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The CBC covers this new phenomenon known as "the internet" in 1993. Wow. Just wow.

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Executive Producer of The Professional Left Podcast. On staff at Crooks and Liars since 2007. Master's degree from Harvard. Happy wife of Driftglass. Mother of three geniuses. Obsessive knitter. Blogs at http://bgalrstate.blogspot.com. .
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Abbybwood's picture

The "InterNETS"....right????

P.S. Is there some kind of prize if I'm FOIST!!!!!!?


"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn

Andy K's picture

Next time ya gotta go old school C&L: FRIST!

Don't ever try posting firsties at The AV Club. At least at this site I've never seen anyone wish death by Cancer/AIDS/Fire, or more correctly, Firey CancerAIDS.

gogetem's picture

Simpsons did it!!


If a drone kills a child in Kandahar, do the crying parents make a sound?

Taarak's picture

Sure, this new Internet thingy is cool, but it'll never replace the BBS and their fancy ANSI graphics.

Chopvac's picture

As painful as it was to use a 1200 baud modem in the early 1990s (and I started with 300 baud modems on the Apple II in the 1980s), there was a certain charm to working with text-only systems. I osrt of preferred it when I (or others) could modify my own hardware, and I don't mean adding cards. I mean soldering chips onto the motherboard.

At 1200 baud, if you got perfect transmission, that was just over 7 KB per minute, or about four and a half screens of text on an 80x25 screen of an 80-column Apple II. Today, a typical (low) transfer rate is about 1 Mbps (megabits per second), or about 120 MB per second.

We've come a loooooong way, but the waits aren't getting any shorter. Just like hard drive space, increased capacity inevitably gets filled with increased programs and data to fill it. Microsoft won its war on the internet with its bloatware.

dadams's picture

the gop is still pushing out their tubes
and wondering why they can't connect.......

canadian dman's picture

1.39 mark

talk.abortion right above
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

General Jack D. Ripper's picture

Also at 01:39 mark....."ALT.PAGAN" See Newt Gingrich clip below, where he says we are surrounded by "paganism." I guess we've been surrounded by pagans since the start of the internets!

lsamsa's picture

canadian dman...interesting...some things never go away...like Rushbo.
Interesting show...funny, seeing all those phones & terminals & wires...and hearing that old 'dial up tone'...great.
I must say, that for all the weird & 'artsy fartsy' stuff that the CBC has put on over the years...their journalists, news shows, investigative shows, are some of the most excellent you will find.
In that they have truly retained what true journalism is supposed to be about.

Torontonian's picture

I don't know from what program that extract comes. It could have been The National/The Journal. The reporter was Bill Cameron and we
miss him greatly. He passed away a few years ago well ahead of the
normal life span. Such is the toll cancer takes on society.

Bill Cameron was a reporter/correspondent/interviewer of the highest calibre. I hope readers will look to cbc.ca and look for the Archives to find programming of a different genre than Americans
are accustomed to.

Cats r Flyfishn's picture

Has to be better than what the American journalist give us. They don't report "real" news, only the G-NO-P talking points.

RD's picture

Just so you know, Bush Lite up in Canada would like to sell off the CBC. So the product you have come to like will be permanently altered by corporate/private ownership.

Edwin's picture

That would be a crime. It must be stopped.


"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!

muslimoutrage's picture

I was 8 years old when this video came out. I still remember our old POS "Compudyne" computer we got in 1994. I used to love MS-DOS and all that good stuff; had a bunch of DOS based games as well. Our computer came with Windows 3.1...just a mouse, keyboard, no sound card, no CD-Rom deck, 500 MB of hard drive, maybe 64 MB ram, and 100 mhz processor. In 3 years, I added a modem, sound card, Cd-rom, 64 MB more RAM, upgraded to windows 95, better graphics, scanner, upgraded the monitor. it was so much fun until the next year when I tried to upgrade it to windows 98 and tried to add a new hard drive, that pretty much ended the magical run on that system as it couldn't take it at all. i still have it sitting in my basement, sometimes I turn it on just for kicks or for inspiration. most of what i used to have on that computer is wiped out but the hardware is still all there. ahh, memories.....thanks for posting this bluegal!!!!

I was 12 years old in 1993. Didn't have that much to do with the internet yet. Our Language Arts teacher was signed up for some e-pen pal site that allowed us to write back and forth with others teachers' students.

I got my first IBM computer with Windows 95 in 1996 at 15 years old, and mine was the first one the shop had sold. It would take a while before more people in our working class community got their first home computers.

