Steinem: Sarah Palin "Shares Nothing But A Chromosome" With Hillary
By Logan Murphy Friday Sep 05, 2008 8:45am
Selecting Sarah Palin, who was touted all summer by Rush Limbaugh, is no way to attract most women, including die-hard Clinton supporters. Palin shares nothing but a chromosome with Clinton. Her down-home, divisive and deceptive speech did nothing to cosmeticize a Republican convention that has more than twice as many male delegates as female, a presidential candidate who is owned and operated by the right wing and a platform that opposes pretty much everything Clinton's candidacy stood for -- and that Barack Obama's still does. To vote in protest for McCain/Palin would be like saying, "Somebody stole my shoes, so I'll amputate my legs."
Palin's value to those patriarchs is clear: She opposes just about every issue that women support by a majority or plurality. She believes that creationism should be taught in public schools but disbelieves global warming; she opposes gun control but supports government control of women's wombs; she opposes stem cell research but approves "abstinence-only" programs, which increase unwanted births, sexually transmitted diseases and abortions; she tried to use taxpayers' millions for a state program to shoot wolves from the air but didn't spend enough money to fix a state school system with the lowest high-school graduation rate in the nation; she runs with a candidate who opposes the Fair Pay Act but supports $500 million in subsidies for a natural gas pipeline across Alaska; she supports drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Reserve, though even McCain has opted for the lesser evil of offshore drilling. She is Phyllis Schlafly, only younger. Read on...
John McCain chose party over country by selecting Palin, a move that eerily reflects George Bush's reckless style of governing. The McCain camp may think they can fool women voters, but Steinem does a fantastic job of shredding the idea that Hillary Clinton supporters would automatically be wooed into voting for a woman who is her polar opposite and unfit to serve. Quite simply put, Palin isn't qualified to carry HRC's briefcase, let alone be considered her political equal.
Lets break this down in the most basic of terms -- Sarah Palin is a Bush Republican -- say it loud and say it often. I grind my teeth every time I hear someone in the corporate media tout Palin as a candidate of change. A change of gender does not equal a change in policy or direction for America. John McCain may consider Palin to be his "political soul mate," but unfortunately for him, her heart belongs to George W. Bush.
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Well said, Ms. Steinem!
First?
“Somebody stole my shoes, so I’ll amputate my legs"
HAHA
Obama/Biden 08!!!!!!!!!!!!
In my opinion, McCain chose an extreme ideology over country in selecting Palin. Palin can't touch Hilliary Clinton's knowledge and ideas on foreign policy, national security, the economy, you name it. Palin is more preacher than a national leader.
Sarah Palin IS George Bush! Here is a quick list of what they share in common:
1) Governors of states that are dependent on the oil industry and have been for 50 years.
2) Believe that they are "on a mission from God"
3) Love Guns
4) Are "folksy" people you might want to have a beer with
5) Want to make abortion totally illegal
6) Adhere absolutely to the neo-con/Conservative agenda
7) Work to punish those they perceive as "disloyal"
8) Like scripted and controlled public appearances; hate open questions and challenges
9) Actually failed in much of their "executive" experience
10) Know that Alaska is close to the Soviet Union
Thank you Ms. Steinem. There's a phrase I'll be using over and over again in conversation.
No comparison.
Clinton= Clinton
Palin= Cheney
That's why those turds like her so much.
Oh, and just for general info, Pakistan elected a new Pres. Bhutto's widower.
I can't wait to hear what Palin's responses are to issues like North Korea, Iran, Iraq, Russia, Aids, global poverty, various treaties, etc. I already have the impression that she will sound just like that Miss Teen South Carolina did except Palin will be much, much worse.
For the love of god, can someone tell these "writers" to stop writing their complaints about Sarah Palin and start going on the tube to get the message out? The people dumb enough to think that Pailin is a great choice for women ARE NOT READERS!!!! Steinem makes a great point, but who is going to see it except intelligent people who are not being fooled. It's the dolts who need to be reached. C'mon!! There is only two months left!!!!
Sorry about this OT link, but I think it's something that is useful against the "Obama has done nothing" argument: Obama's Senate accomplishments can be found here.
I just finished reading this online, myself. Very well said, Ms. Steinem. Definitely encapsulates my sentiments, as well.
As we find out more about Mrs. Palin, it seems as if she is turning out to be more and more like the big "Borrow and Blow" Republican Spenders that have occupied Congress for much of the last 8 years. As vindictive as GW Bush and about as interested in foreign policy as he is as well. Dare I say it? Palin Appears even MORE like Bush than McSame.
