Biden on the RNC: "What do you talk about when you can't explain the last eight years of failure?"
By SilentPatriot Thursday Sep 04, 2008 5:01pm
Biden gave a barnburner of a speech today in Langhorne, Pennsylvania, where he responded to some of the attacks lobbed at the Republican Convention. It just might have been more effective than his actual convention speech.
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"It's not merely a lost job, it's a lost sense of identity. I don't think my Republican friends -- and this is not your father's Republican party, by the way. So folks, when I listen to the parts of the Republican convention I can hear...it's not what I heard, it's what I didn't hear. The silence of the Republican party was deafening. It was deafening on jobs, on health care, on the environment, on all the things that matter to the people in the neighborhood's I grew up in. Deafening! Their America is not the America I live in. They see something different than I see.
"Rick Davis, John's campaign manager, said 'this election is not about issues.' Everything I saw at the convention demonstrated that.
"What do you talk about about when you have nothing to say? What do you talk about when you can't explain the last eight years of failure?"
This is the most effective I have ever heard Biden speak. All that he and Obama have to do from now until November 4 is remind people that the only thing John Bush's Republican Party has to offer is four more years of the same old irresponsible economic policies. If you like today's economy, vote McCain. If not, vote Obama. It's that simple. Hell, not even McCain's own surrogates can distinguish him from Bush.
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Go Joe!
All they talk about now is the three G's and war.
McCain and Palin are history.
Here's something Biden doesn't tell you:
On September 10, 2001, Donald Rumsfeld admitted over $2 TRILLION dollars of Pentagon money was missing and could not be traced.
The next day, something hit the part of the Pentagon that had the records and computers relating to that money.
And then, all inquiry into the $2+TRILLION vanished.
Is GWB a criminal?
Is his father a criminal?
Are Cheney and Rumsfield criminals?
Well, answer yourself. And decide what the fuck to do.
Impressive, and quite damning. I hope this gets lots of play in the media.
Take it to 'em Joltin' Joe. We've got us a chess game here kids. Finally a couple of democrats that aren't getting sucked into playing the game on the repukes' terms. If it weren't so freakin' serious and the stakes so incredibly high this would be a hoot to just sit back with a beer and watch from the sidelines. Can't afford that, we've all got to step up and do our part. Just love this line:
"Ordinary people doing extraordinary things."
Step up my brothers and sisters, step up. We've all got work to do.
Now THAT'S what I want to hear! That was great ... wish I had been there. Tell the truth on' em, Joe!
now that's what the fuck I'm talkin' about...
"it's the economy, stupid!"
Is anyone able to find the ebay listing for the Alaskan Westwind II plane? I can't, but should it still be available in "completed auctions" with a "item did not sell" flag.
FG @ 5:
Don't fool yourself, the media will ignore this for as long as they can until it's so out in the open they can't suppress it anymore.
But it's going to take all of us talking to the uninformed people and getting them to understand so that when the media catches up to reality it won't catch them by surprise
"It's not your father's Republican Party."
Nor your grandfather's. Ask Susan Eisenhauer.
The end of the speech,"eight years of failure", sums it up for me.
Noah @ 3:
They gave McCain AZ!? He isn't well liked in his home state anymore.
That is what i love about Biden, the guy speaks from the heart and doesn't sugercoat. He may step on a few toes now and then, but at least he has passion for what believes!
Keep it going Joe!
VietVet8666 @ 4:
CMINCA @ 12:
this isn't our great grand fathers Republican party either, just ask Lincoln!
President Clinton said it best (and it came from Carville) ... it's the economy, stupid. Today is no different than 1992. Someone needs to dust off the old sign from then candidate Clinton's campaign headquarters.
Change vs. more of the same
the economy, stupid
don't forget health care.
16 years later, it's still as fresh as it was then.
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... But will the Dem's hold them accountable for those failures? For those Constitutional violations? For those war crimes?
Biden throws a good uppercut... NO?
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I will be voting Obama/Biden on Nov. 4......BUT, the pessimist in me thinks the Repugnants are going to eek out a win :-( Oh the horror, I'll need therapy to get over this one.
