McCain Now Says He'll Negotiate The Bailout Via Cell Phone
By Nicole Belle Friday Sep 26, 2008 9:00pmEven though his campaign is no longer suspended, John McCain is staying in Washington this weekend to keep working on the bailout legislation. He will not be visiting Capital Hill, however, preferring to work out of his campaign office.
"He can effectively do what he needs to do by phone,'' said senior adviser Mark Salter. "He's calling members on both sides, talking to people in the administration, helping out as he can.''
WTF? The financial crisis was SO important that he had to "suspend" his campaign to come to Washington, but now he can contribute to the negotiations over the cell phone, but he's going to stay in Washington instead of going out to campaign? Does any of this make sense?
I'm curious, will any of his suggestions for this bailout include a federal spending freeze he advocated last night? Has he considered the ramifications? Will the unworkability of the Republican plan make McCain blink?








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Next Political "Stunt" for the Mac Daddy Prediction:
Palin finds a way out of next weeks VP by claiming that she has to get back to AK for her daughters wedding ... don't believe me, read the timesonline.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections...
mccain knows how to work a cell phone?
First??
You mean that GIANT old phone with the ginormous buttons that he can punch with his sharpie?
Hahahahahahahahahaha (wiping tears of laughter from my eyes) Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
I hope he is calling to get a second opinion on that left eye.
Stop asking rational questions dammit, he was a P.O.W.
He is hard at work inventing the replacement for the Blackberry, and can't be disturbed.
Maverick McCain Puts His Stamp for ‘Change’ on Wall St
Six days of mania and now he needs to rest. Last night's debate wiped him out. He's old. He's not use to working 24/7 and this was the week from hell. John McCain declares: Time out!
Don Davis @ 8:
chris [not the troll] @ 6:
don, stop just pimping your site and HANG OUT with us!
Like most people his age, he likes to take long naps on weekends and just putter around. Check his schedule and you will find there is more down time than one would expect from a candidate. As a person who is quasi-old, let me say that McCain is seriouslly old.
Here's what I want to know. Where the f++k is this money coming from? They act like its just sitting in somebody's drawer somewhere, and all they have to do is haul it away in a wagon.
If they have all of this money laying around, why the hell weren't they using it long ago for things like....oh, I don't know, maybe health care, unemployment benefits, college tuition, roads, bridges...ya know, stuff that could maybe HELP PEOPLE.
Are they just pulling this $700B out of their ass?
He's calling it in?
that was a no no even before he was a POW.
No, none of it makes sense.
Nothing has made sense for almost eight years.
Wonder how McCain will answer to this:
http://www.ire.org/extraextra/campaign-finance/head-of-mccains-transitio...
Kathy in St. louis @ 11:
Yeah, I'm quasi-old and I need my down time and with McCain being old as dirt, he needs his weekends free to relax. The mania of last week was just too much for him and then having to work hard at containing his anger during the debate, well, it just put him over the top.
mcfuckhead......
f#cking a$$hole
anything that is not honest to
win the election.
roni @ 12:
Actually, they are. The $700B is just a large number that is being requested. No one knows the real amount or if they do, they aren't telling.
No, we don't have this money and once we bailout these failed investments with money borrowed from other nations, we will officially become a third world country.
John McCain for the 'Jitterbug'.
Does this remind anybody else of Jimmy Carter in the Rose Garden during his run with Reagun? Didn't work then probably won't work now.
From my perspective, McCain's federal spending freeze that he suggested during the debate and his apparent backing of the Republicans so called alternative bailout plan will only lead to more pain for the economy. Americans dependent on those cut programs will have to cut back more on their discretionary spending which will hit businesses bottom line. When that happens businesses will start to cut jobs in large numbers and lower prices to stay in business while banks continue to fail. Government tax revenues will dry up further and the U.S. GDP will contract hard which will throw the U.S. into a recession or possibly a painful depression. True, the U.S. dollar will gain in strength and the U.S. military will be more powerful but the country itself will be down and possibly out. In other words, McCain's economic plan means one thing: empire.
Expect a medical related announcement next week.
roni @ 12:
We have plenty of money! We still send Pakistan $10mil a month, are going to rebuild Georgia, and continue to rebuild Iraq!
Cats r Flyfishn @ 18:
They're out planting the pine seedlings that will one day grow into trees from which they'll make the paper to print the money that they say they'll need as we speak...
