Bush says Iran is bad, Condi says they're bad, but US still likes to sell them goods
By John Amato Wednesday Jul 09, 2008 5:00pm
Iran is bad, 'mkay? They are really, really bad. They are the axis of evil, 'mkay? We can't talk to them because they're bad, 'mkay? Condi says we'll defend our allies against Iran, 'mkay?
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We've seen this play out in the press over and over again. He's flanked by all his William the Bloody Kristol flunkies as well. BillO says GE are terrorist lovers too, but guess what? Under BushCo's careful eye, our exports to Iran have increased tremendously. Hmmm... makes you scratch your head, doesn't it? Sure, a couple of hundred million dollars isn't a tremendous amount of money, but why the huge increase from from 8.3 million on 2001 to 146 million in 2007? If Bush really believed as he speaks why not decrease the amount of goods being sold? And anybody shocked that Iran is testing missiles?
There has been little love lost between the Bush administration and Iran's hardline government. But even so, U.S. exports to Iran are booming.
Let's go to CNN's State Department correspondent Zain Verjee -- Zain?
ZAIN VERJEE, CNN STATE DEPARTMENT CORRESPONDENT: Suzanne, the State Department just announced new restrictions against Iranian individuals and companies accusing them of trying to help Iran develop nuclear weapons, but some American businesses are dealing with Iran.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
VERJEE: The Bush administration is trying to squeeze Iran's economy. At the same time U.S. businesses are boosting trade with Iran. According to U.S. government data, over the past seven years, exports to Iran exploded, from $8.3 million in 2001 to $146 million in 2007.
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We have been sticking it to Iran since 1953, all the while propping up the terrorist state of Israel, we even gave them nukes and missiles, tanks and planes. Iranians, the common people love America!!! We need to start loving them back.
America stands for freedom and democracy....unless there's a buck to be made, in which case we'll look the other way at any dictatorship anywhere in the world. We're a nation of hypocritical whores, period. We sell out our principles every day in the name of our real God, Capitalism.
Hah, the almighty dollar guides politics instead of principle. Not that it ever works out any other way, but meh.
With the US and Israel threating them all the time they have every right to test missiles.
Well, their MONEY isn't evil-- right Cheney? Eh? Amirite?
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Because the goods being sold probably include(d) rockets, not one bit surprised. I'd like to see an audit show the real inventory of goods. Why the fuck would Arabs be buying bras?
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Required @ 2:
America stands for freedom and democracy in other countries, but obviously not in amerika.
How dare Iran Wanting to defend themselves from an attack from Israel AND America and the "Axis of Evil ' was ok to deal business with when Bloody Dick Cheney's Dresser Rand was selling OIL pumping equipment in the 90's and he advocated removing them off the state sponsor of terrorist list , we'll Reagan did the same with Saddam .
Even Israel sold Tank parts to Iran in the late 90's according to Janes Intelligence .
Calling these CRIMINALS hypocrites is being polite .
who is this 'expert' at the art of anal feathering?
Iranians are the most hospitable people I have ever encountered. In addition, they have not attacked another country in their 300 year history as a nation state.
According to this article Bush/Cheney and Israel have been put on notice to back off on any war with Iran or the price of gasoline will go so far through the roof that THEN the American people will get pissed:
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/07/10/business/opec.php
REALLY pissed.
And of course the U.S. economy will tank beginning with a crash on Wall Street as nervous investors go into safer havens (silver/gold?OIL!!!). And the dominos will come crashing down all around everyone. Already higher gasoline prices are impacting the delivery of food and other goods/services, which is impacting jobs and on and on it goes.
Bush, Cheney, Obama, McCain and the Congress had better take notice of the folly they are considering. It will spell nothing but doom and gloom for EVERYONE.
Isn't there ANYONE who can talk some sense into these idiots?! Because they certainly are NOT listening to the American people!
Maybe it's time to get out my "WHO KNOWS? WHO CARES? WHY BOTHER?" pin and start wearing it again.
Kahoneez @ 8:
I wonder what's going to happen now that Iran has proven missile capability, other than today's $5 increase in the price of oil?
is anyone going to want to avoid future death and destruction?
Republicons=effing hypocrites
Required @ 2:
Amen to that!!
Abbybwood @ 11:
they only listen to lobbyists and the profiteers that the lobbyists work for.