I read today that 39 million viewers watched McCain's RNC speech......WHY?!?!?!
Speaking of inept ReTHUGlican "government" ..
(And bear in mind McCain's proposed "gas tax holiday" and a collapsed bridge in Minnesota.)
LA Times: With highway money running out, President Bush pulls a U-turn
FG @ 5:
That was the funniest thing I read all day. They are all ready spinning Biden is a whiner.
Very solid. This is why Biden was a good choice and is a great asset to Obama. He connects better with the middle and working classes better than Palin because he connects on day to day issues, on how life is led every day. Palin connects only with some that share her taste for vicious political discourse or her hard right-wing social values.
The Republicans have gone to the old play book in this election. Stir up the rapid base, tear down your opponent and make the race about biography and 'character.' Now is the time for Obama and Democrats to prove they have learned something from the past two elections. Time to prove that the Repugnicans' vacuous Rovian tactics can be defeated.
Alerta alerta @ 13:
THAT was the zinger!!!
2 things about Joe Biden:
1. I now know where those "long-winded" criticisms are coming from. The man rambles a lot, and takes longer than needed to make his point.
2. More importantly, he sounds like a man who "gets it". He sounds like somebody who has not only listened to the public and the needs that haven't been met, but lived it. When he talks about health care and jobs, it's not his speech that sells his positions, but his empathy.
Dahgrostab'ph-r-i @ 17:
I wish C&L would play the clip from the Colbert Report (2 days ago, I think, after Lyin' Palin's speech), when Susan Eisenhower was on his show, telling everyone how she quit the party. I know they've reported on it, but the visual is great.
Key parts of this speech should be put on a loop and run non-stop for the next 60 days. I said it before here that the only winning strategy will be to run mean and hard against the Republican Party, and not against McCain, and especially not against Palin.
Ladybug51105 @ 20:
They dropped the remote and couldn't reach it???
James @ 23:
Raise your hand if you still have doubts about Biden in the VP debates. Who's the pitbull?
Is McCain lying, demented, or simply STUPID?
What does it say about Mr. McCain that he can go off today proudly, laughingly spouting the applause line Palin AK jet eBay thing, when it is so easy to debunk (MSNBC just did so on the air - David Gregory "Race for the White House" show)? It [1] was documentably NOT sold on eBay, and [2] it was subsequently sold at a loss. Either he’s got early dementia, or he puts winning before country.
BTW, also, debunking the “Surge Has Worked” canard:
http://bgladd.blogspot.com/2008/09/surge.html
Go get'em, Joe! And it doesn't matter whether it gets "good play in the media." Obama and Biden are bypassing the media in much of this campaign because they know it is not their friend. Cut out the middle man and go straight to the folks you need to reach.
Ladybug51105 @ 20:
So that they can unequivocally say, with authority, that he's full of shit and he has no platform. 39 million viewers gave him a chance to prove himself, and he failed.
Move on at 16
Pretend you're Teddy Kennedy.
You've been knocked on the head.
Mary Jo is dead.
You're told: You can stay in the senate. Keep your mouth shut, and all will be OK. If you don't play ball, we can get your kids. Get the message?
Yeah. He gets the message. He's a pol. He understands the assassinations.
Let the mudslinging begin! (Best with sound on.)
Marvin @ 28:
Nothing good on after football.
They won't be hiding THIS guy from the media!
“What do you talk about about when you have nothing to say?"
...um... My friends, "Did you know I was a POW?" (Show "terrorist" video here.)
VietVet8666 @ 4:
It does make you wonder why the accounting wing of the Pentagon investigating the disappearance of all that money would just happen to be hit on that day. It's almost like the terrorists helped Rumsfeld. What you don't know won't hurt you.
Marvin @ 28:
I think that it might have been PoP who said, "Everybody watches a train wreck."
Hurray for Joe! Call them at every turn until they don't have a foot to stand on! No More Lies! It's time to pay the piper for the Repukes!!!
An aside does anybody know? Do Biden and Palin debate with each other during the next months leading to the election? I think that would be a great match to watch.
