Presidential Debate: McCain Doesn't Know Ike
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Was anyone else surprised by the prodigious number of non sequiturs that marked John McCain's debate performance...from the gratuitous Ted Kennedy reference (also out of date, as Kennedy had already left the hospital an hour before the debate began) to turning the entire 40 minute discussion on the economy into a rant about earmarks and federal spending, as if the financial crisis would in any way be alleviated by eliminating earmarks (not to mention some of the critical infrastructure improvements made via earmarks, it's not all Sarah Palin's study of halibut harvesting)?
One of the strangest non sequiturs came in the beginning when McCain brought up Eisenhower on the eve of the Normandy Invasion:
You've mentioned President Dwight David Eisenhower. President Eisenhower, on the night before the Normandy invasion, went into his room, and he wrote out two letters. One of them was a letter congratulating the great members of the military and allies that had conducted and succeeded in the greatest invasion in history, still to this day, and forever. And he wrote out another letter, and that was a letter of resignation from the United States Army for the failure of the landings at Normandy.
Somehow we've lost that accountability. I've been heavily criticized because I called for the resignation of the chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission. We've got to start also holding people accountable, and we've got to reward people who succeed.
The problem is, as Will Bunch points out, McCain doesn't know his history and doesn't realize that it's easy to fact check:
First of all, here is the second and thankfully unnecessary letter that General Eisenhower wrote on the eve of D-Day. As you can probably see, it concludes with the words, "If any blame is found attached to the attempt, it is mine alone." In other words, he never offered to resign. Where McCain got that idea from, I have no idea. Wasn't that remark prepared in advance?
Of course, the funny thing is that he didn't really call for the SEC chairman to resign either. He said that if he were the president, he would fire him -- even though it came out that the president doesn't really have the authority to fire to SEC chairman. He never called for the chairman (Christopher Cox) to resign.
I would agree with one thing, that we've got to start holding people accountable. John McCain, I hold you accountable...for not telling the truth.
Transcripts below the fold
LEHRER: Are you going to vote for the plan, Senator McCain?
MCCAIN: I -- I hope so. And I...
LEHRER: As a United States senator...
MCCAIN: Sure.
LEHRER: ... you're going to vote for the plan?
MCCAIN: Sure. But -- but let me -- let me point out, I also warned about Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and warned about corporate greed and excess, and CEO pay, and all that. A lot of us saw this train wreck coming.
But there's also the issue of responsibility. You've mentioned President Dwight David Eisenhower. President Eisenhower, on the night before the Normandy invasion, went into his room, and he wrote out two letters.
One of them was a letter congratulating the great members of the military and allies that had conducted and succeeded in the greatest invasion in history, still to this day, and forever.
And he wrote out another letter, and that was a letter of resignation from the United States Army for the failure of the landings at Normandy.
Somehow we've lost that accountability. I've been heavily criticized because I called for the resignation of the chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission. We've got to start also holding people accountable, and we've got to reward people who succeed.
But somehow in Washington today -- and I'm afraid on Wall Street -- greed is rewarded, excess is rewarded, and corruption -- or certainly failure to carry out our responsibility is rewarded.
As president of the United States, people are going to be held accountable in my administration. And I promise you that that will happen.
Please resign, Mr McHonor
leave grandpa alone - he can't use the internets and google
What Up?
Avoid all needle drugs, the only dope worth shooting is (fill in the blank)
Frist! Faust! Fast! Fargh!!!
"I knew Dwight Eisenhower. I was best friends with his father. Sen. Obama is no Dwight Eisenhower.
There was another case where a question was asked and McCain started rambling off some long story that didn't have anything to do with the question. But I guess it didn't make too much of an impression, I can't even remember what either the question or the story was.
Maybe that's his trick -- cancel out the questions with anti-responses so that everyone forgets he was even there.
Then they get in the voting booth and look at the names and go "McCain? HE'S running? Hmmm, maybe I should vote for him!"
We talking about McCain or Swimsuit Comnpetition Sarah?
"But somehow in Washington today — and I’m afraid on Wall Street — greed is rewarded, excess is rewarded, and corruption — or certainly failure to carry out our responsibility is rewarded."
Obviously, take bush and cheney for instance.
We have to remember that in Bizarro-McCain world, everything he said was true.
The entire debate was one big non sequitur.
