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Tweety: "It's impossible to fail as much as Bush has"

  In response to a question by Rachel Maddow on how Barack Obama or John McCain may have responded differently to than Bush, Chris Matthews goes off on the President for irresponsibly squandering the national unity that followed. He then goes on to bash all the neoconservatives who saw the event not as a way to lead the world in a fight against those who attacked us, but rather as an excuse to go after Iraq and pursue their wildest imperial ambitions.

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"It is impossible to fail as much as this President has."

John Amato:  Since Chris Matthews and so many in the media helped defeat Al Gore, I wonder if he'll take a look at himself in the mirror and know he's been part of that failure. And if John McCain wins the White House it'll be more of the same.



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So Bush accomplished the impossible? I'm impressed. Maybe the Boy Blunder is more capable than I took him for.

Great comment!!!

That's very presumptious of Chris. If Senator McCain is elected, we'll find out just how much worse it will be.

I've said it before and it needs repeating.

The Bush Administration has failed INTENTIONALLY so they could dismantle big government.

They failed on the war because a longer war means more profiteering.

And the American people failed because they let it happen.

it's a great comment.

what the hell is wrong with crooks and Liar's services recently?

wow. go Chris...

servers

Matthews is truly a baffling person. I think I saw him yesterday drooling over Palin.

Tweet is a sweety...but it is possible to fail more!

We could invade Russia.

We could bomb Venezuela.

We could throw the constitution away forever.

There is still room for more damage.

problem is he ain't done failing yet.

All well and good, Tweety, but why'd you get that priapic boner when Chimpy McFlightsuit strutted across that aircraft carrier?

Oh, and I remember how you swooned over Fred Thompson's Aqua-Velvet manliness ...

You're all talk. And grating, annoying, irritating talk, at that.

Jay Severin Has A Small Pen1s @ 4:

I've said it before and it needs repeating.

The Bush Administration has failed INTENTIONALLY so they could dismantle big government.

They failed on the war because a longer war means more profiteering.

And the American people failed because they let it happen.

bingo.

“It is impossible to fail as much as this President has.”
If McBain and Palin steal the election, you will see new depths of failure that would make Bush seem like a goddamn genius.

Matthews voted for Bush in 2000....thanks

I bet McCain hears this as a challenge.

"Mission Accomplished"

Don't misunderestimate the flatulent frat boy. He's got lots of failin left in him.

Failure implies that the results were not intentional - #4 had it right this is all according to plan...

izzat so tweety? so where the hell have you and your big mouth been these years since 9/11 when bush has been dividing the nation? i don't remember you much berating him for divisiveness.
a little too late pally.

But be assured that John McCain will do his best to be even worse even if he has to go to the gates of hell—dragging us all with him.

Once again, I think Matthews is either bipolar or on some kind of meds. I notice sometimes that when he talks like this, he slurs his speech alot.

I'm not a big fan of his, but I worry about the man sometimes.

And I know she plays for the other team, but I've always found Rachel attractive. Intelligent woman turn me on.

Chris is right and wrong. Right on the details. Wrong on it being impossible for anyone to screw this up worse.

John McCain has, working for him as advisers, all the guys that Bush/Cheney THREW OUT for being TOO EXTREME on this policy.

Think about that. McCain's Neoconservatives were too much, even for Bush/Cheney.

We elect John McCain, and within one year, we'll be wishing for Bush back.

John McCain = WORSE than Bush.

Really.

Screw Tweety. In the end, he'll always carry the GOP's brackish water.

He's simply insufferable.

"He divided us"

Boy, nail on the head.

I've never seen our nation so divided, and I believe it was a deliberate strategy to -- keep the peons at each others' throats.

did anyone else notice a hint of condensation, of a "how did SHE get this gig?" attitude, from matthews, and even andrea, when rachel introduced them to her show?

Don't look now, but:

Rule Changes Would Give FBI Agents Extensive New Powers

"The overhaul touches on several sensitive areas. It would allow, for example, agents to interview people in the United States about foreign intelligence cases without warrants or prior approval of their supervisors. It also would rewrite 1976 guidelines established after Nixon-era abuses that restrict the FBI's authority to intervene in times of civil disorder and to infiltrate opposition groups."

Chris is right and wrong. Right on the details. Wrong on it being impossible for anyone to screw this up worse.

John McCain has, working for him as advisers, all the guys that Bush/Cheney THREW OUT for being TOO EXTREME on this policy.

Think about that. McCain's Neoconservatives were too much, even for Bush/Cheney.

We elect John McCain, and within one year, we'll be wishing for Bush back.

John McCain = WORSE than Bush.

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Dear Chris Matthews,

You're obviously wrong. He hasn't failed enough to warrant his ouster!

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Embittered & Anti-Republicrat - Max-Hussein-1 @ 28:

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Dear Chris Matthews,

You're obviously wrong. He hasn't failed enough to warrant his ouster!

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Or has Congress failed even more?

*Mission Impossible IV*

"The theft of the US treasury, goodwill and moral standing" coming to a theatre near you.

Although a profound comment, this observation was evident five years ago! If it's going to take our so called msm five years to get current events right, the people in this country will never be informed.

Despite the media being firmly on the right, by and large, this rant by Chris may be an opening for others to follow. Let's see.

All we need to do is make him see that a McCain presidency would be much more of the same, and worse.

who cares until mccain is tied to bush's policies....

It's impossible...yes...and YET... over 4,000 of our children died these last 8 years of this seemingly neverending nightmare...including my own son.

And that's thanks to media personalities like Tweety who never called a 'spade' a 'spade' and to the American people who are simply unable to recognize one when they see one and to those who recognized it but were too apathetic (and unaffected by it) to do anything about it.

I don't mean to mud sling but quick a note:

When Sarah Palin was mayor she charged rape victims for the kits used to prove the crime and capture the perpetrator.

*Today's Dark Twist*

Alaska has the highest rates of rape and incest in the country!

(not that it's her fault, but it's just creepy the way she treats victims)

And don't forget she's Pro-Life even in cases of rape or incest.

The good side of Chris Matthews strikes again.

It will be very interesting to see what happens if he decides to run for Senate. He has a lot of moments like this, but people tend to remember the moments like saying Hillary got her job because of her husband's bad deeds, having a guest on who talked about Bush's manly characteristic, thrill up the leg, etc. One thing is for sure, that'll be one race that DEFINITELY isn't just about the issues!

It was quite a jeremiad, and Rachel just let him go. That's what I like about her, dunno if KO could have lasted more than a few seconds without having to put his oar in.