Joe O. @ 3:
Can Dana Carvey bring back the "Church Lady" on SNL?
On the back of that t-shirt: NO MCCAIN - NO WAY - NO HOW!
LibertyLover @ 12:
I don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me to see Palin acting like the church lady after a time.
As always, Steinem sees the trees clearly but misses the forest.
It's not just that the R party is controlled by a bunch of rightwing fucks.
Both parties are controlled by major corporations.
In some ways she's worse than GW.
From the Independent, Palin: the real scandal
She's Dick Cheney. Palin is the Oil Princess.
Palin is worse than Phyllis Schlafly. At least you can excuse Phyllis some of her positions because she's an old broad of a different generation and her thinking stopped evolving sometime in the early 60's. There is no excuse for Palins backward ways other than a desire to be willfully ignorant.
You know, if I were Hillary Clinton I would be insulted by this comparison. Clinton wil would make Palin look like a fool and she would do it with style. Palin can not match any woman in Congress in knowledge and experience for that matter. She is out of her league and very soon everyone will know it.
How can a Republican Administration (ideology) help an average citizen in their daily lives? A. Make opportunities for soldiers to be murdered, make opportunities for losing your home and job, reduce the actual income of all middle class and poor citizens, cause the rise in costs of food and fuel, lend help to criminal business so they can steal more from average people, not inforce regulation so consumers and workers are at risk for their lives, not support and take away health care for as many as possible. I can see why Republicans stay in power for so long....they steal elections!
Meanwhile Obama wimps out and gets punked by O'Reilly.
Dunno, man...
sgtmajor @ 4:
I agree with all but the last one. I don't think Shrub could find Russia (or the Soviet Union) on a map.
Sarah Palin= "Down on your Knees" KISS
Are you ready to rock, I'm talking about satisfaction
So let's cut the talk, yeah, and get on with the action
Better make up your mind, girl, 'cause it's now or never
It's getting down to the night, yeah, and I ain't waiting forever
Down on your knees, it's this love in the first degree
Down on your knees, yeah tonight the lovin's on me
Down on your knees, this is love in the first degree
Down on your knees, yeah tonight the lovin's on me
e.c. @ 19:
I believe her ties to the Pentecostal Assemblies of God have shaped her views.
Worth repeating!
sgtmajor @ 4:
And this should be the meme of the week: "A change of gender does not equal a change in policy or direction for America."
A bit shame Hillary Clinton isnt VP candidate. She would completely destroy Palin in the debate. Of course McCain would never have chosen Palin if Clinton were picked VP.
Scott @ 9:
Agreed about the audience that needs to be reached, but unless you own a TV station we can use, well...
galmud @ 28:
True that. We'd be having a different discussion altogether. AND we'd still be listening to the misogynists.
Has anyone read this:
http://thepoliticalcurmudgeon.blogspot.com/2008/09/alaskans-speak-in-fri...
the article claims Palin commented on Obama's win over Clinton with:
"So Sambo beat the bitch!"
sgtmajor @ 4:
May we also add:
11) Were less-than-stellar students
12) Were hell-raisers when young
13) Suddenly "got religion"
14) Came from obscurity to their respective states' governorships
15) Seldom if ever traveled abroad before nomination for national office
There's a column on the Internet with this and more. If I find the link, I will post it.
Has anyone read his already?
http://thepoliticalcurmudgeon.blogspot.com/2008/09/alaskans-speak-in-fri...
the article claims Palin commented to Obama's win over Clinton with:
"So Sambo beat the bitch!"
VietVet8666 Says: @17
Blather.....rinse....repeat.
After all of the shit HRC took, even from some here.
She's light years ahead of this so called reformer. They say they want to change the way Washington works. Hmmmmm? Really?
Where have I heard that before?
Oh, yeah, Denver.
echo @ 32:
Um, Viet Vet is right:
Corporate Contributions Shift to the Left
Some companies see Democrats having more sway in Washington after upcoming elections
read it here
echo @ 32:
He's right.
The difference is , well, someone needs to crack a few history books.
Rinse more often.
Thanks to Sarah, America is waking up [Deleted. You and your ilk are delusional. BTW, you've been robbed of your McPoints.-Sitemonitor]
To the tune of:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSt0NEESrUA
Way up north, (North To Alaska.)
Way up north, (North To Alaska.)
North to Alaska,
They're goin' North, the rush is on.
North to Alaska,
They're goin' North, the rush is on.
Little Sarah left St. Paul in September of aught eight,
With hubby Todd and kids, she returned to her home state.
