Soltz To McCain: The Troops Don't Get A Time Out For Financial Crisis
By Logan Murphy Tuesday Sep 23, 2008 8:50pm
So, because there's a financial crisis, Senator McCain cannot take 90 minutes to address how he will face challenges around the world, including how and when he will send American troops to fight, and possibly die.
Wow. Troops would sure love that luxury.
Unfortunately, though, insurgents in Iraq don't stop shooting at us, or setting IEDs, because our Commander in Chief needs a breather to figure out Wall Street.
Al Qaeda in the Afghanistan/Pakistan border region don't send our troops notes that read, "Hey, I hear you guys are tied up with Wall Street. Your President needs to concentrate on other things, so we'll give you a break. So, to make things easier on you, here's our coordinates." Read on...
Ouch. That's going to leave a mark. John McCain just choked and Soltz just made him pay for it. By hittting him on what has always been perceived as his strong suit Jon shows how he once again -- like his abysmal voting record on veterans issues -- is all too eager to put politics before country. And if he can't handle multiple issues and crises at one time, it is laughable to say that he could ever be the leader of the free world. Flanked by a vice presidential candidate who is woefully inept, corrupt and unqualified, Senator McCain is proving without a doubt that in the moment of truth, when things get tough, he won't hesitate to cut and run on the American people.
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one crisis at a time, please
Indeed
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Victory Over SCLM, DIEBOLD, ESS and SEQUOIA! @ 1:
Scheduled in advance, with proper deference, thank you.
'This is Maliki saying Bush buckled on the substance of withdrawal but the sticking point — the unmovable force — was finding some fig leaf to offer McCain’s war-until-forever posture. This from, as Duss points out, the man who constantly lies and says his war strategy is entirely subservient to the wishes of his commanders on the ground. God, can I not wait until the National Archives open the papers on this administration.' 9/24
who's this unpatriotic terrorist sympathizer?! how dare he say such disparaging things about McCain, who was a POW!!
BobbyG @ 3:
we reserve the right to restrict access by actual reporters and photojournalists.
WOW! A comment like that from a Marine in Iraq is absolutely going to crush McSame and his lame excuses!
burnt @ 5:
John McCain was a POW? Gee, I did not know that. Why is he keeping it such
a BIG secret?
Had to see what the BushMeister looked like tonight so I caught the last 30 seconds. Holy Jeez, the man looks like he's going to directly from the White House to Madame Tussauds' House of Wax. I mean he had a scary waxy complexion thing going on. This whole thing seems to be going poorly for him.
Too bad.
Just watched Our Glorious Leader blame foreign investors and the American public for the economic catastrophe while using fear of another great depression to urge the rushing through of a massive bailout. I think the volume of bullshit actually broke my TV.
I'm just waiting for Bush to link all of this to Saddam Hussein or Osama Bin Laden. He'll probably head back to Crawford now that his work for the week is done.
Yes buddy, that's the deal. You should have read the small print..
You signed up, so now they send you over and over again, until you die.
Jonh Mc.Cain does not want a draft; no need; he can screw over people like you..
BobbyG @ 3:
And, tailored to whatever "solutions" we may have waiting in the bullpen....
So if I've got this right, McCain wants everything tied up in a neat package before Monday so he can claim to be the hero that saved the day. He "told" Bush to hold a bipartisan meeting w/Obama and others, and Bush is following McCain's lead. This will be followed by McCain listening to Obama's ideas (stealing what he likes best) and claiming that by putting country first, he's shown the real leadership here. Is that enough spin for you? I'm feeling a Rovian presence in all of this. Gag me with a spoon.
Chicken "Hussein" Little - Not! @ 9:
That was a good laugh. Too funny
tree @ 13:
Barney Frank observed that McCain wants to parachute in at the last minute and take credit for "resolving the crisis" after all the work was done without any input or work from him.
tree @ 13:
I heard Obama say this yesterday on the Stephanie Miller show. It could have been said the day before. It wasn't live.
So there you have it. McCain playing catch up again.He's just "Borrowing" Obamas Ideas.:P
The troops are a forgotten entity. They are simply tools that can be used for Dubya-Cheney's nefarious purposes. Just so many pushpins on a war-room map. Sickening.
McCain looks horrible. He needs a mortician, not a makeup artist.