A good follow-on to his soliloquoy would have been: "So, Chris, do you think that America can survive four more years of this?" I'd have loved to hear his answer to that.

Sorry, Tweety; I'll never forget your little schoolgirl gush-spasm over Commander Clueless in his codpiece combat suit.
You said words to the effect of "Americans want a macho president."

Yeah, that was what the stupid, easily-impressed Americans wanted. Like your silly self.

OT for a sec: Anybody know where Ann Coulter has been this election season?

It is impossible to succeed as much as this President has, since he has never been held accountable for his actions, and never will be. That's where the public, the politicians and the medea have utterly failed.

PNY @ 39:

OT for a sec: Anybody know where Ann Coulter has been this election season?

Counting her money and eating kittens.

Dear Chris Matthews,
So reality is just starting to sink in eh? But you still don't get it? George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, "Wolfie" (as you call him), and the neo-con cabal conspired to wreck our country as a liberal (small "L") democratic republic and turn it into a corporate-fascist state. Plain and simple. What's so hard about that? Their philosophy? Weaken the Federal government so that they could "drown it in a bathtub," privatize everything so the oligarchs could wring the remaining nickels out of the so-called "middle class" and put themselves about the law and the Constitution. And Iraq? Money laundering plain and simple: blow shit up, pay their pals to pretend to fix it, then blow the shit up again. All while either driving up the price of oil or stealing it outright. How difficult is it to connect the dots? Trouble is Chris, you and your colleagues in the media are complicit. You serve your masters well. You can just smell the Aqua Velva now, eh pal?

“It is impossible to fail as much as this President has.”

I have to disagree. McStain/Palin could fail in a way that would make King George look like a man of intellect and discretion. Which may be the Bush/Rove strategy.

There are only two ways for Bush to look good in the history books. One is to accomplish so much that he is deemed great based on his own merits (HA!) and the other is to make his successor look worse.

PEACE

special interests
charlie black....a conflict may help mccain
mccain= randy schuenemann......lobbyist georgia conflict
phil gramm.....ubs warburg....'whiners'
rick davis.....big time lobbyist
woosley

I disagree with Chris.

McCain is going to make Bush look like Eisenhower.

You think the Iraq War is bad? Wait until you see McCain's Iran War.

It can always be worse.

ya know @ 31:

Although a profound comment, this observation was evident five years ago! If it's going to take our so called msm five years to get current events right, the people in this country will never be informed.

It's called knowing which way the wind is blowing. Tweety must have started his broadcast career as a weatherman.

No, but lets reward the gop with four more years of power and reelect the same corrupt parties because we believe they will change.

Insane, isn't it?

Yes, it is the definition of insanity and gullibility.

Change and reform is total bs.

Its business as usual.

palin's favorite church hymm...'onward christian soldiers'

It is impossible to fail as much as this President has.

Chris Matthews, meet John McCain and Sarah Palin. They are poised to fail even more.

PNY @ 39:

OT for a sec: Anybody know where Ann Coulter has been this election season?

She came out against McCain. There is no corporate media in America who will pay any attention to her now.

PNY @ 39:

OT for a sec: Anybody know where Ann Coulter has been this election season?

McOld nominated her for veep.

Although I applaud Matthews for saying this, I ask, "Was it your clone, Chris, who was kissing Bush's ass for the last 7 years or was I hallucinating?"

He didn't have the balls to say this for 7 years and now that Bush is halfway out the door, all of a sudden he's a macho man.

it is impossible to fail as much as this President the Media has.

Sounds like he's smoothing the way for McSame ...
"don't worry it can't get any worse"
.... Oh yeah Tweets?

how the public can overlook the blunders and the management of the quagmire by the bush adminstration
baffles me.
mccain maybe will stay 100 yrs. in iraq as long as there
isn't any casualities

And Tweety sucks as a Journalist too.

Tweety is dr jykell and mr hyde when it comes to his comments. He falls for the aw shucks that spill from bushs mouth and then rips him apart on the way he runs the govt. Bi polar journalism at its best.

And we know what we will get from the dems after 06.

Now, they are caving on drilling like they always do.

Yup, business as usual no matter who wins.

The people lose.

Shade Tail @ 1:

So Bush accomplished the impossible? I'm impressed. Maybe the Boy Blunder is more capable than I took him for.

You have obviously not been watching Chris Matthews the last five years. I have been taking a beating for sticking up for Matthews in the so called progressive blogosphere. (and he does piss me off at times the way any talking head should if they are trying to challenge all sides). Matthews has been hammering hard on those who lied this nation into war as soon as he realized he was fucking duped along with the rest of the MSM by the warmongers. Matthews has taken Kristol, Frum, Bolton and other regime change zealots for a ride around the block for a righteous pounding . That is when they were willing to come on his program. (I would put money on it that these radicals are unwilling to come on his program any more)

I am still pushing Matthews (he talks to peasants) to have Flynt Leverett
http://www.cfr.org/publication/10326/
http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2007/12/07/iran_policy/

Scott Ritter and Juan Cole on to discuss Iran

So glad Matthews mentioned Wolfowitz (who slipped out the back door), Stephen Hadley (still in there fucking up on foreign policy), and David "fuck the constitution" Addington. . I love the way Matthews just rips through Cheney by calling him "Dick Cheeeney" with that smirk. You can tell if Matthews had the opportunity he would rip Cheeeney's jugular out in a heartbeat for his crimes against Plame, our soldiers and Iraq

These criminals should be impeached for their many crimes against humanity as John Dean has so articulately pointed out,so that they can not roll back into a future administration the way they have in the past

Impeach lower level officials
http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20061215.html
Refocusing the Impeachment Movement on Administration Officials Below the President and Vice-President:
Why Not Have A Realistic Debate, with Charges that Could Actually Result in Convictions?
By JOHN W. DEAN
Friday, Dec. 15, 2006

There is a well-organized and growing movement to impeach President Bush and/or Vice President Cheney. On my bookshelf sit half a dozen books making the case for Bush's impeachment. I myself have no doubt that Bush has, in fact, committed impeachable offenses, and that for each Bush "high crime and misdemeanor," Cheney's culpability is ten or twenty times greater.

At the outset of the 2006 midterm election, Democratic Speaker-designate Nancy Pelosi, and Senator Majority Leader-designate Harry Reid, stated on behalf of the Democratic leadership that impeachment of Bush or Cheney would be off the table if they won control of Congress - as they have indeed done. But this position has angered many who want these men impeached.

John Armstrong @ 44:

I disagree with Chris.