They crossed the Alaska border and found Wasilla home.
Told by her party's ops, "no, never may you roam."
Way up north, (North To Alaska.)
Way up north, (North To Alaska.)
North to Alaska,
They're goin' North, the rush is on.
North to Alaska,
They're goin' North, the rush is on.
John called to Sarah P. with cell phone in his hand,
Said: "Sarah you're a-talkin' to a worried, worried man.
Can't let you out to wander cross this highly-partisan land,
'Cause you'll rile up the folks who don't want Roe v. Wade banned."
See the Palins retreating,
Moose burgers they're eating.
North to Alaska,
They're goin' North, the rush is on.
North to Alaska,
They're goin' North, the rush is on.
Way up north, (North To Alaska.)
Way up north, (North To Alaska.)
Way up north, (North To Alaska.)
[Deleted-Sitemonitor]
Tom @ 36:
Read this and then we will let you join the discussion.
[Tom has no interest in discussion. He's pontificating to get McPoints for a T Shirt or something-Sitemonitor]
John McCain gives a speech on the campaign trail;
My friends, my dear friends,
Sarah Palin will be an amazing Vice President ! (Audience cheers wildly.....McCain gestures with both arms as if to say 'Calm down please. Let me continue" but he really wants the audience to keep cheering)
My friends, These are hard times for Americans. These are hard times for people in Ohio.
These are hard times for people in Iowa.These are hard times for people in Pennsylvania.These are hard times for people Florida.These are hard times for people in Michigan.These are hard times for people in Kansas. These are hard times for people in Washington State.These are hard times for people in Oregon.These are hard times for people in New Jersey.These are hard times for people in Oklahoma.These are hard times for people in Tennessee.These are hard times for people in Nevada.These are hard times for people in Utah.These are hard times for people in Arizona.These are hard times for people in Idaho.These are hard times for people in Connecticut.These are hard times for people in California.These are hard times for people in Louisiana.These are hard times for people in Alabama.These are hard times for people North and South Dakota.These are hard times for people in Georgia.These are hard times for people everywhere in America. The do-nothing -democrats have enslaved Americans. I was a POW. All the other POWs worshipped me. I was a POW God. I was the Moses of the POWs. I was a celebrity among the POWs. I'm the candidate for change !!!! Together we will make a great America and clean up this horrible mess my opponenets and his democrat friends have made of this great country. FIGHT WITH ME !! (in Iraq) FIGHT WITH ME !! (in Afganistan) FIGHT WITH ME !! (For me... in Iran) FIGHT WITH ME !! (for me...in Syria) FIGHT WITH ME !! (for me...and the New World Order in Pakistan, Lebannon, Russia, Venezuela) FIGHT WITH ME !! (Together we can destroy DESTROY DESTROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOYYYYYYY!!!)
Don Rumsfeld hater @ 40:
Oh, and, uh, you've probably not heard that he was a POW.
Gloria
G L O R I A
She's like 74 already?
ARGHHHHHHH
"Oh, and, uh, you’ve probably not heard that he was a POW."
Rilly? A POW? What war? that's the first i heard about it...
Tom @ 36:
The truth is, for conspiracy theorists, there could be no end to hidden agendas.
McCain's agenda has never been hidden, its four more years of war. Since Obama preaches the only sane alternative to such madness, one must look deeper into his background to see if one can find inconsistencies in his actions and behavior.
Nope, looks pretty clean. Dont see any reason to think he will not do what he says he will do. May not do it when I want it done, or even as it should necessarily be done, but it will be done with reasoned and careful consideration, much like William Jefferson Clinton did it. Works for me.
LOL!
"...Stopped outside Wasilla’s post office on a blustery afternoon this week, Cynthia Shoemaker said “people in Alaska want to give the national media a mouthful” for scrutinizing Palin’s background. “She answers to God, not reporters,” Shoemaker said."
Let Us Prey.
What we should do, is move to Alaska, get the money she' s giving people to live there and give it to Obama.
Ha Ha
Rasmussen: Women shifting to McCain
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday shows Barack Obama attracting 46% of the vote while McCain earns 45%. When “leaners” are included, it’s Obama 49%, McCain 46%. …
As McCain has begun to chip away as Obama’s convention bounce, most of his gains have come among women voters. Obama still leads 51% to 44% among women, but that seven-point edge is just half the fourteen point lead he enjoyed last Tuesday. McCain leads by three among men, little changed in recent days.