When Obama and McSame debate I do not see the Repukes having any track record to stand on but bankruptcy, death and destruction over the last eight years.
The Biden/Palin debate should be interesting.
Edwin Hussein @ 37:
RFLMAO!
The VP debates are going to be an embarrassment. It's going to be as if an NBA player showed up at your local Junior High School for a little '1-on-1'. 'Unfair' is an understatement, and words like 'outmatched' just sound sarcastic... I can't wait.
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That should have been Biden's Primary speech.
I want to know how Obama/Biden are gonna follow the Rule of Law and not their Rule of Men.
I want to know how Obama/Biden are gonna hold lawless corrupt individuals of the Administration accountable.
I want to know how Obama/Biden are gonna restore America's standing as being credible to Human Rights around the world
I want to know how Obama/Biden are gonna repeal FISA immunity.
I want to know how Obama/Biden are gonna repeal the Patriot Act.
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SFnomad @ 18:
it's the economy AGAIN stupid........no doubt....the challenge is nobody has good answers. why? it's global
some of this we can't control. the bush administration tries to patch a barely floating boat with rescue checks
that are backed with borrowed money.
now the crude prices are going down due to the dollar
getting alittle elevation and hedge funds are selling off
and NO has happened. mccain has NO policy. unemployment numbers came out not good and they would have been worse if it wasn't for government jobs.what gets me is that bush administration is trying NOT to have RECESSION be part of the bush legacy.
I only wish he had touched on the utter contempt the Republicans displayed for "community organizers", all those people who work to improve their local communities. That one will play well everywhere.
I've really grown to like the senator from Delaware.
Keep hammering at the Repugs, Mr. Biden.
You're speaking the unvarnished, undeniable truth.
39 million viewers watched MCCain's speech. So? Half of them were Democrats doing their homework to be prepared for what is coming. Don't worry about the numbers.
Yum, another real satisfying cup of Joe.
I loved that part about the rich kids that make fun of the poor kids clothes. What a great way to respond to Cindy's $300,000 outfit.
I love his analysis, but Obama and Biden need to articulate this into something that the average joe can understand clearly and blanket the airways. I hope we are not seeing another John Kerry, a brilliant man but unable to connect.
harley @ 22:
Why, because he sounds angry? Right, cuz it's not like America has anything to be angry about. I'm thinking it'll take 24-48 hours for the Obama-Biden team to shit on this criticism.
Edwin Hussein @ 37:
And when that runs out it's "9/11, 9/11, September 11th, 9/11 . . . ."
That was amazing... Brought tears to my eyes. Biden was not faking it. He's fired up. Also, it's interesting how Biden has changed. As a presidential candidate himself, he could not articulate a compelling sense of purpose. Working with Obama, Biden has become a powerful force (another example of Obama's leadership.)
Ladybug51105 @ 20:
I watched.
Because we have to make certain these guys don't win.
It's a big mistake not to take the opposition seriously, not to study their every move.
Udon Nomee @ 43:
If it were a debate I'd agree. But, sadly it is just a TV show. Biden will be walking into a pit of vipers.
Thanks for the Clip. The Networks just tease with this while they were falling all over themselve covering the PTA Lady
cg @ 52:
Limpbaa was going on and on and on that this is America you pull yourself up by your bootstraps and don't run to the government when things get bad. The economy is what you make it to be, this is the land of opportunity. Insanity picked up on the same mantra.
MountainMan23 @ 21:
i heard about this i don't all the angles that mccain could have but he should be used against mccain's tax
gas holiday.....this is what obama said that it would hurt the transportation dept. they may try to say people aren't driving because of inability to drill off shore
meaning just allowing the ability would reduce crude future prices i don't buy it never wold have been in time. the (R) are wrong here and it should be brought up.
Biden teaches law (read his bio) and Palin picks the kids up from hockey. Looking forward to the debates.
CMINCA @ 53:
9-11-1973 The Nixon Administration has the CIA topple the Allende Government in Chile. Allende, elected by the people, is killed.
kscitydude @ 2:
Actually this time I think it was the three P's and war.