Neither of these guys has the courage to actually answer a direct question...it'd be comical if it weren't so pathetic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AHjmrlEugo
I mean come on already.
Sort of a philosophical question:
If a liar lies, and nobody bothers questioning those lies, don't the lies then become the truth?
And therein lies the problem with the "news" media today.
L.A. Confidential @ 11:
Come on indeed. I give her a 9.9. (It'd be a 10 except for the watermelon colored swimsuit...Eeeuuuuuu.)
Well, slow here, I'm off to breakfast and some coffee (and a few aspirin)
Arrivederci i miei amici del produttore.
L.A. Confidential @ 11:
I know it says 1984, but why does she have the body of a 45-year-old? Does anybody have the question and answer segment of the competition? That's got to be priceless.
♠♠...Bangkok Bob...♠♠ @ 4:
soupy sales in a dunk tank?
McCain telling the truth. That's like saying Bush told us the truth the last 7 years plus. It's the GOP mantra. LIES, LIES and more LIES.
They can only run on lies, their record is painfully a failure; the biggest American failure ever.
This campaign speaks to the heart of Americans, real Americans will not lie to themselves any further. Independents are not dumb lock step GOP like voters; the time has run out for any decency or redemption from the McCain camp, instead Independents are witnessing the continuation of the side drama show that McCain offers.
The truth is, McCain has shown how he will run the country if he wins; and Palin, painfully pathetic and equally a liar (and an embarrassment to all woman of both parties; I yearn for GOP mothers, sisters, daughters, politicians to distance themselves from this insult of a vice presidential pick).
Americans in the end will make a just and intelligent choice; only the GOP defends a traitorous administration that forsakes a CIA operative for political gains (how dare they call themselves Americans); only the GOP says they defend the troops and provides no support for troop numbers, health care, equipment, ...(how dare they call themselves Americans); only the GOP guts our economy and then brings out their trite accusations on everyone but themselves who have caused this.
History will judge them for the traitors that they are, for bring America to this brink.
Independents are not weak Puritan Sexy drooling clones, they are not the bandwagon minions of idiots that feed on the purulent knee deep excrement that spews out of these desperate and weak propagandist (like fox news).
It is disgusting that so many Americans align themselves to these tactics and this administration's continuation of its policies.
God bless America, because satan has a hold on the GOP.
Accountable, you know, like when someone carelessly crashes a jet. Or 2. Or 3. Or 4. Or 5.
carly fiorina, an abysmal failure, wrote a book on how she was screwed by the old boys network...never once taking responsibilty for what happened to hp under her watch
and carly was until recently one of the main spokespersons for the mccain campaign and remains a close advisor
are people really buying into his bs??? seriously?
I found the Kennedy remark odd - almost like Obama SHOULD have mentioned this, so I'll pawn him on it...
Don't know shit, either.
I would like to say McCain doesn't know DICK, but I won't.
bamboozled @ 14:
you have to remember, competitions then had the girls all wearing pretty ugly one piece suits....and she is an athlete, so she has a pretty stocky bod....but a great ass
bet you can still bounce quarters off it
bamboozled @ 14:
She was only 20 there? NFW! Looks older than she does now 24 years later.
bamboozled @ 14:
sorry...forgot to mention
there is a dude in juneau with the entire tape....he is holding off on the talent and q&a parts
Jo @ 20:
He knows DICK, but he won't go hunting with him.
btw, mccain did call for a resignation....
the following day, he called for the chairman of the FEC to resign
you know, the more i think about it, the better it was that obama let the old fool prattle on
McSame -- Please "walk the talk" on accountability by firing Rick Davis for continuing to collect lobbying payments while serving as you campaign managers! Calling you a 'has-been" would be a misnomer as you have never been anything in your life. It is amazing your entire career has been due to your failures as a fighter pilot.
xoites defends Constitution @ 24:
2 bad.
Personally, I like having Gramps f*ck up all his historical references. I'm sure that some of those mistakes will ring like gunfire in the ears of some of his elderly supporters (and to a lesser extent, younger people who know their history).
Most younger people, I assume, just tune out the war stories as they would their own senile grandpa at the Thanksgiving dinner table.
The natives are getting restless:
http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-95769
Ha!
the gratuitous Ted Kennedy reference ...
my take - he did that to embarrass obama for NOT bringing it up... or something weird...
it was weird.