One of my close friends started college in 1993, and he told me that at the time the college computers had neither internet access or even Windows on them. I told him, "I bet you had to walk 20 miles round trip barefoot in the snow to get there everyday too, huh!" ;)


I've never seen change without a fire

ecotopian's picture

I was 28 when this came out. I was on those sorts of groups in the mid 90's. It was a free for all. There was no moderation at all. You could say anything you wanted. You just had to be prepared for the flame war that might ensue. Most blogs today are tame by comparison.

When this came out, the Internet was seen as something really promising. They had no idea what a commercial wasteland it would turn out to be.

Uncle Joe Mccarthy's picture

i was a part of the origins of the net...before even gore helped to get it spread

i was in jr high, and we had a telephone hookup direct to the main frame at cal state berkely...

it was a pilot project

no computer...just a dummy terminal and one of the first "printers"

the only things we could do was play tick tack toe, and a star trek game fighting romulans....i never beat the computer

however, in 93, i had no interest at all in the net

it was slow, you had to use dos commands...and everyone on it seemed creepy (forget what that canuck said, there were lots of people trading kiddy porn on those boards)

in 95, i left psychology, and got a gig in it....and totally fell in love with the net and computers...and i have been here ever since

and ya, the move from 95 to 98 was terrible...but nowhere as bad as the move to the pos vista (which is going to be phased out, because like milenium, its a fucking beta that never shouldve been forced on the public)

it is truly amazing to see the rapid change in the net and its uses in just a very short 16 years

ron's picture

I just bought a computer that's got Vista. What am I looking at as far as performance and reliabilit?

Uncle Joe Mccarthy's picture

here is a suggestion

the windows 7 beta is available for download, and can be used for a year....i suggest downloading it

it is ez enuf to install for even the most basic user...and takes about 30 minutes to install (after download)

you will notice the diff immediatly...and dont worry about drivers...it will find them all

took microsoft only 20 years to perfect an operating system...not bad

except apple has yet to fuck up their os...which is why im losing many customers to the mac

microsoft is the only company in the history of the world who has been allowed to put out defective product....not once, but many times...and are immune from being sued

vista is criminal...even worse than millenium, which was only on the market for a short period of time

and those fuckers dared to blame the poor reception of vista on techs like me

they honestly thought that we were gonna lie to our customers about the performance of vista

fuck em

but windows 7 (at least for home users) seems to be a godsend

ron's picture

Will take a serious look tomorrow.
Thank you

Uncle Joe Mccarthy's picture
np

also, make sure that you uninstall the ton of shite that the computer company preinstalled...especially whatever they gave you for an anti virus...it will just slow down your computer

use avg, or any of the myriad of free programs that can be found on the net

Andy K's picture

My computer programming class, freshman year of high school, 1979, we had the computer that was hooked up to the mainframe at Michigan State, and we had a TRS 80, on which we saved to cassette tape. Wrote flow charts and programmed tic tac toe and hangman using BASIC.

I think I actually spent more time in the common area playing Ogre(hex map, dice and pencils, no computers) with my buddy Lon while we waited for our classmates to finish their input.

Uncle Joe Mccarthy's picture

went to hs in silicon valley

the companies were so hyped to get people into the internet age, that they donated 10 pc's to our school...but please, dont ask if me if i recall the models

all i remember is that the programs came on one giant floppy (remember those) and the data on the other....you had to write in fortran or basic...it was fucking tedious...and i never thought anything would come of this computer revolution

i was a dumb kid

i dont remember anything from my computer classes (cuz i hated them)

the guys who really fell in love with the art, all made tons of money during the 90s or went on to get their graduate degrees in computer science and went on to teach

Andy K's picture

Dad's Honeywell branch office- HVAC, not weapons shit- had a computer for some reason. I remember going there one time in the mid '70's when the computer guy showed me the tic-tac-toe program. You had to load a small stack of cards to make your mark in a specific spot and the printer- no monitors!- would print out the game move-by-move.

Andy K's picture

When I was 11, I was in an ad for Williams Magnavox, a local dealership. I got $50 and an Odyssey game "system". I was telling my kid about it a couple months ago, and he asked if I played the game all the time, like he's done for years with his Playstations and X-Boxes. When I told him that Pong got boring really quick, he asked what other games you could play on it. When I told him there was Pong and Pong, he didn't believe me until his mom backed me up.