Seventy-seven percent (77%) of Obama voters now say they are voting with enthusiasm for their candidate while 17% are primarily voting against the other candidate. For McCain, those numbers are 65% and 28% respectively. Before the Republican convention, just 54% of McCain voters were voting enthusiastically for him rather than simply voting against Obama....
- - - - - - - - -
Ms. Steinem, we know your hopes, but care to share your thoughts on the realities??
Doomsday clock last year: IT IS 5 MINUTES TO MIDNIGHT
2007: The world stands at the brink of a second nuclear age. The United States and Russia remain ready to stage a nuclear attack within minutes, North Korea conducts a nuclear test, and many in the international community worry that Iran plans to acquire the Bomb. Climate change also presents a dire challenge to humanity. Damage to ecosystems is already taking place; flooding, destructive storms, increased drought, and polar ice melt are causing loss of life and property.
I think they need to update this. We have the prospect of a very angry old man with a very itchy trigger finger aided and abetted by a willfully ignorant, self-righteous Armageddonist gaining control of our nuclear arsenal. Both have proven they could give a rat's ass about anyone on the planet, themselves included.
BobbyG @ 45:
It's to late for PrAyInG
Beef Jerky @ 48:
What else is new?
gloria steinem is still angry at the white male establishment, and for good reason...
her problem is, the only people 'entitled' to anger in Murka are put upon white males, or those who speak for--not 'to'--white males threatened with the loss of their patriarchal privileges...
roooth @ 27:
Lipstick on a pig? anyone?
"Read my lipstick" or "read my lips" .... it's still the same failed McBush piggy.
Like I wuz sayin' down below and I'll repreat the most painful lesson of the past 8 years is to face up to how easy it is for a rouge government to take over a lazy, complacent, spoiled, and politically disconnected populace.
How do we KNOW she shares a chromosome with Hillary ?
Ms Moosejaw wont submit a DNA test.
Palin fails GOP focus group. By a wide margin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnV1pS7qVD8
Pay it forward.
Sarah Palin is the female George Bush - McBush/Georgette - more of EXACTLY THE SAME or WORSE............
C. Hussein Jr @ 54:
We need to repeat the propoganda.
Palins DNA is messed up
Palins DNA is messed up
Palins DNA is messed up
Palins DNA is messed up
Maybe in another 50 years people will "get it".
In a political environment where sound bites and aphorisms trump substance and policy discussion, this is probaby as good as it gets. When will the bumper sticker hit the market? You could potentially sell to both the right and the left.
ashes ashes all fall down
Carol @ 56:
Worse. As Bush never reads, he would never try to ban library books.
How bout this MSM?
Palin dominates the PoP In Yo Face Political Landscape while Obama can't even get a 6 second left jab sound bite in.
Bastards
Where was McCain a year ago? broke ---- Nonetheless, he has been trailing obama only by a few points for months. How can an old fart do something like that? Should he not be shopping for a coffin or somethin? So it seems the old guy has a few surprises up his sleeve. When he picked Sarah, he threw the media into a frenzy and they completely forgot about obama and the great speech he made the night before .... and Sarah held their attention for a week. Then came her speech. She did a good job and was watched by as many millions(save one) as the masterful obama.HOW did she/McCain do that? And she did it on only 6 network/cable stations -- compared to obama's 10. And no one counts c-span or youtube --- and why not? MY POINT, there is joy and glee in Sarah bashing today here at C&L, kind of reminds me of the Spring --- but it is folly. The great and powerful obama does not have this election in the bag, though he should. After 8 fucking years of the worst kind of president/vp, the nation should be flocking to any democrat. BUT NO IT IS NOT-- and why? Whatever the answer, there is an open door through which McCain and Palin are going to try to slip. And female bashing is gonna help. stupid --- Hate her all ya want, but she is young and and a new kind of repbulican, as hard as that is to believe. You better know your enemy or it is going to be President McCain.
L.A. Confidential @ 57:
She's proof that people evolved from lower life forms. I'll be she knows how to use the Internet, though.
BobbyG @ 55:
That focus group interview was done over a week ago, 4 days before The Speech for the Ages.
No one could argue competently the dynamics have not changed dramatically since then.
No even Gloria Steinem, try as she might.
JT Draper @ 63:
Well why do you think she's so popular.
JT Draper @ 60:
HAHAHAH!!! good one! I really want to know what books she wanted to ban. Does anyone know? I can't seem to find anything about that.
mudshark @ 7:
Great news! The U.S. controlled Bhutto AND Musharraf. So sum total change here: zero.
dennis @ 64:
Palin can bask in her 15 days iced-down of fame for now. The aura will be short-lived.
