Too little. Too late.

Nothing will happen. I believe the country is lost as we have sat too long in our easy chairs and taken no action to stop it, and now, sadly I believe it is too late.

What took them so long? Not that it has a chance in Hell of succeeding ... but it's nice to dream.

I am poor as a church mouse and I live in Michigan but I contribute to Wexler for Congress. As much as I can.

Here is his page.

The Rethuglicans in this hearing were hilarious! Their position: Bush violated the Constutution and committed impeachable offenses and high crimes, but he meant well!

I see a lot more action in the future. The debate was absolutely decisive. Bush and Cheney are criminals by any standard.

My favorite quote was from Vince Buglosi to a Rethuglican representative making his pathetic arguement: "What previously unrecognized rule of logic would allow such a conclusion".

burningbush @ 5:

"we must ensure that history books note that this Congress stood up to this administration and formally admonished it for all its violations of law.”

History will show that this Congress enabled this adminstration every step of the way....

Unfortunately I think in the long run everybody will blame Bush and administration. History may never recognize not how many other people turned a blind eye, because doing the right thing wasn't in their personal interest :(

But where is this all going? Is this just another song and dance or are they going forward with impeachment? I mean, come on......

Jay Severin Has A Small Pen1s @ 7:

Shouldn't that say Wexler (D) Maryland...that is where he lives.

It doesn't matter if he has one of his residences in Maryland...he represents the people of his district in Florida. Wexler (D-FL ) is correct.

Bring on the hearings. If not impeachment now, imprisonment for war crimes later.

Sorry, just for show. The elections are a few months away and the spineless elites in DC want to make sure the electorate knows that they have the appearance of actually doing something that requires courage. I know that there are some, like Kucinich, that are sincere but they are being used by those that aren't within the party to do this for their own purposes. Tell me, what has come out since Pelosi took over, when she said that impeachment was off the table, that we (and especially the enabling Democrats) didn't REALLY know? Nothing, there were impeachable offenses then, most of them grave, and the Democrats did nothing. Now, after their approval rating is in the toilet and the election is a few months away, they hold a hearing where they make clear that nothing really will happen, but they'll get members of their party to pretend like something IS happening for the media, so they have an image to sell along with their PR stunt. Nice words, again delivered by some who sincerely mean what they're saying, but done cynically for show by people like Pelosi who have far more in common with the Bush criminals than the people she represents.

Noah @ 6:

What took them so long? Not that it has a chance in Hell of succeeding ... but it's nice to dream.

Please, let us WORK on this, our common dream. We must apply good old fashioned elbow grease. It is still up to us to make the right thing happen here. Get more active, make calls, talk in public, donate to impeachment causes, lets get creative and busy together!!!!!

Jackie @ 14:

But where is this all going? Is this just another song and dance or are they going forward with impeachment? I mean, come on......

There is nothing wrong with a song and dance as long as it leads in the right direction. Stop moaning and get busy!

There...

That fart did it and jostled my memory.

I got him confused with Waxman.

Given that the human race is facing possibly its greatest crisis for a very long time, the apparent loss of ability to think is the most alarming.

Wexler delevered a good opening remark.. Will it lead to anything??...(Sigh), probably not... None of the handwringing and oratory of other pols or the bitching and moaning of people like me and others, on blogs and letters to editors and senators and all the rest of it, in the past on this same idea has gone anywhere..... Nancy made damned sure of that up front...

But, I'm going to hope it does this time... I know, either very audacious... or else very naive.... We'll see, we'll see.....JD

After more than a year with folks in both houses of congress, the best the Democrats can do is hearings where Pelosi and company determine ahead of time that the result will NOT be impeachment?

I had so hoped that 2006 would be the turning of the tide. Nonetheless, maybe THIS is our year.

People Get Ready! Change is Gonna Come!

One-Twenty-O-Nine

crazylikeafox @ 29:

burningbush @ 5:

"we must ensure that history books note that this Congress stood up to this administration and formally admonished it for all its violations of law.”

History will show that this Congress enabled this adminstration every step of the way....

History will be rewritten to say "All hail to the Bush administration which brought America out of the wilderness and into the promised land."

Yes, and "the promised land" is a strip mall turned into a concentration camp.

burningbush @ 5:

"we must ensure that history books note that this Congress stood up to this administration and formally admonished it for all its violations of law.”

History will show that this Congress enabled this adminstration every step of the way....