And here's more cool stuff Halliburton is supposedly selling to Iran!
http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/2-halliburton-charge...
I just received a call and was asked, ' if the election were held today would you vote today for John McCain or Barack Obama?'
I asked the caller for their phone number, (which btw showed up on my caller id as 1-(my area code)-000-0000 .... and was told 'to the best of her knowledge, they didn't have a phone number'....I replied in shock, "'you mean you called me, but didn't use a phone?!?!" and she laughed...so I asked her "why [she] mentioned John McCain 1st?" She said 'that didn't mean anything'...I said "GOOOD!, cause, you know, he's a cocksucker!!!"
Kind of like the Ford and boosh families having business deals with Hitler and his Nazis?
Sorry, off topic alert, Judiciary Committee may start hearings on Impeachment
HDon @ 17:
Right on!!!
We can at least hope the Iranian government gets the same crappy no-bid contracts our own government gets.
Kahoneez @ 8:
If your going to have a villain to scare the American people with then you need to build him up so that he is scary.
It's all a big shell game to manipulate the masses.
Keep the sheep fearful so that they do not do something crazy like demand healthcare.
Both sets of links point to the same video, I'm afraid.
right on! @ 20:
I got a call last night from a young man who wanted to ask me questions about the upcoming election. He asked first are you or is anyone in your household a reporter, I said no, heavily involved in an ongoing campaign, I said no (a lie), and then he asked if I was a blogger, I said yes. He said thank you and hung up!
right on! @ 20:
You should check and see if your name has been purged from the voter roles.
ysbaddaden @ 18:
and no one listened to smedley butler or dwight eisenhower
HDon @ 17:
In 1988, I was asked by a telephone poll if I was a conservative or a liberal.
I answered I'm a conservative,
I believe in the Divine Right of Kings.
When do we start exporting Conservatives to Iran?
from an email I received:
knuckledragger @ 27:
Me too, me too...
I'm not getting the Condi video.
Jay Severin Has A Small Pen1s @ 32:
Could we please start with Joe LIEbermann?
Jay Severin Has A Small Pen1s @ 28:
I will make it cheap. I promise that I will do it for the lowest price on a cost plus basis. For everyone they take I will only add a nickel over cost.
27 CoIntelPro
Smedley Butler sounds like a cool name for a friend of Snidely Whiplash.
(I got books and documentaries on the general)
Blue Lensman @ 35:
you can supplement that list with all those (D)emocrats who decided to vote for the resolution asking boosh to attack Iran.
ysbaddaden @ 37:
I read "war is a racket". If there were any justice, it would be the epitaph of the voosh crime family.
Ronald Reagan, anyone? When Bush gets subpoenaed, do we get a repeat of "I don't recall?"
Actually, Condi, I do believe the USA has tested its missiles from time to time. Should that be construed by the rest of the world as a threat?
Bush/Cheney would sell Bin Laden a nuclear warhead if they thought they could make a nice profit from it. Then they would report it immediately to Fox News, and blame it on them librul's who hate Amerikuh!
Yellow Cake is for Twinkies @ 41:
Well, I guess the rest of the world ought to take it that way. For many, it's turned out to be true.
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Yellow Cake is for Twinkies @ 41:
does our shooting down a satelllite count?
39 CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Victory Over SCLM, DIEBOLD, ESS and SEQUOIA! Says: ysbaddaden @ 37:
27 CoIntelPro
Smedley Butler sounds like a cool name for a friend of Snidely Whiplash.
(I got books and documentaries on the general)
I read “war is a racket”. If there were any justice, it would be the epitaph of the voosh crime family.
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I know I have to stick my fingers in my ears.
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We weren't off-topic
We we're waxing post-modern
It makes Taurette syndome into an art form.
It's all about the bottom line.....profit.
Hell yes we hate them! We'll blow them up and then provide the materials and goods to rebuild them. That's what we do!
We are such hypocrites.
Laughable. Since when are defensive war games against a theoretical invasion a threat?
This is getting really sad.
My guess is that, if the press bothers to dig a little deeper, they'll find most of those companies that were given special dispensation to sell to Iran during the embargo were loyal Bush companies, and big contributers to Republican congressional races.