So, yes folks, it was a political stunt pulled on the American people. He never meant to help out the financial crisis. He did it to derail Obama. All in all, it makes him a lot more nastier than being placed on the pedistal as a hero.
Joe O. @ 21:
I think McCain's plan would be more like "The Fall of the US Empire". We are already a third world country and we don't know it. We have no money. If China decided to call in its debt, they could literally take our oil and gas. That's what the US did in South America and that's why they hate us in South America.
...must control laughte... BWAHAHAHA! Lord in heaven he's literally "phoning it in!" HAHAHAH! Please...please..make it stop...
OK, regained control.
Seriously, this joker bounces from ploy to ploy like a pinball. He can't stand for anything because he is always changing position. Maverick? Try plain old crazy.
"The dead have risen and they're voting Republican!"
Of course he would use a cell phone. He is after all the inventor of the blackberry!
It seemed to me that McCain pulled spending freeze idea straight out of his ass. Has he brought this up before? I'm guessing it was a typically impulsive, thoughtless McCain quip, i.e., a gaffe.
The Very Bitter Ceci Hussein @ 25:
The beauty of this is that McCain lost and Obama won. Obama called his bluff and McCain was forced to attend the debate. That's why he was McGrouchy last night. McCain is in way over his head with Obama.
God that pic of McCane makes my skin crawl, and I'm ugly!
I almost feel sorry for Cindy having to bang that
everyANY night. Almost.Last night McCain used the little "funny" about using his pen (this pen is old) to veto any pork barrel spending. He has been using this line over and over too. Gawd, he needs a new script. Same old stories. Maybe he is incapable of learning anything new.
And now today McCain is worried he might have come off last night as being rude! Duh!
Apparently his staff have been reading the blogs and listening to how everyone is dissing McCain for his rudeness.
hmmm.... didn't someone comment here that he was getting a minor medical procedure done this weekend? That might explain why he has to stay in Washington but only be available by big cell phone.
Also, have you seen the plan put out by VT Sen. Bernie Sanders? It comes with a petition. Read and sign here - http://sanders.senate.gov/petitions/?petition=Financial_Crisis_1
roni @ 12:
Thats the thing. The money doesn't exist, yet. The Government can either borrow it, print it, or tax it. That is it. People seem to think that the Government acts like some sort of business. That couldn't be further from the truth. The Government sells nothing and generates nothing that people or nations want to buy. That money always comes from somewhere and that bill is always placed on the taxpayers back. Every Government works the same way.
DaveK @ 29:
To be honest, I don't think he ever thought of an original idea in this campaign.
DaveK - McCain has no impulse control.
chris [not the troll] @ 6:
You mean he was a P.O.W. of the war where he was a fighter pilot and murdered thousands of innocent men, women and children with bombs from the sky?? In a war that was based on a lie? THAT war???
I forget, why were we in that war? So the evil commies wouldn't eventually land on the shores of Manhattan and L.A.?
Yeah, some fucking war hero.
15 Jo
"Wonder how McCain will answer to this:..."
he will probably do something so off the wall that it can not be ignored but the msm but it wil also turn the political world upside down and into a state of confusion as a way to distract the attention from the building story of his staffs close and profitable conection to the freddie and fannie mess. for the life of me i can not think of how he will accomplish this distraction for a third time in less than 2 months, but i bet the media will follow the distraction right on cue.
Cats r Flyfishn @ 30:
Yes, that was the good part of this entire drama. He thought he could pull one up on Obama. But, Obama held firm and stood his ground. That made me glad in an otherwise tense night.
Now if we can get him to stop saying, "John, I agree" in the next debate. ;)
Jesus wept.Is this guy kidding me?
It's cheaper and his telecom lobbyists will pick up the bill
His cell phone will not work from more than ten miles away. That's why he has to be in Washington in to use it. If he was in, say, Chicago, he could not yell loud enough into the phone for this fellow senators to hear him.
Write Your Own Caption:
"HAW HAW! That's a good one! I just love c*nt jokes! Say that reminds me: ever hear the one about Chelsea Clinton and Janet Reno? Issa humm-dinger!"
This doddering old fool is only out done in the "pathetic" department by his running mate.