Palin
Petroleum
POW
Marvin @ 28:
they couldn't change the channel because the st. paul police had put them in plastic handcuffs?
f the economy,, its again,, about the supreme court.
To be fair to Sarah, she did attend 6 colleges in 6 years. Well, actually, the University of Hawaii doesn't have her enrolled. She claims it was too rainy there. She started out as a business major, but when that proved to be to difficult for her, she changed her major to journalism. What a maroon.
I too can't wait for the debates, especially Biden vs. Caribou Barbie. They have her under wraps - can't handle tough questions. They don't want her to be picked on, poor dear.
innocent bystander @ 63:
ooooh. good one.
This is the outrage that we need desperately. This outrage appeals to millions who are fed up with the disaster that has been the last 8 years. We are all outraged at this Republican administration, and it is refreshing to see someone in the government who feels the same way. This is the kind of speech that we need in order to bring the critical issues back to the forefront of the political discussion. If we don't have this kind of passionate talk, we will only hear more of the "leftist media" and "muslim Obama" idiot speak from the Republican fascists.
damm its like Joe should be running for president... oh wait... he lost too
CMINCA @ 60:
It's an expectations game. Stalin will do better than Bush ever did, and Bush "won" all of those debates. I'm not saying he really won, but the MSM convinced people he did. Even when he drooled on himself.
harley @ 58:
And... errrr... what if the government is responsible for making things so bad? Should we still just work a little harder and ignore their criminal policies?
Or am I using more reason than those two jagoffs deserve?
Oprah Winfrey:
"The item in today's Drudge Report is categorically untrue. There has been absolutely no discussion about having Sarah Palin on my show. At the beginning of this Presidential campaign when I decided that I was going to take my first public stance in support of a candidate, I made the decision not to use my show as a platform for any of the candidates. I agree that Sarah Palin would be a fantastic interview, and I would love to have her on after the campaign is over."
Obama was on her show in January 2005 and October 2006 -- admittedly a long time before he announced his presidential run.
Mature Audience @ 56:
Obama just walked into the cesspool that is the "Spinning Like a Top Zone" and came out smelling like a rose. Don't under estimate these two guys. They're on a mission to save this country from the neocreeps, they're fired up and going at it hard. If we do our part we might just dodge this bullet and pull ourselves away from the abyss but boy is it going to be a close one.
Ladybug51105 @ 20:
Simple.
30 million people fell asleep within the first 17.2 seconds, thus were unable to change the channel .
3 million people watched as part of a drinking game where you take a drink every time McCain stammers, says "My friends", or does that weird "Bob Dole fist thing but without the pen" for emphasis.
2 million watched it on a dare, were pledging a fraternity, or both.
And the rest of the viewers didn't speak English, and thought they were watching the AARP Senior Olympics Award Ceremonies.
It's not perfect, but it is called firing the first shot in this protracted war. Biden has to do more of these speeches and then bridge them into interviews.
We can't let McCain and Palin get any toehold in this country. And we can't let them get popular.
(Palin's 50 % approval rating...meh.)
Equate them both with greed, vice and corruption at every turn of the hat. And soon enough (with what is coming out), instead of a rose, Palin comes off smelling like a "turd-blossom". It's time to put that polar-bear killer and her Bible-toting minions back into the primordial sludge where McCain found them.
Mature Audience @ 70:
Kerry did much better than Bush (remember the mysterious retangular shape under Bush's shirt, remember the slurred speech like he was drugged during the second debate). A lot of good it did him.
I fear this election because of the intellect, attention-span and the memory of the average American.
*Very* nicely done. I'm pleased with how Obama and Biden have responded to the Republican convention. Obama refused to get into the mud, and yet he was able to defend himself in a simple, dignified way: "What's so ridiculous about being a community organizer?" As a person who's lousy at verbal self-defense, I really liked what Biden is doing by pointing out what the Republican candidates *aren't* saying. That's the way to do it without stooping to their level.
I'm so relieved to have candidates this time who can stand up for themselves, that I don't have to be embarrassed about.
Absolutely excellent! The man has OOMPH!