Weapons? Bull semen, bras and cosmetics are one thing, but weapons are a different story entirely. The only people who are allowed to sell weapons to Iran are Oliver North and the Reagan cronies. Only Nixon could go to China, only Reagan could sell weapons to Iran, and only little Bush could talk to North Korea. I think I see a pattern here.
That picture of kindanasty makes her look like a blow-up doll
To lose your stiffy
Brought to you by the Catholic church.
(Tourette.)
48 Hulk Says: It’s all about the bottom line…..profit.
I had a bottom line once
It came from a riding crop
That chick hit hard.
Leadership @ 23:
this isw part of the smoke and mirrors its called lets bullshit the suckers!
theConstitution @ 7:
I don't know about Arabs, but I'd assume Persians would buy them to hold their teats up.
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Victory Over SCLM, DIEBOLD, ESS and SEQUOIA! @ 33:
A better comparison would be Stalin, IMHO.
Leadership @ 23:
May be the only way to stop another preemptive move (the neos love so much) before November!
The CNN report made mention of what type of goods are being sold to Iran but not the companies' names. Where can the names of these companies be found?
Bush and Cheney and the Republicans in Congress exist to fulfill corporate wish lists and to ensure a Republican majority in all 3 branches of government so they can continue to fulfill those wish lists. One or both of those motivations are behind absolutely everything they've done in the past 7.5 years. Follow the money and you'll find the real reasons for every action. It works every time.
If it is true that the U.S. is doing a lot of business with Iran it is good news.
It anything is going to stop Bush, who is hell bent on bombing Iran, it is that it would be bad for business.
Hey, American needs to sell its worthless, poorly made crap somewhere.
God knows I won't buy anything made in the US.
Yellow Cake is for Twinkies @ 41:
Oh but you're forgetting, the US has its own set of rules. Screw the rest of the planet.
Nice to see that this arrogant bullshit is coming to an end soon.
If you are well connected with the politicians, as much of Corporate America is, you are exempt from US Foreign policy (as bad as it may be).
D @ 57:
I believe the Bush Aministration stopped publicizing the company's who received licenses to save them embarrassment, but one may be able to get them using the Freedom of Information Act. It doesn't seem like Main Stream Media is pushing the issue.
theConstitution @ 7:
That, right there, shows your ignorance about the 300 million Arabs in the Middle East. Why does your mother need a bra?
Also, Iranians are Persian. They're not Arab. When will people like you stop talking out of their ass?
64 Crunch
Iraqians are Persians too.
The whole underlying premise, that is accepted by the reporters, is that Iran is a threat to the United States. Someone please close CNN. It's a worthless junk tv-station. If you want real news, you have to look for independent sources. These so-called news-stations like CNN, Fox, etc., are nothing short of propaganda.
may have been mentioned - i heard today on randi, a story about iran using PHOTOSHOP when showing the recent missile tests...
a quick googlenews search:
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=iran%2C+photoshop&btnG=Search...
Iran is "bad" if you accept right wing christo fascist framing. I don't so I see no hypocrisy in trading with them.
The greedy bastards believe everything is expendable when it comes to making a profit. Anyone with a new world order mentality should be considered the enemy. Neocons actually prefer dictatorships because it becomes easier to pillage and plunder. Consider Equatorial Guinea where Obiang has been called the worst dictator in Africa, but since vast oil and natural gas reserves were discovered in the mid-1990s, this small West African nation has become a close ally of the United States.
When Teodoro Obiang visited Washington that same year, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice described him as a “good friend” of the United States.
Meanwhile, major oil corporations, including ExxonMobil, Hess, Marathon and Chevron, have been investing millions in the country. Equatorial Guinea has also benefited from ties to Washington banks and lobbyists. The D.C.-based Riggs Bank helped Obiang’s government hide hundreds of millions of dollars in overseas accounts.
And JOHN McCAIN’s chief adviser, Charlie Black, once ran a lobbying firm that represented Equatorial Guinea on Capitol Hill.
The country now has one of the highest per capita incomes, average per capita income in Africa, yet about 60 percent of the people, even in the major cities, don’t have running water.
katy @ 67:
Yeah, the video shows three not four.
It is all a scam to keep oil prices high.
How should the world view Iran for accepting trade agreements with war criminals that destroy everything they get their blood soaked hands on?
why isnt this pig out getting laid or at least a new pair of shoes!