It looks like the Democrats are also worried about their legacy and want to manipulate history. Hopefully, history will portray them as the wimps they are.

L.A. Confidential @ 33:

Charles @ 27:

G String Says....I have to concur. I think Pelosi has accomplished nothing. All that work and no results. Shocking, isn't it? It makes anyone with a functioning brain ask if that's by design?

Only thing Pelosi has accomplished is keeping her snout buried deep into the taxpayer trough.

Yepper. She sold our asses out. No doubt about it. Maybe she was promised safe passage to an underground military base when they release the virus next month?

Vincent Bugliosi exposes Bush's plan to provoke a war with Saddam Hussein by painting a U2 spy plane in the colors of the United Nations and hope it gets shot down over Iraq. My God. Expose these criminals. Pass the word.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q53p34yzZac (2:47) Worth it :)

Charles @ 36:

L.A. Confidential @ 33:

Charles @ 27:

G String Says....I have to concur. I think Pelosi has accomplished nothing. All that work and no results. Shocking, isn't it? It makes anyone with a functioning brain ask if that's by design?

Only thing Pelosi has accomplished is keeping her snout buried deep into the taxpayer trough.

Yepper. She sold our asses out. No doubt about it. Maybe she was promised safe passage to an underground military base when they release the virus next month?

They might not need the virus. With a Feel Good Populist Prezident making people feel great about their slavery and servitude people will forget Bush Co about 15 minutes after the swearing in. Then it's time to go to pile up more nachos on the plate during the 3 minute commercial.

L.A. Confidential @ 40:

Charles @ 36:

L.A. Confidential @ 33:

Charles @ 27:

Only thing Pelosi has accomplished is keeping her snout buried deep into the taxpayer trough.

Yepper. She sold our asses out. No doubt about it. Maybe she was promised safe passage to an underground military base when they release the virus next month?

They might not need the virus. With a Feel Good Populist Prezident making people feel great about their slavery and servitude people will forget Bush Co about 15 minutes after the swearing in. Then it's time to go to pile up more nachos on the plate during the 3 minute commercial.

You've got to hand it to them. What a great plan. And they control everything. The banks, the schools, the churches, the police, the military, the media, congress, the judges, the police. Game, set, match. Thanks for playing. Bye, bye.

Curly @ 2:

Too little. Too late.

The Office of the President has been DEFILED!
It is NEVER too late to clean it up.
Work to preserve the essence of our Government, not to let it rot!

Mom always told me, "Better to be late then never."

Why define APATHY through chides of inaction?

Frybread @ 3:

Good presentation from Rep. Wexler. But it won't matter since there never will be a vote for impeachement hearings in the full Congress.

If you petition your Representative, there might be.

What many... er... the MAJORITY of Americans think is that "IT" will never happen.

Your House Representative was elected to represent YOU! Make THAT work. Let them know HOW to best represent you... or is that TOO MUCH EFFORT?

Noah @ 6:

What took them so long? Not that it has a chance in Hell of succeeding ... but it's nice to dream.

Dreams are made of possibilities.

It sounds like you don't seek a successful restoration of America.

breakspear @ 9:

Whats amazing is that Republicans, most of them, dont think Bush and Cheney and their ilk have done anything wrong. they march in lockstep, party first, before the country's interests. Lamar Smith, a fool from Texas, certainly doesnt care as he just says its a witch hunt, or pandering, or a fishing expedition. the rule of law, constitutional power grabs, abuse of power, eh, who cares? if they were done by a Republican clearly they are fine by him. what a failure of a legislator and an american. but we should expect nothing less than nothing less from this cretin.

Many people in this Nation have been blinded by faith and Republicrat tactics.

breakspear @ 9:

Whats amazing is that Republicans, most of them, dont think Bush and Cheney and their ilk have done anything wrong. they march in lockstep, party first, before the country's interests. Lamar Smith, a fool from Texas, certainly doesnt care as he just says its a witch hunt, or pandering, or a fishing expedition. the rule of law, constitutional power grabs, abuse of power, eh, who cares? if they were done by a Republican clearly they are fine by him. what a failure of a legislator and an american. but we should expect nothing less than nothing less from this cretin.