McCain is going to make Bush look like Eisenhower.

You think the Iraq War is bad? Wait until you see McCain's Iran War.

It can always be worse.

It needs to be repeated over and over again that McCain is a Neocon and that same ideology that divided this country is at the heart of his foreign policy.

In fact McCain's chief foreign policy adviser is a charter member of PNAC and that has even conservatives scared shitless of what a McCain presidency will be like.

Pat Buchanan is a jackass, but he knows the neocons well and as he so succinctly puts it...

And None Dare Call It Treason

by Patrick J. Buchanan

Scheunemann's résumé as a War Party apparatchik is lengthy. He signed the PNAC (Project for the New American Century) letter to President Clinton urging war on Iraq, four years before 9-11.

He signed the PNAC ultimatum to Bush, nine days after 9-11, threatening him with political reprisal if he did not go to war against Iraq.

He was executive director of the "Committee for the Liberation of Iraq," a propaganda front for Ahmad Chalabi and his pack of liars who deceived us into war.

Now Scheunemann is the neocon agent in place in McCain's camp.

The neocons got their war with Iraq. They are pushing for war on Iran. And they are now baiting the Russian Bear.

Is this what McCain has on offer? Endless war?

Why would McCain seek foreign policy counsel from the same discredited crowd that has all but destroyed the presidency of George Bush?

"Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence ... a free people ought to be constantly awake," Washington warned in his Farewell Address. Our Founding Father was warning against the Randy Scheunemanns among us, agents hired by foreign powers to deceive Americans into fighting their wars. And none dare call it treason.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/buchanan/buchanan95.html

jeff @ 55:

Tweety is dr jykell and mr hyde when it comes to his comments. He falls for the aw shucks that spill from bushs mouth and then rips him apart on the way he runs the govt. Bi polar journalism at its best.

Hello he has been consistently hammering on the regime change radicals.

Hello he is supposed to challenge all sides on other issues.

I agree with Rachel and Olberman but they do not challenge my thinking. Matthews does and is supposed to.

“It is impossible to fail as much as this President has.”

The MSM has failed even more than W. What's the point of stating the obvious when it's way too late to make much difference.

PNAC

The realization is beginning to dawn on people that there COULD be something worse than a President George W Bush. President Sarah Palin.

Geeeez, it's taken THIS long for him to figure this shit out?

xoites defends Constitution @ 49:

PNY @ 39:

OT for a sec: Anybody know where Ann Coulter has been this election season?

She came out against McCain. There is no corporate media in America who will pay any attention to her now.

That was my suspicion as well. See what happens when you don't read your morning memo. Like Hannity says: He writes his own talking points. And he does, in the sense that he copies them out. Physically he is actually writing and therefore still employed.

Now that I have listened to the whole clip, Tweety does have an excellent point (that scholars made in 2003):

The country was behind GWB 7 years ago on that cloudy Friday in lower Manhattan. Although he was late in visiting NYC (Clinton was there the day before, and had he been in office, Clinton would have been there the night of 9/11), Bush grabbed a megaphone and reprised his role as Yale cheerleader (which he was). He said that we were going to get the 'guys' who did it, and that 'the people who knocked these buildings down will hear from all of us soon.' Tweety thought that was his greatest moment. His Churchill moment.

Then he did two things to alienate the American people and our allies abroad.

1. The nations of the world asked us what they could do to help. Bush responded not with a 'no thanks,' but instead a threat. "You're either with us, or you are with the terrorists." In an instant, people around the world were shocked that the US was telling them that only the US could defeat al Qaeda, an organization that operates in over 40 countries.

2. Then the citizens of the USA asked the president, 'What can we do to help?' The president's response was swift: go shopping, travel, spend your money and help keep the private airlines afloat. This call was supposed to assure Americans that he was strong enough to defeat al Qaeda and restore order as the world's global sheriff. But instead it was a call for Americans to avoid getting involved in our democracy. Don't ask questions. Don't question the White House's strategy for defeating al Qaeda. That went for the Democrats as well - keep out. Fighting terrorists is a Republican-owned project. You will never see the inside of the White House this decade.

On both counts, Bush set himself up for failure just as he had a moment to bring the world together. The Neo Con plan was officially in-play.

Chris Matthews is a Patsy.

Peter G @ 64:

xoites defends Constitution @ 49:

PNY @ 39:

OT for a sec: Anybody know where Ann Coulter has been this election season?

She came out against McCain. There is no corporate media in America who will pay any attention to her now.

That was my suspicion as well. See what happens when you don't read your morning memo. Like Hannity says: He writes his own talking points. And he does, in the sense that he copies them out. Physically he is actually writing and therefore still employed.

if mccain/palin lose she'll say i told you...even ann coulter knows a palin pick is irresponsible

Kathleen @ 59:

jeff @ 55:

Tweety is dr jykell and mr hyde when it comes to his comments. He falls for the aw shucks that spill from bushs mouth and then rips him apart on the way he runs the govt. Bi polar journalism at its best.

Hello he has been consistently hammering on the regime change radicals.

Hello he is supposed to challenge all sides on other issues.

I agree with Rachel and Olberman but they do not challenge my thinking. Matthews does and is supposed to.

Like I'm thinking "Where the hell has this guy been for the past eight years?" Didn't Matthews get all warm and fuzzy, and gushed like a little schoolgirl when admiring Bush's cod piece when Bush landed on the aircraft carrier.

The problem with Matthews is that he's a leaf... following whatever blow that carries him from point A to point B.

Rachel, Keith, Thom Hartman, Randi Rhodes have all challenged me not to take anything for granted and that all sides of the issue must be viewed for a better story. They may not challenge my thinking, but they certainly provide the road map for me to follow, if I choose to do so.

Interesting change of tune, since Tweety cheerled for Bushco almost every step of the way.

lucid fiction @ 63:

Geeeez, it's taken THIS long for him to figure this shit out?

You obviously do not watch his program. He has been pounding the zealots who lied this nation into an unnecessary and immoral war harder than any other MSMer. For five long years. Longer than Olberman. Matthews has had Katrina from the nation on , Amy Goodman on and many many Iraqi war Vets on. That is before the MSM was ordered to only report about this endless campaign.

Chris Matthews is an enigma and an opportunist. For all these years he has breathlessly heaped lavish praise on the figurine named Boosh. All of a sudden, at the 11th hour before a decisive election that will toss the GOPervets to the curb like the trash that they are, he has this great epiphany and is now seeming to atone for the errors of his ways, as though we are all fools to just forget all of his shameless fawning and theatrics on behalf of the GOP, for years! Thanks for whatever semblance of "honesty" he may bring to the fore at this late point, but I for one, will never forget his dishonesty.