Uncle Joe Mccarthy's picture
lol

thing is...we kids used to go bowling...and instead of bowling, we would drop quarter after quarter into pong

no matter how many times we played it, always thought it was fucking amazing

i still remember the first atari system...it had multiple games...and the worst was ET...

but it didnt matter...all the stuff was new and amazing

kids today are jaded

thismachinekillsfascists's picture

I thought the worst was how atari bastardized pac man on the 2600...

Peter G's picture

trump that by half a decade Andy. The first computer I learned to program was an IBM 1130. Punch cards of course. In 73 there were no games at all but you could still do interesting programs. Get this: total iron core memory was 32267 bits (not bytes). A decade later I was programming computer models of crystal growth on a DEC 10 prime and still using punch cards.


Hasa Diga Eebowai

mr teaspoon's picture

It's funny how we can have fond memories for something as sterile and universal as a computer/software, isn't it?

My first computer was the original iMac when I was 13. I'll always remember how cool I thought it looked and how exciting it was to dial-up.

Yellowbird's picture

I was 41 when this came out and I had already been on the "internets" for 5 years. We used it for engineering in the defense industry for at least a decade before it went commercial.

Another story you might enjoy if you can find it is UNIVAC.

That was the first big vacuum tube computer in Los Angeles and it was voice actuated. A real scream and I used it.

The cycle of desperate small animals has started again at my home. I found out yesterday the identity of the little culprit who has been eating Jeremy's dog food and drinking his water while he's away from it. A hungry little calico cat that I've seen around the neighborhood many times before.

It breaks my heart because I'm at my limit of animals I can really afford right now, and if I only could I would so take her in.

I've got the two cats and the two dogs, and can't really add more.

Jeremy joined the family when I discovered he was the little culprit who was eating Andy's food and sleeping in his doghouse. When I discovered that Jeremy had a disability and some health issues I couldn't in good conscience leave him out on the streets, so he's with us now.

We got Andy when we couldn't take seeing him suffer mistreatment on the streets and at the hands of our neighbors. We asked them to hand the dog over to us if they were no longer interested in him (they cast him out onto the street when they didn't want him anymore).

And Mimis and Joey the two cats were given to me as kittens when my godmother found them all alone in an alley with no sign of a mother or siblings.

So all my pets are rescues.

Life in this town is really hell for animals if they don't have a loving home. On the streets they don't get food, very little water, exposure to the elements, and are the targets of violence by poor excuses for human beings. The animal shelter is not much better because they really don't have their shit together.

Not even having a loving home makes an animal immune from some of these things, about 6 months before I got my current two cats, I'd lost a cat (she too was a rescue) to malicious poisoning...

So, now you see what I mean about wishing there were no animals here...


I've never seen change without a fire

Bobbie's picture

Don't know where you live but, one of the most useful tasks the internet does for me is help find animal rescuce groups. Whatever rescue groups you find probably will be full to over flowing, but they might be able to help you out. If nothing else they should be able to find a low cost spay and nueter clinic. I live in Columbus, Ohio and the County Commissioners provide money to the local Humane Society. It provides for one free nueter or spay per address per year for cats. The program generally runs out of money by fall, but that's a lot of cats being taken care who won't be producing more kitties like your little calico. Good luck.

pissed off patricia's picture

Someone dumped three little kittens in my neighborhood last week and guess which yard they decided to call home. I'm feeding them now and when they are old enough I will have them fixed, get their shots and hopefully find a home for them. I would like to get my hands on the SOB that dumped them without even having their mom with them.


Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.

MaryK's picture

Here's a video that tells the story of Mr. Lucky:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJA5c_YbUQA

Yup, someone left 12-day-old kittens in a box beside the road, out in the high Arizona desert. Coyote bait for sure. --MaryK


"Courtesy is owed. Respect is earned. Love is given." --Unknown author, found in Guide to Texas Etiquette by Kinky Friedman

snoozer's picture

North Korea Sentences U.S. Journalists to 12 Years in Labor Prison

North Korea found two American journalists guilty of illegal
entry and sentenced them to 12 years in a labor prison, its
official KCNA news agency said on Monday.

The journalists, Euna Lee and Laura Ling, who worked for
Current TV, were arrested in March while working on a story
near the border between North Korea and China.

Kyuzo's picture

I think it's hilarious how the guy talks about the people he encounters on the internet being polite and not trolling.