Cats r Flyfishn @ 26:
I couldn't agree more. That is exactly what McCain's plan is. The U.S. will be in a rapid fiancial spiral downward with McCain's plan. Maybe I should have been more specific. What I should have said is, with McCain's plan the U.S. will be an empire in a rapid decline.
ThinkProgress has this story also...
i liked this:
Update: When asked by the Washington Post whether McCain "will be able to spin the idea that he swooped in and saved the bailout bill," House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D-MA) replied:
It depends on whether you guys get fooled or not and write that [bleep]. ... Before McCain came in, we thought we were working. McCain comes in, it gets screwed up, now McCain leaves -- I dunno, it's like Jimmy Piersall.
The whole "discontinue campaign, fly to Washington to Save The Nation, avoid the debates" announcement was SOLELY to throw the media off the "Rick Davis continues being paid as a lobbyist" story.
And it worked.
McCain and Palin negotiating.
MountainMan23 @ 47:
Again, remind me why this man is considered honorable and a hero?
Two words for Dems that don't want to be pestered by Mr So Bipartisan he can't even look at the man he is debating:
Call Blocking
pinkobait @ 40:
nicole, hope you don't mind the o-t, but i wanna respond to this one.
i have this cousin who keeps telling me jesus is coming back soon. he says jesus is literally going to soar down out of the sky on a big, white horse and save humankind.
he even printed me up a t-shirt saying, "jesus is coming soon. are you going to be ready?" i never wear it because i don't want anyone to think i'm a stark, raving lunatic.
i told my cousin he is full of crap. if jesus came back like THAT, no oine would believe it was him. everyone would think it was some crap stan winston studio cooked up.
and you better believe, the tin foil hat brigade would have a field day with that one.
i told my cousin, d.j., jesus might be coming back.
but if he does, he'll probably take the stealth route.
he'll probably come back in our hearts & in our minds.
*one
This is interesting and its also a big portion of the problem as we all know. For the last few months or so the national debt has held steady at $9.6 trillion or so. Now, with all of these bailouts and massive military spending as well as other expenditures it is rapidly moving up higher now and obviously will continue to do so. From the Bureau of the Public debt:
$9,849,249,966,383.92
*two :)
The cancer is back - otherwise why the bizarre behavior. Internet rumors about a mini stroke or transient ischemic attack abound, but his visible and verbal symptoms could also be a result of chemotherapy. Don't think they can do much more cutting in his head at this stage, so chemo is the likely course of attack.
He is likely staying in DC to be closer to his medical staff.
We can only hope he dumps palin before long. She is about as scary as the worst that islam has to offer. An evangelical nut with power is damn scary.
The Very Bitter Ceci Hussein @ 39:
At least one "John, I agree" was a setup, because everything Obama said next was a repudiation of whatever McCain had just said.
McCain's chest got pumped up at the "John, I agree" .. and then he took about 11 body punches of repudiation.
I'd quote the sequence if I remembered it.
Obama is very subtle - but in my opinion very effective - in the way he tears McCain apart without appearing combative.
While my husband was job hunting, he interviewed with a mortgage company. This mortgage company had a list of names of people that all ready had mortgages and the object was to contact these people and sell them a new mortgage and have them take out another loan to pay the closing costs for the new mortgage. Then the new mortgage were bundled and sold and this is why no one knows who owns what with sub-prime mortgages. It was a HUGE scam and former Governor Eliot Spitzer was going to spill the beans on Bush and his connection to this theft and next thing you know... the Spitzer/Madam scandal erupted and Spitzer politcal career was dead.
Scary.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzuIHjQYW2c - "It doesn't have to be this way."
Create a neighborhood or work-place voting drive. Voter turn out will make the difference.
This might be in the works: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections...
John, to bed with you and Failin' Palin. Err.....not literally but you know what I mean. I know your surrogate Rubugs are reading this as you don't the email or the internettubes so take a hike, read a book, or go kill moose with Sarah the Mighty Moose Killer!
I think the crisis this week will be Palin having to return to Alaska by Thursday morning so she won't be able to make the debate. And yes, it is scary to have no impulse control John McCain near the nuke button or to have "I'm ready for the Rapture" Palin near the nuke button. Neither of these options sound safe to me.
Jo @ 15:
He simply won't have to handle it. No one in the media has the balls to ask mccain to explain the lobbying of his campaign leader.
patrick @ 42:
"Can you hear me now? ___ Good. NOT!"