Kathleen @ 57 says:

"You have obviously not been watching Chris Matthews the last five years."

Odd you should choose the last five years to judge Tweety on. He was almost sexual in his slobbering over Commander Codpiece George W Bush when he landed on the deck of the USS Mission Accomplished in that little flightsuit costume just a little more than five years ago.

Matthews was unquestionably part of the media drumbeat for war that got us INTO this mess, and has not, as far as I'm aware, ever owned up to that.

Yah, uh, since Grandpa McSame honors service so much has he repudiated the remarks made by his running mate in her first (lying) speech to the nation?

ThunderMonkey @ 68:

Kathleen @ 59:

jeff @ 55:

Tweety is dr jykell and mr hyde when it comes to his comments. He falls for the aw shucks that spill from bushs mouth and then rips him apart on the way he runs the govt. Bi polar journalism at its best.

Hello he has been consistently hammering on the regime change radicals.

Hello he is supposed to challenge all sides on other issues.

I agree with Rachel and Olberman but they do not challenge my thinking. Matthews does and is supposed to.

Like I'm thinking "Where the hell has this guy been for the past eight years?" Didn't Matthews get all warm and fuzzy, and gushed like a little schoolgirl when admiring Bush's cod piece when Bush landed on the aircraft carrier.

The problem with Matthews is that he's a leaf... following whatever blow that carries him from point A to point B.

Rachel, Keith, Thom Hartman, Randi Rhodes have all challenged me not to take anything for granted and that all sides of the issue must be viewed for a better story. They may not challenge my thinking, but they certainly provide the road map for me to follow, if I choose to do so.

Yes matthews pisses me off. But there is no way around his pounding of the intelligence fabricators. He has pounded them hard. You can keep your head up where the sun does not shine and generalize matthews coverage but you are flat fucking wrong.

IdiotShrub @ 71:

Chris Matthews is an enigma and an opportunist. For all these years he has breathlessly heaped lavish praise on the figurine named Boosh. All of a sudden, at the 11th hour before a decisive election that will toss the GOPervets to the curb like the trash that they are, he has this great epiphany and is now seeming to atone for the errors of his ways, as though we are all fools to just forget all of his shameless fawning and theatrics on behalf of the GOP, for years! Thanks for whatever semblance of "honesty" he may bring to the fore at this late point, but I for one, will never forget his dishonesty.

that is a lie

I realize this interview was from September 11th regarding September 11th, but let's not limit Bush's divisiveness to that. My God, right after the 2004 elections that buffoon was boasting and strutting "I've got political capital and I'm gonna use it". To paraphrase, "In your face libruls; in your face America. I'm the decider."

List of Devisiveness:

1. The Iraq War
2. The 2000 and 2004 presidential campaigns
3. Terri Schiavo
4. The "political capital" statement
5. The "angry left" statement from the RNC
6. The "I don't know how much oil is today, why don't you tell me" statement to a reporter in the Washington Press Corp

Please add to the list. I got fed up after 6.

Why did Bush do it? C'mon, it isn't hard. Bush told his friend back in 1999 that he wanted to be a war president.

For the domestic political advantage.

Let there be a 100 ft statue of Bush erected with that as its motto:

'He went to war for domestic political advantage'

Why doesn't Howard Dean's DNC put out some ads attacking McCain? Where has Dean been? Where's HIS outrage?

chris matthews is predictably...unpredictable. there is value in that. i may not agree with him all the time
but he has his moments of being interesting.
although a ridiculous topic he broke down anybody on that
'lipstick on pig'....bullshxt.....now i realize that's no bid
accomplishment but he showed how ridiculous it was.

Dave @ 72:

Kathleen @ 57 says:

"You have obviously not been watching Chris Matthews the last five years."

Odd you should choose the last five years to judge Tweety on. He was almost sexual in his slobbering over Commander Codpiece George W Bush when he landed on the deck of the USS Mission Accomplished in that little flightsuit costume just a little more than five years ago.

Matthews was unquestionably part of the media drumbeat for war that got us INTO this mess, and has not, as far as I'm aware, ever owned up to that.

I will agree he did not ask hard enough questions before the invasion. But he did have some of the intelligence fabricators on before the invasion and pounded them. I am telling you when he realized how badly he was duped he got it and began pounding even harder. He has been ripping into Cheney , Addington, Hadley, Wolfowitz, Bolton etc specifically. People make very serious mistakes and they should get pounded for those (matthews) but when people learn from their stupid and serious mistakes lets give them some credit. This is not a recent development on Matthews part.

Huuuaaahhh! One of the many personalities of Chris Matthews.

Matthews to Maddow "that's the lowest bar you have ever set"

Matthews was right to challenge Rachel on this

Sarah Palin…“knows more about energy than probably anyone else in the United States of America.”-

John Mc Cain

"Everybody sort of likes the president, except for the real whack-jobs, maybe on the left"

-Christopher Matthews 2005

PS
Thank god we've got Luke Russert out there giving us his serious insights..

Yea tweety, ass. Bush did have us in his hand, it's called by the balls.

Yes he split the country, that is great, so happy now.

It's impossible to fail this much...hmmm...Groucho...what do you have to say about that?

"The last man nearly ruined this place, He didn’t know what to do with it.
If you think this country’s bad enough now, Just wait till I get through with it."

They didn't care about dividing or uniting.

PNAC

They wanted to invade Iraq long before 911.

They asked Clinton to attack Iraq.

What they needed was a catalyst, it says that right in the PNAC "charter". They got it with 911.

I don't know if the reason was simply to make money or what, but the attack on 911 was their ticket to invading Iraq.

They all knew it as soon as it happened. Then came the piecing together of the case to invade.

Then selling it to a public that was still in shock, and they bought it lock, stock and barrel.

I remember actually having some respect for Bush immediately after 911 (from a lifelong Democrat), but I was a little nervous of his declaration of a "war on terror".

I was all for going after Bin Laden, but (even before I knew anything about PNAC) I thought something smelled wrong in the run up to invading Iraq.

In the aftermath of that is basically when I "found out about" C&L and all the information out there for anyone to find, and my desire to learn about this stuff grew.

Now I'm a "political junkie", but I can't help it.

Peace everybody.