The drooling idiots flooding the Web coincides perfectly with AOL making it so damned easy to get online. I remember the golden age of the WWW (around 1995) when pretty much everyone you met was intelligent. Because you had to be smart to figure out how to get a computer online.

ecotopian's picture

I was there, too. There were many idiots on line at the time. I know, I read their posts and they weren't all using AOL. It didn't take a genius to get on line at all. If you could set up your computer at the time, you could set up a modem. If you could install software, you could install Netscape. It was really that easy.

gogetem's picture

That guy would have been shocked to see a "YouTube Comments" section from 15 years in the future.


If a drone kills a child in Kandahar, do the crying parents make a sound?

JerryO's picture

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Government + the Federal Reserve = organized crime

Loonie's picture

Back then, it was only one tube.

ron's picture

on my bicycle and my first cars before tubeless.

s2dbaker's picture

Now I know what happened to my feathered hair. It was the Cathode Ray Tubes that gave me Luke Skywalker hair. Now I'm bald. I blame the Liquid Crystals.

Tequila's picture

Kimmy convicts our journalists to 12 years in military prison, while Hillary's considering adding NK to the terror sponsor list. The abortion shooter claims there's more where he came from. SC's Supreme Court has to order Sanford to give stimulus money back to the state. One of the Watergate burglars just died, and apparently also screwed up on the Bay of Pigs invasion, too.

The Wanderer's picture

... claims that there's more where he came from.

As if we didn't know a;ready that there are a multitude of brain-limited Propagandists of the Deed just outside the circle of Civilization's lights, waiting for the final goad sent to them by their masters so that they can swoop in and kill again.

thismachinekillsfascists's picture

Oh yeah, but gawd FORBID that you call these people what they really are: rightwing domestic terrorists

North Korea sentence Journalist to 12 years in Prison

SEOUL, South Korea — North Korea said its top court convicted two U.S. journalists and sentenced them to 12 years in labor prison Monday, intensifying the reclusive nation's confrontation with the United States.
The North's Central Court tried American TV reporters Laura Ling and Euna Lee during proceedings running from last Thursday to Monday and found them guilty of a "grave crime" against the nation, and of illegally crossing into North Korea, the country's state-run Korean Central News Agency said.
It said the court "sentenced each of them to 12 years of reform through labor." The KCNA report gave no other details.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/08/laur...

hidflect's picture

It'll never catch on...

Mugsy's picture

In his first book (I forget the title), Bill Gates said The Internet was "a passing fad".


* There are two types of Republicans: millionaires and suckers.
"Mugsy's Rap Sheet": Recording history for those who seek to rewrite it.

thismachinekillsfascists's picture

He also said that 640k would be enough ram for a computer.

My first computer had 640k. Thanks Bill.

Tax the Rich's picture

John McCain is demanding an investigation into finding out what this internet thing is.


Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.

Edwin's picture

Every day, before I log on, I pray to my sky gods, "Oh dear sky gods, please don't fucking let me use the goddamned F-word today." Sometimes it works. Keep the internets clean. ;)


"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!

Cats r Flyfishn's picture

It's amazing how important the Internet has become to everyday life. You are either on it or you are left by the wayside.

Bobbie's picture

Did that guy have a picture of the Twin Towers on his screen?

Repack Rider's picture

I joined Compuserve, with my Apple II computer, at 300 baud. You almost had to know UNIX to use it.

I could type as fast as the word scrolled across the screen. I remember wen I upgraded to 1200 baud and could no longer keep up.

Blazing speed.

ctalk's picture

The internet has been a Godsend for grassroots politics and citizen journalism. Who knew blogs would become universal and so useful to fight bad memes and create good ones? I've been online since the web started, first started using computers in 1979 with the Apple II and learning BASIC as a kid. I played Ultima in the early 90's with many, many floppies and hours behind the keyboard. I taught myself to make web pages and made a few web sites for myself, clients and affiliates. I've really enjoyed the contact with netizens over wide geographical areas of the US and the world over the years. Computers and the internet have been very good for society and to me personally.


Politics is for the present, but an equation is for eternity. Albert Einstein

jurassicpork's picture

I can perfectly see Obama and Congress rear-ending us over health care. But even Ted Kennedy may be setting us up for a disappointment with the upcoming health care legislation.

Alice X - Chomsky Nader's picture

Kennedy's Healthcare Bill Will Increase Expenses, Decrease Employment and Encourage Outsourcing

here


statusquObama, change you can only pretend in

Alice X - Chomsky Nader's picture

This contributor hopes to amass at least a portion of the Pangloss/Orwell sightings now seemingly routine.

Help is appreciated.