I agree. When Smith was directing questions at his two [alleged] Republican experts, they were both shocked, shocked! that anyone could possibly conceive that this administration should be impeached. Some of the Republican congressmen, unfortunately, had a point when they noted that the hearing was taking place even though Rep. Conyers had said that it was not an impeachment hearing. Conyers should have had a genuine hearing on impeachment instead of this faux impeachment proceeding. One wonders how many Articles Kucinich needed to have listed besides the 35 [!] that he had set forth before Conyers would finally realize that this administration needed to be booted out of office as well as being tried for war crimes.

It's interesting to note that when a man is telling the truth you don't have to try and figure out what he is saying. Feels good.

P.D. @ 11:

If were all over MSM, McCain's poll numbers would drop. I can't believe how many Americans are ignorant, MSM of course doesn't help. But God! Can't people look at a newspaper or C-span? Are we as a nation that lazy? I mean our children's future is a stake!

I can't believe that no one blinks.
This hearing finished almost four hours ago... crickets.
I blogged it at http://www.johnconyers.com/node/227

If the president was impeached and no one reported it...
... did it happen?

Classic tree in the woods scenario...
... And C&L dropped the ball.

"... taking the hits from the wingnuts ..."
Where was Bill O'Reilly when Rick Santorum was financing a mansion (outside the state he represented) with a crooked mortgage deal?

Hard Justice @ 12:

burningbush @ 5:

"we must ensure that history books note that this Congress stood up to this administration and formally admonished it for all its violations of law.”

History will show that this Congress enabled this adminstration every step of the way....

Unfortunately I think in the long run everybody will blame Bush and administration. History may never recognize not how many other people turned a blind eye, because doing the right thing wasn't in their personal interest :(

91% polled disagree with your assessment of CONgressional performance.

Jackie @ 14:

But where is this all going? Is this just another song and dance or are they going forward with impeachment? I mean, come on......

Tell your House Representative where it needs to go.
They are supposed to represent you... NO?

Conyers looks and sounds like he would like to be anywhere else in the world today, and of course he set the guidelines such that there could be no real discussion about impeachment, nor would he let anyone show any emotion about what was being discussed.

The democrats, as many have pointed out here, are as guilty of what is going on in Washington as Bush is. They are all of the same party. Until everyone, including bloggers here, get that reality, this country is in big, big trouble.

Charles @ 36:

L.A. Confidential @ 33:

Charles @ 27:

G String Says....I have to concur. I think Pelosi has accomplished nothing. All that work and no results. Shocking, isn't it? It makes anyone with a functioning brain ask if that's by design?

Only thing Pelosi has accomplished is keeping her snout buried deep into the taxpayer trough.

Yepper. She sold our asses out. No doubt about it. Maybe she was promised safe passage to an underground military base when they release the virus next month?

You predicting that the Govt is going to pull a false flag operation to have an excuse for marshal law and indefinate 'postponement' of the presidential election process?

Bush: First Prime Minister of the USA, 2008 -> Until everyone that hates America is dead. [And that includes anyone in the USA that wants to make us a Democracy again.]

General_Rennenkampf @ 65:

I wonder if this will come to anything, or just fizzle out like others have. This nation has never impeached a president and removed them from office. If Dubya's the first, that's a dubious historical first for him.

The intent is not to remove him from office. The point now is to have the hearings. If hearings are taking place, he can't pardon anyone. My uderstanding anyway.

burningbush @ 5:

"we must ensure that history books note that this Congress stood up to this administration and formally admonished it for all its violations of law.”

History will show that this Congress enabled this adminstration every step of the way....

especially between 2000- 2006.......a lot of damage was done during those years and many wanted miracles with the present legislative branch.....well the damage was in motion...signing statements,veto,
secrecy and executive privilege.....nobody was ready for an administration like this for those of you who voted for this....assclown...you can thank addington and cheney.....many of you want to completely blame todays congress/senate.....paper thin majority

If Bush were successfully impeached, would this stop him from collecting a pension, future medical benefits, or lifelong Secret Service protection, all financed by American taxpayers?

Don @ 71:

my point (3), concerns how the Republicans gloss over the fact that the Bush Administration, beginning summer 2002, all but abandoned the biological and chemical WMD justification, because it wasn't flying with the public, and launched the Big Scare: the nuclear scenario. From Aug 2002 through March 2003,
that was their principal drumbeat. And, of course, no Dems called them on this.

Yeah, many of us remember the "mushroom cloud" mentioned by Cuntilee Rice.

