Right wing TV Pundits destroy every segment on Democratic Convention
Every time I turn on the TV and watch CNN and FOX (my hotel doesn't get MSNBC) every Republican operative controls the dialog and direction of the panel discussion and it's disgusting. Just one example---Hillary Clinton gave a brilliant speech last night, but every Amy Holmes-type talking head throws as much cold water on the speech as he or she can. The result is that the Dem talkers spend the rest of the time disputing the outrageous claims made and thus the GOP controls the entire framing and the entire segment. It's shameful that the networks are allowing this to happen. I saw Jeffrey Toobin tell Amy that she was out of her mind with some of her comments and the discussion continues to that end. Soledad O'Brien comes back and says "well, that was a lively discussion." Oh, no it was not. It's a calculated ratf&@k. This is going on all day and all night.
Why is the Democratic Convention being ruined by these creeps? And why do all the networks allow it to happen? Why do we need them on in force to counter what is supposed to be our event?
I'm in Denver and it's a completely different atmosphere. Party unison abounds, but you'd never know it from watching TV. Karl Rove acts like the biggest troll known to man---making sure to point out every little detail he dislikes. Well, his mission is to get McCain in the White House. But he's the expert that Chris Wallace goes to for his "unbiased" take.
Will the Democratic talkers be allowed to do the same to the Republican Convention? I think not. It will be viewed as being an incredible event.
I've notice that too.
When they control the information, they can bend it all they want.
(h/t to narcissist John Mayer)
Feel sorry you are forced to listen to that. I am beginning to do a Cheney (oh my GOD) and make sure hotel has both MSNBC and Comedy Central before I agree to a reservation.
I watched PBS and it was a little better than what you describe last night.
My question: When did we begin to depend on pundits and their bloviation? It seems like we don't get any newsworthy event without 90 "experts" opining on it nowadays.
I'm sick and tired of being spoonfed crappola.
The only way to change the media is to withdraw your consent. Stop watching. Tell your friends to stop watching. Have them tell their friends to stop watching.
As long as they have eyeballs, they have advertisers. As long as they have advertisers, complaints are just more hot air. Meaningless at worst, advertising at best.
John,
Do you really think there is a difference between these two parties? I think history can show us both sides are different sides of the same political coin. No matter which way the coin falls, we the citizens get screwed.
It's painfully obvious to me. I don't truth either party whatsoever.
Chill. They aren't ruining the convention. Don't give these creeps a power they don't have. Their power is big enough, to be sure, but not all-powerful. So we push back, but we don't have to power.
well, i'm sure that the networks will have dem talking heads on all during the repub's convention.
yeah, right!
Soledad on CNN has also been making a point of calling it the "Democrat Party". She keeps injecting her own little spin and she knows exactly what she's doing.
Lilybelle @ 6:
Don't have to cower. Typing and drinking wine at the same time. Oops.
Average Guy @ 5:
Sorry I meant "trust"
I'm watching it on CSPAN as the networks only show what they want you to see and the damn pundits won't shut up. You can also hear it on Sirius and XM.
Watch C-SPAN and/or PBS and pass on the gasbags.
It's all they have. Next week, the Republican convention other than their lying, revolting attacks will be a snooze fest. KCET, a local Los Angeles PBS station carried all the speeches as did the radio station KPFK, a Pacifica station. The speeches were very inspiring, and many had siginificant points to make about the Democratic agenda. Do you think the Republicans dare talk about their agenda, their platform. No, of course not, that will be a national security top secret document.
Vicki
Stop whining and let's just throw cold water on them next week. Sounds good?
Watch the Democratic Convention without commercials or commentary.
Watch on C-Span.
http://www.c-span.org/
Includes video of speeches and workshops from previous days.
Or go to the pages with Live Coverage:
RealPlayer:
http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN_rm.aspx
Windows Media Video:
http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN_wm.aspx
Vermin says:
"I am beginning to do a Cheney (oh my GOD) and make sure hotel has both MSNBC and Comedy Central before I agree to a reservation."
That is a GREAT idea. Imagine if we all did this. And the big hotel chains would have to realize who their clientèle really are and they have to begin catering to the comedy central crowd! I love this idea!
There is a difference between the two parties...gotta go.
I've been watching MSNBC and enjoying Chris Matthews ridiculous ever changing wind swept hair art.
It's plastered to his skull today in a kind of nouveau "Roman Senator" meets dumpster diver look.
Cspan is great! And the streaming web from the DNC is good too. Just avoid all the negative, cynical pundits.
John Amato @ 17:
Zing!
Try C-Span.
All-day convention, pundit-free.
Ahhhhhhhhh!
This is precisely why I'd prefer NOT to watch CNN. I was absolutely appalled by Campbell Brown's total cynicism and negativity. I thought WTF is going on here? Is CNN finally showing their fascist colors or what? I flipped into CNN following the stellar moment in our nation's history when Obama was made the candidate and Gloria Borgia looked like she was going to barf. Anyone and I mean ANYONE who was not moved by what just occurred at this convention does not have a pulse or is such a pathological misanthrope that they don't deserve recognition.
Let's all email CNN and tell them that they've outed themselves and the american people will have none of it. Boycott their sponsors and hit them where it hurts.
I found the moderators during this event absolutely repulsive and disgusting. Wolf Blitzer, John, Campbell Brown, Gloria Borger (or Borgia) are so clearly republican that they should never have been moderating this event for the democrats. The democrats are projecting unity and celebrating our oneness and, at every turn, each of them interjected cynicism, competition, and even the Republican meme (Campbell brown) into the narration of the convention. They do not deserve the respect of the american people. They deserve to be shunned and their sponsors boycotted.
Kudos to John Amato for bringing his observations to us - we second them one hundred percent. Now it's time to express our dissatisfaction directly to CNN.
Does anyone have contact information for the head of CNN? If so, please pass it on so we can deluge him/her with criticism and let them know that we will no longer watch their programming.
OMG that is just what I had been venting about to anyone who will listen. I don't know if I can watch CNN anymore at all. C-Span is the only way to watch the convention without the boobleheads spewing their disgust. It will be a lovefest when the GOP has their convention and I will be vomiting everynight.
They don't even try to hide their bias anymore. The woman on CNN said, "And now back to the Democrat Convention," with a look of disgust on her face and tone in her voice. Shouldn't their be a law against hiring boobleheads from the administration to work on the Network News channels as if they are real newscasters!
Something has to change!! TV media no longer is real, it is a fabrication of the world as conservatives see it.
It is geared to the baseness and lowest forms of humans in our country. It preys on our emotional weaknesses. I was and will continue to scream at them and will blame the media if Obama loses. It's off to Ohio to go door to door for me. Get out the VOTE. Talk till you are blue in the face (no pun intended).