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Mugsy's picture

In 1993, I was in my second year of Junior College when I asked my "Computer Operations" Professor, "Are we going to get the Internet here?"

"Internet? What's that?", was his reply. :)


* There are two types of Republicans: millionaires and suckers.
"Mugsy's Rap Sheet": Recording history for those who seek to rewrite it.

I took one of them newfangled computer classes. As someone who never learned to type (I paid people to type term papers, as needed), I thought (erroneously) that word processors might magically cure my lack of typing skills...
I too thought that the whole computer thing was just to become another passing fad. My typing skills remain at late '80s levels...


"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."

---Southwest Airlines

Right Wing Hater's picture

WP: Studies Predict Rapid Rise in Sea Levels Along U.S. East Coast. If you live in a city on the Atlantic, don't buy a house or condo, buy a houseboat.
- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...

Johann Hari: Could we be the generation that runs out of fish? - http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commenta...
The alternative to collective action today is catastrophe tomorrow. As Charles Clover explains: "When the human population comes under pressure on land because of global warming, when we are running out of ways to feed ourselves, we [will] have just squandered one of the greatest resources on the planet – wild fish." The epitaph for the human species would turn out to have been scripted by Douglas Adams: so long, and thanks for all the fish.

In the Near Future, the Global Economy will be Dominated by China & the Biosphere will be Turned Hostile by Global Warming, Unless ...
- http://words-of-power.blogspot.com/2009/06/in...

We Had Our Perestroika. It's High Time for Yours. ...by Mikhail Gorbachev - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...
Toward the end of 1986, it became clear to me and my supporters that nothing less than the replacement of the system's building blocks was needed.
In the West, the breakup of the Soviet Union was viewed as a total victory that proved that the West did not need to change. Western leaders were convinced that they were at the helm of the right system and of a well-functioning, almost perfect economic model. Scholars opined that history had ended. The "Washington Consensus," the dogma of free markets, deregulation and balanced budgets at any cost, was force-fed to the rest of the world.
But then came the economic crisis of 2008 and 2009, and it became clear that the new Western model was an illusion that benefited chiefly the very rich. Statistics show that the poor and the middle class saw little or no benefit from the economic growth of the past decades.

President Barack Obama is announcing Monday that he is ramping up stimulus spending exponentially in the next three months, allowing the administration to “save or create” 600,00 jobs — four times as many as during the first 100 days since he signed the bill.
- http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0609/234...

Ted Kennedy Carries the Dream of Just Healthcare for All Americans Forward. Let the Insurance Industry Profiteers Battle On. In the End, Healthcare is a Right, Not a Profitable Privilege. Didn't Barack Obama Agree to That?
- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...

APNewsBreak: Major problems found in war spending - APNewsBreak: Major problems found in war spending
This is one Christmas gift U.S. taxpayers don't need. Construction of a $30 million dining facility at a U.S. base in Iraq is scheduled to be completed Dec. 25. But the decision to build it was based on bad planning and botched paperwork.
The project is too far along to stop, making the mess hall a future monument to the waste and inefficiency plaguing the war effort, according to an independent panel investigating contracting in Iraq and Afghanistan. In its first report to Congress, the Wartime Contracting Commission presents a bleak assessment of how tens of billions of dollars have been spent since 2001.
The 111-page report, obtained by The Associated Press, documents poor management, weak oversight, and a failure to learn from past mistakes as recurring themes in wartime contracting.

Study reveals 'hidden homeless' in rural America - http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/...

Suspect in Dr. Tiller's Death Warns of More Violence to Come at Abortion Clinics Across the U.S. - http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090607/ap_on_re_...
The man charged with murdering a high-profile abortion doctor claimed from his jail cell Sunday that similar violence was planned around the nation for as long as the procedure remained legal, a threat that comes days after a federal investigation launched into his possible accomplices.
Right wingnut terrorism...

Whacko Creationist Beheaders? "Vandals decapitate dinosaur at Durham's Museum of Life and Science, head is recovered." - http://www.pamshouseblend.com/diary/11277/van...