Chicken "Hussein" Little - Not! @ 9:
when the drinks cabinet is locked, drunks turn to other sources, 'George, why are we out of rubbing alcohol again ?'
tree @ 13:
But this IS putting country first for McCain. He is showing the country who would be the best next president. Obama.
Boy, this one is a stretch.
tree @ 13:
Yep. That's the audacity of "IOKIYAR" working for McCain.
This stunt today should convince a lot of Americans that McPOW's is out of his mind. I mean, this stuff happened right after the heels of the George Will column.
Chicken "Hussein" Little - Not! @ 9:
You gotta be kidding, right? "Too bad"???? - what the heck are you smoking?
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This whole thing is becoming very scary. It may be that bush is about to become an even more dangerous fanatic than he has ever been. A number of blogs are indicating that this may just be the beginning of the precipitating "crisis" that will allow bush to act on all the "dictatorial" preparedness that has been going on over the past 7+ years.
He may actually eclipse Hitler in the damage wrought in the world. At least after Hitler, there was a world to rebuild. You never know with a christian fanatic like bush, who is just waiting for Armageddon.
Or else he is simply under the influence of drugs and/or alcohol - AGAIN.
One more thing: McCain stealing Obama's ideas isn't new. The guy's been doing it all along. It's like that cheater in class who peeks at the A Student's paper during exam time. Literally, McPOW is copying another's paper to get the A-grade.
I'm surprise that this amount of cheating by the McPOW camp throughout the election hasn't incited a riot by now. He's acted dishonorably throughout this entire thing. This has to be the tip of the iceberg.
I'm just wondering how any other man running for the highest office in the land could get away with this sort of unprofessional behavior.
It's Kindergarten in Iraq: "Ok everyone. No more playtime. It's time for naps. Heads on your mats, right now."
Ex-Canuck @ 22:
It's the latter. Forget about martial law/dictactorship kinds of BS...He's off his rocker and has been for last 2 1/2 years.
why should mccain debate obama when he can be in d.c shaking down banks, insurance companies, and big investers.
tr @ 26:
Exactly. His automaton (i.e. Cindy) needs a new face-lift.
Ex-Canuck @ 22:
Not so much with the sarcasm huh. Too bad. LOL
John McCain is a pu**y and a c*nt. (Sorry, it just had to be said.)
tr @ 26:
do you ever wonder how the old-school u.s. intelligence guys like john negroponte feel right now?
they spent their entire lives making questionable moral decisions, all in the name of conquering soviet communism, rationalizing that the means justified the means.
and now they get to see the flag they fought for ruthlessly overthrown by an international fascist banking cartel headed by a spoiled little "rotten child" who only cares about the "illumination" of the glow from a pile of silver and gold.
Nobody disses Oxford, Mississippi without dissing us all down here below the Mason-Dixon line.
To paraphrase McIdjit: "We are all Mississippians." (Gee I wonder if Palin could spell that?)
*means justified the ends
Wow, the mean-spiritedness on this board is astounding.
Our nation is in crisis, and we need leaders to step up and deal with this crisis as American Leaders ... not as politicians. There is plenty of time to debate Foreign Policy on Sunday night, Monday night or Tuesday night without causing any real problems for the good folks in Oxford, Mississippi.
Right now really is the time to come up with a permanent solution to this mess before our economy collapses ... and guess what that in and of itself will limit our foreign policy options around the world more than anything else.
I'll grant you that Democrats have a right to be doubtful that this is a politcal ploy, but it is sad that the level of public discourse has sunken to a level where instead of giving the benefit of the doubt we pounse as partisan hienas if our opponent seeks to do something bold.
I for one wants a leader, whether Obama or McCain, who in the midst of crisis doesn't play around with David Letterman but doesn everything (s)he can to find a real workable solution.
burnt @ 5:
You nailed it. Does this commie know we're having a national crisis? Literally hundreds of executives are in fear of losing their golden parachutes, or having those multi-million-dollar payouts drastically delayed, and this guy has the nerve to bring up soldiers.
The American taxpayer does not want to be reminded that they're still a trillion in debt because of failed policies halfway across the world, when they're about to be hit up for another trillion because of failed policies right here on our own soil!
*ends justified the means.
(there is something too funny about back-to-back freudian slips)
Write your Congress rep, Senator and even your State Governor and tell them this:
Do not pass any bailout proposal until this provision is taken out:
"Decisions by the Secretary pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-reviewable and committed to agency discretion, and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency."
Sincerely,
bullfrog @ 30:
negroponte enabled them all the way. he is in on it.
