Liddy Dole Proposing Naming AIDS Bill After Jesse Helms
That's a head-to-keyboard sentence if I've ever heard one. Pam's House Blend:
Good god. Perhaps all that work on Liddy has caused something to snap. Out of all the people to try to honor in an Act dedicated to fighting AIDS, Elizabeth Dole spits in the face of LGBTs by proposing the now-dead Jesse Helms be added to the "Tom Lantos and Henry J. Hyde United States Global Leadership Against HIV/AIDS, Tuberculosis, and Malaria Reauthorization Act of 2008." Here's the Congressional Record:
SA 5074. Mrs. DOLE submitted an amendment intended to be proposed by her to the bill S. 2731, to authorize appropriations for fiscal years 2009 through 2013 to provide assistance to foreign countries to combat HIV/AIDS, tuberculosis, malaria, and for other purposes; which was ordered to lie on the table; as follows: On page 1, line 5, strike ''and Henry J. Hyde'' and insert '', Henry J. Hyde, and Jesse Helms''.
Why is this so unbelievably wrong on so many levels? Because of what Jesse Helms said about AIDS:
Joe Jervis of Joe.My.God says it all: Jesse Helms, the man who in 1987 described AIDS prevention literature as "so obscene, so revolting, I may throw up."
Jesse Helms, the man who in 1988 vigorously opposed the Kennedy-Hatch AIDS research bill, saying, "There is not one single case of AIDS in this country that cannot be traced in origin to sodomy."
Jesse Helms, the man who in 1995 said (in opposition to refunding the Ryan White Act) that the government should spend less on people with AIDS because they got sick due to their "deliberate, disgusting, revolting conduct."
I don't know about you, but I smell a Worst Person in The World award going to one Liddy Dole for this crushingly insensitive move.
Good people of North Carolina.
Get rid of this fuck -- pardon my language.
She does your state disrespect.
go with hypocrite helms aids bill........wow never a dull moment these people and their egos
I am thinking the Republicans don't like the gays. And we know from research that homophopia is closely related to homosexuality. Apparently they did an ex[eriment where they took self described "homophobic" men and attached a device to their &%$@#. The device would show if the subject was getting an erection. They then showed the "homophobic" men gay porn. Guess what. 80% got chubbies!!!
yet another snippit of reality that looks as though it was ripped off from the front page of The Onion.
Bob has obviously not been taking his Viagra./snark
That would be the TLHJHUSGLAHATMRA. They CAN'T change it, I mean changing it to TLHJHJHUSGLAHATMRA just takes away all the Catchy Legislative Acronym magic!
Once again a female Republican demonstrates how it is possible to act sickeningly sweet and polite while pursuing disingenuous and ungracious motives. She will soon be a footnote in the sad Republican legacy of these tragic days, and nothing more than that.
As the SFist.com pointed out, maybe this is just another witty piece of satire like the New Yorker cover cartoon. Anybody know if there was sever tension between the Dole's and Helms. Regardless, this move can only make the Republican's look bad by being either a) too stupid to realize the BLATANT irony, or b) putting down a idol of the far-right wing of their base.
Meanwhile, I'm proposing a Jessie Helms Gay Marriage Defense Act to legal homosexual unions nationally. Who's with me?
HIV/Aids isn't just 'A Gay Disease'....
At Helms' funeral, did they have a moment of ignorance? (Credit to Chris Rock in reference to George Wallace's funeral)
Remember when the Republican brain trust went through that period of trying to name everything that didn't move after Ronald Reagan.
I wonder if the San Franciscans have a second sewage treatment plant that they could name the JESSE HELMS & LIDDY DOLE SHIT PROCESSING FACTORY.
OH! Does this mean the departed senator really died of AIDS, but only the GOP elite know? Now THAT would be ironic!
She is given the talking points and runs with it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z0a1iYBVOo
With no grasp of how the talking points relates to the issue at hand.
All this is of course to say nothing of the fact that the other group most affected by HIV/AIDS is blacks...
I am in a band with four North Carolinians. I think I will slap them all next time I see them.
If they'd make it the "I Hate You and your Jesse Helms-Shaped Genitalia Act of 2008" I might allocate a few billion for it...
Has the advantage for the much shorter acronym: IHYJHSGA-2008... not as cool as USA-PATRIOT, but I'm guessing we can get it into third-grade vocabulary curriculum in a few years.
Anyone?
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Billy Shears @ 11:
It just occurred to me that "Republican brain trust" is a triple word score in oxymoron-scrabble.
this old bastard was a bigot-racist-homophobe.
this bill should be named after someone who
has courageously fought to fight and cure aids,
not an asshole who did everything he could
to spread lies and pain to all aids victims.