OBAMA 08
Linda in Oregon @ 21:
C-SPAN IS THE WAY TO GO. BOYCOTT CNN NOW.
I agree 100% with John Amato. And that's why I'm watching the coverage of the Democratic Convention on Al-Jazeera English. That's right, Al-Jazeera!
I speak on behalf of the world: FUCK YOU REPUBLICANS AND THE ASS RIMMING MEDIA YOU RODE IN ON!!
It is in the intere$t of the media to keep this a close election. If it goes too much in the favor of Obama, they will push the talk to McShitforBrains and visa versa. It's their bottom line, they want everyone watching. That's why Wolf and Tweety and still around. I quit watching msm and turned to c-span, public tv, public radio and of course the internet. Fvckm.
I didn't see the Clinton speech, but I got to watch the Republicans, in full Brady Bunch format, get 30 minutes of analysis and shit throwing in afterwards.
Even Hillary Rosen fucked up, when she said "John McCain" instead of Barack Obama when talking about who Hillary was going to support.
Carville was the only one throwing down on CNN, but fuck it. We all know the game. This thing may not be close at all, but you'd never know it based on the Traditional Media's onslaught.
Our country is fucked - no critical thinkers and a bunch of corporate shill propagandist bitches at the helm.
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Darya @ 23:
CNN is so overtly republican that it's sickening. Now we know precisely where they're coming from. Time to boycott the Republican National Convention on CNN and show them the power of the purse. (boycott every advertiser as well). I have found their coverage to be totally biased, overtly negative and cynical, as well as very active attempts to create problems where none have existed.
It's clear to everyone now that CNN is just another reichwing propaganda mouthpiece - no different than Fox News. These idiot bobbleheads deserve no respect and should, instead, be out on the unemployment lines. Their presentation of the news is biased and unfair. They should be ashamed of themselves and the assholish way they've covered this convention.
What did you expect?
Anyway, I don't watch ANY network TV (don't live in US! Ha ha!!).
I watch the DNC on Youtube and C-Span.
Awwww NO PUNDITOS there.
No one to tell me what to think after the fact.
It's soooo nice.
I agree with you John. I watched MsNBC and even got tired of the pundits there. Pat Buchanan was insufferable. I caught segments of CNN and (the horrors!) Faux "news." Laura Ingraham and Billo and Dennis Miller ( what ever happened to him, anyway?) went on and on and on. It was disgusting. Thank goodness I didn't get to see that traitor Karl Rove, I might have just lost it.
Today, I am ONLY watching Cspan. I don't really need the pundits to tell me what to think. I urge everyone to do the same and save yourself the trouble if you have cable. If not, stick with Utube.
So, how many democrats are going to *not* destroy every segment on the Republican Convention, no matter how much they feel is right (or how much is right?)
It's their job to tear down the Democrats. People pay their bills and their grandson's bills to do this.
Darya @ 23:
solid @ 26:
ALL TV media are nothing more than sycophantic reichwing whores who pimp the people for a paycheck. The respect level for these paid whores is descending by the moment. The coverage of this convention proves that what they present is nothing but "spin and bullshit". Believe absolutely NOTHING you hear on CNN or Fox.
This is all obviously the liberal media bias we constantly hear about...
/end snark
here's some basic CNN contact info:
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/cnntv/
LibertyLover @ 31:
Isn't it so much more peaceful to see the convention without the interruption and verbal diarrhea of these nuckle-headed idiots? Amazingly so. Besides, why would I pollute my mind with the rantings of paid whores who tote the party line for a paycheck? They're nothing more than a rehearsed bunch of buffoons....every last one of them.
These so-called journalists are filthy rich. They know if a democrat gets in they can kiss their precious tax-cuts good-bye. Did anyone notice how Bush isn't even covered anymore. The press is busy shielding their golden boy.
Widespread @ 1:
That's why we're waiting....for all the old, lifeless, self admitted professional pundits
(a.k.a. GOP water haulers) to die off and go away.
Until then, turn off the teevee and save what remains of your brain.
All of this is Kabuki theater of, by and for the talking class and the village idiots, they're paid to talk not think.
pinkobait @ 35:
Thanks a bunch for this link. Everyone now needs to begin bombarding the hierarchy at CNN with complaints about their moderation and bobbleheads. In the meantime, diss them by tuning into C-Span instead.
Lone Rogue @ 32:
Try to pay attention. We're not talking about Democrats here. We are talking about the "unbiased" ****cough****bullshit*** media conglomerate.
Why?
Becuase the networks owners want them to.
you need some straight talking British guy on there - you know `That's bollocks xxxx and you know it - what's really happening is this this this and that`
Pundits are just blowhards and windbags paid to reinforce what the news producers want to run with to dumb it down even further for the mindless fools who actually think theyre still getting information and not infotainment.
There are very, very few exceptions in the pundit pool. I dont see any reason to grant the rest any creedence, but Mr Amato shouldnt bitch, these assholes give him great blog fodder, and that pays the bills. ;)
Frankly, I love to see the nonsense people pay cable companies to watch. Its one of the many reasons I dont pay for cable. Its such crap the cable companies should have to pay their subscribers to watch it.
Turning off the TV is not good enough. The Democrats are a growing group. And our base is much more excited about this election than the GOPs. It's necessary to flood the press with calls and letters of complaint to ask for them to provide honest coverage.
Karl Rove and his cohorts sabotaged the Democrats in the presidential elections of 2000 and 2004. The Republicans are doing it again. They are hijacking the DNC by controlling the mainstream media narrative. If the Dems cannot protect themselves against the dirty tricks of the Republicans; how can we trust them to protect us against Islamic terrorists?
sophya @ 36:
Yes. It is. I even got to see a replay of the Montana Governor's speech, that never even made it on the tube last night due to the talking heads.
I intend to watch the Repubs next week the same way.
Holmes is a right wing sock puppet of long standing. I've never seen anything she said on CNN, convention or not, that wasn't shameless going down on the Republican Party.
The "Corporate Fix" is in full swing. They will not have an outsider take the lead role in this country and especially due to his race.
If Obama losses this election with all that is against the repubs, the so called close polls, and the questionable voting machines, trust me I will never vote again. There is no need to since they seem to be choosing whom they want the the media.
