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  How many more of these will it take before we finally dispense with the idea that John McCain is some sort of foreign policy genius who is uniquely qualified to be commander-in-chief? Today on "Good Morning America," John McCain was asked whether he agreed with Barack Obama when he says the situation in Afghanistan is "precarious and urgent." In predictable fashion, McCain downplays the significance of the deteriorating security situation there. In perhaps less predictable fashion, he magically redraws the borders of two Middle Eastern countries.

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We have a lot of work to do. It's a very hard struggle, particularly given the situation on the Iraq-Pakistan border.

I doubt anyone here really needs me to do this, but here we go:

As you can clearly see, there is no common border between Iraq and Pakistan. Just another gaffe to add to the pile.



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the Iraq-Pakistan border?

Is anyone else creeped out?

Well....

And the reich-wing MSM will continue to pimp for McGrampa for his strong foreign policy "credentials". What a fraud.

CAlI @ 1:

the Iraq-Pakistan border?

Is anyone else creeped out?

Yeah...maybe he's more in the know than the rest of us....PFFFFFFFT!!! Aaahahahahahahaaaaa!

Poor bastard. Can't they just let him go home now?

Not he meant the Iraq / Pakistan border -- it just happens to be a very deep border -- which happens to be Iran. Under the McCain plan there will be a thinner boarder between Iraq and Pakistan. All hail neo-con geography: Where you see borders -- we see opportunities...

This will make more sense to you after we've invaded Iran and combined iwth Iraq.

Maybe he just sees Iran as the big border between Iraq and Pakistan.

Oh god, don't let this man win in November. Just the thought of it scares me so much. He's like a guy playing a candidate in some sort of freaky satirical movie.

Anyone who states there is no difference between the two candidates either isn't paying attention or they are tuning out reality.

We have a lot of work to do. It’s a very hard struggle, particularly given the situation on the Iraq-Pakistan border.

It's all a matter of semantics.

McCain calls it "the Iraq-Pakistan border" ..

Other people call it "Iran" ..

stevek - you beat me to it!!! Well played.

He has to be the first politician to say Iraq when he meant Iran.

Now if he said he'd be President for the next eight to ten years, then you should be creeped out, and rightly so.

yes you needed to do that!
Some of us really need help with geography at times.

Usually you can tell what the hell he's talking about/means even when he screws things up, but I don't get this one. Seriously, what the hell was he talking about...?

Oh grandpa, you're overdue for your meds...

Well, it does make sense. The “Iraq-Pakistan Border” IS extremely dangerous. And what he wants to do about it is bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran ....

What McSame meant to say is his presidency promises to bring more bloodshed from Iraq to the Pakistan border.

McSame is really a shame.

mccain wants the title of president, but he really doesn't want the job.

Lest we forget GW couldn't tell the difference between the middle-east and the middle-west when he ran in 2000.

I guess if you think on it he has brought the border of Iraq up against the Ohio border, maybe there, now, isn't a difference between the mid west and the mid east.

What's next??? Austria, Australia, it's all the McSame to the doddering old twat. 300 million Americans and THIS is what's offered as Presidential material??? We're soooooo fucked...

Its actually a pretty common mistake of McCain to confuse Afghanistan and Iraq, see when he says "Iraq is the central front on the war on terror" what he REALLY means to say is "Afghanistan is the central front on the war on terror"

I saw the whole interview this morning and it was riduculous. He avoided answering questions he didn't like and generally was weak and worthless.

If Obama said something like Iraq/Pakistan and avoided answering questions the the flying monkeys from the MSM would already be doing their 24/7 continuous loop outrage. Instead, they give this senile dufus a pass. A little biased, perhaps?

McSame is there to continue the endless war for the military industrial complex and oil companies...and to cover for the thugs in the crime family. They know they need him to give them pardons. Look at what Ronnie Reagan and Daddy Bush did as well as Ford who pardoned Richard M. Nixon. Crime families stick together.

I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to locate the Iraq-Pakistan border because some people out there in our nation don't have maps and I believe that our education like such as in South Africa and in the Iraq everywhere like such as and I believe that they should..... our education over HERE in the U.S. should help the U.S. errmm... should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries so we will be able to build up our future.

Amazingly this will be forgotten by tomorrow morning.

McCain the media darling.