CitizenNC @ 33:
So let me guess, you want McCain.
The point NEARLY everyone on this page is trying to make is this:
WE want a leader who will step up and make decisions and tell us what those decisions are--which, by the way, Obama has been clear about his position on this matter--not hide from the press like a little girl and cancel interviews and debates where they must state their positions.
It is not MEAN-SPIRITED to be a TAX-PAYING AMERICAN and to expect your leaders to be clear about HOW THEY ARE GOING TO SPEND YOUR MONEY.
We want answers, and we deserve answers. To say that's "mean-spirited" is just your way of saying, "I like John McCain and don't you dare question ANYTHING about him."
McCain and Palin are playing politics. They're appearing to be hard at work, when in fact they're not only NOT doing anything, they're not even saying what they WOULD BE doing if they were doing something.
And the fact of the matter is, if they HAD TO state their positions to the public, the public would not be happy with those positions.
All of this is 110% true. McCain is in no way able to be a leader of such a significant nation. Perhaps a small, deserted island might be ok.
So umm... why do a significant proportion of American's polled believe he IS capable? What is wrong with their thinking processes to make him acceptable?
How can McCain be polling in more than single digits?
Sorry, i don't get Americans.
Bush was one big ball of fear mongering on tv tonight... the sky is falling... the sky is falling give me a trillion dollars with no strings attached or else!
Any one remember this...
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/01/29/eveningnews/main325985.shtml
or this...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/05/AR200708...
or this...
Audit: U.S. lost track of $9 billion in Iraq funds
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/01/30/iraq.audit/
or this...
Two Years After Katrina, Billions in Relief Funds Are Missing
http://www.alternet.org/story/60494/?page=2
So now Bush wants us to hurry up and give him another trillion to throw down the rabbit hole???
How many bailouts have taken place already with no effect?
If we give Bush our tax payer dollars as he wants.... we deserve to be ripped off!
"It is not MEAN-SPIRITED to be a TAX-PAYING AMERICAN and to expect your leaders to be clear about HOW THEY ARE GOING TO SPEND YOUR MONEY."
Here, here. And even if it is mean spirited, I'll be mean spirited for the right reasons.
Rasputin nailed this. The Bush crime family has proved time and again they can rob the treasury. If we hand over the keys without the proper oversight and regulations in place FIRST then we deserve to get kicked in the 'nads. Personally I don't think we need the bail-out. We should force the banks and mortgage companies to accept renegotiated loans for the homeowners that are struggling and force the likes of Lehman execs to give up their multi-billion dollar bonuses. First make the thieves return what they stole, then and only then can we have a meaningful discussion on what they need going forward.
Can you guys just drop this "leader of the free world" shit? Almost all of the free world does not live in the US, is not eligible to vote in US elections, and is therefore not represented by the POTUS.
We have our own leaders, thanks.
Otherwise, keep up the good work. :)
3410 @ 43:
The general arguments for that line go something like, "The GNP of the US is equal to the GNP of the rest of the free world combined. So we're the leaders of the free world like it or not". Or the the military version "We're the policeman of the free world, we have the military might! We won WWII -- single-handedly! And then forced the commies to surrender!" Both of these arguments are of course a load of self-inflated horse cr@p. The US is only as important on the world stage as the world lets it be. We have ~5% of the worlds population but consume ~25% of it's resources. Eventually things like oil and other resources (fresh water, food, etc.) are going to run out or become harder and harder to find in adequate supply and then what will we do? Turn the world into a nuclear ash heap to get the remaining few barrels out of Russia? Wow, what a great idea.
"Why is it that conservatives are against conservation?" -- Anonymous
bamboozled @ 34:
Wow. I couldn't have put this any better. We can do more for Barack by sending this quote across the country than anything else except maybe sending him cash.
We're bringing the troops in to the argument to make a point? ugh...
CitizenNC @ 33:
.... and the award to the "Concern Troll of the day" goes to... CitizenNC, for his pathetic attempt to set McCain scott free by blaming the victims.
bamboozled @ 34:
If you are keeping track, the mounting total of the debt due to this failure of president is double that: over 4 trillion dollars.
He cut and run on his first family, he'll cut and run on this country.
A leopard doesn't change his spots after all.
I hope these young people are aware of the danger McSain/Palin, pose to them, should they somehow manage to steal this election.
I worry so much about them, especially now that they are not the number one issue on the minds of people losing their homes and jobs.