Abbybwood @ 67:
Thats why we have 761 Military installations blemishing the freaking planet all over the place!
"CoNtrol"
Here's a great editorial from Judith Warner in the NYT about Palin.
Palin is no role model for women in politics. She was picked for pure gimmick and political expediency.
JT Draper @ 60:
She never banned one book, nor did she try to.
BobbyG @ 68:
Hey she's got Personality Bub! That's what it's about personality. Substance? Duuuuuuh whats that?
dennis @ 47:
Oh bullsh*t!
There's an expected bounce from McSame's non-convention.
As for women going to Palin..... PLEASE!!! Palin is the church lady in a bikini- cute but still an ultra-conservative rightwing ideologue who is practicing cronyism with renewed vigor and enthusiasm now that McBUsh and co. are right with them in obstruction of justice, i.e. the latest troopergate scandal.
And once the bounce is over, the question that will be in everyone's mind will ring even louder...... to paraphrase Jon Stewart: " So the republican party is the only one that can fix the mess that the republican party made??"
That one chromosome is not going fool women. They know what they've been fighting for for years!
Yeah, there's an emperor with no clothes on the scene all right, and his name is McBush/Palin/Cain.
The jig is up!
All you've got is: VOTE DOUBLESPEAK: Palin/McBush '80 !
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So like when is the Mickey Mouse Media going to let Obama have 5 seconds of air time?
@74
Do Not Feed.
Osama Obama @ 74:
John called to Sarah P. with cell phone in his hand,
Said: "Sarah you're a-talkin' to a worried, worried man.
Can't let you out to wander cross this highly-partisan land,
'Cause you'll rile up the folks who take a pro-choice stand."
See the Palins retreating,
Humble moose pie they're eating.
North to Alaska,
They're goin' North, the rush is on.
North to Alaska,
They're goin' North, the rush is on.
Osama Obama @ 74:
Whoa something escaped from Jurassic Park!!
dennis @ 71:
Penis, you finaly got the nerve to come back. So she didn't ban any books. She just wanted the authority to do it and fired the librarian because she would have nothing to do with it. The librarian was hired back because others stepped in. Enough of the right wing talking points.
BobbyG @ 76:
I'd like to slap 74 up the side of the head then hand him back his Dentures.
"Sorry bout that pop. But patience has it's limits you know."
Hard to believe there are still people so brainwashed and indoctrinated by the old cold war they are still hallucinating Ruskies crawling around in their back yards.
Yep.
http://warner.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/04/the-mirrored-ceiling/index.html
Tom @ 36:
He's a muzzie! A secret agent of Bin Ladens!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He's coming to take our wives and daughters and Private Property from US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL man talk about brainwashed.
SMN @ 70:
You could make the same argument that the same is true of the candidacy of St. Barry, the Tan...
>>Palin isn’t qualified to carry HRC’s briefcase, let alone be considered her political equal.
Ditto Obama.
Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com
I would like to ask people about what I think is the elephant in the room in regards to Palin.
Other than her fundi street cred, personal style, and the fact that she is blank slate somewhat of a blank slate to the country (that can be written on by rove)...
A huge calculation on the GOPs part in picking her is that she is very pretty. The fact that this acts on much of the public on at least a subconscious-level is obvious from looking at advertising.
Please take this the wrong way, but while watching her I thought 'the repukes are losing so they had to go get a hot chick.'
Bush-Chee-knee Republican
Tom, it's like, peace of "mind" is manufactured from within.
Relax! We're going to do great with Obama/Biden
We'll have prosperity, our reputation will be restored, the world will have respect for America again, he'll rebuild our military Bush and Rumsfeld have destroyed. You'll be able to watch TV to your hearts content.
dennis @ 64:
So one speech magically qualifies her to be president?
My, how times have changed.
I'm sure the last post will come off as sexist, which may be why others aren't saying it. If I thought Palin had the experience needed, then I would consider her appearance as secondary. However, in her case, I feel that her experience is lacking. So, I ask myself, why would the most manipulative political machine in memory nominate for VP a former beauty queen?
"Because the Republicans, very clearly, believe that real people are idiots. This disdain for their smarts shows up in the whole way they’ve cast this race now, turning a contest over economic and foreign policy into a culture war of the Real vs. the Elites. It’s a smoke and mirrors game aimed at diverting attention from the fact that the party’s tax policies have helped create an elite that’s more distant from “the people” than ever before…
And they are entirely correct in that assessment, as the events of the last two--and five of the last seven--presidential "contests" have conclusively demonstrated...
I can think of no contravening evidence.
