his ignorance. He obviously is no constitutional expert. If he would just bother to read, he could learn a lot.
That's funny , because ever since 1992 , Obama's "beautiful date" has been his beautiful wife , Michelle ; and he has quit smoking and doesn't drink martinis.
BTW
Who is much more likely to make snide remarks ; a man raised in a racially diverse household , or a stupid old codger who has had 2 trophy wives and made his entire political career off his 2nd wife's family fortune ?
John Prine said it best WAAAY back in (I think) 1971:
chorus
But your flag decal won't get you
Into Heaven any more.
They're already overcrowded
From your dirty little war.
Now Jesus don't like killin'
No matter what the reason's for,
And your flag decal won't get you
Into Heaven any more.
Obama is correct, Christians to take an a la carte approach of the Bible.
I know Dobson thinks he's full of shit and doesn't believe in what he's saying here. The Old Testament has most of the material against homosexuals. So, that arguement of Old Testament/New Testament crap is simply wrong.
Next time someone says, "Well, that's in the Old Testament that doesn't mean much now." Respond with this: So, we're not supposed to follow the Old Testament word for word? Really? Because I really covet my neighbor's wife. They'll be backpeddling faster than pro football cornerback.
Proud2bHumble @ 67:
I seldom spill them so I've not much of an idea how I would look covered in them.
Quote from J. Dobson......and he still has followers? What the?
"Meanwhile, the boy's father has to do his part. He needs to mirror and affirm his son's maleness. He can play rough-and-tumble games with his son, in ways that are decidedly different from the games he would play with a little girl. He can help his son learn to throw and catch a ball. He can teach him to pound a square wooden peg into a square hole in a pegboard. He can even take his son with him into the shower, where the boy cannot help but notice that Dad has a penis, just like his, only bigger."
-- Dr. James Dobson
Yeah , something you "true believers" could never even envision doing , right Dobson ?
Like using the word "behemoth" as another word for "dinosaur" ?
pissed off patricia @ 69:
I do that every time I have enchiladas for dinner.
i need a dose of christopher hitchens to balance this zealous religous fanatic out alittle
Yellow Elephant Safari @ 36:
Best damn sentence uttered on C and L in ages, bravo.
James Dobson "thinks" gay marriage will "....destroy the institution of marriage. It will destroy marriage. It will destroy the Earth." Yeah, talk about fruitcakes.
CD @ 12, let me ask you this - Do you consider what Dobson preaches to be Christianity?
Yellow Elephant Safari @ 78:
You must refrain from eating the demon enchiladas.
You wouldn't believe all the things that Hagee believes to be demons. If he reads this thread I'm sure he'll add enchiladas to his list.
pissed off patricia @ 69:
Needless to say - I'll keep my mouth closed/shut.
I'll have to look up Matt's ELEPHANTS book. It sounds, and I'm sure it is, interesting.
Dr. (Fast Eddie Hussein) Matt @ 81:
Gay marriage raped my grandmother.
I agree with RonDumsfeld@13. It’s pure projection. That is all they have left. If you’ll note, projection is running rampant among the neo-cons. They’ve run the gambit and can no longer come up with anything new, so they have become obsessive projectionists. Obsessive projectionists are also known as frigging fruitcakes.
Underground Pirate @ 41:
I care. As do lots of others. We're not all believers in Dobson and Hagee.
Give me a break. I don't insult your atheism. Don't call my beliefs irrelevant. To do so makes you no better than Dobson....
Rusty Martini, Cigarette and a Snide Comment Shackleford @ 85:
Gay marriage cost me my job at the factory.
Its interesting that Dobson's remarks against Obama come just days after a new study indicated that a large majority of Americans now are more non-dogmatic when it comes to their own religious beliefs and also in the way that they see other religions or denominations. The study also indicates that (from the article below):
"In politics, that means that coalitions are possible among members of divergent religious groups."
I'd bet that Dobson feels that he is losing control over his "flock" with his extremist views and fears that they may find Obama more appealing than Dobson wants them to.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/11268.html
pissed off patricia @ 83:
If Hagee is correct, every drunk that hurls after a drinking binge is saved..........dang, something told me that I should not give up drinking.