General_Rennenkampf @ 65:

I wonder if this will come to anything, or just fizzle out like others have. This nation has never impeached a president and removed them from office. If Dubya's the first, that's a dubious historical first for him.

the removal of a sitting president while the nation is embroiled in a "preemptive war" (read that "war of aggression") would be catastrophic to the nation, and would be tantamount to putting a bounty on the head of every single member of the American military stationed abroad. Ditto the diplomats, embassies would burn everywhere.

Impeachment will not happen until congress is backed by an administration that respects the constitution.

Remember, "we" have a majority in two houses.. but if battling the minority means also battling the DOJ and a rogue Administration that invents it's own laws and owns the propoganda/media complex, they don't stand a chance.

They can fight against the "Patriot" act.. and get smeared for it to the point it costs Obama the election.
Or, they can wait and let Obama eliminate it with the stroke of a pen, with no opposition at all.

think about it... push and risk losing it all pretty much forever, or just wait for the inevitable victory.
The right choice is not always the expedient or even popular one.

What happens in your country with past presidents who are charged with crimes while in office?

Are they afforded more protection from such charges than ordinary citizens?

one of the reasons for the urgency of the iraq attack was
there was increasing international pressure to reduce/stop
sanctions.....if those sanctions were lifted other countries
and corporations would have got involved in business in iraq. it would not look favorable to bomb foreign companies doing business in iraq.

Charles @ 21:

This is nothing more than a dog and pony show. Nothing is going to happen.

I applaud Wexler for this speech, but we all know that no action against W or Cheney will occur, much less stick.

Now, if Wexler tells us to gather weapons, ammo, and.......I might be on board. Oh, and personally I don't give a shit if he lives in Alaska, Maryland, or Florida. Why does it matter? Because Faux Noise says it matters? And all these criminals that are supposed to be representing us (ha, what a laugh) have houses or condos in the DC area.

Let's get real here. If Cheney and W can't and don't get impeached, then who can?

Welcome to the Corporate Fascist States of Amurika. And this is just the beginning.

The bottle will not close itself... regardless of the "SHOW" the Ginni puts on.
YOU have to work it make it happen.
As a citizen, your weapon IS your VOTE. Your tool is your House Representative.

Why put aside your tools and weapons because TYRANNY is on the march.
Have you no balls?
Did Washington crap in his britches because of the TYRANNY.
Remember, General Washington was fighting the terrorists ON OUR SHORES... yet he did not run.

Is the Constitution too pre-9/11 that you are willing to let it go?

marc @ 31:

Umm...Dennis Kucinich has been saying this for 7 years. Other Democrats are finally voicing what half of America has been thinking for nearly a decade? Thanks for nothing. You had your chance with Kucinich for president and you blew it. You get what you pay (vote) for.

amen brother ben!

Jack Damage @ 28:

Wexler delevered a good opening remark.. Will it lead to anything??...(Sigh), probably not... None of the handwringing and oratory of other pols or the bitching and moaning of people like me and others, on blogs and letters to editors and senators and all the rest of it, in the past on this same idea has gone anywhere..... Nancy made damned sure of that up front...

But, I'm going to hope it does this time... I know, either very audacious... or else very naive.... We'll see, we'll see.....JD

Jack,
TAKE ACTION.

When letters go unanswered...
... SHOW UP IN PERSON!

When your Representative won't meet with you...
... STAY IN HIS OFFICE until they schedule you time to meet.

Inaction breeds APATHY...
... and this is exactly what tyranny needs to succeed.

I've been saying it for 5 years- I'll say it for at least the next 100 days- IMPEACH NOW!

Meanwhile they are putting OBL driver on trial for war crimes.
When Bush&Co are out will they need to pull a Pinochet?

getalife @ 55:

The President is above the law.

Not in my America!

My problem with these Dems is nobody will label a lie a lie. When you hear a lie, damnit, identify it. Where I'm from, the 1st response would be, "You're a lier and a MoFo!" or "You're a lying MoFo" just to show your total indignation. Do something.

Milquetoast @ 86:

Reno @ 75:

They can fight against the "Patriot" act.. and get smeared for it to the point it costs Obama the election.
Or, they can wait and let Obama eliminate it with the stroke of a pen, with no opposition at all.

maybe you dont know this but Obama voted to re-authorise the patriot act!

what on earth makes you think Obama will reverse course and "eliminate it with a stroke of the pen" as you say? ....are you hoping Obama will flip flop? change you can wait for? ...keep waiting...