And frankly, there is basically no difference between either party on matters of foreign policy, and hardly any on domestic matters--except for the intentionally 'controversial' wedge issues: god, guns, and gays...
She....is a candidate of change, but not the kind we'll like.
L.A. Confidential @ 92:
Hahahaha...........ya........the world will greet you with flowers and cheers and singing your national anthem!!!
Don't think hothead Biden will be a very good Prez after Obama is out of the picture........like nutcases are going to allow Obama to be Prez full term...right, and Hillay is a seasoned experienced politician....hahahaha.
Ron @ 78:
First, she didn't fire the librarian. Second, even if she had, there is no evidence existing anywhere that it had anything to do with her position on the banning of books. If there was, Ron, you would know about it. If she was hellbent on doing it, don't you think her much more powerful position as governor would've been a better place to exercise that option?
It's not right-wing talking points to ask someone to back up allegations based on conjecture at best.
ConcernedCanuck @ 99:
Alright now CC. I could come back with something like. . . "this coming from a guy in a country that celebrates an annual clubbing of baby seals" but I won't.
I get ur' drift.
StirFry @ 18:
thanks - that's a really good article.
dennis @ 100:
Better do your research Bitch! She was mayor at the time.
L.A. Confidential @ 101:
Hahaha......just joking with ya LA.......and hey, somebody has to kill those seals for the rich folks to get their coats from.
BobbyG @ 55:
Thanks for that link.
Tom@36
You are repeating what LIBERALS said about Bush nearly 8 years ago. Katrina became the "innocent child". After that, it was clear that the neo-con agenda was a decpetive, abysmal FAILURE. Wher was Bush on that day? Eating cake with McCain. Please spare us the lecture. Obama writes his own speeches, McCain and Palin use the words of others. Why is that? Don't they have enough clarity of mind to represent themselves? Obamas clothes are his own, there is no facade. If you don't like it, then go ahead and vote for the ones who can't speak outside of their bubble.
ConcernedCanuck @ 105:
I know you are. Unfortunately your correct.
sgtmajor @ 4:
But I suspect Ms. Palin might be ever slightly more intelligent....not hard to do, considering that idiot we've had in office the past 8 years.
Got to go later!
L.A. Confidential @ 108:
Be kinda messy if they didn't kill 'em first.
General Jack D. Ripper @ 109:
Intelligent? She is good looking and by the number of kids, enjoys sex......hard to compare that to Bush, or Hillary, or Madeline Albright!!!
I thought Palin's convention speech was extremely effective for the repug base, and while watching it did, indeed, recognize that it would re-energize a depressed base. However, I also saw the speech she made yesterday. Her presentation truly is shrill and GRATING. Never mind whether you agree with or are repelled by what this devisive woman actually says. It's the way she screeches it out. A bit more exposure to her speechs and a lot of the right wing males will start wondering "could I possibly put up with 4 years of THIS"?
Rusty Shackleford @ 93:
Please don't join the chorus of handwringers here, Rusty. I didn't say that. I'm just saying the focus group video was done on the Sunday following Sarah White House's Friday announcement. People had not seen much of her nor did they know anything about her experience and reform accomplishments. Nor did they have the slightest indication that she could possibly deliver such and effective and powerful speech.
If you want to argue that the same people from that same focus group would say the exact same things I'd be glad to debate that with you, but I've already posted an up to date poll that shows McCain has not already chipped away at Obama's lead, but he's done it by winning women voters- exactly the opposite of what Gloria Steinem is arguing will not and cannot (read: hopes will not) happen.
Anchorage Daily News
WASILLA -- Back in 1996, when she first became mayor, Sarah Palin asked the city librarian if she would be all right with censoring library books should she be asked to do so. According to news coverage at the time, the librarian said she would definitely not be all right with it. A few months later, the librarian, Mary Ellen Emmons, got a letter from Palin telling her she was going to be fired. The censorship issue was not mentioned as a reason for the firing. The letter just said the new mayor felt Emmons didn't fully support her and had to go.
Emmons had been city librarian for seven years and was well liked. After a wave of public support for her, Palin relented and let Emmons keep her job.
I don't know about you guys, but I'm very excited about having this petty, vindictive woman a heartbeat away from the nuclear trigger.
great shot of mccain and palin letting their hair down in late night strategy powwow:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radioassets/photos/2007/2/9/14603_2.jpg
dennis @ 116:
Indeed. Ms. Steinem should have been more cognizant of the fact that many women enjoy being dragged back into the pre-feminist past. This should be a lesson to her.