The poor senile shell-of-bastard McGrampa is making this too easy for Obama and the Dems. The dementia of McGrampa continues to grow and he now claims he knows best and rejects Maliki’s/Obama's timetable But Says ‘I Know What Iraqis Want’ and he claims "I Know How To Win Wars"...coming from a shell-of-a-man who surrendered to the enemy.

But whatever you do, don't say he's "confused" - the definition of that word has been changed to mean "a derogatory term for a senile elderly person" in the FoxNews/McRight-Wing Dictionary. If you switch to "ignorant" that word will be changed to mean an insult to those in their golden years as well...

Johnny boy is showing us he is qualified to be the host at the Miss Teenage America pagent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww

And this young lady comes from South Carolina, Lindsey Graham's state. Between these two that doesn't say much for South Carolina's education system.

pissed off patricia @ 8:

Maybe he just sees Iran as the big border between Iraq and Pakistan.

Oh god, don't let this man win in November. Just the thought of it scares me so much. He's like a guy playing a candidate in some sort of freaky satirical movie.

Anyone who states there is no difference between the two candidates either isn't paying attention or they are tuning out reality.

right on the money. as a Pakistani, I can further assure everyone, we do not share a border with Iraq. Just in case the map wasnt enough. :)

but does it really matter if you look at the entire arab world as being one big blob of 'islamists'? matter of perception.

The border error was horrible enough for someone who claims to know what's going on in that neck of the woods. What sealed it for me was the very end of the clip where claimed "It did work, and we have succeeded...thank God!" followed by a chuckle...extremely creepy.

right wing: "oh forgive him he is old and forgets things but he really meant x"

if he forgets things or screws up like that, it is a sign that he is TOO DAMN FEEBLE.

also: #23 is my personal hero today. THANK YOU SIR

The following is an example of an idiot defending an idiot:

dennis @ 11:

He has to be the first politician to say Iraq when he meant Iran.

Now if he said he'd be President for the next eight to ten years, then you should be creeped out, and rightly so.

Arrogant, feeble and mean are not the characteristics we need in our next president.

Aren't we fed up with leaders who are sure they are right all of the time?

dennis @ 11:

He has to be the first politician to say Iraq when he meant Iran.

Now if he said he'd be President for the next eight to ten years, then you should be creeped out, and rightly so.

Dennis, I agree. If he wanted to establish a diplomatic relationship with them for the next eight to ten years I'd be less 'creeped out' than I would be if he didn't own a globe.

I have the distinct feeling that the border between John McCain's frontal and occipital lobes is failing.

at least he didn't say czechoslovakia(stan)

redcat @ 17:

mccain wants the title of president, but he really doesn't want the job.

More like his wife wants to be first lady.

You know, the Iraq/Pakistan, it's just near the "country of Africa" :-)

Saint Augustine @ 31:

The following is an example of an idiot defending an idiot:

princess @ 11:

He has to be the first politician to say Iraq when he meant Iran.

The only problem, McGrampa's long history of senility and dementia is making it quite clear that he didn't mean Iran.

This shell-of-a-man is convinced that Czechoslovakia still exists....talk about creepy.

I'll probably be accused of trolling, but I'm willing to cut him some slack on the misspeak (until he repeats it tomorrow). I haven't seen the whole interview but what offends me in this clip is that his manner is so smug when belittling Obama and his repeating "the surge has worked" talking point, even going so far as to thank God. I thought that Bush was the only one taking military advice from the almighty.

dennis @ 11:

He has to be the first politician to say Iraq when he meant Iran.

Now if he said he'd be President for the next eight to ten years, then you should be creeped out, and rightly so.

Um, yeah Dennis, and the correction Joe Lieberman had to whisper in his ear? How many mistakes does John MisCue get to make before we should get concerned?

Can the right not produce any better trolls than this? This town needs a better class of troll (couldn't resist).

constituent @ 36:

at least he didn't say czechoslovakia(stan)

Or lament the suffering of the Fartknockistanis

'New York Times' turns down an op-ed from McCain

John McCain's presidential campaign confirms for us some news that the Drudge Report broke earlier -- The New York Times has declined to publish an op-ed piece by the Republican presidential contender.

A copy of what McCain wrote is posted here. It is mostly, as you'll see, a response to Democratic contender Barack Obama's views on what to do in Iraq -- and a response to the opinion piece written by Obama that the Times published on July 14. Obama's column was called "My Plan for Iraq."