Well, now ya know why I ain't paying much attention in real time at night to the blow by blow of this convention even though its almost as station and news saturated as the olympics were on T.V. last week... My BP gets tweaked enough just coming to this site and seeing what the goddamned republics have done to the nation and world the previous 24... I just don't want to deal with it after work at night too..... I've already conned myself into following Denny's advice.. That's about as far as I can go with the rah rah except to check it out sporadically on T.V. and here......JD
Well, the Dems are sending a full complement of pundits to the Twin Cities. The network there will not be controlled by Fox, as it is in Denver. But that doesn't affect the chattering
on the sets. Fox is doing itself up proud: totally boring. MSNBC does have spice. Olbeman and Scarborough have come close to duking it out (they're not on the set I don't believe), and the amazing Rachel has had a steady diet of debunking Buchanan. Buchanan's so pathetic he's
almost entertaining. And they're outside too.The rest of the MSNBC bunch are pretty bunch business as usual, good, bad, ugly. Chuck Todd is interesting too. I've given up on CNN....I can't stand Blitzer anymore.Personality problem, I guess. And only Fox has more visually boring set.
I sure hope the Dems send some "take no prisoners" pundits. The kind that will say "talking points", "empty slogans", "we've heard all of this before....a 100 times...". Nah, they'll probably send.....Lanny Davis and Wolfson.
I wouldn't stay in any hotel that had Fox but not MSNBC. Just for principle's sake. Or, at least I'd lodge a strong principled protest!
P.D. @ 37:
Not only Bush:Iraq.
Some recent headlines:
"Iraq bomb kills police recruits"
Chain wrapped around 'old man's body' found in mosque
"Bomb Shatters Party, Killing 25 Iraqis"
"Blackwater defends team in Baghdad shootings"
So, instead of whining about Soledad and her childish mispronunciation (paid for by the GOP), CALL CNN and tell them you don't appreciate their right-wing operatives interpreting the news. Post on their comments sections about it. And, turn to CSPAn or PBS. You don't have to watch these clusterfuckers. Oh, and be sure and let the sponsors know, too.
sophya @ 24:
Hear Hear! Boycott cable (except for Olbermann :)
FOX IS FOX.......pure bullshit. CNN keeps the news cycle alive, everyone trying to outdo the others. Their coverage is harmful to the country as they make stories where there are none.
I've been following the convention on the internet this week (had to go back to work, dammit). I'm looking ahead to January and realized that I'll be in a highly republican city for a state conference during the swearing-in. I know from experience that the hotel I've already had to book into only carried Faux (of course) and CNN, but fortunately they have free and unlimited internet access!!! Since the trusty MacBook Pro goes everywhere with me, I'll just bookmark some places to watch on-line ahead of time and reserve my sessions around the critical time.
I have confidence. When Obama takes the oath, I'm going to make sure I'll catch the moment and it sure as hell won't be on FOX or CNN.
Wanting to watch some coverage of the convention I turned on the evening new that had announced they would provide coverage - It was impossible to hear anything that was being said on the podium for all of the banter between newscasters and their continued "analysis" so I went to the trusty internet, downloaded the gizmos that would allow me to watch uninterrupted video from the podium complements of the DNCC - Now in my spare time I will contact CBS, NBC and ABC to let them know that I do not appreciate the prima dona act of their newscasters, I do not need an analysis of what is being said or "what this all means" - in other words just shut the fuck up and provide coverage. I have taken my business elsewhere - let them explain that to their advertisers. I do not bother to communicate with FOX except to tell them that they are weasles.
So, I hope that everyone will send an email to the major networks and let them have it.
BigT @ 43:
Right on Big T. That's why we have so much right wing media today. The right wing nut radio heads have been encouraging their audience for years contact the big networks. It's our turn, our responsibility to call and demand honest coverage!
Jon,
I believe it boils down to money.
The networks need to make money to keep operating.
There's a reason that "if it bleeds, it ledes" is part of the national lexicon.
The news industries need to keep the people who will provide them with more bad news in office.
So...the media uses its power to sway the electorate toward the party that gives them the news that provides more profits.
Years and years ago, WTBS out of Atlanta, tried running a show about nothing but good news with John Tush.
It panned. Badly. No one cares about good news.
This is just "you provide the story; we'll provide the war" redux.
Joe Scarbore is an ass. Total bullshit! It does seem that he has been put in his pace a little, though. MSNBC should just cut him loose. I change channels when he shows up.
I've been watching the MSNBC, and while it's been the same old overdramatizing of the "rift between Clinton and Obama", even they couldn't poo-poo last night's speech. Even Pat Buchanan raved about it. They allowed that speech to answer all their questions for them, and they weren't trying to incessantly push that narrative today.
I wasn't so much persuaded by the narrative as I was annoyed by it. It felt manufactured from the get-go.
And I suspect the MSM skips over all the speeches by the "little people" ..
But those have been some real gems.
For instance Lilly Ledbetter - whose successful suit against GoodYear for gender discrimination was overturned by the Supreme Court. Her style was wooden, she spoke in a thick Alabama accent. She moved me to tears.
MountainMan23 @ 62:
BIIIIIG time.
McCain said he was going to depend on the media and the media has done it's job for him. We knew it and realize that we have a bigger fight to win. That means we have to fight harder and not give up no matter how hard it gets. When it comes to the elections, we have to make sure every vote is counted honestly. We have to make sure that Diebold doesn't switch the votes. Please, don't let them get away with their B.S. again.
I won't watch CNN anymore it it has got to be a joke as far as being objective and unbiased , watching CNN last night after Clinton spoke at the Dem convention I thought maybe Rupert Murdoch had taken over CNN and that I hadn't heard the news . CNN , ABC , FOX ... I don't even bother anymore . Pathetic , absolutely pathetic .
I never watch the TV coverage live, nor will I pay for calbe, but I was at the Minnesota State Fair last night, and found a place to watch Hillary's speech. Katie Couric was loathesome, interviewing Mitt Romney during the segment (who looks like Lord Farquad from Shrek now) turning every interview into a statement about how McCain's strategy was "working" yadda yadda. BUT I also heard this morning that a die-hard Republican relative plans to vote for Obama; if he is voting Obama, then the pundits have it all wrong.
It is why I can not stand to watch the corporate media and their gas-bags anymore .... the internet is the only good source.
John Amato @ 17:
I used to believe that myself. But all I see is a staged left/right paradigm. One party commits crimes and the other covers it up, blames the other and vice versa. Another 4 years pass and it repeats itself. Why won't the Dems repeal the Patriot Act? Why won't they end the wars?
Neither party recognizes the Constitution anymore except for a very few members in the Congress like Kucinich and Paul. We have a criminal administration and a Democratic speaker of the house that say Impeachment is off the table.