Ex-Canuck @ 55:
Yeah, Assemblies Of God is basically al-Qaeda in Christian form. Not only is she nuts, she's a colossal dipshit to boot. Makes Dubya and Reagan look like MENSA members.
Mc Lies, Mc Same
Sarah Palin in a beauty pageant?" Why not? At least that's some type of experience.
-DT
WTFFF?
Why were the McCain's on a flight with the Giuliani's when McCain was getting the hell out of dodge out of Washington?
Could Sarah P be just a distraction?
I'm heading out... good night folks. Nice chatting with you.
Hey! Look over there, chumps!
Woo, I'm still here.
Janice, what are you referring to??? I must have missed this.
Cats r Flyfishn @ 57:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/13/AR200802...
Expect to hear next week that Palin can't debate because Bristol had a miscarriage.
If you think I'm wrong.
I'll bet my house on it.
fastfeat - yeah, I saw that the other day.
MountainMan23 @ 56:
LEHRER: Two minutes on Russia, Senator McCain.
MCCAIN: Well, I was interested in Senator Obama's reaction to the Russian aggression against Georgia. His first statement was, "Both sides ought to show restraint."
Again, a little bit of naivete there. He doesn't understand .. [long blah blah blah] ..
LEHRER: You see any -- do you have a major difference with what he just said?
OBAMA: No, actually, I think Senator McCain and I agree for the most part on these issues. [the setup!]
AND THEN: Obviously, I disagree with this notion that somehow we did not forcefully object to Russians going into Georgia. I immediately said that this was illegal and objectionable. [etc etc - directly disputing McCain's claim Obama didn't rebuke Russia.]
FOLLOWED BY: The second point I want to make is -- is the issue of energy. Russia is in part resurgent and Putin is feeling powerful because of petro-dollars, as Senator McCain mentioned. [etc ..]
And I have to say, Senator McCain and I, I think agree on the importance of energy, but Senator McCain mentioned earlier the importance of looking at a record.
Over 26 years, Senator McCain voted 23 times against alternative energy, like solar, and wind, and biodiesel.
And so we -- we -- we've got to walk the walk and not just talk the talk ..
[And all in all demonstrating that he is NOT naive ..]
Source:
Transcript of presidential debate
Hold on Cats, I'm trying to find the link.
Wow, All this time McCain has declared he will fight for America and suspend his campaign to help the little guy. Was it an illusion?
Now this is a really really good ad from Obama:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB48vTWsnII - "A Stronger Economy"
McStain wishes he could do something like that.
thelastword @ 72:
So they are going to get her an abortion!!?
I'll take that bet - maybe your house and mine together will be worth as much as mine was 2 years ago...
P.D. @ 76:
Nah, just a lie.
Ex-Canuck @ 78:
I'll cover it with some Countrywide stock...
Ok Janice, I'll stick around a bit longer.
fastfeat @ 71:
Thanks for the reminder. I noticed it when it happened (GW stopping the states from acting) but had forgotten it.
.. blood sucking bastards ..
Joe O. @ 45:
Guys, I hate to be the one to break it to you's but........sigh.....here goes....Let me get this all straight in my pointy Canadian head....you all think McCain's economic ideas are going to bankrupt the US (or moreso). Well, according to MSNBC, the big ol' package deal is as good as done. Oh and those Dem leaders, that I assume most on here support, are going to pass it IF it includes billions more than what Bushie wants. Now if that came with LESS for the bailout, I could see people supporting the Dems. But it doesn't. What it does is give the bailout PLUS billions more in debt. How does this really help? Debt is debt. And I quote:
fastfeat @ 80:
I'll put my WaMu stock up for collateral...
MaudeLebowski @ 64:
Not all AoG's are created equally. Some are just charismatic churches that believe strongly in the Holy Spirit's direct interaction with people today. This is what leads to the whole "speaking in tongues" and some other odd behavior. My parents belonged to one in Minnesota when I lived there in the 80's. Most of the folks in the church were decent enough people but there were the zealots. And that is the real danger, the zealots. Religous extremism in any form is dangerous. In the AoG (or I used to refer to it the Ass of God) the zealots are pretty whacked. Santa -- that's just Satan misspelled. Red clothing or shoes? You know who wears red, that's right -- Satan! Lipstick? Are you kidding, that's for the Whore of Babylon! In fact I was surprised to hear Saracuda was a hard-core AoG member and wore lipstick. Of course I haven't been to one in oh, nearly 30 years, so they might have dropped that prohibition.