Dobson always looks and sounds like he's about ready to burst a blood vessel. At his age, he should watch his blood pressure and keep his temper under control. Wouldn't it be a shame if Dobby had to spend the rest of his life drooling all over himself and being cared for by others, hmmmm?
liberalDAPofDESTINYmoderation @ 88:
Gay marriage kicked my dog.
karl @ 65:
i don't believe here hate christians but i will speak for myself .......i dislike.....hardcore agents of intolerance
and professional haters....believe what you wish but keep it out of politics
pissed off patricia @ 69: He preaches that you have demons inside you and they have to be expelled via your mouth. Eerie!
Funny, they usually expel them by emptying your wallet.
Radically Moderate @ 90:
If that's the case, then I've been saved more times than I care to count.
dobson=professional hater and agent of intolerance
Yellow Elephant Safari @ 95:
Me too, who would have guessed?
What the heck is Dobson doing talking about the Constitution? Since when this nutjob become a Constitutional expert? Never. He can't even interpret the bible properly let alone the Constitution.
I would like to hear Dobson recite the "Beatitudes" as written by Luke and then I would like to see him follow the guidelines presented by Jesus in the "Beatitudes". Dobson's talk is cheap and he brings in a lot of money with his cheap talk. So far, he hasn't followed in the footsteps of his Savior. He only yaps about hate and war and then passes around the collection plate.
...technically speaking, anyone (Obama included) who voted for the patriot act... (and the constitutional violations it contains)...by default, has a fruitcake view of the constitution.
I used to wonder why, if there was really a God, he would allow this POS to live. Then it occurred to me . . . the more he speaks the more he drives people out of Christianity and the Republican Party. I guess god is smarter than I am after all.
Dr. (Fast Eddie Hussein) Matt @ 92:
Gay marriage wilted my petunias.
I was in Colorado Springs awhile back and saw this sticker on a Jeep:
It's your hell, you burn in it.
I went up to the driver and said I agreed.
Rev. Dobson is a man who simply getting rich on the backs of others. He is cashing in on God.
JudyLou @ 101:
Gay marriage is raising the price of oil.
Dr. (Fast Eddie Hussein) Matt @ 92:
Dr. (Fast Eddie Hussein) Matt @ 92:
Gay marriage stole Bush's brain.
Radically Moderate @ 90:
I rid myself of demons when I empty my bladder. I have small demons.
Flash @ 19:
I have no problem with people objecting to his version of religion I have a problem with people hating on Christianity as a whole.
Numinous @ 105:
Don't be silly.
He didn't have one to start with.
Gay marriage stole Mrs. Larry Craig's husband.
Dr. (Fast Eddie Hussein) Matt @ 104:
No really gay marriage cost the Dutch the European Futbol championship
You know, up until Jerry Falwell's death I had 3 bottles of premium "aged" wine. I now have two...One with Pat Robertson's name on it and the other one with Dobson's name on it.
Don't get all "chewy" bacons on me, ok? I'm a former ordained pastor and quite versed in Scripture. So, I know what's up with these morons. These are not men of God as they think and portray themselves and it's unfortunate that educated citizens lend their ears to these idiots.
Pot meet kettle....
Isnt it time for Dobson to get fitted up for his matchbox !
I guess those of the faith should throw away the old testament. Would that mean that everything in the old testament that is tied to Jesus should be thrown out too? If so, Jesus doesn't mean anything either... Why don't we just burn all the religious books and let Self-Declared Religious Leaders make up new ones so that we will be up to date!!! If you are with me, meet me at Dobson's church this evening. Let's hold our breath until he says something worthwhile!!!
Ruling Class Rou @ 109:
Gay marriage cost the Lakers the NBA title.
Cats r Flyfishn @ 98:
thats how conservative baptists, and a lot of protestants for that matter - thats how they are man.
they tend to quote a whole lot of old testament, and a whole lot of the letters of Paul, and just kind of breeze right by over the 4 gospels. its weird man, its absolutely weird. they indoctrinate little kids on the gospel. all the miracles, the birth, the walking on water, the loaves and fishes, the crucifixion and resurrection ... they go into all this detail on those stories for the little kids... but the grownups tend to ignore those 4 books. probably the most important books in the bible too, at least in my opinion.
