Jon Voight: Won't You Think Of The Children? Obama Will Make Them Socialists! Oh Noes!
By Nicole Belle Wednesday Jul 30, 2008 2:30pmI generally don't care about the political viewpoints of celebrities. Their ideology is no more or less valid than mine or yours, and frankly, I've never understood why someone who has gained notoriety for acting or sports necessarily merits being asked their opinions. But every once in a while, you run into something so hactackularly bad, so astonishingly free of facts or logic that you simply must call attention to it. Such is the case of Jon Voight's op-ed in The Washington Times. At my most charitable, all I can tell you is that Voight has changed from the man of Coming Home and Catch-22 to the man who made Anaconda and Bratz, and that's a very sad metamorphosis indeed. (emphases mine)
We, as parents, are well aware of the importance of our teachers who teach and program our children. We also know how important it is for our children to play with good-thinking children growing up.
Sen. Barack Obama has grown up with the teaching of very angry, militant white and black people: the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Louis Farrakhan, William Ayers and Rev. Michael Pfleger. We cannot say we are not affected by teachers who are militant and angry. We know too well that we become like them, and Mr. Obama will run this country in their mindset.
The Democratic Party, in its quest for power, has managed a propaganda campaign with subliminal messages, creating a God-like figure in a man who falls short in every way. It seems to me that if Mr. Obama wins the presidential election, then Messrs. Farrakhan, Wright, Ayers and Pfleger will gain power for their need to demoralize this country and help create a socialist America.
The Democrats have targeted young people, knowing how easy it is to bring forth whatever is needed to program their minds. I know this process well. I was caught up in the hysteria during the Vietnam era, which was brought about through Marxist propaganda underlying the so-called peace movement. The radicals of that era were successful in giving the communists power to bring forth the killing fields and slaughter 2.5 million people in Cambodia and South Vietnam. Did they stop the war, or did they bring the war to those innocent people? In the end, they turned their backs on all the horror and suffering they helped create and walked away.
Those same leaders who were in the streets in the '60s are very powerful today in their work to bring down the Iraq war and to attack our president, and they have found their way into our schools. William Ayers is a good example of that.
Thank God, today, we have a strong generation of young soldiers who know exactly who they are and what they must do to protect our freedom and our democracy. And we have the leadership of Gen. David Petraeus, who has brought hope and stability to Iraq and prevented the terrorists from establishing a base in that country. Our soldiers are lifting us to an example of patriotism at a time when we've almost forgotten who we are and what is at stake.
OMG. I don't think there's a single sentence (and there's more at The Washington Times) that I don't have the desire to shred apart. Teh stupid, it hurts. The saddest part is that I think that Voight's entire body of knowledge of Obama comes from either Sean Hannity or those anonymous forwarded emails so easily debunked at Snopes. At least now we know where that deep well of support for Giuliani came from.
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Perhaps Angelina Jolie doesn't want to have anything to do with him because she's worried about the influence he might have on her children.
Now I understand why the Repugs and their flock like to cut down anyone from Hollywood who voices their opinion on things. Its unfortunate that he's an idiot but he's allowed his opinion on things.
Angela Jolie is amazing, too bad they don't have a close relationship.
PS I used to own John Voight's LeBaron.
Charles @ 3:
And of course, by Angela, I mean Angelina.
What, all of a sudden Voight isn't an obscure has-been? FuxNoise has a new anchor!
Are you sure this op-ed was not written by Jon Voight the periodontist as it left a bad taste in my mouth.
voignt is sucking on or sitting on the big one.
what an ass-wipe he has become or is.
this article of his is racist and hypocritical
just like all the reichwingneocons foist on
the public as truth.
Don't forget Deer Hunter. One the best movies ever.
Jon Voight is unhinged, even his children won't have anything to do with him.
Angelina Jolie is HIGHLY overrated, BTW.
John Voight may not be a for-real cowboy, but he sure is one hell of a stud.
His chilld (angelina) wants nothing to do with him, yet he has the gumption to tell us about looking out for our children? Will someone tell him to shut the fuck up, cuz no one's listening.
"The Jon Voight car is no more."
-George Costanza
What the hell does Jon Voight care about "The Children"
His own children (including daughter Angelina Jolie) have been estranged from him for years!
After reading some of the wacked out stuff he's saying lately I understand why!
Voight: as smart as damp toast.
OP-ED
We, as parents, are well aware of the importance of our teachers who teach and program our children. We also know how important it is for our children to play with good-thinking children growing up.
(this from a man whose own daughter did not speak to him for six years, and who has only recently been allowed to meet his own grandchildren. we’ll see how long that will last.)
Sen. Barack Obama has grown up with the teaching of very angry, militant white and black people: the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Louis Farrakhan, William Ayers and Rev. Michael Pfleger. (if my facts are correct, obama was a grown @$$ man when he met these people!! so what is he talking about?) We cannot say we are not affected by teachers who are militant and angry. We know too well that we become like them, and Mr. Obama will run this country in their mindset. (one has to ask, who has been teaching jon voight. it sounds like he has spent the better part of his adult like being brainwashed by republicans).
The Democratic Party, in its quest for power (is this somehow different from republican quest for power), has managed a propaganda campaign with subliminal messages (um, no, that’s republicans too, with their coded racial speech), creating a God-like figure (funny how intelligent, competence, and talent are now less than human qualities in the light of the subpar qualities we have grown accustomed to in our leaders) in a man who falls short in every way. (in what ways are those? please be specific. perhaps he means in failing to fulfill the expectations of white people by not shucking and jiving, cooning and shuffling. is that where he falls short? he seems to be otherwise exceeding their expectations of him in every other way). It seems to me that if Mr. Obama wins the presidential election, then Messrs. Farrakhan, Wright, Ayers and Pfleger will gain power for their need to demoralize this country and help create a socialist America. (uh, no that was republicans too. do we remember the rise of radical christian right, and how their ministers have had the ear of every republican for the last near decade?)