Chris has never been all that sharp as far as logic goes. Bush has failed as much as he has and therefore it is possible. Furthermore the clock is still ticking and who knows what spectacular feats of stupidity Bush has planned as his own exit strategy. I fully expect his last two months to be very arduous in one respect at least. I expect him to set a record for the most pardons issued and to make that a record to endure.

What preceded this part of the interview was Rachel asking Tweety if he remembers that McCain was on his show after 9/11 saying we would be going to Iraq. Tweety responded by saying her researchers were good but he didn't remember that, and then changed the subject. I wish she had of clip of that.
Yeah he slammed bush and all in this clip but he won't acknowledge that McCain will continue the same policies. Slamming bush at this point doesn't mean shit.

Shucks Chris,pick a team.

wonder when Matthews or someone in the MSM will mention the letter that Congressman Conyers sent Mukasey this week?
http://judiciary.house.gov/news/080910.html
http://judiciary.house.gov/News/PDFs/Conyers080910.pdf

Dutton Peabody @ 83:

Sarah Palin…“knows more about energy than probably anyone else in the United States of America.”-

John Mc Cain

and that was a response to being asked about her national security experience...i understand the connection but it's a stretch.
palin is like bush and mccain they won't be what they say there aren't hands on they are let the lobbyists do
the work where do i sign. palin is NOT an intellect neither is mccain

Before reading comments above, I just have to say first:
"Crissy reminds me oh soooo much of Alan Specter...not to be
listened to, and if you do so, forget what he(they) said, for it is
just gobbly goop and has absolutely no truth or senserity to the
BS speewed forth."

Oh, come on. This guy rode three energy companies into the toilet, trashed the Texas Rangers (traded Sammy Sosa, lone dissenting vote against current wildcard system), got a C-Average in college, and Tweety is JUST NOW figuring out he's a FAILURE?

EPIC. FAIL.

Tweety tries to be fair...but it is clear that he is unbalanced.

The real reason for all this hackery on tv is there are no trained journalists anymore. Most of these talking heads are politicians or worked in politics.

The rest are hacks that don't understand the history of media, the purpose of journalism, don't know how to conduct an investigation, can't speak, can't write, can't report.

How many remember Desert Storm...Wolf Blitzer "made" his career from it...he wanted to be on the front lines, but when the bombiing started, he basically wet himself and got himself shipped back home.

Guitar Man @ 87:

They didn't care about dividing or uniting.

PNAC

They wanted to invade Iraq long before 911.

They asked Clinton to attack Iraq.

What they needed was a catalyst, it says that right in the PNAC "charter". They got it with 911.

I don't know if the reason was simply to make money or what, but the attack on 911 was their ticket to invading Iraq.

They all knew it as soon as it happened. Then came the piecing together of the case to invade.

Then selling it to a public that was still in shock, and they bought it lock, stock and barrel.

I remember actually having some respect for Bush immediately after 911 (from a lifelong Democrat), but I was a little nervous of his declaration of a "war on terror".

I was all for going after Bin Laden, but (even before I knew anything about PNAC) I thought something smelled wrong in the run up to invading Iraq.

In the aftermath of that is basically when I "found out about" C&L and all the information out there for anyone to find, and my desire to learn about this stuff grew.

Now I'm a "political junkie", but I can't help it.

Peace everybody.

the Pnac website was down for a while now it is back up
http://www.newamericancentury.org/

dw @ 5:

it's a great comment.

Agreed, for today. Tomorrow, look for him to fawn over Palin or some other such nonsense.

Has he been taking his meds regularly?

Read this letter sent to Clinton in 1998: http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm

Once half of the signers of this letter were given positions in the Bush administration, an invasion of Iraq was inevitable. The only question was when. 9/11 provided the when.

tyler82 @ 81:

Huuuaaahhh! One of the many personalities of Chris Matthews.

Indeed. You're never alone with a schizophrenic.

Professor Juan Cole (Matthews needs to have him on his program) to talk about Iran
Juan takes Palin out on National Security
http://www.juancole.com/

Dude, don't bring Gore into this discussion since it may not have turned out so differently from Bush. Remember, Gore was part of the Iraq Liberation Group, he signed onto it, and was very hawkish on Iraq. Also, he had Lieberman on his ticket, and it's incredibly hard to tell the difference between him and Cheney. So be careful when you're trying to make it sound as if Gore would have been better, it may not have turned out as rosy as a lot of people make it out to be...

Kathleen @ 75:

IdiotShrub @ 71:

Chris Matthews is an enigma and an opportunist. For all these years he has breathlessly heaped lavish praise on the figurine named Boosh. All of a sudden, at the 11th hour before a decisive election that will toss the GOPervets to the curb like the trash that they are, he has this great epiphany and is now seeming to atone for the errors of his ways, as though we are all fools to just forget all of his shameless fawning and theatrics on behalf of the GOP, for years! Thanks for whatever semblance of "honesty" he may bring to the fore at this late point, but I for one, will never forget his dishonesty.

that is a lie

No, it is not.

"You have obviously not been watching Chris Matthews the last five years."

Odd you should choose the last five years to judge Tweety on. He was almost sexual in his slobbering over Commander Codpiece George W Bush when he landed on the deck of the USS Mission Accomplished in that little flightsuit costume just a little more than five years ago.

Matthews was unquestionably part of the media drumbeat for war that got us INTO this mess, and has

not, as far as I'm aware, ever owned up to that.

I will agree he did not ask hard enough questions before the invasion. But he did have some of the intelligence fabricators on before the invasion and pounded them. I am telling you when he realized how badly he was duped he got it and began pounding even harder. He has been ripping into Cheney , Addington, Hadley, Wolfowitz, Bolton etc specifically. People make very serious mistakes and they should get pounded for those (matthews) but when people learn from their stupid and serious mistakes lets give them some credit. This is not a recent development on Matthews part.

I won't disagree with that....Tweety is doing penance for his past sins now, so credit where credit is due. I do definitely have a big problem with the long list of previously reliable GOP MSM shills who have been jumping ship just the last few months though....where is the accountability for the lives lost as a direct result of their oh so clever little parlor propaganda games?

"He divided us, and I'm still not sure why....."

Oh, you know why, Chris, you know why .

People told me Matthews does a fair share of bashing Republicans (and Bush) as well as Democrats on his show.

So a few years back I started to watch.

It quickly became clear to me that Chris Matthews DOES bash Republicans as well as Democrats...but he does his Democrat bashing during ELECTION years and his Republican bashing after the elections are over, after his Democrat bashing has accomplished its goal of helping Republicans win those elections.

Same with his Bush bashing and this is a perfect example.