What's the difference?
so true. larry king even has a nightly gop reaction to the convention day. duh? of course theyre going to diss everything as much as they can. rethugs are not known for reason and graciousness. so after the convention, i go to msnbc. with a live crowd, the atmosphere is more festive and truly reflects more of just what happened inside the convention center.
my worry is though larry king will probably give dems the same courtesy next week, they will no have the appetite to do the same thing the rethugs. they should start sending out talking points to the people larry king booked on his show.
i saw bill burton today on msnbc. he should be put out there more. he's genial and he makes sense. he said that the campaign is not going to apologize for attracting many people. true, why should they?
It's almost to the point where they are finally cutting their own throats. I could not even imagine watching, umm what do they call it, news? Did the meaning of that word change while I was getting out getting drunk?
I couldn't imaging myself watching anything for that matter.
All told it (tv) has proven itself to be an inherently evil artifact.
Yeah, ya' gotta find a few great websites to check a couple times of day and you can keep up quite nicely.
Well, what DID you expect from the corporate-owned media? That they would be impartial? PUH-LEEZ! They'll do everything they can to diminish the Democratic ticket, and if Obama and Biden don't fight back HARD and mean, they'll get away with it. The Dems need to be kicking ass literally and metaphorically from now through election day if they are to even have a chance. There's a hell of a lot riding on this election and there are a lot of very rich, very powerful people who feel they have a lot to lose.
I watched it on CSPAN and the net.
There was no FOX NETWORK CONTROL THERE.
The really good question is this:
WHO INSIDE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY ALLOWED FOX NEWS NETWORK TO BE THE ONLY MEDIA COMPANY TO OWN THE FEED FROM THEIR CONVENTION?
In other words, who is the FOX MOLE INSIDE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY?
AND
How long before you Democrats out there wake up and cancel your paid TV?
You are $upporting the ENEMY.
Average Guy @ 68:
You are the difference. You have to quit being just the "AVERAGE GUY."
Average Guy @5 does have a valid point, sometimes I feel like both parties are taking part in a "Good-cop / Bad-Cop" game so that they can accomplish what they want to do. One party takes it too far and the people protest, then the next party takes over and makes everyone believe they are doing their best to reverse the attrocities of the former party. Of course, they never manage to set things straight, blaming the gridlock in congress for their failure. The people get angry and years later the other party is elected and the cycle continues.
Let's face it. The corporate elite own both parties, they own the House, the Senate, the media, the banks, and the Supreme Court. The corporate elite will take 5 bushels of apples and give one bushel back to appease the protesters. The people think they won a victory, but sadly they have lost every single time. They will never allow any big changes that will interfere with their profit and control of the people. An honest politician can never accomplish what he/she wants to do because the corporate elite will never let it happen. They will smear anyone who actually stands up for the people. They will never allow someone with a voice for the people any substantial air time, atleast, not without calling that person crazy, smearing, or discrediting them. The elite want to destroy the middle class. All that will be left is the obscenely rich and the extremely poor. The poor will be forced to work for a pitance while the fat cats get richer and richer.
I fear that even Obama will not be able to accomplish much, even though most of the country is behind him. The people will forget what the Republicans did and their anger will be directed to the Democrats because nothing was done. They will then elect another Republican and the vicious cycle will continue.
Regarding the corporate elite dominated media: (I got most of the following from the internet)
All these media giants would be severely crippled
if the viewers turned it off
and canceled their accounts.
they can not live without OUR MONEY.
CANCEL YOUR PAY TV AND HELP SAVE YOUR NATION.
Its crazy but the right controls the script.
You have a black man running against a deep in the thick of the establishment white rich old man - turn the black guy into the out of touch elitist.
You have a GOP potential nominee running in the primaries who was so deeply unpopular in his own party that you have the types of limbaugh and coulter saying they would never vote for him in a million years. once he he wins the nomination what do you do you? you push the story that the democrats are in are no unified and are in disarray.
you have brilliant speeches being made and all you see are the right dumping their nasty horribel negative nonsense on every single thing that happens.
Michelles obamas speech was amazing but the right have managed to pretty nullify it.
You almost have to admire their unbending un wavering dedication to lies and distortion.
It sucks but the democrats have to get tougher.
Bill maher said it best. he said democrats lose because democrats are pussies.
They need to slink down to the GOPs level.
I mean look at how much airtime has been given to these ridiculous PUMAS. and it isn't just fox. Its all of them.
As far as I could see the pumas consisted of two people but it was given so much attention you would think thousands and thousands of them stormed the convention.
The right control everything.
every time I turn on the t.v. and it doesn't matter which one it is there is a right winger gettting the lies out there that this convention is failing.
next week we will here things like "hes a new man" "envigorated" "energized" "like we've never seen him before" " you would never know he was aman in his 70's he is speaking like a man more than half his age" "his experiance outshone obama" "seperated the men from the boys" etc etc etc
mark my words. that is what we will hear next week.
It was sayonara to CNN after seeing Ben Stein and William Bennett there.
There's a convention? I thought the republican news programs had been expanded to a "all through the evening format." Guess I better turn on c-span but how am I gonna know what I should be thinking so I am not too different then those around me?
and yes...I am the worlds worst typist!!
The winger pundits are working to do to political coverage what Bush has done to governing. Make the political process so unpalatable that it turns off the maximum number of people. Then they won't have to spend money covering it. Like Bush, they just mouth the words "freedom" and "democracy," while working to undermine them.
Centrocitta @ 25:
Such is American 'Federal Politics'.
51% of the electorate buys into this.
"Al-Jazerra ??'
I suspect they are as good as BBC news .
Ron @ 72:
I do try. I'm trying to unite people instead of being separated by these two party lines. I have found a group who really cares about this country. I joined Ron Paul's " Campaign for Liberty". It's a PAC group that will fund any candidate for local and state offices regardless of party affiliation just as long as they uphold the Constitution. He has already endorsed a Democrat as well as Independents.
In only two months we have 90,000 people pledged to help any Democrat, Republican, Independent, Green, Libertarian who promises to defend and restore our Constitution.
yOU JUST NOTICING THIS NOW? even msnbc all day. Cann is fox lite. fox is gop propoganda, on par with russian and nazi of the past. Abc cbs nbc? We have a gop bought and paid for media. Olberman and pbs are the lone real voices. To take back democracy we must take back the media. End this us weekly gossio heresay and gop talking points all day everyday. When does reality get it's chance in "the news"? I hope it's soon. But this has been going on for years. And the gop has the balls to call the media liberal. Any sane human with eyeballs can see what's going on.
"Right wing TV Pundits destroy every segment on Democratic Convention"
Media: "The plan is working just as you said it would, Master!"
RoveCorpAmerica: "Yes!" (Makes hand-washing motions)
Apologies to Pinky and the Brain
Average Guy @ 80:
Then I'm right. You are the difference.