Drudge says that Times op-ed editor David Shipley told the McCain campaign that the Republican senator's submission did not have enough in it about what McCain's plan for Iraq would be. Shipley invited the campaign to submit another draft.

McCain campaign spokesman Tucker Bounds sent us this comment about all this: "John McCain believes that victory in Iraq must be based on conditions on the ground, not arbitrary timetables. Unlike Barack Obama, that position will not change based on politics or the demands of The New York Times."

We'll decide what victory looks like when it happens ..

Saint Augustine @ 31:

The following is an example of an idiot defending an idiot:

dennis @ 11:

He has to be the first politician to say Iraq when he meant Iran.

Now if he said he'd be President for the next eight to ten years, then you should be creeped out, and rightly so.

Hey! Easy there St. Augustine!!! Dennis is no mere idiot. He's a moron of the highest magnitude.

Crunch @ 23:

I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to locate the Iraq-Pakistan border because some people out there in our nation don't have maps and I believe that our education like such as in South Africa and in the Iraq everywhere like such as and I believe that they should..... our education over HERE in the U.S. should help the U.S. errmm... should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries so we will be able to build up our future.

LOL and such as....

Ruthless People @ 43:

Grampa McCain goes on.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW5Eqycf4d4&NR=1

LOL. Well done.

Normally, I don't think anything in particular about these gaffes (perhaps he meant to say Iran-Pakistan but oopsed), but didn't he make this mistake at least once before? I can't remember exactly, but I could swear he said this a month ago too.

I dunno, I'm worried about the Siam/Persian border... Apparently a lot of Ceylonese gathering there, along with a lot of Goths ready to take on the Romans and the Spartans.....

I just saw AB Stoddard on MSNBC apologizing for McCain once again. He is a maverick don’t you know. She was towing the party line that McCain has a so-called wealth of experience, knowledge and expertise in foreign policy matters and because of this we should give him a break. REALLY. I think the opposite holds true. A candidate with this much experience should be held to the highest standards. He should to know better. The MSM needs to quit patting Johnny on the head when he fucks ups. Which seems to be all the time lately

We've had a bad situation here on the Texas/Kansas border lately too.

ronnyg @ 35:

I have the distinct feeling that the border between John McCain's frontal and occipital lobes is failing.

I think you are exactly right. He likes all the fanfare but he's not crazy about the effort it takes and the need for having to make sense all the time. He enjoys playing the poor old army hero who just wants to help his country by sitting in the oval office that he feels he's entitled to now.

McGrampa's immigration policy includes securing the Florida-Mexico border.

Did you see how proud he was of his jab on Obama? With that giggle at the end? Holy Moly, are we in deep .....

This guy gets his geographical factoids from a big globe spray-painted over with an "us and them" motif. Somebody in his camp
should wrestle that 1948 Rand-McNally Atlas out of his claws while he's napping.

JudyLou @ 50:

We've had a bad situation here on the Texas/Kansas border lately too.

Did you hear that from Abe McSimpson's mouth?...

I just looked at a satellite image of that area and I couldn't see any borders or lines at all. I think humans just make all this shit up so they can kill each other.

mcfuckhead must have coached the miss america
girl that was soooo stupid. i am surprised this
idiot knows which foot to step into his depends first.
oh sorry, he thinks it's a head warmer with two
massage holes.

Had he not consistently made the Czechoslovakia comment last week I would think he was making a witty reference to Iran. Sadly, I think he just has dementia.

Dr. Hussein Matt @ 52:

McGrampa's immigration policy includes securing the Florida-Mexico border.

LOL!! Yeah, but I hear the tanks keep sinking...

redcat @ 17:

mccain wants the title of president, but he really doesn't want the job.

Oops, my comment was in regard to this one, not number 35. I guess I got lost on the border between comment #17 and comment #35

Maybe it will work out just like Mr Magoo? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4EUkIqE4tg Details never seemed to bother him either.

Tell McCain I think I located his estranged grand daughter! http://youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww

I thought he was the "expert" on foreign policy?

He just says what his moving base wants to hear. Nothing more, nothing less.

I'm just waiting for him to go completely off kilter, yelling, "HEY! You terrorists, get off of the grass!" from the front porch of the retirement home. Given his geography lesson in today's clip, that day isn't too far off. . .