Nice of Matthews to glory in what a terrific, courageous, "Atticus Finch" style leader George W. Bush was in the months before he would be relected and then suddenly recognize and announce what a fuck up Bush is now that he's got one foot in Crawford retirement.

I blame myself for missing a key detail. All of the people who insisted Matthews was "fair and balanced" in his political Party bashing were Republicans who, naturally, loved the way Matthews scheduled and timed his bashing to help Republicans get elected.

TravisInTexas @ 98:

Read this letter sent to Clinton in 1998: http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm

Once half of the signers of this letter were given positions in the Bush administration, an invasion of Iraq was inevitable. The only question was when. 9/11 provided the when.

If you read Rebuilding America's Defenses (was trying to send everyone I know to read this years ago) you can follow the plan for regime change in the middle east. They sure did not keep the plan secret

Dutton Peabody @ 83:

Sarah Palin…“knows more about energy than probably anyone else in the United States of America.”-

John Mc Cain

...when asked about security ... very telling statement actually:
War = Oil.

BigIslandDave @ 102:

Kathleen @ 75:

IdiotShrub @ 71:

Chris Matthews is an enigma and an opportunist. For all these years he has breathlessly heaped lavish praise on the figurine named Boosh. All of a sudden, at the 11th hour before a decisive election that will toss the GOPervets to the curb like the trash that they are, he has this great epiphany and is now seeming to atone for the errors of his ways, as though we are all fools to just forget all of his shameless fawning and theatrics on behalf of the GOP, for years! Thanks for whatever semblance of "honesty" he may bring to the fore at this late point, but I for one, will never forget his dishonesty.

that is a lie

No, it is not.

Nope...it's the truth...tweety is a shameless hack. He can tell the tide is turning and wants to be on the winning side.
What an asshat.

BigIslandDave @ 102:

Kathleen @ 75:

IdiotShrub @ 71:

Chris Matthews is an enigma and an opportunist. For all these years he has breathlessly heaped lavish praise on the figurine named Boosh. All of a sudden, at the 11th hour before a decisive election that will toss the GOPervets to the curb like the trash that they are, he has this great epiphany and is now seeming to atone for the errors of his ways, as though we are all fools to just forget all of his shameless fawning and theatrics on behalf of the GOP, for years! Thanks for whatever semblance of "honesty" he may bring to the fore at this late point, but I for one, will never forget his dishonesty.

that is a lie

he has been ripping into Cheney, Wolfowitz, Addington, Bolton, Ledeen, Hadley and others for years now

No, it is not.

If no one could fail anyworse than boosh failed,

Does that mean he's finally succeeded?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3IQTjOMewg

iraqconcilable @ 104:

"He divided us, and I'm still not sure why....."

Oh, you know why, Chris, you know why .

This is typical Tweety bullshit.

It is why he is unwatchable.

liberalNmoderation @ 14:

“It is impossible to fail as much as this President has.”
If McBain and Palin steal the election, you will see new depths of failure that would make Bush seem like a goddamn genius.

You are right but that is really frightening, we have lost so much ground in too many areas so the question is, CAN ANYONE GET US BACK TO A POSITION OF HONOR AND RESPECT, CAN WE RECOVER ?????????????????????

Jay Severin Has A Small Pen1s @ 4:

I've said it before and it needs repeating.

The Bush Administration has failed INTENTIONALLY so they could dismantle big government.

They failed on the war because a longer war means more profiteering.

And the American people failed because they let it happen.

Exactly!!!

liberalNmoderation @ 108:

BigIslandDave @ 102:

Kathleen @ 75:

IdiotShrub @ 71:

that is a lie

You can keep your head up where the sun does not shine on the fact that Matthews has ripping into the zealots for years now, but that does not change the facts.

No, it is not.

Nope...it's the truth...tweety is a shameless hack. He can tell the tide is turning and wants to be on the winning side.
What an asshat.

OMG! The women on The View just chewed McCain and spit him out.(Sans Hasslebeck of course)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/12/mccain-grilled-on-the-vie_n_125...

"I don"t know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don"t care. It"s not that important. It"s not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

"I am truly not that concerned about him."- G.W. Bush, repsonding to a question about bin Laden"s whereabouts,
3/13/02 (The New American, 4/8/02)

constituent @ 92:

Dutton Peabody @ 83:

Sarah Palin…“knows more about energy than probably anyone else in the United States of America.”-

John Mc Cain

and that was a response to being asked about her national security experience...i understand the connection but it's a stretch.
palin is like bush and mccain they won't be what they say there aren't hands on they are let the lobbyists do
the work where do i sign. palin is NOT an intellect neither is mccain

Is this who mcgramps wants as secretary of defense?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ab6LWXeNDA

Dutton Peabody @ 83:

Sarah Palin…“knows more about energy than probably anyone else in the United States of America.”-

John Mc Cain

AND mCcAIN KNOWS MORE ABOUT LYING THAN JUST ABOUT ANYONE ELSE, WELL MAYBE NOT HIS CAMPAIGN STAFF, tHESE POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS ARE BECOMING A SICK JOKE, FORGET WHAT IS REALLY GOOD FOR COUNTRY, ITS ALL ABOUT GETTING ELECTED ANY WAY YOU CAN.WE ARE IN DEEP DO DO, FOLKS1

I saw this segment live, and immediately after trashing neo-cons, Tweety defended McCain's role in the whole Iraq debacle. Rachel pointed out that McCain was pushing for us to go after Iraq the DAY AFTER 9/11, but Tweety would have nothing of it. He basically said he wasn't going to hold McCain to the same standard that he holds the rest of the neo-cons because McCain is a veteran. So no matter how destructive the policy is, McCain will get a pass. You should play that part. That was the newsworthy part.

Kathleen @ 114:

liberalNmoderation @ 108:

BigIslandDave @ 102:

Kathleen @ 75:

You can keep your head up where the sun does not shine on the fact that Matthews has ripping into the zealots for years now, but that does not change the facts.

No, it is not.

Nope...it's the truth...tweety is a shameless hack. He can tell the tide is turning and wants to be on the winning side.
What an asshat.

Tweety has cock-mouth.
He only comes up for air so as not to spill the load.

liberalNmoderation @ 108:

BigIslandDave @ 102:

Kathleen @ 75:

IdiotShrub @ 71:

that is a lie

No, it is not.

Nope...it's the truth...tweety is a shameless hack. He can tell the tide is turning and wants to be on the winning side.
What an asshat.