I just had a thought on this subject and intend to blog about it whereever I see this come up.
Hasn't it occured to these concern trolls that they are merely firing up the Obama base and the Democratic base on a whole? And on top of that, they are firing up the unity issue to every democrat and Bush-hating independent watching them at that moment. I don't think that concern trolling is helping their side at all, and nor is insulting everyone's intelligence in the process. And, yes, I do give people the benefit of the doubt in this regard, they don't like to be jerked off and that is all this is.
And when someone like Rove responds with: "Well, I think that they need to be fired up." The response to this should be: "Oh, I think you're side is doing a swell job of doing that" And then just leave it at.
I get the convention straight and unfiltered from C-SPAN, and commentary and humor from the brilliant Jon Stewart. The CNN talking heads are stupid and annoying.
I've been watching MSNBC, basically because I like Rachel Maddow and want to support any station that gives her a television show. I think C-SPAN is better because there is no talking over the speeches (I completely missed the Montana Governor speech!) but I must admit that I enjoy hearing Olberman and Maddow gush about the good speeches when they are done. Its so nice to hear true liberals on cable news unafraid to voice common place liberal positions. It's unfortunate that it took this long, and unfortunate that other networks feel the need to stick to the republican orthodoxy that liberal ideas and opinions are taboo on national television (even though 50% of the country is liberal!). So, for that reason I now watch MSNBC pretty consistently, unless I really want to get riled up by watching a whole panel of morons eat up Bill Kristol's spiteful and ridiculous nonsense, then I turn to FAUX news, but only briefly because I lose too many remote controls that way.
The MSM will do their best to make it look magnificent, but everyone I know is saying the same thing. The RNC is going to be a joke, a freakshow funeral.
I think CNN is worse than FoxNews. At least FoxNews is blatantly rightwing, but CNN hides it...Campbell Brown...ahem...hack!
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Dag, it's depressing being old enough to remembery when the teevee actually paid REPORTERS to cover things like political conventions. Guess the AFTRA minimums they can toss the bloviators (who are just suplementing their GOP paychecks anyway) makes more financial sense than actually using employees - what with their communistic health care and 401k demands.
WTF is KKKarl Rove even doing on teevee? Well, not doing a perp walk anyhoo...
Very likely when Obama is President he will reinstate the Fairness Doctrine and crack down on the Media Monopoly of the news. The networks, cable and air, HATE and FEAR that day when their tyranny will be exposed and deposed.
A truly FREE press is the foundation, the bedrock of a functioning democracy.
What makes me mad is the clinton's people all going on fox to save that station from being closed down. mcculiife wolfson davis. I know it's unity time, and I think that speach last night was genius. Really shocked me. Once you cut the head off the snake dies. Once fox goes down the media changes. Until then its" Some people say, blah blah blah". Those some people are gop fascist propogandists who will say anything. ANYTHING. to choose party/group/money over the good of the nation is treason. Was is and always will be. The gop are party loyalists. They choose party over the nation time and time again. Can't we give them their own coutnry where they can be as fascist and clon-like as they want and play their games with themselves? Can't we ship them to northern canada. they hate america. If we flip the bill they may be down.
"Very likely when Obama is President he will reinstate the Fairness Doctrine and crack down on the Media Monopoly of the news. The networks, cable and air, HATE and FEAR that day when their tyranny will be exposed and deposed. "
We can pray. The gop is pissing themselves over that one. We should not pity them. They have had compleate media control (other than olberman maddow and a few others). Look where it got us as a nation. Look at the national dialogue. We don't want to do to the media what the gop did. We just want balance fairness and balance. I say bring back the fairness doctrine. A year after regan got rid of it the scorge of america got on the air, rush limbaugh. Without it regan removing the fairness doctrine their would be no rush limbaugh. I don't see a downside. I'm all for voicing critism and fighting the man. What rush fox cnn and most "news" and propoganda shows do now is not that. Time to take back the media. It's not a freedom of speech issue. how many liberals have been banned for saying 9/11 was an inside job, and why did the gop say they must be banned? think long and hard. The gop must play by the rules they inforce on others. The laws and rules must apply to all
There are 200 million eligible voters in the United States and out of that number 70 million won't vote.
The overall viewership of the Convention/s on the 3 network and 3 cable TV channels will be on the altogether about 25 million viewers, tops.
That's about 20% of the 130 million who will vote in November.
So 4 out of 5 people who can vote in November, 80% of American voters, aren't watching any of this.
Think they might know something we don't?
Oh, and I see that Amy Holmes went to Princeton after Michelle Obama did, I guess the campus branch of the Young Republicans might have shifted their attitude by the time Amy got there.
Weren't Amy Holmes and Bill Maher dating for a while or are they still going out?
~Nyc
I'm sure the news outlets will hear your complaints and fix the problem by next week so there is no counterpoint to their convention.
What could make them think that way? What could make them act that way?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKdsz60QqRQ
Why would you want to waste a single minute of your life watching cable news?
I mean unless you tune in to catch the weather. Or something.
After Hillary's speech, CNN had a 3-person panel comment. A democrat, a republican, and an "independent". The democrat liked it. The republican didn't. And surprise, surprise, the "independent" didn't like it either. The caption at the bottom of the screen revealed that the "independent" was a former Guiliani staffer. No joke.
For the past two nights Larry King Live has allowed the Republikaners a forum to refute, dispute and generally piss all over every point of the conventioneer's speeches. Sickening.
Wow Average Guy hit the freakin' nail right on the got'dam head. That post, 68, was it?.... almost poetic in it's depth and succintness. Cool.
Patty @ 85:
But then you're missing the Chris Matthews wind tossed Hair Art Experience
" jitter Says: Why would you want to waste a single minute of your life watching cable news?
I mean unless you tune in to catch the weather. Or something.
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It's not for us. people on this site know what time it is. They knwo their politics. It's the old out of touch people. they beleive it. They think cnn is a liberal news station, for pete's sake. They beleive what they are told. They are in a changing world. Everything is new and changing around them. the gop is fighting for 1955, or 45. The fight is not for us. It's for those who cannot use the internet, or don't have it. It's for those who only trust certain sources. We must help them. We must cut the chains of the elderly. We all rise or fail together. We must bring the old out of touch with us in this movement. We can cut their chains. We have that power. whether they leave the cave or not is on them. We must give them the chance to join reality.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_cave
cg @ 63:
But they are the core of the Democratic Party ..
Each of them testifies to the "American Dream" which IS the difference between the Democrats & the Republicans.