And of course nobody called him on it, just like Dan Rather saying Osama bin Laden when he meant Barack Obama, and nobody said a thing. We have the most uneducated, dangerous press in the world.

pissed off patricia @ 51:

ronnyg @ 35:

I have the distinct feeling that the border between John McCain's frontal and occipital lobes is failing.

I think you are exactly right. He likes all the fanfare but he's not crazy about the effort it takes and the need for having to make sense all the time. He enjoys playing the poor old army hero who just wants to help his country by sitting in the oval office that he feels he's entitled to now.

the only thing mcfuckhead is entitled to is
a resounding STFU.

McCain did not misspeak.

He just decided that all of Iran is the border between Iraq and Afghanistan... After all, Iran is in quite a "situation"

What people don't realize is just how subtle McCain's genius is, playing you all for fools as the doddering old fart while using masterful subliminal warmongering the entire time...

MWHAHAHA

Isn't it a little premature to be pronouncing the surge a success? How many troops have exited Iraq? Are they all on leave there, enjoying the local sites before coming home to a failing economy?

There are a lot of problems on the Canadian and Mexican border too.

Yes, McCain misspoke so that makes him a blithering idiot. You know, like when Obama said he'd visited 57 states or when he said, as president, he'd be dealing with problems in the Middle East for 8 to 10 years. This is the verbal equivalent of a typo. Big deal.

there may not be a border between iraq in pakistan, but the situation in between them is IRAN. just a stupidly veiled way of saying it.

That was a Freudian slip, because he's got going to war with Iran so much on his mind.

I'm tickled pink that the splurge has worked on Pakistan.

Here's McCain's play book. Say any damned thing about the wars and sound serious as hell and a little sad. Then throw in something inane about Obama and chuckle. Now look around to see if anyone is laughing along with you. If they aren't, make a strange face and start from step one again.

That's bad even by US standards, the distance between Iraq and Pakistan is too big to even be a simple mistake. If he'd said Afghanistan and Pakistan, it would be different.

Johnny @ 70:

Yes, McCain misspoke so that makes him a blithering idiot. You know, like when Obama said he'd visited 57 states or when he said, as president, he'd be dealing with problems in the Middle East for 8 to 10 years. This is the verbal equivalent of a typo. Big deal.

Is that why McCain has other people use the internet for him? He can't type?

Literally and figuratively?

JudyLou @ 50:

We've had a bad situation here on the Texas/Kansas border lately too.

You THINK it's bad now...wait until football season...Go Tigers!

didn't read all the previous posts so don't know if someone mentioned this but considering this demented hawks desire to wage war I just assume he was referring to the border region between iraq and pakistan he would like to go to war with, i.e. iran.

At least he didn't divulge Obama travel schedule. Oh wait.......nevermind.

How much money we wanna bet the Lame Stream Media will be virtually silent on this?

Awwww, that's just John being John. Hey John, al-Qaeda is in Israel, should we bomb them?

If only Grandpa could use a computer. He could use the Google or the Mapquest.

"Bart, from here you can see the four states that border Springfield."

Ned

"Get off of my Lawn!"

McCain

YEess Iran is a border, a DMZ of sorts. ROFLMAO!

Liberal AND Proud @ 82:

If only Grandpa could use a computer. He could use the Google or the Mapquest.

McGrampa is still getting use to not having to use a hand-crank to start a car.

I can't even tell anyone I know about this. They won't get it, then they'll end up identifying with MCain.

The problem is that Lieberman was not bordering his shoulder.

Maybe al qaeda is being shipped from Iraq to Iran to be trained then sent to Pakistan? What would Lieberman say to that?

Bordering on genius again! Wow, just wow.

This should set those who worry about Obama's experience at ease. Not only was McCains geography wrong but the surge only helped because we paid off the insurgents.
"Thank God it worked". It's been working well for all the congressmen (bribes), why should this be any different?
The only reason someone would vote for McCain over Obama is if they were racist or dumb enough to believe all the neocon lies.

Weaseldog @ 86:

I can't even tell anyone I know about this. They won't get it, then they'll end up identifying with MCain.

Guess you won't be giving them a gift subscription to the New Yorker, either.

RichStraightWhiteAmericanMale @ 65:

And of course nobody called him on it, just like Dan Rather saying Osama bin Laden when he meant Barack Obama, and nobody said a thing. We have the most uneducated, dangerous press in the world.