Isawthelight @ 59:
No, you have to look at it from the corporatist perspective - business would actually be better if an invasion/occupation took place. The long term goals and prospects far outweigh this short term export boost. The *smart* businessman (wink wink) is open to short term loss in order to obtain massive long term gain.
Great comment on this in Congress by Ron Paul:
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=l1y47K29J1o
Selling them goods is what we're doing right.. not impeaching the entire government is want were wrong. that goes for all you FISA voting dems too.. everyone is on notice!
Bush supporters are such fools. PERIOD!
swampfox @ 72:
Would you lay with that thing?
O.K.?!
...and now Al Jazeera reports on the state of the US economy. Is it any wonder why Iran is sticking their head out now? Not really, they know the chimp has blown our entire military wad on the mideast. Bush is a novice.
Analysis: Blame the dollar
http://english.aljazeera.net/focus/2008/06/200862371431417772.html
swampfox @ 72:
Nooo...!!
The last time she pulled a stunt of that sort, Katrina happened - and Bush was off at some country music festival, being given a shiny new guitar. And McCain got another birthday cake.
We want these creeps all together and accounted for. In one big jail cell, preferably..
Crunch @ 64:
Pardon my misuse and misunderstanding of the Arab label. My point was that their economy is in the same shitty shape ours is and bras seem like an unimportant commodity to be importing.
I think its possible to correct me without being an asshole, though.
Required @ 2:
Iran isn't a dictatorship AND THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG WITH THE US TRADING WITH DICTATORSHIPS. You know why? Because if there is no trade at all then the citizens that live under those countries you call dictatorships would be left with absolutely NOTHING. Economic sanctions and refusal to trade with countries doesn't help ANYONE, it only causes suffering(or maybe it makes you happy since you hate it when people trade with each other so much).
Don't use this as an excuse for you to bash the free-market- which is just people cooperating with each other to improve their own lives. The White house's rhetoric has nothing to do with BUSINESSES trading with Iran- those are just people trading on their own, they didn't want Bush's permission to do it. Its not like Bush said "hey lets increase trade with Iran" and all businesses said "ok". People in Iran wanted products so businesses sold to them- why the hell are any of you COMPLAINING about this?
As for wondering why exports to Iran have increased during the years...well incase you haven't been paying attention- exports in general have been increasing due to the fact that the US dollar is losing its value so products here become cheaper for people overseas. This is not a good thing however, since manufacturers still purchase their raw materials overseas- and foreigners buying everything up will only lead to supply shortages at home.
ysbaddaden @ 65:
The majority of Iraqi's are arabs
They need the money to build missiles and buy uranium so the U.S. will have an excuse to attack them.
You know, the same reason the U.S. was supplying Iraq with chemical weapons and anthrax.
This sort of behavior runs deep in the Bushie genes. "Prescott Bush ... [was] finally forced by the 'Trading With the Enemy Act' to terminate [his] extensive business dealings with Hitler... Hitler's "Angel" -- Prescott Bush and his Wall Street cronies helped finance and arm the Third Reich. Some continued trading with the enemy even after Germany declared war on America."
From Summary Of The Bush Crime Family History
http://www.sonic.net/%7Etaryfast/destruction.html
I take exception of #14's post: "Iranians are the most hospitable people I have ever encountered. In addition, they have not attacked another country in their 300 year history as a nation state."
They invaded the embassy in Tehran which was sovereign US territory. They invaded us when they invaded the embassy. An impenetrable wall should have gone up around that nation back then until we got ALL of the embassy personnel back safe and sound. THEN, they should've been further isolated economically, politically and in any other way one might conceive for a prescribed period of time or until the "students" who invaded the embassy where thrown in jail.
I have a few other scenarios I would've loved to have shared with Pres. Carter and/or Pres. Reagan but since it all happened so long ago, what can be done about it now. I know: OIL, OIL, OIL, OIL.
Well, that's not really a surprise, I mean, all the stuff that is being said about Iraq is just rhetoric. Even Israel is buying Iranian oil, despite how much they say they are dirty and terrorists. Just look at this here about this Iran propaganda debunking piece. Probably not might even believe it all, but hey, take what you can and leave the rest.
http://warofillusions.wordpress.com/2008/07/08/lies-damn-lies-and-the-ca...
surfjac @ 85: