"The View" part 2: McCain grilled on deceitful ads
By SilentPatriot Thursday Sep 11, 2008 6:00pm
I wonder if McCain was expecting a soft-ball interview today on "The View" because he sure didn't get one. Joy Behar and Barbara Walter grill McCain on how he could possibly approve of ads that are so riddle with distortions and outright falsehoods.
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"There are ads running from your campaign... Now we know that those two ads are untrue, they are lies. And yet, you say at the end of it you 'approve these messages.' Do you really approve these?"
Who would have thought the ladies of "The View" could be so hard-hitting?:
CNN: McCain Gets Grilled on The View.
Republican nominee Sen. John McCain, appearing Friday on ABC's "The View," was aggressively pressed on Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's qualifications to be vice president as well as his new campaign ads that several independent fact-check groups have called misleading...read on
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Why isn't the professional news media doing this?
I just heard a McCain/Palin ad on the radio here in Albuquerque promising stem cell research and millions of dollars spent to make everyone healthy.
Excuse me? Palin is a staunch "right to lifer" that opposes stem cell research as does Steve Pearce.
These are blatant lies concealed in feel-good ads with nice, inspiring music and a warm, "trustworthy" narrator.
Talk about a wolf in sheep's clothing.
Again, where is the news media? Is it "fair and balanced" when you allow lies to be accepted as fact because you're trying to be "objective."
Facts don't lie. From what I can see, Republicans do.
He looked visibly uncomfortable being calling on his bs.
"Who would have thought the ladies of 'The View' could be so hard-hitting?"
Whoopi. I love how she just sat back and did her best to keep from dying of suppressed laughter.
"was aggressively pressed"
This is why the MSM fails. Asking honest questions and calling something what it is is considered 'aggressive'
Published on Friday, September 12, 2008 by The Guardian/UK
The World's Verdict Will Be Harsh if the US Rejects the Man It Yearns For
An America that disdains Obama for his global support risks turning current anti-Bush feeling into something far worse
by Jonathan Freedland
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2008/09/12-1
This whole article is fantastic; I wish I could post all of it. Here is the ending two paragraphs:
"For America to make a decision as grave as this one - while the planet boils and with the US fighting two wars - on the trivial basis that a hockey mom is likable and seems down to earth, would be to convey a lack of seriousness, a fleeing from reality, that does indeed suggest a nation in, to quote Weisberg, "historical decline". Let's not forget, McCain's campaign manager boasts that this election is "not about the issues."
Of course I know that even to mention Obama's support around the world is to hurt him. Incredibly, that large Berlin crowd damaged Obama at home, branding him the "candidate of Europe" and making him seem less of a patriotic American. But what does that say about today's America, that the world's esteem is now unwanted? If Americans reject Obama, they will be sending the clearest possible message to the rest of us - and, make no mistake, we shall hear it."
I honestly have more respect for some of the ladies on "The View". They were bold and fearless.
P.S. Did you notice how Elizabeth did not have anything to contribute?
McShame figured putting a woman (any woman) on the ticket would win him the adoration of every woman in the country. He just doesn't get it. Stupid old putz.
conmen double-speak
mcfuckhead is double-speaking
so deeply that his cheeks are hitting
the sides of his sigmoid-process.
on the view he had the gaul to tell
the people he would not override
rove vs wade and in the same sentence
say he will put justices on the sc bench
who will do just that.......FUCK THIS BASTARD LIAR.
He said that the ads were true. WTF!
How can you say he thought that any woman would have brought all the Hillary supporters to him?
Bring back Rosie!
I have a confession to make. I have not volunteered for Obama. I've given money, (quite a bit) and I'm not done yet. But I can't canvass...and I can't make phone calls. I have a disability.
Oh, I'm sorry..an inability. I can't control my temper when dealing with these pigs anymore. I can't keep my blood from boiling, and I can't be civil. When I'm around them at work, (doctors, of all people) I bite my tongue to keep my position at the hospital. If I had to call them, I know I couldn't be civil. I couldn't be polite. I'd bread down and ask them how could they be so fucking stupid!!
So hearing John McCain, just now on this clip, really just about set me over the edge. They fucking lie, and then lie again, to make the first lie they said seem even less preposterous. I want these bastards removed from our country. I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS ELECTION IS SLIPPING AWAY AGAIN!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!
abiodun @ 6:
I didn't see the View or doubt I would've watched but what would Elizabeth H. have asked anyway? She might spout GOP talking points but original thoughts, doubtful. I suspect that anything she might've said would have been "softball" at any rate. Good on them and I hope the MSM is PAYING ATTENTION!
abiodun @ 6:
Other than gushing that she was voting for him and then whimpering in her baby-doll voice that she was still going to ask him a tough question, (with no follow-up, I might add). I truly do not understand why she is still on that show. She adds nothing.
it's time to really start going after mccain's character. is it the polite thing to do? no. but in a national presidential election, with the future of this country at stake, it's absolutely necessary to vet him to the fullest and bring his numerous potential flaws to the attention of the american people, who will decide this election.
why does mccain http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioy90nF2anI?
even if you believe presidents need to lie, can we not all agree mccain is an extremely poor liar? he might fool nash mccabe, but will he be able to outduel vladimir putin, (who is now openly mocking bush's puppet presidency through western media)?
could it be mccain's so senile he just doesn't even realize he's contradicting himself one minute to the next?
does mccain really hold his wife in such low regard he called her a c*nt in public on more than one occasion?
does mccain really take the institution of marriage so lightly, he cheated on his first wife to be with cindy, and then on cindy to be with vicki?
was mccain really so hotheaded and reckless a pilot he managed to crash five navy planes?
was mccain really so dimwitted and/or undisciplined a student he finished fifth from the bottom in his class of over 800?
is mccain really so spineless he couldn't even defend his own family from the bush/rove hatchet job in SC in 2000?
see what i'm saying? all of these questions are relevant to whether or not this man is fit for command...
CMINCA @ 5:
One more quote: "If Americans choose McCain, they will be turning their back on the rest of the world, choosing to show us four more years of the Bush-Cheney finger. And I predict a deeply unpleasant shift."
Gotta love Joy & Whoopi
I know it seems like I have tourettes syndrome, but it is important we put McCain/Palin completely on the defense.
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I used to hate these type of shows. As a Veteran, I salute these bold women who had the balls to question this lying liar and his cunt {Cindy and Sarah}Nobody besides Olbermann has the nuts to question these assholes who will drive our world to Armageddon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*second paragraph of my above comment should read:
why does mccain keep lying?
Senator Obama chooses his words very carefully, and he shouldn't have said it?
I guess that implies that Johnny doesn't pick his words carefully, and therefore, it's OK for him to say anything he wants.
Temper, temper, little boy.
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/98465/mccain%27s_distortions%3A_i%27...
Ad by BraveNewPC debunking McCain's lies.
Palin: OK, I Didn't Quite Say "Thanks, But No Thanks"
Liars.
Wow the same program discussing whether the Earth is flat or not, throws some hardballs at McCain. And all he can do is respond with more bs lies and distortions
Good job ladies. This is what the news media should be doing
RancidVenison @ 19:
This is their latest ad nauseam talking point: "Obama is well-scripted"; "Obama's message is well-rehearsed"; "Obama chooses his words very carefully". Bullshit. How about Obama is an intelligent and articulate man.
sooooooooooo because Obama "chooses his words very carefully", "he shouldn't have said" lipstick on a pig, but McCain can? why? 'cause McCain doesn't choose his words carefully? the double standards of his unbelievable campaign just make me sick to my effing stomach. just bloody ridiculous!
it's not dirty politics to illustrate mccain's bad character by highlighting his own words and deeds.
dirty politics would be telling everyone mccain hired a nazi skinhead to run his campaign, which isn't true, as far as i know...
I know McCain is thinking that a VP doesn't really do anything and when he becomes president he'll get these pesky right-wing radical Christians off his back and hide Sarah in Cheney's bunker, but that isn't going to be the case. They expect a lot in return for their support and his staff of lobbyists also expect a substantial return on their investment. McCain just sold America out. Not Blue America, but ALL of America.
nycbassist @ 12:
I feel your pain; I'm the same way. Given money but I can't talk to them anymore. The worst part is I'm a teacher and I have to listen to the children of these moron republicans parrot what they've heard their parents say at home AND I CAN'T SAY A THING ABOUT IT. So I'm not only seeing the idiots around me but watching their children grow into the next generation of idiots and I'm powerless to open their eyes without running the risk of being fired.
This is why I drink.
Candidate: "...this is a tough campaign.."
Translation: "...I'm a scumbag and I know it..."
I like how McCain is trying to use Obama's thoughtful manner of speaking against him:
"...he chooses his words very carefully..." --therefore anything he says that could be twisted to be construed as an attack is intentional! Bonehead revolt!
What a scumbag.
Yeah Obama chooses his words very carefully and thats why its only logical to assume he was trying to commit political suicide by calling Sarah Palin a pig
Not even Republicans are that stupid. They know exactly what he meant
Barbara Walters. There's an "s" on the end.
RancidVenison @ 20:
exactly. joy should have countered mccain's "sen obama is very careful with his words" with "and you're not?".
you want to talk being careful about choice of words. palin is obviously NOT ready. she was asked
if she traveled to foreign countries and what foreign leaders she has met. did she give orders to
alaska national guard....listen closely she's lying and trying to avoid specific/nuance
http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/53029-count-the-facts-sarah-palin-gets-dea...
Why is it that the only "journalists" asking the Cons tough questions are always the people who aren't real journalists?
joy could have also said "yes, sen obama is careful with his choice of words and his record doesnt bear any disrespect for sarah palin. he even said palin's daughter should be spared the media hoopla. he has always been respectful. he doesnt have your (mccain's) history of nasty behavior."
Alright, who pushed the margin way to the right on this thread?
Pari @ 1:
From my standpoint both parties are panderers. Two wings of the War Party.
As for professional journalists, they are in the bag.
They are professional alright… whores!
constituent @ 33:
and she seems to get aggressive when pinned down.
Can we get the ladies from the View the be in charge of the debates? They are the only fair and balanced people out there. Well, them and Stewart and Colbert.
"Sen. Obama chooses his words very carefully." THAT is a scripted answer. They've been working on that one. It's like "have you stopped beating your wife." Are we going to say, No, Obama DOESN'T choose his words carefully???
A propos of this:
http://open.salon.com/content.php?cid=17293
This quote about the flipflops is the perfect lead-in for an Obama ad. Show McCain saying no one can ever give an example of him flipping, followed by example after example. The Daily Show has already done half the work.
CMINCA @ 27:
the role of the vice president changed during the carter
administration.....you and i both know biden is going to work his but off. palin does NOT have the tools to work
with consultants on the federal/national level. she'll just
be told what to do.....listen'watch the video i posted
she is obviously trying to get by. many don't agree Palin is the weakest link that is why she is getting attention from the likes of us. you don't hear anything fromthe right regarding biden......nothing he's not the
evolutionary weakest link it's Palin and it has nothing to do with her gender everything to do with her reality
CMINCA @ 14:
she reminds me of a chihuahua when she speaks - no offense to chihuahuas, but she usually just rattles off so fast u can't even make sense of her nonsense. i'm waiting for the day that a celebrity comes out and calls her out about talking about michelle obama at the rncc, since babs obviously hasn't.
CMINCA @ 23:
How about both?
It was scripted a bit, but almost any speaker needs bullet notes (even if you've done the same one thirty times) to stay on time/avoid getting too tangential.
Me, I prefer someone who has some idea of what the f@ck one is getting into before getting into it (and it's pro'lly more important for a President(-ial candidate) then for most of us), ya know?
He knew exactly what he was saying, and he was saying it on-the-fly in a way that no rational human on earth could construe as being directed toward Palin.
Alas, we run into the problem of so many people thinking they are being rational while they're simply rationalizing.
Karen @ 41:
will you please get on their payroll. your comments have been spot on for some time
Cum awwwwnn, what is rong with yeeuuuuu folks.
If uuuuwwwww believed in Jesuuss,
Yew would be ashaaaaaaaaaaaaaamed our your selves.
Don't ya'll worry about that OLD, nearly dead, white haired guy, just BELIVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEv!
Amen!
PALIN, SHE is what ya'll should be votin' for.
Don't ya see it, can't ya feel it, YA NEED ME TO HIT YOU IN THE HEAD WITH IT.
Vote: PALIN/McCain (don't worry, he'll end up dead) and WE'LL make this country the best damn
THEOCRACY the world has ever seen.
Forget the View. Please, please, please watch this potential ad for the Obama campaign that is on the Alternet site:
Hey Obama Campaign, Have You Seen This?
Posted by tremayne, Open Left at 9:50 AM on September 12, 2008.
If you know somebody in the Obama campaign or somebody close to somebody important in the Obama campaign, please send them the link to this video and see if they can't edit something shorter and air it: http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/98581/hey_obama_campaign%2C_have_you...
Sarah Palin said two things which can be pegs for an attack ad of this kind:
1. War with Russia could happen over the Georgia conflict
2. Soldiers going to Iraq are fighting the people who killed thousands of Americans on Sept. 11.
The Obama camp needs to launch a fresh, timely attack that will make the McCain campaign splutter. This is it.
Get the word out.
Obama chooses his words carefully? Kind of like "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?" Like that joke you told, McDick? You're nothing but a turd that can't be polished. I can't wait for Obama to be on the View. I think the first thing he should do is turn to Elizabeth Hasselbeck, or whatever the hell her name is, and say "By the way, my wife says you can jump up her butt and look around. And see if she's hiding anything."
constituent @ 45:
Already an ad; see my link at post #21.
CMINCA @ 14:
She adds a lot of blondness and really white teeth.
masha @ 38:
you know body language that's a guarded and lying look
totally up tight ....the word is she is agressive if she doesn't get her way much like mccain. she's not ready to converse with with federal/national consultants.
she tried to avoid questions Never met a foreign leader
in the last 30 yrs. every v.p. candidate has. when asked about national security...went to the energy card.
even the complexity of energy is nothing she has experienced. this is the weakest link....the mccain
campaign wants us to leave her alone. they tried to
develop a shield.......
galmud @ 30:
Case in point. Thank you, galmud.
constituent @ 51:
But, but she was coached by Lieberman.
K.O. is going to kick some ass tonight.
saturday night live could be fun tomorrow night
I think they're working together to help take this country back.
I've been impressed recently by the number of times the media DID take McCain, Palin and the McCain Campaign to task for their deceit.
I've seen them called LIARS more than once.
The Press has taken a lot of hits for their recent delinquency.
I think there is a sense of desperation setting in on ALL Americans - the Press included.
It's time to throw the PIRATES overboard and take back the Ship Of State!
Let a passing Venezuelan vessel pick them up and deliver them to the Hague!
CMINCA @ 27:
McCain isn't taking his own mortality into account. He'll be close to 76 years old at the end of this term as president. Does he really believe that she could go from doing nothing to being the "leader of the free world". Lotsa stuff happens to people around his age like a stroke or Alzheimer's disease. Whatever happens doesn't have to be fatal to be debilitating. How does President Sarah Palin sound to you?
Palin interview:
blah...blah....blah...blah...charlie....blah..blah...charlie
absolutely nothing here if obama gave an interview like this
he would have been laughed out of washington
Would be nice is somebody knew somebody at the View and would get a list of lies, distortions, and flip flops to discuss on the air tomorrow.
Alice X - (Chomsky Nader) - status quObama - change you can pretend in - @ 37:
thats right no dif
now go back and tell uncle karl that you did your job...give him his happy ending and collect your paycheck
i hear you people on the radio too...all the alleged reformed dems, who are disgusted at how palin is being treated
fuck those rovian hacks too
Allz I'zz gotsta say iz, Man I love those women. Joy, Babba and Whoopie. Gots ta luv dem women. I'd be really interested in what the repug woman said.
Noah Cross @ 58:
I'm with ya, but I think Monday, maybe...
Did anyone see "Countdown with Keith Olberman" a few minutes ago????
Sarah Palin sealed the election for Obama!!! This is so good. I love it!!!
I just heard an excerpt of the 2nd Sarah Palin interview with Charlie Gibson and Sarah Palin said, "NUKULAR" instead of "Nuclear". HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. A five star imbecile just like the current President. God, when this hits the airways it's going to kill the McCain campaign. I would hope all Americans don't want to hear the word "NUKULAR" ever again!! She's an idiot just like chimp!
Senator Obama chooses his words very carefully, and he shouldn’t have said it?
That's the same crap republican spinners and the press have been using against Dems for years. They especially used it against Clinton, Gore and Kerry. There are no mistakes when you're a Democrat, all is planned and evil, and any subtext you can dream of, no matter how inane must be true. But all is forgiven if you're a republican.
nice ad from Obama today.
McCain can't email.......He can't use a keyboard because of his torture in Vietnam. Man is Obama an idiot or what. Once this hits the news cycle it will be the end of "the One". Criticizing war heros over their injuries....I mean SERIOUSLY??????
someguy @ 64:
Just more unsubstantiated bs coming from the GOP. He' sure can shake hands alot, and he's great at accepting funny money from Corrupt MoFo's. I call bullshit. And next time you spout your bullshit like this provide some back up, like a link.
Otherwise, your words mean nothing.
I want all of you to pay attention to HOW short and TINY mccain is... He is the same size as the one person we should have a President but cant because he is too small... ( Kucinich )..
Look at how pathetic and tiny that old Q-Tip Douche bag is...
someguy @ 64:
How is McCain a War Hero???
A Fucking WAR HERO???
Have you lost your goddamn mind?
Where was McCain's 'flag pin?'
I think McSame showed himself to be himself:
A LYING SNAKE.
No wonder he chose another SNAKE for veep.
Vote Obama.
CMINCA @ 5:
Thanks for that.
I still have difficulty grasping that, as the world has become more interconnected via media, internet, etc, so many people in this country, many of whom weren't of voting age during the Raygun era, still think that they can basically act as "cowboys and Indians" from some bygone Raygun or John Wayne western in these times. I put much of the blame on GWB stretching the schtick out over the last eight years, but jessus f'ing Christ! We're still an integral part of the world that some respect, some fear, and some loathe. If we don't pay attention to how OTHER countries see us and bury our heads in the sand or thumb our noses at the rest of the world (like Raygun and Bush did/do with their false patriotism), this country is doomed.
Did Mac tell the gals . . . "I'm the Super Rich I can afford to lie. You paupers have to tell the truth it's the only thing you can afford." ??
Too bad that the ladies on the view couldn't get him to blow his temper. It looked like he was really close... just a little bit of a shove...
uncle joe mccarthy @ 59:
Excuse me, where do you hear Socialists on the radio, I want to tune in.
The Karl that I know is Marx.
Where were your Democrats when Habeas Corpus went down, when FISA went down, when Torture went down, when the Military Commissions act went down. Every 'war' funding bill passed without a whine. Even since they took control in '06.
Where are your Democrats. They can't call the criminal Republicans out because they are at the same trough.
Take your stinking Democrats and go to hell with the stinking Republicans.
They are both in the pockets of the corporations.
This interview was all good and great, but I think it speaks much more loudly to the corporate media and the job they're (not) doing. When The View is doing the job they should be doing, there's something wrong.
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CMINCA Says:
Published on Friday, September 12, 2008 by The Guardian/UK
The World’s Verdict Will Be Harsh if the US Rejects the Man It Yearns For
An America that disdains Obama for his global support risks turning current anti-Bush feeling into something far worse
by Jonathan Freedland
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2008/09/12-1
------------------------------------
From the article (and sorry off topic)
"Until now, anti-Americanism has been exaggerated and much misunderstood: outside a leftist hardcore, it has mostly been anti-Bushism, opposition to this specific administration. But if McCain wins in November, that might well change. Suddenly Europeans and others will conclude that their dispute is with not only one ruling clique, but Americans themselves. For it will have been the American people, not the politicians, who will have passed up a once-in-a-generation chance for a fresh start - a fresh start the world is yearning for.
And the manner of that decision will matter, too. If it is deemed to have been about race - that Obama was rejected because of his colour - the world's verdict will be harsh. In that circumstance, Slate's Jacob Weisberg wrote recently, international opinion would conclude that "the United States had its day, but in the end couldn't put its own self-interest ahead of its crazy irrationality over race".
LibertyLover @ 72:
I think he was close.
But the bug in his ear just kept streaming: "John, you're the man! A POW! They're just a bunch of c*#ts, but that skinny blonde one's hot!"
Alice X - (Chomsky Nader) - status quObama - change you can pretend in - @ 73:
Sorry to be sharp, but neither Chomsky nor Nader know Marx. They put the blame on the actors, not the play. They shift attention from the disease to the symptoms... from the forrest to the trees. I hope you know what I'm sayin'.
Would it be improper of me to call Mc Cain a "pigfucker"? I think not!
Good! Maybe the women who watch The View will realize the stupidity of backing McCain.
An Average Joe @ 78:
If you have a link to back that up, please don't post it.
masha @ 32:
yeah, i bet she regrets not thinking of that on the spot. in her defense though, this is more follow-up than the MSM is doing.
Did you see McMothballs eyes when the said "...Lies".
He has repeated the lies so often himself he actually seems to believe them. Of course that is only a perception from this video and that itself could be a lie because he is a pathological liar. He started his relationship with his current wife with a lie about his age as he was lying to the wife he would abandon. Unless of course he told his ex, honey I am going to go out and literally fuck someone else, so fuck you figuratively. You think he was that truthful?
I've always hated The View and thought of it as trash TV, but this interview with Mccain was THE BEST I have seen yet in this campaign. Reporters are again, like they were in the buildup to the Iraq war, afraid to ask the tough questions and call out the bullshit. Mccain finally had an interview where he had to answer for what he's doing. Shame on him for the lies. Props to the women on The View for this interview.
huh? @ 81:
Holy Straight-talk, Batman!
These women were great! No bull; they called the lies falt-out! Look at McCain squirm! You better believe this is a tough campaign, bud! I think you just got VIEWED!
-Scott
McLeakyButt says "this is a tough campaign" as if that's an excuse for him to lie. If it's so tough why are they whining about a lil name calling. Not that Obama called her a name, but that what they're saying he did.
McDepends says it's okay for his campaign to lie because Obama didn't agree to joint town hall meeting.
They're using any excuse to justify lying, which is basically and admission that they ARE lying.
What's wrong with those stupid, ungrateful women on The View? Don't they understand that they owe everything to McCain because he chose a woman as his running soul mate? I'll bet none of them has ever stood on the lawn of Walter Reed Middle School in North Hollywood and been thankful for the fact that McCain is a POW and Palin is a hockey mom with lipstick.
Let's get Palin on The View, let her see what it's like to deal with tough women who aren't afraid of her.
Republicans are liars and cannot be trusted.
So whats new?
RancidVenison @ 77:
Yes, I think so. The great quandary, the fathomless enigma, the great disease that afflicts most human beings is human nature. Human nature is the great pitfall of every political system, beyond which is nihilism.
Where are the altruists? Gone extinct I fear.
Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just
the opposite.
John Kenneth Galbraith
I actually liked when Hasselback said: "No softball question from me, even though you have my vote..."
RancidVenison @ 3:
Oh, these ladies actually have brains and they have read the constitution. I couldn't watch the show. I actually have "real responsibilities." But I am loving this because a huge number of women (same gender as Palin) aren't buying the crap. McPain and all his Bushie lobbyists have no clue.
Alice X - Altruists Unite! @ 90:
brilliant quote
McCain's "C##t!" remark is remarkable to me for its casualness. He wasn't particularly angry at the time. Imagine what he says & does to her when he is really angry.
At another blog, a commenter was upset about the hunting wolves ad, saying charging for rape-kits was worse, not to mention the other dishonest things Palin & McCain have said & done.
Many people don't know what a Rape-Kit *is*, may imagine it as a goody bag or some such thing. Earmarks? People don't object to them when it benefits their own state or town, so being Queen of Pork may not resonate that loudly.
But the viscous killing of innocent animals from an airplane is a good example of a person's true identity. And cruelty to animals does resonate.
hey McCain, there're three good women you could have picked to be your VP instead of Phony Palin. I love it, coward Elizabeth finally learned to shut the F up!!! LOL.
RancidVenison @ 3:
I HATE the view, I didn't even know he went on the view till I looked at the real news-how many of you nonthinking women actually watch a show that does the same thing a bunch of women at an office do-gossip. Except Walters is a good reporter, if I wanted to listen to women talk, I'd call one. These women have endorsed the democrats for years, and it is appalling that McCain would even go on that show, but hey I give him a BIG HOORAH for having the guts to except the offer, especially when you have to sit with those women.
happy, McCain didn't want a "good woman..."
he wanted a Red meat-eating, moose-hunting, pro-military extreme religious nut, who is anti-choice, anti-freedom of speech, anti-constitution, pro-gun, pro-ear marks, and pro-FOUR MORE YEARS of STONE-WALLING FEDERAL INVESTIGATIONS INTO ABUSE OF POWER... AND WAR CRIMES.
THAT's who McCain wanted for his VP.
James Dobson told McSame that if he didn't choose the PTA mom he would not release his band of religious reichwingnuts to vote for him. McSame in turn chose the PTA mom and authored the most radical platform the rethuglicans have ever had.
What will McSame do when the lobbyists come calling? Oh yeah, they already work in his campaign.
Kay @ 96:
You HATE the view??? What the F___? Do you hate TRUTH, JUSTUCE, and THE AMERICAN WAY too? I suppose you also HATE apple pie... and baseball... and little kids with cute smiles... and butterflies!
You HATE the view??? I suppose you listen to Sean Hannity on the radio... and get a tingles up your leg when Billo comes on the TV during his SPIN sessions. Let me guess... you probably have RESPECT for George W. Bush as a great statesman... and Dick Cheney as a peace-maker.
You HATE the view??? I'm sorry, but I have to question your patriotism. You must be a Muslim!
Kathy, I agree with your comments. McCain likes to use women when it is convenient but deep down he hates them. He obviously thought it would be tea, crumpets and pleasantries at The View today. Instead, he got a well-deserved kick in the backside from some pissed-off ladies. Watching McCain's discomfort was a thing of beauty.
I'm starting to love those ladies
I am also not a regular viewer of "The View". But, I paid attention to the clips of the show. And I am very proud that the ladies (minus a sycophantic Elizabeth) did their job--especially Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg. I'm glad that they had natural BS detectors built in. As a result, they let McCain know that it wasn't going to be an easy ride.
What is even better is that they did this in front an audience of women--women who might be going ga-ga over Gov. Hockey Mom. By making McCain act like a fool on television, they might be able to see past the fakery that GOP is trying to employ in their ads.
OT, but still relevant: during the evening news, I saw a very harsh McCain ad (30 secs. or less) which used short catch-phrases to describe Obama as inexperienced and unfit to lead. Having watched it twice during the same broadcast, I mused upon the fact that the Obama campaign has to take the gloves off now. There's no other way. McCain/Palin's ads are mean-spirited and vicious. It's time (like I said before) to slap the brass knuckles on.
Seriously, I hope that the Obama campaign airs its commercials right after the McCain ones. They need to in order to stop the lies from being spun by the McCain/Palin people. First and foremost, these ads have to run ad nauseum until the end of the election.
I'm surprosed McCain didn't call the ladies trollops and C**ts.
For the View, I thought they did a reasonably good job, but they should have pushed him harder. They should have hammered him over the head with his own lies.
John McCain.
Senator.
POW.
POS.
Ron @ 9:
With each passing day, I'm losing more and more of the little respect I had for this man.
To think that at least 50% of the public will vote for this asswipe is simply nauseating! I cannot believe the race is this close?
Filthy Harry @ 4:
The view has to replace the MSM to give American's the truth. How fucked-up is that?
LibertyLover @ 91:
Little fascist brain-dead b***h! I'd like to make this c**t try to survive on unemployment (with no insurance) for about six months. Then see what she thinks of her republican buddies.
oh really @ 104:
That's about how I feel too. They pressed him, but IMO never really made him squirm. His worst moment was when the audience booed him over Roe v. Wade, and even then he simply faced the music and continued on. If they had done just a little homework they could have slammed him with some of his lies and flip-flops. Showing a little Jon Stewart-style video would have been great, but I don't know if they really wanted to go that far.
jerrysmith @ 2:
Yeah... looks good on him too, doesn't it?! I'd like to see that look on him ALL the time!
abiodun @ 6:
Elizabeth never has anything to contribute but giggles and stupidity. There! I said it out loud...
McCain and Palin are fucking liars. Money rules our country now and they are the corporate tools. I hope it's not too late for us to take back America.
I've seen Joy interviewed before (Larry King) and she seems like "everyday people" to me, and knows the issues. She just comes out with a common-sense truth, no pretense.
Good on Barabara for backing her up. Barabar Walters has been around-- no pushover.
Elizabeth Fashionista just squirmed, and probably thought about her manicure appointment, this afternoon.
PS I agree with whomever said (above), "Bring back Rosie!"
right on! @ 110:
seems like a dead end career for her. she's not gonna get offers from hollywood and no career like lisa ling's for her. no other hosting for her. she's generally disliked in the industry. without babwa, she's just a 2nd rate nfl player's wife.
Joementum @ 7:
Agreed.
I'm convinced everyone just wants to get on the red carpet, and this election is a popularity contest. Who can get into the tabloids most. That's about the level of it. Issues be damned. We have shopping to do-- gas 'er up.
Today in the mail I received a letter from the McCain campaign asking for a donation. I almost tore it up until I realized that there was a postage paid return envelope included. So as much as I hated to, I began reading the letter. After reading the first few lines, in a rage I grabbed the closest pen and highlighter and went to work responding with the truth to each statement.. "Obama's going to raise your taxes", "Obama won't protect America and your children will die" etc. and wrote responses for every lie and wrote in the truth. I ended this tormenting 15 minutes with "Do you really think America is that stupid? I consider this an insult that you would really think I'm that dumb." America isn't falling for your bullshit this time". I printed an Obama and move on donation page and included them with the original letter in the postage paid envelope, and sent it back.
We have to take lipstick back from the Republicans. Larry Craig and company need it for their personal use, and it's hard to find cosmetics at the airport bathrooms.
Honestlly, how can we take this guy and this campaign seriously when they keep spouting this bullshit. McCain has used the lipstick phrase before, but it is OK for him to use it about Hillary's healthcare plan, and not Obama about McCains change plan. Because when Obama uses the phrase it is about Caribou Barbie, and when McCain used the phrase it wasn't about Hillary Clinton. And according to the "Original Mavericks" ad, McCain already reformed Washington. What's left to change?
And also. per McCain, it bad for Obama that he didn't take on his own party. Well, maybe we are not as dishonest and corrupt as our republican counterparts. And McCain hasn't taken on the republicans since George Bush and Karl Rove smeared him in 2000. I know he was a POW many years ago, but now he is just a pussy.
I am so confused. Listen Sarah Palin doesn’t have a lot of experience–but she has more than Barack Obama. When Obama announced he was running for president he had only had 767 days of experience as a Senator, and before that he was a community organizer. And if we just say for argument’s sake that the Obama-Biden campaign equals the McCain-Palin ticket in terms of total experience–then I say go for MCCain-Palin. After all, McCain is at the top of the ticket, Palin isn’t. McCain has more experience than any of the 4. He is a war hero, helped push the surge (Notice how no one talks about Iraq–anymore? I wonder why?), McCain also told Reagan he was wrong about having Marines in Beriut–McCain told Reagan to get them out–soon later their barracks were bombed and 241 were killed, did I leave out that McCain and Palin both now have sons in Iraq, or that McCain is known as one of the most bi-partisan candiates (McCain, Feingold), and that Palin is known as a reformer, and McCain as a Maverick? Let me ask those voting for Barack Obama–Can you tell me one thing he has done–besides authoring two books? Name one law, one bill, one significant passage of legislation? Does he have any big bi-partisan legislation? Nope. Has he done anything at all? He wants to unify and change--but of all of the 4 candidates left he is the most extreme to one side--named as the most left-leaning senator--a uniter, who wants to create change? What change has he created as a Senator? Uh...None!!!
But you do know he can talk, and what he looks like, and that he says he is going to change things, but let me ask you one more question–why are you voting for the least expierenced candidate to ever run for president who has accomplished absolutely nothing so far in terms of signifigance? I mean if you owned a business would you hire the person who has years of expereince, and who has accomplished things or someone who is just a great speaker? I dont know about you–but I’ll take the experience, and the accomplishments. Just some things to thing about over the next seven weeks…..
-Chris
The George McPalin ticket is starting to be exposed and starting to crumble.I tip my hat to the women of the view for not pulling any punches.They had old JM squirming in his seat !! Definitely not what I expected. Everyone should check this out on google How war hero John McCain betrayed Vietnamese peasant
Maverick my ass ! The only thing more disgusting and pathetic than this guy and his campaign are the sorry lame brains who are so stupid and ignorant that they believe the lies and and the bullshit no matter how absurd , rediculous and obvious . The dumb asses in this country will do us all in .
Gretchen the aspiring elitist @ 28:
Don't suppose you could have a class study on the voting records of Obama and McCain. You could talk about their objective impacts on society.
Just tell me though--one thing that has Obama has done since he has been in office? Health care-nope. Iraq-nope.
Housing Market-Nope. Immigration-Nope. Campaign Finnance Reform-Nope. He has accomplished absolutely nothing....Nothing!!!
If you can name just one thing maybe I will think of voting for him. Go ahead I am all yours-people convince me!!!
But I bet you can't.....
Outside of being a great speaker...What is Barack Obama?
The Anti-Bush candidate? All of the candidates are....
What makes hiim different? Pretty please--please tell me....
Obama worked for eight years in IL Senate. There he got an ethics bill signed, no mean feat in IL politics; he got health care for children; care for seniors. In Washington he was again chair of ethics committee that wrote new ethics bill; worked with Luger of MI on nuclear proliferation bill. That's just off the top of my head. There's lots more if you could get past your bias and really look at his record. Stop repeating the repugs" spitting points and think for yourself. The thought of facing life in an America with a McPalin administration gives me the shudders. I'm a white, 68 yr old woman and I have dedicated all the money and time I can to see that the only one in this election year who can lead this country out of bush's mess is elected in Nov. OBAMA! OBAMA! OBAMA! OBAMA!
ckukahiko @ 25:
I guess freedom of speech just got pushed out the door by McCain/Palin.
The more important thing now is to investigate the corruption of Obama.
Obama was sponsored $250,000 by corrupt and convicte slumlord, Rezko. Obama ignored housing violations in 11 of the 30 housing projects in Obama's constituency.
Obama also got a $300,000 discount by Rezko who bought the lot next door to enable Obama to buy the house for $1.65 million dollar. Rezko can only gain access to the lot though Obama's house and never develop the lot.
Michelle Obama's salary jumped from $121,000 prior to Obama's election to Senate to $360,000 after his election. One of Obama's earmarks is to provide $1 million to Michelle' employer for the construction of a pavilion.
Obama spend $1 billions in earmarks in 4 years. The same kind of politics
Some more repug's talking points with no facts to back it up. In fact, most of it has already been proven FALSE! Like some of the others on these pages, I am sick of these people and their lies. Why can't McCain and his side-kick talk about the issues? Because they really have no plans? Because no one thinks they will do any thing different than bush? I think I'd rather elect two men who have both taught constitutional law in universities has two degrees from reputal colleges, Obama graduated Magna Cum Laude, than a man who inherited a spot at the Naval Academy and finished 6 or 7 above the bottom of a class of well over 800.
And if McCain's camp is crumbling as you say--why is McCain up in the polls?
Why did Obama go on vacation and stay on vacation while the Georgia conflict was going on?
That might be a sign of things to come...if Obama was elected....Sorry guys I was in Hawaii, oh and about that Georgia thing.....
Interestingly enough Political experts say the poll numbers started going down for Obama went on vacation with some experts saying Obama and his people went on vacation...and never really came back....
CMINCA @ 5:
Just an FYI that CNN did a poll to other countries asking who they preferred to be president. Almost an overwhelming majority said Barack Obama. Watch Queen Noor's interview on video. I think it is located in "top stories" or most "popular". Thanks for sharing the cite. I would also recommend folks join Media Matters. You can actually get involved by contacting the media directly with your concerns. Also, Barbara Walters is a seasoned reporter who did 20/20 back in the day. She is top in her field. There are not many reporters of her caliber left. Barbara is use to getting to the bottom of the truth. It was great to see her in action with John McCain.
Like it or not, more people probably watch this program than they do serious news shows (if there are any left). So seeing McCain get hammered over his boldfaced lies in front of this audience is great.
BTW, you can always tell when someone is lying when they blink a lot. Did you notice McCain's eyes during his answers?
abiodun @ 6:
She should have just asked him how great things were going over there: and how it was wonderful how we are fighting them over there, so we don't have to fight them here.
(and all the other myths we have all grown to love)
I mean my girls,blasted the shit out of this old disgusting bastard, who knows he is lying his ugly pink ass off.
He had the nerve to deny that is in fact what he was doing, right on national TV,before the very people he has the nerve to expect to cast a vote for him.
Hey guys,
Just kidding about the McCain thing above. Let's face it, he's older than Moses and his stepford wife isn't going anywhere.
Obama may not be perfect, but he's a hell of a lot better than John "Lets get us into as many wars as I can before I die" McCain.
Would anyone in their right mind vote for Monica Goodling to be vice-president, someone a heartbeat away from being president?
Well, Sarah Palin IS Monica Goodling.
Just like Goodling, Palin abused her position of public trust, using her public office for personal/religious vendettas.