Caribou Barbie represents the Christian zealotry that wants to turn this nation into a theocracy. They'll gladly use democracy to achieve their ends and once they have they'll make sure it never has a chance to recover.
Hey Cats, since I know you are readying yourself for sleepy time, I don't want to drag this out. But I'll get it.
Interestingly enough, I first saw this on the Yahoo headlines and followed from there. It was there for..who knows? An internet nanosecond or much longer which could be for hours.
I just re-googled and it's coming up with weirder shit which one could ALSO arguably say proves McCain is a nut bag.
But I know what I read and I will find it.
Expect to hear next week that Palin can’t debate because Bristol had a miscarriage.
If you think I’m wrong.
I’ll bet my house on it.
So they are going to get her an abortion!!?
No silly, Bristol is not preggars. She already had her baby. Trig
Cats:
Here you go:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080927/ap_on_el_pr/presidential_debate_7
Janice, if you find something, stop by my blog and post it as a comment. I'll look for it tomorrow. Thanks. Have a good evening. Just click on my underscored highlighted name and it will take you there.
MountainMan23 @ 82:
Mike Malloy was all over it when the bailout talk was getting heated a week or so ago.
Coincidence that Spitzer was one of the guys who was calling out ShrubCo on this, then magically has a scandal about some tail derail his efforts? I think not.
MountainMan23 @ 74:
Thanks for positing the example of the exchange. When thinking about it in that sort of way, then it does become a brilliant approach. I also think that it was pretty clever in the end.
But, I'm worried about the first impressions of what Obama did, that's all. I felt that it opened the door further for McCain to treat him badly. :(
You explaination has given me some comfortable about this style of debate--especially how it might seem once your read between the lines.
Janice R @ 67:
Cats r Flyfishn @ 88:
Janice R @ 86:
Mentioned here:
The Swamp: Obama, McCain debate: Closing a deal
And here:
AP: McCain to attend debate even without bailout deal
And here:
Gothamist: Giuliani's Firm is Ready for Bailout Business
(Includes picture of Giulianis & McCains boarding jet)
fastfeat @ 89:
It's only ok if you're a Republican to buy hookers. Just ask David Vitter...
fastfeat @ 89:
That's exactly what Palast uncovered when he wrote an article about what happened to Spitzer. It's a damn shame.
Gooooooooooo Mountain Man!! :)
I'll tell you another thing MountainMan23: reading those articles has made McCain into even more of a SOB than ever before. Not only that. It makes him a calculating, vicious SOB who is even worse than the monster that was presented during the debate.
Again, I ask, what makes this man honorable and a hero? Can anyone tell me?
ConcernedCanuck @ 83:
I can agree with you there. That spending bill will not make the U.S. debt situation better. In fact, it will make it much, much worse in my opinion. However, McCain's economic plan of putting into place a federal spending freeze while expanding the military could over time reduce the amount of U.S. debt but by the time that happens the U.S. society as a whole will be in ruins. A good portion of the population is in some way dependent on U.S. Government funded programs. Cut those totally off and the U.S. will have a whole host of other internal problems to deal with. Rampant unemployment, crime, other forms of civil unrest and the like are not out of the question. That is the basic problem I have with McCain's ideas. The Democrats though, look to bring the economy to the other extreme with a possible hyperinflationary depression down the road due to rampant borrowing, monetary printing and the like used to fund them. There needs to be a balance between both approaches in my view.
janice - you may find it by looking back through your browsing HISTORY...
What a joke ! It's a shame that there are so many dumb and ignorant that fall for this stuff .
Regarding the Repubs are plan for a big televised wedding of Palin's pregnant daughter, it would be great if they could be married by Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Soon after the wedding ceremony, I envision Todd Palin and Wright, both drunk, chanting "God Damn America!" but McCain puts an end to it by hitting Wright over the head with a folding chair.
Yeah, thanks Mountain Man. I knew I heard about Guili coming back into the picture, and there it is.
Dean Booth @ 99:
I don't know. McCain seemed to send that "God Damn America!" message himself last night while not wearing a flag pin. You know, the right wing gets when a politician doesn't wear a flag pin.