You said it dead on, this bullshit is highly unstable.

It's the new Neo-Con name for Iran. Sort of like the DMZ between North and South Korea...just wider and with people in it. Brown people.

Iraqistan

WR @ 90:

This should set those who worry about Obama's experience at ease. Not only was McCains geography wrong but the surge only helped because we paid off the insurgents.

We only had to pay off the insurgents because Americans won't pick lettuce in the hot sun no matter how much you pay them.

You loony libs! There is an Iraq-Pakistan border...it's called 'Iran', for your freedom-hating information.

It's the most dangerous border in the world, and must be nuked forthwith!

Jay Severin Has A Small Pen1s @ 93:

It's the new Neo-Con name for Iran. Sort of like the DMZ between North and South Korea...just wider and with people in it. Brown people.

Iraqistan

Shiasunnislovakia

Did Diane Sawyer even notice?

Please don't vote for this man. He is a big embarrassment.

I'm worried about the iraq-china border. (coming next month)

Will Obama have a foto-op on th iraq pakistan border while there?
He may not be able to find it.

VietVet67 @ 81:

Awwww, that's just John being John. Hey John, al-Qaeda is in Israel, should we bomb them?

Did I miss an ape joke? Rape joke? Is Janet Reno is Pakisslovakia? Marvelous!

Tom M @ 98:

Please don't vote for this man. He is a big embarrassment.

Thanks for the advice, Tom. I almost made a big mistake. Thanks again.

casper46 @ 97:

Did Diane Sawyer even notice?

Did she notice who she was working for in the Nixon administration?

jones @ 40:

I'll probably be accused of trolling, but I'm willing to cut him some slack on the misspeak (until he repeats it tomorrow). I haven't seen the whole interview but what offends me in this clip is that his manner is so smug when belittling Obama and his repeating "the surge has worked" talking point, even going so far as to thank God. I thought that Bush was the only one taking military advice from the almighty.

I agree. This isn't the same as thinking Czechoslovakia still exists or not knowing that Al Queda would never train in Iran or not knowing the difference between Shia and Sunni. This seemed like just a simple mis-statement. Even if you aren't senile when you are speaking on tape as often as a candidate has to they are bound to happen. I also agree the smug tone is the real offense here. Which is not to say I still haven't enjoyed all the jokes at McCain's expense.

casper46 @ 97:

Did Diane Sawyer even notice?

well, for that she need to know the fact !!!

She is typical, Teeth smiling dum host with hardly any know-how about rest of the world

now i'm waiting patiently for brad blakeman's explaination
of this gaffe......he is the can do no wrong repbublican
strategist on the dan abrams show

Don't worry John.....most of the lock-stepping Repubs will commence with the Obama-hates-white-people-and-is-also-loves-al-Qaeda quips really soon to help quell the mistake(s). Besides, EVERYONE KNOWS you meant the Saudi Arabia-Pakistan border.

Or was it the Iran-Germany border.....or, ugh, was it Turkey-Egypt? Uhmmmmm, Canadian-Sweden? Shit.

Well, there's also Obama's "problem" of not wearing a flag pin all the time.

Um, will somebody give the old guy a map. Not only does the mentally unstable, tortured old coot have no idea about the economy, he has no idea about foreign country locations.

This should not even be close.

Geez.

Maybe he meant the Iraq-Czechoslovakia border.

Of course they share a border. It's called Iran.

Beer Veto !!

Godfry Daniel @ 56:

I just looked at a satellite image of that area and I couldn't see any borders or lines at all. I think humans just make all this shit up so they can kill each other.

BRAVO Godfry Daniel,That just needs to be said again and again.

"I got lost on the road somewhere.
Was it Texas or was it Canada?"
-- Alice

Wait til McOldStupidAsshole gets a load of how BIG Iran is...

It reminds me of the TV show about 5 or 6 years ago--after
September 11--wherein a "terrorist snuck in to the US crossing
over from Ontario into Vermont.

That's an awfully long stretch--geographically and physically.

But, hey,some Americans don't know geography unless
there's a war on.

i wish he would have been called on it in real time. now he'll be feed some response........i think most of us
understand mistakes and that they happen. the reason were jumping on this is because if obama even coughs
wrong it talked about for days. we are just putting
pressure on the mcBush campaign....necessary evil.