I guess thats why we have all this hate speech, all this anti-homosexuality this and anti-black that. so many tight, white & right church "leaders" like Dobson focus more on Paul, Saul, James, John and all the letters they wrote... and focus on old testament rules found in Deuteronomy... and less on "what would Jesus do"
I turned my back on organized religion a long time ago and I like to think I've been a more loving, caring person ever since. if that damns me to hell, well, at least I'll go to hell with a clear conscience.
so, to CD @ 12 - well, I guess there's your anti-christian hate fest. =\
CD @ 107:
IMHO Christianity as a whole needs a good healthy dope slap.
Scy @ 100:
You got me... I use to be a Christian and then the "Dobsonites" and "Jesustanis" took front stage with the anointing of the boy Bush as Dictator and as the Republic Party as the bible party and suddenly, I turned my back on religion. These self-righteous, self-serving, selfish bastards turned me away from Christianity, for good.
Another freak I can add to my list of crazy Christian bigots. These people never fail to amaze me with their hate mongering while reading scripture and the crazy people that follow them. I am so tired of having religion trying to control my government. Our government came first and then religion came in and ruined it. The Constitution is a GODLESS Constitution.
Thank you lord for making me an Atheist.
I can hardly wait for the "Obama is a Bible distorting, madrasa raised Muslim, wolf in sheep's clothing, anti-christ, liberal cult leader (courtesy of Oprah), who must be stopped" chain emails from my Churchy realtives now.
As with the right and religious nutcases no actual facts are presented to make the case. All opinion. They just hope whoever is left listening aren't doing their homework and just listen to the lies. Thanks to the internet facts are only a few seconds away and more and more people are wising up. These quacks are debunked within seconds. Dobson should look in the mirror before saying anyone is distorting facts relating to the bible. A quick check will show volumes of him doing it. And an expert on the constitution he is surely not. I wish this religious clowns would just stay out of politics they makes fools out of themselves when they do.
JudyLou @ 102:
Go for it. My guess is one would need to believe in hell in order to go to hell. And where exactly is hell anyway?
Cats r Flyfishn @ 121:
Colorado Springs?
bill doh @ 106:
LOL, big time! Are those wee wee-wee demons?
Projection, projection, projection.
Unless Dobson can prove me wrong, Dobson is only in the "religion" business for the money and tax breaks.
Numinous @ 105:
Gay marriage is ruining the economy.
If there was anything that pissed Jesus off more it was skatebording. Loved the skateboarder, hated the skateboarding...
"fruitcake view".....Uh huh... Yea, I see the absurdity....
I'll say the obvious once since it's pretty clear from skimming thru the comments and the main theme has already been said... many times................ Dobsons views on Obama are pretty ridiculous given his own 'fruitcake' views on ....umm in no particular order,
Separation of church and state
Religion in general
Belief in a higher power in general
The constitution and bill of rights....
Politics in general
Just to name five right off the top of my head....
Overall Dobson is quite the wanker... I'd feel sorry for the lot of idiots that buy into his tripe, but they all act so freaking holy santimonious and filled full of phony piety that I just don't give a rats ass about any of them... This guy might claim to be a man of God, but for my money, he's no different than any other snake oil salesman... Fuck him and his historonics... I have some real issues with Obama, I don't need Dobson and his religious bullshit cluttering up the situation.... Whether or not I vote for Obama or whomever, it won't have a goddamned thing to do with James Dobson and his phonyass focus on the family guilt tripping money grubbers...JD
Radically Moderate @ 122:
Yep. Actually, it might've been in Manitou Springs.
Cats r Flyfishn @ 125:
The "vow of poverty" no longer applies......today it is the "declaration of prosperity".
Dr. Dobson continues to follow a long line of religious leaders who have put together a collection of pages in the Bible that they believe are relevant, and rip out the pages that they believe are not relevant. All that nonsense about "love your neighbor" and "judge not lest you be judged" can be ignored, unless of course you are a religious leader caught in a scandal. He can ridicule "antiquated dietary codes", because he has decided that they are no longer relevant, but see as "timeless" any passages that he agrees with, like "homosexuality is an abomoniation." Which means, I suppose, that anybody keeping Kosher is just an idiot? Or, could it mean that those keeping Kosher are not idiots, because the Old Testament only applies to the Jews, but the New Testament can apply to anybody who wants to accept it? Hmmm. Perhaps what God intends is for us to just let Dr. Dobson decide which pages should be looked at?