Jo @ 27:
Heck, he has experience being a target.
Saying that he would fire the SEC Chairman Cox was another stunt. One of many it is turning out. Even George Will said that McGrampy saying he would fire Cox was a shoot from the hip bullshit stunt. Cox had nothing to do with the sub prime nonsense. Then the next day or maybe it was two days later McShame called Cox the head of the FAA Nec or was it the NRA or maybe the FCC or some bullshit.
Gee, I wonder if McCain recalls this warning Ike gave in 1961...if we'd only listened then:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHfuCCbVP-I
Senate sends $612 billion defense bill to Bush.
Your signature please.
Eisenhower didn't say as Rumsfeld did “You go to war with the army you have—not the army you might want or wish to have at a later time." He trained the army he knew he would have to have. There was no rush to judgement on Ike's part. So the idea of John "bomb, bomb, bomb Iran" McCain is using Eisenhower as a role model must have Ike spinning in his grave.
The true irony is that he is using a erroneous anecdote about personal accountability and applying it to a situation where he has taken none (his part in deregulation); instead pointing the finger at someone else
Hey! You guys and gals wanna know the Top 10 Reasons McCain bailed out on Letterman?:
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=3455
And check out what 1 QUADRILLION'S worth!!! (Said in an Austin Powers, "Dr. Evil" voice..."1 QUAD-RIIIILLLLION DOLLARS!!!!!!"):
http://www.prisonplanet.com/1-quadrillion-of-unregulated-debt-at-core-of...
bamboozled @ 14:
Thats was looking good back then....this does not paint her in ant better of light.
Mccain looked weak, confused, angry, racist for not looking at Obama and defiant. His talking points and lame ass stories bored people to tears. He lost the debate and is on the way to the dustbin of history. Gobama!
... when McCain brought up Eisenhower on the eve of the Normandy Invasion:
so, lehrer didn't bring it up?
i caught that, and tried to think of when lehrer mentioned eisenhower... set me straight, please!
Why tell the truth when you are so accustomed to lying? I won't repeat the whole list of lies that are part of the history of this poor excuse for a man. He lives in the past of is hero status. He long ago defamed that status and is anything but a hero today. He is a total disgrace to the uniform he once wore, and to those who wear it proudly today. I have a few words for him from the musical "1776" SIT DOWN JOHN! ( and shut the hell up!)
seriously @ 21:
i'm not alone then...
katy @ 43:
I didn't recall Lehrer mention Eisenhower either. It was one of the (several) times I wondered what sort of f'ed up moderation we had!
McCain didn't finish 5th from the bottom for nothing! My guess is that he skipped Military History classes at the Naval Academy.
As an officer and a gentleman he may missed a few lectures as well. ie temper control
McCain's got a little more 'splainin to do.
But Tucker Bounds sets the record straight.
NY Times: McCain and Team Have Many Ties to Gambling Industry
john mccain used that story before... on the day after he called for the firing of cox -- the next day after everyone had to tell him the president can't fire cox, he then pulled that story out to say that cox needed to resign.
i heard it...so i know it's something he's said before.
wasn't it eisenhower's granddaughter who spoke at the dem convention?
maybe she'll have something to say about his "gaffe"...
If McCain holds accountability so highly why hasn't he led the charge against the current administration? Instead of giving Dubya a big hug he should be slapping on a set of cuffs and frog marching him to prison. Face up to it McCain, you are no maverick and your so called mantra of putting country first is nothing but a boast. You sold out to the religious right and will sell out a convenient scapegoat instead of going after the real traitors of our country. No matter who wins the election come November, I pray that they investigate the Bush administration.
fastfeat @ 46:
I found the transcript & searched for "Eisenhower".
McCain mentioned Eisenhower first, here.
katy @ 45:
I had the same impression: cheap, underhanded, sleazy one-upsmanship.
i was just going for the transcript, mountainman... don't have to, thanks!
MountainMan23 @ 52:
Link?
To me, this was like one of those annoying "olympic moments" that they play to gain sympathy for the athlete so you know that they have to travel blah blah blah miles to get to the gym, under sniper fire, only to find that their leotard is to small, and then they got a rash on their ass and missed their dismount and lost at the nationals.
That shit was academy award winning pathos if ever I saw one.