The Democrats have targeted young people, (you meaning reaching out and including) knowing how easy it is to bring forth whatever is needed to program their minds. (truth, justice, and the american way as it’s written in our founding documents). – as opposed to the republicans who have no youth outreach organizations. www.youngrepublicans.com ; www.collegerepublicans.org ; www.republicanteens.org I know this process well. I was caught up in the hysteria during the Vietnam era, which was brought about through Marxist propaganda underlying the so-called peace movement. (not to be confused with pro-war and war profiteering military industrial complex) The radicals of that era were successful in giving the communists power to bring forth the killing fields and slaughter 2.5 million people in Cambodia and South Vietnam. Did they stop the war, or did they bring the war to those innocent people? In the end, they turned their backs on all the horror and suffering they helped create and walked away. (what they protested was adding to the 52000 americans who died needlessly in a protracted civil war that had nothing to do with us. communists took over southeast asia, and low and behold america is still here! japan didn’t fall to communism. so the domino theory of communism spreading like a virus was as wrong as being greeted with flowers on the streets in baghadad.)
Those same leaders who were in the streets in the '60s are very powerful today in their work to bring down the Iraq war (you mean an invasion of, war with, and occupation of a country that was no threat to us, had no hand in the terrorist attacks they tried to link them to, and on which the whole premise was based on an outrageous lie – there’s your damn propaganda) and to attack our president (you mean the man who perpetrated and orchestrated the lie that has bankrupted our country, cost untold lives, created unreported numbers of permanently disabled and disfigured veterans, weakened our standing in the world, and cost us more and more of our civil liberties – is he talking about that president, the one who should be brought up on charges of war crimes, crimes against humanity, and treason?), and they have found their way into our schools. William Ayers is a good example of that.
Thank God, today, we have a strong generation of young soldiers (to send to needless slaughter) who know exactly who they are and what they must do to protect our freedom and our democracy. (if only they were actually being utilized to protect our freedom and our – wait, it’s not a democracy, it’s a democratic republic – big difference, jon. look it up). And we have the leadership of Gen. David Petraeus, who has brought hope and stability to Iraq (excluding the recent uptick in car bombings and attacks on green zones, so much so that during mccain’s visit he was shadowed by an attack helicopter – how much fuel did that take, keeping a copter in the air to provide cover for a visiting candidate’s photo ops?) and prevented the terrorists from establishing a base in that country. (yeah, okay. ten to fifteen years from now when our biggest security issue is all the mad iraqi young men and women who lived through this horror). Our soldiers are lifting us to an example of patriotism at a time when we've almost forgotten who we are because this can’t be the america i know if we are this close to electing a black man) and what is at stake. (the perpetuation of white, male, patriarchal rule forever?).
If Mr. Obama had his way, he would have pulled our troops from Iraq years ago (uh, no. if mr. obama had his way, they never would have gone to iraq in the first place) and initiated an unprecedented bloodbath (the bloodbath was actually initiated by a corrupt republican administration that is rotten right down to the very core of it’s being), turning over that country to the barbarianism of our enemies. (which enemies are these, al qaeda, the sunnis, the shia, the persians, or just any peoples with melanin who are sitting on the vast oil reserves we need to keep fueling this consumerism based lifestyle?) With what he has openly stated about his plans for our military, and his lack of understanding about the true nature of our enemies (because only white people can understand the true nature of peoples of color, there’s no way a black man can learn the same way or as much as a white man who graduated with a C-average in college and has failed at every career he has attempted, including the presidency), there's not a cell in my body that can accept the idea that Mr. Obama can keep us safe from the terrorists around the world, (would all of those cells be made up of the same racist programming?) and from Iran, which is making great strides toward getting the atomic bomb. (who says atomic anymore? even bush says nuclear, or rather he says “nucular”, but he’s not even saying atomic and he’s clinically retarded). And while a misleading portrait of Mr. Obama is being perpetrated by a media controlled by the Democrats, (i can’t even go here, except to say the publication of this ignorant, inflammatory, and imbecilic diatribe by an aging and bitter actor is proof of the opposite) the Obama camp has sent out people (read: like terrorist cells) to attack the greatness (that would be tilting at windmills) of Sen. John McCain, whose suffering and courage in a Hanoi prison camp is an American legend. (yes, we all know. can we repeat it again children: after graduating from the bottom of his class at anapolis, mccain was still somehow – ahem, daddy and granddaddy were admirals – able to get the coveted position as a (hear lou gossetts voice when you read this) naval a-vi-a-tor, and after crashing a few multimillion dollar planes due to incompetence and lack of study, was shot down by the enemy (and we’ll just have to take their word on that part) – was held as a POW, and tortured until he broke, then returned home to dump his crippled wife (and mother of his children) after a lot of adultery, to marry his rich mistress. okay, we got all that? – talk about indoctrination and propaganda!)
Gen. Wesley Clark, who himself has shame upon him, (what does that look like, is it a scarlet S or something) having been relieved of his command has done their bidding and become a lying fool in his need to demean a fellow soldier and a true hero. (um, does this sentence not demean a soldier who is highly decorated and whose achievement in the military FAR outpaced anything achieved by mccain. who is the hero, comparatively speaking?)