I know no such thing, just as you don't know he won't..
Personally, I don't trust Obama at all after the FISA thing. I'm just saying, if they want to win their current strategy is the right one.. including keeping the matter of criminal charges on the back burner... if their motives are true, they wait for the right moment to take down the cartel without taking the entire country with it. If their motives are less than honorable, it keeps you busy thinking there's hope (and it keeps the opposition very nervous, should they in fact not really be on the same team with the entire 2 party system being a hoax)

if the gop blocks impeachment, they need to be charged as co-conspirators.

Milquetoast @ 86:

Reno @ 75:

They can fight against the "Patriot" act.. and get smeared for it to the point it costs Obama the election.
Or, they can wait and let Obama eliminate it with the stroke of a pen, with no opposition at all.

maybe you dont know this but Obama voted to re-authorise the patriot act!

what on earth makes you think Obama will reverse course and "eliminate it with a stroke of the pen" as you say? ....are you hoping Obama will flip flop? change you can wait for? ...keep waiting...

you watched your civil rights dissapear when obummer voted for the patriot act and fisa, hes not giveing any of that back hes going to use it for further agression in afganistan!

Don @ 69:

I watched the whole thing. And the Republicans once again trotted out their three talking points:
1. Pre-war Quotes from Democrats saying Saddam had WMD.
2. Claims that "all the intelligence services" thought like us (us=Bush)

Not a single Dem responded, when in fact what needs to be said about (1) is that these quotes
almost all concern just biological and chemical warfare, and any that mention nuclear do so at a
later date, evidence of how the Bushies misled. About (2), this is similar: no foreign intelligence service claimed that Saddam was a nuclear threat. None agreed about the niger yellowcake buy, none agreed
that the aluminum tubes were suitable for nuclear weaponry.

It's too bad that the Dems apparently haven't learned the easy rebuttals to these inevitable talking points. And
there was even a claim based on a Canadian newspaper article made by one of the Repubs that
500 tons of yellowcake uranium had been sold and transported to Canada in 2006. Proof that the Niger story was true!!! Well. Duh. That
was the yellowcake that Saddam had for years prior to the war, which the UN knew about and in fact
had sealed. But not a single Dem mentioned this. So whoever was watching the procedings believing that Saddam had WMD, including nuclear, that he was therefore a threat, etc etc, would not be disabused of these errors. Typically proof Democratic performance.

Don,
You forgot a talking point:
3) Clinton failed to stop the attack of 9/11
Hinchey did a great job squaring that one up.
Bush knew about OBL, did nothing even on Aug. 6,2001 and then on 9/11, sat reading a kids book and feigning shock!
Where were the S.S. to rush him into a bunker?
How did the S.S. know the Bush was safe?
He was at Emma Booker Elementary for almost an hour DURING the attacks of 9/11.
WTC I hit as he arrived...
WTC II hit while he sat and read.
The Pentagon was struck just after he made his prescheduled announcement at the school...
... with the children, teachers and parents as his shock and awe backdrop.
The S.S. didn't even think of the public safety at the school that day.

But I diverged.
If what the pre Iraq invasion quotes are to be believed, then the relationship of the quotes to the presented facts needs further examination. I mean, if I tell you one thing while with holding a contradicting fact, how are you to know? Of course you'll repeat what I told you, even if what I told you was purposefully misleading you. What a great cover... commit a crime while gathering my gaggle to babble my lies.

The concentration camps are ready. Nobody, from either side, has given any definite answers, as to what they are their for "exactly". Screw all the SPECULATION BS! I'm sick and tired of nothing but PURE SPECULATION about EVERYTHING. I'd like some kind of specific answers for a long, long, overdue change.

The republicans continue their bs spin and lies as I watched the entire "show" on C-span.

The republicans, and the corporations who own them are "the" terrorists,...and that is not any speculation. The talk was plentifull. The action, or lack of, ...the bs excuses, were simply pathetic.

How bad does it really have to get, BEFORE they put the country and it's people before their job security? Zero backbone from those in any position REQUIRED to do something, by law. Only continuing EXCUSES, and that seems to pay very, very well. Enough to cancel out ANY HONOR.

NO Honor shown whatsoever, from any "have mores". Their investing our money, they stole right here, everywhere BUT,....right here, before the big collapse.

constituent @ 70:

burningbush @ 5:

"we must ensure that history books note that this Congress stood up to this administration and formally admonished it for all its violations of law.”