Joe O. @ 96:
What the Dems say, and what they actually do seem to be two exact opposite things on every major bill that they pretend to fight. And they seem to just LOVE themselves some extra military spending as well. This is also from the MSNBC article:
Taxpayers for Common Sense, a watchdog group, discovered 2,322 pet projects totaling $6.6 billion. That included 2,025 in the defense portion alone that cost a total of $4.9 billion. Critics of such “earmarks” promise to scrutinize them in coming weeks and months for links to lobbyists and campaign contributions.
That doesn't just quite smack of hypocrisy, if they are saying in this campaign that they are going to reign in spending, does it? It makes me think that I now understand why so many posters on here are not aligned to partisan politics. I realize the US law system is quite different than Canadian, but I cannot understand support for a party that seems to pork barrel as much or more than the Rethugs do.
Joe O. @ 96:
Bill Clinton balanced the budget and had a plan in place to pay off the national debt. Our entire national debt is 110% the fault of Republican Presidents. The Congress and Senate are just cheerleaders.
what happens if mccain drops out?
does that make palin the republican nominee?
upchuck @ 103:
And Bill Clinton supports McCain. So go figure.
StirFry @ 100:
And don't forget the Ghoul offering its "opinion" of the debate results on NBC (?) last night. I didn't watch or listen to what it had to say.
____
GNA--Sat. Night Dead is on--got to get some zzzzz's...
GN, fastfeat. :)
karen marie @ 104:
I don't even want to think about that. I'm getting ready to go bed here in a bit and I don't want to have the thought of a President Palin giving me nightmares. lol
karen marie @ 104:
Yes and No. Some states allow the parties to change the names on the ballots, provided that the party in questions pays for it; others, do not. A lot of states have had dead peoples names on the ballots.
I’m curious, will any of his suggestions for this bailout include a federal spending freeze he advocated last night?
I think not only a freeze is called for, but a reduction is called for especially in defense spending. Have we so few allies in the world that we need to spend 50% of world military expenditures? We want to start Cold War II over the notion that an independence movement in the breakaway provinces in Georgia is bad, while an independence movement in Alaska is OK? Ike warned about the military-industrial complex gaining undue influence, and that has certainly seized our economy.
I think McCain is only stating the obvious that is going to tie Obama's hands too. We're going to have to learn to live within our means. Much of our national debt is financed by foreigners, and they're not going to continue to lend (at reasonable interest rates) if they expect to be paid back in a severely devalued dollar. Then, it's live within our means, or print currency like a banana republic. We have become a subprime debtor nation.
Defense requires a strong army, navy, marines, air force, and an economy that can pay for it. I think the last item has been damaged, maybe for good, because of free trade and deficits. Therefore, our role as the world's policeman, where we can unilaterally engage in nation building has ended. McCain's nation building initiative is called "rouge state rollback" and has aboard Randy Scheunemann from PNAC, architects of a "Benevolent Global Hegemony" policy. He has promised more wars, hasn't he? And he says if he knew then what he knew then, he'd do Iraq again. What we know now is that Iraq was pure nation building, not a response to a national security threat. So, in deciding who to vote for in November, it would be a good thing to consider whether we can continue to afford nation building. And we know the answer to that - we cannot.
Is it me, or is that a creepy smile?
McCain makes me very nervous. He seems to have knee-jerk reactions to everything and then spouts his mouth off before he's thought it through (i.e. "the fundamentals of our economy are strong"), only to have to reverse or qualify what he said (i.e., "I was referring to our workforce"). I'm impressed that Obama takes the time to get gather all the facts before he says anything. He comes across as very "Presidential". As much as i respect John McCain (and I really do), he's just past it and seems desparate to say and do anything to get the votes. I don't want an impulsive president at the wheel! Anyway, I'll be so relieved when this whole thing is over and we can get back to our own lives. I only hope that most of us still HAVE a life to get back to once the Wall Street "fall out" starts coming down!
"McCain Now Says He’ll Negotiate The Bailout Via Cell Phone"
The reason McAncient didn't think of using the phone is that he was born before Alexander Graham Bell invented it.
I was really disappointed by Barack Obama at the debate. I expected more, what a disappointment. I’m glad I watched the debate last night because it was the nail in the coffin for me. I was leaning Barack's way but after last night I will support McCain.