This is so very sad
So John McCain is suspending his campaign. Whew. I'd hate to think someone who was running for President could do more than 1 thing at a time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46afFz063B0
If McCain will lie to David Letterman...what makes you think he'll tell you the truth?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr9S0DaTjvw
Cas @ 11:
You are attacking the wrong party here.
Bush needs to move to Cheney's bunker with several cases of Smirnoff.
We need to have everyone talking about McCain in the Letterman manner. He really should not be taken seriously.
And the MSM needs to remember who pays the Dollar for their dribble or their days are numbered also.
Mara Liasson implied on NPR yesterday that McCain's "Time Out" was a brilliant tactical manuever and it gave McCain the momentum again. Why must NPR listeners have to suffer such an idiot?
It's all to change the subject. McCain did everything he could to help his Wall Street buddies when it comes to deregulation. Since McCain is partly responsible, he came up with this gambit. I'm sure they thought there were only two ways for Obama to respond. One, refuse to cancel and look like a craven politician who just wants to be President regardless of the 'CRISIS!!!!' Or agree to suspend the campaign and make McCain look like a Statesman and a leader. Someone who Obama has to follow. Instead. Obama came up with a third solution. Call McCain on his bluff. Turn the tables on who is the craven politician.
All McCain has to do is, find some little opening to hold onto the Right wing Fanaticos....and they're begging for a reason too, so they won't look like the A-holes they actually are.
The out card? Now McCain can say, "Look, you wanted the debate...you got it but this isn't the most important thing right now and truthfully....I simply was too busy with more important stuff to properly prepare for this stupid debate". God I hope he is insane enough to say something like this?
CitizenNC @ 33:
I sincerely do hope you're just being facetious and pulling all of our legs with your admonitions, but if not, I might make two points:
1) John McCain, by his own admission, doesn't understand the economy. He's never been on the Banking Committee, or the Budget Committee, or the Joint Economic Committee. Plus he's already missed almost this entire congressional session and probably has no real idea of what the hell is happening on Capitol Hill. The idea that everyone has been lost without him there, that they need him to ride in there like Sir Pimp-Daddy Galahad on a white stallion and rescue the situation, is absurd and laughable. Whatever bipartisan progress was being made, he's just going to wipe out with campaign grandstanding.
2) He's the most visible member of his party right now, their representative to the nation. A hefty hell of a lot more people watch presidential debates than do C-SPAN. If he actually wanted to do real good, he'd haul his wrinkled ass up on stage and show some leadership for his ideas, regardless of the topic, and give Americans some confidence that we're not all entirely screwed. That is the official McCain campaign position, right - that all of these economic problems are psychological? He ought to be chomping at the bit for the chance to give us a big pep talk, not running away exclaiming, "Not tonight, honey, I have a headache."
Give me a friggin' break.
"Soltz To McCain: The Troops Don’t Get A Time Out For Financial Crisis"
or armour !!
CitizenNC @ 33:
How long --exactly-- have you been observing the Republicans?? Start today???????
McCain isn't taking a break, he's just attacking America from a different direction. The banks and lobbyists who hold the deed to his soul have ordered him to cast his vote for this "Gigantic Swindleof the American People"™©® . They can see that things are not headed in the direction they engineered and are going to need every vote they can get, if they are to succeed at their intended bigtime "Butt-Fucking-America-On-Prime-Time-TV"™©® . Last chance to bugger us all before the election, and.......By God(!), McStand-Up-Kinda-Guy is going do his part to make sure that happens.
This is the same Jon Soltz who, like Paul Rieckhoff, will advocate for the benefit of the American soldier but does not seem to realize or care that he is addressing the symptom and not the cause of the plight of these soldiers as both Soltz and Rieckhoff are against the immediate withdrawal of U.S. forces from Afghanistan and Iraq. Until they make this proclamation, they both come across as hypocrites.
tree @ 13:
I'm with you... it stinks of KKKarl, doesn't it? And it's slimy and sleazy, just like McSame is... eeeewwwwww
Don't you worry. He can talk to 3rd Army 1st Brigade that will be activated in the USA on October 1st ( against the Constitution ) so if anyone gets uppity about losing jobs or your home they will throw you in the newly built concentration camps that were built for the terrorists.
And here I thought all the time that senators were elected to be in Washington to fight for the people that elected them.
How dare John McCain do what he was hired (elected) to do.
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