History will show that this Congress enabled this adminstration every step of the way....

especially between 2000- 2006.......a lot of damage was done during those years and many wanted miracles with the present legislative branch.....well the damage was in motion...signing statements,veto,
secrecy and executive privilege.....nobody was ready for an administration like this for those of you who voted for this....assclown...you can thank addington and cheney.....many of you want to completely blame todays congress/senate.....paper thin majority

Umm...
The MCA was, revoking your Right to Habeas Corpus happened AFTER the 2006 elections...
Telecom Immunization happened in 2008, revoking your Right to seek Justice for basic infringements to your privacy.

The SCOTUS ruled the MCA of 2006 VIOLATED YOUR RIGHTS! The SCOTUS ruled the Congressional vote and presidential signing usurping your Rights, UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
To date, you may now seek justice with representation and a review of evidence... but you still are seen as capable of and suspected as a potential terrorist. We all are. We are not even free.

To date, the Government doesn't need a warrant to spy on you. They can spy to their hearts content and should they suspect you, they can still whisk you away and rendition you and detain you for years without immediate Justice. They still can pronounce you an enemy combatant and hold a military tribunal(aka private court) with a jury NOT made up of your peers(unless you're a service member).

The elections of 2008 ARE about "CHANGE"
From America the FREE...
To America the enslaved.

The time in now to make and take a stand!

Ferengi @ 72:

If Bush were successfully impeached, would this stop him from collecting a pension, future medical benefits, or lifelong Secret Service protection, all financed by American taxpayers?

YES!

Reno @ 75:

Or, they can wait and let Obama eliminate it with the stroke of a pen, with no opposition at all.

think about it... push and risk losing it all pretty much forever, or just wait for the inevitable victory.
The right choice is not always the expedient or even popular one.

How can a president craft law without going through Congress?
A stroke of the pen...? A Signing Statement... like Bush?

Wow, push and loose... ?
Seems to me the Republic has lost plenty without a single effort of a push for accountability.

Q U E S T I O N:
HOW WILL status quObama UNRING THE BELL HE STRUCK?

swampfox @ 83:

marc @ 31:

Umm...Dennis Kucinich has been saying this for 7 years. Other Democrats are finally voicing what half of America has been thinking for nearly a decade? Thanks for nothing. You had your chance with Kucinich for president and you blew it. You get what you pay (vote) for.

amen brother ben!

Joker @ 90:

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It was only a joke in that it wasn't given the full daylight it deserved.
Impeachment could have happened today... could have!

But Corporate loyalty and Blog deafness won out!
Americans remain ignorant!

Nice effort by Wexler.....too bad it's too little, too late. Just like how all the other spineless Dems & Independents sat on their collective hands following the 2006 elections. In my mind, Pelosi and Reid should be hanged alongside the criminals as enablers. Treasonous in that they didn't defend the constitution of the U.S., which is what they are sworn to do.

JM @ 98:

Checks and balances? Checks and balances have a liberal bias! Hell! The Constitution has a liberal bias! I know 'cause Lamar Smith told me so!

The Constitution is also very pre-9/11.

Wexler - you ROCK. Reid and Pelosi, not so much...

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Embittered & Anti-Republicrat - Max-Hussein-1 @ 62:

Jackie @ 14:

But where is this all going? Is this just another song and dance or are they going forward with impeachment? I mean, come on......

Tell your House Representative where it needs to go.
They are supposed to represent you... NO?

I have!! Countless Times!

Impeach NOW. Who cares of there is a reactionary back-lash from the Republicans. What are they going to do? Vote McSame into office? well... they're tryin' to do that NOW!

Does Bush DESERVE to be impeached? YES.

End of story.

So do it already. Impeach the bastards! Try them in a court of law. Turn them over to the world court. Do SOMETHING

Reno @ 122:

obama walks and talks different than the others. He could, in fact, be different. If he is, his campaign is dead on and congress is helping him by keeping the cases alive at a slow simmer. Otherwise it's more of the same and impeachment of one crook by another doing the same thing is nothing more than window dressing.

but to reiterate: arresting the current CIC and declaring the war fraudulent at this moment would be to put a bounty on the head of every soldier stationed overseas.
It would be a massacre no matter how it ended.