Republicans have a warped twisted version of history.
I've even met ones that don't believe any of the founding fathers were Catholics.
49% of the population will think that if The Maverick said it it must be true, and the history books have been altered by the radical LIEberals just to make him look bad. Oh, also that Obama bin Hussein will invite terrists to the White House for a sleepover so they can plot the destruction of 'Murica.
I've read my fair share about WW2. Being too lazy to crack a book in my library, I tried to track down Ike's "second dispatch" online last night after McCain referred to it. I actually second guessed myself, wondering if I was unaware of a written resignation from Eisenhower that was common knowledge, had the Great Gamble failed. Thanks, Nicole, for the link to Bunch, and for further exposing McCain for the enfeebled posuer (sic) he is, and always has been.
fastfeat @ 55:
CNN: Transcript of presidential debate
MountainMan23 @ 60:
Thanks MM.
MountainMan23 @ 48:
this is like a scene right out of the sopranos
tony helps out an indian gaming casino, gets comped up the wazoo
mccain is as crooked as any pol can be...he just hides it through his faux outrage at earmarks
it was only a few months ago that mccain was calling the press "my base"
this is what happens when you challenge, then piss off the press
funny how mcsame never once quotes ike on the evils of the military industrial complex
Longtooth @ 59:
the man didnt finish 4th from the bottom of his class for nothing
wonder what his scores were in military history
Sorry if slightly OT, but can a translator explain this shit to me:
From McCane's opening remark yesterday:
"And, yes, I went back to Washington, and I met with my Republicans in the House of Representatives. And they weren't part of the negotiations, and I understand that. And it was the House Republicans that decided that they would be part of the solution to this problem.
But I want to emphasize one point to all Americans tonight. This isn't the beginning of the end of this crisis. This is the end of the beginning, if we come out with a package that will keep these institutions stable.
And we've got a lot of work to do. And we've got to create jobs. And one of the areas, of course, is to eliminate our dependence on foreign oil."
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I missed the first couple of minutes of the debate, so this shit is new to me. WTF does he mean??
I must’ve been watching a different debate than almost half the people in America. In my version, McCain pitifully (a word not used loosely) delivered 90 minutes of prepared poppycock a la Nathan Thurm. His body language was screaming, his strategy was cratering and his namedropping tactics were failing. My emotions were like a roller coaster. I went from lol-ing to empathetic sadness to utter disbelief to shock and to awe. I thought he’d have no choice after this debacle other than be a hero, resign, and slink away.
How can anyone with any sense of logic decide that McCain did a good job on any level in that debate or, for that matter, voting for McC/Pal?
fastfeat @ 65:
Well, when I was in college, many years ago, a guy who went on like this was usually drunk and was said to be "talking out of his ass."
I hope that clarifies it for you.
Amitola @ 67:
Thanks. I knew my three weeks of sobriety was having some ill effects on my brain...
fastfeat @ 65:
very good question
when i heard this on the radio, i felt like banging my head against the dash board
it doesnt mean anything
its just fear tactics mixed in with bs
someone needs to ask the senator, how drilling here, now and everywhere will create jobs
cuz that is his only plan to reduce our dependence on foreign oil
and they laff when obama talks about creating jobs through green tech....they laffed at carter too....and had we followed his energy plan, we may never have gone into iraq, or elected lapdogs of the saudis
i wonder if any thug has figured that accountability begins with the words one utters...?
I'm glad you posted on McCain's incoherence, Nicole, because I routinely cannot follow him, and I often feel alone on that. If the truth be known, I find Biden a little incoherent too.
But I think McCain was otherwise effective with this Eisenhower point because he connected himself in an emotional way with his audience, me, anyway. And I detest the guy.
But you have to admit that McCain really has the pathos appeal down cold. I'm with those who think that at his core he's a drama queen.
Somehow we’ve lost that accountability. I’ve been heavily criticized because I called for the resignation of the chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission. We’ve got to start also holding people accountable, and we’ve got to reward people who succeed.
So what part of Donald Rumsfeld's performance was not a failure, because I don't recall McCain calling for his head?
McCain is demonstrating that the surest way to make a frustrated old dog show his true colors is to back him into a corner (*snarl* *bite* *growl*)
Besides being exposed as an unstable old bully, McCain showed himself in the debate to also be an angry, dishonest little ankle-biter.