This is a perilous time, and more than ever, the world needs a united and strong America (how about the world needing an america that the world has some respect for, or is that not valuable in this “perilous time”?). If, God forbid, (now they are calling on God to stop the black man) we live to see Mr. Obama president, we will live through a socialist era that America has not seen before, (if by socialist they mean ending the concentration of wealth to the top one percent of the population, healthcare is not a luxury, having a home doesn’t depend about the current interest rate, we can afford to by food and heat our homes, and our tax system is fair and just – then, hell yes) and our country will be weakened in every way. (by “our” he means “their” to the exclusion of minorities, the poor, and the uninsured. and how much weaker can our country be with a morally bankrupt administration that is cyphoning trillions of dollars of tax payers money (earned and yet to be earned) to their cronies and oil wealthy countries. how much weaker would an obama presidency make the dollar? economy in the toilet. our true enemy in terrorism still on the loose seven years later. gas so high that it’s trickle down has infected the price of everything. soldiers committing suicide. veterans being denied benefits. pensions gone. banks going bust. people being set out on the street. whole communities on the foreclosure auction block.) the only fault i find with obama’s candidacy is that he is willing to take over and be handed this colossal mess. but that too is the history of this country. white man makes a mess. black man cleans it up.
Jon Voight is an Academy Award-winning actor who is well-known for his humanitarian work.
Mike Gallagher pronounced Obamas "socialists," apparently because daughters get presents from Santa, not them
This is just...no words to describe the stupid. As if anyone would resurrect the dead ghost of Soviet-Maoist Marxism. After the breakup of the USSR in 1991 and the gradual transformation of the Chinese economy into a capitalist one, the word "Communist," or "Socialist," lost all meaning as an insult. Now, socialism on the Western European or Canadian model might be nice, particularly adjusted for the much larger population of the US, but anyone trying to smear Barack Obama with what is effectively a dead ideology is stupid.
I think this nutjob finally lost it when Angelina outed the family by sucking face with her brother on television. Remember the video of him going insane about her letting out the family secrets, and people thought Angelina was the nutty one? Look it up. This guy is a wide eyed nutjob who never served his country. He probably doesn't live in the U.S..Just watch Rainman to see his real personality.
Don't his kids
frenchfreedom-kiss each other?jkb @ 11:
He is one weird dumb ass overpaid MoFo. I would not let this guy near my kids.
Considering neither of his children talk to Voight, I think he ought to shut up about parenting.
political advice from someone who's children won't come within 2 miles of him. Can any celebrity get an op-ed? The right wingers are truly becoming unhinged.
It shows celebrities like Jon Voight can be low-information voters too!
So stop beating on the "hard working white class" voters.
Man, it's not even August yet and already the thin veneer of civility has been scraped off the Republicans to expose the racist slime underneath... By November the Republicans are going to be running minstrel shows!
Everyone is entitled to an opinion, of course. But to be given the privilege of voicing it on the editorial page of a major American newspaper, is it too much to ask that one have a basic command of grammar and rhetoric, and be able to frame coherent arguments and sentences? Apparently it is.
"Good-thinking teachers"?!?! Jesus H. Christ did Jed Clampett ghost-write this thing?
My god what an embarrassment.
"creating a God-like figure in a man who falls short in every way"
So I'm assuming Mr. Voight complained about the deification of Mr. Bush for the past 7.5 years, yes?
Explains why he's in every Michael Bay movie, doesn't it. Birds of a feather.
He must be one of them Hollywood Nazis we hear so much about. The Great Right Wing Conspiracy funded by these Hollywood shills and Rupert Murdoch's propaganda outlets.
He is a looney and didn't even know his grandchildren's names when he was interviewed.
Sounds like Mr. Voight would have made an excellent witness at the McCarthy hearings.
Creep.
He must be getting into character for his next movie. "Deer Hunter II: The McCain Years".
He was raised and schooled in Catholic schools...and yet he supports McCain, who called a vile Catholic hater a "spiritual mentor". But Obama's bad. M'kay? He'll turn our kids into Socialists. M'kay? And Socialism is bad. M'kay? You shouldn't be Socialist, because Socialists are bad. M'kay? Like, oh, Britan which is currently under the Labor party, itself a member of the Party of European Socialists.
"And we have the leadership of Gen. David Petraeus, who has brought hope and stability to Iraq and prevented the terrorists from establishing a base in that country."
Riiiiiiiiiight. Because Al-Qaeda had a base in Iraq before the invasion. Suuuuuure.
Nevermind the fact that Saddam was a secular dictator.
There's a small handful of these rightwing Hollywood jackasses - Voight, Ron Silver, Andy Garcia, Dennis Miller, et al - that I loathe. It's one thing to be a George Clooney or a Sean Penn and actually HELP people and it's wholly another thing to be one of those idiots and scare and intimidate people. What a classless bunch.
It's generally a good idea to ignore anything an actor says. They generally think that they contain all the wisdom of every role they've ever played, not realizing that they merely impersonated the veneer of intelligence. Having spent a fair amount of time around celebs, it's always amusing when that veneer wears thin and you see the junior college dropout shine through.
Voight says Socialist like it's a bad thing.
Come on Nicole, if you're going to employ netisms such as "teh" and "oh noes", you might as well go all out and start using ZOMG! as well.
zomg, this comment is entirely irrelevant to the substance of your post.
Is Voight on teh crack or something? What the hell was that poorly worded, fact challenged, raving missive supposed to be?