So by leaving them out, the MSM is doing more harm to the Democratic message than they can possibly do by tearing down the major speeches.
Apparently MSM is also leaving out some of the "name" speeches as well - Montana Gov Schweitzer, Massachusetts Gov Patrick. They gave powerful speeches.
Why do people insisit in refering to people who are just telling the truth as Liberals?
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Beacause the can't refer to a republican that tells the truth.
Why is it that on the Cspan feed, I can't hear the crowd's noise?
Oh that's right, Fox is controlling the feed, aren't they? Doesn't that include the audio?
Fritz @ 11:
I agree. I have zero interest in listening to ANY of those asshats comment about ANYTHING.
CSPAN is the only way to go with events like these. Actually, at this point, the only time I turn the damn TV on is to watch a hot Judiciary Committee grilling (Ha!!) on CSPAN or to pop some classic Netflix movie in for a little "me time".
TV is generally a total waste of time. At least by participating in discussions on Crooks and Liars I feel like I'm living, not just sitting in front of the boob tube allowing my mind to be filled with bullshit!
I've been watching on C-SPAN this week. No commentary whatsoever until after the convention adjourns for the night, and what C-SPAN gives you for reaction is driven entirely by fellow viewers.
I appreciate the efforts of bloggers like you who monitor the increasingly deteriorating network coverage so that I don't have to.
LibertyLover @ 103:
Faux had Monday's feed, iirc, but different nights go to different networks. So I don't think it's Faux night tonight.
Due to circumvention of campaign finance rules as well as simply poor campaign finance rules, as well as a complete lack of oversight, corporate control of D.C. is simply unlimited.
Due to the relaxation of or complete neglect of antimonopoly laws and regulations, corporations can include a defense contractor plus TV, radio, and cable media, all under the direction of a single board. If we were to include Congress as another of those subsidiaries, we have corporate control of the American Empire.
Mainstream Media is simply the corporate communications or propaganda arm of the giant companies.
The Republican Party, and by extension Congress, the White House, and parts of the Democratic party, are merely the political arm of the giant companies.
So why does the media work to thwart the will of the people and in this case the Democratic Party? Because that is the job of the propaganda arm of the giant companies.
Why do the networks let the media get away with this? Because the job of the networks is to convey the corporate message, so the networks are doing what they are supposed to do.
The government and media have been taken over by the giant corporations. Only a grassroots effort to elect Representatives committed to Campaign Finance Reform can hope to excise the corporations from our government, and pass anti-trust laws to break up the media conglomerates. If we do not accomplish this goal, democracy in America will be completely dead.
Why doesn't your hotel get MSNBC?
Does Rupert MurDICK own it or something?
C-SPAN is the only way for actual coverage, but msnbc is good when i want to check out the talking heads, especially KO and Rachel Maddow. PBS is reasonable, selected blogs, including this one, fantastic, the big tent (where i wish i could be) even better. MSM propaganda will give you a headache, switch it off.
I get the impression that there are people who honestly thought the conventions would be covered without bias.
Because the reich wing corporate media cover everything else with such care, thought, balance and insight?
REAL good question...I lived just outside of Denver for a long time and it seems even the "local" television stations are doing the same this..I had a running dialogue with Lance Hernandez from the local ABC affiliate today (KMGH) regarding a story they ran this morning about the BS press conference by Mitt-o-Romney.
The story talked about Mitto's standard Chenney-based talking points but then went into a couple of issues that really spun me out of control....
The story talked about Rep. Rick Kantor COMPLETE misrepresentation of the FACTS versus the CRAP being stirred up about off-shore drilling...When I sent them data from the Dept of Interior and data from the NRDC regarding the MYTH of off-shore drilling's impact on supply and pricing the stations position was to COMPLETELY ignore the facts.
They also spoke about Obama's voting record on helping the middle class and working families and local communities out of their struggle. I presented FACTS about McCain being ABSENT COMPLETELY from ANY votes regarding ANYTHING for the last six months..Once again, same response..
Proving again, that the media is not interested in finding out the FACTS - they're too lazy. They only take what's feed to them by the smear machine and go home...scary...
I never watch the msm not since 2003, they are paid liars and not one of them has the conviction behind their words. Just money! These people will say whatever their masters demand to keep their high paying jobs. It has been happening for a long time and for a while there were a few people that would not lie for a dollar. But not now all of the msm with the exception of Hellen Thomas, are paid liars nothing more and no one should ever listen to anything of them has to say ever!
Ham @ 73:
Thank you very much for saying it like it really is.
we knew this was the plan all along.
Seriously folks. The only way to shut these pundits up is to quit watching and force the sponsors to make the move. TeeVee has to go. So turn that sh*t off!! I mean - you know - you tune to O'Really or any of the other bloviating gasbags and are subjected to nothing but spin, BS, hate, ignorance and lies. They offer nothing but this!! These pundits are not relevant and have nothing add to the intellectual landscape of this world. Shut them off - shut them down! Send these clowns packin'!!!!
Clemdog @ 115:
Been doin' that for years. Their sponsors sure aren't reaching me. Guess they don't give a shit.
They do it because it makes them money. Like the hope of getting a Clinton/Obama fight.
What I don't understand is Geraldine Ferraro going on Fox and bashing the Democratic Party time after time. To me she's not much better than Joe.
http://twitpic.com/99il
TV and print exercise their GOP favoritism by omitting and ignoring pertinent and important stories. the talk radio monopoly, with its coordinated repetition to 60MIL is unchallenged, uncorrected, and usually unnoticed by those it incessantly attacks. since reagan killed the Fairness Doctrine the GOP has used talk radio to do the groundwork of their media manipulation with intimidation and by laundering and prechewing and then feeding its propaganda to the traditional media.
by the time the lazy talking heads read the talking points they know they have already been pounded into tens of millions of earholes across america. there is no contest. and progressives analyze their losses and mend their broken bones and mistakenly move to the right because listening to talk radio gives them a headache and they can't even see rove standing over them with his invisible talk radio 2x4.
Hey, Wolf Blitzer liked tonight's music.
Fredom of the press! Why does that scare you? Don't you want to cover and report on the Republican Convention. You do the very same thing you are complaining about, on this site every day. People are smart enough to see thru the spin on either side and make a choice.
And the MSM wonders why it is one of the least-liked and least trusted institutions in America (I think only the HMOs are lower and lawyers are higher).
Amy Holmes and the GOP jabronies are why.
I stopped watcing CNN and have been watching MSNBC. Although they have Buchanan's sorry as, Olbermann and Maddow are giving proper perspective. Even Carville got on my nerves, dissing the Dems. on Monday for not being more rabid. Everytime they'd go to him, that's all he had to say. He said absolutely nothing constructive, he just whined.