Obama needs to treat him as such in the next debate and he needs to train for it with some grumpy, old Vietnam Vets – you know, the ones who think McCain's a liar and a traitor (like me).
When McCain was bragging about all the countries he visited and all the leaders he's met Obama could have shut all that down simply by saying: "McCain has visited all of these countries and met with all of these leaders but none of that seemed to help him when his poor judgment told him to invade Iraq in the first place.
Senator McCain was one of the first proponents of an invasion and was in favor of war even before the Bush Administration started beating their own War Drums.
And now he seems to be already beating war drums against Iran and what I'd like to ask Senator McCain is, what makes your judgment any more credible to the American people today than it was before the start of the Iraq War? Shouldn't you admit when you are wrong?
I'll answer that for you......yada yada."
u know, something like that...
Was anyone else surprised by the prodigious number of non sequiturs that marked John McCain’s debate performance?
No, I don't believe this was surprising. This is McCain's debating style.
I'm not being snide here. What makes McCain a dangerous debater--or at least has in the past--is that he's very random with his facts. I'm not calling him a liar, either (though I think he is, often); when he's questioned on a topic, he throws a lot of extaneous facts in--off-topic, but all elements that could be considered attacks. This forces his opponent to have to answer not just the question that was posed by the moderator, but also all the random attacks. His opponent's time then gets eaten up, and he can never really adequately answer any of the charges.
This style worked well in the Republican primaries--the field was weak, and none of the hard-core conservative candidates excited the base (the only candidate who could outmaneuver McCain at times was Ron Paul). It didn't, interestingly enough, against bush in '00--because bush clung so stubbornly to his own inane talking points, as though they explained everything. I think this frustrated McCain. He got angry. Put this together with the perception by Republicans that he was really a "rino," and Rove's underhanded tricks, and McCain eventually got drubbed (or screwed, depending on how you look at it).
Obama handled him well by essentially doing what bush did--except instead of just repeating things like "I love Jeebus," Obama was polite. Factual, but polite. McCain got his licks in, but it made him look mean-spirited, if knowledgable. Obama looked calm--and knowledgable.
The focus groups of undecideds agreed that both men were "presidential material" (which was great for Obama), but one was easier to like than the other, and that throws the "win" to Obama--or at least it seems.
My $.02.
every time i critize america as being imperialistic on the huff post i get deleted
even the liberal media are imperialists and dont want it mentioned
bet the same thing happened in germany in 1939
wanna bet
also bet the germans called their soldiers heros after the invasion of poland
wanna bet
we killed one million vietnamese and did not bat an eye in that other illegal war
mc war would have bombed every man woman and child in vietnam to win that war based on lies and deception
americans wake up we are the bad guys in the world
ike warned us but no one listened
If we started holding people accountable, we would clear the entire Bush administration, beginning with King George II. This is so obvious a statement, I suspect the sentiment has been expressed by many others already. I am too tired to check.
I'm sorry but I have to hold my guy accountable for not jumping down McCain's throat for lying about asking for Cox's resignation. He said he would fire Cox! A quarter century in Congress, and you did not know the President can't do that! C'mon Barney, stop telling me how much you admire this liar; this public, verifiable, just-said-it-a-week-ago-on-TV liar, and nail his ass to the waterboard for liars!
Was anyone else surprised by the prodigious number of non sequiturs that marked John McCain’s debate performance…from the gratuitous
Whoa there, frenchie.
Lying is Mother's Milk to re-Thug-lics ~~
Re-thug-lics -- the party of immature, voraciously rapacious, despotic, doughy white, cowardly, angry, bigots, racists, perverts, xenophobes, pedophiles, murderers, war criminals, homophobes, misogynists, stupid women, fetid wombs.
OH - and Consummate Chronic Liars.
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katy @ 50:
If Ike was alive today, he would be a Democrat,; and he would be the first to denounce the GOP for being a bunch of rich, elitist, cowardly, military industrial complex scumbags.
Teddy Roosevelt and Lincoln would be democrats too! The modern day republican party is unfit for anyone who has a conscience, or even an inkling of morals.