Glad he is not on OUR side.
Teh crazy. IT BURNS.
Claire Lash @ 1:
I think that may be the case. I sense a very angry white man. He may make them grow up to be fascists!
Voight?
What in the name of all that is good and holy does he have to do with ANYFUCKINGTHING!?!?
The man is a shitty actor...at BEST! You see Anaconda?! WTF kind of mish mash accent was he goin for in that train wreck of a movie?
So I guess all these washed up actors are crawling out of the woodwork to bash Obama.
Seems the right just looooooves them some (bad) actors now. Who's next to pop up out of obscurity? Are they gonna exhume the bodies of John Wayne, Ronald Reagan, AND Lynyrd FUCKING Skynyrd and have themselves a champagne jam?
I mean Whaaaat the fuckin FUCK!?
John Voight...HA!
Just another "celebrity" who regurgitates Republican talking points. I wonder just how much pablum guys like Voigt and other Faux Noise soldiers will come up with before the gag reflex of even Republicans starts to kick in?
I'm also SHOCKED that the Moonie Times would print this hackery. Oh wait a minute...
You know what they say, better to be thought a fool, than open your mouth, or in this case, post an op-ed in the Reichwing Washington Times, and remove all doubt. His rambling is so ludicrous where do you begin to attack it. WOW! That's all I can say. This is truly unbelievable. We are in the year 2008 aren't we? Someone needs to tell rumplestillskin to wake the hell up. The Red Scare is over!
I mean seriously, this guy is mentally whacked. He sounds like a total idiot. That sh*t doesn't even make sense or hold a drop of water. Sen. Obama was a grown man when he met the ministers he mentions here. He might want to read Sen. Obama's book before he continues to profess how much he knows about his childhood.
theWalrus @ 32:
Ah man...Silver? Garcia? I liked those guys...but Voight and Miller...not so much...Miller was funny once or twice. When he wasn't a total choad huffing ass.
Voight...well my other post pretty much says what I think about Voight.
I'd rather have my child turn into a socialist than a torturing, murdering monster.
I really think we are a nation of idiots or would be listening to crap like that!
Its so sad that there are idiots, (YES jon voight you are an idiot!) who spout nonsense like that.
Mr. Voight, I find it interesting that you don't mention the Harvard professors in your little diatribe, why is that?
He prefers the fascist regime we are living in now as opposed to socialism. Go figure.
Eric in Ottawa (35)
I believe the phrase the kiddies are using these days, that would apply to this piece, is "epic fail".
Everybody's talkin' at me
I can't hear a word they're sayin'
Just driving around in Jon Voight's car
John McCain Had Attack Ad Ready in Case Barack Obama Did Visit Troops
What the McCain campaign doesn’t want people to know, according to one GOP strategist I spoke with over the weekend, is that they had an ad script ready to go if Obama had visited the wounded troops saying that Obama was... wait for it... using wounded troops as campaign props.
So, no matter which way Obama turned, McCain had an Obama bashing ad ready to launch.
The most telling thing I ever heard about Jon Voight's parenting skills came from an interview with his daughter Angelina. When asked about her relationship with her father, she didn't insult him or air dirty family laundry. She merely said, "I really don't know my father." Enough said. Voight ought to stay out of the camera lens, he's starting to look like an old drunk.
Is this for real?
In the last couple days I feel like I have fallen down the rabbit hole...first the report of Quayle on some Dancing show, then this piece of adsurdity from Voight, etc. I am no longer able to tell the difference between the Onion and "real" news.
Damn. No wonder this bozo's daughter is so fvcked up!
So, he wants kids to grow up influenced by O'Rielly, Malkin, Savage etc? And these folk aren't angry militants?
My friend Laurie in Louisville has a pair of Jon Voight's shoes. Ewwwwwww!!
Translation: When I was young and had lots of ideals but very little money, I made good movies and supported progressive causes. Now I'm old and rich and will do any whatever it takes to stay rich - when I was young I could get women easily, but now Jane Fonda is old and I have to have money to keep the young ones coming. Pig.
When's the last time an "elite" (meaning liberal) actor got an op-ed in DC or NY?
Voight says socialist like Republicans haven't spent LITERALLY TEN TIMES AS MUCH TAXPAYER MONEY since 2000 than the Democrats did under Clinton.
randomstranger @ 2:
Anyone from Hollywood who is NOT Charlton Heston, John Wayne, Ronald Reagan, Arnold the Governator, Jon Voigt.... Oh heck, Hollywood is only liberal when it's not being conservative.
And I couldn't agree more. Why does anybody CARE what actors think anyway? They spend their entire lives PRETENDING to be people that are important. At least within a fictional narrative. This whole practice of putting style and subliminal archetypes before substance hit its peak when Americal actually started electing ACTORS to public office. Just forget about poser politicians who were trained as lawyers, but can act like cowboys. Cut out the middle man, and just get ACTORS to run for public office. I can't believe California, and later the whole country would elect Ronald Reagan, who, as a CAREER spent his time memorizing a few lines to recite, and a few hand gestures to go along with them. THIS is a qualification for being a chief executive? Sure, it's a 'necessary condition' for being President, but it's only become a 'necessary AND sufficient condition' recently.
Gotta love that line from TEAM AMERICA: "As actors, it will be our duty to read other people's opinions in the papers, and then go on television and repeat them as if they were our own."
And John McCain will starve them to death
dennis @ 8:
Don't forget The Champ. One of the lamest movies ever.
Consider the source. Consider the venue.
No wonder Angelina doesn't speak to him.