Think I'll watch it a third time.
i wish a hundred million people watched the speech. that way a hundred millon more people will now know what a fucking idiot he is. i didn't watch because i already knew he was a fucking idiot.
Clearly Joe is fired up about the GOP's assertion that they are not to blame for the last eight years. I think he is finding his swagger and this speech came off as powerful and meaningful rather than the shrill sarcasm of Mooseknuckle Palin.
Give 'em hell, Joe! Give 'em hell!
Watch AND donate.
rend @ 64:
for many citizens of conscience it may indeed be about the supreme court and restoring the rule of law . . . it may even be about ending mass murder for profit . . . but for the average american, who is sweating the next mortgage payment and terrified that they are one catastrophic illness away from the streets, and especially for those who can longer afford food or the fuel they need to get to work, it is about the economy
and the beauty of focusing on the economy is that the republicans are proven failures on that score, and they can't use false morality or the fear of terrorism to make us think otherwise
Give'm hell Joe! Focus on the worst presidency in American history; George W. Bush.
Knowing is half the battle.
GO JOE!
Amazing speech. Way to go Joe. Let's hope people can see past Palin's (once again, do an image search on google for Z'Dar) looks and McCain's POW status and vote on issues. BTW, the 9/11 video played at the convention was nothing short of sickening. Let's hope that people can see what it was. Playing politics with the blood of Americans. No Shame McShame.
What do you do???? You shuck and jive and point fingers at your opposition and accuse them of your crimes and mismanagement practices. Throw a little red meat at your troglodyte base in the form of lies and smears against anyone with the temerity to disagree with their fascist ideals... Oh, and try to turn the whole deal into a personality contest or a beauty pagant... Except these goons are offering people with the personality of cardboard cutouts, the depth in intellect of a mud puddle, and the morals of a gangbanger. They kinda got the beauty thing right with their little soccer/hockey mommy vp pic, but then again Mata Hari was suppose to be a looker too... So, yea, that's pretty much the whole deal when ya can't actually run on a record of accomplisement... And lets face it.. What these motherfuckers have 'accomplished' in eight long tiring years isn't anything I'd want to run on either.... Vote accordingly...........JD
rend @ 64:
That's what the Dems campaigned on in '84, in '88, in '00, in '04...now can anybody else tell me what else all of these election years have in common?
CMINCA @ 29:
Damn, Joe is great! I cant wait for the vp debate. I hope he wont be too much of a gentleman and pull his punches. He needs to come out swinging and let the shrill harpy cry sexism all she wants to. You are fighting for our very lives, Joe. Give her hell!
I hope this Joe Biden keeps showing up on the stump. This was so much more inspiring than his convention speech.
VietVet8666 @ 33:
vietvet, I told you YESTERDAY that you need to up your meds for your PTSD. You are talking out of your head. Youre beginning to scare me.....
Biden and Pilin debating... Ought to be no contest... Biden should be able to mop the floor with this lightweight.. I'll be looking forward to seeing this go down. As the ever showy Paris H. would say.... I'll see you at the debates bitches!! JD
The legacy of Dubya and Dead Eye Dick is failure. Catastrophic FAILURE! I predict it will take us 30 years or more to recover, it then. If Sen. Obama is our next President he will face challenges that no President has ever faced. This time recovery is a matter of our long term survival. Without proper energy, infrastructure or environmental policies, we will run out gas, the lights will go out and then we will drown or bake depending your geographic location. Good luck to us all, we will need it.
redcat @ 79:
I agree with the first sentence. Won't happen though. The press is far too "liberal" to let this get out.
Unfortunately, Rick Davis may be right. The stupidity of a large portion of the American people seems to know no limits. The polls show a dead heat,which means that a significant portion of the population doesn't seem to care about any of the issues that Sen. Biden mentioned, despite the fact that many of those people are hurting. Ignorance still abounds. Many people will be eating gravel and living in cardboard boxes before they stop voting for right-wing Republicans.
CNN Poll right now: Which party's convention made the stronger case for why its candidate should be elected to the White House? - Sorry, off subject!