Check this out! :

Matthews: Neocons ‘May Be Right’ When They Say Bush ‘Has To Hit’ Iran»

After the fall of Baghdad, MSNBC's Chris Matthews declared, "We're all neocons now."

PNY @ 39:

OT for a sec: Anybody know where Ann Coulter has been this election season?

I think the reich wing have been afraid to let Coulter get anywhere near a camera because they know she's the most likely of all of them to let the N-bomb fly out of her retched pie hole. They have her locked in a celler somewhere until after the election.

Jay Severin Has A Small Pen1s @ 4:

I've said it before and it needs repeating.

The Bush Administration has failed INTENTIONALLY so they could dismantle big government.

They failed on the war because a longer war means more profiteering.

And the American people failed because they let it happen.

The anti-government Norquist nutcases got their wish. The supreme court installed Bush. In the history of western civilization, no one has been more successful than Bush at being an abject failure at his every endeavor.

Bush Administration

war(s) signing statements bush tax breaks
oil cheney GOD
quagmire 10billion to pakistan bailouts
spending voter fraud TORTURE
pet goat AWOL ignore legislative
yellow cake Libby bush DUI
deficit redact alcoholic
scott mcClellan Patriot Act addington
foreclosure Georgia SHOP

G- Dub is NOT a failure.

I repeat NOT a failure.

He and cronies have bilked the Treasury for BILLIONS.

We might never know if he is truly as dumb as he seems.

But what is the difference. He is an arch criminal that has gotten away with his crimes.

Chris Mathews is babbling at the end of Bush tenure. Where was Mathews during and after 9/11? Why was he not reporting the facts to the people? Mathews, you are equally to blame for the war in iraq.

My analysis: Iraq was a troublesome nation to the neighboring emirates and to Israel. If only you heard the stories from the iraqi citizens, you would realize that Iraq was ruled by a dictator and needed to go. If the defensive strategy changed to iraq, Mathews, there is a legitimate reason for that move.

I wanted the war just to get Hussein out of the nation. Oil is a factor and needed to be guarded from the neighbors and Russia.
Who do we blame for 9/11? I believe that media should take the blame along with others.

Well, Tweety, even a blind hog finds an acorn every once in awhile.

ysbaddaden @ 110:

If no one could fail anyworse than boosh failed,

Does that mean he's finally succeeded?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3IQTjOMewg

Now that is a deep philosophical question. Such zen-like perfection of wrongness surely cannot be surpassed. I offer a Koan on this subject: Can the floating turd rise higher?

jwf @ 124:

Jay Severin Has A Small Pen1s @ 4:

I've said it before and it needs repeating.

The Bush Administration has failed INTENTIONALLY so they could dismantle big government.

They failed on the war because a longer war means more profiteering.

And the American people failed because they let it happen.

The anti-government Norquist nutcases got their wish. The supreme court installed Bush. In the history of western civilization, no one has been more successful than Bush at being an abject failure at his every endeavor.

the mccain sends a representative of their campaign once a week to norquist meetins in wahington,d.c. for
talking points/info.

Jay Severin Has A Small Pen1s @ 4:

I've said it before and it needs repeating.

The Bush Administration has failed INTENTIONALLY so they could dismantle big government.

They failed on the war because a longer war means more profiteering.

And the American people failed because they let it happen.

I completely agree.

Kathleen @ 74:

ThunderMonkey @ 68:

Kathleen @ 59:

jeff @ 55:

Hello he has been consistently hammering on the regime change radicals.

Hello he is supposed to challenge all sides on other issues.

I agree with Rachel and Olberman but they do not challenge my thinking. Matthews does and is supposed to.

Like I'm thinking "Where the hell has this guy been for the past eight years?" Didn't Matthews get all warm and fuzzy, and gushed like a little schoolgirl when admiring Bush's cod piece when Bush landed on the aircraft carrier.

The problem with Matthews is that he's a leaf... following whatever blow that carries him from point A to point B.

Rachel, Keith, Thom Hartman, Randi Rhodes have all challenged me not to take anything for granted and that all sides of the issue must be viewed for a better story. They may not challenge my thinking, but they certainly provide the road map for me to follow, if I choose to do so.

Yes matthews pisses me off. But there is no way around his pounding of the intelligence fabricators. He has pounded them hard. You can keep your head up where the sun does not shine and generalize matthews coverage but you are flat fucking wrong.

He didn't challenge the "intelligence fabricators" in the beginning... not like some of the other I mentioned. Only when the evidence seemed to be overwhelming Matthews was like... "Hey... this is wrong." If he did... then kudos to him, but in the time I've been watching him on a semi-regular basis he rarely sticks his neck out unless he knows he's going to come out on top.

Look, back in 2005 Matthews was willing to accuse Joseph Wilson of making up the allegations that the White House systematically outed his wife, by taking comments from Wilson out of context. That doesn't show me someone who was involved in the "pounding of intelligence fabricators." Unless, you count that Matthews thought Wilson was making up intelligence... so on that point Matthews was pretty consistent.

Matthews was a pretty good cheerleader for the war back in 2005 (regardless of intelligence or not), only as of late he seems to be backing off that stance. (Hence my leaf-blowing comment).

I seem to recall an exultant, homo-erotic Mathews raving about how commanding and presidential this "failure" was after landing on an aircraft carrier and peacocking around the deck in a flightsuit.

Trust me Tweety, it's more than possible to fail more than Bush. When President Palin takes office you'll see.

Respectfully, perhaps the neo-cons weren't so big on the idea of chasing those who attacked us because those who attacked us work for us.

Folks, the new threats from Venezuela with Russian bombers is like Palin saying "I have the experience, this war is all about energy." LOL.

Who do you blame? Is it U.S. for instigating to take over the oil fields of Chavez or the Russians wanting to protect the latino oil fields?

Either way, Russians will be all over the map starting from Georgia, Iran, latinos, Syria, etc.

hotmouth @ 121:

liberalNmoderation @ 108:

BigIslandDave @ 102:

Kathleen @ 75:

No, it is not.

Nope...it's the truth...tweety is a shameless hack. He can tell the tide is turning and wants to be on the winning side.
What an asshat.

Check this out! :

Matthews: Neocons ‘May Be Right’ When They Say Bush ‘Has To Hit’ Iran»

After the fall of Baghdad, MSNBC's Chris Matthews declared, "We're all neocons now."

I hope you are hearing me, I do not agree with Matthews on many issues but I have witnessed him hammer Kristol, Cheney (who will not come on his program) David Frum, John BOlton and other right wing zealots for years now for at least five years. Why in the hell do you think they lumped Olberman and Matthews together. The Fox crew what these guys taken out.