Torontonian @ 114:

It reminds me of the TV show about 5 or 6 years ago--after
September 11--wherein a "terrorist snuck in to the US crossing
over from Ontario into Vermont.

That's an awfully long stretch--geographically and physically.

But, hey,some Americans don't know geography unless
there's a war on.

Or an election?

I don't get you liberals. Don't you understand Republican foreign policy at all? Look at the map! After John "bomb, bomb, bomb Iran" McCain is elected President, Iraq and Pakistan WILL share a common border, sort of right down the middle of that blue part.

Well, you know no end of Missing in Action films had Chuck Norris escaping Vietnam across the border into Thailand so ...

After a decade of GOP control in congress, 2 oil men in the White House, bombing of an oil rich country, record oil company profits, we now have gas prices approaching 5 dollars a gallon. Who does Grampa Abe McCain blame for the high gas prices in his latest ad? Obama!! http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080721/ap_on_el_pr/mccain

Grandpa will say the darndest things when he's off his meds.

(sarcasm) "Oh dear, details, details....Are you expecting the Republican nominee for President to know, like geography and politics too?" McDumbass should just hang it up soon. We've had enough of C and D students as "leaders". Let's get a smart one again....

This really is not terribly difficult stuff for someone who's job as a Senator and presidential candidate is to know this kind of thing. I'm curious what exactly McCain spends his time doing if he hasn't quite made a point of solidifying this knowledge. This is really basic stuff. And to reiterate - it's his job as a Senator to stay on top of this kind of thing. It is one of the things he is ostensibly being paid by taxpayers to do. And yet he knows absolutely nothing and doesn't much seem to care. I suppose that's the attitude that lands you fifth from the bottom at the Naval Academy.

In other professions, failure to possess such basic essential knowledge is known as malpractice. Doctors are required to learn the entire freaking musculoskeletal system, which is a hell of a lot more complicated than basic geography. And they are required to work to maintain their knowledge and to stay abreast of medical developments. Same for lawyers and accountants - you've got continuing learning requirements and if you waltz around demonstrating this sort of comic incompetence, you'll have your license pulled. Every profession operates on the same principles. A mechanic needs to study the changes that are made to automotive models from year to year. A electician needs to stay on top of building and zoning requirements. The list goes on and on.

Look, it's not easy to be a doctor, an accountant, a lawyer, a mechanic, or an electrician. It takes a lot of work. And it's necessary that people put in that work so we don't have doctors mistaking appendicitis for indigestion or electricians installing faulty wiring and causing houses to burn down. So you want to be a doctor but you don't want to deal with med. school? Too bad for you. You have to work for it. McCain, to put the point bluntly, does not seem to think he is required to do any real work or to actually study and understand things himself. He's simply not interested in doing the work that goes with the position. And the Office of the President is, after all, a JOB - not a prize, not a title, but a full time around-the-clock job.

won't someone PULEEZE show him how to use the mapquest.com or the yahoomaps or something on the internets??!!??

be fair. He is being a poll responder.
some polls has shown most Americans couldn't point out Iraq on a map, I'm guessing that most don't know that Iran is inbetween either. McCain is just pitching his presidential campaign to the average Joe.

I'm betting none of the MSM network newscasts carry anything about the gaffe. However, Obama's major faux paus of meeting with foreign leaders, coalition and U.S. troops and commanding generals ONLY for photo ops, will be story # 1.

A comedy television programme in Australia called The Chaser went around and interviewed some Americans about Iran, with Australia labelled as Iran.

An alarming number of people bought it and amongst other things, I think I remember "military action" being talked about.

My 8 year old and 9 year old nephews both know he's wrong thanks to actually going though a decent education system ........ and they keep asking me "what is wrong with with the american people" ........ from the mouths of babes they say.

Maybe it borers with places like "such as" and "the Iraq" ...........

Maybe he needs the US maps.

Fucking idiot.

Sachem @ 33:

Arrogant, feeble and mean are not the characteristics we need in our next president.

Aren't we fed up with leaders who are sure they are right all of the time?

Indeed, though it's what you're going to get, 51% / 49% with CNN spinning the shit storm all the way .......... sad, hopefully the economy will of collapsed by then and the rest of the world can just ignore america and get on dealing with each other properly, opposed to the US way.

One can hope.