On Obama... "Read my lips..." sound familiar?
What kind of man promises to act, tomorrow?
What kind of man promises to unring the bell he just struck?
Prove to us that Obama, or any other next president won't VETO any form of legislation that attempts to undo the immunizations that currently are in place that act against the Republic's Right to seek Justice for having been spied on warrantlessly.

You said arrest, not my words.
One can not arrest a CIC without impeachment first, and THEN, only by consent of the Senate finding him guilty.
Why resist an official rebuke?
Frankly, the Senate is just as lax and complicit to the current state of affairs... GOT CENSURE?

Otay @ 124:

All I see is a dog and pony show to get the Dem incumbents re-elected. They are far more concerned about their precious posteriors than they are about the rule of law.

Otay,
Then I say put their precious posteriors ON that line.

Demand from them FAITHFUL representation and allegiance to their Oath of Office.
Demand from them, fulfillment of their legally binding obligation; Fulfilment of their Oath of Office.
Demand that they support and defend the Republic WITHOUT mental reservations or a purpose of evasion.
Demand that of them and let them know that should they fail, you will be obligated to faithfully vote them out of that Office they disrespect.

Embittered & Anti-Republicrat - Max-Hussein-1 @ 130:

Otay @ 124:

All I see is a dog and pony show to get the Dem incumbents re-elected. They are far more concerned about their precious posteriors than they are about the rule of law.

Otay,
Then I say put their precious posteriors ON that line.

Demand from them FAITHFUL representation and allegiance to their Oath of Office.
Demand from them, fulfillment of their legally binding obligation; Fulfilment of their Oath of Office.
Demand that they support and defend the Republic WITHOUT mental reservations or a purpose of evasion.
Demand that of them and let them know that should they fail, you will be obligated to faithfully vote them out of that Office they disrespect.

I keep trying, but their offices seem to consider calls from lobbyists with mucho mulla much more important.

He is one to talk about "abuses of power"

William @ 120:

Hope you enjoyed Wexler's performance today. He got caught committing tax fraud , lying about his residence in Maryland, and will be thrown out of office in November.

Good bye to bad trash.

Wexler has been open about his residence situation for 10 years. He even talks about it in his book.
He moved his family to Maryland so he can play a role in raising his children where he spends 2/3 of his time.
Surely you right wing-nuts who claim to be the party of family values can understand that.

Wexler's 2 November opponents and Bill-O apparently have nothing else on this guy and he's scaring the crap out of the Repugs.
Next, they'll be pulling up clips from the 2-year old appearance on the Colbert Report.

Go Wexler!

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Wexler, https://www.wexlerforcongress.com/contribute.asp,
Feingold http://www.russfeingold.org/
and Conyers http://www.johnconyers.com/
and while you're at it support Cindy Sheehan in her run against Pelosi too. http://www.cindyforcongress.org/
Then let your Representative know where their campaign contribution ended up.

Can anybody please tell what's the normal amount to donate?

William @ 141:

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You rethugs are pissing your pants w/fear over Wexler. This b.s. story is all you've got (it's trumped up garbage). Go back to hiding under the bed.

Talked to some folks in the neighborhood today. None of them even knew about this hearing. Completely oblivious. It won't even be noticed by most of the country. Most Americans are brain dead. Bush and Cheney can get away with anything they wish. Welcome to the police state.

A letter from Congressman Wexler.

Today, in the Judiciary Committee, we held a full day of hearings that focused entirely on the crimes of George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, and featured testimony by Rep. Dennis Kucinich regarding his Articles of Impeachment against President Bush.

This is a great start – but I am far from satisfied. Following statements by Chairman John Conyers and the Ranking Republicans, I opened with a forceful call for genuine and immediate Impeachment Hearings for President Bush and Vice President Cheney.

The crimes of this Administration must be revealed and Bush and Cheney must be held accountable. Without Impeachment Hearings, we cannot break through the blatant and unprecedented efforts by President Bush to shut down legitimate oversight by this Congress.

As you know, President Bush has inappropriately and repeatedly invoked Executive Privilege to keep Karl Rove, Harriet Miers, Josh Bolten, and other White House officials from complying with legal, Congressional Subpoenas.

I believe the only appropriate remedy is to hold Impeachment Hearings.

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While Inherent Contempt might dislodge some testimony or at least guarantee the appearance of witnesses, the larger concern is the President's outrageous abuse of Executive Privilege.