Just like Goodling, Palin lied, lied, lied, while claiming to be a follower of Jesus Christ, who I really doubt is the Prince of Lies.
Just like Goodling, Palin is unqualified to hold any government position, especially not vice-president or (God help us) president.
Palin equals Goodling, with the same disdain for the rule of law, our Constitution, the will of our founding fathers to keep church and state separate.
Palin equals Goodling, with all the horror this entails for the freedom-loving women of our nation....
What a state our media is in when only the view is willing to put out the tough questions to mccain.
what a state our media is in when we must depend on the view to play hard ball with Mccain.
Gretchen the aspiring elitist @ 28:
Daddy drinks because you cry.
As a teacher there are lots of things you can do besides drink.
please do not give in.
Be a role model. You can listen to both side of children's arguments. Model fairness. model asking Both sides of a question.
Children catch on very quickly.
It is your right as a teacher to question a comment made in your classroom if it is wrong. Show kids how to look up answers for themselves.
Don't give up on the next generation. Or, if you really feel that way, maybe a job change?
Nice how Senator Obama plays the victim role. I thought he said he was going to run a good clean campaign and not resort to typical politics. Certainly seems to me that he is the same as every other politician, we might want to "lift the hood and kick the tires" a little more to see what else is "typical politician" about him. Obama has spent more time since going to Washington running for president than actually working there, what makes us so niave that he wont run for king of the world next?? We need a president who will vote more than "present".
Who died and made McCain god? He stated in his interview that (indirect quote) "if Obama had done what he asked him to do" the ads might not have been as they are. Well I think that Senator Obama is Senator McCain's equal so why should McCain be giving Obama instructions. I am fed up with this election and the route that I see this election going. Stick with the facts. How could Palin be the most popular governor when most people did not even know who the governor of Alaska was until McCain announced his running mater. Thank you "Women" of the view for being so direct with the questions given to Senator McCain. I don't think he realizes it, but if he wins the election, he will be viewed as the vice and Palin will walk all over him.
Uncle Joe Mccarthy @ 93:
Exclamation point.
Voice of Reason @ 136:
are you a TROLL?
Chris @ 119:
Sarah Palin IS STUPID and CLUELESS! Just like you! That's the point dumb-ass!
Those were the toughest challenges to the McCain/Palin lies that we have seen so far. You go girls! So proud of you!
When you watch more of the longer version of that interview McCain keeps asking "how have I changed, how have I changed". These gals miss an incredible opportunity to hold McCain's feet to the fire in regard to the last eight years of rolling over to the Bush administration. There have not been any Republicans (well Senator Lincoln Chaffeee who is now gone) who have pushed for at the very least not blocked the Democrats efforts to hold the Bush administration accountable for the false intelligence used in the run up to the illegal and immoral invasion of Iraq. McCain has never pushed for but interfered with the Democratic Senators and Congress men and Womens efforts to access documents having to do with the Plame outing, the politicization of the Dept of Justice. Have you heard McCain demand that Rove, Meiers and Bolton appear before congress (these people have ignored subpoenas, and bucked the Dept of Justice). McCain voted for Attorney General Micheal Mukasey who continues to undermine our Justice System.
McCain a Maverick is bullshit. McCain is a supporter of selective enforcement of our laws and investigations. He has not pushed for any type of ACCOUNTABILITY IN REGARD TO THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCkgtisIz5A
Chris @ 119:
It boggles my mind that anyone can say this when even a cursory search on Wiki would dispel this "Obama has done nothing of note" meme. Especially when all McCain can do nowadays is agree and vote with the very people he is going to "reform," not to mention co-opt their campaign tactics from which he HIMSELF suffered. Is voting with corruption 95% of the time a worthy accomplishment? How about choosing a patently unqualified, visibly corrupt, and yes, extremely inexperienced religious fanatic for VP to pander to the base that put the country in this condition in the first place? THESE are worthy accomplishments?
The View and James Carville and everyone else need to move past the "I can't believe John McCain approved these messages". He says he approved them, in clear English, right at the end of the ad. That's the whole point of the legal requirement that has candidates tacking on that coda -- to ensure that they can't squirm out of responsibility for messages that emerge in their campaign ads.
The question should simply be, "Why are you lying to Americans and why do you think a liar should be able to ascend to the most important job in the world?"
fastfeat @ 75:
People who believe in the America First philosophy that the McCain-Palin ticket espouses should go back a re-read their history.
If England had not stood against the German tide in 1940, the Nazis would have controlled the North Atlantic and would have made an invasion of Europe in 1944 impossible. Similarly, our Australian allies were instrumental in the days when we had lost nearly all our bases in the South Pacific by providing bases for MacArthur and their own troops to begin taking back New Guinea and Guadalcanal. And millions of Russians died fighting Nazi savagery from 1941 to 1944 when we could barely invade North Africa and Italy.
Contrary to jingoistic Americans beliefs, we NEED allies around the world if we are to have any success in fighting terrorism around the globe. So what does Bushco Inc. do?
Why, piss off the entire world, of course. And McInsane and Caribou Barbie would continue the same policy that would totally alienate the rest of the world.
If this country elects McCain, it deserves 4rth or 5th class status in the world.
Its pretty sad when "The View" does a better job asking tough questions of McCain than most of the media..
He calls barack Obama disrespectful and sexist but look at him telling the ladies to "shut up" (at 5:05 in the youtube here). He can't take a little fire from a group of 5 ladies...is this who we want for President?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoQ_G6eMJAQ
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