JMB @ 51:
You want to feel like you had bleach poured on your brain, went into the spin cycle, and THEN down the rabbit hole? Read the comments accompanying the piece. Ruined my whole day.
God, there really are people who would vote for Bush pt3. They truly exist.
Charles @ 3:
At this point, I'm thinking maybe Burt Raynolds shot the wrong guy in Deliverance. But then again, they were two sides of the same coin, weren't they? On the one hand, you've got an illiterate hillbilly that goes around demanding that other people 'do some prayin'' for him, and on the other hand, you've got a rational SOUNDING guy who goes around telling everybody else that this hillbilly should be put in charge of the country.
Beside the fact that 99% of the piece is nonsense, it is so embarrassingly badly written that, on that point alone, it
invites ridicule.
When did this guy turn into a raving nutjob? Seriously, what put him over the edge? Please tell me it wasn't 9/11...that's almost become a cliche now.
If you want a good laugh you HAVE to watch the annual Chabad telethon. Voight goes crazy with the dancing! (Jan Murray's corpse is other reason to watch...)
theWalrus @ 32:
And whats-his-name...Texas ranger guy
I wish the author of this piece would "shred" each sentence apart because I would love the opportunity to respond.
I too wish actors would keep their mouths shut but Voight is right on.
Douche Bag says what ??
Well now I finally understand why Anjolina doesn't want anything to do with him. His views of the world is completely ignorant and prejudice without any factual substance. One can see she is more in touch with the first hand global "community" work she and Brad have done with there hands on charities. They make the world a better place, while Voght makes the world void of intellect, compassion and filled with self serving Bush types.
I saw JV on CNN right before a Palin nut parade and...Jeeez, I never knew how right-wing this fella was. He got all tripped-up trying to dis da libs. I guess I gotta throw away my National Treasure DVD collection now, dammit. Aye, Jon...were gonna have a black president in less than 30 days, deal with it.
"Gen. David Petraeus, who has brought hope and stability to Iraq"
good thing somebody has, because bush et al sure as hell haven't.
jon voight can suck my ass juice.
Voight is shitty actor whose better days are long behind and a steaming, chock-full-o'-shit crackpot! No wonder his daughter Angelina won't even talk to this douschebag anymore.
JR @ 27:
This is not from me.
Just wanted you all to know.
dennis @ 8:
Um yeah...but not because of Voight punk ass.
Bitter Bud Hussein @ 60:
Don't forget The Manchurian Candidate, probably the most appropriate movie to cite in this case. Although, this time it was the prisoner of war who DIDN'T get the microchip implanted into his brain. It was one of his BushBot enablers.
Dougyfresh @ 17:
That would do it. Still doesn't explain his rabid reich-wing douchebaggery.
Virginia Shanahan @ 68:
Right on what? Drugs? Alcohol? What?
I heard him interviewed on radio on The Don & Mike Show about a year ago, when he was extolling the virtues of Mitt Romney. This here is way, way, way over the top compared to that, but not unsurprising, I'm afraid...
Virginia Shanahan @ 68:
Yeah...and do tell, Virginia...what is he so right on about?
Well now we all know why his kids do not talk to him......Angelina has his number and now we all do. Last time he was interesting was getting a blow job in his first movie...not much to speak of since.
When he went on the air to say that his daughter needed psychiatric care (the incident that broke the reconciliation they'd begun to have) it seems he had the wrong family member in mind -- more of that typical rightwing projection. So now he's going all family values on us -- the guy who had affairs and abandoned his family. Do these guys come from a cliche factory? They all have these anti-family backgrounds, and ongoing anti-family habits, and they just loive to spout off all over actual families.
Cractacular!
one more has been actor heard from. look for his infomercials for an excercise machine coming to a middle of the night television broadcast soon. he and chuck norris side by side.
karen marie @ 70:
I don't think I would've said this...BUT I'M DAMN GLAD SOMEBODY DID! LOL!
OK....but who cares what Jon Voight thinks about politics? It's like Dave Chappelle's bit in his Live at the Fillmore routine. He was talking about how, on September 11, MTV had Ja Rule on and they asked him what he thought about things at that point. Dave's point was......who gives a fug? What insight could Ja Rule offer about the socio-political world that would clarify anything on that day? Similarly, what does Jon Voight know politics that might have any bearing on our world? Who cares what he thinks? Lots of people have stupid ideas, but in spotlighting them, we're only giving them more credit than they are due.
I too can understand why his daughter did not want to have anything to do with him, being so full of hate and urban legends in his warped mind. This is typical Reich Wing paranoia.
Extolling the virtues of Dousche Flopney!!! Now I really have a reason to dislike this dick!
Virginia Shanahan @ 68:
You're on, Virginia.
Good thinking? Whose standard do you apply to this? I have children. I want my children to be compassionate, educated, generous citizens of the world, who understand that human beings have intrinsic value.
Good thinking is dog-whistle coding for fascist people, of which I assume you claim to be.
No, Barack Obama grew up in Kansas with his white, Christian grandparents, as well as in Hawaii with his mother and her husband as well as overseas.
But don't let facts get in the way, right?
You know what? I grew up having a priest who was later indicted for molesting children. I managed not to be a pedophile or "militant" with that. Of course I realize that rightwingers need people to think for them, so I'm sure that's why you agree with such a ridiculous statement. I'm curious though, do you find that insulting the fact that God gave you a brain and free will makes you a better Christian?
Project much? The GOP is the "God and Guns" party. The GOP built Bush into a messiah that assholes like you will actually suggest I leave the country for not agreeing with him.