Ron @ 104:
Aside from deemphasizing the rumor-mongering websites, Ron, I have done my research.
If you have any evidence you've uncovered and can report that no one else has been able to, please step up to the plate.
v @ 66:
Here's a list.
GoodGod @ 114:
Funny how the sexist term 'shrill' pops up again, isn't it? Grating voice; screeching voice. Forget what she says, notice how she says it.
Where have I heard this before?
"Obama is a Socialist!"...
...angrily cry the "conservative" supporters of the standard bearer of the party and administration about to nationalize the two largest U.S. mortgage entities.
GoodGod @ 114:
Yeah, I saw her speech yesterday as well. There is something really annoying in her voice when she uses sarcasm to bash her opponents. Even BillO the Clown last night said that he saw arrogance in her presentation.
The other thing I noticed is that she kept her head down quite a bit, reading that speech. It is so painfully obvious that she is taking talking points from her speechwriters and advisors; she is going to be kept from the media for awhile so she can be trained and can memorize many things.
dennis @ 120:
No you haven't. Do your research. Google and don't just cherry pick.
dennis @ 120:
Anchorage Daily News
WASILLA -- Back in 1996, when she first became mayor, Sarah Palin asked the city librarian if she would be all right with censoring library books should she be asked to do so.
According to news coverage at the time, the librarian said she would definitely not be all right with it. A few months later, the librarian, Mary Ellen Emmons, got a letter from Palin telling her she was going to be fired. The censorship issue was not mentioned as a reason for the firing. The letter just said the new mayor felt Emmons didn't fully support her and had to go.
Emmons had been city librarian for seven years and was well liked. After a wave of public support for her, Palin relented and let Emmons keep her job.
Sara didn't ban books, but she wanted the authority to do it. When the "well liked" librarian stood up to her, Sara responded with a termination threat.
Do we want a woman this petty and vindictive to be a feeble heartbeat away from the nuclear trigger?
Paul in Boca @ 39:
Read [Deleted]
[See? I told you. Tom wants a McCain sippy cup or some other shiny thing-Sitemonitor]
Ron @ 129:
Ron, you're the one making an allegation you have no evidence for making. You are the one cherry-picking if you're trying to make the case that Sarah Palin will try to get books banned once she's in the White House. There is no evidence she would.
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dennis @ 123:
dennis @ 64:
"Speech for the ages"? You surely must mean Obama's inspirational address, not Moosegirl's snarky, snide and downright disrespectful pep rally to the robotic GOP acolytes.
Weren't you asked to take your tired trolling elsewhere?
Don't forget that she also shares that gene for low melanin content in the skin - the real driving force behind most of those "disgruntled Hillary Supporters".
bettybarracuda @ 132:
I feel like I'm telling a child to do their homework.
Spam filter seems to be choking on links to the Anchorage newspaper article that details how Sara Palin threatened to fire the librarian who stood up to her irrational demand for the authority to ban books.
Sarah Palin has become a big advocate for special need children.....in the past four months. There is nothing in her record to suggest that special needs children were on her radar prior to having one of her own, and she cut resources for teen moms. I am the mom of a special needs child and am offended by the cynical exploitation of children to score political compassion points. I will stick with the team that has always had the needs of children on the front-burner. Also, why is Palins family and her priorities so out of line? She made it an issue by describing herself as a hockey mom and PTA member. It isn't sexist to want to know what her priorities are, and YES, I would want to know the same of a dad with a similar high maintenance family.
HelenWheels @ 121:
Good list. Starts off by telling people some of the books weren't written until after 1996, the time when Palin was mayor and supposedly compiled a list of books to be banned. Crack research going on here.
dennis @ 135:
F.U. you idiot, I didn't say or suggest anything like that, Bitch. Are you interviewing fot a job as a Faux commentator? Change subject, throw off dumbed down audience and spout B.S.
BigIslandDave @ 139:
Obama's speech was outstanding. Sorry, but it's not the one people are talking about now. If you need evidence of that scroll back through the blog posts here going back to the night, Wednedsay night, heretofore known as the night it all changed.
I'm an independent.
As someone who is concerned with national security, one of my concerns about Palin is that before being announced as GOP VP, she stated she didn't much about the war because she doesn't follow the war on Irag?!?! Excuse me, what politician doesn't follow what's going on with the war? Yet I'm suppose to assume that she will be prepared to step in as commander in chief. Now I know there is a staff that has been assigned to her to get her educated on foreign affairs, but at least Obama/Biden are knowledgable what's going on in the foreign arena and didn't just learn it in a cram session.