We're watching the convention here on PBS, and formulating our own opinion on the proceedings. It's so nauseating to see the outtakes on The Daily Show.
Vermin @ 2:
Exactly!!
"The Power Is In Our Hands"!
Andy K Jong Il @ 107:
Why do you people even continue to turn your remotes to that channel?
I stopped in 2000 and have not watched that station NOT ONE MINUTE!
I will not contribute to thier ratings at all!
I let C&L watch so I don't have to!
MN USA @ 121:
Wolf Blitzer reminds me more and more of Tom Tomorrow's Blinky the Very Nice Dog.
Abbybwood @ 114:
Here here. Fortunately, people like Dennis won't be intimidated by the media flying monkeys.
stress free viewing CSPAN.
99% of MSM talking heads are morons of repubic mouth pieces, as if there was a difference.
ham @73
"The Carlyle Group is an investment firm with ownership in multiple industries, but some of their defense contracts have been widely criticized. Former employees of the Carlyle Group include George W. Bush, George H.W. Bush, and James Baker."
let us not forget that the current president of Afghanistan was also a board member.
I have been utterly disgusted with the convention coverage. I have chosen to watch PBS and CSPAN so that I can actually listen to all the speeches and decide on their quality and decisiveness. There were so many really good speeches. I would switch over to CNN, or for an occasional emetic, faux news and they were so blatantly pathetic. They chose the speeches the masses got to hear and prattled on with their inanities while many wonderful speeches were heard only by the choir. CNN was still critiqueing Hillary's speech seemingly hours after the fact while those watching the dildos on CNN missed hard hitting, compelling speeches by Kucinich, Sebelius, Pena, Napolitano and more. They missed the military speakers speaking against the "commander-in-briefs" and his pathetic policies. Meanwhile, the bobble heads continued to spout their canned media produced memes, such as "when are the dems going after McCain", while the speeches presented during their bullshit spewing were doing exactly that. UTTERLY PATHETIC.
Ham@73:
"....sometimes I feel like both parties are taking part in a “Good-cop / Bad-Cop” game so that they can accomplish what they want to do. One party takes it too far and the people protest, then the next party takes over and makes everyone believe they are doing their best to reverse the attrocities of the former party."
A lot of people felt this way in 2000, and some voted for Nader instead. Unfortunately that helped tip the election (though Gore actually won) and the democrats were angry at those who left the party.
I agree with what you say in your comment, but I sure as hell don't want to see a republican in the whitehouse again.
Curt @ 8:
Is she really saying the "Democrat party?" That pisses me off to no end. She's either listening too much to limpballs, or she is just stupid. I tend to believe both.
I'll have to watch for her saying that again and really let CNN have it.
Agreed. I watched the coverage after HRC speech and it was glowing they said it was the speech of her life. Less then 7 hours later they were ripping the speech saying she didn't go far enough to endorse Obama’s readiness. In those 7 hours the MSM McCain heads got their spin, talking points and narrative from McCain and the repubs
I wonder as well if the Dems will get equal time next week. I am not sure the Dems are smart enough to put their heavy hitters there for rebuttal.
It rots my gut how every frame and every question is asked through the lense of repubs. Every negative poll result for Obama, every up made controversy gets blown up but never heard the voting blocks where Obama is slicing McCain’s face off. Did you hear any negative poll results from McCain, like over 60% of the country thinks McCain is another four years of Bush
Of course not we had the sequel Bill and Hill part 2. The MSM got the drama they needed and craved. There was more rumor and gossip by the msm then in a yearlong subscription to People magazine
Get ready for the one-two punch. After making the convention coverage basically unwatchable by its core audience (except on PBS, CSPAN) the major networks will spend the next two weeks talking about how the ratings weren't good enough and then plan to cut back their coverage.
One thing that really upset me is the "coverage" of Steven Spielberg's military video tribute. The coverage was, except for CNN, non-existant. Neither Fox nor MSNBC nor NBC nor CBS (only 4 that I checked, in addition to CNN) had coverage of the video.
I think that video might have helped the Democrats and their image with the military....although Beau Biden helped tonight.....but I can just imagine the repugs next week having much video of McSame and his military service.
I don't think it's a matter of allowing it to happen. This isn't some poorly thought out move by the networks or ill-informed decision. The networks know who they're booking and where they will steer things. No, they don't allow it to happen, they want it to happen. They make it happen. There is nothing objective about it; CNN is merely FOX Lite. I'm not sure MSNBC is much better. I was watching Brian Williams interview Rudy 911 today and it was pure spin. Rudy told one bold-face lie after another and Williams never challenged him on a single one of them. One could make the case that the networks are merely trying to make it a closer race but I think that myth will be exploded at the GOP convention. They're going to work their asses off portraying McCain as the greatest hero America ever had and the doctrine of the POW get-out-of-jail-free card is going to be firmly established.
Once again I thank you for letting me know how bad it is on TV these days.
You see, I am a true patriot. I know who the enemy is. Big Media is the ENEMY.
And I do not FUND THE ENEMY. I do not give them a pile of my hard earned cash every month to listen to their garbage, or be incensed by their PROPAGANDA.
JUST IMAGINE HOW FAST THEY WOULD CHANGE THEIR TUNE IF EVERYONE IN AMERICA WHO WANTED TO BE A PATRIOT AND REALLY STAND FOR SOMETHING CANCELED THEIR PAY TV.
IMAGINE IF WE QUIT FUNDING THE ENEMY AND FUNDED OURSELVES INSTEAD.
You should see my fine library I have bought with the money I don't give to PAY TV.
And I sleep well at night knowing I don't support the enemy.
I only carry a cell phone for travel in my car too. And it's from a company that resells unused minutes at a discount with no contract.
My total bill for internet, cell, and staying in touch every month is $54. I have a very fast cable connection on the net.
So follow my lead. Quit your bitching. Quit your TV. You can catch up on YouTube for free.
These are not pundits ( look up the word ) , political hacks is what they are and they have an agenda . Instead of Walter Cronkite and honest , respectable and honorable men like him we now have these assholes .
I didnt want all the extra commentary so I've been watching everything on C-span. Commerical and Ad-free. Bloggers might want to encourage your readers to do the same, or watch on line..
MSNBC was pure evil (except for 2 awesome people) in their "The Place for Politics" coverage of the Democratic convention. Some evil is blatant, some subtle. I'll start with night 3 (tonight) and then go back. First off, everyone in America must know that Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow ARE THE ONLY FANTASTIC CREDIBLE VOICES OF TRUTH IN AMERICAN PRIMETIME TV NEWS. There are ZERO democratic voices on ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, CNBC, OR FAUXNEWS. Eugene Robinson is good, too, but more of a guest of the show. RACHEL MADDOW SHOW WILL FOLLOW KEITH'S BEGINNING 9-8-08.