Do you even know what Socialist means? I don't think so. I think you're so stupid you actually think it just means some McCarthy-esque, Soviet "bad thing". I've gone to socialist countries. You wish we could have it so good. And you're going to have to show me how Obama--having distanced himself completely from those people--could possibly have them influencing public policy and how they could do that in the first place. The vague Red-scare bogeyman may work for you low information louts, but those of us with more than two brain cells to rub together just know that you don't know shit about how government works.
Shall I continue? Because I LOVE rubbing your ignorant and hate-filled noses in your lack of critical thinking. Ask anyone.
“The radicals of that era were successful in giving the communists power to bring forth the killing fields and slaughter 2.5 million people in Cambodia and South Vietnam.”
I always love this a-historic garbage. Pot’s forces, according to our own intelligence agencies, had support from less than 1% of the population. Pot himself was asked how many supporters he had before US bombing, he admitted that he had only a few thousand, loosely scattered throughout the country with little to no direction. We dropped more bombs on Cambodia than all the bombs dropped by the Allies during WWII, killing hundreds of thousands of people (at least). We destroyed the country to the point that our own government said that Cambodia, in order to get back to their pre-bombing standard of living (which wasn’t high to begin with), would have to undergo a couple years of country wide slave labor. Never mind also that the US eventually supported Pot’s forces.
In South Vietnam we supported a regime that had NO support what so ever from the Vietnamese population, which US intelligence admitted to. The vast majority of the country support Ho Chi Minh and the southern resistance. We refused to allow elections because we knew we had no choice and we wound up killing a few million people in SE Asia.
But yeah, it was the radicals’ fault of the US for all of that somehow.
what bullshit. we were already angry long long before barack came along as a nominee. (and his accomplishments so far if anything make us feel better about the future.) actually i always welcome knowing which celebrities are smart and which are dumb. he just told us who he is.
when did the GOP get into the recycling old has-beens business?
i submit that craptacular voight has no idea what freedom nor democracy mean.
but, by all means, i hope the moonie-times prints more of his 5th grade rants, they help expose just what the right has devolved in to
Amazing... Voight states that when he was younger, he was duped into believing a "marxist/socialist" ideal in fighting against the was in Vietnam... But now he is older and knows better...
However, he grants Obama absolutely no credit for the possibility that Obama has grown past the "angry, violent" teachings Voight claims Obama had when younger.
Of course! Voight, the absolute genius capable of parroting writers words can rise above his youthful indiscretions, but somebody intelligent enough make it through college, law school, and who has taught law couldn't possibly think for himself.
Voight is parroting again - except this time his writers are evil hacks.
I think you probably shouldn't have said Voight is no longer the guy that made Catch 22...fact is he probably is closest to that character - Milo Minderbinder, head of M&M Enterprises, the bunch that took the role of Blackwater and absolutely 'privatized' a war. Of course, based on this piece, he's 'effin' off his rocker. I don't see Hannity or any of the current 'paid for hate' pundits, I see the likes of a J.B. Stoner, and if you don't know who he was, look him up. He hated, Jews, Communists, n***ers, queers...et. al. That's what I read into Voight's piece in the Reverend Moon's newspaper. My bet is he's used all those references at other times about Obama and/or others he doesn't happen to care for. Wonder what his daughter would say about him?
casper46 @ 29:
He was not in the Deer Hunter.
The last time I heard of this has been was when George Costanza bought his convertible. I imagine he hates our socialist public roads, bridges, fire depts, police depts, etc... These douche bags that scream socialism need to pay more taxes.
FOX and Friends had Voight on today to let him spew. Very hypocritical considering FOX's talking heads bitch and moan when liberals from the entertainment world make their political voices heard yet here they are offering a national TV platform to an entertainer if he is a conservative.
"Thank God, today, we have a strong generation of young soldiers who know exactly who they are and what they must do to protect our freedom and our democracy. And we have the leadership of Gen. David Petraeus, who has brought hope and stability to Iraq and prevented the terrorists from establishing a base in that country. Our soldiers are lifting us to an example of patriotism at a time when we’ve almost forgotten who we are and what is at stake."
oh, bloody hell i think i just threw up my spleen. can people die from that?
thanks for nothin' voight.
Yes those radicals that attended Wright's church must have included Eric Rudolph, Tim McVeigh, Jim Adkisson or Luis Posado Carriles.
We all know where the hate lies in this country. Just pay a visit to Coeur D'Alene Idaho.
Don't give up your day job John boy.
Hmmmm.
I had long assumed 'Midnight Cowboy' was a documentary.
Moon @ 50:
Indeed....and he has a lot of money problems. This explains his lack of integrity.
Voight will remain a favorite actor of mine, but jeezuz. He makes another favorite of mine, John Wayne, look like a Philosopher King.
Yes, Jon, I see that you are very concerned about "the children." Well, Jon, Barack Obama never made a movie in which he performed (or simulated) oral sex on a nude (and highly stimulated) Jane Fonda. Oh, right, you only did that in one movie. What will "the children" think? And were you already a conservative nutcase when you filmed "Coming Home"? Or did you lose touch with reality sometime later?
Shut up and over-act.
-GSD
You really have to feel for Angelina Jolie who suffered years [deleted--you don't know that and we're not giving right wing blogs this kind of unsubstantiated slur to run with] at the hand of this monster.
I grew up a big fan of Voights. This is akin to meeting your favorite rock star and realizing that they are a complete and utter bitch tit.
Never liked his daughter though.
