Natural Love And New York
Let's avoid one thing henceforth and forever: When discussing gay marriage, let us never let anyone get away with suggesting a lifelong bond between a man and woman is particularly "natural."
It's true. Bonobos share 98 percent of our DNA, and they f like bunnies wish they could f when they're having f-ing contests.
Our closest living relatives are to f-ing what beavers are to building dams--specialists with a passion that looks a lot like pleasure. So, you rarely see our closest genetic relatives in zoos, their cages quickly deteriorate into a non-stop scat-enthusiast free-free-for-all f-fest that traumatizes children and seniors. That's God's Perfect Creature for you, untouched by culture.
These so-called "hippie chimps" reap all sorts of benefits from the practice of nonstop chimp f-ery in lieu of marriage. They don't have wars, they have strong familial bonds, and everybody gets laid.
So from now on, before you point a steely finger of judgment at another person's "naturalness," smell those fingers. Do they smell like the inside of another person? If not, you need to be more natural.
Almost 50 years ago, Sherwood Washburn, the pioneering anthropological primatologist, observed that primate sexuality was not merely promiscuous, but positively indiscriminate.
is it hot in here?
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. ~ Abraham Lincoln
read here.
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One of the theories is that it reduces infanticide. You just don't know who's offspring is who's....
They are the original love monkeys....
You're a class act Cobb.
Insanity , it is what it is , there is no understanding it .
Don't ask me, I made tuna salad this morning.
typing with those fingers, Kreskin. You can do better.
DOMA is defined by a marriage between one man and ONE WOMAN. How do Mormons support that?
the mainstream LDS church holds that there was divine inspiration in 1890 that they shouldn't be allowing plural marriage. Or, technically, they were divinely inspired to proclaim that they DIDN'T support plural marriage, which was completely untrue, and in fact, it just sort of went underground for 14 years, until they said it all over again, this time for REALS.
It's only the smallish splinter offshoots from this time that still practice it -- but even while it was going full-force, it was a touchy subject. Joseph Smith's son while President of the church tried claiming that Dear Old Dad was in no way a polygamist (though it's pretty well established he had at least a couple dozen wives, as young as 14), that that all came from that Brigham Young fella.
I have always thought we should be more like the bonobos.
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
Moar from Andy Cobb, please.
Mark Morfordlike in his life view. And that's a good thing.
"I've never pictured Hell as a place of fire, sulfur and demons with pitchforks, I've always imagined it as a place of excess and broken dreams and hopes."
and cowbell
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
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and the only prescription is more cowbell!
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ErokR, et al.
No ones victim to their DNA focus on your mind for a while instead of the sex madison avenue and hollywood churns out 24/7 and it eventually becomes obvious.
...please... need punctuation... starving... no sense... pointless reading...
we all know about bonobos, we also know we are not bonobos, so what is the point? basing arguments upon behavioral comparisons with other species is a handy reference, interesting from a sociological perspective, but i would much prefer to base policy on what will make our society function smoothly.
once more, human beings do not have to make sense, they do not have to behave, can have whatever opinion they want, and one opinion is not necessarily more valid than another. we place far too much emphasis on argument, and not enough on consensus and understanding.
If so many of 'em didn't believe they are made in god's image.
"I've never pictured Hell as a place of fire, sulfur and demons with pitchforks, I've always imagined it as a place of excess and broken dreams and hopes."
they started talking with clubs and spears instead their penises and vaginas
life would be so much more peaceful if we all spent more time on all fours
Actually not. There is no evidence in the archaeological record for armed conflict prior to about 20,000 years ago. That does not mean that it did not happen, especially given our relatively small sample size for populations older than that, but it does mean that if it did, it was not terribly common. After 20,000 years ago the evidence becomes increasingly common, at least in some areas.
we would have not started regularly using tools, which eventually became weapons ... yes, it took time, but the move to vertical locomotion, freeing our hands, was the catalyst
He claims to not care: quoting Jefferson, if it doesn't break his leg or pick his pocket, he doesn't care. Fellow Mormons are perplexed by Beck's "liberal" views on gays and gay marriage because he should be opposed to it as a reactionary, old time Christian. Why isn't Beck opposed to gay marriage?