Every time that the Republicans pull out the Bible, imagine a Navy Destroyer laying down a big smoke cloud. There should be a passage somewhere that says "Using God in a political context is an abomination!" Oh, wait! There is! The Third Commandment: Thou shalt not use my name in vain, Dr. Dobson!!
Where's the separation of Church and State? I can't take these evangelical douche bags and their flock of morons anymore. Remember when people went to Church (or wherever they practiced their faith) and that was that. No big stadium sized auditoriums with satelite feeds and a worldwide network of donating members who feel compelled to change the laws of the United States, hell the world, for their own personal good. Maybe it's the desperation of mankind in such a panicked unstable world.
I will hedge my bets on Obama over any of the "spiritual leaders" of today when it comes to credibility. With such a horrible track record, why would anyone give a shit what any of them have to say?
George Carlin would have loved this bullshit.
All that people like Dobson do is sell heaven insurance. He takes the money, the people who give it to him believe if they do as he says they will go to heaven when they die. No one is around to prove that his ploy doesn't work, so people keep on doing it by putting their faith, not in god, but in Dobson's ability to tell them how to get to heaven. In my opinion, what he's doing is a committing a crime.
WR @ 132:
WWGCS..........What Would George Carlin Say.
pissed off patricia @ 133:
Now he's saying he won't support Obama or McCain and will not be casting his vote. I wonder how many of his faithful sheep will follow suit?
Funny, Dobson always likes to use the Leviticus passage about homosexuality.
Obama really doesn't know what hes talking about.
He should sit and study the Bible, not read it like a book.
And try the New Testament, not the Old if you want to apply it to today.
Uh, people, our countrys laws and rules are founded on the laws of the LORD.
And everyone of you need to learn what freedom of Religion means.
It means the state can't tell you what religion to follow And that it can't interfere in your religious beliefs. Thats all!
But, I guess in todays society, it really means everybody but Christians can speak baout their religion.
If you don't want to hear about a certain religion, then spare others your non belief.
And if just hearing about one offends you or you think someone speaking about theirs infringes on your rights, you are insecure in your beliefs.
"Fruitcake" view of the Constitution? Hmm... let's check:
Obama:
Taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School? Check.
Editor of Harvard Law Review? Check.
Dobson:
Oh, why should we even bother?
James Dobson is one of those typical Bible business men who use the Bible to advance their fortunes. Jesus threw out these types from the temple!
Where are those media guru's who crucified Dr. Wright for repeating the texts from another reputed white American? Are they not going to apply the same equal standards to James Dobson?
James Dobson and his counterparts live in medevial times, and has a minority following in this country. I belong to a 60 million strong Christan Church group here, and have studied the US Constitution in its enirety from an outstanding university in this country, and I do not need any advise from the these right wing radicals for my understanding of the US constitution or the Bible.
Dobson is a parasitic idiot of the worst kind...why anyone listens to this pile of crapola is beyond stupid.
"Uh, people, our countrys laws and rules are founded on the laws of the LORD."
I didn't know this.
You know the GOP is desperate when all it has are names to call someone, not issues. That means Obama has an excellent chance of winning. All the more reason to be on the watchout for an October Surpise. If America is attacked, expect a false flag. Somehow the Mossad will be involved. It always is.
Here's something Dobson can respond to!
Molly Weasley @ 138:
Obama voted for the patriot act ...and therefore doesnt know shit about the constitution.
James Dobson is probably even more ignorant. which adds to the irony.
Gillie @ 137:
you need to take your own advice.
Radically Moderate @ 116:
Charming.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dMqN1HkbKYY
Gillie @ 137:
If you want to talk religion, the laws of the Lord are found in the Torah (Old Testament, if you will). There are 613 of them, not 10. Many of us are Christian, do our best to follow them and find them perfectly applicable to our private lives today.
If you want to talk politics, which part of God's law called for separation of church and state? That is a part of our constitution, which is the documentation our country was founded upon....
milquetoast @ 144:
repeating the garbage you made up doesn't make you any smarter.
I hate to admit it... but all this talk about fruitcake is making me hungry. Yes, for fruitcake. I can't help it! Forgive me, I like fruitcake! It appears that I'm the only person who does...
BaScOmBe hearts Lara Logan @ 148:
Obama voted for Patriot act (its not garbage I made up! what planet are you from?
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