Jon Voight and Glenn Beck circle jerk:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnciLhH1sKM
I through up in a mouth a little toward the end when Voight claimed that Israel has bent over backward trying to help the Palestinians.
Didn't Jon Voight basically abandon his daughter Angelina Jolie? If so, fuck him and his opinion doesn't mean shit.
canary in a coal mine @ 105:
Yikes, that should have been "Threw up....."
So where is the outrage about Hollywood types shooting off the mouths about stuff they don't know. THIS is O.K. somehow.
Like Bush and his TORTURE BUDDIES are good examples for our children.
They ALWAYS turn reality upside down.
Obama is a "Sermon-On-The-Mount-Christian" ..
Bush is a "I-can-do-anything-I-want-because-I-am-saved-Christian" ..
Torture, lie, steal .. it don't matter .. I "took Jesus as my savior" so I go to Heaven.
Those "I-can-do-anything-I-want-because-I-am-saved-Christians" are what is wrong with America today.
"Thank God, today, we have a strong generation of young soldiers who know exactly who they are and what they must do to protect our freedom and our democracy."
For the love of Pete...what the hell is this idiot saying? "Thank God, today,...". Is this some kind of instruction for appeasing our (his?) non-sacrifice to a trumped up conflict that neither he nor his children would have the courage to serve in? And why "Thank God" for the death and dis figuration of thousands of young Americans? I don't recall that as a commandant to follow.
"...who know exactly who they are...", this doesn't make any sense! Is it self awareness? Did they discover their unique individuality? How can you do that in the military, I thought that soldiers were meant to be uniform? What, pray tell, becomes of those who DON'T know who they are, hmmmmmm?
"...to protect our freedom and our democracy." Okay...please enlighten us gentle readers as to whom it is that is threatens our sacred freedoms. Is it those socialists? Nooo... Maybe its those Godless (non-God thanking) communists? Nooo...Oh yeah, I remember, its the chimper and his gang of lawless conservatives.
As dumb as voight's op-ed is, the scariest part is that the pin head really believes the crap he spouts.
John Voight:
"THE MIDNIGHT TOWELBOY"
liberaMcSuuuurgeNmoderation @ 73:
Great point Dennis. Didn't that WWII dodging, career womanizing, racist, fake tough, Republican icon, John Wayne always play the war hero in his films?
"All actors are children." Marlon Brando. Voight is an actor. Therefore, he is a chid. Makes sense as children are not capable of entertaining/comparing/assessing abstract concepts (Jean Piaget, Swiss psychologist).
JR @ 72:
Who shot JR?
Fascinating how many guys become pro-war when they are too old to be drafted or enlist. Kind of like Dumbya, telling the troops how envious he was of them getting to fight in Afghanistan . . . "Wow, that sure looks like fun! If only I had realized what I was missing when I was young enough to get shot fighting a war some old guys started!"
Conrack was one of my favorite movies. Voit played Pat Conroy. A beautiful film full of love, hope and compassion.
Voit must be an idiot to give up the love so many had for the actor he once was. Old age is a terrible disease and there is no cure.
Jon Voight supports John McCain. The blind leading the stupid. "NUFF SAID"
Charles @ 4:
I've wanted for a long time to straighten out the meaning of words, used by the rightwing as slams against the liberals, such as socialism, communism. Does nobody know the origin, the real meaning of these words? Socialism is derived from society, simply refers to the good of the society. Of course, if you think the only society that is worth while, is your own and the weatlthy, of course, you don't care about the good of society. But if the rest of the society is neglectd, it will be dangerous for everybody.
What about Communism? The Russians co-opted the word, using it for a dictatorshfip. But that was not the real meaning of the word. The word originally meant community,. The first such, recorded, anyway, was in the early church, when the people gathered together, shared what they had. Later, monastaries and convents also had the same type of sharing among the members. Should a word be outlawed, made vile because it was used imporoperly.
So, don't be cowed by these words. They have good roots and should not be used as insults and criticisms.
Left&Left @ 112:
John Wayne = Marrion Morrison.
Ms. Belle leads off her article with these words:
"I generally don’t care about the political viewpoints of celebrities. Their ideology is no more or less valid than mine or yours, and frankly, I’ve never understood why someone who has gained notoriety for acting or sports necessarily merits being asked their opinions."
Funny how this opinion is hailed and accepted when it comes from a recognized writer on this forum, yet when I, a humble unknown with a big mouth (and an avowed leftist), wrote almost these same words last week in response to the rapper Nas's lyrics I was roundly flamed on these same pages. I guess you have to pick the celebrity that you disagree with...just sayin'...
Jon Voight and I worked in the same George McGovern campaign office in Los Angeles in the June 1972 Democratic primary. He should be careful about attacking the views of sixties progressives, of which he was then one.
OMG! No wonder his daughter doesn't want anything to do with him. Has he become completely unhinged?
Jo @ 120:
Read Frank Zappa's autobiography, he tells a great story about meeting John Wayne. Apparently Zappa was sitting on some steps in a place and was wearing a large flat brimmed hat with a high rounded crown. A very inebriated John Wayne was in the joint and every time he staggered past Eff Zee, he'd take his fist and punch the crown down on Frank's hat. Frank would then take the hat off and calmly pop the crown back into its proper shape. Finally, after doing this one time too many, Frank confronted the Duke and the Duke looked at Frank and said, "Hey! I remember you! You BLEW ME in Morocco!" Frank was stunned on several levels, not the least of which was that John Wayne apparently was admitting to a homosexual oral encounter at some time in his life!