Gideon Levy: Obama emerged in Cairo as a true friend of Israel [unlike] Bush the Terrible - Haaretz
- http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1090534.html
Indeed, there was promise in Cairo, of the dawn of a new age. A U.S. president talking about negotiations with Iran without preconditions or tacit threats, even willing to accept Iran having civilian nuclear capability; a president who talked about Hamas as a legitimate organization that represents part of Palestinian society, but that needs to relinquish violence; who spoke with empathy about Palestinian suffering; who spoke, believe it or not, about security not only for Israelis but also for Palestinians;
who said that all the settlements are illegal; who called for nuclear disarmament of the entire region. Obama also spoke against denying the Holocaust, about the rights of women and Copts, and on the need for democracy tailored to each society's culture. This is the thinking of a great leader, who walked with wisdom and sensitivity between the Holocaust and the Nakba, between Israelis and Palestinians, between Americans and Arabs, between Christians, Jews and Muslims.
How easy it is to imagine his predecessor, George Bush the Terrible, in the same position: a complete opposite.

Neo-Confederate Winger Shelby tries to blame Obama for bank bailouts that happened ‘last fall.’ - http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/07/shelby-ob...

The Greening of Manhattan's Roofs - http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/07/opinion/07s...

Understanding Green Roofs - http://www.ccsr.columbia.edu/cig/greenroofs/
New York City faces a suite of environmental and human health challenges in the 21st century. The need to understand the nature of these challenges, and to evaluate potential mitigation and adaptation strategies requires innovative scientific research and assessment, coupled with sound land-use planning, technological innovation, and urban policy.

Con-servatives 'support the troops' update: New York Times Editorial: Intolerable Rise in Soldier Suicides - http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/07/opinion/07s...

Obama Plans Big PR Push on Healthcare - http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/07/us/politics...

A Democratic Majority Is Not the Same As a Progressive Majority - http://discuss.epluribusmedia.net/content/dem...
Too many con-servative 'blue dogs', hawks, and 'moderates'....we need bold change to survive the 21st centuries problems created by 20th century policies of lunacy...

Single-Payer and the Democracy Deficit - http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7186

Kennedy Health Bill Mandates Public Plan, Coverage for All - http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=206010...

Fox Nation: The seedy underbelly of Rupert Murdoch's evil empire? - http://mediamatters.org/columns/200906020036?...

Well financed Denier/Extinctionist 'Senator' Inhofe (R-Exxon/Oklahoma branch) Rips Obama As ‘Un-American,’ Suggests He’s On The Side Of Terrorists. Why don't we just quarantine Oklahoma as a deranged colony. They have politicians that are so vile, they make the Neo-Confederates look reasonable.
- http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/05/obama-mus...
Still the dumbest SOB in the Senate....

Speaking of dumb: From Her Window, Sarah Palin Can See North Korea's Missiles. - http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/A...

The Obama administration plans to require banks and corporations that have received two rounds of federal bailouts to submit any major executive pay changes for approval by a new federal official who will monitor pay, according to two government officials.
- http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/08/business/08...

Rolling Stone: The 'Death Tax' Scam. America's wealthiest families are pouring millions into slashing the estate tax - and some Democrats are siding with the super-rich.
- http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/28...
Keeping the 'inherited wealth' scheme in place....money for nothing...'you betcha'....

How the Radical White Male "Sovereign" Radicals Became Anti-Abortionist Killers. It's All About the War Against Women.
- http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2009/06/b...

94-year-old former U.S. Representative calls for end to mountaintop removal - http://www.grist.org/article/94-year-old-form...
As protestors from around the country converged in the Coal River Valley in West Virginia to protest Massey Energy's reckless mountaintop-removal blasting operations, their ranks included 94-year-old former US Representative Ken Hechler. Hechler has a message for President Barack Obama: It's time to have a Harry S. Truman moment and issue an executive order to abolish the destructive practice of mountaintop-removal mining in Appalachia.

‘Sea Change’ documentary highlights threat of ocean acidification - http://www.grist.org/article/2009-06-08-ocean...

Carbon Capture Won't Solve the Tar Sands - Canada's Environment Minister - http://www.desmogblog.com/carbon-capture-wont...
It’s official. Canadian Environment Minster Jim Prentice fessed up to what experts have been saying all along: that carbon capture and storage (CSS) is close to useless for mitigating the massive emissions from the Alberta tar sands.

Rainwater Harvesting Poised To Grow In US West - http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/06/rainw...
I'm telling you now...this will be a boom industry...within next decade...and not just in the West...

Political Irony: http://politicalirony.com/2009/06/08/free-mar...
http://politicalirony.com/2009/06/07/the-wron...
http://politicalirony.com/2009/06/06/condonin...


We don't inherit the Earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children - Native American proverb
If being cold means there's no such thing as global warming, does being full mean there's no such thing as world hunger?

Hornet's picture

Not a lot of cursing my ass.

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