Rosanne @ 91:
I think it may be too many meds. This guy is stuck in the late 60's. When they have no points they regress to a better time in their own mind. I'm just surprised he went back that far. I thought all the Dem bashing was based on Bill Clinton. They're all still jealous that we can get some female tail and not have to resort airport bathroom stalls and young male pages.
He's a perfect candidate for a random shooting at a Democratic headquarters. That's what happens when you go off your Zoloft without doctor supervision.
Ladybug51105 @ 20:
Because they are more afraid than they ever have been in their lives.
The overwhelming white male misogynist and racist evangelical base who makes more than $50,000 annual can smell their world being lost.
To a black man.
Who will empower women's issues, and the black, brown and yellow people along with the masses.
I'm not sayin Obama is gonna make us progressives real happy, but if he wins, the bad guys know it's over and their time has past, like the dinosaurs . . . . N they is gonna get REAL, REAL mean before this is over.
N that's why so many watched . . . it's their last ditch hope to keep things the same way they've been accustomed to . . . likely, some of us (I watched a bit of the speech) also watched, further inflating the numbers. Likely, NONE of them watched Obama's . . .
Now we all need to get out there and make sure anyone we know is registered, and will vote. 6 Degrees of separation will ensure the entire nation is covered!!! *G*
John Bush or George McSame? Hmmmm.....
uh...i cant view the speech
is it down?
CMINCA @ 76:
Bush was less than pathetic during the 04 debates -- I figured at that point Kerry had won the election.
when you have nothing credible in your column of accomplishments, you lie, lie, lie....you snark, use sarcasm and bad acting. Just ask Sarah Palin, she's quite the pro at both the lying and the mean spiritedness. She's a pit viper, not a pit bull. She's the quintessential "barracuda"! Let's tell her that she needs to go back to Alaska and her mooseburgers.
It's safe to say that on the Republican ticket this time, there is no shortage of lies and stupidity - not to mention trivializing the american people. How far has the GOP descended? Palin and McBush will go down in history as a national joke ticket - Malibu Barbie and Viagra John, her beau.
John Stewart is airing clips of Palin's pathetic stab at sarcasm which has backfired in her face. She reminds me of someone speaking at some local toastmasters's and the theme is "comedy". This woman is a total shill. Is she capable of intelligent repartee and is sarcasm and smut all she knows? Now we can add "liar" (at least 3 outright lies we know about and it's only been 7 days). But, of course, we won't be able to get to the bottom of those lies, will we - since Sarah Palin has gone into hiding.
I just love it when Biden gets mad and rips them like that! Give them hell. Go, Joe!
Excellent job, Joe, and the correct focus.
Left blog posters need to realize that attacking or mocking Palin is NOT the way you're going to win this election.
Reminding people of the last eight years and pointing out that McCain and Palin have no plan for the economy or health care to fix it is how you're going to win.
Keep staying focused, Joe; you're doing great.
Alec @ 51:
I believe they are connecting quite nicely. This would be an amazing ad.
Ladybug51105 @ 20:
Many of us were monitoring. It was painful but we need to stay on top of the muck lest you sink into the shit.
VietVet8666 @ 33:
Do you have brain injury from your viet nam experience. I was a corpsmans and you sound like one I would have just lay in the mud to rot!
Somebody should have handed these out (or sold them) to the delegates at the RNC
Republican Hypocrites Playing Cards
trouble is the
Gestaporiot police would have cracked the vendors heads.sophya @ 104:
she still has seven days to go to beat Ealgetons's record.
I wonder how the Repugs are digesting the National Enquirer story about her adultery.
IOKIYAR maybe
chicano2nd @ 109:
no shit! a corpsman ? wich war?