Jesse Helms, the man who in 1988 vigorously opposed the Kennedy-Hatch AIDS research bill, saying, “There is not one single case of AIDS in this country that cannot be traced in origin to sodomy.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzwGfP98vGM
Funny thing is that Genesis doesn't mention sodomy but unpleasing acts before God, which Jews have traditionally interpreted as lack of graciousness to guests, amassing huge wealth and appeasing vanity instead of helping the least among us.
The only thing approaching homosexuality was a crowd demanding to know and speak with the "angels" Lot was protecting. But it appears in context they wanted to question them to get to know who and what they are (perhaps even lynching) not knowing them in the Biblical sense if you will.
Lot being a god-fearing man offered his under-aged virgin daughters to the crowd to do with as they will if they leave the angels alone.
yes! yes! oh, yes...
please link that racist peckerwood for all time to a plague virus.
let america -- and the world -- forever associate jessie helms with a ravaging disease in the same way rick santorum is forever linked with that frothy...well...you get the idea.
perfect!
@19: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg_HdbOhhOw
11 Billy Shears Says: Remember when the Republican brain trust went through that period of trying to name everything that didn’t move after Ronald Reagan.
Did that include Ronald Reagan?
Oh No, They Saved Ronald Reagan's Brain!!!
Whoa.... And who said the repukes don't have a sense of humor.... a sick sense that is...................JD
The Dole's still owe Jesse and his klan for some slaves from back in the day. She's just giving back.
Or Viagra Bob poked trollop Liddy's kidney too hard.
billofwrites @ 20:
Not to mention, just in case I'm wrong and there is an after life this will be tormenting Helms more than whatever tortures the devil is cooking up.
Re comment@#16:
Nicole, you may want to check your firewall. It appears some spam is getting through.
[Actually, AJ, I'm not so sure it's spam. Certainly OT, but this poster has a (short) history, and has been on topic. Thanks for the heads up, though! Site Monitor]
I am sure Jesse Helms cared a lot for people with AIDS
Liddy Dole lost it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ysbaddaden @ 19:
"For Christians, the problem is not how to reconcile homosexuality with scriptural passages that condemn it, but how to reconcile the rejection and punishment of homosexuals with the love of Christ." - Rev. William Sloane Coffin
Well, that sounds almost as retarded as the idea to name an airport after Reagan. Thank god ideas that stupid never come to fruition.
There once was an inbred named Jesse
Over the issue of AIDS he was testy
His long, LONG career
Brought him up to the rear
Where his intellect died -- It was messy.
ysbaddaden @ 22:
Yeah, but Ronnie's brain still "doesn't recall" that war and drug dealing that was being done from the basement of the White House.
Makes me embarrassed to say that half my extended family lives in NC, and I cry when I say that my uncle was a Sunday School student of Jesse Helms...
You called it, watching Countdown now & he teased 2nite's worst person w/a shot of Liddy Dole
That settles it, they must be putting something in these peoples' bottled water. Nothing else can explain the past 7 years. Apparently the stuff has a cumulative effect because the craziness is ratcheting up close to full out insanity. We're going to need a crate of restraints and straitjackets on hand as their heads begin to explode.
Nicole, you need to watch more Frontline. While Helms was originally as anti-AIDS as you could get, he eventually changes his tune with the help of Bono and others.
From wikipedia:
http://bellsouthpwp.net/w/a/watts4u2/bono_and_jesse_helms.htm
Attacking a dead man like this (even a nasty one like Helms) is just more of the same "eating your young" that you guys specialize in on this blog. Cut it out.
The tyranny of the South concerns inbred bosses and compliant Dixie Mob...
Jesse actually did a flop-flop on AIDS during his final days in office...
"I have been too lax too long in doing something really significant about AIDS," Helms told hundreds of Christian AIDS activists gathered for a conference in Washington. "I'm not going to lay it aside on my agenda for the remaining months I have" in office.
Does this mean his name should be on this bill? I don't think so.
I smell poison pill
And I should know
Afterall
I have to eat
My own cooking.
It's like naming National Airport after Reagan a man who fired the air traffic controllers....not to mention that DC is overwhelmingly African American. Republicans spat in the eyes of both air traffic controllers and African Americans with that move, 2 birds with one stone! These people are shameless salt in the wound rubbers.
#1 - We are trying to get rid of her.
So much so, that talk of pushing Clay Aiken even bandied about.
I KNOW, shudder THAT thought!
What next, civil rights legislation named after Strom Thurmond and Trent Lott?