Maybe it has to do with the skeleton that Beck has in his own closet.
Woof, woof ... NOT!
"The antidote to bad speech is more speech." ~~J.S. Mill
"a non-stop scat-enthusiast free-free-for-all f-fest that traumatizes children and seniors"
Sounds a lot like a GOP convention. ;)
Sen. Larry Craig in an airport men's room.
The point is to compare TheG@y with simians then?
he's comparing all humans to simians!
our close relatives are indiscriminate and abundant in their sexual encounters, so maybe those among us who are considered "unnatural" because of our promiscuity or sexual orientation aren't really so "unnatural" ... and maybe those of us who aren't regularly getting laid are "unnatural"?
...one of my favorite lectures was “Why do Bonobo's have big balls?” The point was because Bonobos were highly promiscuous, the male that produced the most sperm (the ones with bigger balls) would produce the larger number of offspring. The male offspring would have their father's large ball advantage. The selective advantage would always favor larger balls – so, compared to other primates, Bonobos have enormous balls.
Bonobos are also patri-local the males stay in the tribe but females move to other tribes.
"we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and [to] bid defiance to the laws of our country." …..Thomas Jefferson
Is interesting as hell. I had no idea. But explains some of the crazily loose skin flapping around in the vid.
I'm thinking bunnies could definitely rise to that challenge.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
bunnies could group-f 24/7 and bonobos would still win on style points
that as the symbol of Christ's resurrection, bunnies engage in sex solely for the purpose of the bibilical admonition to be fruitful and multiply.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
Andy, if you can't write "fuck" then just find some other way to say it. The whole "f" thing is too cutesy by half.
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
I dunno, is that preferable?
It has its place, I'm not sure it's 12 times on the front page of C&L. But feel free to fucking disagree.
The chimpanzee and bonobo ancestor and humans split 6.5 million years ago and chimps and bonobos split about a million and half years ago - that tells me that we can't just pick the bonobos as our spirit animal - we have to accept the war-like nature of the chimpanzee, which may well may be the more closely related species in temperament. Punctuated equiblrium of the last million years has produced scores of homo-sapien varieties, we are the last (wo)man standing of that crew and evolving behavior can happen a lot faster than evolving a new hip.
Comparing ourselves to just bonobos strikes me as a corollary to creationist misinformation that we "evolved from chimps" - we didn't.
Humans just seem more like chimps to me, though, just think what things would be like if the teahadists got their way - chimps! (although chimps probably throw less feces).
Bonobos gave me hope for humans when I first heard about them but when I look at society, it sure looks like the chimp barbarians are at the gate.
Also comparing percent of dna shared is an indicator of overall evolutionary relationships but there can be a big difference between genotype and phenotype. Even a 100 percent match in DNA will produce different phenotypes and personalities (twins). Or look at dog breeds- the behavior and temperament can vary widely within the same species.
probably arises from the fact that both got down out of the trees ... bonobos are still semi-arboreal ... tends to make for a more peaceful critter
that being said, this video humorously, not scientifically, challenges the notion that gay relationships are "unnatural" ... in it, our close relatives the bonobos engage in rampant same-sex sexual activity without benefit of watching two boys kiss on "glee" ... yes, animals have culture just like humans do, which influences their "relationship" choices, but still, it's a good example of "naturally" occurring omni-sexuality, and it's not far from our family tree
as it has been observed in hundreds of species - tried to do a quick search to verify but I couldn't filter out the bonobos - maybe that people seem to be much more interested in the bonobos is a good sign .. I wonder if chimpanzees might be a little more leather bar than block party orgy, but in any case -- Vive la différence! :)
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