Great song-- spread it around:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BZCXLEEsws
I've always liked IKE. When I was 4 years old, I saluted him as he passed our family by while at West Point attending graduation ceremonies but I digress. I've heard the story about the letters before and appreciate you putting it into the context of how McCain used it. And yes, I picked up instantly on the Ted Kennedy reference, whoops out of touch again, and the role earmarks can pay towards occasionally funding worthwhile projects. While the Bridge to Nowhere was a pretty stupid idea, repairing another bridge, for example, one that connects New York City with the rest of the world wouldn't be nor would beefing up Port Security in Newark, NJ. Projects like that would be in everyone's best interest. Once again, its the ole GOP ploy, "I'll tell you what you want to hear and if you elect me, I won't do a damn thing for you."
MacDaKnife @ 75:
Well said! McCain was pandering to the American people. Of course he WILL hold people accountable just not the President he's voted with 90% of the time.
RobertD @ 73:
No wonder McCain claims to admire Ronald Reagan over all other presidents. Reagan the Debater never let facts get in his way either. He frustrated his opponents by doggingly reciting rote talking points, telling irrelevant folk tales to butress his claims.
It didn't matter that the day after the debate, fact checkers found that any figures Reagan related were wrong, and that his folksy tales were either pure Bullshit, or (as was often the case) were cribbed from the script of some old Hollywood movie, or were taken from a speech he gave years ago on the fried chicken circuit.
No, what mattered was that millions of voters thought, "well he certainly seems presidential." Only a handful ever read the rebuttals the next day.
So, don't expect McCain to get any heat from Joe Public on his twisting Ike's autobiography or his gaffe about the SEC chief.
Pleasant @ 66:
If Rebublicans had any brains, they'd be Democrats.
the lesson the dems and libs have yet to learn, the info doesn't have to be correct, you cite numerous instances where mccain put info out that was not necessarily true but it was spun well, it doesn't have to be true, it only need to be put out there with a sincere face that will appeal to middle america. i watched the debate, and before the pundits declared that both candidates came out winners with neither delivering a death blow. i like to review my own thoughts before i am swayed by what the so-called experts think. so my thoughts, obama put out good clear info and was forthright in what he had to say. He was factually and pragmatically correct in what he put forth. kudos to him. however, he has to know his audience. his audience does not care about what is factually correct. they care about who had the heartwarming little stories and whether that person sounded sincere when he told them, whether they were true or not. In this case McCain did what he set out to do. Someone must have advised him not to reference his time in Hanoi too much because as i recall there was only one reference to it. so i'mn going to go against what the pundits have put out there. in my opinion and especially in view of the audience they were trying to reach, mccain dumbed it down and won this debate. i felt that strongly in watching the debate then was swayed to think that perhaps it was a draw by the pundits, who picked it apart immediately following it, and now a few days later, i'm back to thinking that mccain won it over again, with his "sincere" face. he needs to be "poked" enough so that his temper shows through and mistakes will be made. then we will know that the man who would have his finger on the button is actually a loose cannon.
Either the Ike letter is a fraud - or Ike was drunk - it was dated July 5th - a full month after D-Day? I can't stand McCain but let's not manufacturer lies
John McCain also promises to look out after vets. What about the vets he's had thrown out of his "town hall meetings" for asking the Senator why he has voted against bills supporting vets. Oh! By looking out for vets he means throwing them out on their duff while the Senator yells, Look out!
I agree with the people who've noted that McCain talks a lot about accountability without taking responsibility for his own mistakes.
McCain also said "we’ve got to reward people who succeed." That's funny coming from a guy who, like George W., has never been particularly successful at anything. McCain and Bush are both life-long srew-ups who would never have made it to the top without family money and family connections.
I was a little disturbed by the fact that McCain has gone so far in this election, being that it doesn't appear his brain functions properly. It looked to me as if he had been coached and practiced a few paragraphs in various ways of saying them. His answer to every question was pretty much the same, and none of them really ever addressed the question he was being asked. not directly anyway. He wants to do a lot of finger pointing, and couldn't explain why he would prefer the people who should be paying the most amount of taxes (who aren't even people, but corporations) should be paying the least. i was pretty neutral on this election until watching the debate.
If you paid close attention to the debate, Barack referred to McCain as simply "John" and NOT as "Senator McCain"
One definition of the word "resignation" is accepting something as inevitable. McCain was saying that in the second letter that Eisenhower wrote, the US Army was admitting and accepting that the landings at Normandy were a failure.
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