When they asked the real tough questions, he just seemed like he wanted to please everyone. Sometimes you have to make the tough decisions. I feel like he will be one of those politicians that can not make a decision on his own. I saw this today and it was sick but true. : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec3aC8ZJZTc
(_(_) @ 111:
VERY creepy! He's like the crypt-keeper he's so out of touch with the reality the majority of Americans live in which is another trait he has in common with W.
Let's face it: the man is a total phony.
Mike the Riverine @ 113:
"McAncient"!! love it!! I don't understand why he WANTS to be Pres at the age of 72. I'm only 50 & am already looking forward to retirement!
This was a stunt to try to get that VP debate cancelled.
If the Pres. debate was changed to next week theres no way the VP debate could be held in such a short time.
The O campaign didn't fall for that right wing trick!
O/B*08
I used to cut this old fart some slack because as a fellow Vietnam vet, I respected his Ex-POW status. But I'll tell you, I saw better men than him bleeding and suffering in the Mekong Delta, and one of them commanded a Swift Boat and ran for President in 2004.
Part of a soldiers/sailors code involves honor and as far as I'm concerned, McCain has abandoned his honor. He therefore no longer deserves my respect.
And, yes, I'm an old fart too, but at least I'm COOL!
but he’s going to stay in Washington instead of going out to campaign? Does any of this make sense?
It's his addiction that drives McSame to say one stupid thing and do another stupid thing. It's that addiction that has changed him and his entire political life.
That addiction? Lobbyists, lobbyist money and lots of lobbyist hookers.
kizztel @ 116:
Troll Alert!
You never supported Obama you LIAR!
McCain's a phony.
Ok, we all know that McCain was a POW and I believe that we ALL respect and regard him highly for what he went through. BUT, that doesn't mean that he would make a good President!
motorfingaz @ 123:
Come on, were you watching the same debate I was last night? He was flustered, didn't have answers about national security and foreign policy. He looks great on the outside but there is nothing substantial there when he was asked the tough questions. I expected more, he is no Bill Clinton.
Wait a minute! This is a bogus news story. I call BS!
McCain is unable to type on a keyboard because he was a POW - so of course he couldn't possible use the tiny keypad on a cell phone.
You kids leave the old wrinkly dude alone!
Does the prehistoric fucker even know HOW to use a cell phone?
this is a poll on AOL cover page.
opinion about sarah palin?455,021 votes
mostly neg. 53%
mostly pos. 39%
neutral 8%
how has opinion opinion changed in last 2 weeks?434,562 votes
gotten worse 53%
hasn't changed 29%
gotten better 18%
I think he has a medical issue that he returned to Washington to have checked out.
The only other possibility I can think of for such odd behavior is that he is trying to create a grand illusion, but the bits keep fraying around the edges.
I think McCain is in DC for medical treatment of some kind. Four of us watching the debate were convinced that he was either medicated or on performance enhancing drugs. He was blinking like crazy, jittery, seemingly not in control of his facial muscles at times. He can't legitimately take time off from the campaign, partly because he's got something to hide about his medical condition, and partly because he's been telling us that he's got the stamina of a racehorse, like his mother. So he claimed to "suspend", and tried to cancel the debate. He's sick, irrational, desperate.
I'm tired of the Democrat vs. Republican BS. Did you know today the Neanderthals of DC passed (78-12 vote) a $634 billion measure for the Spend-O-Matic Bushitron to sign.
The Democrats are the Republicans best secret friends in the world, they get all tough on camera and then give the Repuglickends everything they want behind closed doors. Taxpayers for Common Sense, a watchdog group, discovered 2,322 conservative pet projects totaling $6.6 billion. That included 2,025 in the defense portion alone that cost a total of $4.9 billion.
OH YEAH and they get drill for oil now. F******G SPINELESS WEENIES! $634 billion and this isn't the damn bailout package whci is going to rape the dollar endlessly into oblivion. If they pass that monster of stupidity then in just two days they will have approved over a trillion in debt.
That is over $1,000,000,000,000 in spending in 2 days. Well that's only 5.6 million a second. SHIT
What is this!
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/28/us/politics/28gambling-web.html?_r=1&h...
motorfingaz @ 123:
Yep, it's a troll alright. I have the debate, but haven't watched it yet, but the consensus was that it didn't change anything in the polls negatively for Obama. Since this was supposed to be the foreign policy debate, where Obama was perceived to be the weakest, a draw is fine for Obama. The polls actually show a slight bounce for Obama. "Barely Dems" have improved to a "Weak Dems" and "Weak Repub" have deteriorated to "Barely Repub".