We have been down this road before: in 1973, Articles of Impeachment were introduced against President Nixon after he illegally tried to use Executive Privilege to bury evidence of his wrongdoings.

I fully recognize the significance of holding Impeachment Hearings, and I have not come to this position lightly – but when the President of the United States takes actions that amount to high crimes, we are left with no other option than to seek his impeachment and removal from office.

Our government was founded upon a delicate balance of powers – whereby one branch carefully checks the other branches to prevent a dangerous consolidation of power. President Bush's actions have totally destroyed this careful balance. Without these checks and balances, the President could run roughshod over any law and turn us into a nation...
...where wars can be waged based on lies
...and laws can be rewritten without the input of Congress or the American people.

Congress must end this disturbing pattern of behavior, and in these circumstances, the only option left is impeachment.

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This is not a partisan issue: Congress is a co-equal branch of government with the Executive, and it cannot allow this attack on our powers to go unanswered. To ignore these actions is tantamount to a willful concession of our rights as legislators. No Democrat, Republican, or Independent should allow Congress' powers to be so undermined.

Nor should Congress allow the calendar to determine whether we should ignore abuses of office. No President should be given immunity and free-reign just because there are only a few months left in their term.

Impeachment Hearings can be held very quickly – in a manner of weeks.

Although today we don't have the votes to impeach today – neither did the Judiciary Committee investigating President Nixon until AFTER hearings were held and the truth was revealed. We must put a halt to this historic Administrative power grab.

Congress has not lived up to its promises, and we can no longer credibly claim that impeachment would upset our agenda. Our agenda has not withstood presidential vetoes or senatorial filibusters. If we do nothing, this session will be remembered for our conceding the rightful and constitutional powers of Congress, and little more.

I am unbowed in my determination for Impeachment Hearings and I know you feel the same way.

Encourage your friends to stay updated and demonstrate their support by signing up at www.wexlerwantshearings.com.

As always, thank you for your kind emails, contributions, and encouragement.

Congressman Robert Wexler

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These trolls just crack me up, The treat of prosecution just sends them off in a tizzy. Just wait till the hearings start.

Please. This is just getting to be a waste of time and money. No one more than I would like to see the current exec. branch get their comeuppance, but impeachment is not reasonable. I was against the impeachment of Clinton, not because there were no grounds -- perjury is grounds for impeachment -- but because Clinton perjured himself in response to a couple questions posed under oath by the special prosecutor, questions that weren't germane to what the special prosecutor was supposed to be investigating. The SP shouldn't have asked, and it was a trivial issue unless you were a member of Clinton's immediate family, so I could not care less if Clinton lied in answering them.

The case against impeaching Bush is that the proposed ground for impeachment are matters that still need to be interpreting by US and international courts. By the time we have decisions one way or the other, Bush will no longer be in office -- in fact, I'm becoming more convinced every day no member of the Bush administration or cabinet will be anywhere around related to their former roles -- and once he's gone there's not point in impeaching him. Now you can make a case, once national and international courts ring in with definitive interpretations of US and international law, for prosecuting push for criminal acts related to his foreign policy in governance of the US. But again, this is kind of a waste, because in general, the whole of the West tends to beat chests about prosecuting despots and tyrants for human rights violations, war crimes, etc., but in general, once they've been squarely ousted, by election, coup, what have you, the matter is dropped in favor of getting on with stabilizing the situation they screwed up in the first place.

So as much as I'd like to see Bush twisting in the wind, metaphorically speaking, I don't think it's economically efficient, good for the country or good the upcoming, likely very drastic, change in executive administration, as it will just tie us up bloodying the mouth of a discredited character who has reached so a low he can't, not even with endorsements or back-office maneuvering really ever influence our nation again, not in any meaningful way.

P.D. @ 1:

I used to be upbeat when the Democrats got in 2006, now I'm disgusted. If anyone deserves to be impeached, it's Bush. Thanks for nothing Nancy and Harry!

Great. 100 days to the election of a new president, and NOW they show a spine. We have been calling for this since 05. John Oliver from TDS is right. Our government has a group of all-star obstructionists that we will not see again. Douchebags in congress continue this by trying to cut off Vincent Bugliosi's testimony...incredible. I applaud Wexler and Kucinich for their stands, but unfortunately theirs ring more like a rant after the horses have left the barn.

The bigger question is: will congress hold the Bush administration accountable after January 2009?