I hope he brings Flynt Leverett, Scott Ritter, and Juan Cole on to discuss Iran. Matthews and other MSMers can be encouraged and pushed.

Here is when Matthews put returning Iraqi soldiers on
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6728883/

Can't find clips of him taking out Frum, Kristol etc. The left generally does not like to bring attention to when Matthews has been hammering the warmongers

Dutton Peabody @ 83:

Sarah Palin…“knows more about energy than probably anyone else in the United States of America.”-

John Mc Cain

I've been waiting for someone to refute this absurd piece of bull****, but so far I've heard nothing. McCain and Palin terrify me. To think this woman could shape this Country with her nominations to the SCOTUS is something that we should all consider wisely. We should be careful what we wish for. Palin/McCain might give us more than we bargained for.

dosido @ 131:

Jay Severin Has A Small Pen1s @ 4:

I've said it before and it needs repeating.

The Bush Administration has failed INTENTIONALLY so they could dismantle big government.

They failed on the war because a longer war means more profiteering.

And the American people failed because they let it happen.

I completely agree.

this is what Jessie Ventura was saying at the Ron Paul convention in Minnesota

JudyLou @ 128:

Well, Tweety, even a blind hog finds an acorn every once in awhile.

Ah yes...but does this blind hog wear lipstick?

sorry, couldn't resist....

missmarple @ 137:

Dutton Peabody @ 83:

Sarah Palin…“knows more about energy than probably anyone else in the United States of America.”-

John Mc Cain

I've been waiting for someone to refute this absurd piece of bull****, but so far I've heard nothing. McCain and Palin terrify me. To think this woman could shape this Country with her nominations to the SCOTUS is something that we should all consider wisely. We should be careful what we wish for. Palin/McCain might give us more than we bargained for.

go read Juan Coles latest about Palin, energy and foreign policy
http://www.juancole.com/

Alice X - (Chomsky Nader) - status quObama - change you can pretend in - @ 126:

G- Dub is NOT a failure.

I repeat NOT a failure.

He and cronies have bilked the Treasury for BILLIONS.

We might never know if he is truly as dumb as he seems.

But what is the difference. He is an arch criminal that has gotten away with his crimes.

Agreed, ass much as we all may despise him.

He has failed to uphold his oath of office. But that was never important to his masters anyway.

Like it or not, we as the supposed bosses of our elected officials, are the failures here.

liberalNmoderation @ 139:

JudyLou @ 128:

Well, Tweety, even a blind hog finds an acorn every once in awhile.

Ah yes...but does this blind hog wear lipstick?

sorry, couldn't resist....

Like a drunken trollop on a streetcar trying to apply makeup.

On the lighter side: I had visited David Corn's website and was surprised to see that Corn is still chewing on Plamegate fiasco. He is still in the past and has not moved forward. I hope Mathews can wake him up a bit.

Kathleen @ 136:

hotmouth @ 121:

liberalNmoderation @ 108:

BigIslandDave @ 102:

Nope...it's the truth...tweety is a shameless hack. He can tell the tide is turning and wants to be on the winning side.
What an asshat.

Check this out! :

Matthews: Neocons ‘May Be Right’ When They Say Bush ‘Has To Hit’ Iran»

After the fall of Baghdad, MSNBC's Chris Matthews declared, "We're all neocons now."

I hope you are hearing me, I do not agree with Matthews on many issues but I have witnessed him hammer Kristol, Cheney (who will not come on his program) David Frum, John BOlton and other right wing zealots for years now for at least five years. Why in the hell do you think they lumped Olberman and Matthews together. The Fox crew what these guys taken out.

I hope he brings Flynt Leverett, Scott Ritter, and Juan Cole on to discuss Iran. Matthews and other MSMers can be encouraged and pushed.

Here is when Matthews put returning Iraqi soldiers on
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6728883/

Can't find clips of him taking out Frum, Kristol etc. The left generally does not like to bring attention to when Matthews has been hammering the warmongers

We hear ya Kathleen, and sure he has, on occasion, been moderately supportive of those who aren't neo-cons, but more often than not, he seems to play their game.
He seems to be on whichever side is the most popular.

ot...this is video of the short interview of mccain on palin
national security experience....is energy this guy was firm
with mccain

http://www.wcsh6.com/video/default.aspx?maven_playerId=immersiveplayer&m...

ysbaddaden @ 142:

liberalNmoderation @ 139:

JudyLou @ 128:

Well, Tweety, even a blind hog finds an acorn every once in awhile.

Ah yes...but does this blind hog wear lipstick?

sorry, couldn't resist....

Like a drunken trollop on a streetcar trying to apply makeup.

Hehehehe...trollop....

when I challenged Matthews at the Libby trial (yes Matthews talks to peasants) I reminded him that soon after the storm that he had said "katrina wiped the scab off of racism and poverty in our nation". I then asked him why MSNBC had barely touched the katrina aftermath a month after the storm. How they had helped put the scab back on. I also asked him why MSNBC never touches the Israeli lobby or the Israeli Palestinian conflict (I all ready know why but thought I would ask anyway). Matthews replied "I do not control the programming"

When I asked Rachel at the Dem Convention why don't they take the cameras on the streets to hear what the American voters have to say instead of David Gregory's, Pat Buchanan, Rachel Maddow's, Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermans etc endless rehashing of campaign issues for the last two years. Her response "we do not control the cameras or the programming"

Is Matthews a broadcasting horror? Obviously. Will Matthews, Olberman, and Maddow and others try to inject their own perspectives. You bet

What do I want. Facts, accurate coverage and wider scopes for those cameras on issues that really matter

jwf @ 124:

Jay Severin Has A Small Pen1s @ 4:

I've said it before and it needs repeating.

The Bush Administration has failed INTENTIONALLY so they could dismantle big government.

They failed on the war because a longer war means more profiteering.

And the American people failed because they let it happen.

The anti-government Norquist nutcases got their wish. The supreme court installed Bush. In the history of western civilization, no one has been more successful than Bush at being an abject failure at his every endeavor.

“It is impossible to fail as much as this President has.”

I admire Mathew's insight, spunk and hopefulness, but I think that he does misunderestimate the determination of the Christian Right (Rapture Seeking/Dominionist), anti-Government (Norquitians), corporate, crisis profiteering, war-mongering core of the GOP - the GOP from which the critical thinking and/or moderate conservatives with a conscience have fled. Bigger, better and more spectacular failure is not only possible but predictable. Easily predictable. Easily. Predictable.

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