Ever notice how a great deal movies about aliens entail invasion, hostile takeover and armed conflict? Frankly, I have thought that it's just us projecting our base hostilities on a theoretical species. We imagine they would land and just start exterminating us because, hey!, that's what we would do. History books and modern times are full of our violence and aggression on each other and other species.
Then I look at Republicans. Many folks here know how often republicans project their own hostile qualities upon everyone else (I can list those instances some other time; I am just making a short point here). So I submit this:
They live in abject fear of The Other every day, all day and react with aggression, selfishness and often lunacy, as our friend Mr Voight has, because they took one look into the craven contents of their own souls, saw what they are capable of and lash out for fear of those others having those same qualities.
Terrible thing, living in fear...
"Runaway Train" - a great movie.
But the list of actors whom I've lost respect for due to reasons having nothing to do with film grows longer and longer. I'm afraid that most of Hollywood and just about lost its connection with the real world and that includes liberal actors & producers as well.
wow-- that is sad-- i wouldn't have expected that kind of foolishness from him--
I don't mean to play on Mr. Voight's fears or anything (far be it from me to ever contemplate such a thing), but what he probably doesn't know yet is that Premier Obama will be unveiling the glorius new Soviet Socialist Republic of America in late January. I'm on the People's Planning Committee for Corrections and thus, I can say with some authority that Mr. Voight will be one of the first to be subjected to internal exile for his reactionary rantings.....
Surging Blue Lensman @ 128:
Yeah. They just don't make 'em like they used to. The scripts are written for 15 year olds besides.
"...has managed a propaganda campaign with subliminal messages...." -voighty toity
take that statement, and a pinch of McClellan admitted that “certainly” the White House used Fox News talking heads as “spokespeople” with “a script”
mix it together and you have yourself a steaming pile of rightwing doublestandards, their MO
"Read Frank Zappa's autobiography, he tells a great story about meeting John Wayne. Apparently Zappa was sitting on some steps in a place and was wearing a large flat brimmed hat with a high rounded crown. A very inebriated John Wayne was in the joint and every time he staggered past Eff Zee, he'd take his fist and punch the crown down on Frank's hat. Frank would then take the hat off and calmly pop the crown back into its proper shape. Finally, after doing this one time too many, Frank confronted the Duke and the Duke looked at Frank and said, "Hey! I remember you! You BLEW ME in Morocco!" Frank was stunned on several levels, not the least of which was that John Wayne apparently was admitting to a homosexual oral encounter at some time in his life!
Maureen O'Hara has told a story of a drunken Wayne being thrown out of director John Ford's house by the great man himself. She drew the duty of driving him home. Halfway there, the Duke suddenly shouted,"Stop the car"! She did, he lurched out, and stumbled up the walkway to the house of a total stranger. He pounded on the door, and when the owner answered, he said something like, "I'm John Wayne. How 'bout offering me a drink"? Of course, the guy did. A mortified O'Hara then got him back in the car, and finally got him home.
I generally don't care about the viewpoint of celebrities, but...you really do....hahaha
Just because you're popular doesn't keep you from being an ass!
Why does this guys opinion matter?
He sounds like he's losing it. Never mind - he sounds like he's lost it already.
And why should they subject their substantial audience to the hysterics of a delusional Hollywood old-timer?
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I detect the signs of accelerating and irreversible mental decline in this sad article.
lol... it's no wonder his daughter wants nothing to do with him...
Anybody even thinking of supporting mccain, should listen to Davis and realize if they vote mccain, they reward gutter politics.
Did anyone else hear the interview this morning on Faux Noise where Jon said he was very worried that the clueless, stupid crew there approve of what he said and then laughed nervously? He was actually pathetic at this point.
If his daughter Angelina were listening, she must have shaken her head in shame and disbelief...Voight has turned into just another poor sad has-been kneeling at the altar of power.
Dear Jon,
Just because you are an Academy Award winning actor doesn't mean that you are particularly well qualified for political commentary. As the saying goes, sometimes it's better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak up and remove all doubt.
So do us a favor. If you haven't got anything redemptive or valuable to add, just say nothing. Your ego may tell you that you are sooo important, but your commentary tells us a very different story. Please don't bore us anymore with your self important, opinionated ramblings. I'll watch Keith Olbermann or Rachel Maddow if I need good political commentary.
Sincerely,
Ex-Fan
BrokenArrow @ 95:
They might be thinking of "Coming Home" with Voight and Jane Fonda. Fonda criticized "Deer Hunter" as representing the adminstration line on the Vietnam War, but admitted she hand't seen the movie.
Paul @ 130:
The wheels of revolution will crush you, Mr. Voight, and your decadent capitalist pigs that you call friends will not be spared either. Comrade Obama told me so!
No wonder his own daughter wants nothing to do with this jackass. Although I must express worries about his actual mental health status!!!
In psychology, I think they call this "projection". Liberals are angry, militant, and want to program their followers? ROFL
Holy crap, I'm a proud lefty myself, but how can you not know the name of "the texas ranger guy":>)
http://www.chucknorrisfacts.com/
Pat Riot @ 9:
Uhhh.... no. I don't think so.
SHe's a MEGA star and is not adopting kids for "appearance sake." She also did not move to New Orleans to help with relief and rebuilding efforts to "improve her image."
Show me another top mega star who has done this in the prime of her career?
In my book she is still one of the most desirable babes in Hollywood!
dennis @ 8:
He wasn't in Deer Hunter, your ignorance seems to be boundless...
when did voight loose his mind?
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