The economy figures in this - with the republican ideologues pandering deregulation, let the market place decide, etc..., the economy has been damaged, which pays for our military spending, the stick that accompanies the carrot in foreign policy. The economy permeates all the issues. So, yep, that's a troll alert. Let's all agree, along with Senator McCain that the sun truly rises in the east, and sets in the west....
kizztel @ 116:
You are kidding? Right?
Dave
Viet Vet
adding insult to injury, johnny mclame continues to lower his approval rating day after friggin day....
McCain never showed up at Capitol Hill for bailout negotiations today.»
After declaring he’d return to Washington to help with the bailout negotiations immediately after last night’s debate, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) never went to Capitol Hill today. In fact, McCain stayed largely holed up in his Arlington apartment, leaving only to go to his campaign headquarters just around the block, the New York Times reports:
Asked why Mr. McCain did not go to Capitol Hill after coming back to Washington to help with negotiations, [McCain adviser] Mr. Salter replied that “he can effectively do what he needs to do by phone.’’
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http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/27/mccain-in-arlington/
boy is letterman gonna be PISSED on Monday.
Dave @ 132:
I helped my mom stuff envelopes for Gerald Ford when I was a kid, comments like that are the modern day version of the same thing. Look at it closely, it came straight out of some GOP campaign HQ, probably not even typed but just copy/paste from a text file.
chris [not the troll] @ 134:
Agreed, a fake conversation. ABout 10 years ago I worked for a marketing company (IT guy) that would copy and paste pre-canned bogus conversations on ailing penny stocks to try and pump the interest up. If they'll do it for to manipulate a stock, you know they'll do it for a preseidential candidate in a heart beat.
And why should McCain wheel and deal Senate Maverick authority by cell phone. Its about time. I imagine having all those lobbyists around doing their lobbying helped McCain learn how to use a cell phone.
So let me get this straight. This is the worst financial crisis in a century there is no time to loose. . . the world is crashing down around us. . . McCain is the man to fix it. . . but he's gonna phone it in?
Wow.
If America got attacked and he's President, will he be phoning that work in too?
Well ya know...
Thank evolution for republicans: "At the insistence of House Republicans, some of the program's $700 billion would be devoted to a program that would encourage holders of distressed mortgage-backed securities to keep them and buy government insurance to cover defaults"
McCain meant it when he said he would freeze all spending on everything but the military. We already live in a dictatorship. McCain just wants to make sure it's a military dictatorship. Get ready for the Blackwater death squads in the new banana republic of America.
As far as I'm concerned the only reason to hope McCain drops Palin is on the off chance he'll win the election. She's hurting him where another choice might not. If you're serious about wanting Obama in the White House then Palin is certainly helping.
So basically I want her to tread that fine line between being a heavy anchor but not heavy enough to leave behind. Besides, she's an endless source of amusement.
Dave @ 132:
Did you just tune into this 2-year campaign this weekend??? Obama thinks. John McCain dashes off for photo-ops. Like, didn't he just diss David Letterman, just the other night, to fly to Washington and save the planet (except he looked like a useless bump on a log, sitting there, all senile looking.)
John McCain would screw-up a two car funeral procession
Am I allowed to call this bozo a douchebag? Please advise.
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/2350/mccaincellphone1kv6.jpg
Did you say cellphone ???
That pic of him at the debate not looking at OB when he shook his hand, reminded me of Uncle Fester. Every day he comes out with a new plot twist. He though OB would suspend his campaign while he really didn't. Staying in Washington and carrying out his campaign by phone is the next stupid human trick. He's like the old grampy at Xmas who drags out the harmonica and does a jig.
I wonder if this week the Palin pull out (of the nomination) story wll grow legs.
The images of McCain getting more crazy and Palin more dumber must be made into huge, viral news bytes so that it gets into the public psyche. Hope the comedians work extra overtime in the next few weeks. It needs to become trendy to diss them and embarrassing to vote for them. It's that simple folks.
idleuser @ 29:
If McCain is doing all this high-level negotiating by phone, why does he have to be in Washington??
Is he using two bean-cans and a long string??
There are phones all over the world. Does John McCain know that the new-fangled technology for phones has spread.............all over the country, indeed all over the world????
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