Maybe this is how he crashed so many planes. Got confused and couldn't tell the difference between North and South Vietnam or maybe the carrier.

One of those won't clear you for a landing.

Is it possible he is obliquely referring to that rather broad light green patch in between? Nah he was just being old.

Dr. Hussein Matt @ 46:

Ruthless People @ 43:

Grampa McCain goes on.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW5Eqycf4d4&NR=1

LOL. Well done.

Ruthless yet funny.

Hey McC*nt, it's simple.

Before you trash someone....make sure you have your facts straight.

Can you handle that, shithead?

I think the saddest thing about this, and maybe the biggest problem, is that most Americans won't even know that "Mr. Foreign Relations - Comander-in-Chief at the Ready" made such a stupid gaffe, as they have no clue what countries border each other in the ME (presnet company excluded).

No, really. McGrandpa knew exactly what he was saying. He was talking Iran without actually naming it. Now everyone is doing that job for him, saying it over and over and over.. Everyone now knows he was saying that we should be worrying more about Iran, and yet he doesn't have to be held accountable for actually saying that, because you and everyone else who thought he is just being stupid are putting the meaning into it without him putting those words in his mouth. Rich people don't work, they know how to influence people to do their work for them... money is only one means of achieving that.

Score one for McCain, people. sorry. but that's the truth. PLAYED!

But hell, I don't know how to get around it at this point. He's good at making people choose between bad and worse.

dennis @ 11:

He has to be the first politician to say Iraq when he meant Iran.

Maybe so. But surely it would have made a lot more sense if it was the Pakistan/Afghanistan border... not Iran.

Progressive Libertarian @ 121:

This really is not terribly difficult stuff for someone who's job as a Senator and presidential candidate is to know this kind of thing. I'm curious what exactly McCain spends his time doing if he hasn't quite made a point of solidifying this knowledge. This is really basic stuff. And to reiterate - it's his job as a Senator to stay on top of this kind of thing. It is one of the things he is ostensibly being paid by taxpayers to do. And yet he knows absolutely nothing and doesn't much seem to care. I suppose that's the attitude that lands you fifth from the bottom at the Naval Academy.

In other professions, failure to possess such basic essential knowledge is known as malpractice. Doctors are required to learn the entire freaking musculoskeletal system, which is a hell of a lot more complicated than basic geography. And they are required to work to maintain their knowledge and to stay abreast of medical developments. Same for lawyers and accountants - you've got continuing learning requirements and if you waltz around demonstrating this sort of comic incompetence, you'll have your license pulled. Every profession operates on the same principles. A mechanic needs to study the changes that are made to automotive models from year to year. A electician needs to stay on top of building and zoning requirements. The list goes on and on.

Look, it's not easy to be a doctor, an accountant, a lawyer, a mechanic, or an electrician. It takes a lot of work. And it's necessary that people put in that work so we don't have doctors mistaking appendicitis for indigestion or electricians installing faulty wiring and causing houses to burn down. So you want to be a doctor but you don't want to deal with med. school? Too bad for you. You have to work for it. McCain, to put the point bluntly, does not seem to think he is required to do any real work or to actually study and understand things himself. He's simply not interested in doing the work that goes with the position. And the Office of the President is, after all, a JOB - not a prize, not a title, but a full time around-the-clock job.

Well said. But then again, like Georgie, he'll end up surrounding himself with neocons who will do the thinking for him.

They'll roll John out for the occasional awkward press conference or speech by grandpa while the fascist cabal worries about the policy.

Kind of like Reagan, but dramatically and frighteningly worse.

What a pathetic default wannabe McCain is! If today's Republicans required a minimum of intelligence and competence from their presidential candidates, they might have found someone who knows enough about politics not to voluntarily demonstrate his or her intellectual inferiority in matters of economics, geography and Middle Eastern religion and politics. And thinking that Cechezlovakia still exists and that gorilla rape jokes are funny isn't exactly something I'd want everyone to known either. Today's Republican candidates are so unqualified and ethically bankrupt, they actually spend more time defending their transparent stupidities than they do trying to prevent themselves from being stupid. Someone needs to ask John McCain why he can't learn what all the other Senators and Representatives in congress are required to know to do their jobs effectively. Someone needs to ask him why he hasn't taken the time to learn what today's average high school students know. McCain isn't just ignorant, he's too lazy and irresponsibly indifferent to actually care about learning the things that he doesn't know. Why should he actually apply himself? He only wants to president. And if George W. Bush has made one thing very clear, it's that Republican presidents only have to know how to lie. Facts and truth are inconsequential.