31 Billy Shears
What are you saying, I'm singing out of tune?
Alex @ 35:
Hey man, you cannot stop AIDS in Africa until you can stop the systematic rape of women and children. All the abstinence prayers in the world cannot stop rape when it is a sanctioned strategy.
Alex @ 35:
No sale, Alex. Helms was a racist, homophobic, prick. He was the stereotypical 50's redneck who never changed his limited thought patterns. He was more willing to help with AIDS in Africa because he thought it wasn't caused by "them homos".
Alex @ 35:
Ok, no one say another bad word about Hitler. He's a nasty dead man, and thus sacrosanct.
Please.
Liddy has been huffing the Aquanet again.
ysbaddaden @ 42:
Do you know the joke about Billy Shears?
Alex @ 35:
So he had a "Come to Jesus" moment after he no longer needed to pander to his base. Bravo!
Just imagine how the virus might have been held in check, globally, had he had his epiphany 10 or 15 years earlier. But, hey, he hadn't made retirement plans in the '80's.
The Democratic congress should either change the name of National Airport back to "Washington National" or rename it after an African American (reflecting DC's large African American residency like Jackson airport in Atlanta reflects Atlanta's large African American population) and/or someone who wasn't hostile to the air traffic controllers like Reagan was. To this day I refuse to say "Reagan National" it's still Washington National to me.
47 Billy Shears Says: ysbaddaden @ 42:
31 Billy Shears
What are you saying, I’m singing out of tune?
Do you know the joke about Billy Shears?
He became Eunice the Eunuch?
In five years he'll be honored in some obscenely over the top way by his reslug worshipers for being a 'champion' for AIDS research.
I should put money on it.
So obscene, so revolting, I may throw up.
Alex @ 35:
May his grave be covered in fresh urine stains forever.
Alex @ 35:
Frankly, I don't think that Helms has been anyone's "young" for at least fifty years or so. I truly loved the "watch more Frontline', followed by a Wikipedia entry and the grand finale of some unknown person's webpage. Classic.
47 Billy Shears Says: ysbaddaden @ 42:
31 Billy Shears
What are you saying, I’m singing out of tune?
Do you know the joke about Billy Shears?
________________________________________________
That Peter Frampton played him?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xos2MnVxe-c
Wow. Astounding. Wouldn't Helms see this as insulting, too?
ysbaddaden @ 50:
Paul McCartney, was claimed to have died in a car wreck in November of 1966. The remaining Beatles decided to replace Paul with the winner of a Paul McCartney look-a-like contest. The winners name was William Shears Campbell. The Beatles apparently enjoyed this story so much they wanted to play along with it, and came up with the ending segue in the title song...
...So let me introduce to you
The one and only Billy Shears
And Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band.
The joke is that Billy Shears comes out looking every bit like Paul, but sounding like Ringo.
What would you think if I sang out of tune,
Would you stand up and walk out on me.
Lend me your ears and I'll sing you a song,
And I'll try not to sing out of key...
Batocchio @ 56:
There is some irony to the whole thing. Jesse finally does something good for people, it just happened after he died and without his input.
Perhaps it wants it because the creature was responsible for so many cases of Tuberculosis due it its support of the tobacco industry.
(I can't refer the these subhumans in human terms.)
EPN
And while we're at it, how about a Strom Thurmond Civil Rights Act.
Jeezus Rick Rolling Christ!
57 Billy Shears
I remember the Paul is dead story, I was eight at the time, and refused to believe it. I was developing a sense of the publicity stunt from watching Bewitched (Darren was an advertising executive.)
Interestingly, Vincent Damon Furnier was also supposedly killed in car wreck of his band's van, and then a Southern Californian cop asked him who he was.
He briefly came to long enough to answere Alice Cooper (supposedly the reincarnation of a 16th century adolescent Witch), before passing out again.
Kay Hagan is ready to replace Dole in the Senate... help if you can
Below is the FAX I just sent to Dole expressing my outrage at her shennigans.
But first, her contact info:
The Honorable Liddy Dole
555 Dirksen Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
Office: (202) 224-6342
FAX: (202) 224-1100
A fill-in email form: http://www.congress.org/congressorg/webreturn/?url=http://dole.senate.gov
“There is not one single case of AIDS in this country that cannot be traced in origin to sodomy.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_R.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaëtan_Dugas
And before you flame me I lost my Uncle (who was straight) to an illness he got from a blood transfution ok?
Helms was a dick and doesn't deserve to have the bill named after him for dozens of reasons but facts are facts.
I don’t know about you, but I smell a Worst Person in The World award going to one Liddy Dole for this crushingly insensitive move.