EVERYONE ELSE on MSNBC is either a paid right wing republican operative and/or just doing exactly what they are told by their producers, or just wants a continuation of easy money gravy train . . . spewing their non-investigative propaganda, their Republican Party talking points . . . fed to them every morning from the Republican National Headquarters. They get the info from all the Right Wing "Think" Tanks who formulate their evil strategies 24/7 and then pass them off to Party Headquarters (the Gestapo).
Chris Matthews fools a lot of people into thinking he is balanced. HE IS NOT. 90% republican bias is not balance. Go to this page here and click on a name for ACTUAL right wing QUOTES by some of these people.
http://mediamatters.org/issues_topics/media_personalities
Chris Matthews, Pat Buchanan, Andrea Mitchell, Anne Curie, David Gregory, Chuck Todd, Brian Williams, Tom Brokaw, Norah O'Donnell, Jake Russert, Joe Scarborough, etc.). Both visually and verbally the commentators, and their network producers, consciously and carefully did all they could to diminish the Democratic Convention message, excitement and aesthetics. Their sole purpose in life for this next week and for the next couple of months will be to take down the Democratic highs and pump up the republican lows. Every question to an exuberant attendee had been about doubts, fears, questions, lack of unity, party in-fighting, etc. For the last three nights all these assholes kept asking where is the "red meat" in these speeches. Guess what???? John Kerry gave the most "red meat" attacks ever charged . . . and dealt head on with all the Obama smear attacks that ultimately brought him down four years ago. It was the most "Obama is a true american patriot" speech of the night. PBS played it in its entirety. What did MSNBC do? They only played a very small center portion of his speech AND PLAYED THE MSNBC JINGLE MUSIC LOUDLY (during the fucking speech) ON PURPOSE SO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE COULD NOT HEAR WHAT HE WAS SAYING VERY WELL. I was screaming!!!!!!!!! It was a cover-up in the truest and most obvious sense of the word. At around 9:30PST (when everyone on the East Coast was already in bed) MSNBC replayed that SMALL portion of the speech again. This time it was without the music and they MADE SURE not to show a visual of Obama's great uncle (PBS DID), a WWII war hero who helped liberate concentration camps in Nazi Germany. Guess why MSNBC didn't show him??? Because it was a startling image. HE IS WHITE and MSNBC (all the Right Wing media actually) would rather not remind America that Obama is 1/2 white and raised by a white mother. As we get closer to November (and the republicans get more desperate), this evil scourge that is the right wing will do their best to convince old and/or dumb voters that an Obama presidency would turn America into a vast hip-hop ghetto, where everybody wants free food stamps. We must go on the offense by calling out the media for using illegal propaganda. Call your TV and Radio stations. Call your newpapers and speak out against the obvious and subtle tricks they play. Go to mediamatters.org to learn more. By the way, did you notice all the camera shots during interviews, showcasing empty obstructed view rear stage seats instead of showing the vast happy and excited crowd? The best crowd was outside. Booing Buchanan and Matthew's for their invented republican speculation and cheering Keith and Rachel for just telling the truth.
I'm sorry if I offended anyone with my anger and passion.
This is what happens to a political junkie when he/she watches much of the 24 hour news cycle and whom sees the starling patterns and hears the same words and phrases being spoken by all the pundits. It becomes quite obvious and apparent that they are all fed the same script each morning and it is Orwellian to say the least.
There's an old joke about a guy saving a 'talking' rattlesnake from freezing - against his better judgment - but agrees after being convinced by the snake that he would forever be grateful...well as soon as the snake thawed out he crawled over and bit the guy that saved him...when said guy exclaimed, 'Dammit, you bit me, and after I saved your life'...the snake replied, 'What'd you expect, you knew I was a fucking snake.'
Well, the moral of story is that's what the hell you get when you watch FauxNews...and don't even get me started with the whores at CNN. That bunch should just shut down.
At least with MSNBC's coverage, you know Kieth and Rachel are not gonna let the 'bullshit' get by without a challenge.
I mean seriously. Waaaaah! The mean Republicans are ruining our convention. Are you kidding me?!?! Grow a set. Is it really the Republicans fault that they're controlling the conversation? As insufferable as most of these people are, they're doing a masterful job. And they're doing it on Democratic turf!!! All you cry babies ought to take a page out of their media playbook. Or Democrats are going to continue to play the victim instead of leading the country in the right direction.
On MSNBC's web page at the moment:
Wow, apparently Joe Biden turned on his own friend (or was Biden lying about them being friends, as hinted by the quotes around the word friend?). Poor John McCain, he reaches across the aisle and these people stab him in the back. Thanks, MSNBC, for objectively reporting these events.
General Jack D. Ripper @ 137:
And that was why most of the networks did not cover the Spielberg video because it does not play into their narrative of the "the anti-military democrats" meme that they have been playing now for years in the main stream press...
CNN's coverage turned anti-Obama since Super Tuesday when Obama took the lead over Hillary. His coverage has been 90% negative on CNN ever since. MSNBC, in my opinion, is the only cable news network that at least tries to be fair in it's coverage of Obama.
Has anyone else noticed also that all of the democrats that CNN has on were all Clinton supporters ore former Clinton administration folks (Lanny Davis, Carville, Begala, Rosen et al). Very rarely do they have a democrat on that was an Obama supporter originally. Hence, you wound up with a lot of negative criticism of Obama not only from repubs but the dems (Carville and Begala).
I also noticed tonight that Anderson Cooper mentioned on air about being inundated with emails about how negative CNN's coverage has been of the convention this week...
CNN is "Fox II". Why watch an imitator when you can watch the original? CNN's ratings from 8-11 PM are horrible now. FOX literally has double the amount of viewers that CNN has for those time periods. CNN is on a sinking ship...
it is corp fascism the tv channels want a repub in the white house
give them credit they are just protecting their assets
that is what corps do make profits and protect their assets
americans wanted the trickle down theory economics now they have it
even clinton gave in to them
latest news FDIC will borrow money from treasury who will borrow money from china to keep capitalism afloat
then americans brag how great their capitalism is
paradigms again we hang on to them even as they are failing us
universal law demands that capitalism self destruct
few will understand above statement
we are living thru that self destruction now
and all we can do is blame the politicans
and never look at the system that is causing the behaviour and failure
Pari @ 3:
Another very good way to watch if you are interested in the convention vs.
the egos of talking heads...C-Span...
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