Amitola @ 131:

I think the saddest thing about this, and maybe the biggest problem, is that most Americans won't even know that "Mr. Foreign Relations - Comander-in-Chief at the Ready" made such a stupid gaffe, as they have no clue what countries border each other in the ME (presnet company excluded).

And what % can't even point out the US on a world map .............

Don't think McCain likes maps? Don't even get him started on the metric system... http://youtube.com/watch?v=R7YTf08xjpE

Wise_Fool @ 132:

No, really. McGrandpa knew exactly what he was saying. He was talking Iran without actually naming it. Now everyone is doing that job for him, saying it over and over and over.. Everyone now knows he was saying that we should be worrying more about Iran, and yet he doesn't have to be held accountable for actually saying that, because you and everyone else who thought he is just being stupid are putting the meaning into it without him putting those words in his mouth. Rich people don't work, they know how to influence people to do their work for them... money is only one means of achieving that.

Score one for McCain, people. sorry. but that's the truth. PLAYED!

But hell, I don't know how to get around it at this point. He's good at making people choose between bad and worse.

Well most likely he was actually talking about the Pakistan/Afghanistan border. But apparently his senility got in the way.

Amitola @ 131:

I think the saddest thing about this, and maybe the biggest problem, is that most Americans won't even know that "Mr. Foreign Relations - Comander-in-Chief at the Ready" made such a stupid gaffe, as they have no clue what countries border each other in the ME (presnet company excluded).

We need to remember that these people don't know their asses from their elbows the next time they're lying us into a war and we should trust them because they know so much more than we know...

Or maybe... It's a VERY subtle way of his way to repeat his desire to invade Iran.

Sadly, he still knows more than the average American does about world geography/history/politics... Not that this is saying much anymore.

So yeah, he's an expert... Compared to Joe and Jane Sixpack.

JimboSlice @ 20:

Its actually a pretty common mistake of McCain to confuse Afghanistan and Iraq, see when he says "Iraq is the central front on the war on terror" what he REALLY means to say is "Afghanistan is the central front on the war on terror"

It's only a common mistake among people who don't know what the hell they're talking about. Face it the guy is incompetent.

McMoron is a bad choice for preznit, how he can be a senator is a true wonder.

And this is what the repthugs offer the nation for president, a senile, doddering old fool whose demented ravings are presented as "experienced statesmanship". Anybody who claims to love this country, republican or whoever, and yet could even consider VOTING for this accomplished thief & liar who is obviously non compos mentis, is as insane as he is.

Damn kids today, just don't know their geography!

The Leave No Presidential Candidate Behind Act just doesn't seem to be working.

You couldn't send McCain to the grocery store for a loaf of bread. You don't know what he would show up with.

Would you out this man in a jet loaded with bombs?

How about instead of debate, we could watch them take a geography test? One blue book, two essay questions, O.K. John just for you, 50 questions, multiple choice!

Oh, jeez, this is just too easy.

Another stupid Republican douchebag. Seriously-- do you *have* to be an idiot to be a Republican?

And for the record, anyone who claims it's reasonable to not know that Iraq has no border with Pakistan is only admitting that they're a fucking idiot, too. Let's have some standards here, for crying out loud. If you don't know basically how the major countries in the middle east are laid out, you're an ignorant putz. If you're in the GOVERNMENT and don't have this basic knowledge, you're a shameful example of profound stupidity, and should just go the hell away.

Iran is just one big fat border-line.
I never thought they could find someone more clueless than Bush!

Dr. Hussein Matt @ 3:

And the reich-wing MSM will continue to pimp for McGrampa for his strong foreign policy "credentials". What a fraud.

No, they'll just spin that he's The Second Reagan. If they could spin George Bush into the second Lincoln on the grounds of his divisiveness, they'll have no problem spinning McCain as the second Reagan based on his age and cluelessness.

Pericles @ 148:

No, they'll just spin that he's The Second Reagan. If they could spin George Bush into the second Lincoln on the grounds of his divisiveness, they'll have no problem spinning McCain as the second Reagan based on his age and cluelessness.

The way McCain's been acting lately do they really want to bring up the possibility of Alzheimer's?

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