Is it really crushing insensitivity? Or does it reflect Dole's shared beliefs that people who contract AIDS do so as a result of their “deliberate, disgusting, revolting conduct?”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_R.
I think it is the funniest thing I have heard all week. What better Fuckyou (pardon) To Jesse Wanker Helms, Then to Name a Bill after him that he would have HATED. Sorry I understand what you guys are saying, but when I heard this news I couldn't help laughing
You know, instead of attacking MoveOn and every Dem supporter they can think of to throw under the bus, how about Harold Ford, Obama, and the rest of the Dem party establishment publicly attack these affronts?
Or would that take too much courage? It's much easier attacking harmless little DFHs.
What are you kidding? Liddy's too stupid too understand that naming an "AIDS" bill for Jesse Helms is such a slap in his face, not the other way around. He's probably rolling over in his grave. Let's do it.
Couldn't we just rename AIDS after Jesse Helms? That would seem much more appropriate.
the repugs are trying to change their faces.
they'll have three instead of two.
that's all.
andrew Says: I think it is the funniest thing I have heard all week. What better Fuckyou (pardon) To Jesse Wanker Helms, Then to Name a Bill after him that he would have HATED. Sorry I understand what you guys are saying, but when I heard this news I couldn’t help laughing
I am with you. My only concern is that people may, in time, come to associate Helms with the bill and not with the effluvium of hate that he spewed.
I'm thinking Dole's idea isn't such a bad one. As long as the bill contains a provision that the anus is now called the "Helm" and those who enjoy anal intercourse now be referred to as "Helmsmen"
I hate her, but her nickname is Libby . . . someone is really fucking up and giving the right wing ammo to hammer the 'lefty idiocy' . . . please, satire is a detailed and contracted sport, use it intelligently.
LIBBY Dole. Geez, no WONDER we can't win shit for a progressive cause . . .
And no, I don't accept that LIDDY Dole is sarcasm, satire, or anything else but STUPID SHIT!!!
May she rot in hell, though . . .
larue @ 74:
No. Her nickname IS 'Liddy'
I agree with a few many people on this forum....
We should give this bill the name of the person who would disagree with it (Jesse Helms). This is something that is synonymous to me in the naming of a sewage refuse plant after George W Bush.
It's an awful illness that inflicts many americans. And, the only way to spread the concern for it is through a media presence. It's not something you would talk about unless you have to. The easiest way to reference it is to associate a name with the illness, much like many illnesses have come before. I suffer myself from Charcot-Marie-Tooth disease, and I (even though I have the disease) value that I can signify it in a simple way.
While HIV/AIDS was not diagnosed by Jesse Helms, I wiould like that he is forever remebered by his (lack of) contribution to the subject.
I forever want him to be remembered for the kind of insensitivity he has given people regardless of his political background.
miss_kitty @ 75:
As a North Carolinian who voted against her, but has watched her rise in politics, I know her nickname is Liddy.
Vote Kay Hagan.
Naming the AID's bill after helm's a bad idea
But maybe they could use his name on a bill to promote homoerotic art.
Given Helm's views on AIDS, it strikes me that to have a major AIDS bill carrying his name provides a certain irony and a great deal of levity ... if not perfect poetic justice.
>...Elizabeth Dole spits in the face of LGBTs...<
Uh, excuse me? So the only people offended by this, in fact, the only ones affected by AIDS are LGBTs?
Sounds like something Mr. Helms would say.
I was no fan of Helms. I never voted for him. However, he did have a change of heart on AIDS. If you google Jesse Helms and Bono you can get plenty of articles that are dated after 1998. People, even someone whom I opposed as much as Helms, can change.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1187308,00.html
http://bellsouthpwp.net/w/a/watts4u2/bono_and_jesse_helms.htm
J'all hear helms once tried to close a museum showing on primitive man?
He heard they had a display of Homo Erectus.
CAlI @ 64:
By your logic, then, you can be traced to adultery because the first humans weren't married.
Liddy "Dolt"!
Insufferable "pollyanna"!
And THAT plastic faux lipstick smile! Was that the basis for the "Joker" makeup?
Curtsie!
Ask Liddon Inc and Merck Inc where HIV came from. Or look it up on Google/Youtube. You can see the interview which details the crime of infecting millions of Gay Americans and Blacks.
I can't look at her without imagining Bob taking his Viagra and jumping her! I know it's a horrible thought, but when he became a spokesman for it several years ago - it popped into my mind and unfortunately it won't leave.
Okay, this is truly unfucking believable!
Rusty Shackleford @ 83:
According to secular logic marriage is a human construct.
AIDS is a reality.
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