Viet Nam!
chicano2nd @ 113:
and youd leave a man injured on the field? and another nam vet ?
whenever mccain brings up his p.o.w. status, someone should bring up his military records-why are they sealed, and does this violate the public's right to know.i want to know how a pilot(mccain) can have multiple accidents with military aircraft and get (cleared?) to fly again. at some point, it's no longer the plane's fault.
tyree @ 114:
Looking back, yes! Living in this country has hardened me. I wish I could have operated with what I know now. [Deleted. Look at what the Republic party has done to us. Shame on them for dividing vets like this-Sitemonitor]
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Here's the video on Youtube....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZaUDKejZ_g
FUCKING AWESOME
Apologies to Tyree and site monitor. It's not the republicans that have us reacting. For me, I lost site of how much anger can destroy rational discussion. Sorry! The repub convention and the lackeys fired me up to a level I don't need to go.
[Hey buddy. No problem. It's totally understandable. I just hate to see two long time posters we all respect going at it like that-Sitemonitor]
LibertyWatch @ 120:
That's okay buddy I understand and fully comply with your decisions. You all have a tough task. ;-) thanks for the note, I appreciate you kind concern. . .
Marvin @ 28:
I work in a large hospital and I noticed that the television was on in many of the unoccupied rooms.
Some of those that were on were carrying the Republican convention. Sure they were on, but no one was watching.
Many of my friends and acquaintances were watching to see what was being said. It wasn't any indication of support,
rather taking the opportunity to see what kind of BS was being spewed.
Texas Democrat @ 121:
YES! WE CAN DO IT!
rachel has a few points to make on the repug legacy in alaska
these people suck!
Go, Joe.
chicano2nd @ 122:
accepted, were mostly all democrats here , and we all have an oppinion on where we should go with our party. myself i choose no more war !
Oh Billy @ 97:
I was gonna' write somethin' in support of Joe Biden, 'cause I live just outside of Philly and we are well acquainted with him and his passion.
However, I find the comments of Billy and Roseanne rather reprehensible. There are great many people who actually experienced the 60's, the Gulf of Tonkin, the Viet Nam war, the assassinations of JFK, RFK, and MLK (and JFK, Jr.) along with the Ted Kennedy debacle, the Iran hostage situation/October Surprse, and Sept. 11, 2001, and Shock & Awe in Iraq.... among other important occurrences in the past 50 years.
We are well aware of the lies and deceipt that factions in our government are capable of. If you take the time to do some reading and research (which is oh, so much easier today with the Internet) you may also come to doubt any of the lies we've been told about these events.
Some of the people involved in these events are still very much involved in creating the misery in the lives of many of you today: GHW Bush & Son, Rumsfled, Cheney, etc.
I fear, as does the VietVet that not too many Americans really understand the nature and extent of the evil these people have perpetrated upon our nation, but we will all soon know... for sure.
The rational thought process is not at play with the McCain camp. What I see is a campaign that has decided to play with the public sentiment. The method utilized is very common and can be seen in everyday life..."how do you promote your message". By taking away the very source of that information, i.e., Palin, and in doing so, the media has to come to the doorsteps of McCain for forgiveness. They will and when they do, the rules will be laid down and the interview will be smooth.
Just as the person in the office that makes more money than you do, but has no friends to speak of and yet for some reason, the boss goes to them for answers. Its not that they are the professional, they just hoard the information and when the time comes, let just enough out and only to the right person. This is how the game is currently being played and will continue to right until the debate with Biden. It would not be a foregone conclusion to see one or maybe two splinters of information come out just before the debate...I suspect it will revolve around the National Enquirer stories which paint a very mrobid picture of Palin. This would play to the public feeling that Palin is being hounded and being unfairly attacked; to play down the knowledge gap and play up the sexism rap.
Its time for other organizations to take it to Palin and McCain, make them come out but do it smartly. They know the corner they are in and have bet the house the media and others will back down.
Playing the sexism rap; although not factually acurrate, has no true meaning since the MSM has repeated this over and over. One true method of beating it down is to ensure that strong women rights advocates have a backstory in place against this crap. Palin would be reduced to admiting that she is either weak or has truely being targeted...I suspect it is the former. If womens advocate groups move on her now, it paints a far different story than what the McCain camp has. This places the onus on her shoulders and no pitbull will back down, especially if she is strong...no need to admit that what women have fought for means little, which if she keeps hiding she essentially admits without ever speaking a word.