I'll need see how she responds in interviews (if there ever are any) and in the debates before I decide.
Jesus barred from the McCain Campaign Web site
Tired of Preaching to the Choir? I went blogging on the Mc Cain Website and learned :
NOTE: This phrase will get you an error message and I was not able to post-- Jesus was a community organizer, Pontius Pilate, was a governor.
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OF course, they listed Crooks and Liars!!
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She has a long way to go to be able to compare herself to Hillary.
Ron @ 148:
No, Ron, it's just that it's a ridiculous allegation, like many others about her, that do nothing for your side in your frantic attempts to tear her down. Again, if she were hell-bent on trying to deny the town of Wasilla access to certain books, she sure didn't try very hard, and she hasn't attempted anything remotely like that anytime since, even now in her much, much more powerful capacity.
Tom @ 133:
So you give me a link to a site requiring resgistration? Not an effective way to make whatever your point is supposed to be. Did you read the link I asked you to?
vote for the shiny object! it'll look great in your nest!
boobell @ 153:
She is right now being briefed on how to answer. They answers won't be thoughtful answers, they will canned responses. I CAN'T trust her with National Security issues. It amazes me that she would accept such a position knowing so very little.
Carol @ 57:
Worse, because McCain is Cheney.
L.A. Confidential @ 43:
ARGHHHHHHH? What's wrong with 74? If you're lucky, you'll have such an important impact on women's lives and live that long as well. Don't knock Gloria because of her age... (A secret: everybody gets older until they die. But shhhh, don't tell anybody -- they might panic.)
dennis @ 152:
Dennis, are you back here again? Disseminating??!!
It seems such a shame that a "person" who can actually string a few sentences together would be supporting a barely educated, uniformed, earmark-taking, moose-killing, polar bear-hating mama from the hinterlands. But, I suppose the money's good....
I think this will be the most watched Vice Presidential debate in history.
And I can't wait...
*evil laughter*
Oh, and the "someone stole my shoes so I'll just amputate my legs"? Classic. I must remember that.
dennis @ 125:
Lynne Cheney? Sisters: A Love Story
A list of all Palin rumors, debunked, for all the rumor-mongering Palinmaniacs:
Rumors
SARAH PALIN = MCCAIN = BUSH
4 MORE OF BULLSHIT
Sorry, but Sarah Palin is NOT a Bush Republican. She is not a McCain Republican. She is further to the right than both.
In retrospect its interesting to note how Karl Rove tried to characterize any potential VP pick of Obama's as inevitably intensely political ones given this (Rovian)out come.Karl just loves him some projection.
dennis @ 156:
WTF is your point, then?
bloo @ 119:
Ha Ha Ha!!! 2 points for you.
dennis @ 72:
This was your first comment on her banning books. Now you say she sdidn't try very hard to. Which is it Penis?
I'm not the biggest Hillary fan, but Gov. Hockey Mom is no Hillary. All Sarah Palin is a "pretender". She tries to project the ideal circumstances in her family, career and now as a V.P. But when you peel the veneer off of this woman, you get something worst that the deepest sewer.
She stinks to high heaven, and I think even she knows it at times.
One of the nicest things I can say about HRC is that she doesn't pretend about her children. Chelsea behaves herself. And she has a Masters degree.
What can Gov. Hockey Mom say about her kids?
Palin is a CHENEY Republican.
I like this analogy better:
If any Clinton supporters tout Palin, they sound like a vegan at a restaurant saying, “Oh, you’re out of the tofu and sprouts? Then just give me a bloody steak and a side of veal cheeks.”
Your dried up, old, sister-feminazi's from the 60's and early 70's are a are a mockery of the whole liberal movement. NOW has what, 200,000 members- that's a joke. We live in a conservative USA today- the libs have done enough damage through the 70's with carter to last a lifetime.
Get used to saying President McCain and Vice President Palin- it's going to happen.
Heartache in '08 for the libs (again!)
Ron @ 145:
I didn't say she didn't try very hard to, Ron. I said 'if she were hell-bent on trying to deny the town of Wasilla access to certain books, she sure didn’t try very hard, and she hasn’t attempted anything remotely like that anytime since, even now in her much, much more powerful capacity.' I am saying this ridiculous assertion based on an innocuous inquiry she made way back in 1996 as your only source of speculation does nothing to assert any kind of case that Sarah Barracuda would attempt to ban books. If she was they type to try, don't you think she would've done more than what she did, especially since she later became governor?
You can't make a case for it. You still offer up no information to your original allegation that Palin fired the librarian. And trust me, don't even bother looking because it didn't happen.
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