G (ee)
I (can't wait to see)
JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOE (tear Palin a third corn shoot)!!!!!!!!!!!
I was in the crowd today for Biden's speech. He was on fire - very dynamic. We needed that after the bizarre and dishonest convention this week. Joe talked for an hour and really let them have it.
Another really good part of his speech was about economic 'fairness' or the lack thereof, nailing the repubs giving massive tax breaks to the rich while the middle class is having their income eaten away by fuel costs, medical care, etc. He explained that when the middle class goes down, so does the whole country. He gave a great speech overall and as it was in our middle school gym, I had no idea that I was witnessing and event that would go national.
Wow! That was the best speech Biden has given yet! He really spoke for the rest and majority of us.
And, SilentPatriot, I had some trouble downloading the video, where I couldn't stream it or view it on Quicktime. Fortunately, I was able to download it on Real Player. So, please do fix those video links. Thanks!
All in all, I'm so glad that Biden is the democratic VP, particularly since I met him back in Nov. of last year in Delaware for his presidential campaign bid on the day of his birthday and anniversary in the senate. I essentially had lunch and cake with him that day, among other Biden supporters.
Here's CNN's version - It starts a couple minutes earlier in his speech and has a couple zingers, too.
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/09/05/sot.biden.gop.econo...
Joe Biden is just beginning in show us what a great Judgement choice Obama made for this country in his VP choice.
Proof of Obama's judgemnt over McCain's experience judgement?
Is Palin wearing lipstick or is there a pitbull wearing 3 inch heels barking at nothing in the middle of the night keepin you awake?
Man, that's a question Biden ought to ask himself. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. BLAH.
F___ yeah! More please. Thanks Joe.
Yes the economy is important. So is healthcare and many different issues. But, what I want to know is how are Obama and Biden going to distinguish themselves from the GOPers on Constitutional and rule-of-law issues? I want to hear them speak on that specifically, because all other issues are of remote secondary importance by comparison. What is their concrete plan to restore Constitutional protections, civil liberties, Human rights and behavior that is congruent with respect for the rule of law? The continuing silence on these issues leads me to conclude that they think everything is just fine and dandy. I want to know, and I want to know it from their lips, without any equivocations about, "Americans don't want to know about that which is past" rationalizations.
What do you talk about when you have no answers to the mess we are mired in.....God's will, abortion, fear, division, POW experience, 9/11 and the surge. I often think of the group that professes (What would Jesus say) and I think of the passage where (Jesus Wept).
What do you say about the last eight years of failure?
The same thing they have been saying. Lies, spin, the things that the republican party is made of Liars!
Finally, a democrat with balls.
Wow that was powerful!
Too bad he isn't the speaker we might have an impeachment over by now.
Why doesn't C&L use a media player that works on Linux???
Just wanted to add that Biden made a great slam dunk!
Wow. I'm in utter awe. GO JOE!!! And a respectable attack at that! Entirely admirable and at complete opposite ends to the empty vitriol Palin spewed.
twotwentyfour @ 10:
She didn't sell it on Ebay. She listed it, but it ended up being sold by a broker to a businessman. Funny thing is, McCain thinks she sold it on Ebay. He sure knows his VP pick doesn't he?
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/09/sarah_palin_and_...
Dan @ 143:
I use Linux (opensuse 11) and I've never had a problem viewing the videos on this site. Make sure you have mplayer installed with the mplayer mozilla plugin, and select the windows media player link. Also make sure you have all the proper codecs installed (w32codecs-all, etc), and everything should work
Hope it helps
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Biden: “What do you talk about when you can’t explain the last eight years of failure?”
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Um...hey look! It's Amy Winehouse and she's out of rehab!
I'm glad that I donated yesterday. Way to go Joe. I wish you and Barack the best.
This election won't be decided between the Obama/McCain debates, it will be between Biden and Palin. Palin's honeymoon was over the minute she accepted the Republican Vice Presidential nomination and became John McCain's cheerlleader. A very bright woman, but she is no match for Biden when facts are involved. If prayer is believed upon, please pray that Palin is still Governor of Alaska come November, for the good of America.
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